Linear vs Exponential FM Synthesis

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  • @Kopekemaster
    @Kopekemaster ปีที่แล้ว +11

    THANK YOU. I'm currently writing a manual for a DAW and was baffled by the FM in a synth in it because I've pretty much only had experience with linear FM and had absolutely no idea what it was doing. It is INSANE that I've never heard of this distinction in FM types before. There seems to be shockingly little discussion about it online.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are most welcome. I'm glad you found my video useful.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’ve often wondered why the FM mode of my analogue synth doesn’t sound the same as even a 2-op patch, you’ve made it super clear!
    Also wow, people weren’t kidding when they said simply changing which operators are audible takes a few minutes in a traditional DX synth - in my Opsix I would’ve slid the faders for those operators down in two seconds! Of course I’d read it was an easier and faster user interface but I hadn’t looked into just how much that is true.
    Thanks!

  • @beatsbykabuki
    @beatsbykabuki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Best explanation of this subject on the net. Big up Keith!

  • @synthsamuraiproductions
    @synthsamuraiproductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just found u channel. Great stuff brother.

  • @chris.dillon
    @chris.dillon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    FM is so weird. Musically, technically, everything-ly. This was great. I hope you can do a video with a Digitone one day.

  • @HelamanGile
    @HelamanGile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have to agree with the Lumberjack man

  • @marcelmaes5275
    @marcelmaes5275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew there was a difference between linear and exponential FM but, honestly, only because everyone talked about it.
    And of course I could hear the difference between "analog FM" and "digital FM". But never really understood the concept.
    Now I do, thank you for making this vid and compliments for your great explanation!

  • @AleksSHAGI
    @AleksSHAGI ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Это лучшее разъяснение из всех, какие я когда-либо встречал! Спасибо, Keith! 👍👍👍

  • @Digitt6
    @Digitt6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation on exponential fm on TH-cam. Tried many vids and struggled. Thanks so much!

  • @BramBramsBerg
    @BramBramsBerg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This synthesis method was also used in some arcade, console and PC videogames in form of the YM2151, YM2612 or YM3812 yamaha sound chips used during 80s and 90s. They bring me such good memories of my childhood...

    • @ecernosoft3096
      @ecernosoft3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Explained sega genesis and CX16 music to me quite well! (Both had a PSG inside them and a PCM channel too)

    • @JiMMy-xd8nu
      @JiMMy-xd8nu ปีที่แล้ว

      Get famitracker and make your own chiptune tracks!

  • @FernandoLobo
    @FernandoLobo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i love this guy, he looks like he stole all the infinity stones. Thankfully some people are geeks on this subject and they give us "big guns" like he say. thanks for the video, very interesting.

  • @wariusgaius
    @wariusgaius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best demonstration ever. I learned something. I love it.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you got something out of it! Thanks.

  • @aanon2550
    @aanon2550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Still not sure whether I want to tackle FM but you've definitely made it more approachable.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad I could add some clarity.

  • @grindFish
    @grindFish 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for that explanation! Realised i've been going about it all wrong trying to build fm in puredata and applied this theory and its sounds worlds beyond now! BRILLIANT!

  • @ringtangting
    @ringtangting 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a fantastic video, thank you! I followed along on the DX100. Interesting how the patch sounds different.

  • @chasphotography
    @chasphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For someone studying eurorack modular synthesis this is a very nice inspiring video. Be it someone just starting or as a reminder review of a seasoned person. Thank you.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Chas. I'm glad you found this video inspiring.

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so important to understand and demystify, you are a great communicator.

  • @dankokozar
    @dankokozar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video on FM synthesis ever. Thank you!

  • @heliophile7041
    @heliophile7041 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That was very well explained, thank you! Could you shed some light on through-zero FM? What it is, how to achieve it and how it sounds different from regular linear FM?

    • @JiMMy-xd8nu
      @JiMMy-xd8nu ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically linear but you can crank the fm depth all the way without it sounding as gritty as normal linear fm. As the name suggests it allows to go beyond 0 (negative frequencies).

  • @emilyschmanks
    @emilyschmanks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at last i understand FM! ive been patching my moog dfam's pitch envelope into my mother-32's linear fm input to create a pseudo sidechain effect - whenever a kick drum hits, the frequency of the mother 32 (for example in a bassline) bends upwards a little depending on how much of the envelope i let through. it gets even better when putting the envelope through an inverter so that the linear fm causes the frequency to bend downwards, out of audible range. thank you for this great video. i look forward to more of your videos.

  • @LtPicard
    @LtPicard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video Keith! Keep up the good work!

  • @dessiplaer
    @dessiplaer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this video. It was a great explanation of the difference between exponential and linear FM.

  • @derekholland3328
    @derekholland3328 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks for this knowledge..great vid..hope for more.

  • @pbartmess
    @pbartmess 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the pace of your videos. Also, this one is very informative - thanks for posting it!

  • @LightFootBeats
    @LightFootBeats 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video. Such a simple and direct explanation. Thank you!

  • @peterkenney9158
    @peterkenney9158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Keith, that was really informative and answered the questions I had regarding the difference between the two types of FM.

