The cows don’t save us money, but knowing where our fresh milk comes from and getting to enjoy all the fresh products (and unlimited butter😋) is totally worth it! 😄
@@yaima0901 It’s scary getting into. But there are always ways to cut costs like they mentioned in the video. If you want the cow bad enough, you can do it! We started out with a tiny shed with tarps and wonky wood. And an old, old delaval milk machine given to us by a great grandfather that used to be a dairy farmer. But hand milking is an option, and we’ve used EZ milkers for goats, (have heard their bigger models can work for cows.) Machines are the most efficient. But If in a pinch, you can make other techniques work. We were getting down to hand-milking our brown Swiss cow out in 20 mins, much more practice (and muscle) and we might have gotten it closer to 10 minutes. It’s a lot of work and commitment. But it’s worth it. And if you have kiddos, it’s a great experience for them, and great to help encourage a work ethic in them.
How do the cows get pregnant? Do you check the status via non-consensual invasion? Do the calves get to live with mom? Do they get moms milk? When do you sell the extra calfs?
The time element needs to be considered too. The milk doesn't just leap into your refrigerator as the cow walks by the kitchen window, then miraculously turn itself into cheese, butter, etc. as you sleep. I would like to see you do a video on the man-hours required to get the product table ready. From building/repairing fence, working on all the infrastructure required to keep a cow, watering,feeding, cleaning milking equipment, hauling manure, finding hay to buy or baling it yourself, to the actual milking and straining the milk , separating the cream, etc. I love your video, thank you for the time you took to go through it all.
@@GinHindew110 ,I guess it depends on the mind set, and the why behind getting a cow. I have 2 very sweet Jerseys, and they are seldom annoying, plus it's a joy to receive the fresh milk and see our Mama, mother her calf.
Very true. So if you want to make a strictly financial comparison, you could spend all that time working an extra job and if you compare that, you end up much better, financially, working extra and then just buying dairy.
This is such a great example of why it’s so important to crunch your own numbers and know what makes it “worth it” for you. Here in NC, I purchase 3 gallons of milk per week plus several pounds of cheese for my family of 8, and easily spend $25+. And that’s not even raw dairy products, to jump to raw products, we would need to 1) drive 45 minutes away and 2) start spending closer to $40 per week. So all that to say, the family milk cow is my next homestead goal! It’ll be worth it when the time comes.
And I really appreciated coming into it as more hobby minded. That way, any unexpected expenses (and there will always be those), don’t feel quite so discouraging.
@@utubedude2842 I've had both, and the necessary infrastructure is SO different. Our cows we only need one string of hotwire to keep them from escaping. The goats we had to have a 5ft welded wire fence to keep them from escaping (and they still escaped. OFTEN.) 🤷🏻♀️
Great video. Milk cost alone is just the tip of the iceberg too, especially with a jersey or other high milk fat breed, you can make a ton of butter that can take the place of most cooking fats, along with just putting on your toast. Then there's manure that can help grow a healthy vegetable garden, you could calf-share and raise the calf for meat, there's so much more to owning a dairy cow than just milk. Hell, might even save you money on gas for your lawn mower.
We always raise a couple of pigs with the extra milk . Fed the pigs sowerd wheat and milk. Enjoyed spraying milk in the barn cats face! They liked it too. Angus/ Jersey
My family is huge and we go through 3-7 gallons of milk a week, easily a qt of sour cream (or more), 2-3 sticks of butter, And about a half pound of cheese, depending. Coffee creamer lasts 3-4 weeks. With rising costs, and how high they already are for our area, we easily spend $40-$70 a week on dairy
A cow can produce up to 10 gallons per day.....and your only using 3-7 gallons per week ? Average cow might produce 50 gallons per week. What becomes of the remaining milk ? A great way to get rid of it....buy a few hogs......slop them three times per day.........a cheap feed for hogs !
When I was a kid in the 70's, we had one Holstein milk cow. We also had a small herd of beef cows and an Angus bull. We cut our own hay and had a few acres in corn. Also raised a few hogs, meat chickens and egg layers plus a big garden. It was a typical small family farm in the Midwest. But, there was no hay or feed being purchased. Just minerals. The cow was milked by hand into a simple bucket. She was bred to our Angus bull and her calf went into our freezer. I don't remember a vet ever being on the farm. And, her extra milk saved an orphaned calf once in awhile. And, you left out the joy of homemade ice cream on a hot summer day.
We had a Holstein/ Angus cross when I was a kid. We had all the milk we wanted and sold the rest for a $1 per gallon. Eggs for 50 cents a dozen. So Mom didn't have to work. Great information.
We had two in the 70's, and I plan to get two again, though I don't need much milk if not for cheese. And I want two of a rare old breed, to make certain, their calfs won't be killed for meat but used for breeding. But my first try on farming will be six chickens again, we had 25 once, but those laid too many eggs for us. The neighbour said, her's don't pay, since she has rare old breeds that don't lay that many eggs, and paid more to vaccinate her chickens than their eggs are worth.
You know the old saying "Back in my day...." Well, years ago it was very profitable to have at least one dairy cow. I've been retired for awhile now (I'm pretty old)) so it was very interesting to hear your notes and quotes. Thanks for all your hard work. God bless every farmer everywhere, and every retired farmer too! ;) 👋🐂
We have 5 kids and we buy LOTS of dairy. Raw, grass fed dairy. We easily spend $65/wk on just dairy. Now, we'd have to learn to make lots of cheeses. We already know how to skim cream & make butter, ice cream, créme frâiche, mozzarella, sour cream, buttermilk, etc. I really think we'd end up saving lots of money and getting even better quality.
I live in Florida and people actually buy cows to save on landscaping costs. If you have a cow eating year round, you save up to $100 a week on mowing costs or a few hours a week if you mow yourself. We don’t have a real winter here either, so grass grows crazy year round.
Most little girls want a pony when they are younger but I always wanted a cow lol. This year I will be purchasing land for my first homestead and I can’t wait to get a cow.
cow manure, by 40 lb bag, goes for around $4.00 ($1/10lb) so you can get $10/day or $70/week selling the manure/compost to local growers....many people would love organic composted manure to add to their back yard gardens. if you compost it with worms you can also sell the worms and/or use the worms to feed chickens/fish on your farm
True. I think cows pee would also make profit. There are pharmaceutical companies that keep mares for estrogen in their pee. So why not sell them cow's pee it is also full of estrogen
Funny coming across your channel this evening. I just bought a 4 month old Jersey heifer. Looking to get another heifer in the next few weeks/months. I already raise my own beef (not cheaper but so much better). I raise my chicken/turkeys for meat and I have my layers for eggs. I have gotten into making my own butter, cheeses, and having fresh milk on hand. I pay $8 a gallon and I drive over a hour one way. Not saving anything but I know what is in my food! That is the important part for me. No chemicals, no antibiotics, or fillers added. Just wish I could have been doing this when my kids were all younger. Thank you for all your information.
This is super interesting! I am from Canada, so our cost of dairy is quote a bit more especially compared with prices in Montana… I would say for 3 gallons milk, a couple pounds of butter, cream for coffee and a 700gr block of cheddar or mozzarella per week our family would spend upwards of $50 per week on dairy. But the price of a jersey is similar. Vet bills are more, as a cow always has trouble after hours in our experience. So minimum $150 to get them out here. Plus meds for an average minimum of $300. AI is roughly about the same cost. I am not sure what grain costs, but hay is more certainly. Then factor in the value of our dollar…. Considering that raw milk sales are illegal in Canada though, to have our own raw milk, where we know what is being fed to the cow, and the conditions it enjoys life in, having a family milk cow is priceless. ❤
I'm a bit late to the party but I think something that isn't mentioned here that may sway things to a more favorable position is the quality of the product you get. I bet the milk, cheese, and butter you get yourself tastes so much better than anything a grocery store can get. There's a reason high quality restaurants source from local farms NOT local grocery stores.
