If your tent has a liner it would be warmer, but when you are at -30, ten above feels like a slice of heaven! Done many a night with this stove and slept toasty.
I used Yukon's in the Army back in the mid to late 80's and I was shocked to find the upgraded model when I deployed to Afghanistan. I was impressed with the improvements and never thought I'd actually want one for personal use. How times have changed.
I used all 3 types during my time in the Army. The pot belly, Yukon and the new Hunter. All I can say is clean daily. I used to make my soldiers clean out the pipes each day. Probably because we used JP8 and the old diesel in the Army was pretty dirty. Some dirt, small rocks and shake, shake, shake. Afterwards, the pipes were coated with mineral oil.
Hmm... never heard of using mineral oil. Sounds like a good idea... anyone had good results using mineral to coat the pipes or is it a waste of time/resources?
how many BTUs does it put out. I read somewhere that it was 15,000-20,000 if that is true the Yukon 1950 gives out 3-4 times more. Thanks for your informative vids and your THOROUGH response this past week about AM & FM radios!!!!! You are a real resource!!!
Thanks for the great Army Training video. Reminded me of rainy day in Germany when i would take my platoon to the MOS library and watch training films. And the EW they had doing the demonstration was outstanding. She deserves a 4 day pass.
I used the older version of the Yukon stove in Korea in 1977-1980. We used Gasoline ,as diesel froze at -30 below, and if you don't try to relight while hot, we didn't have any problems. Nice to have hot water for coffee in the morning, and we used it to heat the old c-rations!
Oh man that is sweet! Get a Co2 + fire detector if you don't have one. I lost neighbors one year (God rest their souls) as they evidentially didn't have a single working one in their home. Co2 detection is not just for gas heat users. God bless bro!
@k1111117 Glad to be of service. The documentation says 20,000 btu's. the yukon hands down give off more heat with solid fuels, then again, it could burn more wood at a time.I have both the Yukon and SHA, when I get some more parts and time, I'm going to face these two heater against each other in a video.
I pour a priming cup of generally any low flash point fuel I may have around for ignition. After the burner shell heats up, I feed waste motor oil in to the burner shell. I am working on an oil injection system for it as well as an igniter. I have yet to connect the fuel lines and control valve. This would be useful for ignition fuel.
I got mine on EBAY for about $120 U.S. brand new in original packing. I do not know where in Canada they will sell at. I would look in military surplus stores but this stove is rare to find these days. Good luck on your search.
Thanks for the instructional vid. I have one of these that came with a tent I bought second hand. It came with tripod and fuel cans but no instructions.
I clean it once a season, my install is not to code, so I inspect more often as a precaution. I use a 4 inch chimney sweep with some fiberglass extension poles, thay have them in your big box hardware store.
We used a fuel only military stove when in the gulf war.If you mix 80% JP 8 and 20% JET A-1 you will have a cleaner burn.After 6 months we only had to clean it when packing it away
@rimfirematt around 40 to 50 pounds, haven't put on a scale or anything. it feels that heavy with all the accessories and parts which fits inside the stove like the yukon. The diameter of the pipe is tapered from 5 1/2 inches at the stove to about 4. inches on the top.
Not specifically made for this equipment, what you see is what you get. What I did was use some of the sections that tapered down to 8 or 6 inches (I forget), then transitioned to double walled pipe section you can get at your local hardware type stores. So, far no carbon dioxide leaks or smoke in my garage going this route. Warning, probably not to building code, but its my backup temp survival setup in case I really need it.
Actually yes, our tax dollars did pay for it...and it works quite well when used correctly. Ive used it to -25 with no isses and it works off multiple fuels and generally doesnt have parts that break easily.
I remember slogging 10 miles through the snow to a range with about an hours sleep in 24 hours to go to Instructional sessions like that. Then the Drill Sargents wonder why you fall asleep.
I just got mine in. Thinking of buying a second. I stumbled onto these looking for a yukon also after watching yankee preppers vid. I'm eager to try it out. I'm still looking for a yukon. I have been given a m-41 potbelly stove. needs some work though
initially when you start and at the end it smells of diesel a little bit. During operation it goes away pretty quick. I always let the burner go burning after I disconnected the fuel. it will leak out the overflow hose if you leave any fuel in the system. not a very good on/off mechanism for it.
