I agree with your theory of Angela being the killer and it being an accident and Caroline trying to repay her debt to her by taking the blame. Thats exactly how I read it as well. A prank gone wrong. But we shall see if any new information comes in the 2nd part to change this idea.
I was thinking it was Philip because he was in love with Caroline. When Angela said she saw Caroline leaving Philip's room, it made him too likely a suspect. I like your reasoning behind Angela being the suspect, but this is Agatha Christie. She gets me every time!
I like your theory about angela, and someone else's comment in this video that Caroline thought Angela did it, but Angela actually didn't (which is why Angela's so willing to share the letter with Poirot, versus if she thought the letter implicated herself, she would never mention the letter existed). I can't help but think there unestablished/deeper connections between pairs of characters that may help us get to the identity of the killer (The brothers, Elsa+1 brother, Philip+Cecilia - maybe Philip has made cecilia into a woman hater?). I also think its interesting that when amyas dies he says everythings tasting wierd today, which would imply that the beer and some earlier food he ate/drank was also poisoned, so will be on the lookout to see if Amyas had breakfast with someone the day he died. For now, I'm suspecting Meredith blake the most. He owns the poisons. He admires caroline. He wanted to overwrite whatever story Philip was going to write. Nothing damning yet, but he's got my suss-meter up the most. Im listening to the audio book so its harder to find sections, but i was kindof drawn to a section where poirot refers to the daughter caroline, and one character reacts as though mother caroline could possibly still be alive. Is it possible she's still alive? not sure.
I took extensive notes when reading part 1, so I remember having similar thoughts like your "initial thoughts" segment too. Without spoilers, I don't think I dwelled on it as much because usually in mysteries "the future overrides the past", especially since this is a cold case and the author's intention is for the reader to read and be interested the whole book, new insights and all~ Agatha Christie is indeed very devious though, I think by the end you will come back and have a good laugh at a certain loose comment you made in this video~
So excited to be reading this along with everyone! The structure of the book is so different than other Christie's. I find it fascinating to read! I really like your reasoning about Angela. It makes me wonder though, what if maybe Caroline thought the same way. She *thought* it was Angela, so she took the fall for her. But it was *actually* someone else.... My first thought before watching your video was that maybe Caroline did do it after all. That would be a nice twist with us all making theories about the five little pigs and it ends up not being any of them. But I don't have any evidence for that idea beyond everyone saying it was her... I wish it were Philip. He seems horrible! 😆 I find Meredith a little sus, with his unending admiration for Caroline, but why would he frame her... I don't suspect Elsa at all at this point. And I think Cecilia's extreme character is meant to make us be prejudiced against her but is a red herring.... So after part 1, all I've got is that I want it to be Philip. Lol. (PS - Love that your mom is reading along too!)
I know who done it but I'm not telling anyone. It will be interesting to watch the thought process. I now take notes when reading; learned that from you. Thanks
I am torn between Angela and Elsa. I think Angela makes sense as the potential killer for all the reasons you said in your video. But I also suspect Elsa. The book mentions her going for a sweater, giving her the opportunity to get the poison. There were numerous other affairs that were eventually broken off. Perhaps Amyas broke things off with Elsa giving her motivation for the killing.
Once you are finished with your read-through, I really recommend watching the episode from the Poirot series starring David Suchet. It's wonderfully done and a strong contender for the best episode of the series.