Surprisingly, not so much. Raw milk does to me taste better, and my kids but the local farms also supply land o lakes, rothstien(sp?) And some others. I can say I see these cows daily 6+ local farms and most of them free range and just hang out, happy and friendly cows. Cost is the main reason to direct from farm plus shelf stable duration. I will say only worked at one nice place and we just ordered milk bulk in bags from hood.
I’m using my husbands account please ignore the name lol but wow this is by far the best video out there. I have been doing my research and this is just amazing information. I did my weekly dairy budget and I don’t think my family of four is normal my one year old alone drinks almost a gallon a day we buy eat 4 gallons a week of milk not counting yogurt, cream cheese, cheese of all forms, butter etc I think for us it would come out very close but we wouldn’t be settling for the unknown of what’s going in the milk products. I say all this to say thank you for this video it may take awhile to come to pass but this is a goal for my family for sure! Thanks again for all of this a new faithful subscriber-Jewels
Here in far south Texas, grass grows year-round. But farmers and ranchers still feed their cattle hay. I don’t keep cattle, so I don’t know the details of why.
Both my husband and I was on board for the milk cow didn’t have to really convince either one of us. We have one toddler and a another baby on the way. We live in Canada and one gallon of milk is 6 dollars and i was buying 3-5 gallons a week….. let’s just say buying our current jersey milk cow was worth it. Plus she’s due to calf this summer. She’s a older cow super broke and easy to milk which is so nice. We enjoy the quality of raw milk for our family. Plus I get free therapy hanging out with my animals so it’s worth it for us.
We pay $10 a gallon....I wish we had those prices. I buy two gallons a week and only drink at breakfast and sometimes before bed....it lasts us until the next milk run....we're down to half a gallon by then.
I milk 240 cows a day. The grain bill alone a month is about $25,000. We're shipping about 16,000 lbs of milk a day at roughly $20 a hundred weight of milk. I love farming I've done it my whole life.
Thanks for your honesty. I know I definitely don’t save money on my cow either but that’s not the reason we have her. Quality counts for so much and self sustainability too. :-) We’re planning to save up for a milk pump, that’s another big expense. Looking forward to seeing Kay’s upcoming video.
@@Homesteadyshow i keep checking for an older surge milker. Im hoping we can find one and just buy some new parts. We should be fine hand milking for a bit (I hope). We got a heifer and she’s going to calve in the coming weeks!
I grew up on a 60 cow dairy farm. I worked on several dairies in the area, and did an educational exchange in northern Germany. I’ve milked a lotta cows. We had the biggest dairy barn on our road in the 80’s and 90’s. There were 7 farms milking then. The same road now has 2 dairies and one milks more than all of us back then. Mennonites have moved in the the last 20 years and have taken over and rebuilt a lot of small dairy barns, but the prevailing trend is more cows concentrated into bigger and bigger buildings.
Wonderful video. Very enlightening and grateful since I've been considering having a cow on my property. One thing they overlooked was the cost in labor and time required to extract value from their cow. i.e. the milking, making cheese and cottage cheese, etc. Regardless, I think the labor involved is irrelevant to anyone, like me, considering getting a milk cow. Anyone that would spend $2-$3,000 for a milk cow is doing it for the "family pet" and the fulfilment that comes with the process of producing one's own milk and dairy products, not to spend all of that money just to save $10-$20 in dairy expense. Still, it was awesome to see how you itemized the expenses. Excellent!
The grass goes dormant in Florida too. I live in Tampa and my parents live in Ocala and have a boarding stable. Their hay usage increases and their pasture time decreases in the winter. In Tampa I can't even let my chickens or rabbits graze the yard right now because they've eaten it down to nearly dirt and I'm waiting for enough warm weather to get it growing again. And I wish I could get my hay for $4 a bale, that must be the bulk price not the feed store price. Thanks for making the video!
To purchase raw A2A2 milk in my area (what I would get from the milk cow we would have) is $18/gallon. To get 3 gallons per day would absolutely break the budget. I don't currently get 3 gallons per day, usually around 3 gallons per week. That does not include cheeses, sour cream, butter, yogurt, cream cheese, and other dairy products I currently purchase. Getting 3 gallons per day would allow me to sell or give away some plus would encourage me to make all of the other dairy products I currently buy at home. I have made my own butter in the past (just put the cream in the mixer for a while and wash the butter for 5 mins afterward), yogurt (instant pot), and sour cream (instant pot). I have seen cream cheese made and the only item that takes real time seems to be making cheddar cheese. The chicken math also didn't seem to work out either when we got them, but our monthly budget somehow went down after we got them. We ended up replacing some of our other non-egg recipes with recipes that had eggs at the center. So now we buy less meat and we make meals from our eggs and veggie garden. Not to mention the chicken stock/broth and the occasional chicken noodle soup we get from after the hens are done laying or we hatch out too many roosters. I can imagine having access to that much healthy milk will have somewhat of a similar effect. There are so many little things that build long-lasting benefits from these types of moves that are nearly impossible to quantify. We haven't talked about health benefits, the community that gets built from being able to give these things freely, the connection to our roots and nature, the lessons it teaches us and our children, etc. It's a lot of up-front investment that turns into generations of benefits.
I'm not a farmer but I I'm in the process of living off grid and having livestock as well as a greenhouse. This video has given me a new appreciation of farmers and how much hard work they put in. I'm looking forward to living off the land as much as I can.
We DO save money! A good reason to get a grass-only Dexter. Our Dexter milk cow is 1/4 Jersey. In her first freshening, we are getting 3/4 of a gallon every day (we calf-share and only milk once a day), which granted isn't a lot but, as a family of 6, we don't use more than that. We have to buy about half our hay and also provide minerals. Unless we are in a drought, we use very little hay in the summer months. Our costs - averages throughout the year are maybe $20/month after purchase. And we consider the purchase price being covered by the calves that fill our freezer (also on grass).
We got our first milk cow in July 2022, and did the math (so we thought). Our family of 7 goes through a lot of milk, butter, cheese, etc. I am now trying to convince myself she is worth the cost, even though in my heart, feel that we should sell her. Hay has been through the roof for us this year.
Do you feel that you need to contemplate the future availability and cost of the things you now produce? I guess it depends on how you look at everything and how you see the world going…🤷♀️
Do you have space to supplement purchased feed with what you can grow, like corn and corn stalks (silage)? Winter rye is very hardy and might be a grain option. I'm using rye as a cover crop to suppress weeds by rolling it down as mulch and planting heirloom corn into that (heirloom corn has double and triple the protein as gmo-hybrids in store-bought corn feed).
You don't save money at $52/week?! I just checked with some small local dairy farms around me (Southern Oregon prices from yesterday) and the price of raw milk is between $40/gallon to $80/gallon!!! My jaw hit the floor when I found that out. For a family of 4 that drinks a couple of gallons per week, having your own dairy cow totally makes sense. At least here, anyway.
To be up front, I've never worked on a farm and know nothing about raising livestock. But I've always been curious about it. Even though raising livestock and having a milk cow is more expensive if it's just a hobby and not a business, I can think of a lot of reasons to have one anyway. Emotional benefits, work ethic, teaching kids so many awesome life lessons, etc. I think it would be awesome to have a milk cow.
