Only noob says that most of his opition can be interupted and side step😂😂😂 try doing it on drag you see how running 2 tracks sometime and how annoying while rising 1 4 is😂😂 @@tryingtochangemyways5074
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 Complaining about Hwo's kicks is like complaining about Steve throwing too many punches. It's just the way the character is animated because of his fighting style. It's not "spam", it's just how the character is animated. If anything, Tekken 8 by itself is a very spam heavy game anyway. If you're not jabbing and trying to take your turn back you die from pressure.
@@SHAAADOWWW794 K-Wiss may get alot of unnecessary hate, but he has arguably the better record and achivements. A set of first to 2 isnt enough to prove who is better. But props to Speedkicks for coming back with a blast
@@gibbybibby5031 They are not on the same level. Speedkick's mind games and overall hwoarang experience is on another level. Watch his FT7 against Arslan ash. He played out of his mind.
@gibbybibby5031 No disrespect (seriously) but you've got a lot of learning to do about the little things if you can't just SEE the difference. The difference in ability between these two is so large. Tekken player power scaling reminds me of Solo Leveling. Two players can be S rank but the difference in ability can be greater than an E Rank and S Rank. The skill ceiling is literally unlimited and what I love so much about Tekken.
@@whydoyoukeeptalking yeah but trying to spam throws at this lvl lol, thats 100% insecurity gaming. as we all saw it ( aka running straight to opponent and trying a grab O_O like ? ! )
@floydfubu dang you call that spamming throws? Wild. Throws are good ive seen them work at high level too. The real problem was K wiss did it on a hwoarang master. Still he showed why he's one of the best too.
@@whydoyoukeeptalking spamming throws as I Said. Exactly unnucessary AT this level. And especially when it doesnt work the 3-4first Times. Rewatch again the video, you dont seem to recognize the scruby attempts from Kwiss to avoid his own beating vs hwoarang lol. Pure facts sorry. And i repeat it : throws attempts from nowhere lol, like he didnt want to eat his own medicine and endure the pressure 🙃😭😭😭😭 Édit : 1:03 1:07 1:19 AT the start lol of the round ....pretty obvious as he just tries to run and grab...💀💀💀 1:29 his first answer to the opening he offered lol 1:54 lol 1:56 hehehehe 2:10 speedkicks has a hwoarang demencia ...3 throws attempts in the air...😭💀😩, probably trying to reach the same ratio of Kwiss 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 4:04 throw from speed to stop Kwiss from panicking 👍🏾 4:16 a run toward + throws attempt... Failed of course since speed didnt Mash😭 ofc not like 4:45 rush toward speed + throw attempt... *Sigh* 4:55 wow the first throw to work, yeah gratz 👍🏾💀💀💀 ( Speed tried to use his power crush and got cancelled ) 5:12 here WE go again 🥸🙃 5:22 ...... 💀💀💀 7:30 he tried to stop the pressure but " oh noooooo WE know he didnt suceed" 7:50 oh again 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹 And After every failed attempt he IS open like a window🥹 Aka get counter hit or just eating the speedkicks answer Yeah as you Said W.I.L.D to think Hwo is King or at least / Lee/law/Xiaoyu/ or others characters who can combo out of a throw W.I.L.D lol
@floydfubu Grab checking is literally a tekken strat since forever. If it doesn't work it can still be a way to stop pressure, switch sides away from a wall, stop power crushes ect. ( I've played since 3 and WAS a tournament player). It's just silly to hate on a player who constantly makes top and act as if he doesn't know what he's doing. If yer a hater just admit it. If you aren't it was obviously a GG on both sides.
K-wiss was mashing alot but He has great defensive reads but when you play great players, you have to play more reactive sometimes. Play the clock, take what you can get sometimes and then chill. He had great uses of the power crush to slow speedkicks down but he became too predictable with his grabs and speed kicks used those duckable highs against him. Speedkicks also uses alot of jabs with 1,1,3 he could duck under the first two hits to build from there. Play the player and not the character sometimes, learn their habits and use them against him. That flamingo shimmy was cold 🥶 Both played great for sure!