@InTheSticks0001 I have both and fired them up with scrap wood. the yukon I would say is the better all round stove in this class. you could burn gas, longer pieces of wood and it boils water quickly. The SHA does not boil the same amount of water and does gas is not recommended. I like the SHA for space heating and conserving fuels in my workspace and use the Yukon for burning oils.
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Wow, I've actually seen this video years ago on how to use it. LOL. I remember the burner on the old version being on top, and the fill valve was a simple screw. We used a gas/diesel mix usually. I nearly blew my shop foreman to bits once using straight MOGAS with the valve wide open. The sides of the Hex Tent bellowed out like a cartoon when he lit it and he emerged with singed brows and a smoldering moustache. We laughed like hell after it was established that he was free of 3rd degree burns
You could try a military surplus store, or, EBAY. they are expensive though. There are two kinds of plasic gerry cans, one for water the other for fuel. good luck. I use a small canister I rigged up to supply the fuel.
I have used the M1950 a lot and the older pot belly a little. The pot belly burner system was similar to the SHA. Using strait diesel or JP4 would soot up the the system and create a terrible mess. cutting in about a gallon of gas would make it burn cleaner and hotter. Using strait JP4 would require cleaning the burner unit and stack every 4 days or so. and what a mess it would be, it's difficult to clean it without becoming covered in soot. I found the 1950 to be a little easier to clean and there is not much to the burner. I don't think I would use solid fuel in ether unless it were life or death.
In 2 winters in Alaska at fort Richardson I never heard of a tent fire using a Yukon stove running mogas and if there had been a fire the brigade would have let us know E Co 2/23 inf 172 nd bde 1973-74
how much liquid fuel to burn for 6 hrs? also with cole how long will it continue to put out heat , last question has anyone had success with used moter oil?
John Hales I would not recommend used motor oil because the viscosity is too high and it could* have difficulty flowing through the control valve. Used motor oil also runs the risk of not being able to vaporize properly and could* result in a very inefficient burn with high carbon monoxide production. This thing isn’t built to run on sludge, it’s built to run on diesel, kerosene, and in emergencies, gasoline, all of which are much less thick then used motor oil. The manual probably tells you how much fuel it consumes per hour, and coal burns long enough to get you through most of the night without having to constantly keep waking up to stoke the fire.
Love that video I got one years ago but I've never used it......... I'll try my bio diesel cuz I've got quite a bit lately & don't use much in the winter........ not much incentive to go out there to make bio with no heat during the winter in the UK.
I've used that heater in -30 here in alaska. It keeps your tent just warm enough so you don't see your breath. Other than that they are a gigantic pain in the ass. But it's better than nothing.
I would love to use this in my un insulated garage, where I plan on living in next winter. Price is great. Thanks for posting. How many square footage will it warm? I only have a one car garage.
Don't know about sq footage, but they claim a 10 man tent, which will fit a car with extra room. My garage is a typical 1 car garage,it heats it up alright, if I had insulation in it, I'll be toasty for sure. Here's a 3 year update if interested. Thanks for watching. Off Grid Heat Source. Army Surplus Space Heater 3 Year Updates & Mods..
+nzinga zindua Not my post.. but check your home insurance.. Your rates will either go sky high or you could loose your coverage. It won't heat a garage very well. It was designed for small Artic Tents, the New Squad Tents, and GP Smalls. Nothing bigger than about a room with 15 ' diameter or perhaps 400 sq ft. It'll work in your garage but you'll still need to dress warm. Also, the fuel can sits upside down on a tripod and needs to be located outside the room and place the tripod and drip can inside a large drip pan. As the hoses do leak from the quick disconnects after about a year.
Yeah this is a bad idea in a.residential setting. The stove pipes need to be cleaned daily. A chimney fire WILL happen. If it is being used daily in a residential environment.
I dont think you are using it correctly or you may have a regulator for a H 45 stove which is a common mistake in the surplus market. I have used these stoves while stationed in AK in -40 F with no issues. They are very simple to use, try downloading the FM which is open source now.