Striking a balance between cost vs. efficiency vs. intention is so difficult when choosing what to add to your homestead! thanks for walking us through your decision making process.
I make money with numbers pretty close to yours Cow produces about 20 gal/week. 4 to drinking, 3 to butter / cream, 3 to cheese. Eliminates our $37.58 / week dairy. Plus we sell 3 cow shares which means we deliver 9 gallons per week to 3 families for $6 per gallon. That pays for our cow, we get dairy for free. Saves about $2k per year. Plus we get high quality diary which would have doubled our weekly cost. Saves $4k. Plus we get manure for the garden.
The quality of the milk fresh from a cow is probably astronomically better than store bought. Of course the bonding with the animal and family and ability to sell the milk products is great. However it is a huge commitment in time and money and people should consider if it's for them. I live in rural Pennsylvania and love driving by farms and admire the amount of work these honest and hardworking farmers put in to provide fresh quality produce to us all year round.
The way I figured out cost (minus initial startup) was calculating per gallon cost. I am at about $6 a gallon because feed is SO high. BUT I cannot come close to that if I bought it similar quality. Raw milk sells for like $14 a gallon. Insane. So I guess my thinking is that it’s not necessarily saving me money (because I wouldn’t buy raw milk at that price), but it’s allowing it to be somewhat more affordable. Hoping this year we’ll make some money on cow shares if she ups her production after calving again! 🎉
But the freedom is priceless. And you can consider any food you produce yourself is food insurance. Anything I buy at the grocery store has a risk of so many corner-cutting things that make milk cheaper and raw milk is only legal to sell in some states (and SO much better for you). And I have to get their permission to buy it at whatever price they set it at. Remember mask requirements? Now egg prices double or triple? Bottom line: the grocery store is under NO obligation to help you feed your family. And if you need them for 100% of your food, you'll pretty much be out of luck if they lock their doors again.
Loved it, I'm from New Zealand, some parts of nz do snow but I live where it doesn't, more subtropical. I do want a cow 🐄 thanks for the info and look forward to hearing more on other animals 😊
This is great , thank you guys SO much for making this one ! Hey , did I catch you say something about being in Pa ? lol i'm new here ,maybe I'm wrong or it is a well known thing . Thanks again .
Thanks for making this. I hope to someday have a dairy cow (not sure how my hubby feels lol). I'd say we spend about $35 on dairy a week but out kids are still small so this'll be a good thing to justify getting a cow when the kids are getting into their teen years as I'm sure we'd be spending around $50 a week by then
We ended up with our cow on accident, so she was free. We get our feed for 1 cow essentially free because she gets offcuts from my husband's work, which we supplement with some hay during the winter, grazing in the summer, and minerals. She got an umbilical infection when she was born, so we spent about $50 on antibiotics and probiotics. Then when she was about 6-months-old we bought hoof trimming things for about $100, and two 2-gallon milk buckets for another $60. We got the shed we're converting into a loafing shed for $60. We traded farm-sitting for her breeding by a Belted Galloway bull, so that was essentially free. So all-in we're at about $1200, but that's spread over 2 years (she's calving for her first time in April).
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 I still sometimes can't even believe it. All the pieces just came together 🤷🏻♀️ It was God. Only He can do crazy things like that.
You should do this with chickens! The break down cost for your laying flock. If you haven’t already, I’m new here but love y’all’s Chanel so far. Trying to talk the hubby into chickens since that or rabbits are really all we can have where we are at right now.
We spend 20 dollars on feed every 6 weeks or so in spring and summer. We spend 40 in the winter for the extra grain so they don't freeze. Ours are completely free-range. Our chickens costs abour 3-400 dollars a year. Do we get that much from eggs? No! Definitely not even close. We have 25 chickens. Our family can't eat eggs from the store. It makes us deftly sick, so it made sense. Chickens are great to have but if you can buy chicken eggs from a store, it is much easier. And...they dont lay when you need the eggs the most during the holidays because that is when they molt here so that sucks.
Our average dairy bill (local grocery) $50 (Alberta, Canada). We are a family of 5, 3 kids under 6. Dairy is crazy expensive. But so is feeding any animal right now.
I was going to say, we spent an average of $50 a week on dairy as well. We're also in AB, Canada. (So that's about $35-$40 USD a week). We have 4 kids and eat a lot of dairy too. I looked at the price of butter yesterday and it was $7.89 a pound! The $6 stuff was all completely sold out. Made me thankful for our Jersey girl we've been milking since September. Our cow may not be saving us money yet, but if the prices continue to go the way they're going, I think we made a wise choice. Not to mention the health benefits of raw milk, which is illegal to buy or sell in Canada. 🤨 That's the main reason we got a milk cow, we wanted the benefits of raw milk and couldn't buy it legally/easily around here. We could also 100% make money off of selling our cow's milk, we have a lot of friends who want to drink it. Hopefully Canada changes that stupid law at some point.
I think it's complex situation and it's not always easy to quantify. Today, the price of regula food has nearly doubled in some cases, organic, wellbeing farm dairy products are more difficult to find or you have to travel further. We have a close loop system, nothing goest to waste, anything left from the dairy process goes to the pigs and chickens which reduces their feed cost. If you grow food /ornamentals then your cow is the best fertiliser producer their is! Again here , we make compost bins in the chicken enclosures and they feed or the bugs and worms whilst compost is being made. On top of that gives you an offspring to monetise or use as food. We buy large bales of hay, and the cost is halved , buy the grain from a local farmer almost half price from the shop which makes it very affordable.
I want the cow and I’ve finally convinced my partner. I’m currently working on turning a few acres of blackberry bushes to pasture so I’m a few years. So I’m keeping goats for brush control and to get some experience before moving up to cattle!
If you make sure you are getting good grass into her in the summer and good quality hay in the winter you could honestly probably get by with 1 lb of grain per gallon of milk. On our herd we peak around 55 pounds (about 7 gallons) per day. The ones that peak in summer will get about 4-7 lbs of grain depending on what we have for grass. The ones that peak in winter will still only be getting around 12 lbs of grain
Another plus is the-I forget-AA+(?) genetics of the milk. Southern European cattle have a factor to the milk that resembles the cells of a person's heart valve. If you have intestinal issues, and any of that milk crosses the barrier to the blood without digesting, the immune system will recognize 8t as a threat, and then target the heart valve of the person.
we did the math, and we're buying a jersey from calf and clover in CT for $1500, its 10$/ gallon for raw milk in NY and CT now, and 2 of us can drink 2-3 gallons a week. we eat 3-6lbs of cheese a week (8$ per lb minimum for non organic non grass fed), and 2-4 lbs of butter a week (amish roll went up to 20$ here for 2lbs). and we get high quality baleage for 60$ a round which lasts about a month for one gal during winter and have 2 acres of pasture she can graze from for spring, summer and fall.. So there is absolutely no comparison when you factor in quality grass fed and raw dairy/ butter vs high "organic" prices at the store, or the other bulk crap dairy you can purchase. Owning a diary cow made 100% sense, plus it has been my wifes dream.
Great! I love my milk cows. My best advice would be to embrace the hobby. And do one thing at a time. Cheese making is fun (especially aged cheeses) but it does come with its own set of difficulties and start up costs. And make sure you get her checked out. If she’s in milk, do a mastitis check on all four separate quarters if you can. Enjoy!
My partner and I both want the cow 😆 We would be growing our own beef too and also hunting and gardening, so really the only stuff we will be buying are clothes, shoes, salt, and the likes. Homesteading is what we've always wanted.