  • @SmoothSailingMusic
    @SmoothSailingMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keith! Excellent vid thank you! I'm a DSI Pro 2 owner and just found out about the Linear FM update for the Pro 2 firmware and I needed to know what the hell that even meant!

  • @159awi
    @159awi ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your FM videos.

  • @Drumgodskater
    @Drumgodskater 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing, very clear & no bs explanation... thanks!

  • @pmflanigen
    @pmflanigen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No nonsense. Seriously wholesome.

  • @magicizaproblem
    @magicizaproblem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very helpful for making identifying FM types!

  • @peterwilson69
    @peterwilson69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear explanations - thank you. Very well designed video.

  • @travisguide4516
    @travisguide4516 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent concepts thanks for this

  • @KristerNielsen
    @KristerNielsen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This actually made things clearer. Thanks.

  • @theunconciousmind7314
    @theunconciousmind7314 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that clears up

  • @Superman-x6c
    @Superman-x6c 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    simply Wonderful

  • @graxjpg
    @graxjpg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your level of knowledge is a very enviable thing. I can’t wait to watch more!!

  • @makrjoemrak6043
    @makrjoemrak6043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    easy to follow, very informative

  • @jinx1401
    @jinx1401 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Thanks for this easy to follow and understand video.

  • @LittleAmbientMachine
    @LittleAmbientMachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey thanks man, this is very clear ...

  • @beatrute2677
    @beatrute2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Keith,

  • @hubaswift7640
    @hubaswift7640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! you did a great job clarifying the differences between lin and exp FM. I haven't ever bothered to do too much in the way of FM, but I tried some on my modular. Unfortunately the analog oscillators weren't perfect enough to get sounds similar to what you got on the DX11. Got me tempted to pick up a similar keyboard just to explore more along the lines of FM. Unfortunately most FM synths seem to have poor interfaces.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you should check out yamaha's DX-Reface, it's got a good user interface with 4 operators

    • @mattd2129
      @mattd2129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cylonix Shapeshifter from intelijel is a beast of an FM complex osc as is Endorphines Furthrrrr generator.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว

      Opsix is the way to go if you want the structure of FM reflected in the user interface with almost one knob per function.
      The refaceDX someone else mentioned was certainly very good when it was new but compared to the Opsix there’s a lot more menu diving. Plus it’s just touch pads instead of knobs and faders.

  • @TroyBlackford
    @TroyBlackford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation and demonstration. I hit subscribe about a minute and a half in. Checking out your other videos now.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome fm sound effects are alway's complex to make but worth it.

  • @AndreaDePaoliSynthChannel
    @AndreaDePaoliSynthChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very lightning explanation man. Thank You!

  • @warrengday
    @warrengday 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating. Brilliantly explained.

  • @MrTeamcatfish
    @MrTeamcatfish 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Keith. Keep these coming !

  • @albertofirrincielithinkinmusic
    @albertofirrincielithinkinmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful video and extremely clear explanation, thank you ☺️

  • @LondraCalibro9
    @LondraCalibro9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    more instruction classes on fm please!!!!! basic string/pads etc - these are great videos!

    • @ecernosoft3096
      @ecernosoft3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mehtes
    @mehtes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job man, thank you for the video

  • @anishkelkar6434
    @anishkelkar6434 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Looking forward to more hands on exporation on fm synthesis.

  • @MultitrackCassetteFans
    @MultitrackCassetteFans 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explanation, thanks 👍

  • @trevor4835
    @trevor4835 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are an awesome teacher!

  • @ekaterinastaneva9922
    @ekaterinastaneva9922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underrated video man. Great job, liked!

  • @javiceres
    @javiceres 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great!
    I've always wondered what the difference was !!
    Thanks mate :)

  • @dusanvukasovic2525
    @dusanvukasovic2525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people say, Yamaha's FM synthesis is not really FM, but Phase Modulation, which I don't really get because frequency modulation is achieved by speeding and slowing (or even reversing backwards) a phase of a wave (I guess).
    So many things still to learn about my TX81z, but meanwhile I understood one thing. I need to learn about various natural (physical) ways harmonics "grow" from musical instruments too. E.g.: string instruments produce harmonics that are slightly sharper (therefore inharmonious) than basic note fq (thickness of a string).
    I don't know if that can be reproduced with DX synths, and there are some softsynths that can do that, but I can tell it's very difficult to find analytic texts about where in nature (I mean in physical systems like musical instruments, primarly) a frequency modulation occures, ...and how (and the ones that can be mimicked by FM, like cutoff filter sweeps)

  • @jangyune
    @jangyune 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid I've been looking to find. Could you plz post other vids to explain other types of algorithms?

  • @ecernosoft3096
    @ecernosoft3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Just, Thank you.

  • @vste8
    @vste8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well explained and informative video

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Vitor, I'm glad to pass on what I know.

  • @Racingheartrecords
    @Racingheartrecords 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a Yamaha TX-802, and I'd love to watch more videos like this to explain FM synthesis. Thank you! This was really great.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad you liked the video. I'm currently working on a new video, showing how to develop a bass FM patch, with all of the nitty gritty details explained.