@ michael Veldman, do a search for "army diesel tent heater". as of December 22, 2013, this particular model is still available among quite a few other models, both military and non-military. This one now is selling for $202 US on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-SHA-Multi-fuel-Space-Heater-Stove-Hunting-Fishing-Workshops-Skating-/111241938527?_trksid=p2054897.l4276
Does anyone else think it's funny that of everyone available to demo this stove ... they picked a WOMAN to do so? I guess it's more believable that a woman was working with the stove. :) It's a joke people, you know it's funny! Don't give me crap.
If your tent has a liner it would be warmer, but when you are at -30, ten above feels like a slice of heaven! Done many a night with this stove and slept toasty.
I used Yukon's in the Army back in the mid to late 80's and I was shocked to find the upgraded model when I deployed to Afghanistan. I was impressed with the improvements and never thought I'd actually want one for personal use. How times have changed.
I used all 3 types during my time in the Army. The pot belly, Yukon and the new Hunter. All I can say is clean daily. I used to make my soldiers clean out the pipes each day. Probably because we used JP8 and the old diesel in the Army was pretty dirty. Some dirt, small rocks and shake, shake, shake. Afterwards, the pipes were coated with mineral oil.
Hmm... never heard of using mineral oil. Sounds like a good idea... anyone had good results using mineral to coat the pipes or is it a waste of time/resources?
I know this is late but cooking oil works too so it dosent rust
how many BTUs does it put out. I read somewhere that it was 15,000-20,000 if that is true the Yukon 1950 gives out 3-4 times more. Thanks for your informative vids and your THOROUGH response this past week about AM & FM radios!!!!!
You are a real resource!!!
Thanks for the great Army Training video. Reminded me of rainy day in Germany when i would take my platoon to the MOS library and watch training films. And the EW they had doing the demonstration was outstanding. She deserves a 4 day pass.
I used the older version of the Yukon stove in Korea in 1977-1980. We used Gasoline ,as diesel froze at -30 below, and if you don't try to relight while hot, we didn't have any problems. Nice to have hot water for coffee in the morning, and we used it to heat the old c-rations!
i used a mixture of mogas and diesel for the same reason but diesel has more btu
Oh man that is sweet! Get a Co2 + fire detector if you don't have one. I lost neighbors one year (God rest their souls) as they evidentially didn't have a single working one in their home. Co2 detection is not just for gas heat users. God bless bro!
@k1111117 Glad to be of service. The documentation says 20,000 btu's. the yukon hands down give off more heat with solid fuels, then again, it could burn more wood at a time.I have both the Yukon and SHA, when I get some more parts and time, I'm going to face these two heater against each other in a video.
I pour a priming cup of generally any low flash point fuel I may have around for ignition. After the burner shell heats up, I feed waste motor oil in to the burner shell. I am working on an oil injection system for it as well as an igniter. I have yet to connect the fuel lines and control valve. This would be useful for ignition fuel.
I got mine on EBAY for about $120 U.S. brand new in original packing. I do not know where in Canada they will sell at. I would look in military surplus stores but this stove is rare to find these days. Good luck on your search.
Thanks for the instructional vid.
I have one of these that came with a tent I bought second hand.
It came with tripod and fuel cans but no instructions.
If you only knew the half of it... Its a beautiful state with some jacked up parasites running it. Though some of us do fight the machine.
I clean it once a season, my install is not to code, so I inspect more often as a precaution. I use a 4 inch chimney sweep with some fiberglass extension poles, thay have them in your big box hardware store.
We used a fuel only military stove when in the gulf war.If you mix 80% JP 8 and 20% JET A-1 you will have a cleaner burn.After 6 months we only had to clean it when packing it away
Middle East gets that cold at night
@rimfirematt around 40 to 50 pounds, haven't put on a scale or anything. it feels that heavy with all the accessories and parts which fits inside the stove like the yukon. The diameter of the pipe is tapered from 5 1/2 inches at the stove to about 4. inches on the top.
Not specifically made for this equipment, what you see is what you get. What I did was use some of the sections that tapered down to 8 or 6 inches (I forget), then transitioned to double walled pipe section you can get at your local hardware type stores. So, far no carbon dioxide leaks or smoke in my garage going this route. Warning, probably not to building code, but its my backup temp survival setup in case I really need it.
look at antiques/barn stores where they sell old knicknacks and junk up here in maine u can find them everywhere most times under 100.