Thank you both for this. This is something we have always thought about but had not tried. It definitely gives me something to thing about for the future.
cows like squash/pumpkins as well and squash and many smaller varieties of pumpkins last 6-12 months so they are great items to help supplement feeding over the winter and are very healthy. you can even feed the seeds to your chickens and the rest to your cows (or pigs/goats/sheep)
Excellent video! I think it's great to talk about the reality of keeping animals. I know you probably have family and friends who would care for your animals if you ever wanted or needed to spend time away from the farm but for others they might need to hire a farm sitter. That seems like it could be a big expense. It can start to weigh on you over time if you can't ever be gone for even a few days.
I’m going the slow and more affordable way. I got our calf for $110, I’ve been growing her out and then this year I did a barter to get her bread. I incubated peafowl eggs in exchange for butter cup to spend a couple months at another farm. This April/May we should have our first cow offspring. I’m now trying to research and figure out what equipment I’ll need to calf share. I’m thinking of milking in the morning and then she would be with the calf during the day and then I lock up the calf at night to build up the milk supply for the morning.
And starting with a calf you can train her to a stanchion and daily washing in preparation to milking. Much better than having a cow skittish because you are a stranger.
A good idea is to feed winter hay in one spot. It is great compost for raised beds. I feed my cows in one place for a time then move hay rings. You don't have to milk twice a day. They will produce milk in relation to how much they are milked. They will need higher protein feed to produce higher quantities. Jerseys are great cows for individuals. Holsteins eat quite a bit more.
I feel quite fortunate. Being in Sydney, Australia, for $3800 US (~$5350 AU) we can get 4-6 jersey cows, tested, drenched, in their prime, along with all the automated milking machines. Of course, it is against the law here to sell raw milk so we have to pasteurise it as well before we can sell it, which adds time and costs.
If your not saving money from your milk cow you are doing it wrong. Butter, cream, yogurt, sour cream, milk, cottage cheese, farmers cheese plus all the hard cheese that I make. I make cheddar, gouda, parmesan cheese all aged for minimum 3 months. Raised 5 children on raw milk. Also, too much milk my fridge only hold 8 gallons the old milk goes to the pigs and the whey (from cheese making) some we use it great to drink and the rest goes to the pigs and dogs. We are in Canada too we save over $1000. a month currently
That’s what the next video in this series is about. As long as you can afford the time I put and startup expense (and the cost of learning), a family cow is invaluable! th-cam.com/video/vegoFZS72VQ/w-d-xo.html
Selling milk will cover your costs and leave you enough to use yourself, share, plus a small profit. I started with four cows but we have milk trucks collecting every morning here in Africa. You receive your milk cheque at the end of each month.
Its scale plus bio mass in milk out yadda ... plus goat's are produce milk and meat plus diet is more diverse eg you . Can place goat on rough srub but cows you need additional work. Aslo milk for chesee and yogurt has higher return than cow's. Plus can make butter from goats milk.
Thanks for this video! I would love to see more of these types of videos! New sub, btw. 💛 It hit me the other day.. I would definitely NOT save money. But, there’s no price tag on my families health, right?! And, peace of mind. That’s my end goal. A healthier, more sustainable family [life] that I can trust. 🙏🏻
I think this is an excellent break down. Most modern cows are bred for high agricultural output. 3 gallons of whole milk a day would be way to much for my household and wouldn't justify the investment without it being a business.
it also depends on what part of the world you live in. Here in some parts of South America, we have grass all year round and in some places cows don't even need a barn. Were I live dairy products have tripled, so having a dairy cow is defenitely cheaper.
I have had a milk cow when I was a teenager. It was never about saving money for my parents but about having fresh milk. Now the question is what are you doing with the fresh milk. Is it your milk only or also your cream and butter. But there is more namely a new calf each year. Do you turn that calf into meat? And what is that worth? Right now I have a pregnant heifer in the pasture ,( I live in Canada and have to feed hay and grain in the winter), she should calf end of may. Will I milk her? Maybe , but it wasn’t my original plan. My plan was to put 2 calves on her. Will it work? She is a brown Swiss cross and has great mothering qualities , which can be seen in how she treats the calf I bought her to keep her company this winter. There could be different complications yet come may, I will find out!
Great job. However my cost of milk products. I spend a lot of money on cheese milk cream butter soap lotions. So I think I'll save alot on owning a mini Jersey. Just me and hubby.
Oh I can’t wait till i get my milk cow but that is still years away. Have to retire first to be able to move full time to our property. But can’t wait.
I just bought 540 lbs of grain for $80 bulk 2 days ago. Bags are expensive. I RARELY feed grain because I have enough grass for my stocking rate. Last year I put out ZERO hay and this year 2 5x4 round bails. We have 10 cows and 40 sheep on 42 acres rotational grazing. We live in Missouri.
We're looking into getting a couple dairy goats for milk. My main reason isn't to save money on dairy products, but to save the earth from all the packaging that my dairy products come in and the gas it takes to drive to town to get it since we don't have a grocery store where we live.
The cows don’t save us money, but knowing where our fresh milk comes from and getting to enjoy all the fresh products (and unlimited butter😋) is totally worth it! 😄
I’m trying to get a milk cow for the same reason! I want to be able to make my own butter and drink more healthy milk. But I’m afraid of the cost😭
Unlimited butter sounds great. Butter so expensive here. $13 a kilo.
@@helenbarrett6451 Yes! Butter is crazy everywhere right now.
@@yaima0901 It’s scary getting into. But there are always ways to cut costs like they mentioned in the video. If you want the cow bad enough, you can do it! We started out with a tiny shed with tarps and wonky wood. And an old, old delaval milk machine given to us by a great grandfather that used to be a dairy farmer. But hand milking is an option, and we’ve used EZ milkers for goats, (have heard their bigger models can work for cows.) Machines are the most efficient. But If in a pinch, you can make other techniques work. We were getting down to hand-milking our brown Swiss cow out in 20 mins, much more practice (and muscle) and we might have gotten it closer to 10 minutes.
It’s a lot of work and commitment. But it’s worth it. And if you have kiddos, it’s a great experience for them, and great to help encourage a work ethic in them.
How do the cows get pregnant? Do you check the status via non-consensual invasion? Do the calves get to live with mom? Do they get moms milk? When do you sell the extra calfs?
The time element needs to be considered too. The milk doesn't just leap into your refrigerator as the cow walks by the kitchen window, then miraculously turn itself into cheese, butter, etc. as you sleep. I would like to see you do a video on the man-hours required to get the product table ready. From building/repairing fence, working on all the infrastructure required to keep a cow, watering,feeding, cleaning milking equipment, hauling manure, finding hay to buy or baling it yourself, to the actual milking and straining the milk , separating the cream, etc. I love your video, thank you for the time you took to go through it all.
Thanks! We talk about the time involved in our most recent video
Here: th-cam.com/video/vegoFZS72VQ/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, once upon a time my dad got us a cow, it was a giant annoyance to take care of it
Buying milk from the neighbor is much easier
@@GinHindew110 ,I guess it depends on the mind set, and the why behind getting a cow. I have 2 very sweet Jerseys, and they are seldom annoying, plus it's a joy to receive the fresh milk and see our Mama, mother her calf.
Very true. So if you want to make a strictly financial comparison, you could spend all that time working an extra job and if you compare that, you end up much better, financially, working extra and then just buying dairy.
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Jerseys are wonderful, and the most beautiful of the dairy breeds.
This is such a great example of why it’s so important to crunch your own numbers and know what makes it “worth it” for you. Here in NC, I purchase 3 gallons of milk per week plus several pounds of cheese for my family of 8, and easily spend $25+. And that’s not even raw dairy products, to jump to raw products, we would need to 1) drive 45 minutes away and 2) start spending closer to $40 per week. So all that to say, the family milk cow is my next homestead goal! It’ll be worth it when the time comes.
And I really appreciated coming into it as more hobby minded. That way, any unexpected expenses (and there will always be those), don’t feel quite so discouraging.
Plus the relationship you build with a family milk is so special. At least, in my experience. I call my cow my emotional support cow 😆
@@promisedjubileedanielsI love that!!! My jersey is so sweet too!! I love her love so much! 💕
Buy milk goats.
@@utubedude2842 I've had both, and the necessary infrastructure is SO different. Our cows we only need one string of hotwire to keep them from escaping. The goats we had to have a 5ft welded wire fence to keep them from escaping (and they still escaped. OFTEN.) 🤷🏻♀️
Great video. Milk cost alone is just the tip of the iceberg too, especially with a jersey or other high milk fat breed, you can make a ton of butter that can take the place of most cooking fats, along with just putting on your toast. Then there's manure that can help grow a healthy vegetable garden, you could calf-share and raise the calf for meat, there's so much more to owning a dairy cow than just milk. Hell, might even save you money on gas for your lawn mower.
We always raise a couple of pigs with the extra milk . Fed the pigs sowerd wheat
and milk.
Enjoyed spraying milk in the barn cats face! They liked it too.
Angus/ Jersey
My family is huge and we go through 3-7 gallons of milk a week,
easily a qt of sour cream (or more),
2-3 sticks of butter,
And about a half pound of cheese, depending. Coffee creamer lasts 3-4 weeks.
With rising costs, and how high they already are for our area, we easily spend $40-$70 a week on dairy
A cow can produce up to 10 gallons per day.....and your only using 3-7 gallons per week ? Average cow might produce 50 gallons per week. What becomes of the remaining milk ? A great way to get rid of it....buy a few hogs......slop them three times per day.........a cheap feed for hogs !
When I was a kid in the 70's, we had one Holstein milk cow.
We also had a small herd of beef cows and an Angus bull. We cut our own hay and had a few acres in corn. Also raised a few hogs, meat chickens and egg layers plus a big garden.
It was a typical small family farm in the Midwest.
But, there was no hay or feed being purchased. Just minerals. The cow was milked by hand into a simple bucket. She was bred to our Angus bull and her calf went into our freezer. I don't remember a vet ever being on the farm. And, her extra milk saved an orphaned calf once in awhile.
And, you left out the joy of homemade ice cream on a hot summer day.
Don’t worry! That’s coming up in the next video 😁. There’s a reason I have four milk cows
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Sounds almost exactly like my childhood!
We had a Holstein/ Angus cross when I was a kid. We had all the milk we wanted and sold the rest for a $1 per gallon. Eggs for 50 cents a dozen. So Mom didn't have to work. Great information.
We had two in the 70's, and I plan to get two again, though I don't need much milk if not for cheese. And I want two of a rare old breed, to make certain, their calfs won't be killed for meat but used for breeding. But my first try on farming will be six chickens again, we had 25 once, but those laid too many eggs for us. The neighbour said, her's don't pay, since she has rare old breeds that don't lay that many eggs, and paid more to vaccinate her chickens than their eggs are worth.
You know the old saying "Back in my day...." Well, years ago it was very profitable to have at least one dairy cow. I've been retired for awhile now (I'm pretty old)) so it was very interesting to hear your notes and quotes. Thanks for all your hard work. God bless every farmer everywhere, and every retired farmer too! ;) 👋🐂
We have 5 kids and we buy LOTS of dairy. Raw, grass fed dairy. We easily spend $65/wk on just dairy. Now, we'd have to learn to make lots of cheeses. We already know how to skim cream & make butter, ice cream, créme frâiche, mozzarella, sour cream, buttermilk, etc. I really think we'd end up saving lots of money and getting even better quality.
I live in Florida and people actually buy cows to save on landscaping costs. If you have a cow eating year round, you save up to $100 a week on mowing costs or a few hours a week if you mow yourself. We don’t have a real winter here either, so grass grows crazy year round.
Most little girls want a pony when they are younger but I always wanted a cow lol. This year I will be purchasing land for my first homestead and I can’t wait to get a cow.
cow manure, by 40 lb bag, goes for around $4.00 ($1/10lb) so you can get $10/day or $70/week selling the manure/compost to local growers....many people would love organic composted manure to add to their back yard gardens.
if you compost it with worms you can also sell the worms and/or use the worms to feed chickens/fish on your farm
True. I think cows pee would also make profit. There are pharmaceutical companies that keep mares for estrogen in their pee. So why not sell them cow's pee it is also full of estrogen
Funny coming across your channel this evening. I just bought a 4 month old Jersey heifer. Looking to get another heifer in the next few weeks/months. I already raise my own beef (not cheaper but so much better). I raise my chicken/turkeys for meat and I have my layers for eggs. I have gotten into making my own butter, cheeses, and having fresh milk on hand. I pay $8 a gallon and I drive over a hour one way. Not saving anything but I know what is in my food! That is the important part for me. No chemicals, no antibiotics, or fillers added. Just wish I could have been doing this when my kids were all younger. Thank you for all your information.
That’s a HUGE motivation for us… knowing and controlling our families food! Yes! 💪
This is super interesting! I am from Canada, so our cost of dairy is quote a bit more especially compared with prices in Montana… I would say for 3 gallons milk, a couple pounds of butter, cream for coffee and a 700gr block of cheddar or mozzarella per week our family would spend upwards of $50 per week on dairy. But the price of a jersey is similar. Vet bills are more, as a cow always has trouble after hours in our experience. So minimum $150 to get them out here. Plus meds for an average minimum of $300. AI is roughly about the same cost. I am not sure what grain costs, but hay is more certainly. Then factor in the value of our dollar…. Considering that raw milk sales are illegal in Canada though, to have our own raw milk, where we know what is being fed to the cow, and the conditions it enjoys life in, having a family milk cow is priceless. ❤
I'm a bit late to the party but I think something that isn't mentioned here that may sway things to a more favorable position is the quality of the product you get.
I bet the milk, cheese, and butter you get yourself tastes so much better than anything a grocery store can get.
There's a reason high quality restaurants source from local farms NOT local grocery stores.
Surprisingly, not so much. Raw milk does to me taste better, and my kids but the local farms also supply land o lakes, rothstien(sp?) And some others. I can say I see these cows daily 6+ local farms and most of them free range and just hang out, happy and friendly cows. Cost is the main reason to direct from farm plus shelf stable duration. I will say only worked at one nice place and we just ordered milk bulk in bags from hood.
I’m using my husbands account please ignore the name lol but wow this is by far the best video out there. I have been doing my research and this is just amazing information. I did my weekly dairy budget and I don’t think my family of four is normal my one year old alone drinks almost a gallon a day we buy eat 4 gallons a week of milk not counting yogurt, cream cheese, cheese of all forms, butter etc I think for us it would come out very close but we wouldn’t be settling for the unknown of what’s going in the milk products. I say all this to say thank you for this video it may take awhile to come to pass but this is a goal for my family for sure! Thanks again for all of this a new faithful subscriber-Jewels
Here in far south Texas, grass grows year-round. But farmers and ranchers still feed their cattle hay. I don’t keep cattle, so I don’t know the details of why.
Both my husband and I was on board for the milk cow didn’t have to really convince either one of us. We have one toddler and a another baby on the way. We live in Canada and one gallon of milk is 6 dollars and i was buying 3-5 gallons a week….. let’s just say buying our current jersey milk cow was worth it. Plus she’s due to calf this summer. She’s a older cow super broke and easy to milk which is so nice. We enjoy the quality of raw milk for our family. Plus I get free therapy hanging out with my animals so it’s worth it for us.
