1. Yes. We call them Wig-Wags. 2. It's an American fleet car. Quantity over quality. But, they'll shake and rattle their way to high miles. 3. Used police Crown Vics are often used by taxi companies over here. Paramedics used to get these hand me downs as well. 4. We do like car seats that resemble something you'd find in grand dad's living room. 5. The one police taxi I saw in NYC also had a rotating beacon with magnetic base that the driver stuck on the roof at a scene.
@@mikeivoyloff1656It was quite a few years ago. A lady had been run over in a hot and run. The police taxi was parked at an age to block the scene. I believe he took it from the dashboard .
Low power from a big engine is simple - reliability. It is understressed. easy and cheap to manufacture and maintain. Pop over to the US and you will find huge numbers of big, lazy, underworked V8s with 200k miles on with shoddy maintenance history.
i have the 5.4L 300Hp version sold in Australia and at 155,000 miles, other than the usual consumables it hasn't missed a beat. as you say, understressed, good capacity, lot's of torque = happy little piggy's.
They weren't low power. The 2004 was the last year of upgraded power for the 4.6. It produced 250 hp. To put this in perspective my 1974 Charger Rallye 440. The last year of the 440 7.2 litre magnum engine, produced 275. With the 3.55 optional gearing, while not a muscle car, the 4.6 were no slouch either.
@@stevesmith7530 I agree with you to a point. I believe you have to look at the situation and the year. Back in 2004 the Mustang GT had 260 hp versus the CVPI at 250. The GT had a slightly different exhaust manifold. The Mach 1 was 305 so it was a bear at that time. But at the time, 250 was not low power. Ford was not about to the 305 hp in a cheap police fleet vehicle which was at least $7,000 cheaper than a Mach 1. Those development costs have to come from somewhere and that's why you pay big money for high hp vehicles. They aren't big sellers either. You can't relate todays engines with those 20 years ago. The CVPI's final year of production was 2011 and 250 hp was maintained. Ford was not going to spend money making changes to the engine although the vehicle itself did go through some upgrades over the last 7 years of production. The 4.6 was a great engine and was very durable and reliable unlike some of the shvt Ford has made lately.
Here in the world outside north America, back in the mid 90s, 75hp/litre was good in a quick family car, now 100hp/litre out of diesel cars is unremarkable, without even heading into the realms of "performance cars". So by rest of the world standards, 260 out a 4.6 is tremendously underpowered, especially given the physical size and weight of such a car. 260hp is what your average British traffic cop gets in their BMW diesel station wagon, so the same out of a petrol V8 with half as much cubic capacity again seems weak. The trade off between size, economy, performance, and longevity.
The real 6Y13 was a 2011 Crown Victoria LWB, retired in 2018. It had it's engine and transmission removed for another vehicle, and was junked after being auctioned. The last undercover cab, 6Y12, was retired just a few months ago and purchased by someone who is going to restore it.
Ahhh that explains it.. because the last undercover police taxi crown Vics (6Y12 being the last) were all long wheelbase models: taxi specific, not police spec) so that begs the question what is this then. Perhaps it was an older undercover taxi and the owner just threw on 6Y13
I used to be a NYC yellow cab driver "2L38" many, many years ago. We all knew the 5Yxx, 6Yxx and 2Wxx "taxis" were cops. The police who drove them had valid, legit taxi licenses. There were well more than just 7 of them back then. I don't know how many are in use today though.
I geuinley think it's fascinating to see your opinion on American cop cars. I've watched loads of Cops and other American police shows and always thought their cars seemed really slow and useless in a chase, but to see you physically compare the different types from a British perspective is really interesting
The NYC taxi versions of the Crown Victoria had a standard passenger config on the car’s engine control module. For the police interceptor version, the ECM was programmed different for the air/fuel mixture to give the crown Vic better performance over the tamer passenger version.
There was a specific Taxi model for the CV. Wasn't just an NYC thing. P71 is a specific model that is the Police Interceptor. The p71 had silicone hoses, larger alternator, different shift points, different brakes, different suspension. Just like the Police Interceptor Utility is a police specific version based on the Explorer, but it's not an Explorer, it's a completely different model and sold as such. There is the CV LX which is the passenger version CV P71 Police Interceptor CV Fleet/Taxi CV Fleet Short Wheelbase Only the LX was sold to civilians. Cab companies in NYC had to order brand new taxi CV if they wanted to use Crown Vics as there is a law that states a taxi cab can only be so old. They had to stop using old cop cars a long time ago.
I owned a 2nd hand p71 police interceptor from early 2000s. My buddy had same year normal crown Vic, So it was fun to compare the two. The p71 had much taller gears in the rear end, which yielded worse mpg but significantly better acceleration at any speed. P71 also had stiff suspension which made for a not so comfortable ride. My p71 would shift out of 2nd gear at 80 mph during heavy acceleration. I described it as an f150 with a car body.