Oh I can't wait for the next videos! This was excellent. I love the premise of this book and the format, it works so well! I can't remember exactly what I was thinking at this point the first time I read it, but I had definitely ruled out Ms Williams, for the same reasons you stated. The others were all still in the running for me, I didn't have any theories lol
This is the first time I am trying to solve an Agatha Christie, and its fun, but hard! My initial theory is that Philip is gay! The way he talks about Amyas I think he was in love, and that maybe gives him the motive to kill him because he is leaving him for yet another woman. So I really didnt like when Angela said Philip and Caroline was together and I dont want it to be true either! Mayyyybe if they had an affair, if Caroline thought Philip did it she would protect him, but why would he hate her so much? Because she went to jail and he couldnt be with her? He is really not a pleasant man. But he seems capable of murder. Also he blames Caroline so hard, that seems suspicous. I also had the Angela theory, with all the mentions of her pranks it is the one who stands out, also with Caroline not saying anything at her trial, I am convinced Caroline thought she was protecting Angela, ofc Angela might not actually be the murderer. The one thing I thought didnt make sense there was, why would Angela wipe the prints of the flask and put Amyas prints? Maybe then that Caroline did it when she realised that Angela was guilty…. She really wanted everyone to think it was suicide so it would make sense that Caroline did it. Because otherwise why would anyone wipe it, everyone knows that Caroline brought him the beer, her prints should be on the bottle! The poison wasnt even in the bottle! Also Amyas said the beer tasted weird, probably bc of poison, so someone must have poisoned it before, Angela was in the kitchen when Caroline got the beer, she could have poured something in the glass Another theory I have is that Meredith said that there was less poison in his poisonflask, but he still had poison left! Someone could have seen Caroline take the poison for herself, then made their own plan, took poison from the poisonflask as well in the pipette that was used! And then somehow poured out Carolines perfumebottle without leaving any prints on the perfume bottle…. Yeah I dont know the only thing that makes sense is Caroline trying to protect Angela, but I also had the feeling it might be to obvious. Meredith I feel like maybe, he had the poison, he might have a motive, but he doesnt seem like the man to take action too murder Amyas for his mistreatment of Caroline, and I cant find another motive right now. Elsa Greer, sure, she could be a killer as a person, she had the opportunity to kill him, spending all the time with him, maybe she found out he was only with her for the painting and would then leave her. I dont know. Cecilia I have no reason to believe
I also like the theory about Angela, but my biggest suspicions are directed at Christie. There is oh so much hearsay in all this! An early niggling question for me is about the “old frightened” servants that were immediately dismissed as knowing nothing. Servants know everything in houses like this. 🤷♀️PS Someone else commented here that Caroline Sr may have believed Angela did it, but was wrong about that. That seems very possible. Also, is there anything to the fact that Caroline Sr was five when she had her unfortunate fit of temper and Caroline Jr (Carla) was around the same when the murder happened? She could have poisoned him or his glass before leaving on her trip. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
I agree with your theory of Angela being the killer and it being an accident and Caroline trying to repay her debt to her by taking the blame. Thats exactly how I read it as well. A prank gone wrong. But we shall see if any new information comes in the 2nd part to change this idea.
I was thinking it was Philip because he was in love with Caroline. When Angela said she saw Caroline leaving Philip's room, it made him too likely a suspect. I like your reasoning behind Angela being the suspect, but this is Agatha Christie. She gets me every time!
I like your theory about angela, and someone else's comment in this video that Caroline thought Angela did it, but Angela actually didn't (which is why Angela's so willing to share the letter with Poirot, versus if she thought the letter implicated herself, she would never mention the letter existed). I can't help but think there unestablished/deeper connections between pairs of characters that may help us get to the identity of the killer (The brothers, Elsa+1 brother, Philip+Cecilia - maybe Philip has made cecilia into a woman hater?). I also think its interesting that when amyas dies he says everythings tasting wierd today, which would imply that the beer and some earlier food he ate/drank was also poisoned, so will be on the lookout to see if Amyas had breakfast with someone the day he died. For now, I'm suspecting Meredith blake the most. He owns the poisons. He admires caroline. He wanted to overwrite whatever story Philip was going to write. Nothing damning yet, but he's got my suss-meter up the most. Im listening to the audio book so its harder to find sections, but i was kindof drawn to a section where poirot refers to the daughter caroline, and one character reacts as though mother caroline could possibly still be alive. Is it possible she's still alive? not sure.
Once you've finished the book, you really ought to watch the David Suchet adaptation
It's one of the best
I took extensive notes when reading part 1, so I remember having similar thoughts like your "initial thoughts" segment too. Without spoilers, I don't think I dwelled on it as much because usually in mysteries "the future overrides the past", especially since this is a cold case and the author's intention is for the reader to read and be interested the whole book, new insights and all~ Agatha Christie is indeed very devious though, I think by the end you will come back and have a good laugh at a certain loose comment you made in this video~
So excited to be reading this along with everyone! The structure of the book is so different than other Christie's. I find it fascinating to read!
I really like your reasoning about Angela. It makes me wonder though, what if maybe Caroline thought the same way. She *thought* it was Angela, so she took the fall for her. But it was *actually* someone else....