We pay $10 a gallon....I wish we had those prices. I buy two gallons a week and only drink at breakfast and sometimes before bed....it lasts us until the next milk run....we're down to half a gallon by then.
I milk 240 cows a day. The grain bill alone a month is about $25,000. We're shipping about 16,000 lbs of milk a day at roughly $20 a hundred weight of milk. I love farming I've done it my whole life.
Thanks for your honesty. I know I definitely don’t save money on my cow either but that’s not the reason we have her. Quality counts for so much and self sustainability too. :-) We’re planning to save up for a milk pump, that’s another big expense. Looking forward to seeing Kay’s upcoming video.
Keep checking on Craigslist for a milk pump. Also, did you check out the cow milking equipment group on Facebook? Maybe you’ll find something there
@@Homesteadyshow i keep checking for an older surge milker. Im hoping we can find one and just buy some new parts. We should be fine hand milking for a bit (I hope). We got a heifer and she’s going to calve in the coming weeks!
we got ours for 70 bucks online, plastic made. not the best quality but it works for us now.
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I grew up on a 60 cow dairy farm. I worked on several dairies in the area, and did an educational exchange in northern Germany. I’ve milked a lotta cows.
We had the biggest dairy barn on our road in the 80’s and 90’s. There were 7 farms milking then. The same road now has 2 dairies and one milks more than all of us back then.
Mennonites have moved in the the last 20 years and have taken over and rebuilt a lot of small dairy barns, but the prevailing trend is more cows concentrated into bigger and bigger buildings.
I'm sure most don't do it to save money..soo many reasons to have your own cow /cows to milk
I'm the one trying to get a mini Jersey in my family. This is a wealth of info! Thank you both so much!
Wonderful video. Very enlightening and grateful since I've been considering having a cow on my property. One thing they overlooked was the cost in labor and time required to extract value from their cow. i.e. the milking, making cheese and cottage cheese, etc. Regardless, I think the labor involved is irrelevant to anyone, like me, considering getting a milk cow. Anyone that would spend $2-$3,000 for a milk cow is doing it for the "family pet" and the fulfilment that comes with the process of producing one's own milk and dairy products, not to spend all of that money just to save $10-$20 in dairy expense. Still, it was awesome to see how you itemized the expenses. Excellent!
The grass goes dormant in Florida too. I live in Tampa and my parents live in Ocala and have a boarding stable. Their hay usage increases and their pasture time decreases in the winter. In Tampa I can't even let my chickens or rabbits graze the yard right now because they've eaten it down to nearly dirt and I'm waiting for enough warm weather to get it growing again. And I wish I could get my hay for $4 a bale, that must be the bulk price not the feed store price. Thanks for making the video!
We have beef cattle but added a dairy calf. It will be awhile till she's ready. We use round bales. But small square range from $6-$10 here.
To purchase raw A2A2 milk in my area (what I would get from the milk cow we would have) is $18/gallon. To get 3 gallons per day would absolutely break the budget. I don't currently get 3 gallons per day, usually around 3 gallons per week. That does not include cheeses, sour cream, butter, yogurt, cream cheese, and other dairy products I currently purchase. Getting 3 gallons per day would allow me to sell or give away some plus would encourage me to make all of the other dairy products I currently buy at home.
I have made my own butter in the past (just put the cream in the mixer for a while and wash the butter for 5 mins afterward), yogurt (instant pot), and sour cream (instant pot). I have seen cream cheese made and the only item that takes real time seems to be making cheddar cheese.
The chicken math also didn't seem to work out either when we got them, but our monthly budget somehow went down after we got them. We ended up replacing some of our other non-egg recipes with recipes that had eggs at the center. So now we buy less meat and we make meals from our eggs and veggie garden. Not to mention the chicken stock/broth and the occasional chicken noodle soup we get from after the hens are done laying or we hatch out too many roosters. I can imagine having access to that much healthy milk will have somewhat of a similar effect.
There are so many little things that build long-lasting benefits from these types of moves that are nearly impossible to quantify. We haven't talked about health benefits, the community that gets built from being able to give these things freely, the connection to our roots and nature, the lessons it teaches us and our children, etc. It's a lot of up-front investment that turns into generations of benefits.
I'm not a farmer but I I'm in the process of living off grid and having livestock as well as a greenhouse. This video has given me a new appreciation of farmers and how much hard work they put in. I'm looking forward to living off the land as much as I can.
We DO save money! A good reason to get a grass-only Dexter. Our Dexter milk cow is 1/4 Jersey. In her first freshening, we are getting 3/4 of a gallon every day (we calf-share and only milk once a day), which granted isn't a lot but, as a family of 6, we don't use more than that. We have to buy about half our hay and also provide minerals. Unless we are in a drought, we use very little hay in the summer months.
Our costs - averages throughout the year are maybe $20/month after purchase. And we consider the purchase price being covered by the calves that fill our freezer (also on grass).
We got our first milk cow in July 2022, and did the math (so we thought). Our family of 7 goes through a lot of milk, butter, cheese, etc. I am now trying to convince myself she is worth the cost, even though in my heart, feel that we should sell her. Hay has been through the roof for us this year.
It’s not easy. Especially with the prices of feed and hay going so high
Unless you grow your own hay and feed no farm animal pays off
Do you feel that you need to contemplate the future availability and cost of the things you now produce? I guess it depends on how you look at everything and how you see the world going…🤷♀️
You probably *did* do the math, but the prices of feed are climbing and outrageous.
Do you have space to supplement purchased feed with what you can grow, like corn and corn stalks (silage)? Winter rye is very hardy and might be a grain option. I'm using rye as a cover crop to suppress weeds by rolling it down as mulch and planting heirloom corn into that (heirloom corn has double and triple the protein as gmo-hybrids in store-bought corn feed).
You don't save money at $52/week?! I just checked with some small local dairy farms around me (Southern Oregon prices from yesterday) and the price of raw milk is between $40/gallon to $80/gallon!!! My jaw hit the floor when I found that out. For a family of 4 that drinks a couple of gallons per week, having your own dairy cow totally makes sense. At least here, anyway.
To be up front, I've never worked on a farm and know nothing about raising livestock. But I've always been curious about it. Even though raising livestock and having a milk cow is more expensive if it's just a hobby and not a business, I can think of a lot of reasons to have one anyway. Emotional benefits, work ethic, teaching kids so many awesome life lessons, etc. I think it would be awesome to have a milk cow.
Striking a balance between cost vs. efficiency vs. intention is so difficult when choosing what to add to your homestead! thanks for walking us through your decision making process.
Great video, very well done. Thank you!
We got our 2 Jerseys at the sale barn for about 1,100 for both. We felt so blessed to get them for this price!
I make money with numbers pretty close to yours
Cow produces about 20 gal/week.
4 to drinking, 3 to butter / cream, 3 to cheese.
Eliminates our $37.58 / week dairy.
Plus we sell 3 cow shares which means we deliver 9 gallons per week to 3 families for $6 per gallon. That pays for our cow, we get dairy for free. Saves about $2k per year. Plus we get high quality diary which would have doubled our weekly cost. Saves $4k. Plus we get manure for the garden.
This video was so helpful. It’s as if you made it just for me! Thank you
Spot on! You guys nailed it! I never expected to make money on my cows! Made all the errors myself! Subscriber for life guys! Love the 'stach'!
Thank you so much for a great video. With kind regards Torben Gram, a danish homesteader
Thank you so much for this very informative video! My family and I are hoping to get a milk cow!