@@michaeldominy5526 you def dont watch much tekken outside of the majors and probably havent been following the game for a long time if you think speedkicks is the best Hwo. player in the world. Theres Korean players who would body him. Even Yeonarang would body him.
This is what the Tekken 8 dev team was envisioning when designing the game to be as aggressive as possible. Nonstop relentless attacking from both sides, and using every trick in the book to kill their opponent. Big ups to both players
I was honestly flabbergasted at how little was blocked lmao. They were just trying to SSR to get advantage back and kept getting clipped. I wonder if it's because they just don't want to deal with Hwo's pressure or they actually play like this
@@azureflow9972its just for this exclusive matchup. You dont block hwoarang he will kill you with plus frames on flamingo. Thats why they either interrupt or fake/commit the armor move
Everybody complaining about spoilers must not watch much K-Wiss lmaoooo I love em but we all know his tendencies. A lot better online. LAN is a different animal
Hmmm....as a Hwo main I can say this... K-wiss had some gorgeous combos. Speedkicks had some amazing grabbreaks Both had great movement. But Speed optimized on damage with the rage art. Gotta utilize all the features the game has to offer. But none the less...top tier battle. Some good ass Tekken lol ...they still need to face me tho 🥸
I didnt even know this was a debate😂 I dont care for the arrogance of either one of these, but at least Speeds is more understandable. He is an actual genius and it&his talent shows when his mental game on point. He is the best Hwo in the world when he's on point. Kwiss has good MU knowledge but he relies on button tekken. His movement has gotten way better over the years but he cannot play neutral or defense anywhere near the level of Speed. Last thing. Speed can be a real jerk at times (hes a know it all type) but is still extremely helpful with his coaching analysis and drills. Kwiss is just an Ahole in general. Tl,dr there should have never been a comparison in the first place for these two!
I'm sorry he is not the best hworang.. he is pretty good... no cap. He dropped to many combo.. he not good at converting... and clear don't know mirror match that well... but overall pretty
Lmfao! Imagine saying best and Hworang in the same sentence. There's a reason why these dudes are miles behind the greatest players out their. Their little minds are just stuck on the mashing and power crushing game. People really lowered the bar for T8. SMH
Speeds throw breaks were fucking insane, the throw animation stops so fast. What incredible reactions
As a Hworang main this is the fight I been waiting for since Tekken 7 😎🥂
🥂
I'll take this Hwoarang mirror match all day everyday than every fcking time im tired of watching boring Dragunov mirror match
I dont like spamming hworang players kick kick kick kick kick..I rather watch 4 dragons in top 8 then one hworang
Only noob says that most of his opition can be interupted and side step😂😂😂 try doing it on drag you see how running 2 tracks sometime and how annoying while rising 1 4 is😂😂 @@tryingtochangemyways5074
They need to play more matches on stream. Add king Jae, majin , and pokchop and we got a nice video!!!!
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 Complaining about Hwo's kicks is like complaining about Steve throwing too many punches. It's just the way the character is animated because of his fighting style.
It's not "spam", it's just how the character is animated. If anything, Tekken 8 by itself is a very spam heavy game anyway. If you're not jabbing and trying to take your turn back you die from pressure.
@@Ocean5ix Steve doesn't have the single button variety or kicks how Hwo has hands. I get what you mean but that doesn't negate what was said
Speedkick is so underrated man. Bro is a genius with hwo.
Thanks for the video but please avoid posting spoilers as titles next time. It’s take away the suspense when you know whos going to win.
i mean its vs k-wiss , we knew who win already xD
@@SHAAADOWWW794 i mean, you're kinda right 😂
@@SHAAADOWWW794 K-Wiss may get alot of unnecessary hate, but he has arguably the better record and achivements. A set of first to 2 isnt enough to prove who is better. But props to Speedkicks for coming back with a blast
@@genexis_ speed has better placements in harder tekkens at harder tournaments vs harder opponents
@@Jakc_Tk rofllllll sureeeeeee he does.
There’s levels to this game. Speed kicks us on a different plane
That’s so bs. I can’t stand both of these guys but they are on the same level. It just comes down to who has the better day.
@@gibbybibby5031 They are not on the same level. Speedkick's mind games and overall hwoarang experience is on another level. Watch his FT7 against Arslan ash. He played out of his mind.
@gibbybibby5031 No disrespect (seriously) but you've got a lot of learning to do about the little things if you can't just SEE the difference. The difference in ability between these two is so large.
Tekken player power scaling reminds me of Solo Leveling. Two players can be S rank but the difference in ability can be greater than an E Rank and S Rank. The skill ceiling is literally unlimited and what I love so much about Tekken.
@@FerventFourEyes don’t Tell i have learning to do and stop glazing speedkicks. Y’all Americans are biased af.
@@gibbybibby5031 why cant you stand both of them tho? you hate on them for what?
Speedkicks is a old school player man. That dude knows hyworang!!
Speedkicks ending it off with a NoRoundBrown, damn. Legends gonna Legend 🤷🏾♂️🔥🔥
Kwiss playing like a king player
Hwoarang does have a great grapple game fr.
@@whydoyoukeeptalking yeah but trying to spam throws at this lvl lol, thats 100% insecurity gaming. as we all saw it ( aka running straight to opponent and trying a grab O_O like ? ! )
@floydfubu dang you call that spamming throws? Wild. Throws are good ive seen them work at high level too. The real problem was K wiss did it on a hwoarang master. Still he showed why he's one of the best too.
@@whydoyoukeeptalking spamming throws as I Said. Exactly unnucessary AT this level. And especially when it doesnt work the 3-4first Times. Rewatch again the video, you dont seem to recognize the scruby attempts from Kwiss to avoid his own beating vs hwoarang lol. Pure facts sorry.
And i repeat it : throws attempts from nowhere lol, like he didnt want to eat his own medicine and endure the pressure 🙃😭😭😭😭
Édit : 1:03
1:07
1:19 AT the start lol of the round ....pretty obvious as he just tries to run and grab...💀💀💀
1:29 his first answer to the opening he offered lol
1:54 lol
1:56 hehehehe
2:10 speedkicks has a hwoarang demencia ...3 throws attempts in the air...😭💀😩, probably trying to reach the same ratio of Kwiss 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4:04 throw from speed to stop Kwiss from panicking 👍🏾
4:16 a run toward + throws attempt... Failed of course since speed didnt Mash😭 ofc not like
4:45 rush toward speed + throw attempt... *Sigh*
4:55 wow the first throw to work, yeah gratz 👍🏾💀💀💀
( Speed tried to use his power crush and got cancelled )
5:12 here WE go again 🥸🙃
5:22 ...... 💀💀💀
7:30 he tried to stop the pressure but " oh noooooo WE know he didnt suceed"
7:50 oh again 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
And After every failed attempt he IS open like a window🥹 Aka get counter hit or just eating the speedkicks answer
Yeah as you Said
W.I.L.D to think Hwo is King or at least / Lee/law/Xiaoyu/ or others characters who can combo out of a throw
W.I.L.D lol
@floydfubu Grab checking is literally a tekken strat since forever. If it doesn't work it can still be a way to stop pressure, switch sides away from a wall, stop power crushes ect. ( I've played since 3 and WAS a tournament player).
It's just silly to hate on a player who constantly makes top and act as if he doesn't know what he's doing. If yer a hater just admit it. If you aren't it was obviously a GG on both sides.
Old Gods and the new Gods...
Perfect response.
Delete tekken if you call k wiss god
@@Asdfgdwfbjyragebait use to be believable
Damn bro two of the best black Hwoarang players one from England and the other from America is this a TV show this is insanely awesome
Two of the best Hwoarang players period... black or no
why their skin colour deserves to be mentioned? If you think its fun your sence of humor is rather poor
@@ACE-dw6ol I’m black it’s amazing to see this
Im also black and I think this fight is more interesting because their black.
@@Dallas4090 yessssssss
Maybe if kwiss tried throwing a 1000 more times he would have miraculously won
Kwiss is a trash player period, he relies on cheap tricks. When you look up mid in the dictionary kwiss shows up
Please, don't put spoilers in the titles
Based comment.
this was a good fight, the tekken earth was shaking
All these people saying not to put spoilers in the title shu shu, i clicked on the vid because my boy speedkicks wins
Excellent!
4:49 😳
THE FUCKING HWOARANG TITANS GOING AT IT
I wonder how good speedkicks will do against yeonarang! Thats a hwoarang duel i wanna c
Yeonrang has him beat i think
@@au10666 I think the same unless the set is longer than 10
K-wiss was mashing alot but He has great defensive reads but when you play great players, you have to play more reactive sometimes. Play the clock, take what you can get sometimes and then chill. He had great uses of the power crush to slow speedkicks down but he became too predictable with his grabs and speed kicks used those duckable highs against him. Speedkicks also uses alot of jabs with 1,1,3 he could duck under the first two hits to build from there. Play the player and not the character sometimes, learn their habits and use them against him. That flamingo shimmy was cold 🥶 Both played great for sure!
Well
Well put
you should go to the next tourney
@@supremeblackkai1229 i actually do go to tournaments and have hosted some also 😂 havent been to evo yet tho would like to do one eventually tho
@mibbzx1493 yeah you should go to Evo next time and punish the mistakes of the players your mentioning. That'd be pretty cool
This was like anime friend vs friend
Speed kicks the best hwaorang in the world.
he def not
@@AlexPereirasLeftFootyes he is
@@michaeldominy5526 you def dont watch much tekken outside of the majors and probably havent been following the game for a long time if you think speedkicks is the best Hwo. player in the world. Theres Korean players who would body him. Even Yeonarang would body him.
@@AlexPereirasLeftFoot absolutely not 😂 show me proof. Clown 🤡 😂
No olvidar al mejor hwo de Sudamérica "Roynichi" que ya le ganó en Tekken 7 a speedkick .
Speedkicks placed 9th evo 2024. Good seeing him back even for a little bit
He shows Hwoarang potential
This is what the Tekken 8 dev team was envisioning when designing the game to be as aggressive as possible. Nonstop relentless attacking from both sides, and using every trick in the book to kill their opponent. Big ups to both players
7:32 was great offense
I love the gameplay but this is how you know horwrang players barely block because every single round there was jabs thrown out without hesitation
l m a o
Hwo players out here like "I ain't pay $70 to block"
I was honestly flabbergasted at how little was blocked lmao. They were just trying to SSR to get advantage back and kept getting clipped.
I wonder if it's because they just don't want to deal with Hwo's pressure or they actually play like this
@@azureflow9972 I feel like they play like this in general because the game is meant to be played aggressively
@@azureflow9972its just for this exclusive matchup. You dont block hwoarang he will kill you with plus frames on flamingo. Thats why they either interrupt or fake/commit the armor move
K wiss gotta chill off relying on throws
와 에보에서 화랑 미러전이라니 웅장해진다
Brooo speedkick is a player on it doing a mirror match is naddaa
Even kwiss has trouble fighting hwos lmao
I was wondering why he needed coaching if he was playing against his main
Yo i keep telling them dont sleep on SpeedKicks
K-wiss in real life is a jerk, im glad speedkicks won
Seems like a pretty cool dude to me
you think speedkicks is a good and humble person ??? lmao
@@foxsteve9937I was just about to say both of these guys are pretty known for being snobbish 😂
You don't know him in real life
Dayum bro bro got cooked like sum fish n chips bro bro frfr bro!!!
KWiss shows why he is the most mid pro hworang
What's with the hate?k wiss put a put a good fight
😂
@@tyresesuri7431 He's mid for real, only good online with his McDonald's connection.