My first thought before watching your video was that maybe Caroline did do it after all. That would be a nice twist with us all making theories about the five little pigs and it ends up not being any of them. But I don't have any evidence for that idea beyond everyone saying it was her... I wish it were Philip. He seems horrible! 😆 I find Meredith a little sus, with his unending admiration for Caroline, but why would he frame her... I don't suspect Elsa at all at this point. And I think Cecilia's extreme character is meant to make us be prejudiced against her but is a red herring....
So after part 1, all I've got is that I want it to be Philip. Lol.
(PS - Love that your mom is reading along too!)
I know who done it but I'm not telling anyone. It will be interesting to watch the thought process. I now take notes when reading; learned that from you. Thanks
I am torn between Angela and Elsa. I think Angela makes sense as the potential killer for all the reasons you said in your video. But I also suspect Elsa. The book mentions her going for a sweater, giving her the opportunity to get the poison. There were numerous other affairs that were eventually broken off. Perhaps Amyas broke things off with Elsa giving her motivation for the killing.
Once you are finished with your read-through, I really recommend watching the episode from the Poirot series starring David Suchet. It's wonderfully done and a strong contender for the best episode of the series.
I love his Poirot!
Oh I can't wait for the next videos! This was excellent. I love the premise of this book and the format, it works so well! I can't remember exactly what I was thinking at this point the first time I read it, but I had definitely ruled out Ms Williams, for the same reasons you stated. The others were all still in the running for me, I didn't have any theories lol
This is the first time I am trying to solve an Agatha Christie, and its fun, but hard!
My initial theory is that Philip is gay! The way he talks about Amyas I think he was in love, and that maybe gives him the motive to kill him because he is leaving him for yet another woman. So I really didnt like when Angela said Philip and Caroline was together and I dont want it to be true either! Mayyyybe if they had an affair, if Caroline thought Philip did it she would protect him, but why would he hate her so much? Because she went to jail and he couldnt be with her? He is really not a pleasant man. But he seems capable of murder. Also he blames Caroline so hard, that seems suspicous.
I also had the Angela theory, with all the mentions of her pranks it is the one who stands out, also with Caroline not saying anything at her trial, I am convinced Caroline thought she was protecting Angela, ofc Angela might not actually be the murderer. The one thing I thought didnt make sense there was, why would Angela wipe the prints of the flask and put Amyas prints? Maybe then that Caroline did it when she realised that Angela was guilty…. She really wanted everyone to think it was suicide so it would make sense that Caroline did it. Because otherwise why would anyone wipe it, everyone knows that Caroline brought him the beer, her prints should be on the bottle! The poison wasnt even in the bottle! Also Amyas said the beer tasted weird, probably bc of poison, so someone must have poisoned it before, Angela was in the kitchen when Caroline got the beer, she could have poured something in the glass
Another theory I have is that Meredith said that there was less poison in his poisonflask, but he still had poison left! Someone could have seen Caroline take the poison for herself, then made their own plan, took poison from the poisonflask as well in the pipette that was used! And then somehow poured out Carolines perfumebottle without leaving any prints on the perfume bottle…. Yeah I dont know the only thing that makes sense is Caroline trying to protect Angela, but I also had the feeling it might be to obvious.
Meredith I feel like maybe, he had the poison, he might have a motive, but he doesnt seem like the man to take action too murder Amyas for his mistreatment of Caroline, and I cant find another motive right now.
Elsa Greer, sure, she could be a killer as a person, she had the opportunity to kill him, spending all the time with him, maybe she found out he was only with her for the painting and would then leave her. I dont know.
Cecilia I have no reason to believe
I also like the theory about Angela, but my biggest suspicions are directed at Christie. There is oh so much hearsay in all this! An early niggling question for me is about the “old frightened” servants that were immediately dismissed as knowing nothing. Servants know everything in houses like this. 🤷♀️PS Someone else commented here that Caroline Sr may have believed Angela did it, but was wrong about that. That seems very possible. Also, is there anything to the fact that Caroline Sr was five when she had her unfortunate fit of temper and Caroline Jr (Carla) was around the same when the murder happened? She could have poisoned him or his glass before leaving on her trip. 🤷♀️🤷♀️