The quality of the milk fresh from a cow is probably astronomically better than store bought. Of course the bonding with the animal and family and ability to sell the milk products is great. However it is a huge commitment in time and money and people should consider if it's for them. I live in rural Pennsylvania and love driving by farms and admire the amount of work these honest and hardworking farmers put in to provide fresh quality produce to us all year round.
The way I figured out cost (minus initial startup) was calculating per gallon cost. I am at about $6 a gallon because feed is SO high. BUT I cannot come close to that if I bought it similar quality. Raw milk sells for like $14 a gallon. Insane. So I guess my thinking is that it’s not necessarily saving me money (because I wouldn’t buy raw milk at that price), but it’s allowing it to be somewhat more affordable. Hoping this year we’ll make some money on cow shares if she ups her production after calving again! 🎉
Grass is expensive?
But the freedom is priceless. And you can consider any food you produce yourself is food insurance.
Anything I buy at the grocery store has a risk of so many corner-cutting things that make milk cheaper and raw milk is only legal to sell in some states (and SO much better for you). And I have to get their permission to buy it at whatever price they set it at. Remember mask requirements? Now egg prices double or triple? Bottom line: the grocery store is under NO obligation to help you feed your family. And if you need them for 100% of your food, you'll pretty much be out of luck if they lock their doors again.
Loved it, I'm from New Zealand, some parts of nz do snow but I live where it doesn't, more subtropical. I do want a cow 🐄 thanks for the info and look forward to hearing more on other animals 😊
Thanks!
I wanted a milk cow, we got a milk cow. Now we have 2 milk cows and my husband wants a third! 😂
haha can't wrong there
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I've heard "cows are like potato chips, you can't have just one" 🤣.. We currently have one Jersey and my husband also wants a second!
This is great , thank you guys SO much for making this one ! Hey , did I catch you say something about being in Pa ? lol i'm new here ,maybe I'm wrong or it is a well known thing . Thanks again .
Just wanted to express my gratitude for all of the excellent content created over the years. So with that being said, thank you.
Thank you!!
This is the BEST summary guys!! Thank you ❤❤
Thanks for making this. I hope to someday have a dairy cow (not sure how my hubby feels lol). I'd say we spend about $35 on dairy a week but out kids are still small so this'll be a good thing to justify getting a cow when the kids are getting into their teen years as I'm sure we'd be spending around $50 a week by then
Awesome video guys. Split that between 2 or 3 families and you get quite the savings!!!
We ended up with our cow on accident, so she was free. We get our feed for 1 cow essentially free because she gets offcuts from my husband's work, which we supplement with some hay during the winter, grazing in the summer, and minerals. She got an umbilical infection when she was born, so we spent about $50 on antibiotics and probiotics. Then when she was about 6-months-old we bought hoof trimming things for about $100, and two 2-gallon milk buckets for another $60. We got the shed we're converting into a loafing shed for $60. We traded farm-sitting for her breeding by a Belted Galloway bull, so that was essentially free. So all-in we're at about $1200, but that's spread over 2 years (she's calving for her first time in April).
Wow that is great !!! I’m a tad bit jealous 😉
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 I still sometimes can't even believe it. All the pieces just came together 🤷🏻♀️
It was God. Only He can do crazy things like that.
@@promisedjubileedaniels praise God! ❤
@@aliceh5289 absolutely! Feels like there's nobody else that could have managed it!
Awesome job! i love numbers and love farming. I dont have a cow but i have thought about it. You guys have an awesome channel!
You should do this with chickens! The break down cost for your laying flock. If you haven’t already, I’m new here but love y’all’s Chanel so far. Trying to talk the hubby into chickens since that or rabbits are really all we can have where we are at right now.
Chickens should cost you about a grand total of zero dollars a month
We spend 20 dollars on feed every 6 weeks or so in spring and summer. We spend 40 in the winter for the extra grain so they don't freeze. Ours are completely free-range. Our chickens costs abour 3-400 dollars a year. Do we get that much from eggs? No! Definitely not even close. We have 25 chickens. Our family can't eat eggs from the store. It makes us deftly sick, so it made sense. Chickens are great to have but if you can buy chicken eggs from a store, it is much easier. And...they dont lay when you need the eggs the most during the holidays because that is when they molt here so that sucks.
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I live in an urban Chicago suburb. I'm fine with getting the two for $5.00 gallons of milk from The Jewel Foods store.
Our average dairy bill (local grocery) $50 (Alberta, Canada). We are a family of 5, 3 kids under 6. Dairy is crazy expensive. But so is feeding any animal right now.
I was going to say, we spent an average of $50 a week on dairy as well. We're also in AB, Canada. (So that's about $35-$40 USD a week). We have 4 kids and eat a lot of dairy too. I looked at the price of butter yesterday and it was $7.89 a pound! The $6 stuff was all completely sold out. Made me thankful for our Jersey girl we've been milking since September.
Our cow may not be saving us money yet, but if the prices continue to go the way they're going, I think we made a wise choice. Not to mention the health benefits of raw milk, which is illegal to buy or sell in Canada. 🤨 That's the main reason we got a milk cow, we wanted the benefits of raw milk and couldn't buy it legally/easily around here. We could also 100% make money off of selling our cow's milk, we have a lot of friends who want to drink it. Hopefully Canada changes that stupid law at some point.
Great video! Thank you for all the hard work you did to get all the numbers down. It was very helpful!
😁 thanks for watching Rickie!
We feed Hay in the Winter but we do grow grass all year long, pretty much.
We live in North central Louisiana
I think it's complex situation and it's not always easy to quantify. Today, the price of regula food has nearly doubled in some cases, organic, wellbeing farm dairy products are more difficult to find or you have to travel further.
We have a close loop system, nothing goest to waste, anything left from the dairy process goes to the pigs and chickens which reduces their feed cost. If you grow food /ornamentals then your cow is the best fertiliser producer their is! Again here , we make compost bins in the chicken enclosures and they feed or the bugs and worms whilst compost is being made. On top of that gives you an offspring to monetise or use as food. We buy large bales of hay, and the cost is halved , buy the grain from a local farmer almost half price from the shop which makes it very affordable.
I want the cow and I’ve finally convinced my partner. I’m currently working on turning a few acres of blackberry bushes to pasture so I’m a few years. So I’m keeping goats for brush control and to get some experience before moving up to cattle!
If you make sure you are getting good grass into her in the summer and good quality hay in the winter you could honestly probably get by with 1 lb of grain per gallon of milk. On our herd we peak around 55 pounds (about 7 gallons) per day. The ones that peak in summer will get about 4-7 lbs of grain depending on what we have for grass. The ones that peak in winter will still only be getting around 12 lbs of grain
Another plus is the-I forget-AA+(?) genetics of the milk. Southern European cattle have a factor to the milk that resembles the cells of a person's heart valve. If you have intestinal issues, and any of that milk crosses the barrier to the blood without digesting, the immune system will recognize 8t as a threat, and then target the heart valve of the person.
we did the math, and we're buying a jersey from calf and clover in CT for $1500, its 10$/ gallon for raw milk in NY and CT now, and 2 of us can drink 2-3 gallons a week. we eat 3-6lbs of cheese a week (8$ per lb minimum for non organic non grass fed), and 2-4 lbs of butter a week (amish roll went up to 20$ here for 2lbs). and we get high quality baleage for 60$ a round which lasts about a month for one gal during winter and have 2 acres of pasture she can graze from for spring, summer and fall.. So there is absolutely no comparison when you factor in quality grass fed and raw dairy/ butter vs high "organic" prices at the store, or the other bulk crap dairy you can purchase. Owning a diary cow made 100% sense, plus it has been my wifes dream.