Please keep in mind that these cars run during 3 shifts, so without breakdowns, it can be driving and idleing for 24 hrs a day. The Panther platform (Crown Vic and Lincoln) were designed for smooth dependable power. In fact when they moved over to the Dodges (after Ford stopped making them) they still called in the Crown Vics to do PIT maneuvers because they were heavy and stable. Best police car ever.
I remember these, they were not just in Manhattan they had one in Bayside, Queens. We used to make fun of it all the time because there are no yellow cabs in Bayside so it already stood out also they kept the police EZ pass in the wind shield which was really obvious. If that wasn't enough it was parked out front of the station in police only parking.
I remember that car early 2000's... I'm from flushing I seen that cab so many times in flushing. Those cops would be all over Queens. I would see them in corona aswell
It’s simple. These things are nearly indestructible. Most Crown Vic taxis in NYC (they’re now all retired) were retired police cars. These things routinely break 300k miles in incredibly tough conditions. Nothing but stop and go traffic, anything from hot summers to well below freezing winters and roads that are beat to death. The engines are very understressed and also develop a lot of torque, they’re perfect for their use. Also those big sedans with 4.6L V8s will 29 UK MPG on the highway.
The movie running scared from the 80's had the undercover taxi correct. As soon as it was assigned, he crashed in to a few things to get the correct NYC taxi dents and scratches before taking it on the street.
Haven’t finished watching yet but I just want to say I saw one of these in action one night when I was in NYC. I had only ever heard about them at that point, so I was very excited to see it for real
On one of my trips to NYC about 15 years ago, the NYPD transit police were using these for “ taxi enforcement.” They would mix in with the hordes of other real taxis rto make sure they were following all of the traffic laws. They would also randomly pull over real taxicabs to do spot checks, checking to see if their license, registration, insurance and safety equipment were in order. They were especially on the lookout for unlicensed hacks. I observed them pull over numerous real taxis in various touristy areas.
If this was behind you with the lights flashing, i doubt anyone would even notice or pay attention, they would just think its a taxi trying to stand out to get more fares.
The word got out about these pretty quickly and they were easy to spot. NYC taxis had an extended wheelbase with obviously longer rear doors, so a cop car in taxi drag with standard rear doors was a giveaway. The ruse was more successful in markets that didn't require the LWB Crown Vic for taxi use (where used Police Interceptors were often repurposed as taxis). I used to stripe police vehicles and we did up the occasional fake taxi at their request.
The get up and go of the P71 is still amazing. And they are talking about its only needed for short distances, the cars were not just made and only sold to the NYPD. The rest of the world used them too. I spent decades in Crown Vics. They were the best cars, and going 125 MPH in them was rock solid and they stuck to the road. If you had a car with cruise control, you can step up the speed past the governor. Almost a nice touch with the lighting and interior, but not want NYPD used. Deff not what NYPD used. NYPD had dozens of them, and Impalas, and now SUVs. Taxis in NY are only allowed to operate for a certain number of years, and must be new when placed into service. So EVERY CV taxi in New York have been retired. A taxi can only be I think 6 years old, maybe it's 10. But with the last CV being made in 2011, 2020-2021 was the last year they could be used. So NYPD was forced to buy other vehicles that matched the current type of taxis being used. Its not like the old days where cab companies would buy used cop cars and make then in to taxis, laws changed and the cars had to be new.
In the last years of the crown Vic in use with the nypd as undercover cars dressed as taxis, they actually used taxicab spec models, not the police interceptors.
When you did the backseat test you said there should be a divider, this is a special purpose car, it wasn’t made for prisoner transport, solely just to be used for low profile tasks. Especially with no window tint, some taxis don’t have partitions, some do in New York, but the rest of the USA it’s very rare to see a taxi with a partition.
Would love to see you speak either police officers from different countries, to see the differences in approach/attitude to policing, and the different local challenges.
Own an old IRS/Boarder Force. Okay, low horsepower US V8's. The rule is as follows. Higher the horsepower, the shorter the lifespan. American cars also high torque just through the sheer weight thats rotating, this also helps with gearing with quick acceleration on the low end. 0-30 can be pretty quick, 30-60 not so. And thats with my own car. 140bhp but 260pft. Its alao been extremely reliable, even after government service, sitting in a scrapyard for 13 years and been my daily for 14 years, its broke down on me twice and both easy fixes.
The only cab in NYC to give you a free ride, however there is a catch. That catch is you have to commit an arrestable offense, and there is only one destination you can go. That destination is the downtown precinct.
The original "Fake Taxi"! Lol I actually saw one of these in NYC when I was there and it's still one of the coolest (and most clever) undercover police cars I've seen. Unfortunately, this early 2000's Crown Vic looks like it originally wasn't a police car or a taxi because the interior would have been dark grey vinyl in the taxis and Police Interceptors and from what I remember, the one I saw has tinted windows.