    • @Racingheartrecords
      @Racingheartrecords 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great!

  • @darwiniandude
    @darwiniandude 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Great video :) Made perfect sense. Knowledge increased ✔

  • @indiemoon
    @indiemoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much Keith

  • @Rangotz
    @Rangotz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you a lot, very informative video

  • @jorgebraccini2113
    @jorgebraccini2113 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! The Edirol UA-25! Nice to see one more around

  • @13thvamp9
    @13thvamp9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok , got it ! Now going back to my DX7 ll with Grey Matter E ! Thanks .

  • @edwardkim1349
    @edwardkim1349 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Corn3liu
    @Corn3liu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazingly clear and logic explanation. Best, by far. Congratulations, keep on creating amazing content!

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment Corneliu.

  • @Pontiki1977
    @Pontiki1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video(s).

  • @juanfelipegaravitobarrios8633
    @juanfelipegaravitobarrios8633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm quite confused about some videos that sate that FM synthesis is truly Phase modulation. So I'm not sure if they are wrong and it is just a problem fo confusing Linear and Exponential FM

  • @getgle
    @getgle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @MalbekTV
    @MalbekTV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    aweasome thanks

  • @dulmin_
    @dulmin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks this was really informative.
    The sound at the beginning of the video was a bit odd for me, but the explanation was crystal clear. Thanks again!!...

  • @palpatony2082
    @palpatony2082 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation. Thanks!

  • @surefmeurope5766
    @surefmeurope5766 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well explained 👍

  • @paulwolf451
    @paulwolf451 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a bunch! Great Video!

  • @perandersskytt134
    @perandersskytt134 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great!

  • @psycox8758
    @psycox8758 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explanation! Thanks.

  • @draconianrhythms
    @draconianrhythms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, I get it!! Thank you

  • @LlewynDaviesTheThird
    @LlewynDaviesTheThird 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best you tube video I've seen in ages. Thanks :) great explanation. The mist has cleared.

    • @jan-martinulvag1962
      @jan-martinulvag1962 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      FM synthesis tutorial, preparing for Volca FM (feat. Nord Modular G2)

  • @robman80808
    @robman80808 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful explanation, thanks.

  • @imdanielh
    @imdanielh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @gloverelaxis
    @gloverelaxis 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explanation, thanks keith!

  • @rarebin
    @rarebin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Thank you!

  • @sir_williamW
    @sir_williamW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thank you for the information, i cleared my doubts respect this theme.

    • @krmelectronics
      @krmelectronics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words Sir William.

  • @TravellingSynths
    @TravellingSynths 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much!

  • @Asicasters
    @Asicasters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, thank you

  • @FOCtv
    @FOCtv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video Keith, but I was thinking there might be more to digital FM, at least the way it is implemented by Yamaha. Isn't there something called 'through zero' FM that causes the harmonic series to be more 'manageable' in digital FM? Through zero FM is supposed to be a huge reason why FM synths sound the way they do. I know through zero can be implemented in analog but it's quite complicated. I'd love to see a video discussing more of this topic.

    • @boptillyouflop
      @boptillyouflop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. Yamaha-style FM synths do through zero as well, which is another thing that helps keep the carrier average frequency the same. The last thing is that Yamaha-style FM uses phase modulation instead of directly modulating frequency... the effect is mostly the same if your modulator is a sine wave, except it makes it much easier to keep the carrier in tune, since even if your modulator has a DC offset, the average frequency won't change.

    • @FOCtv
      @FOCtv 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for your reply. It was very informative.

  • @martinberlugue2769
    @martinberlugue2769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So : for simplify :
    Exponential is modulation in term of pitch
    Linear is modulation in term of Hertz
    I finally have the response ! Thanks !

  • @tommymandel
    @tommymandel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a clear and informative video!
    One question: was the pitch of oscillator 2 (the modulator) fixed? I think that was your point in contrasting exponential (modulator’s pitch tracks the keyboard) with linear (modulator’s pitch is constant, no matter what note you play?)
    Regrettably, I don’t have my DX 7 anymore, so I can’t check it out that easily!
    Thanks again.

  • @RicoLee27
    @RicoLee27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what kind of basses SeamlessR could make with that synth

  • @DiminishedDarknut
    @DiminishedDarknut ปีที่แล้ว

    Did anyone else catch the chemical brothers reference at 2:48? Really sounded just like the song

  • @mike.thomas
    @mike.thomas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Thanks!

  • @laurencevanhelsuwe3052
    @laurencevanhelsuwe3052 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation.

  • @liammondou713
    @liammondou713 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much, this video was awesome!

  • @xxheartbrokexx100
    @xxheartbrokexx100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome vid Keith

  • @senghoulakitte3653
    @senghoulakitte3653 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @2JohJoh2
    @2JohJoh2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, was hoping someone could explain layer 3 and 4 in FM :)

  • @minijackaudio
    @minijackaudio 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks, very clear and informative!

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @vlogswithankitnayakvlogs
    @vlogswithankitnayakvlogs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks