8700g is good but for the price you have to pass.... we all know about intel b580 and the b770/780 are going to be even better... 7500f or 5600 for am4. if you cant afford or find a b580, just get a rx 580 for now.. do not pay 350 for intel b580 right now, you can find better amd cards for cheaper, and dang sur used
Well, you need to have quality DDR5 and plenty of it to achieve this result with 780M. Also 8700G is not exactly cheap. So nope, it is not a replacement as yet.
No to jeszcze nic co mogą mówić posiadacze RX5000 to karty z 2019 Na przykład RX5700 to karta 70% wydajniejsza od Rx580 i spokojnie daje radę na średnich z FSR
Impressive! Both are pretty similar for most games. There’s something I’m wondering.. when 780m is in use, is the total energy consumption gpu + cpu or that average let’s say ~90W is already the total for both?
@@tytp001 its probably close or maybe a bit lower , were talking about high frequency ddr5 and the fps is more less the same , so the power consumption shouldnt be too big of a gap
Prevbiously my Ryzen 5-1600AF Nvidia gtx 1650 ddr6 card combo allowed me FHD low-medium setting playing in cyberpunk. Now my 8700g with integraated graphics (870M) runs it smoothly at fhd medium. Outstanding
@@calorlatino5342 Absolutely. The igpu is very strong. I set my dual channel ram (ddr5 -7000) to 6400mhz, this is stable under gaming. And it works like a charm. I can't believe that I can gaming in full hd without a separate graphic card, but I can. Baldur's Gate 3 (fhd-high), Cyberpunk 2077 (fhd-medium) goes without any problem.
I tested gtx 1650 on pcie 3.0 @ x4 mode in bios but it does not stutter in FC4 then why my 6500xt 8gb stutters even with 24.5.1 to 24.12.1 in FC4 only ? Because of 64 bit bus versus 128 bit on 1650 ?
@@drew2626 4090 is 4.0x16 and is feeding 3.0x16, meaning that it gets half of what it's supposed to receive. However, a 4090, as far as I know, doesn't use the full bandwidth at all times so it's usable on PCIe3. On the other hand, the 6500XT is 4.0x4 and so is feeding 3.0x4 so it's only receiving half of what it should get. HOWEVER the 6500XT uses everything in those 4 lanes of PCIe so performance is impacted quite a fair bit, especially in the stability of the framerates (1%low, 0.1%low)
Сижу на райзен 3800x, 32 гигабайт оперативной памяти и rx 6800. Юзаю LM studio. Так вот, модели ии загружаю и они упераются в количество видеопамяти моей видеокарты. Даже если бы у меня была 3900 или 4090 то это всего 24 гигабайта видеопамяти. Сейчас себе заказал этот проц и 64 гигабайта оперативы и подозреваю, что она буде полностью использована ии. Если это так ,то в будущем увеличу оперативку до 250гигабайт. И какая видюха на такое способна? Пересмотрел практически все обзоры на этот проц и все сравнивают встройку этого проца с дискретными видеокартами😂. Это глупо. Этот проц. идеален для исскуственного интелекта на сегодня!
My 5700g vega 8 @ 2500mhz with 4733mhz overclocked ram and tightened timings does about 50-55fps in black myth vukong benchmark. How can the 780m perform this poorly? You need at least 8200mhz ddr5 ram to really push it imho
El cuello de botella seria brutal, lo mejor que le puedes poner a ese procesador es la rx580 y si quieres usar esa rx6600xt mejor actualiza a un r5 5600
@@cirodpc vas a poder jugar la mayoria de juegos a 1080p 50 a 70 fps depende del juego, pero si le pusieras un ryzen 5 5600 jugaras todo a 1080p a 80 o 90 fps ya que tu procesador esta limitando a tu gráfica mi recomendación actualizar tu procesador en cuanto puedas
Integrated graphics came a long way, this reminded me of youtube flooded with 1060 vs 580 videos back then, great work!
Nice to see you here Santiago
Olá, Santiago. Perdido por aqui??? Abraço amigo.
8700g is good but for the price you have to pass....
we all know about intel b580 and the b770/780 are going to be even better...
7500f or 5600 for am4.
if you cant afford or find a b580, just get a rx 580 for now.. do not pay 350 for intel b580 right now, you can find better amd cards for cheaper, and dang sur used
Well, you need to have quality DDR5 and plenty of it to achieve this result with 780M. Also 8700G is not exactly cheap. So nope, it is not a replacement as yet.
Yep. Ryzen 7 8700G is priced so badly that it make no sense to buy one. Adding the price of high-end DDR5 makes it even worse.
What's the ram speed needed for it?
@@ryan2casey764 Dual channel DDR5, fastest you could afford.
@@eternalwingspro4454 8600G is more affordable, but it is around 10% slower (760M) . There is also 8500G but it is around 40% slower (740M)
@@ryan2casey764 6000 mts
this is the future. no more dedicated gpu needed
Still pissed me off Indy not working on 580 when the gpu actually capable of running it without ray tracing bs
No to jeszcze nic co mogą mówić posiadacze RX5000 to karty z 2019
Na przykład RX5700 to karta 70% wydajniejsza od Rx580 i spokojnie daje radę na średnich z FSR
it might be playable under linux. someone got it to work on their vega 64 using rt emulation.
Impressive! Both are pretty similar for most games. There’s something I’m wondering.. when 780m is in use, is the total energy consumption gpu + cpu or that average let’s say ~90W is already the total for both?
Total 90 gpu+cpu usage
@@harshrawat7685 wait..so a APU does the same consumption than GPU+ procesor?
