we never know the kinds of people celebrities really are, which is why it's important not to fanatically idolize them. what a shame to see this scandal :/
@@lapisincognito Good try I'm actually Chinese :) Just so you know, a lot of Chinese people are die hard kpop fans too. You can't deny that Wu built his fan base from being a member of Exo...and then Chinese people glorified the heck out of him because on top of being a kpop idol he also has a Canadian citizenship and can speak decent English. The fact that you refer him as a Chinese rapper, laughable. LOL
I'm happy to hear these young Chinese people say they want the age of consent raised in China. I hope that this case is the catalyst for raising the age of consent in China and other nations.
I honestly don't see a reason for this. The age of consent doesn't matter if it's about rape because there is no consent. Rapist won't face more time in jail if the age of consent raises.
That's true when rape is involved but with the age of consent raised in theory it should make it harder for people to groom under-age people online. It can add to someone's prison sentence if the victim is under-age too.
@@edoppelle age of consent is also about protecting minors though, its can be an opportunity to teach young people to identify red flags and reach out for help if the need to
@@edoppelle I really don't think a 14 yr old has the mentality to consent to sex. This gives predators a chance to coerce and force consent, which is not even possible at that young age.
*I feel like as a society they need to praise the young girl who chose to expose him, because the courage it must’ve taken to do that knowing the power of his “fan base” is truly heroic. It’s truly a shame- as an army, I can understand when fans/stans get defensive abt idols. BUT THIS is something his supporters should speak up for since it is a beyond horrific matter, and DEF not try to reason his actions* ✊
Yes that girl was actually brave. It takes a lot of courage to expose scandal like this imagine there is million of fans that are willing to fight you just to protect their idol but she still exposed it anyways not just for her sake but also for the sake of the other victims. I salute that girl!
I'm also an army and I once had a crush on Kris Wu I liked his music but then this scandal appear I stayed neutral to see what is truth...And now after he is detained and decoding the things now really feeling bad to all the girls who gone through this harassing and the girl is very brave to speak the truth... And ya it's also became a problem to the fans like they can't see the negative side of their idols we should have to be neutrals and never trust someone blindly...
His career is over. Whether he is convicted or not, an agency will never sign him again. The most he'll be able to do is move back to Canada and live a quiet life.
Good. He was always annoying af in his youtube appearances, e.g. Hot Ones. He sucked on the surface, and he sucked in reality Edit: It wasn't Hot Ones, it was First We Feast.
I think it's important when discussing sexual harassment by celebrities you should also talk about sexual harassment and rape culture in general. Celebrities are less than 1% of the population, but one in every 3 women will experience sexual abuse, I think these celebrities cases should be an opportunity to talk about this issue in general, and not just a single case.
@@manahilsaleem6045china was too obsessed with him most of kpop fans always change fav idols groups and fav kactors they changed taste thru era 🤡 while cfans stuck n too loyal
I'm so glad I'm not a superfan of any celebrity anymore. Being a hardcore stan of anyone can blind you. The amount of people who have already to assumed his innocence is appalling. Obviously we don't know the full details, but in general, I wouldn't be surprised if assault/harassment runs rampant behind the scenes in the industry. It's not uncommon for people with money and power.
For those holding out hope these allegations will prove to be false: it is important to note that the burden of proof in sexual assault and rape cases is much higher in China than many other justice systems around the world. The police must have been presented with very conclusive evidence for this to have taken the course that it has. There is no reason to doubt that he is guilty.
South China Morning Post absolutely failed to talk about the matter. Thank you Asian Boss for interviewing this matter that practically all of young China is aware of
@@tonyeclau Maybe it has nothing to do with politics, maybe they're trying to get more information for a comprehensive story. I don't think international relations have much to do with celebrity drama.
His stans are still defending him on his social media accounts. His stans will defend and worship him no matter what he does and it's disgusting. At this point it's almost like a cult.
Some of the comments in this video really show just how sheltered some of these kids are. Like that girl who said she thinks its an isolated incident because she's never heard of celebrities doing this to teenagers before...what a thing to live in that type of blissful ignorance.
Exactly. This Kris incident is probably pretty earth-shattering to her given that she used to think everything's just flowers and roses. And it's just crazy how she thinks that it's an isolated incident after all of these...
Well, to be fair, there may be incidents behind the cameras but were never exposed. I think this is the first time in China that a celebrity screwed up his personal affairs so badly and made it known to the world 😂
I agree because right now that I’m 19, I think I was pretty much sheltered as a child too. When we we’re discussing about sweatshops back in high school I was ignorant to answer that consumers are not responsible and that it’s those who exploit the workers. But now I’m way way more awake of issues around the globe and she may not be exposed right now but she will very soon starting from this case. Awareness is good but I think a lot of parents choose to hide those issues for now for many reasons. edit: Also younger people aren’t really listening or viewing the news too much (me and my brothers listen but not often). It was only 2 years ago that I started getting into news more often because I was starting to be more mature. I think when you get more mature that you start paying more attention to what’s going on the world seriously and getting involve with the issues around us especially dark topics like this such as sexual assaults/abuse.
Imagine having the privilege that there are millions of girls dying for you to even notice them yet he still chose minors while any other person of legal age would have been ready to be with him WILLINGLY
Because being with someone willing makes you feel attractive, but with someone unwilling they get a power trip. It's about power, that's why they go after weaker victims, young, petite, drunk, weak, etc.
For all the laws and precautionary measures China has, I'm surprised that their age of consent is 14. I actually thought it would've been 18 or at least a year older.
At the tender age of 14 they are literally a child. They will not be able to take decision of simplest thing in life forget about sexual consent... I am simply baffled..
It's crazy, here alone in the Philippines our age of consent is 12 yrs old. Several politicians are pushing it to become 16 yrs old but it's still young.
This is one of the biggest reasons I hate the whole concept of celebrities need to be pure and innocent crap. People should never forget that celebrities are still human beings, them being rich or gorgeous wouldn't instantly turn them into an angel. They can still commit crimes so we shouldn't 100% trust and worship them. Some people who are depressed or suffering view celebrities as a god figure, a reason to live for and a role model to follow which is wrong. This kind of mentality must stop. At same time we shouldn't try hard to force them to pretend to be clean. They should be allowed to date, curse, drink...etc like any normal people. ( Am not trying to defend Kris here. What he did is unforgivable and he has no excuse to being such a scum. Am talking about other celebrities like Kpop idols who are adults yet aren't even allowed to drive, date, drink or smoke due to their companies banning it and people considering these stuff awful scandals ) I think at times the stress building up from having your life constantly controlled by your company and fans / getting suffocated with sky high expectations can lead the celebrities to lose it and do stupid stuff like becoming addicted to drugs or even lead to depression and suicide. In this case some of their obsessed, hardcore fans might follow them by also committing suicide cause they lost their beloved god figure. The whole concept of purity of perfection only leads to tragedies and misery. If the fans only focused on the celebrities talent instead of personal lives then everyone would be more happy. You can admire their looks, love their personalities, respect their achievements and good deeds but don't make your whole life revolved around them. They also shouldn't be forced to make their lives revolved around their fans and try their best to be someone they aren't. Anyway Kris's career is pretty much dead and I really hope all the victims get justice and other celebrities / people overall who are thinking about doing such disgusting stuff as well will think twice before attempting to. People would do anything to get what Kris has in his life and yet he ruined it all, it's just sad as heck! ( Hope everything I said made sense ).
Makes a lot of sense. It's too shocking to hear Kris Wu do all this disgusting acts! I support celebrities in whatever they do but there's always a limit. I'd stop supporting them if they did somethimg morally very wrong. Thank god I was never a Kris Wu fan!
I don't think this was the issue with Kris tho. China a lot more lenient when it comes to celebrity dating and kris already has a few known girlfriends and there wasn't much of a backlash for him until now. So this really don't have much to do with w.e stress he got or image he had to upkeep. He was totally capable of finding legal consenting girls and have a healthy relationship (like luhan?) But chose not to. If there's one thing about fans worshipping celebs related to this, it's that it made his head big. He felt like he had the power to manipulate young girls/his fans to sleeping with him or using them as playthings for him and his companions or whatever. It got into his head that him being a big celebrity means these girls must be Hella lucky to be with him and since he was such a rich top star he thought he could get away with it by paying hush money. Even his staffs were covering for him and threatening the victims. He wasnt expected to be pure and innocent at all but at least be a decent human with morals which he apparently couldnt do.
Well, I agree. But what these companies are selling is perfection and pure . In reality, personalities like these don't exist and nothing is perfect, therefore people tend to seek perfection for comfort or salvation from these people. Thus supporting and worshipping them like God. Just like idol companies in Japan for example. No matter whether it is in the art or entertainment industry, everything breaks back down to business which prioritise profit, benefit, advantage, power, fame and money. Kinda unrelated, but just wanted to share my point of view. So in conclusion, people who work in any entertainment industry are prepared to create a life full of facades and lies, either under the contract or for personal benefits. They are aware that job like this aren't easy and are fully prepared for it.
I think it's okay to support good music and good talent, but emotionally investing yourself into someone whom you don't even know personally can be harmful.
@@aayushichoubey8234 As a Chinese he was big, yes because of EXO but after EXO he promoted big in china and everyone loved him and made it in American movies as well. His music was good too, everyone in Guangzhou was listening to Antares. It's just that its a shame what he done is bad. Now imo 95% of Chinese hate him now. Glad he is in jail. But i respect your opinion. Just letting you know after exo he became even bigger.
After hearing the news, i'm shocked. I have been a long time fan of him since his exo days until today. I no longer can side with him at this point. If he's going to jail, it is a 100% fact. I hope the victims get their justice soon.
I remember fangirling to exo during my highschool days. I don't listen to kpop much anymore but it still shocks me so much. Edit: Dear Exo-L I am not dragging Exo with Kris. His action is his alone and please leave me alone too.
@@kumarules118 but he has nothing to do with exo. He was in the group only in 2012, one year out of 9. The other members dont talk to him and it has been almost a decade. His shameful actions are his alone and anyone who knows about it, not his past group
As ironic as it is, the industry that is full of the brightest stars also has the darkest shadow. Whether his case is proven true or not later on, we all should acknowledge that the entertainment and fashion industry across the world is plagued by a culture of sexual abuse and power tripping. It is much more common than what we think it is. I hope that one day, all personalities that enable and perpetuate such a disgusting culture will face the corresponding punishment for their crimes.
I really don't want to make it sound like ALL celebrities and idols are bad people or anything, but, *famous people are still PEOPLE and that means they are just as corruptable and corrupting, as any other person.* They will use their money and fame to get what they want, like anyone would. Fame will either destroy you, make you destroy others or both. Its not suprising at all. What annoys me is that there's still no reall end to the "this idol is pure and innocent OMG so handsome and clean etc." because... like... GROW UP. They're not!!! They're people with lusts and dark sides. Fans needs to stop eating-up the corporate nonsense.
My mom used to say that celebrities are people just like us, who need to pee and poo every day too. If being poor made me only capable of thinking something bad, their money and fame made them capable of making it happen.
really, this is just absurd. with his fame, look and money, Kris Wu can have any girl he want and he chose to rape girl???? How stupid is he!. Corrupted to the core. There is more to this than meets the eyes.
Haha! Makes sense but nope. But a lot of the people in more rural areas do not have full access to information, and that can affect perception. Like varying perspectives highly depend on the type of information (or misinformation) that people receive. That’s why internet is so important. You can just fact check things and search for what you want, instead of being fed with agenda-driven info.
That’s why I never idolize celebrities. Human beings are complex and you would never know someone’s intentions, especially if they only show you the best version of themselves.
Couldn't agree more. Like, I idolize Spider-Man, cause he's not real. But I don't idolize Tom Holland, because he's human, and no human is perfect. I mean, I appreciate his accomplishment as an actor...
