Thanks for posting this wonderful video. Great to see two projectors in use. I loved "changeovers" Sadly all this is coming to an end in the digital age. The saddest part of all is the ending of the role of the film projectionist. Digital will kill cinema in the end. There is little difference in looking at a digital movie in a cinema and looking at one on your big screen TV. Many thanks to all the great cinema projectionists - you will be missed!
Many thanks to the Tampa for producing this video! This is the first time I've seen a real-life "Toto." In April 1992, the Stanford Theatre in Palo Alto CA ran Casablanca with possibly the same newsreel, with FDR in Morocco. The ~1200 seat theatre had or was near a full house. The Stanford used the changeover system with carbon arc lamphouses at the time.
Rui, I'm sorry to say that Mike passed away in October of 2010. He was an amazing guy and LOVED working in theatres. Check him out in the Beverly Drive in clip on TH-cam. He was a great friend and is very much missed. Keep projecting Rui!
hi good to see cinematographic projector after a 16 years gap i was an cinematograph operator in indian about 16 years non stop for single screen cienam hall , i experienced to operate Brand PHOTOPONE , STRONG MOGHUL , AND BAUER PROJECTORS THANKS
Was that a nitrate print of the 1940s newsreel? @davidpcoppola: The keystoning is usually compensated for not with a special lens but rather by tipping the screen slightly upwards (which also helps reduce keystoning for audience members in the balcony).
Shoe Polish on the heads and tails of that print on the platter? Man I hated that crap. For some reason I always got stuck with those prints and they looked like hell.
I own 3 rca 400 16mm monsters and i am hoping to run 2 at a time somewhere in my county or close by my county - i own quite a few great movies ie: grease - wizard of oz - saturday night fever - "10" - modern problems (x2) and some cool old ones from the 50s plus like 300 episodes of various tv shows. I have the capability to run the 2 projectors (and 1 as a backup) into a mixer and out to my 6000 watts of powered speakers - cant wait to find a venue to keep this tradition alive :)
"Also, I always wondered why 35mm feeder reels run counterclockwise vs clockwise on other formats like 16mm?" Edison started this "S" wind claiming that emulsion out give a better focus, where in the EU and other countries, they used emulsion in wind and front feed as with the 16mm units. You can do the front load if you put a half twist from the takeup reel to the supply reel to get emulsion in when rewinding the film.
In England it’s more common to feed clockwise, but both ways can be found. Some projectors have to feed counter clockwise, mainly ones with fire traps made for running nitrate film. Pathéscope 9.5 mm film usually both feeds and takes up counter clockwise.
Nice video. I used to collect 16mm films and had an Eiki EX4000p 550 watt Xenon projector. That's one hell of a downward angle your shooting to. Does the lens compensate for the keystone? Also, I always wondered why 35mm feeder reels run counterclockwise vs clockwise on other formats like 16mm? Thanks, Dave.
Huge tilt...shooting over balconies? Would like a tour if possible, I come to Tampa often to service the IMAX dome at the MOSI. Last time I projected was Interstellar in 70mm IMAX for 3 weeks in CA. Thanks for posting! Send me a msg if a tour is possible.... 😀
That's quite a projection rake. Is the screen raked too? Single reels is indeed the only proper way to show a film (preferably with carbon arcs). From my point of view, all prints should be properly inspected between every screening, for which platters are not designed! Many thanks!
Platters damage valuable film prints, not by system itself, but by imposed lack of operator attention. So good part today, if you still run film, it's all classic and hard to replace stuff. So it must be run reel to reel by skilled personal.
I could never understand the reasons for installing a goofy platter system in a single screen theatre with an REAL skilled projectionist in the booth. Just doesn't make any sense. If changeovers are such a concern, then it would bemuch better to have 2 reel-to-reel projectors with 6000' capacity, cutting down the changeovers to only *1* for the average movie. It's no wonder that the studios don't allow their classic and archive film prints to be run via platters.
Thanks for posting this wonderful video. Great to see two projectors in use. I loved "changeovers" Sadly all this is coming to an end in the digital age. The saddest part of all is the ending of the role of the film projectionist. Digital will kill cinema in the end. There is little difference in looking at a digital movie in a cinema and looking at one on your big screen TV. Many thanks to all the great cinema projectionists - you will be missed!