@@tytp001 its probably close or maybe a bit lower , were talking about high frequency ddr5 and the fps is more less the same , so the power consumption shouldnt be too big of a gap
There's no modern GPU using same watt as IGP from APU.
Even RTX 3050 6GB from Nvidia using 75 watt meanwhile this 780M only use 35 watt
I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen APU will rival my 1660s performance, tech always improving, it's kinda scary but also exciting
Radeon 890m on ryzen 9 ai can get nearly same performance as rtx 3050 at 65w
Comparing similar video is crazy
I needed this
Prevbiously my Ryzen 5-1600AF Nvidia gtx 1650 ddr6 card combo allowed me FHD low-medium setting playing in cyberpunk. Now my 8700g with integraated graphics (870M) runs it smoothly at fhd medium. Outstanding
estoy por armarme mi pc con el procesador 8700G, lo recomiendas?
@@calorlatino5342 Absolutely. The igpu is very strong. I set my dual channel ram (ddr5 -7000) to 6400mhz, this is stable under gaming. And it works like a charm. I can't believe that I can gaming in full hd without a separate graphic card, but I can. Baldur's Gate 3 (fhd-high), Cyberpunk 2077 (fhd-medium) goes without any problem.
Rx 580 cut on a Pci bus up to 8 lines, it would be better to put it with a conditional 7500f
Bro, try the new Wargaming game called "Steel Hunter" with 5600G
Good comparison, but is r5 8700g stutters in games ???❤❤❤
indiana jones kill RX580
R.I.P
no driver support ~
im using rx 580
🙂
more ryzen 7 8700G pls
I tested gtx 1650 on pcie 3.0 @ x4 mode in bios but it does not stutter in FC4 then why my 6500xt 8gb stutters even with 24.5.1 to 24.12.1 in FC4 only ? Because of 64 bit bus versus 128 bit on 1650 ?
Amd problem. Nvidia 👍
6500xt is PCIe4, so there's a huge bottleneck because of that
@YetAnotherSADXFan how so PCIE 3.0 is like 10FPS maximum difference on a 4090
@@drew2626 4090 is 4.0x16 and is feeding 3.0x16, meaning that it gets half of what it's supposed to receive. However, a 4090, as far as I know, doesn't use the full bandwidth at all times so it's usable on PCIe3.
On the other hand, the 6500XT is 4.0x4 and so is feeding 3.0x4 so it's only receiving half of what it should get. HOWEVER the 6500XT uses everything in those 4 lanes of PCIe so performance is impacted quite a fair bit, especially in the stability of the framerates (1%low, 0.1%low)
@ 😳 4.0x4 😭
but build 8700g is more expensive compared buying AM4 5600x with rx580...😢
Crazy 😧
pero en el 8700G puedes activar FSR y los fps se disparan o no ?
what about with FSR? sadly these look like they hardly do the job
but the pciexpress in 8700g is only 8X and the rx580 need x16.
Сижу на райзен 3800x, 32 гигабайт оперативной памяти и rx 6800. Юзаю LM studio. Так вот, модели ии загружаю и они упераются в количество видеопамяти моей видеокарты. Даже если бы у меня была 3900 или 4090 то это всего 24 гигабайта видеопамяти. Сейчас себе заказал этот проц и 64 гигабайта оперативы и подозреваю, что она буде полностью использована ии. Если это так ,то в будущем увеличу оперативку до 250гигабайт. И какая видюха на такое способна? Пересмотрел практически все обзоры на этот проц и все сравнивают встройку этого проца с дискретными видеокартами😂. Это глупо. Этот проц. идеален для исскуственного интелекта на сегодня!
My 5700g vega 8 @ 2500mhz with 4733mhz overclocked ram and tightened timings does about 50-55fps in black myth vukong benchmark. How can the 780m perform this poorly? You need at least 8200mhz ddr5 ram to really push it imho
From what I’ve seen anything over 6400MT is overkill
Because he using 6000mhz ram. APU always need faster RAM
Wait, why your CPU is clocked lower? 5700G can hit 4.4ghz
@@arx117 2500mhz Is the iGPU clock, CPU cores are, with PBO, at 4,9ghz
Test i3 8100 with uhd Graphics 630
Why indian Jones not working on rx 580 ?
indiana jones requires gpu that supports Ray tracing. RX580 doesn't have ray tracing
Ray Tracing
Indiana Jones need real tracing technology to ran it, RX480 is a card from 2016, not even Nvidia got real tracing back then
this game killed rx580
Bro I have msi B450M-A PRO MAX II if I want to chang my cpu like Ryzen5 5500 I have to update bios latest or old update or I don't need to update ❤
what bios u have now
You have to update your bios, its very easy
podés hacer uno con ryzen 3 3200g y rx 6600 xt porfa
El cuello de botella seria brutal, lo mejor que le puedes poner a ese procesador es la rx580 y si quieres usar esa rx6600xt mejor actualiza a un r5 5600
@rucoystudiosyt es q ya la compré y quiero ver cómo va. Todavía no la puse xq no tengo la fuente
@@cirodpc vas a poder jugar la mayoria de juegos a 1080p 50 a 70 fps depende del juego, pero si le pusieras un ryzen 5 5600 jugaras todo a 1080p a 80 o 90 fps ya que tu procesador esta limitando a tu gráfica mi recomendación actualizar tu procesador en cuanto puedas
Neat
Please test Path of Exile 2 on Athlon 3000G with 16gb RAM
Good comparison, but is r5 8700g stutters in games ???❤❤❤