Yeah if u don’t like the celebrity at all the STANS will continue to harass u. Fan bases for fictional characters and celebrities are always toxic if u hate on them. Those STANS cannot even stand somebody criticizing them.
Agreed. I don't know why ppl like to idolize celebrities. Like bruh they're not ur dad not ur mom, use those money on ur parents who definitely deserved it smh
Same, its good to have a role models and admire celebs or like the roles they act but idolizing celebrities beyond a certain degree is pretty dangerous and unhealthy
@@2ixu4nana YESS I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. Those people around you that support you deserve that kind of admiration, not people that you know just from their music or their personality on TV. Like bruh, that’s literally staged to look as perfect as possible.
I feel bad for the fans who took comfort in him. I can't imagine a sexual abuse victim who took comfort in him later to realise that he was a predator. Goes to show we never really know a person, specially celebrities.
I'm one of those fans. I still can't believe that I used to like him. Now, I feel so disgusted just by hearing his name. I don't care anymore what happened to him, he deserved it. I feel so sorry for the victims. I want to apologize to them too. I'm so disgusted that I feel like crying. It hurts so much.
@@nurnadhirahsaing6169 If you were a fan of him, you had to believe in him and know that he doesn't do this , but you're not. I hope they prove his innocence soon, but I hope you're no longer a fan of him
@@redeculis I think the fandom did right to believe in him until he was proven guilty but now there is evidence against him so i believe the fans should now think about not supporting him as that would be so wrong on many levels. The fact that you wrote this is already shocking to me. I hope you get out of that thinking.
I've did a TVC shoot (ice tea commercial) with him in singapore where I was the production assistant (doing low level work). Never had a good impression of him. He refused to reply the crew in chinese when spoken to in chinese and only spoke in english to crew and korean to his china friends that was with him. He also spilled bubble tea on the floor, and made the producer take a taxi out just to get him another cup. That additional cup cost in total about 40 SGD inclusive of the taxi fee. No apologies was given.
People who commit crimes like this have an illusion that they are out of reach of the law. The jail time would be a good karmic slap back in the face for him.
Please stop making jokes. This is really serious. Please remember that those poor girls, their friends and family have access to the internet. You never know what they will see. Yes all these freedom jokes may be how some of you process what’s going on but it’s very real to a lot of people. Don’t cheapen the severity with all these freedom jokes
@@BiGSmoke-.- He used to be in a Chinese subunit of exo and left in 2016 to China. So in these 5 to 6 years kpop has nothing to do with it. Your hate for kpop and this scandal makes you think it gives you a reason to come here and troll around but it makes no sense at all....you make no sense at all. 🙄
Your comment should be top comment...just because one person or a group does something (and YES Kris has STAR SYNDROME and thought he was above all reproach) but it doesn't mean everyone in said group is a bad person...Just as regular people can be good or bad depending on the person.
The crazy thing is that his mom is also part of his management team, and knows about all his habits and deeds, and still tried to cover it up by bribing the victims...
He is a Momma’s boy. As someone who actually supported him for years I always knew how close his bond was with his mother. I think it had to do with being raised by a single mother, father not claiming him and him kinda taking the husband role. There’s this thing called emotional incest and I truly believed his mother condoned a lot of wrong actions from a young age into his adulthood so I’m not surprised she was in his management team. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s gatekeeping finances, shares and property while his case is still being under investigation.
On the bright side I think this scandal is also a wakeup call to all young fans (especially female) in China, there should be a limit to how far you are supposed to idolize your favorite stars. Getting physical and selling yourself cheap in the name of affection and worship is proven hurtful.
Actually it’s the entertainment companies who idolize those stars, making the young girls crazy for them and do anything for them. These companies and the industry should be limited. Because if they r not limited, there will always be young innocent girls becoming their preys.
It's important to remember that celebrities are people with money and power and people with money and power are most likely extremely corrupted. The celebrities you admire are not the angels you see on camera. Never defend anyone.
Exactly our so called 'pure', 'innocent', 'angel' idols may be completely different off cam who might have committed some disgusting things in their lives. Power and money indeed can make people lose their morality and ethics.
Yeah, we can't get attached soul to soul. It hurts at the end. Because we don't know who they actually are. Second thing is that defending them baselessly is even more disgusting. Like some of his stans are doing rn. (You are an army, right?me too)
SOME OF MY FRIENDS/CLASSMATES FROM MY CLASS ARE STILL PRAYING TO GOD TO PROVE HIM INNOCENT! ANOTHER LEVEL OF STANS I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR ANNOYED. THEY EVEN MADE A WHATSAPP GROUP TO TALK ABOUT IT! AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. IDOLS AREN'T ARE PROPERTY! IF HE'S GUILTY, HE'LL BE PUNISHED AND IF NOT THEN FREED! THERE'S A GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT, IT'S THAT SIMPLE
Well....the trust ...it might be hard for them to believe it and they might be thinking he is innocent. So maybe till the police conclude everything with proof and if he's guilty they'll believe i guess
Your close frds and all those ppl are delusional. If it were an ugly guy, they won’t even pray for it to be innocent. Tell them that they are hypocrites
nothing wrong with that. they are praying for it to be untrue. let's see how they are after he's convicted. delirious stans are borderline criminal themselves, I wouldn't be surprised they go and harass him after to satisfy their sick twisted longing when he's no longer untouchable.
As someone who rlly liked Kris Wu and was very proud that he was a fellow Canadian, I must say that I am extremely disappointed in him. Praying for the victims and my heart goes out to them.
I used to be his fan too. Never thought that he is like this. I can't believe I used to like him. Now, I feel so disgusted just by hearing his name. I don't care anymore what happened to him, he deserved it. I feel so sorry for the victims. I want to apologize to them too. I'm so disgusted that I feel like crying. It hurts so much.
The MeToo movement is doing two great things. 1. Most importantly women have an outlet to hold men to task for their disgusting behavior. 2. Making people realize how sick and disgusting the whole ‘celebrity’ worship we have as a culture is for us as people.
metoo has nothing to do. After publishing the article, the victim and the suspect were blackmailed by a double-sided scammer. Then Wu's mother call the police first! Giving the agency a chance to search. Obtaining evidence of sexual assault is very difficult, they won't detend Wu which is a public figure without strong basis.
@@zetajolyne3689 the victims daring to speak up is thanks to movements like metoo, 50 years ago they would all have shut up. There's strength in numbers. The victim's testimony is vital proof.
he always gave me weird vibes even when he was in exo... its good that he left the group years ago else the group would have gotten a bad reputation and the rest of the members would have to bare the consequences as well... i hope the rest of the members are not like him... i hope every idol fans remember this incident and dont get blinded by their idols... they mostly targer young girls and i hope no other fan have to face this... rape itself is disgusting and traumatizing but being raped by the person one idolizes is even worse...
He was shady when he left and before this blow up he was always rumored to been dating young barely 18 girls all the time, so you indeed can tell who is trash is not like he have super clean image, maybe for his delude fans
I have to praise the girl in yellow. She is so mature and the level of knowledge, her way of bringing about understanding is so amazing! Love from South Africa 🇿🇦!This whole Kris Wu thing is so insane!
I was a fan of Kris Wu and I am from India . The moment I heard this news , I was about to go crazy as hell. I think the law must give the punishment he must get.:(
Same I also used to be fan of him but not anymore after what he did.... Also I wasn't his fan because of EXO but because of his acting. I'm also from India and now I'm ashamed to say I was his fan. The girl should get her justice!
These women were brave to come forward. Hoping their stories help others (regardless of gender/ expression of gender/ age, etc) also come forward. We can only end these crimes when we no longer support "locker room talk", harassment, and thoughts that anyone has a right to your body. I know this may roll slow I'm China, but the world is watching...
You are right. I think their stories are helping others and giving women confidence to come forward. Just today, female employees working for alibaba came forward with rape & sexual misconduct allegations against the higher ups of the company
Nah it will never completely end it. The sort of people who do these things are sociopaths or psychopaths, often lacking empathy. I think most people are decent and wouldn't do that sort of thing.
Even if this is proven false he will NEVER live a normal life, there was reportedly even Chinese people tracking Kris Wus house trying to paint it, throw eggs at it etc. Janice Wu an old costar of his has been getting bashing hate simply for being in a drama from kris, if an old costar of his is getting that much hate then i dont think Kris is a walk in the park for his mess. No label dares to sign him, all his sponsors dropped him, numerous celebrities have unfollowed him, an Chinese actress name Shen Yue even unliked all his post. This is literally the #1 talk in China right now and is probably the talk in every friend group im China. I hope if its false he doesnt dare even come back to the Entertainment industry to take a mental health break for like FOREVER, and if its true i hope he rots in prison.
He is not coming back, coz he is going to jail🤣. Even if he didnt, he is already blacklisted in chinese industry. Zheng Shuang didnt even go to jail, but still under blacklist. So, zero hope for him.
If it's false then why don't u want Kris Wu to come back to entertainment industry?? He is a victim then nd the girl should get the punishment...are you ppl just simply hates him or want the real victims to be to get justice???
@@btsfanfics6939 actually, chances of him being innocent is low. First, he is a canadian, for the chinese police to arrest him, they need strong evidences. The fact that he is even arrested shows that they already have strong evidence against him. Second, he no longer has strong capitalist to protect him, he is on his own. He also needs to pay huge sum of compensation to the big brands for the damage, so chances of him getting away with money is also low. The public are also very concern with this topic and following it closely. For now, chances of him being free is bleak🤷♀
@@wendyyy5573 from all the news reports that I hav seen there is a bigger story behind this incident like the girl was actually dating him infact she already had 2 more boyfriends/fling at that time...the victim kept on saying she will produce solid evidence on social media yet she never posted anything like that...also it was Kris Wu's mother who reported the girl first for blackmailing nd money extortion case...so the case does not seem very simple...I will stay neutral this time given how many times these idols nd celebraties got accused for sexual harassment by women which later went nowhere Plus being in k-pop world for quite sometime, I know how much minor fans like 12-13 yrs girl cr@ves over 30 yrs old idols...I remember in one EXO concert one minor fan held up a placard saying "R@p€ me Suho" in a live concert nd Suho actually got angry seeing this
He was always a jerk to begin with. The way he left EXO without properly parting with fans and members, that's irresponsible. His members can't say good things about him even if they try. He's rude and cold to people too. Most importantly, he was never good at rapping, singing, dancing or acting.
@@alexlee1501 did I say anything about sleeping with him? I say he's rude and can't sing, rap and dance. Don't tell me u fantasise about him sleeping with EXO members, that's disgusting
@@alexlee1501 has the standard go so low? A singer that can't sing. A rapper that can't rap, and a dancer that can't dance still get praised smh. Anyone can be an actor if he's the standard.
When he was a member of EXO (K-pop artists group), he committed a breach of contract with his agency and run away to China. He was able to become famous in China because of his activities in Korea. But he ignored his fans and started China activity as nothing had happened. Bad people never change. He deserves it.
Inside goss online, he needed to give himself up to both male and female that either has resources in entertainment industry or big entertainment company executives. He is a play thing for power, and had to go two ways 😃😃😃😂
yeah, ppl never really talk about this and act as if he were "severely mistreated" but let's be honest. he just wanted to be a superstar in china so he just left the k-pop market. let's stop pretending like he still cares for the other members. ultimately he chose his solo career, as with luhan and tao.
"he used to freestyle, but now he only has style without the free" "thought he was a rapper but didn't think he would be a r*per" LOL THAT REPORTER IS SUCH A CHAD
So there's actually more to the story. Apparently there was a guy pretended to be the victim to negotiate with Kris Wu's team to ask for money, and later the same person pretended to be Kris Wu's team to talk to victim to scam her money as well. Kris Wu's mom then reported to the police as she thought the victim was blackmailing Kris, and didn't realize that was the scammer's doing. Eventually it turned backfire to Kris as police started to investigate his sexual harassment and he got arrested.