Actually yes, our tax dollars did pay for it...and it works quite well when used correctly. Ive used it to -25 with no isses and it works off multiple fuels and generally doesnt have parts that break easily.
I remember slogging 10 miles through the snow to a range with about an hours sleep in 24 hours to go to Instructional sessions like that. Then the Drill Sargents wonder why you fall asleep.
I just got mine in. Thinking of buying a second. I stumbled onto these looking for a yukon also after watching yankee preppers vid. I'm eager to try it out. I'm still looking for a yukon. I have been given a m-41 potbelly stove. needs some work though
Thanks for the useful ideas. It's helpful to hear details. Thx
initially when you start and at the end it smells of diesel a little bit. During operation it goes away pretty quick. I always let the burner go burning after I disconnected the fuel. it will leak out the overflow hose if you leave any fuel in the system. not a very good on/off mechanism for it.
@InTheSticks0001 I have both and fired them up with scrap wood. the yukon I would say is the better all round stove in this class. you could burn gas, longer pieces of wood and it boils water quickly. The SHA does not boil the same amount of water and does gas is not recommended. I like the SHA for space heating and conserving fuels in my workspace and use the Yukon for burning oils.
Cool stove! Might wanna do some roof insulation aswell, otherwise you'll need a lot of wood.
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I do not need one but I want one! As for heating a house or shop this would be useless BUT for camping use this would be GREAT!
Wow, I've actually seen this video years ago on how to use it. LOL.
I remember the burner on the old version being on top, and the fill valve was a simple screw. We used a gas/diesel mix usually. I nearly blew my shop foreman to bits once using straight MOGAS with the valve wide open. The sides of the Hex Tent bellowed out like a cartoon when he lit it and he emerged with singed brows and a smoldering moustache. We laughed like hell after it was established that he was free of 3rd degree burns
The Cali tree huggers are definitely going to catch ya.
I'll just spread some granola & wheat germ to throw them off my trail. ;
That's awesome!!!
You could try a military surplus store, or, EBAY. they are expensive though. There are two kinds of plasic gerry cans, one for water the other for fuel. good luck. I use a small canister I rigged up to supply the fuel.
Can anyone tell me why Gasoline cannot be used but Jet A can?
I have used the M1950 a lot and the older pot belly a little. The pot belly burner system was similar to the SHA. Using strait diesel or JP4 would soot up the the system and create a terrible mess.
cutting in about a gallon of gas would make it burn cleaner and hotter. Using strait JP4 would require cleaning the burner unit and stack every 4 days or so. and what a mess it would be, it's difficult to clean it without becoming covered in soot. I found the 1950 to be a little easier to clean and there is not much to the burner. I don't think I would use solid fuel in ether unless it were life or death.
These things are now in the 400 range plus 70 to ship. I need to go to a military auction.
In 2 winters in Alaska at fort Richardson I never heard of a tent fire using a Yukon stove running mogas and if there had been a fire the brigade would have let us know E Co 2/23 inf 172 nd bde 1973-74
have you (or anyone else) experimented with this using this SHA with waste motor oil as fuel (or a blend of it) ?
Yes, I purchased mine brand new on EBAY.
how much liquid fuel to burn for 6 hrs? also with cole how long will it continue to put out heat , last question has anyone had success with used moter oil?
John Hales I would not recommend used motor oil because the viscosity is too high and it could* have difficulty flowing through the control valve. Used motor oil also runs the risk of not being able to vaporize properly and could* result in a very inefficient burn with high carbon monoxide production. This thing isn’t built to run on sludge, it’s built to run on diesel, kerosene, and in emergencies, gasoline, all of which are much less thick then used motor oil. The manual probably tells you how much fuel it consumes per hour, and coal burns long enough to get you through most of the night without having to constantly keep waking up to stoke the fire.
That was great wish I had one.
There's a guy in a near by town, who's selling these for $150. I may buy a few. They seem really good.
The full name is the Hunter (space Heater Artic), hope that helps.
Love that video I got one years ago but I've never used it......... I'll try my bio diesel cuz I've got quite a bit lately & don't use much in the winter........ not much incentive to go out there to make bio with no heat during the winter in the UK.
I've used that heater in -30 here in alaska. It keeps your tent just warm enough so you don't see your breath. Other than that they are a gigantic pain in the ass. But it's better than nothing.