@@tyresesuri7431bro grabs too much, he kinda sucks
@@topkid868ok so beat him then
He beat edge?
Next time you should title it as….. Who Will Win………….
Don’t watch the video then.
@@michaeldominy5526 😞 are you mad that I expressed my opinion on a great title for the future?.?.?..?.? Grumpy5526….. 😚
@@michaeldominy5526 😂 😂, in my cry baby voice…. Don’t watch the video then 😢
k-wiss just spamming powercrush like all online player
I think they are evenly matched , but swiss killed his self by continuously tryna throw/grab
Everybody complaining about spoilers must not watch much K-Wiss lmaoooo I love em but we all know his tendencies. A lot better online. LAN is a different animal
I mean don’t down play his he still got 13th place
i would say Edge or Yeonarang.
In my opinion, it will be EDGE.
For being a trickster it would be basuka or bts.
Hmmm....as a Hwo main I can say this...
K-wiss had some gorgeous combos.
Speedkicks had some amazing grabbreaks
Both had great movement. But Speed optimized on damage with the rage art. Gotta utilize all the features the game has to offer. But none the less...top tier battle. Some good ass Tekken lol
...they still need to face me tho 🥸
Hworang is the most Americanized Korean ever. Nothing about him is Korean
as much as i hate hwoarang, these 2 are pretty good and entertaining to watch
He nice
GGs
you mean EDGE yea hes the best
Edge is better than these two hwos. There are lots of hwos just like k-wiss in Asia, but they don't have money to go to the tournament in America.
Rest and Maddogjin should also be in conversation for best S. Korean Hwo
Speedkick didn’t do the mirror match against Rest
or Edge, or Yaonarag...
He should have, i believe he would have won
K WISS still so cute❤
So many comments not liking how kwiss lost lols hahaha😂
Yessirrr dislike how kwiss always clapping everyone’s cheeks and cocky about it
Please don't spoiled the title
Edge quit the chat
why is the fgc still in the mask game!? what is this
K-Wiss showed why he is so overrated 🤣
Only one black hwoarang rules
Then abandoned Hwoarang against JDCR and got his ass kicked.
I didnt even know this was a debate😂
I dont care for the arrogance of either one of these, but at least Speeds is more understandable. He is an actual genius and it&his talent shows when his mental game on point.
He is the best Hwo in the world when he's on point.
Kwiss has good MU knowledge but he relies on button tekken. His movement has gotten way better over the years but he cannot play neutral or defense anywhere near the level of Speed.
Last thing. Speed can be a real jerk at times (hes a know it all type) but is still extremely helpful with his coaching analysis and drills.
Kwiss is just an Ahole in general.
Tl,dr there should have never been a comparison in the first place for these two!
I'm sorry he is not the best hworang.. he is pretty good... no cap. He dropped to many combo.. he not good at
converting... and clear don't know mirror match that well... but overall pretty
BTS JIN is the best .
Change the title Apple Jack
he's not cause he doesn't even use the character
I’m not a fan of K-Wiss but I must say this is probably his best performance in a while. He should’ve won this match
Speedkicks doesnt win shit, so much for a genius 😂
I hate this character so much , just his whole style , how he fight’s everything about him
Yea cause he lays you out lol
This man bald😂😂
I absolutely hate seeing K-wiss lose.
It's the absolute opposite for me.
That guy salty
Not if is for speedkicks.
Kkk
And i love seeing K -wiss lose
I like Speedkicks more
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Nah Yeorang has him beat
american can easily backstabbed people based by their country n being toxic to them but they can still lose and didn't make it to top 6 too 😂
Gayoarang
Hoawrang mirror and still hes lame
Both are meshing buttons. Don't know what is going on screen.
Lmfao! Imagine saying best and Hworang in the same sentence. There's a reason why these dudes are miles behind the greatest players out their. Their little minds are just stuck on the mashing and power crushing game. People really lowered the bar for T8. SMH