It looks to be a real P71 package, its hard to see, but the speedo goes up to 140 mph, that was only on the P71 package cars. All other models went up to 120 mph. Also, the interiors could be ordered in a few different colors for P71's. Mine has blue interior and it even has carpet floors! Thats quite rare for a non SAP P71, but variants over the years do exist. I'm not sure about the Taxi package interior color options.
At timestamp 1:11 , I can see Pennsylvania (“PA”) Inspection (“INSP.”) stickers (from A-Pillar to steering wheel) “Safety INSP. Sticker” & “Emissions INSP. Sticker” with Expiration of March 2021 (“3/21”) meaning it was inspected March 2020 (“3/20”) and registered in county that meet the requirements for Emissions testing. The color of the stickers changes every year. I do not see “EXEMPT” on the [Emissions] sticker meaning the Emissions test was conducted. (If “EXEMPT” it would be driven under a specific number of miles within 12 months.) * *NOTES: Not every U.S. state does vehicle INSP.s the same. See Edit below* * EDIT: All the PA INSP. Stickers mean is at one point that Vic was registered in PA
That would not have had a cage in it. A cage would have been a sore thumb. If it had a cage that was removed you would still see marks in the headliner.
In order for it to be an NYPD version your "DASH" light would be mounted in the passenger side headliner and it would be a red and White Wheelen Talon set to slow alternate flash.... in the rear deck you would have a slim lighter or 2 talons red and white. Also NYPD does not use dash cams. Everything would run to a Federal signal smart siren control panel. Also at the time NYPD did NOT put computers into unmarked cab cars.
No partition, no fare meter on dashboard, no Nyc-TLC. medallion license bolted to hood are dead giveaways that this is a Police car on top of the fact the car has a tow hitch plus police interceptor sticker on trunk lid . Worse yet, a predators' car roaming the streets up to no good. Any savvy and vigilant New Yorker would recognize these details in the blink of an eye. Only thing right in this video car is : paint is yellow- roof #'s match license plate & yellow round emergency light
It's why these engines go 400,000 MI. Big underpowered engines are reliable. There is a method to the madness. My 7.4 l V8 makes 300 horsepower. But 420 ft lbs of tq. And has 260,000 mi on it
@@samholdsworth420 I mean I see the logic but 4 out of 5 cars in the highest milage list are European so they can't be that much better for reliability lol. My last car was an Audi A4 B7 and that had 250k on it and was still going strong and that was a 2.0L with a stage 1 with 261bhp lol I don't think US cars last enough... Longer (if that sense) to warrant such a massive engine size. Like 260k on a 7.4L is baby steps really lol
Thanks guys for yet another great video. It would have been great If Baby Ben had pulled you over :) Not being aware that it was you driving until he approached the car. You could have given us a REAL review on back seat prisoner :) Your driving skills are already declining. Crossing hands (real driver now :) ) JUST KEEP the videoes entertaining they are great fun to watch.
That acceleration bit, I’m fairly certain that the 3.5 ton Chevy Suburban I daily in Cornwall can get up to speed a little quicker 🤔 That is a cool car though, to blend in rather than just being unmarked.
Either something was very wrong with that car or he wasn't giving it full throttle...these aren't the fastest cars by any means but they're quicker than this guy is portraying
So I'm pretty sure almost 99% sure this is conshohocken's old FD car from Washies. My buddy bought it from them when they retired it and we sent it over there when we sold it. The inspection stickers the top light console and car itself are identical minus it having taxi lettering instead of the old fire department laddering. The color is identical too
@@QuinnDickinson2610 I'm pretty sure the real NYPD ones also didn't have the interceptor badge on the trunk lid. But I guess if there are any pictures with the real UK plates you can get a vin. Still a nice car to re-create.
@@MYVP. Yeah definitely a good accurate recreation to an extent. Almost all of the undercover ones were real taxi packages with a long wheelbase. And we did confirm this was the one from Washington fire company in conshohocken PA we bought in 2021 and the current owner imported it from us
I first saw these when me and my family visited New York City for the first time in 2016 (my father visited america all the time but for diplomatic reasons because he was the chairman of petroleum of Pakistan at that time) and I always thought these were cool. I accidentally flagged one down thinking it was a taxi but I learned about these later on.
I think that was the old hwy 5 sector car .. it got great pick up but it the only negative about it people would try to jump in when your on your meal 😉
Reliability is a very big thing in fleet vehicles, the chargers aren't even close to as reliable as these cars, also the panther platform is body on frame which means even in very serious collision the car can still be driven and or restored to working order again something the unibody chargers can do unless countless dollars are spent. At the end of the day the crown vic was just cheaper and more reliable to use as police cars, cost is a big thing
seen a few of these on video from manhatten, quite sure, I'm not pulling over for a taxi even if it lit up the parade, I'd be on the phone with 911 about a police impersonator/taxi trying to do traffic stops.