@@Yoarashi if i remember correctly, dmz's post also included a recount of how toothpick wu likes to brag about his size ("it's big, bear with it"), but it's actually very small. Like toothpick.
In China he would pay and be completely banished of the industry in other countries with enough power and money some delinquents accused of rape can come back and have a career, meanwhile All things related to his career has been already be erased, his music, his shows, his media profiles, his fan clubs, this is what she means with it
@@jenlolo8902 Then I hope all the countries establish such laws for the people who are accused of rape and erase things related to their whole career in history; even Martians should enable these regulations.
most celebrities are different infront of the screen and off screen. they are not as innocent and kind as other ppl think they are. there are so many celebrities that are super disgusting that has not yet been exposed because ppl are too afraid to speak up about it.
@@S_M_456-c8n No worries, let me share the backstory with a bit of other details. DMZ's posts revealed many things, including how Toothpick Wu and his team forced her to drink, and Toothpick took the chance to have sex with her (which due to the lack of consent, should be called rape), how many other girls (including underage ones) contacted her after her first wave of posts to share about their similar experiences, how Toothpick and his team tried to get the names of those girls from her, how his team tried to set her up etc. And then, in one post she shared about Toothpick bad mouthing his celebrity "friends" and his other non-criminal behaviors. He also allegedly liked to brag about his size, going "it's big, bear with it". She wrote that it's actually small like toothpick.
I know this is random but even when he was in Exo I never could get “close” to him and like him. I came in during their Monster phase and when I was learning the members I heard he left with the others and I low held a grudge against him since he left without saying anything and hurt his other members it just seemed very selfish to me. I don’t hate the other 2 that left for some reason I guess because I could see they still missed their members but to him it seemed like he didn’t want anything to do with them. Please don’t jump down my throat about my opinion I just thought I would finally get it off my chest.
Hello, former exo fan here since their debut. The issue with Kris is that he signed with sm to actually become an actor but they chose otherwise, thus not respecting the contract. They kept telling him he would start acting later. Also, The second issue is that some Korean members were ostracising the Chinese members, you can clearly see and hear some remarks from a certain member I won’t name, which created a weird tension between K and M. So this could actually explain why Kris left and kept his distance with the rest of the team. You could see he wasn’t happy during his whole exo career and I can understand why. He just felt he didn’t belong there.
@@cindydistasio4161 he wasn't never signed as an actor, we could even read his contract, and sm focus is always idols, that sounds like one the lies that were spread when he left exo saying he have have heart problems which magically disappear later on, the problem with members, you probably mean the member that shade him when he left, what you expect when the clown left then just a week before their first concert without saying anything, exo was in the middle of the overdose promo and have to adjust and redo parts of their concert because he left, he is now proved trash, and I never like him, I'm exo fan since 2013, I have not problem witn luhan and tao when they left, they always look more honest I know sm is not the best company, but the way he left and the lies spread about him and exo back then just prove what some people said that he have powerful people behind him since the beginning when he left and that's why he left, he then became a super start in China and now he will rot in jail
@@cindydistasio4161 He was never signed as an actor. If you look at it, he went to China and become a Singer first. He want to become a soloist. EXO has a right to give some remarks, imagine leaving before their first concert? Who wouldn't annoy with it?
When Kris was a member of Exo, he's the only member that I don't like back then, I don't know why, while my favorite members were Luhan, Chanyeol, Suho, Sehun and Lay.
We never know about the others too. I don't appreciate most of them although the group and some songs sound nice but they have a whole company to make that happen. Now as people, I don't put my hands over fire for anyone I don't know and even knowing it has to be someone SUPER close.
Luhan is such a nice guy, I mean he suppose to be more famous than Kris, but he decided go public on he’s relationship at the peak of he’s career is just so cool, btw they are still together now and still sweet AF. we all know that idols won’t make their relationship public. Not a fan of Luhan , but he’s just such a good guy. Also Tao , such a good hearted person
@@sherku7858 Nas Daily may seem nice when you binge watch his videos but on off camera he was making fun of common people's life in village and also making fun of their language. I saw it on twitter
it's sad because when a celebrity commits a crime it's such a big deal when it happens to everyone. thousands of people are victims of sexual harassment but they didn't get the justice they deserved.
Of course when celebrities commits a crime, it should be a big deal. They are role models for the society. They are the inspirations for many people especially youngsters. When they commit a crime it makes huge impacts. It even damages the reputation of others who he is involved with. So they have to be more careful and responsible than ordinary people.
@@talithasijo6441 i dont think you undeerstood the comment. From others standpoint its a celebrities wrong doing but from victims standpoint , they're all the same, r*pists... Every SA and r*pe victim should get justice. You dont know how much we actually go through.
May be what they said or meant to say was lost in translation but "average people with average shortcomings" ??? I hope the average person is not a rapist and I hope they don't believe that rape is an average shortcoming ...
I have liked Asian artists since the 80s but was never blinded by them. They are human like us and have good and bad. Luckily most of the ones that I like seem to be pretty good people as I have liked them for over 30 years. I started liking them as a child and still love them til this day. Most of them did not disappoint me.
I think this interview was crucial for international audience since for my part when this whole story got out i didn't understand correctly the reports about it. Like for me up until yesterday the chinese police was trying to find evidence of his crimes but now i know that they already found it and are investigating further into it. So i'm like dang, just Hope there were not too many young women who falled victims to him, one is already unforgivable
Hmm... Don't trust anyone who looks and act cute and good only on the surface don't trust stage personality nowadays people fantasise about Idols especially the kpop trend but you should not believe whatever they show you, you don't know how they are in real life...you can be their fans but don't ever engrave in your mind that your idol is worlds best person with a humble personality you don't know how they are in real life they are idol not, God they are not your friends or relative that you can blindly tell that how they are in real life and how good they are... Okay, some people are saying he is detained not arrested so okay I am not saying that he is wrong but the thing I wrote above makes 100% sense whether he is guilty or not.
Actually, you are absolutely correct.If the police detained a person with out a valid evidence,that's against the law right!So, in other words their is a valid evidence and proof about his case.And the same time,there are many celebrities involved about this matter especially drugs.I have seen somewhere out there his name is mentioned (he was one of the costar of ZLY) he was a senior celebrity.There are many celebrities involved but still investigating. So, let us see who will be the next idol in the limelight.🤭🤗
@@gemskie5048 Also slowly the reality of the industry is coming out people who tied cloth in their eyes of the name of celebrities will now realise and so the saying "everything is good in a limit whoever crosses it has to pay" is true, implied to both celebrities and they're blind obsessed fans.
@@2024-l9n Actually, what call my attention was that they said "average" people as if this is something common in the society. Like most of the people do this.
Its hard when all you see of someone is positive messages, like they will only ever post footage of idols they have edited and made sure it's acceptable to consume. Pretty much anything is a lie to an extent, maybe not everything but tbh most. We know nothing about our celebrities of what kind of horrible things they are capable of, still go on stanning but keep it in mind I guess.
Do not focus on the positive aspects of a person, focus on the negatives, that'll shatter your rose colored glasses and helping you seeing the reality of things. If you like the negative side of him, then you'll love his postive side. In this case, Kris flushed his own career down the drain.
I always focus and look on the negative side of every person before but that ruined me so i tried to change it.(yes i hate getting easily attached but I'd rather see the positive side first)
Don't feel so. We never knew what was going on behind the cameras. For me I admired his looks & was mostly the reason I became a fan of him. Even among his discography, I liked only 2 songs. Antares & Coffee. Yet I considered myself as his fan, but even I regret & feel disappointed now :/ I never expected him to be innocent or so, but this was really shocking to hear for me as r@pe isn't a joke. The celebrity industry in my country is pretty much corrupted, so I thought it'd be a bit different with other countries' celebs. Guess I was wrong. But anyways it's just kris I wouldn't gonna base all the chinese celebrity industry based on him, but I pray such disgusting celebs doesn't exist in the industry (and if they do then they should get rid of quickly)
You know whats funny? If i would do a street inverview in my home country Germany i doubt anyone would give such reflected answers as you got here... Everyone seems to have thought a lot about the topic and knows how things are tied together. It's nice to watch such thoughtful answers.. Especially bc of this serious topic.
The Me Too movement in the US was started in the entertainment industry, whereas the movement in China was started by university students who were harassed by school staff or professors. At first the government blocked any mentioned of me too on weibo, but chinese users still managed to get around the censorship.
@@ParkerBG as the previous comment or said it started a yr later in universities with female students showing evidence of their teachers sexual harassing and assaulting them. It’s gaining traction again after zhu Jun a popular tv host has been taken to court by a previous intern who has accused him of forcibly kissing and groping her. Hopefully the movement will get stronger even through the countries censorship since it’s just as prevalent there as it is in western countries
If he hav not, will u feel the same disgust way for that girl?? Dont judge so soon...wait for the truth to come out ..bdw it was Kris Wu's mother who reported that girl to police for blackmailing nd extorting money from him
We really compare idols and actors to what they do in movies and what their character represents in a movie and we go on thinking "wow he saved a pregnant women's life by risking his own life in the movie" And so we all think that actor is very nice but actually in real life they can be opposite...
Kris Wu's case has shook me to the core. And it's not only because I was mesmerized by him at the first place but because we don't know what type of people these idols are behind the scenes. Any of our favorite could be doing the same thing and we would never know that we are supporting such a predator. Doesn't that scares you?
This can be the case with any person you know, see, meet. It's good to be aware of such a possibility. Still, it's good to keep your trust in people. We just have to move through pain if something bad happens and try to remedy the situation if we can, like, supporting victims and such
I appreciate that Asian Boss always tries to focus on the issues in an unbiased way. I'm so tired of seeing other media outlets trying to influence people into believing that his alleged crimes were committed because he has Canadian citizenship and is technically a 'foreigner' in China. His citizenship has nothing to do with the crimes. If he is found guilty of these crimes, it won't be because of his citizenship, it will be because he's a bad person. (Also, to be completely frank, the only thing Canadian about this man is his passport. According to his wikipedia page (so take it with a grain of salt) he was born in China as a Chinese citizen and he only lived in Canada for about 5-6 years between ages 10 and 17.)
Wow this is really shocking, cuz all this year im being a big fan of K-pop, even more EXO. Im going to be more careful about who I admire these days starting by the pastor from the curch and the celebrities.
Do you have any idea how rampant sexual assault is in the kpop industry? If you like kpop then well you are watching and taking part of an industry that is riddled with abuse. And that includes the shoddy contracts that kpop singers have been signed to
@@DavidJohnson-dp4vv It's rampant in entertainment industry everywhere unfortunately, not just k-pop. Only difference is that they seem to be very good in sweeping most of them under the rug because of the way fan-services works in this culture. There are lots of ex-trainees who are talking about it these days in youtube, so I think more people are getting aware of it. Nothing wrong in being a fan, putting them on pedestal is the problem
In movie Sweet Sixteen , kris Wu depicted a boy Xaimu who almost killed a man for raping a girl , ironically, in real life he himself was doing the same with so many girls ! Never expected him to be so cruel !