Great! I love my milk cows. My best advice would be to embrace the hobby. And do one thing at a time. Cheese making is fun (especially aged cheeses) but it does come with its own set of difficulties and start up costs. And make sure you get her checked out. If she’s in milk, do a mastitis check on all four separate quarters if you can.
Enjoy!
We have our grain delivered in bulk by our local co-op it saves a ton on grain, then we purchase cow and chicken proteins to mix our own feed.
My partner and I both want the cow 😆 We would be growing our own beef too and also hunting and gardening, so really the only stuff we will be buying are clothes, shoes, salt, and the likes. Homesteading is what we've always wanted.
Thank you both for this. This is something we have always thought about but had not tried. It definitely gives me something to thing about for the future.
This was so helpful. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks for the video. Very good information. Have a great weekend!
Florida has a couple months where the grass grows slow, but never dies back totally.
cows like squash/pumpkins as well and squash and many smaller varieties of pumpkins last 6-12 months so they are great items to help supplement feeding over the winter and are very healthy. you can even feed the seeds to your chickens and the rest to your cows (or pigs/goats/sheep)
And the seeds are also a natural wormer!
Excellent video! I think it's great to talk about the reality of keeping animals. I know you probably have family and friends who would care for your animals if you ever wanted or needed to spend time away from the farm but for others they might need to hire a farm sitter. That seems like it could be a big expense. It can start to weigh on you over time if you can't ever be gone for even a few days.
We actually do hire a house sitter. That’s another great thing to remember!
Great video Aust and Kay. I love the break downs
Thanks Cyndi!
I’m going the slow and more affordable way. I got our calf for $110, I’ve been growing her out and then this year I did a barter to get her bread. I incubated peafowl eggs in exchange for butter cup to spend a couple months at another farm. This April/May we should have our first cow offspring. I’m now trying to research and figure out what equipment I’ll need to calf share. I’m thinking of milking in the morning and then she would be with the calf during the day and then I lock up the calf at night to build up the milk supply for the morning.
Same, Brad, same! It's takes longer to get to the milking part, but then you have time to build up your infrastructure. Which is what we did.
And starting with a calf you can train her to a stanchion and daily washing in preparation to milking. Much better than having a cow skittish because you are a stranger.
@@OkTxSheepLady absolutely.
A good idea is to feed winter hay in one spot. It is great compost for raised beds. I feed my cows in one place for a time then move hay rings. You don't have to milk twice a day. They will produce milk in relation to how much they are milked. They will need higher protein feed to produce higher quantities. Jerseys are great cows for individuals. Holsteins eat quite a bit more.
I feel quite fortunate. Being in Sydney, Australia, for $3800 US (~$5350 AU) we can get 4-6 jersey cows, tested, drenched, in their prime, along with all the automated milking machines.
Of course, it is against the law here to sell raw milk so we have to pasteurise it as well before we can sell it, which adds time and costs.
If your not saving money from your milk cow you are doing it wrong. Butter, cream, yogurt, sour cream, milk, cottage cheese, farmers cheese plus all the hard cheese that I make. I make cheddar, gouda, parmesan cheese all aged for minimum 3 months. Raised 5 children on raw milk. Also, too much milk my fridge only hold 8 gallons the old milk goes to the pigs and the whey (from cheese making) some we use it great to drink and the rest goes to the pigs and dogs. We are in Canada too we save over $1000. a month currently
That’s what the next video in this series is about.
As long as you can afford the time I put and startup expense (and the cost of learning), a family cow is invaluable!
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so good.. love the practical breakdown
you just made me realize how blessed I am. I have a barn, fence, jersey heifer due to be bred in july, an old surge bucket milker. I am ready!!!!
That’s great! We love our surge belly milker too.
Make sure you have have replacement parts on hand. Stuff happens and it's nice having parts to swap in.
Selling milk will cover your costs and leave you enough to use yourself, share, plus a small profit. I started with four cows but we have milk trucks collecting every morning here in Africa. You receive your milk cheque at the end of each month.
In SoCal winter time is when the grass grows the best. Summer time is a waste land
Thank you for this. Honestly don’t believe I could put the pump on without puking.
Listen to 8:41 and what did she say, that one word? I heard something and wonder if anyone else heard it as well?
The thing about producing your own food is not beating the price, but the quality
Its scale plus bio mass in milk out yadda ... plus goat's are produce milk and meat plus diet is more diverse eg you . Can place goat on rough srub but cows you need additional work. Aslo milk for chesee and yogurt has higher return than cow's. Plus can make butter from goats milk.
Thanks for this video! I would love to see more of these types of videos! New sub, btw. 💛
It hit me the other day..
I would definitely NOT save money. But, there’s no price tag on my families health, right?! And, peace of mind. That’s my end goal. A healthier, more sustainable family [life] that I can trust. 🙏🏻
I think this is an excellent break down. Most modern cows are bred for high agricultural output. 3 gallons of whole milk a day would be way to much for my household and wouldn't justify the investment without it being a business.
Look into Dexters and Dexter crosses. A family-size amount of production.
ill do that, thank you!@@justmeandmypreferences
it also depends on what part of the world you live in. Here in some parts of South America, we have grass all year round and in some places cows don't even need a barn. Were I live dairy products have tripled, so having a dairy cow is defenitely cheaper.
Yes, def depends on where you live.
Unbelievable how much valuable information you are sharing with us. Can’t thank enough! God bless you!
Oklahoma - you can grow grass (wheat or rye) all winter. Summer, not so much.
How about a family milk goat?
I don’t have space or zoning for a cow, but I could invent in a goat. How does that end up shaking out?
I have had a milk cow when I was a teenager. It was never about saving money for my parents but about having fresh milk. Now the question is what are you doing with the fresh milk. Is it your milk only or also your cream and butter. But there is more namely a new calf each year. Do you turn that calf into meat? And what is that worth? Right now I have a pregnant heifer in the pasture ,( I live in Canada and have to feed hay and grain in the winter), she should calf end of may. Will I milk her? Maybe , but it wasn’t my original plan. My plan was to put 2 calves on her. Will it work? She is a brown Swiss cross and has great mothering qualities , which can be seen in how she treats the calf I bought her to keep her company this winter. There could be different complications yet come may, I will find out!
That was a good video! I really enjoyed it.
Great job. However my cost of milk products. I spend a lot of money on cheese milk cream butter soap lotions. So I think I'll save alot on owning a mini Jersey. Just me and hubby.
You can also save on fertilizer. For your garden!
Hay here in central Oregon is between $25-$38 per 90-100 pound bale!!
Ohh my gosh!
All the feed and hay is fertilizer whether it passed through the cow or not. You are putting fertility in your soil bank if it is managed properly.
Oh I can’t wait till i get my milk cow but that is still years away. Have to retire first to be able to move full time to our property. But can’t wait.
I just bought 540 lbs of grain for $80 bulk 2 days ago. Bags are expensive. I RARELY feed grain because I have enough grass for my stocking rate. Last year I put out ZERO hay and this year 2 5x4 round bails. We have 10 cows and 40 sheep on 42 acres rotational grazing. We live in Missouri.
We're looking into getting a couple dairy goats for milk. My main reason isn't to save money on dairy products, but to save the earth from all the packaging that my dairy products come in and the gas it takes to drive to town to get it since we don't have a grocery store where we live.
I want the cow, but not until we have more acres to support it! Thanks for the video, great information.
People are kidding themselves if they think they only spend 10 to 20 bucks on all the dairy, they must just be thinking in milk 🤣