There must be something wrong with this Crown Vic as slow AF! These are quick cars check out 'crown vic police cars responding; you tube, Some P71 interceptors had a high performance 400bhp package, But not this in the video!
Crown Vic police cars originally came with a performance chip fitted at the factory by Ford. They had a lot more power in police service, they also had the option of "shutting down" 4 cylinders, so the engine was only running on 4, saving fuel when idling for long periods. The performance chips are swapped out for standard chips and destroyed when the cars leave police service.
nope no chips and no shutting down cylinders on a cvpi just a better intake and exhaust and a higher speed limiter at 130mph thanks to a lighter driveshaft and different torque converter in the transmission and a 3.73 rear end ratio otherwise it was the same modular 4.6L 2v V8 from the civilian Crown vic, the F series trucks, the E series vans, the Explorer and, the Expedition
Not sure why the back seats needed the criminal test. I doubt very much that a US cop would have a shitbag sitting behind him, without a big perspex screen between them.
depends on if it was a patrol vehicle or not and also department policy as some departments used to have dedicated cars with cages that did both transport and patrol and some that were specifically just for patrol and only used to transport a suspect if there was no other unit with a cage available and also cages are only a fairly recent thing
They bought them because they are TOUGH!! American cops are pretty ham fisted drivers. They would run them to 100-150,000 miles and they got the crap beat out of them from day one. Then they would auction them off and the cab company would buy them. I worked on cabs for awhile and they would easily go 3-400,000 miles. I saw a few that had 500,000 on the original motor!! They would use a little bit of oil but they would keep on going. Crown Vics were around 85% of the police cars on the road from the late 90’s-2011 when they quit making them. You still see a few once in awhile. The Chargers are crap compared to the Fords. Transmissions blow out all the time and they are lucky to get 8000 miles on the brakes. They are heavy and a little slow of the line but you can get 130 mph on a long stretch. When you kick it down,manually put it in 1 and floor it and it will downshift better.
This one doesn't seem to be running right in this video, I have an 08 Grand Marquis and had an 00 and both of them seem way faster than this one in this video. These really were solid cars, too bad they stopped making them.
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1. Yes. We call them Wig-Wags.
2. It's an American fleet car. Quantity over quality. But, they'll shake and rattle their way to high miles.
3. Used police Crown Vics are often used by taxi companies over here. Paramedics used to get these hand me downs as well.
4. We do like car seats that resemble something you'd find in grand dad's living room.
5. The one police taxi I saw in NYC also had a rotating beacon with magnetic base that the driver stuck on the roof at a scene.
Somebody still uses rotating beacon on the roof? Wasn't they always were placed on a dash in the US?
@@mikeivoyloff1656It was quite a few years ago. A lady had been run over in a hot and run. The police taxi was parked at an age to block the scene. I believe he took it from the dashboard .
Not the Fake Taxi I was expecting to see to be fair...
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Low power from a big engine is simple - reliability. It is understressed. easy and cheap to manufacture and maintain. Pop over to the US and you will find huge numbers of big, lazy, underworked V8s with 200k miles on with shoddy maintenance history.
i have the 5.4L 300Hp version sold in Australia and at 155,000 miles, other than the usual consumables it hasn't missed a beat. as you say, understressed, good capacity, lot's of torque = happy little piggy's.
They weren't low power. The 2004 was the last year of upgraded power for the 4.6. It produced 250 hp. To put this in perspective my 1974 Charger Rallye 440. The last year of the 440 7.2 litre magnum engine, produced 275. With the 3.55 optional gearing, while not a muscle car, the 4.6 were no slouch either.
@@burningblue1254to put in perspective, 250hp out of a 2l 4pot is far from unusual. Been that way for decades
@@stevesmith7530 I agree with you to a point. I believe you have to look at the situation and the year. Back in 2004 the Mustang GT had 260 hp versus the CVPI at 250. The GT had a slightly different exhaust manifold. The Mach 1 was 305 so it was a bear at that time. But at the time, 250 was not low power. Ford was not about to the 305 hp in a cheap police fleet vehicle which was at least $7,000 cheaper than a Mach 1. Those development costs have to come from somewhere and that's why you pay big money for high hp vehicles. They aren't big sellers either.
You can't relate todays engines with those 20 years ago. The CVPI's final year of production was 2011 and 250 hp was maintained. Ford was not going to spend money making changes to the engine although the vehicle itself did go through some upgrades over the last 7 years of production.
The 4.6 was a great engine and was very durable and reliable unlike some of the shvt Ford has made lately.
Here in the world outside north America, back in the mid 90s, 75hp/litre was good in a quick family car, now 100hp/litre out of diesel cars is unremarkable, without even heading into the realms of "performance cars". So by rest of the world standards, 260 out a 4.6 is tremendously underpowered, especially given the physical size and weight of such a car.
260hp is what your average British traffic cop gets in their BMW diesel station wagon, so the same out of a petrol V8 with half as much cubic capacity again seems weak.
The trade off between size, economy, performance, and longevity.
The real 6Y13 was a 2011 Crown Victoria LWB, retired in 2018. It had it's engine and transmission removed for another vehicle, and was junked after being auctioned. The last undercover cab, 6Y12, was retired just a few months ago and purchased by someone who is going to restore it.
Ahhh that explains it.. because the last undercover police taxi crown Vics (6Y12 being the last) were all long wheelbase models: taxi specific, not police spec) so that begs the question what is this then. Perhaps it was an older undercover taxi and the owner just threw on 6Y13
I used to be a NYC yellow cab driver "2L38" many, many years ago. We all knew the 5Yxx, 6Yxx and 2Wxx "taxis" were cops. The police who drove them had valid, legit taxi licenses. There were well more than just 7 of them back then. I don't know how many are in use today though.
I remember seeing one these flying through time square with lights and sirens circa 2008! Crazy to see one on TH-cam all these years later.
Car- RED ELS Flashes
Bens- Y I got my blues on
now that one way to say ur a brit cop without saying ur a brit cop
Blues and 2s? I’m American but I know Atleast that
I geuinley think it's fascinating to see your opinion on American cop cars. I've watched loads of Cops and other American police shows and always thought their cars seemed really slow and useless in a chase, but to see you physically compare the different types from a British perspective is really interesting
The NYC taxi versions of the Crown Victoria had a standard passenger config on the car’s engine control module. For the police interceptor version, the ECM was programmed different for the air/fuel mixture to give the crown Vic better performance over the tamer passenger version.
There was a specific Taxi model for the CV. Wasn't just an NYC thing. P71 is a specific model that is the Police Interceptor. The p71 had silicone hoses, larger alternator, different shift points, different brakes, different suspension. Just like the Police Interceptor Utility is a police specific version based on the Explorer, but it's not an Explorer, it's a completely different model and sold as such.
There is the CV LX which is the passenger version
CV P71 Police Interceptor
CV Fleet/Taxi
CV Fleet Short Wheelbase
Only the LX was sold to civilians.
Cab companies in NYC had to order brand new taxi CV if they wanted to use Crown Vics as there is a law that states a taxi cab can only be so old. They had to stop using old cop cars a long time ago.
New York City Crown Victoria Taxis were all LONG wheelbase with one single exhaust tip.
Wig Wags refers to ALTERNATING flashing headlights.
You couldn’t be more wrong
I got arrested in one of those in 2009! It was very weird being driven to lockup in a taxi with a cage in it.
I owned a 2nd hand p71 police interceptor from early 2000s.
My buddy had same year normal crown Vic,
So it was fun to compare the two.
The p71 had much taller gears in the rear end, which yielded worse mpg but significantly better acceleration at any speed. P71 also had stiff suspension which made for a not so comfortable ride.
My p71 would shift out of 2nd gear at 80 mph during heavy acceleration.
I described it as an f150 with a car body.
Damn, theses comments answered all my questions about 6Y13! I've seen a few videos of it and thought there's no way he got his hands on the original!
Do u wanna see the original 6Y12 ?😏
Please keep in mind that these cars run during 3 shifts, so without breakdowns, it can be driving and idleing for 24 hrs a day. The Panther platform (Crown Vic and Lincoln) were designed for smooth dependable power. In fact when they moved over to the Dodges (after Ford stopped making them) they still called in the Crown Vics to do PIT maneuvers because they were heavy and stable. Best police car ever.
Totally agree. I think Ben needs to watch 'crown vic cop cars responding in action' on YT to see how badass they are!
Nothing about this car was NYPD
I remember these, they were not just in Manhattan they had one in Bayside, Queens. We used to make fun of it all the time because there are no yellow cabs in Bayside so it already stood out also they kept the police EZ pass in the wind shield which was really obvious. If that wasn't enough it was parked out front of the station in police only parking.
Quite funny! The orange EZ pass is a dead giveaway. Fortunately most criminals aren’t that smart; at least the ones that get caught and convicted 🤣
I remember that car early 2000's... I'm from flushing I seen that cab so many times in flushing. Those cops would be all over Queens. I would see them in corona aswell
Incredible replica of the original NYC NYPD Taxi 6Y13 which was involved in a bad accident and junked.
It’s simple. These things are nearly indestructible. Most Crown Vic taxis in NYC (they’re now all retired) were retired police cars. These things routinely break 300k miles in incredibly tough conditions. Nothing but stop and go traffic, anything from hot summers to well below freezing winters and roads that are beat to death. The engines are very understressed and also develop a lot of torque, they’re perfect for their use. Also those big sedans with 4.6L V8s will 29 UK MPG on the highway.
They all were NEVER retired police cars.
They were Real Taxi cabs with taxi packages!
The movie running scared from the 80's had the undercover taxi correct. As soon as it was assigned, he crashed in to a few things to get the correct NYC taxi dents and scratches before taking it on the street.
Haven’t finished watching yet but I just want to say I saw one of these in action one night when I was in NYC. I had only ever heard about them at that point, so I was very excited to see it for real
On one of my trips to NYC about 15 years ago, the NYPD transit police were using these for “ taxi enforcement.” They would mix in with the hordes of other real taxis rto make sure they were following all of the traffic laws. They would also randomly pull over real taxicabs to do spot checks, checking to see if their license, registration, insurance and safety equipment were in order. They were especially on the lookout for unlicensed hacks. I observed them pull over numerous real taxis in various touristy areas.
If this was behind you with the lights flashing, i doubt anyone would even notice or pay attention, they would just think its a taxi trying to stand out to get more fares.
The word got out about these pretty quickly and they were easy to spot. NYC taxis had an extended wheelbase with obviously longer rear doors, so a cop car in taxi drag with standard rear doors was a giveaway.
The ruse was more successful in markets that didn't require the LWB Crown Vic for taxi use (where used Police Interceptors were often repurposed as taxis). I used to stripe police vehicles and we did up the occasional fake taxi at their request.
Those are very easy to spot
The get up and go of the P71 is still amazing. And they are talking about its only needed for short distances, the cars were not just made and only sold to the NYPD. The rest of the world used them too. I spent decades in Crown Vics. They were the best cars, and going 125 MPH in them was rock solid and they stuck to the road. If you had a car with cruise control, you can step up the speed past the governor.
Almost a nice touch with the lighting and interior, but not want NYPD used. Deff not what NYPD used.
NYPD had dozens of them, and Impalas, and now SUVs. Taxis in NY are only allowed to operate for a certain number of years, and must be new when placed into service. So EVERY CV taxi in New York have been retired. A taxi can only be I think 6 years old, maybe it's 10. But with the last CV being made in 2011, 2020-2021 was the last year they could be used. So NYPD was forced to buy other vehicles that matched the current type of taxis being used.
Its not like the old days where cab companies would buy used cop cars and make then in to taxis, laws changed and the cars had to be new.
In the last years of the crown Vic in use with the nypd as undercover cars dressed as taxis, they actually used taxicab spec models, not the police interceptors.
When you did the backseat test you said there should be a divider, this is a special purpose car, it wasn’t made for prisoner transport, solely just to be used for low profile tasks. Especially with no window tint, some taxis don’t have partitions, some do in New York, but the rest of the USA it’s very rare to see a taxi with a partition.
Would love to see you speak either police officers from different countries, to see the differences in approach/attitude to policing, and the different local challenges.
Im more interested in the typhoon in the background
Not a real NYPD taxi...the light setup is wrong! 🤣🤣
Nice try though.
Own an old IRS/Boarder Force.
Okay, low horsepower US V8's. The rule is as follows. Higher the horsepower, the shorter the lifespan.
American cars also high torque just through the sheer weight thats rotating, this also helps with gearing with quick acceleration on the low end. 0-30 can be pretty quick, 30-60 not so. And thats with my own car. 140bhp but 260pft. Its alao been extremely reliable, even after government service, sitting in a scrapyard for 13 years and been my daily for 14 years, its broke down on me twice and both easy fixes.
The only cab in NYC to give you a free ride, however there is a catch. That catch is you have to commit an arrestable offense, and there is only one destination you can go. That destination is the downtown precinct.
The original "Fake Taxi"! Lol
I actually saw one of these in NYC when I was there and it's still one of the coolest (and most clever) undercover police cars I've seen. Unfortunately, this early 2000's Crown Vic looks like it originally wasn't a police car or a taxi because the interior would have been dark grey vinyl in the taxis and Police Interceptors and from what I remember, the one I saw has tinted windows.
It looks to be a real P71 package, its hard to see, but the speedo goes up to 140 mph, that was only on the P71 package cars. All other models went up to 120 mph. Also, the interiors could be ordered in a few different colors for P71's. Mine has blue interior and it even has carpet floors! Thats quite rare for a non SAP P71, but variants over the years do exist. I'm not sure about the Taxi package interior color options.
Widows are as fast as the car 😂
Put your foot into it, and it will move right along. Reliable, easy to work on, and comfortable. Top speed around 140 mph.
At timestamp 1:11 , I can see Pennsylvania (“PA”) Inspection (“INSP.”) stickers (from A-Pillar to steering wheel) “Safety INSP. Sticker” & “Emissions INSP. Sticker” with Expiration of March 2021 (“3/21”) meaning it was inspected March 2020 (“3/20”) and registered in county that meet the requirements for Emissions testing. The color of the stickers changes every year. I do not see “EXEMPT” on the [Emissions] sticker meaning the Emissions test was conducted. (If “EXEMPT” it would be driven under a specific number of miles within 12 months.)
* *NOTES: Not every U.S. state does vehicle INSP.s the same. See Edit below* *
EDIT: All the PA INSP. Stickers mean is at one point that Vic was registered in PA
If you want a used Police CV look for the Detective version as they typically have less miles as well as less idling hours.
They literally mark it almost all of the used CVPI vehicles as "detective" cars... It's all bullshit and everyone knows it..
I love your videos Ben!
That would not have had a cage in it. A cage would have been a sore thumb. If it had a cage that was removed you would still see marks in the headliner.
In order for it to be an NYPD version your "DASH" light would be mounted in the passenger side headliner and it would be a red and White Wheelen Talon set to slow alternate flash.... in the rear deck you would have a slim lighter or 2 talons red and white. Also NYPD does not use dash cams. Everything would run to a Federal signal smart siren control panel. Also at the time NYPD did NOT put computers into unmarked cab cars.
I love crown vic's 👌
Great video Bradford's Finest!!!...👏🏻👏🏻👮♂️🚔😍😍
No partition, no fare meter on dashboard, no Nyc-TLC. medallion license bolted to hood are dead giveaways that this is a Police car on top of the fact the car has a tow hitch plus police interceptor sticker on trunk lid . Worse yet, a predators' car roaming the streets up to no good. Any savvy and vigilant New Yorker would recognize these details in the blink of an eye. Only thing right in this video car is : paint is yellow- roof #'s match license plate & yellow round emergency light
I can tell the NYPD still has hand full them as well a green taxi mv1 as well..none of unmarked RMS has a cage other then some vans
How they get so little power out of such a big engine is one thing America does really well!
It's why these engines go 400,000 MI.
Big underpowered engines are reliable.
There is a method to the madness.
My 7.4 l V8 makes 300 horsepower. But 420 ft lbs of tq. And has 260,000 mi on it
@@samholdsworth420 I mean I see the logic but 4 out of 5 cars in the highest milage list are European so they can't be that much better for reliability lol. My last car was an Audi A4 B7 and that had 250k on it and was still going strong and that was a 2.0L with a stage 1 with 261bhp lol I don't think US cars last enough... Longer (if that sense) to warrant such a massive engine size. Like 260k on a 7.4L is baby steps really lol
yeah but they have beast like low down torque!
They stopped using the Medalian number on the license plate of the cabs now. They now have a Y####C plate.
How is it all the equipment is still installed ?
Thanks guys for yet another great video.
It would have been great If Baby Ben had pulled you over :)
Not being aware that it was you driving until he approached the car.
You could have given us a REAL review on back seat prisoner :)
Your driving skills are already declining. Crossing hands (real driver now :) )
JUST KEEP the videoes entertaining they are great fun to watch.
Jack Reacher was driving that last week. 🤣
ben they go fast if you 'proper' plant the kickdown
Exactly, He's driving it like he has a box of eggs under his foot!
we need need unmark taxi in central
Old school strobe lights drilled into the light's housings
based crown vic
That acceleration bit, I’m fairly certain that the 3.5 ton Chevy Suburban I daily in Cornwall can get up to speed a little quicker 🤔 That is a cool car though, to blend in rather than just being unmarked.
Either something was very wrong with that car or he wasn't giving it full throttle...these aren't the fastest cars by any means but they're quicker than this guy is portraying
p71 my fav cop car
Interesting that the car has Pennsylvania state inspection stickers on it.
So I'm pretty sure almost 99% sure this is conshohocken's old FD car from Washies. My buddy bought it from them when they retired it and we sent it over there when we sold it.
The inspection stickers the top light console and car itself are identical minus it having taxi lettering instead of the old fire department laddering.
The color is identical too
The garage door opener is still on the visor we left in it!
@@QuinnDickinson2610 I'm pretty sure the real NYPD ones also didn't have the interceptor badge on the trunk lid. But I guess if there are any pictures with the real UK plates you can get a vin. Still a nice car to re-create.
@@MYVP. Yeah definitely a good accurate recreation to an extent. Almost all of the undercover ones were real taxi packages with a long wheelbase. And we did confirm this was the one from Washington fire company in conshohocken PA we bought in 2021 and the current owner imported it from us
I first saw these when me and my family visited New York City for the first time in 2016 (my father visited america all the time but for diplomatic reasons because he was the chairman of petroleum of Pakistan at that time) and I always thought these were cool. I accidentally flagged one down thinking it was a taxi but I learned about these later on.
That one great car yet subtle
Yeah that’ll look completely anonymous on British roads 👍
Impersonating a Taxi Driver should be a felony.
These love cruising at high highway speeds.
Great filming with you as always mate 🙌🏻
police taxi thats mental
I think that was the old hwy 5 sector car .. it got great pick up but it the only negative about it people would try to jump in when your on your meal 😉
I have seen unmarked yellow police taxicab in queens and Manhattan 😎👌👃
The question is, what’s a 10/10 for criminiminal comfort?
So it's a Fake Taxi, if you will? 😉😉
Reliability is a very big thing in fleet vehicles, the chargers aren't even close to as reliable as these cars, also the panther platform is body on frame which means even in very serious collision the car can still be driven and or restored to working order again something the unibody chargers can do unless countless dollars are spent. At the end of the day the crown vic was just cheaper and more reliable to use as police cars, cost is a big thing
Imagine trying to get a ride from this cab or getting in the backseat without realizing 😂
seen a few of these on video from manhatten, quite sure, I'm not pulling over for a taxi even if it lit up the parade, I'd be on the phone with 911 about a police impersonator/taxi trying to do traffic stops.
lol then you would be in more trouble.
NYPD drives anything !
Show us the Typhoon!
Close...the lights are all wrong though.
I wonder how many criminals jumped into these cabs to escape the police and wonder why they were driven to jail
Entrapment
Ben what's wrong with a Vauxhall astra I drive one best car I've had
It’s coming
It’s a shame all the emergency lighting in it isn’t original. It doesn’t look authentic at all.
That window is slower than Trump and Mike Tyson at a spelling bee.
There must be something wrong with this Crown Vic as slow AF! These are quick cars check out 'crown vic police cars responding; you tube, Some P71 interceptors had a high performance 400bhp package, But not this in the video!
0:43 bruh
It's supposed to be an undercover unit.
Yeah, i wouldn't pull over for that.
all powers in't engine ben lad not windows!
Looks like the window motor is as gutless as the engine.
Lmao , this is my old car !
His other car is a BMW. Nuff said..................
Crown Vic police cars originally came with a performance chip fitted at the factory by Ford. They had a lot more power in police service, they also had the option of "shutting down" 4 cylinders, so the engine was only running on 4, saving fuel when idling for long periods. The performance chips are swapped out for standard chips and destroyed when the cars leave police service.
nope no chips and no shutting down cylinders on a cvpi just a better intake and exhaust and a higher speed limiter at 130mph thanks to a lighter driveshaft and different torque converter in the transmission and a 3.73 rear end ratio otherwise it was the same modular 4.6L 2v V8 from the civilian Crown vic, the F series trucks, the E series vans, the Explorer and, the Expedition
Stop , just stop .😂
I don't know where you get your information, but I recommend changing the source immediately. Everything you stated here is flat out wrong.
lol, funny
Not sure why the back seats needed the criminal test. I doubt very much that a US cop would have a shitbag sitting behind him, without a big perspex screen between them.
depends on if it was a patrol vehicle or not and also department policy as some departments used to have dedicated cars with cages that did both transport and patrol and some that were specifically just for patrol and only used to transport a suspect if there was no other unit with a cage available and also cages are only a fairly recent thing
Wacky aftermarket exhaust tips 😂
So your mums best friend, is she a bit of a looker as in fit👍😂
Wig wags 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't really understand the point of this video but man y'all got some thick British accents!!
A police car
There were lots of ex Police cars used as Taxi's
Sexy crown Vic
Nah this is all wrong. The equipment is not right at all.
Illegal
Terrible heads, terrible manifolds, terrible ignition curve, terrible fuel curve, terrible automatic gearbox, terrible combustion chamber, they couldn’t have built a worse engine
They bought them because they are TOUGH!! American cops are pretty ham fisted drivers. They would run them to 100-150,000 miles and they got the crap beat out of them from day one. Then they would auction them off and the cab company would buy them. I worked on cabs for awhile and they would easily go 3-400,000 miles. I saw a few that had 500,000 on the original motor!! They would use a little bit of oil but they would keep on going. Crown Vics were around 85% of the police cars on the road from the late 90’s-2011 when they quit making them. You still see a few once in awhile. The Chargers are crap compared to the Fords. Transmissions blow out all the time and they are lucky to get 8000 miles on the brakes. They are heavy and a little slow of the line but you can get 130 mph on a long stretch. When you kick it down,manually put it in 1 and floor it and it will downshift better.
This one doesn't seem to be running right in this video, I have an 08 Grand Marquis and had an 00 and both of them seem way faster than this one in this video. These really were solid cars, too bad they stopped making them.
KY69 is still prowling around the streets of San Francisco 😂❤😂
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