It's totally okay to be a fan of celebrities. But it's also important to keep things rational and be willing to criticize them where necessary. I am a fan of a kpop group too, and like with almost every group there have been scandals (of course nothing as outrageous as this, if any of the people I stan were confirmed to have raped minors I would stop stanning), and I have taken to the "wait and watch". Whenever something happens I wait and see how it develops until I know more of the full picture and can form my own opinion. I don't blindly defend them nor hastily condemn them. I wait, see, and when I am absolutely sure about my own stance only then will I speak up about it. I think it's important to be open-minded to the possibility that you might have been wrong about who your favorite celebrities are as people. We don't know them. As long as you keep being aware of that and don't rush to scream "They are innocent!!!" the second a scandal comes to light it's fine to be a fan. That being said, I was never an EXO fan, but I was active enough in the kpop scene in 2012-2016 to know about them and see their peak in popularity. And even as someone who only looks at them superficially I never really liked Kris. I don't know what it was but I tend to have severe cases of antipathy with some people without being able to pin it down. Most of the time I am right about those people (of course that doesn't mean I have to be or that everyone I don't have that feeling with is automatically a good person, but I never get surprised whenever I hear something like this about one of the people I didn't like in the first place). Exo really ended up being lucky he ran back to China with this one.
this is why stans esp kpop stans should stop infatilizing their idols or trying to keep them pure. theyre not. i have been a kpop fan for 10 years and i have seen more of these pure image delusion from the recent years due to younger fans coming in. theyre not an angel, theyre humans. theyre like us, they have their hidden side of themselves. fanatic idolizing is really toxic as it hinders people to see which is right or wrong bc theyre using the person who did the crime as a base for their argument. the person who they idolize, bc they think they cant do such thing. we have to wake up from this mindset. this is why some celebrities who did crimes think they can get away with it
please stop blaming the victims for idolizing a celebrity and getting in a bad situation, they did NOTHING wrong, Kris Wu is the only person we should be villianizing
@@rachelding5682 were u there ? Were you one of his victims if this news is true ? That girl can lie too . But yall shouldn't judge him this soon . If this news is true i believe he should get the punishment he deserves . But just wait till official news comes regarding this case. I mean maybe I am saying this because I loved him since he was in exo . And he was a least expected one to do something like this but yall can't come at him when you don't know anything about him . Bruh- grow up . If this news comes as fake MAYBE HIS SITUATION WILL BE SAME AS OUR BELOVED SULLI
Glad to see overall these people seem to be on the side of the victim. It seems like in the US when this kind of story arises, the victim is often blamed and ridiculed by the media.
"Thought he was a rapper, didn't think he would be a raper. Free Style, now he has only style ,no more free (dom) " Lol Chinese media really said that on national TV. 😂
@@princessramonah21 It simply means to not take sides until hard evidence are provided and/or Kris is convicted of such claims. We've seen in the past where idols are accused by multiple people, which turned out to be false. There are still no concrete evidence provided by the Chinese government. It's all he said she said kind of evidence right now. Chats can easily be fabricated. Most people are just waiting for the Chinese judicial system to make a statement/conviction before picking a side. It is very easy to just read internet comments and buy into rumors.
In these cases related with victims, normalize siding with victims first until the alleged proven innocent. This is because it is never easy for victims to come out and share it to the world especially when they are against a big name (as big name also have big power)
isn't it "innocent until proven guilty" ? What needs to be proved is that he is guilty, not the other way around. I'm not supporting him, he is more than likely guilty, I'm just pointing out the law.
i would be neutral but lean slightly towards the victims. because like you said, it’s hard for victims to come out and i wanna support the people who have lesser power. but i’m also not gonna blindly side with them until more information comes out.
@@manikantasrao7868 yes i know it is innocent until proven guilty in the law but in the cases that involved victims (rape/assault/harassment/bullying etc), i believe its important to side with victims so that cases can be taken more seriously. But do not throw hateful words to kris too as you said he is also innocent until proven guilty. I feel like we should support the victims more because it takes a huge courage to do so and it also mentally affect them too.
@@jbtfp Yes thats up to you. At least you still wanna have sides even just a slight. I also not 100% believe in them but for now im siding with them. I just hope people do not have neutral like dont care at all about the case. Because things like this involved justice, to the victims.
Don't normalize this kind of siding. although that in this scandal the victims alibi turned out to be true, there are so many "alleged fans" nowadays who make fake scandals just to bash a public figure and gain social media followers. Don't get me wrong. I too wanted to adopt your way of thinking. It's hard to be rape victim. but the reality that so many people nowadays willing to make a fake drama for selfish reason. the wisest thing we do is to not taking any sides and leave the story unfold itself.
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we never know the kinds of people celebrities really are, which is why it's important not to fanatically idolize them. what a shame to see this scandal :/
You are right, my friend!
Yes. For God is the one true God. Turn away from idolatry and live a humble life 🙏
Those kpop fans be delusional af though, they'd rather die for their idols than for their parents
@@rubiirae imagine mentioning kpop fans in a chinese rapper video
@@lapisincognito Good try I'm actually Chinese :) Just so you know, a lot of Chinese people are die hard kpop fans too. You can't deny that Wu built his fan base from being a member of Exo...and then Chinese people glorified the heck out of him because on top of being a kpop idol he also has a Canadian citizenship and can speak decent English. The fact that you refer him as a Chinese rapper, laughable. LOL
Kris used to spit bars but now he’s behind bars
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He's never spit one bar a day in his life lmaooooo
You mean auto tune?
🤣🤣🤣
I'm happy to hear these young Chinese people say they want the age of consent raised in China. I hope that this case is the catalyst for raising the age of consent in China and other nations.
I honestly don't see a reason for this. The age of consent doesn't matter if it's about rape because there is no consent. Rapist won't face more time in jail if the age of consent raises.
That's true when rape is involved but with the age of consent raised in theory it should make it harder for people to groom under-age people online. It can add to someone's prison sentence if the victim is under-age too.
@@edoppelle age of consent is also about protecting minors though, its can be an opportunity to teach young people to identify red flags and reach out for help if the need to
@@edoppelle I really don't think a 14 yr old has the mentality to consent to sex. This gives predators a chance to coerce and force consent, which is not even possible at that young age.
it's okay to like or respect your idols but never sell your soul to them, it's never healthy.
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yepp!! you need to have boundaries
Exactly!
True
Lookin at you, BTS stans
"thought he was a rapper, didn't realize he would be a raper" - Chinese tiktok news reporter 2021
HHAHA
He doing his job in a whole new different level 😏
He love his job 😌
Freestyle now just style with no free
"Freestyle"
Now he's only got style and no free(dom)
You got it right!!!🤣😂😅🤭
*I feel like as a society they need to praise the young girl who chose to expose him, because the courage it must’ve taken to do that knowing the power of his “fan base” is truly heroic. It’s truly a shame- as an army, I can understand when fans/stans get defensive abt idols. BUT THIS is something his supporters should speak up for since it is a beyond horrific matter, and DEF not try to reason his actions* ✊
Yes that girl was actually brave. It takes a lot of courage to expose scandal like this imagine there is million of fans that are willing to fight you just to protect their idol but she still exposed it anyways not just for her sake but also for the sake of the other victims. I salute that girl!
@@joeyannbatican3968 yes
Anyone supporting him (especially fangirls) should speak up about his sexual misconduct. And not blindly idolize him
Kris Wu is Canadian.
I'm also an army and I once had a crush on Kris Wu I liked his music but then this scandal appear I stayed neutral to see what is truth...And now after he is detained and decoding the things now really feeling bad to all the girls who gone through this harassing and the girl is very brave to speak the truth... And ya it's also became a problem to the fans like they can't see the negative side of their idols we should have to be neutrals and never trust someone blindly...
His career is over. Whether he is convicted or not, an agency will never sign him again. The most he'll be able to do is move back to Canada and live a quiet life.
After the lifelong jail sentence
Dude ruined his life damn😫
Good. He was always annoying af in his youtube appearances, e.g. Hot Ones. He sucked on the surface, and he sucked in reality
Edit: It wasn't Hot Ones, it was First We Feast.
as a Canadian, I say he is welcome home. I believe in his innocence and that she is lying to get back at him when he dumped her after 3 months.
@@AJ-iu6nw where is his hot ones appearance?
I think it's important when discussing sexual harassment by celebrities you should also talk about sexual harassment and rape culture in general. Celebrities are less than 1% of the population, but one in every 3 women will experience sexual abuse, I think these celebrities cases should be an opportunity to talk about this issue in general, and not just a single case.
but you can turn celebrities into jail to warn the public
Sexual harassment in on a whole new level in my country.
@@blackmantis3130 same it's everyday , every second thing here
@@blackmantis3130 sorry to hear that, I don't think any country is free of sexual abuse. It is heart breaking
I agree! For example, North Korean women being trafficked and sold in China. It's a big issue that Asian Boss should cover
*YOUR TALENT BRINGS YOU TO THE TOP, YOUR CHARACTER KEEPS YOU THERE*
He has neither lol
@@jenlolo8902 yea it was all about the looks now that I think about it. :/
True, what a line , i will remember it for my life ,thank u for saying this 🙏
@@manahilsaleem6045china was too obsessed with him most of kpop fans always change fav idols groups and fav kactors they changed taste thru era 🤡 while cfans stuck n too loyal
I'm so glad I'm not a superfan of any celebrity anymore. Being a hardcore stan of anyone can blind you. The amount of people who have already to assumed his innocence is appalling. Obviously we don't know the full details, but in general, I wouldn't be surprised if assault/harassment runs rampant behind the scenes in the industry. It's not uncommon for people with money and power.
Yup
I know this, but it is quite hard not to be attached to people (celebs in my case). I keep getting disappointed at the end.
We don't know the exact evidence but if it's truth or not 😞🤷♂️
Now tell that to the K-POP fans...
Shouldn't we assume innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt??
You know what they say: The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
True
And fall they shall
He's no big yet small🤏
The higher you climb the more it will hurt when you fall.
exactly
For those holding out hope these allegations will prove to be false: it is important to note that the burden of proof in sexual assault and rape cases is much higher in China than many other justice systems around the world. The police must have been presented with very conclusive evidence for this to have taken the course that it has. There is no reason to doubt that he is guilty.
Also, notice in comments how its international fans who seem to deny lol.
lol, china has no judicial system
@@saintgermain1716 - it does you moron. And its arguably more effective in fair punishmrnt than our adversarial system.
@@saintgermain1716 and you have no life to comment smooth brain comments
And not to add drug use...kinda ironic that his mom called the police on the girl and he was caught
South China Morning Post absolutely failed to talk about the matter. Thank you Asian Boss for interviewing this matter that practically all of young China is aware of
So true.....
South China Morning Post is pro-West. Kris Wu though ethnically Chinese, is Canadian.
@@tonyeclau He was born in China.
Nope. SCMP make video about this news
@@tonyeclau Maybe it has nothing to do with politics, maybe they're trying to get more information for a comprehensive story. I don't think international relations have much to do with celebrity drama.
His stans are still defending him on his social media accounts. His stans will defend and worship him no matter what he does and it's disgusting. At this point it's almost like a cult.
most stans are like that tbh ¯\_( ͡❛ ⏥ ͡❛)_/¯
Right it’s totally not healthy:(
In fact, some stans plan to "break the prison" to rescue him...
@@SteveSharps they can join him in prison
Kpop fans been toxic 🤦🏼♂️
I used to adore this man when I was a teenager. I am absolutely disgusted
Same
I'm still a teenager but after knowing this I'm just disgusted
When I first got into EXO Chris was one of my favourite and this is disappointing.
Same🤮. You are not alone
It's ok, my heroes were conor mc gregor, louis c k, we are not that different.
@Catch_Me_If_You_Can they don't just arrest people they must have enough evidence for there to be an arrest so he obviously did something
never get attached to idols
Exactly. They are just putting on a show
Never idolize attachments
I believe he's an actor and rapper not idols.. He's not idol anymore neither china and s.korea
@@lapisincognito celebrity = idol
@@lapisincognito the word idol has other meanings than the way you are thinking of it. Anyone could be idolized especially celebrities.
Some of the comments in this video really show just how sheltered some of these kids are. Like that girl who said she thinks its an isolated incident because she's never heard of celebrities doing this to teenagers before...what a thing to live in that type of blissful ignorance.
Exactly. This Kris incident is probably pretty earth-shattering to her given that she used to think everything's just flowers and roses. And it's just crazy how she thinks that it's an isolated incident after all of these...