Can you tell me what the Canada army uses now in 2021
These are extremely hard to come by, especially the Yukon Stove
Hi
Thanks for the video. I just managed to get one of these and I'm so happy.
Do you know where do you buy the jerry cans that fit the stove.
@bradmcclain Got mine on Ebay, for about 140 (that included #20 shipping). watch out there's ads asking for $300.
Do you still have this for sale?
Obviously fuel operation is not off-grid, nor is it even wise for those on a budget.
But the option to burn kindling and coal is great.
We used barrel type in Canada army in thr 1970s
I would love to use this in my un insulated garage, where I plan on living in next winter. Price is great. Thanks for posting. How many square footage will it warm? I only have a one car garage.
Don't know about sq footage, but they claim a 10 man tent, which will fit a car with extra room. My garage is a typical 1 car garage,it heats it up alright, if I had insulation in it, I'll be toasty for sure. Here's a 3 year update if interested. Thanks for watching.
Off Grid Heat Source. Army Surplus Space Heater 3 Year Updates & Mods..
Thanks. Will check it out.
Its a mobile tent stove, not a permanent fixture it was designed like that. I'm more worried about carbon monoxide than creosote.
That's an awesome stove, but there are none to be found. Plenty of 1950 Yukon stove are out there, but not this one.
Does your garage smell like diesel? I'm thinking about getting one for a wall tent.
Thanks
what is the diameter of the stove pipe? Thanks in advance
I am converting my single car garage into a living space. You think your size stove will heat up my garage? Great vid.
+nzinga zindua Not my post.. but check your home insurance.. Your rates will either go sky high or you could loose your coverage. It won't heat a garage very well. It was designed for small Artic Tents, the New Squad Tents, and GP Smalls. Nothing bigger than about a room with 15 ' diameter or perhaps 400 sq ft. It'll work in your garage but you'll still need to dress warm. Also, the fuel can sits upside down on a tripod and needs to be located outside the room and place the tripod and drip can inside a large drip pan. As the hoses do leak from the quick disconnects after about a year.
Robert Cole Thanks.
Yeah this is a bad idea in a.residential setting. The stove pipes need to be cleaned daily. A chimney fire WILL happen. If it is being used daily in a residential environment.
will this also burn waste oil?
how often should you clean the stove pipes?
if burning wood, once a season. liquid fuel, Ive gone 3 years. It rust easily, I inspect the stove pipes once a season.
@@GUERRILLACOMM spray the pipe with high temp stove pipe paint
Yup, along with the $600 toilet seat cover.
Where can i get one in Ontario Canada?? and do you know the cost?? Thank you.
I cant seam to find one on ebay what is it called thank you
Scour the DLA or DRMO auction websites, most installations around the country have these for cheap.
I dont think you are using it correctly or you may have a regulator for a H 45 stove which is a common mistake in the surplus market. I have used these stoves while stationed in AK in -40 F with no issues. They are very simple to use, try downloading the FM which is open source now.
You mispronounced COMMIEfornia.
Did not find it for $120. They are all in $400 and up
@ michael Veldman, do a search for "army diesel tent heater". as of December 22, 2013, this particular model is still available among quite a few other models, both military and non-military. This one now is selling for $202 US on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-SHA-Multi-fuel-Space-Heater-Stove-Hunting-Fishing-Workshops-Skating-/111241938527?_trksid=p2054897.l4276
oh yeah, does it really weigh 50lbs. It just doesnt look that heavy
Can I use gasoline in it?
websuspect yes you can but the manual says that gasoline should only be used in emergencies,
Just checked eBay , those things are going for $500 bucks now!
Unfortunatly, no. they give a strick waorning and disclaimerabout using Gasolene.
Jezus.... it's more complicated than a minute man rocket.....
Those M1950s are dangerous...
Use a Co2 detector plus smoke ands fire!
Grinding a Bike at Autorama ------->
If I had that chick camping with me, I would not need the heater
Carbide Jones she wouldn't mind the heater tho
if anyone is interested i have this too.
Does anyone else think it's funny that of everyone available to demo this stove ... they picked a WOMAN to do so? I guess it's more believable that a woman was working with the stove. :)
It's a joke people, you know it's funny! Don't give me crap.