Many thanks to the Tampa for producing this video! This is the first time I've seen a real-life "Toto." In April 1992, the Stanford Theatre in Palo Alto CA ran Casablanca with possibly the same newsreel, with FDR in Morocco. The ~1200 seat theatre had or was near a full house. The Stanford used the changeover system with carbon arc lamphouses at the time.
Thanks brother from India
That's one hell of a rake you have in that cinema!!
We always attached the leads to the lower reel before lacing up the projector to keep the leads from touching the floor....
Rui, I'm sorry to say that Mike passed away in October of 2010. He was an amazing guy and LOVED working in theatres. Check him out in the Beverly Drive in clip on TH-cam. He was a great friend and is very much missed. Keep projecting Rui!
Nice video.
Very informative documentary how gut's of Cinema works.Thank you.
hi
good to see cinematographic projector after a 16 years gap
i was an cinematograph operator in indian about 16 years non stop for single screen cienam hall , i experienced to operate Brand PHOTOPONE , STRONG MOGHUL , AND BAUER PROJECTORS
THANKS
Was that a nitrate print of the 1940s newsreel? @davidpcoppola: The keystoning is usually compensated for not with a special lens but rather by tipping the screen slightly upwards (which also helps reduce keystoning for audience members in the balcony).
Can't imagine, the projector has no capsuled reels and I can't imagine, that they give nitrate to projectionists.
Shoe Polish on the heads and tails of that print on the platter? Man I hated that crap. For some reason I always got stuck with those prints and they looked like hell.
I own 3 rca 400 16mm monsters and i am hoping to run 2 at a time somewhere in my county or close by my county - i own quite a few great movies ie: grease - wizard of oz - saturday night fever - "10" - modern problems (x2) and some cool old ones from the 50s plus like 300 episodes of various tv shows. I have the capability to run the 2 projectors (and 1 as a backup) into a mixer and out to my 6000 watts of powered speakers - cant wait to find a venue to keep this tradition alive :)
"Also, I always wondered why 35mm feeder reels run counterclockwise vs clockwise on other formats like 16mm?" Edison started this "S" wind claiming that emulsion out give a better focus, where in the EU and other countries, they used emulsion in wind and front feed as with the 16mm units. You can do the front load if you put a half twist from the takeup reel to the supply reel to get emulsion in when rewinding the film.
In England it’s more common to feed clockwise, but both ways can be found. Some projectors have to feed counter clockwise, mainly ones with fire traps made for running nitrate film. Pathéscope 9.5 mm film usually both feeds and takes up counter clockwise.
Nice video.
I used to collect 16mm films and had an Eiki EX4000p 550 watt Xenon projector.
That's one hell of a downward angle your shooting to. Does the lens compensate for the keystone?
Also, I always wondered why 35mm feeder reels run counterclockwise vs clockwise on other formats like 16mm?
Thanks, Dave.
Absolutely!
Huge tilt...shooting over balconies? Would like a tour if possible, I come to Tampa often to service the IMAX dome at the MOSI. Last time I projected was Interstellar in 70mm IMAX for 3 weeks in CA. Thanks for posting! Send me a msg if a tour is possible.... 😀
why was the projectors tilted that way
There projection booth is very high up in the theater. So it has to be pointed down like that so it points at the screen.
That's quite a projection rake. Is the screen raked too?
Single reels is indeed the only proper way to show a film (preferably with carbon arcs).
From my point of view, all prints should be properly inspected between every screening, for which platters are not designed!
Many thanks!
Awesome
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interesting!
this is real cinema,digital is for loosers.
Platters damage valuable film prints, not by system itself, but by imposed lack of operator attention. So good part today, if you still run film, it's all classic and hard to replace stuff. So it must be run reel to reel by skilled personal.
too bad most of the amcs have gone digital with the exception of a few that have acquired 70mm projectors for hateful eight
+Justin Fencsak That can't be true, because I saw The Force Awakens in 70mm IMAX.
+Marla Wallis ok
I could never understand the reasons for installing a goofy platter system in a single screen theatre with an REAL skilled projectionist in the booth. Just doesn't make any sense. If changeovers are such a concern, then it would bemuch better to have 2 reel-to-reel projectors with 6000' capacity, cutting down the changeovers to only *1* for the average movie. It's no wonder that the studios don't allow their classic and archive film prints to be run via platters.
One projector is cheaper
It saves time, not to rewind the movie, so the next show could done maybe 15 minutes after.
"Digital Cinema" is an oxymoron. Always will be.
Sadly the worst lamphouses ever made.
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