Well, to be fair, there may be incidents behind the cameras but were never exposed. I think this is the first time in China that a celebrity screwed up his personal affairs so badly and made it known to the world 😂
@@cluo28 True. We never know what's happening behind the camera 😐
I agree because right now that I’m 19, I think I was pretty much sheltered as a child too. When we we’re discussing about sweatshops back in high school I was ignorant to answer that consumers are not responsible and that it’s those who exploit the workers. But now I’m way way more awake of issues around the globe and she may not be exposed right now but she will very soon starting from this case. Awareness is good but I think a lot of parents choose to hide those issues for now for many reasons.
edit: Also younger people aren’t really listening or viewing the news too much (me and my brothers listen but not often). It was only 2 years ago that I started getting into news more often because I was starting to be more mature. I think when you get more mature that you start paying more attention to what’s going on the world seriously and getting involve with the issues around us especially dark topics like this such as sexual assaults/abuse.
Then that girl should definitely read about the Burning Sun crimes 😬
Imagine having the privilege that there are millions of girls dying for you to even notice them yet he still chose minors while any other person of legal age would have been ready to be with him WILLINGLY
It's his fetish. He gets trill out of it.
@@Unknownplsyer whenever I think about him I feel disgusted
Because being with someone willing makes you feel attractive, but with someone unwilling they get a power trip. It's about power, that's why they go after weaker victims, young, petite, drunk, weak, etc.
@@LenehaJunsu some recent studies says pedo have diff brain wirings it's scary!
@@verybarebones this makes so much sense.
For all the laws and precautionary measures China has, I'm surprised that their age of consent is 14. I actually thought it would've been 18 or at least a year older.
Probably because there are different ethnic groups in China and those living in the rural or remote areas are likely marrying at young ages 🤔
@@cluo28 They're still children though and need protection against this kind of practice. That's what the law is for.
At the tender age of 14 they are literally a child.
They will not be able to take decision of simplest thing in life forget about sexual consent...
I am simply baffled..
@@mermangurung4297 They're not even physically ready for sex or child-bearing. Let alone mentally. Such violence. This is horrible.
It's crazy, here alone in the Philippines our age of consent is 12 yrs old. Several politicians are pushing it to become 16 yrs old but it's still young.
This is one of the biggest reasons I hate the whole concept of celebrities need to be pure and innocent crap. People should never forget that celebrities are still human beings, them being rich or gorgeous wouldn't instantly turn them into an angel. They can still commit crimes so we shouldn't 100% trust and worship them. Some people who are depressed or suffering view celebrities as a god figure, a reason to live for and a role model to follow which is wrong. This kind of mentality must stop.
At same time we shouldn't try hard to force them to pretend to be clean. They should be allowed to date, curse, drink...etc like any normal people. ( Am not trying to defend Kris here. What he did is unforgivable and he has no excuse to being such a scum. Am talking about other celebrities like Kpop idols who are adults yet aren't even allowed to drive, date, drink or smoke due to their companies banning it and people considering these stuff awful scandals ) I think at times the stress building up from having your life constantly controlled by your company and fans / getting suffocated with sky high expectations can lead the celebrities to lose it and do stupid stuff like becoming addicted to drugs or even lead to depression and suicide. In this case some of their obsessed, hardcore fans might follow them by also committing suicide cause they lost their beloved god figure. The whole concept of purity of perfection only leads to tragedies and misery.
If the fans only focused on the celebrities talent instead of personal lives then everyone would be more happy. You can admire their looks, love their personalities, respect their achievements and good deeds but don't make your whole life revolved around them. They also shouldn't be forced to make their lives revolved around their fans and try their best to be someone they aren't.
Anyway Kris's career is pretty much dead and I really hope all the victims get justice and other celebrities / people overall who are thinking about doing such disgusting stuff as well will think twice before attempting to. People would do anything to get what Kris has in his life and yet he ruined it all, it's just sad as heck! ( Hope everything I said made sense ).
well said i couldn't agree more.
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Makes a lot of sense. It's too shocking to hear Kris Wu do all this disgusting acts! I support celebrities in whatever they do but there's always a limit. I'd stop supporting them if they did somethimg morally very wrong. Thank god I was never a Kris Wu fan!
I don't think this was the issue with Kris tho. China a lot more lenient when it comes to celebrity dating and kris already has a few known girlfriends and there wasn't much of a backlash for him until now. So this really don't have much to do with w.e stress he got or image he had to upkeep. He was totally capable of finding legal consenting girls and have a healthy relationship (like luhan?) But chose not to. If there's one thing about fans worshipping celebs related to this, it's that it made his head big. He felt like he had the power to manipulate young girls/his fans to sleeping with him or using them as playthings for him and his companions or whatever. It got into his head that him being a big celebrity means these girls must be Hella lucky to be with him and since he was such a rich top star he thought he could get away with it by paying hush money. Even his staffs were covering for him and threatening the victims. He wasnt expected to be pure and innocent at all but at least be a decent human with morals which he apparently couldnt do.
Well, I agree. But what these companies are selling is perfection and pure . In reality, personalities like these don't exist and nothing is perfect, therefore people tend to seek perfection for comfort or salvation from these people. Thus supporting and worshipping them like God. Just like idol companies in Japan for example. No matter whether it is in the art or entertainment industry, everything breaks back down to business which prioritise profit, benefit, advantage, power, fame and money. Kinda unrelated, but just wanted to share my point of view. So in conclusion, people who work in any entertainment industry are prepared to create a life full of facades and lies, either under the contract or for personal benefits. They are aware that job like this aren't easy and are fully prepared for it.
I think it's okay to support good music and good talent, but emotionally investing yourself into someone whom you don't even know personally can be harmful.
true true
Well according to me he was not even good he was all famous because of exo. Just personal opinion.
Ryt
@@aayushichoubey8234 As a Chinese he was big, yes because of EXO but after EXO he promoted big in china and everyone loved him and made it in American movies as well. His music was good too, everyone in Guangzhou was listening to Antares. It's just that its a shame what he done is bad. Now imo 95% of Chinese hate him now. Glad he is in jail. But i respect your opinion. Just letting you know after exo he became even bigger.
@@xxxibgdrgn3782 I know it was profitable for him to leave exo but he was not that good.
Dude got everything and decided to ruin his life
and the life of his victims...
That's why nobody is perfect we just need to accept ourselves the way we are
More like he APPEARED to have “everything,” based on _some_ people’s values.
@@luyigapatricia2360 huh?? Tf you're talking about? Raping ppl is a choice
@@moonbyulswife3990 I didn't mean that dear do get me wrong. peace
After hearing the news, i'm shocked. I have been a long time fan of him since his exo days until today. I no longer can side with him at this point. If he's going to jail, it is a 100% fact. I hope the victims get their justice soon.
Same
🤷♂️
Yeah same he's my first bias in kpop😩
I remember fangirling to exo during my highschool days. I don't listen to kpop much anymore but it still shocks me so much.
Edit: Dear Exo-L I am not dragging Exo with Kris. His action is his alone and please leave me alone too.
@@kumarules118 but he has nothing to do with exo. He was in the group only in 2012, one year out of 9. The other members dont talk to him and it has been almost a decade. His shameful actions are his alone and anyone who knows about it, not his past group
Moral of this story: the higher you go, the humbler you should be... or else, you’ll fall hard to the ground.
It's not abt humble. Its abt sex abuse criminal !! Even you low or high, you still have to be punished for it.
This ain't about being humble or arrogant. Its SA , a whole different topic
As ironic as it is, the industry that is full of the brightest stars also has the darkest shadow. Whether his case is proven true or not later on, we all should acknowledge that the entertainment and fashion industry across the world is plagued by a culture of sexual abuse and power tripping. It is much more common than what we think it is. I hope that one day, all personalities that enable and perpetuate such a disgusting culture will face the corresponding punishment for their crimes.
👏👏👏👏I too wish same
very well said. people don't realize how common things like these are in these industries.
Yep, some bed climbing action saga still continues.
The sad thing is, it happens everywhere. Not just in the entertainment and fashion industry
' Brightest stars have the darkest shadows'- good one
I really don't want to make it sound like ALL celebrities and idols are bad people or anything, but, *famous people are still PEOPLE and that means they are just as corruptable and corrupting, as any other person.* They will use their money and fame to get what they want, like anyone would.
Fame will either destroy you, make you destroy others or both. Its not suprising at all.
What annoys me is that there's still no reall end to the "this idol is pure and innocent OMG so handsome and clean etc." because... like... GROW UP. They're not!!! They're people with lusts and dark sides. Fans needs to stop eating-up the corporate nonsense.
I just hope can see more idol-ish like JTL these day 😅
My mom used to say that celebrities are people just like us, who need to pee and poo every day too. If being poor made me only capable of thinking something bad, their money and fame made them capable of making it happen.
@@vilyar122 your mom is really a wise person!
really, this is just absurd. with his fame, look and money, Kris Wu can have any girl he want and he chose to rape girl????
How stupid is he!. Corrupted to the core. There is more to this than meets the eyes.
@Tralala_Beez Dumb. He's a human regardless. Just did some bad deeds.
Always amazes me how cultured these answers are... Chinese people aren't as "brainwashed" as the rest of the world claims
LOL~ you watched too much FOX news lmao 🤣 Chinese people are smart and it’s hard to brainwash or trick them
Nobody is stupid here.
Depends on what kind of topics
I think it's common sense to realize that billions of people all thinking the same is a ridiculous claim
Haha! Makes sense but nope. But a lot of the people in more rural areas do not have full access to information, and that can affect perception. Like varying perspectives highly depend on the type of information (or misinformation) that people receive. That’s why internet is so important. You can just fact check things and search for what you want, instead of being fed with agenda-driven info.
That’s why I never idolize celebrities. Human beings are complex and you would never know someone’s intentions, especially if they only show you the best version of themselves.
Couldn't agree more. Like, I idolize Spider-Man, cause he's not real. But I don't idolize Tom Holland, because he's human, and no human is perfect. I mean, I appreciate his accomplishment as an actor...
Yeah if u don’t like the celebrity at all the STANS will continue to harass u. Fan bases for fictional characters and celebrities are always toxic if u hate on them. Those STANS cannot even stand somebody criticizing them.
Agreed. I don't know why ppl like to idolize celebrities. Like bruh they're not ur dad not ur mom, use those money on ur parents who definitely deserved it smh
Same, its good to have a role models and admire celebs or like the roles they act but idolizing celebrities beyond a certain degree is pretty dangerous and unhealthy
@@2ixu4nana YESS I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. Those people around you that support you deserve that kind of admiration, not people that you know just from their music or their personality on TV. Like bruh, that’s literally staged to look as perfect as possible.
I feel bad for the fans who took comfort in him. I can't imagine a sexual abuse victim who took comfort in him later to realise that he was a predator. Goes to show we never really know a person, specially celebrities.
I'm one of those fans. I still can't believe that I used to like him. Now, I feel so disgusted just by hearing his name. I don't care anymore what happened to him, he deserved it. I feel so sorry for the victims. I want to apologize to them too. I'm so disgusted that I feel like crying. It hurts so much.
@@nurnadhirahsaing6169 If you were a fan of him, you had to believe in him and know that he doesn't do this , but you're not. I hope they prove his innocence soon, but I hope you're no longer a fan of him
@Ash Talom what?
@@redeculis I think the fandom did right to believe in him until he was proven guilty but now there is evidence against him so i believe the fans should now think about not supporting him as that would be so wrong on many levels.
The fact that you wrote this is already shocking to me. I hope you get out of that thinking.
I've did a TVC shoot (ice tea commercial) with him in singapore where I was the production assistant (doing low level work). Never had a good impression of him. He refused to reply the crew in chinese when spoken to in chinese and only spoke in english to crew and korean to his china friends that was with him.
He also spilled bubble tea on the floor, and made the producer take a taxi out just to get him another cup. That additional cup cost in total about 40 SGD inclusive of the taxi fee. No apologies was given.
Gosh, what a horrible human being.
Thanks for sharing.
thanks for sharing,
I hope ppl see this
People who commit crimes like this have an illusion that they are out of reach of the law. The jail time would be a good karmic slap back in the face for him.
Reason why he left sm idols groups china was too nice in giving popularity 🤨🤨🤨 there are way many more hardworker idols than him in talent
Please stop making jokes.
This is really serious. Please remember that those poor girls, their friends and family have access to the internet. You never know what they will see. Yes all these freedom jokes may be how some of you process what’s going on but it’s very real to a lot of people. Don’t cheapen the severity with all these freedom jokes
Tell that to the K POP fans who are still making him seem "innocent". Disgusting
And to think some of them are minors. God
What’s freedom jokes? I never came across any comments like that. Could you elaborate?
Don't consider all kpop fans Please ..The ones who are defending him are his Chinese fans..
@@BiGSmoke-.- He used to be in a Chinese subunit of exo and left in 2016 to China. So in these 5 to 6 years kpop has nothing to do with it. Your hate for kpop and this scandal makes you think it gives you a reason to come here and troll around but it makes no sense at all....you make no sense at all. 🙄
Me expectation to idols now : you don’t need to be a good person(or pretend to be), you just need to be civilized human abided by law.
I just have few favorites(very few) and now all I want from them is just don't be criminals.
Your comment should be top comment...just because one person or a group does something (and YES Kris has STAR SYNDROME and thought he was above all reproach) but it doesn't mean everyone in said group is a bad person...Just as regular people can be good or bad depending on the person.
The crazy thing is that his mom is also part of his management team, and knows about all his habits and deeds, and still tried to cover it up by bribing the victims...
Whaaaaaaat holy this is crazy
Yooo I used to be OT12 stan but I’m glad he left EXO now 😭😭
He is a Momma’s boy. As someone who actually supported him for years I always knew how close his bond was with his mother. I think it had to do with being raised by a single mother, father not claiming him and him kinda taking the husband role. There’s this thing called emotional incest and I truly believed his mother condoned a lot of wrong actions from a young age into his adulthood so I’m not surprised she was in his management team. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s gatekeeping finances, shares and property while his case is still being under investigation.
That’s even more scandalous when his family’s involved in the crime. Cops should investigate his mom & management team
She's a mother and they'll do anything to protect their offspring. Just blind love
On the bright side I think this scandal is also a wakeup call to all young fans (especially female) in China, there should be a limit to how far you are supposed to idolize your favorite stars. Getting physical and selling yourself cheap in the name of affection and worship is proven hurtful.
So true. Luckily i'm not his fan and i'm miles away.🧡💙
Exactly
Actually it’s the entertainment companies who idolize those stars, making the young girls crazy for them and do anything for them. These companies and the industry should be limited. Because if they r not limited, there will always be young innocent girls becoming their preys.
@@三囧-x7e maybe you are right. All of them should be under strict regulations.
Today's youngsters are living in a fantacy world. They are mesmerising in their idols cuteness n innocence.😏
The girl wearing glasses, so innocent, to think that it's an isolated incident :(
It's important to remember that celebrities are people with money and power and people with money and power are most likely extremely corrupted. The celebrities you admire are not the angels you see on camera. Never defend anyone.
He a rubbish to me
@@looboolan8853 i feel the same way.
@@looboolan8853 after this incident or has always been? lol
Exactly our so called 'pure', 'innocent', 'angel' idols may be completely different off cam who might have committed some disgusting things in their lives. Power and money indeed can make people lose their morality and ethics.
I can never trust men. There's only a handful of male kpop idols i actually trust.
High time to stop overly obsessing on idols
Yeah, we can't get attached soul to soul. It hurts at the end. Because we don't know who they actually are. Second thing is that defending them baselessly is even more disgusting. Like some of his stans are doing rn.
(You are an army, right?me too)
@@ngasimena4329 idols not only exist in Korea..go educate yourself he is a chinese idol
U mean with bts too?
@@kangsoo5222 ya
@@notsocath5371 but they are soo innocent... Haven't u seen jk(actually i want too but my brain isn't able to find any valid reason 😭)
SOME OF MY FRIENDS/CLASSMATES FROM MY CLASS ARE STILL PRAYING TO GOD TO PROVE HIM INNOCENT! ANOTHER LEVEL OF STANS I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR ANNOYED. THEY EVEN MADE A WHATSAPP GROUP TO TALK ABOUT IT! AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. IDOLS AREN'T ARE PROPERTY! IF HE'S GUILTY, HE'LL BE PUNISHED AND IF NOT THEN FREED! THERE'S A GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT, IT'S THAT SIMPLE
IKR ITS SO ANNOYING PEOPLE SUPPORTING THEM
Well....the trust ...it might be hard for them to believe it and they might be thinking he is innocent. So maybe till the police conclude everything with proof and if he's guilty they'll believe i guess
Your close frds and all those ppl are delusional. If it were an ugly guy, they won’t even pray for it to be innocent. Tell them that they are hypocrites
They need help.
nothing wrong with that. they are praying for it to be untrue. let's see how they are after he's convicted. delirious stans are borderline criminal themselves, I wouldn't be surprised they go and harass him after to satisfy their sick twisted longing when he's no longer untouchable.
As someone who rlly liked Kris Wu and was very proud that he was a fellow Canadian, I must say that I am extremely disappointed in him. Praying for the victims and my heart goes out to them.
I used to be his fan too. Never thought that he is like this. I can't believe I used to like him. Now, I feel so disgusted just by hearing his name. I don't care anymore what happened to him, he deserved it. I feel so sorry for the victims. I want to apologize to them too. I'm so disgusted that I feel like crying. It hurts so much.
The MeToo movement is doing two great things.
1. Most importantly women have an outlet to hold men to task for their disgusting behavior.
2. Making people realize how sick and disgusting the whole ‘celebrity’ worship we have as a culture is for us as people.
metoo has nothing to do. After publishing the article, the victim and the suspect were blackmailed by a double-sided scammer. Then Wu's mother call the police first! Giving the agency a chance to search. Obtaining evidence of sexual assault is very difficult, they won't detend Wu which is a public figure without strong basis.
@Kyle Plante YESSS 👏👏👏👏
@@zetajolyne3689 the victims daring to speak up is thanks to movements like metoo, 50 years ago they would all have shut up. There's strength in numbers. The victim's testimony is vital proof.
he always gave me weird vibes even when he was in exo... its good that he left the group years ago else the group would have gotten a bad reputation and the rest of the members would have to bare the consequences as well... i hope the rest of the members are not like him...
i hope every idol fans remember this incident and dont get blinded by their idols... they mostly targer young girls and i hope no other fan have to face this... rape itself is disgusting and traumatizing but being raped by the person one idolizes is even worse...
Finally someone is talking sense in this comment section.
High time we stop obsessing over idols and celebs WHATSOEVER.
WE DON'T KNOW THEM PERSONALLY.
He was shady when he left and before this blow up he was always rumored to been dating young barely 18 girls all the time, so you indeed can tell who is trash is not like he have super clean image, maybe for his delude fans
You have good intuition that’s good
Same...I didn't like his vibes all that much
Money CAN'T buy everything.
May the survivors get JUSTICE and all the support they need to heal and move on from their traumatic experience!
I have to praise the girl in yellow. She is so mature and the level of knowledge, her way of bringing about understanding is so amazing! Love from South Africa 🇿🇦!This whole Kris Wu thing is so insane!
I was a fan of Kris Wu and I am from India . The moment I heard this news , I was about to go crazy as hell. I think the law must give the punishment he must get.:(
Yes, I know him since 6 years probably but never knew he'd be doing this kind of terrible work . I'm already sick .
Same
Welp even I am from India but I was never a fan of him. I hope the girls get the justice and he shld deserve the strict punishment.
Yes the law should!
Same
I also used to be fan of him but not anymore after what he did.... Also I wasn't his fan because of EXO but because of his acting. I'm also from India and now I'm ashamed to say I was his fan. The girl should get her justice!
These women were brave to come forward. Hoping their stories help others (regardless of gender/ expression of gender/ age, etc) also come forward. We can only end these crimes when we no longer support "locker room talk", harassment, and thoughts that anyone has a right to your body.
I know this may roll slow I'm China, but the world is watching...
You are right. I think their stories are helping others and giving women confidence to come forward. Just today, female employees working for alibaba came forward with rape & sexual misconduct allegations against the higher ups of the company
Nah it will never completely end it. The sort of people who do these things are sociopaths or psychopaths, often lacking empathy. I think most people are decent and wouldn't do that sort of thing.
Women? Girls.
Even if this is proven false he will NEVER live a normal life, there was reportedly even Chinese people tracking Kris Wus house trying to paint it, throw eggs at it etc. Janice Wu an old costar of his has been getting bashing hate simply for being in a drama from kris, if an old costar of his is getting that much hate then i dont think Kris is a walk in the park for his mess. No label dares to sign him, all his sponsors dropped him, numerous celebrities have unfollowed him, an Chinese actress name Shen Yue even unliked all his post. This is literally the #1 talk in China right now and is probably the talk in every friend group im China. I hope if its false he doesnt dare even come back to the Entertainment industry to take a mental health break for like FOREVER, and if its true i hope he rots in prison.
He is not coming back, coz he is going to jail🤣. Even if he didnt, he is already blacklisted in chinese industry. Zheng Shuang didnt even go to jail, but still under blacklist. So, zero hope for him.
If it's false then why don't u want Kris Wu to come back to entertainment industry?? He is a victim then nd the girl should get the punishment...are you ppl just simply hates him or want the real victims to be to get justice???
@@btsfanfics6939 did you not read my comment dude? I said he shouldnt come back to take a mental health break...your ignorance is bliss
@@btsfanfics6939 actually, chances of him being innocent is low. First, he is a canadian, for the chinese police to arrest him, they need strong evidences. The fact that he is even arrested shows that they already have strong evidence against him. Second, he no longer has strong capitalist to protect him, he is on his own. He also needs to pay huge sum of compensation to the big brands for the damage, so chances of him getting away with money is also low. The public are also very concern with this topic and following it closely. For now, chances of him being free is bleak🤷♀
@@wendyyy5573 from all the news reports that I hav seen there is a bigger story behind this incident like the girl was actually dating him infact she already had 2 more boyfriends/fling at that time...the victim kept on saying she will produce solid evidence on social media yet she never posted anything like that...also it was Kris Wu's mother who reported the girl first for blackmailing nd money extortion case...so the case does not seem very simple...I will stay neutral this time given how many times these idols nd celebraties got accused for sexual harassment by women which later went nowhere
Plus being in k-pop world for quite sometime, I know how much minor fans like 12-13 yrs girl cr@ves over 30 yrs old idols...I remember in one EXO concert one minor fan held up a placard saying "R@p€ me Suho" in a live concert nd Suho actually got angry seeing this
He was always a jerk to begin with. The way he left EXO without properly parting with fans and members, that's irresponsible. His members can't say good things about him even if they try. He's rude and cold to people too. Most importantly, he was never good at rapping, singing, dancing or acting.
Really how do you know ?you sleep with him before?
@@alexlee1501 did I say anything about sleeping with him? I say he's rude and can't sing, rap and dance. Don't tell me u fantasise about him sleeping with EXO members, that's disgusting
@@anneliselim602 you can dance you can sing?Why your x boyfriend dump you is it?why so serious 🧐
@@alexlee1501 has the standard go so low? A singer that can't sing. A rapper that can't rap, and a dancer that can't dance still get praised smh. Anyone can be an actor if he's the standard.
@@alexlee1501 u can't read, why are you out here commenting? Maybe you're on drugs like Kris Wu. You brought out this topic first
The people interviewed are replying intelligently to the questions asked of them.
Treat her like a Queen and she'll treat you like a King, treat her like a game and she'll show you how it's played.
Seriously that's the best quote I have ever read
Woahhhh!!!!
Hatts off
My life quote from now on!! Preachhhh
This quote fits the girl who exposed him so much
When he was a member of EXO (K-pop artists group), he committed a breach of contract with his agency and run away to China. He was able to become famous in China because of his activities in Korea. But he ignored his fans and started China activity as nothing had happened. Bad people never change. He deserves it.
Exactly it's his karma. I sincerely pray for the victims.
Inside goss online, he needed to give himself up to both male and female that either has resources in entertainment industry or big entertainment company executives. He is a play thing for power, and had to go two ways 😃😃😃😂
yeah, ppl never really talk about this and act as if he were "severely mistreated" but let's be honest. he just wanted to be a superstar in china so he just left the k-pop market. let's stop pretending like he still cares for the other members. ultimately he chose his solo career, as with luhan and tao.
Guys he’s officially arrested and the Chinese news on Weibo released the timeline of the whole situation
Sex scandals with the famous and rich is common. It happens with the poor as well. But we should learn to live morally and maintain decency.
This persuasion would work on epstein and his friends
Easier said than done in this world
This is my reliable source as usual. Kudos to Asian Boss Team once again for addressing this issue
14 is way too low! 19 should be the age. No offense but people still stupid and immature at 18.
"he used to freestyle, but now he only has style without the free"
"thought he was a rapper but didn't think he would be a r*per"
LOL THAT REPORTER IS SUCH A CHAD
Timestamp pls
@@Sueuhevffbcjjidis it wasn't in this video. It's another video of a news reporter covering the case. should i link it?
@@tapwater8357 pls do I need to see it😭
Stop being obssess to your idols. because u don't know what they're in real life
Not everyone is bad.
@@Naveenbr-kp8gc1yi3d and not everyone is good either.
@@foottoast4235 Yeah. That's what I meant .
Sana is a real angel though
So there's actually more to the story. Apparently there was a guy pretended to be the victim to negotiate with Kris Wu's team to ask for money, and later the same person pretended to be Kris Wu's team to talk to victim to scam her money as well. Kris Wu's mom then reported to the police as she thought the victim was blackmailing Kris, and didn't realize that was the scammer's doing. Eventually it turned backfire to Kris as police started to investigate his sexual harassment and he got arrested.
Now he is called Toothpick Wu in China
Toothpick? Can you explain what it means?
is he really???
@@Yoarashi if i remember correctly, dmz's post also included a recount of how toothpick wu likes to brag about his size ("it's big, bear with it"), but it's actually very small. Like toothpick.
@@emzelfc8859 100% correct
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
3:37 "This kind of incident in China is really...just unacceptable."
Girl, it's not acceptable anywhere in the world, not even on Mars :/
LMAO, for sure
You never know on Mars, but for ther rest of the world yes
拜登还当总统了呢
In China he would pay and be completely banished of the industry in other countries with enough power and money some delinquents accused of rape can come back and have a career, meanwhile All things related to his career has been already be erased, his music, his shows, his media profiles, his fan clubs, this is what she means with it
@@jenlolo8902 Then I hope all the countries establish such laws for the people who are accused of rape and erase things related to their whole career in history; even Martians should enable these regulations.
most celebrities are different infront of the screen and off screen. they are not as innocent and kind as other ppl think they are. there are so many celebrities that are super disgusting that has not yet been exposed because ppl are too afraid to speak up about it.
By a weibo user: guards, be careful. He has a toothpick to jailbreak.
😂got you....
Damm 👻
😭😭
I dont get you 😅
@@S_M_456-c8n No worries, let me share the backstory with a bit of other details.
DMZ's posts revealed many things, including how Toothpick Wu and his team forced her to drink, and Toothpick took the chance to have sex with her (which due to the lack of consent, should be called rape), how many other girls (including underage ones) contacted her after her first wave of posts to share about their similar experiences, how Toothpick and his team tried to get the names of those girls from her, how his team tried to set her up etc.
And then, in one post she shared about Toothpick bad mouthing his celebrity "friends" and his other non-criminal behaviors. He also allegedly liked to brag about his size, going "it's big, bear with it". She wrote that it's actually small like toothpick.
I know this is random but even when he was in Exo I never could get “close” to him and like him. I came in during their Monster phase and when I was learning the members I heard he left with the others and I low held a grudge against him since he left without saying anything and hurt his other members it just seemed very selfish to me. I don’t hate the other 2 that left for some reason I guess because I could see they still missed their members but to him it seemed like he didn’t want anything to do with them. Please don’t jump down my throat about my opinion I just thought I would finally get it off my chest.
Hello, former exo fan here since their debut. The issue with Kris is that he signed with sm to actually become an actor but they chose otherwise, thus not respecting the contract. They kept telling him he would start acting later. Also, The second issue is that some Korean members were ostracising the Chinese members, you can clearly see and hear some remarks from a certain member I won’t name, which created a weird tension between K and M. So this could actually explain why Kris left and kept his distance with the rest of the team. You could see he wasn’t happy during his whole exo career and I can understand why. He just felt he didn’t belong there.
@@cindydistasio4161 he wanted to be solo artist under sm and he was a rookie idol in exo from sm. I dont think he signed as an actor with sm back then
Exactly, I never felt he wanted to be there that's why delusional ot12s shock me
@@cindydistasio4161 he wasn't never signed as an actor, we could even read his contract, and sm focus is always idols, that sounds like one the lies that were spread when he left exo saying he have have heart problems which magically disappear later on, the problem with members, you probably mean the member that shade him when he left, what you expect when the clown left then just a week before their first concert without saying anything, exo was in the middle of the overdose promo and have to adjust and redo parts of their concert because he left, he is now proved trash, and I never like him, I'm exo fan since 2013, I have not problem witn luhan and tao when they left, they always look more honest I know sm is not the best company, but the way he left and the lies spread about him and exo back then just prove what some people said that he have powerful people behind him since the beginning when he left and that's why he left, he then became a super start in China and now he will rot in jail
@@cindydistasio4161 He was never signed as an actor. If you look at it, he went to China and become a Singer first. He want to become a soloist.
EXO has a right to give some remarks, imagine leaving before their first concert? Who wouldn't annoy with it?
Age of consent 14 !! Like really??
When I was 14 I couldn't decide which flavor ice cream to choose 🙃
In Phillipines is 12
@@dani.7874 that's shocking....I hope soon there will be better laws ....tbh better people all around the world
and some of his fans are still supporting him, giving fake news that “he is innocent!” or smthg like that…. It’s just so ignorant tbh
In china hired fans is common
yeh i saw it on instagram. its disgusting
@@minha8821 They are on Twitter and this comment section too, with their innocence talks
@@cluo28 I saw his channel I agree with you
"Brightest stars have darkest shadows" is applicable to him
When Kris was a member of Exo, he's the only member that I don't like back then, I don't know why, while my favorite members were Luhan, Chanyeol, Suho, Sehun and Lay.
Same. He was my least favorite member in EXO-M
We never know about the others too. I don't appreciate most of them although the group and some songs sound nice but they have a whole company to make that happen. Now as people, I don't put my hands over fire for anyone I don't know and even knowing it has to be someone SUPER close.
Of course, back then he left EXO without saying anything 1 week before concert.. And the rest of member suffer a lot because of that..
Luhan is such a nice guy, I mean he suppose to be more famous than Kris, but he decided go public on he’s relationship at the peak of he’s career is just so cool, btw they are still together now and still sweet AF.
we all know that idols won’t make their relationship public. Not a fan of Luhan , but he’s just such a good guy.
Also Tao , such a good hearted person
Please interview Filipinos about the recent Nas Daily issue.
What happened? I used to be obsessed with Nas daily but I haven’t been keeping up.
@@sherku7858 Nas Daily may seem nice when you binge watch his videos but on off camera he was making fun of common people's life in village and also making fun of their language.
I saw it on twitter
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@@yogeshwaryadav1308 can you please share the said post? Or where can we find it
@@exi1424 asian theory made a pretty good video on it
it's sad because when a celebrity commits a crime it's such a big deal when it happens to everyone. thousands of people are victims of sexual harassment but they didn't get the justice they deserved.
Of course when celebrities commits a crime, it should be a big deal. They are role models for the society. They are the inspirations for many people especially youngsters. When they commit a crime it makes huge impacts. It even damages the reputation of others who he is involved with. So they have to be more careful and responsible than ordinary people.
@@talithasijo6441 i dont think you undeerstood the comment. From others standpoint its a celebrities wrong doing but from victims standpoint , they're all the same, r*pists... Every SA and r*pe victim should get justice. You dont know how much we actually go through.
Thank you Asian Boss for covering this!!
May be what they said or meant to say was lost in translation but "average people with average shortcomings" ??? I hope the average person is not a rapist and I hope they don't believe that rape is an average shortcoming ...
it's a translation mistake. someone commented it's supposed to be something like "average people with disgusting shortcomings"
a very icky translation mistake tho ngl 😬
People are so blind about celebrities instead of themselves. Let's be greatful for what we are and have.
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I have liked Asian artists since the 80s but was never blinded by them. They are human like us and have good and bad. Luckily most of the ones that I like seem to be pretty good people as I have liked them for over 30 years. I started liking them as a child and still love them til this day. Most of them did not disappoint me.
He’s officially been arrested now.
His crazy fans and these asiaboos will still defend him there's so much evidence but their still so blind
the cicadas sure are on fire these days...
Just like a sea star said:
" _Hero worship is unhealthy_ "
I think this interview was crucial for international audience since for my part when this whole story got out i didn't understand correctly the reports about it. Like for me up until yesterday the chinese police was trying to find evidence of his crimes but now i know that they already found it and are investigating further into it. So i'm like dang, just Hope there were not too many young women who falled victims to him, one is already unforgivable
Hmm... Don't trust anyone who looks and act cute and good only on the surface don't trust stage personality nowadays people fantasise about Idols especially the kpop trend but you should not believe whatever they show you, you don't know how they are in real life...you can be their fans but don't ever engrave in your mind that your idol is worlds best person with a humble personality you don't know how they are in real life they are idol not, God they are not your friends or relative that you can blindly tell that how they are in real life and how good they are...
Okay, some people are saying he is detained not arrested so okay I am not saying that he is wrong but the thing I wrote above makes 100% sense whether he is guilty or not.
Actually, you are absolutely correct.If the police detained a person with out a valid evidence,that's against the law right!So, in other words their is a valid evidence and proof about his case.And the same time,there are many celebrities involved about this matter especially drugs.I have seen somewhere out there his name is mentioned (he was one of the costar of ZLY) he was a senior celebrity.There are many celebrities involved but still investigating.
So, let us see who will be the next idol in the limelight.🤭🤗
@@gemskie5048 😼 yea you are right so let's see who is next 🤭 but really if he did wrong so he should get punishment also I feel bad for the girl...
@@junekafaltiya4514 Yeahh! I agree with you
@@gemskie5048 Also slowly the reality of the industry is coming out people who tied cloth in their eyes of the name of celebrities will now realise and so the saying "everything is good in a limit whoever crosses it has to pay" is true, implied to both celebrities and they're blind obsessed fans.
@@junekafaltiya4514 That's the reality.Maybe some fans are empty shells.😅😂🤣🤭
4:13 "average people with average shortcomings"
How can this be call average shortcomings?
Exactly he greatly minimized the severity of the crimes when he said that “average shortcomings”
No no. He was not referring to Kris, but more idols. They look gorgeous, but they are actually like average people, and have similar shortcomings.
恶习 (e xi) is not shortcoming, but disgusting shortcomings
It’s the problem with the translation.
@@2024-l9n Actually, what call my attention was that they said "average" people as if this is something common in the society. Like most of the people do this.
everyone in this interview was so eloquent and reasonable
I agree with you
this is why i hate getting easily attached to someone but I can't help it
Its hard when all you see of someone is positive messages, like they will only ever post footage of idols they have edited and made sure it's acceptable to consume. Pretty much anything is a lie to an extent, maybe not everything but tbh most. We know nothing about our celebrities of what kind of horrible things they are capable of, still go on stanning but keep it in mind I guess.
Do not focus on the positive aspects of a person, focus on the negatives, that'll shatter your rose colored glasses and helping you seeing the reality of things. If you like the negative side of him, then you'll love his postive side. In this case, Kris flushed his own career down the drain.
Same here.
@@ruinheart8769 not really helpful I would say.. it would be a negative way of seeing the life and might affect yourself
I always focus and look on the negative side of every person before but that ruined me so i tried to change it.(yes i hate getting easily attached but I'd rather see the positive side first)
Kris Wu's case is only about him feeling ENTITLED.
And I am disgusted that we made him feel ENTITLED.
I hate myself for liking such a person.
Don't feel so. We never knew what was going on behind the cameras. For me I admired his looks & was mostly the reason I became a fan of him. Even among his discography, I liked only 2 songs. Antares & Coffee. Yet I considered myself as his fan, but even I regret & feel disappointed now :/ I never expected him to be innocent or so, but this was really shocking to hear for me as r@pe isn't a joke. The celebrity industry in my country is pretty much corrupted, so I thought it'd be a bit different with other countries' celebs. Guess I was wrong. But anyways it's just kris I wouldn't gonna base all the chinese celebrity industry based on him, but I pray such disgusting celebs doesn't exist in the industry (and if they do then they should get rid of quickly)
@@devashrijoshi9079 so true .. 😭 I am doubting every other celebrity now
It’s not your fault, you should hate Kris wu and his entertainment company.
@@三囧-x7e true though
You know whats funny? If i would do a street inverview in my home country Germany i doubt anyone would give such reflected answers as you got here... Everyone seems to have thought a lot about the topic and knows how things are tied together. It's nice to watch such thoughtful answers.. Especially bc of this serious topic.
I didn’t know China had a Me Too movement also.
Only when it's someone the Government doesn't like or care about. A former K-Pop star? Definitely not on the fave list.
The Me Too movement in the US was started in the entertainment industry, whereas the movement in China was started by university students who were harassed by school staff or professors. At first the government blocked any mentioned of me too on weibo, but chinese users still managed to get around the censorship.
“Me too” has been in years for years.
@@2024-l9n I didn’t know this. Do you know where it started?
@@ParkerBG as the previous comment or said it started a yr later in universities with female students showing evidence of their teachers sexual harassing and assaulting them. It’s gaining traction again after zhu Jun a popular tv host has been taken to court by a previous intern who has accused him of forcibly kissing and groping her. Hopefully the movement will get stronger even through the countries censorship since it’s just as prevalent there as it is in western countries
This is Star syndhrom, big impact for his career...
his gonna be finished, start at Chines jail first...
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Kris Wu makes me feel sick knowing that he may have done those crimes, disgusting
If he hav not, will u feel the same disgust way for that girl?? Dont judge so soon...wait for the truth to come out ..bdw it was Kris Wu's mother who reported that girl to police for blackmailing nd extorting money from him
Stupid people are everywhere,don’t be bothered 😕
@@btsfanfics6939 If he has not that's another issue altogether, but nothing changes the fact that the evidence against him looks horrific.
@@btsfanfics6939 the Chinese police detained him because they have evidence
Exactly. :(
We really compare idols and actors to what they do in movies and what their character represents in a movie and we go on thinking "wow he saved a pregnant women's life by risking his own life in the movie"
And so we all think that actor is very nice but actually in real life they can be opposite...
Kris Wu's case has shook me to the core. And it's not only because I was mesmerized by him at the first place but because we don't know what type of people these idols are behind the scenes.
Any of our favorite could be doing the same thing and we would never know that we are supporting such a predator. Doesn't that scares you?
This can be the case with any person you know, see, meet. It's good to be aware of such a possibility. Still, it's good to keep your trust in people. We just have to move through pain if something bad happens and try to remedy the situation if we can, like, supporting victims and such
@@wellwell7429 you are so positive 💖 thank you but to be honest I am really shook. He disappointed us. 😞
I appreciate that Asian Boss always tries to focus on the issues in an unbiased way. I'm so tired of seeing other media outlets trying to influence people into believing that his alleged crimes were committed because he has Canadian citizenship and is technically a 'foreigner' in China. His citizenship has nothing to do with the crimes. If he is found guilty of these crimes, it won't be because of his citizenship, it will be because he's a bad person.
(Also, to be completely frank, the only thing Canadian about this man is his passport. According to his wikipedia page (so take it with a grain of salt) he was born in China as a Chinese citizen and he only lived in Canada for about 5-6 years between ages 10 and 17.)
Wow this is really shocking, cuz all this year im being a big fan of K-pop, even more EXO.
Im going to be more careful about who I admire these days starting by the pastor from the curch and the celebrities.
Good job! Me too
Do you have any idea how rampant sexual assault is in the kpop industry? If you like kpop then well you are watching and taking part of an industry that is riddled with abuse. And that includes the shoddy contracts that kpop singers have been signed to
@@DavidJohnson-dp4vv It's rampant in entertainment industry everywhere unfortunately, not just k-pop. Only difference is that they seem to be very good in sweeping most of them under the rug because of the way fan-services works in this culture.
There are lots of ex-trainees who are talking about it these days in youtube, so I think more people are getting aware of it.
Nothing wrong in being a fan, putting them on pedestal is the problem
ANYONE in the world should not be admired to the point of idolatry.
he left EXO 7 damn years ago!!!
if you wanna talk about Kris Wu just say his name don’t mention the boys f*ck this is getting frustrating
In movie Sweet Sixteen , kris Wu depicted a boy Xaimu who almost killed a man for raping a girl , ironically, in real life he himself was doing the same with so many girls ! Never expected him to be so cruel !
I clicked so fast....
I clicked faster than I’ve ever done
Same
It's totally okay to be a fan of celebrities. But it's also important to keep things rational and be willing to criticize them where necessary. I am a fan of a kpop group too, and like with almost every group there have been scandals (of course nothing as outrageous as this, if any of the people I stan were confirmed to have raped minors I would stop stanning), and I have taken to the "wait and watch". Whenever something happens I wait and see how it develops until I know more of the full picture and can form my own opinion. I don't blindly defend them nor hastily condemn them. I wait, see, and when I am absolutely sure about my own stance only then will I speak up about it. I think it's important to be open-minded to the possibility that you might have been wrong about who your favorite celebrities are as people. We don't know them. As long as you keep being aware of that and don't rush to scream "They are innocent!!!" the second a scandal comes to light it's fine to be a fan.
That being said, I was never an EXO fan, but I was active enough in the kpop scene in 2012-2016 to know about them and see their peak in popularity. And even as someone who only looks at them superficially I never really liked Kris. I don't know what it was but I tend to have severe cases of antipathy with some people without being able to pin it down. Most of the time I am right about those people (of course that doesn't mean I have to be or that everyone I don't have that feeling with is automatically a good person, but I never get surprised whenever I hear something like this about one of the people I didn't like in the first place).
Exo really ended up being lucky he ran back to China with this one.
exactly the moment i became an exol kris was never nvr had been my fav he had tht weird vibe and attitude
this is why stans esp kpop stans should stop infatilizing their idols or trying to keep them pure. theyre not. i have been a kpop fan for 10 years and i have seen more of these pure image delusion from the recent years due to younger fans coming in.
theyre not an angel, theyre humans. theyre like us, they have their hidden side of themselves. fanatic idolizing is really toxic as it hinders people to see which is right or wrong bc theyre using the person who did the crime as a base for their argument. the person who they idolize, bc they think they cant do such thing.
we have to wake up from this mindset. this is why some celebrities who did crimes think they can get away with it
Yeah ive been following kpop since 2006 and honestly im not sure ive ever seen 'fans' as delusional as ARMY. Its so disturbing.
@@penultimania4295 not all army's are like that there are matured one's too 😊
@@k....j1496 ikr
@@penultimania4295 one thing we know, bangtan can never do anything like that.
How do you know if someone is pure or not? Can you read their minds? It's absolutely possible that many are pure
This is what happened when millions of teenage girls fall for man that they don't even know, real life is not anything like in dramas.
Yes cuz they're young and naive
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please stop blaming the victims for idolizing a celebrity and getting in a bad situation, they did NOTHING wrong, Kris Wu is the only person we should be villianizing
@@rachelding5682 were u there ? Were you one of his victims if this news is true ? That girl can lie too . But yall shouldn't judge him this soon . If this news is true i believe he should get the punishment he deserves . But just wait till official news comes regarding this case.
I mean maybe I am saying this because I loved him since he was in exo . And he was a least expected one to do something like this but yall can't come at him when you don't know anything about him . Bruh- grow up . If this news comes as fake MAYBE HIS SITUATION WILL BE SAME AS OUR BELOVED SULLI
Glad to see overall these people seem to be on the side of the victim. It seems like in the US when this kind of story arises, the victim is often blamed and ridiculed by the media.
"Thought he was a rapper, didn't think he would be a raper. Free Style, now he has only style ,no more free (dom) " Lol
Chinese media really said that on national TV. 😂
Timestamp pls
@@Sueuhevffbcjjidis its not in this video. Just search up 'chinese news roast kris wu'
Some fans are indenial. If u can't accept it just be neutral. Its very unfair to the victims u know?
I don't really know what they meant when they say they are staying neutral about it. Does it meant not believe the victims regardless of the evidences
@@princessramonah21 It simply means to not take sides until hard evidence are provided and/or Kris is convicted of such claims. We've seen in the past where idols are accused by multiple people, which turned out to be false. There are still no concrete evidence provided by the Chinese government. It's all he said she said kind of evidence right now. Chats can easily be fabricated. Most people are just waiting for the Chinese judicial system to make a statement/conviction before picking a side. It is very easy to just read internet comments and buy into rumors.
@@EstablishedGentleman police can lie too and so that’s why I wanna wait until court
@@brennathecatlover4360 court can lie too, maybe prison can lie too and they can fake his death penalty 🤦🏾
@@basedbritannia I never defended him I’m just saying police can lie so I wanna wait till court
In these cases related with victims, normalize siding with victims first until the alleged proven innocent. This is because it is never easy for victims to come out and share it to the world especially when they are against a big name (as big name also have big power)
isn't it "innocent until proven guilty" ?
What needs to be proved is that he is guilty, not the other way around.
I'm not supporting him, he is more than likely guilty, I'm just pointing out the law.
i would be neutral but lean slightly towards the victims. because like you said, it’s hard for victims to come out and i wanna support the people who have lesser power. but i’m also not gonna blindly side with them until more information comes out.
@@manikantasrao7868 yes i know it is innocent until proven guilty in the law but in the cases that involved victims (rape/assault/harassment/bullying etc), i believe its important to side with victims so that cases can be taken more seriously. But do not throw hateful words to kris too as you said he is also innocent until proven guilty. I feel like we should support the victims more because it takes a huge courage to do so and it also mentally affect them too.
@@jbtfp Yes thats up to you. At least you still wanna have sides even just a slight. I also not 100% believe in them but for now im siding with them. I just hope people do not have neutral like dont care at all about the case. Because things like this involved justice, to the victims.
Don't normalize this kind of siding. although that in this scandal the victims alibi turned out to be true, there are so many "alleged fans" nowadays who make fake scandals just to bash a public figure and gain social media followers.
Don't get me wrong. I too wanted to adopt your way of thinking. It's hard to be rape victim. but the reality that so many people nowadays willing to make a fake drama for selfish reason. the wisest thing we do is to not taking any sides and leave the story unfold itself.
Giant applause for the brave girl who come forward with the accusations despite of him being a big celebrity 👏🏻👏🏻
Trust anyone without actually trusting!