I already knew this. But the stubborn man in me wanted to just use the factory locations. But later I would be complaining that I should have done what you recommend here in your video. Thank you. Because I consider you knowledgeable and credible , I will order some tweeter mounting pods, because I want that, and I have always wanted that amazing sound stage you describe in my vehicle. Thanks for this video and for showing examples and for reminding me how to aim them. I'm already subscribed, but I will add my thumbs up after posting this comment. Again, thank you.
More & more tweeters are being packaged with factory adjustable free-standing mounts. Even my inexpensive Power Acoustik NB4s came with them & they sound FANTASTIC.
I have installed those pods in my sons Impala. There really high quality! Lots of adjustability. I did get them through eBay. I’m hoping if my son sells his car. I’ll repo them and put them in my car. Another great share! Larry
Another good video….tweeter placement is a must! I have 2019 tacoma, i had customer sail panels done to house my tweets and it sounded so MUCH better than factory but when I had my custom A pillars done to house a 2.5 midrange and a tweet it took my soundstage to another level!! just by moving the tweeter and having more on axis tweeter placement
Do you just drill a small hole in the factory tweeter grill? Do you have to reinforce the grill at all due to the weight of the pod/tweeter? I have a 2011 Toyota Camry and am trying to use your best practice for a pair of Kenwood Excelon XR-1603HR.
Yes! They really have a great variety. We have used the ball joint mount as well, but visually for some clients, that is sometimes a harder sell. Which style did you go with? For what kind of car?
@@carstereochick I have a 2022 Nissan LEAF. I have put Dayton Audio RS265P drivers in the doors and will be adding the Focal TNB tweeters with a Kicker KEY200.4 amp in active crossover mode.
@@carstereochick This is my first time using DSP or anything like the little Kicker amp. 15 years ago I had a nice sounding system in a Camry: Focal coaxials in the dash with a Focal mini-sub under the seat driven by Audio Control non-DSP processing and 5 amp channels. At some point I will likely be thinking about subs for my LEAF, maybe a pair of Dayton Audio RS265HF 8 inch subs in stereo (yes!). I want something musical, not just thumpy.
That is a very deep rabbit hole with no simple answer, with the pods you can get swivels so they are adjustable, every driver is different some are best on axis, some are not, and to really understand how this is working in a car, you need Rta and a calibrated mic. Some common starting placements are on axis for driver, or aimed at opposite head rest, I have found to work well, the hybrids she is running here are fairly forgiving off axis, and have a pretty wide frequency , but only to a point, , and why her system sounded better than the hubbys. She was more in axis, this set works well on axis. I run hybrids myself in the same German cups, both mids and tweets, I run them all on axis, pointed at my ear, both sides, mid bass in the front doors, and a morel sub, no rear fill, all active with dsp. I have never owned a better sounding System, a different speaker may not be best on axis. Or it may? You never know till you know, one thing that is a constant though, having the ability to change angles is vital, to find out, the pods do this well, and after you find the best angle for that driver, in that car, then a custom A-pillar could be done and match the angles. Without spending a bunch on fab, only to find out it made phase or comb filter issues….sorry no simple answer exists.
So I have a dash location in my 11 Highlander that was made for some sort of 2 and 1/2 in or something crappy paper tweeter thing. It has like a thick layer of felt over it. It's almost with the distance from my ear and the 6x9 in the door playing full range. I was planning on putting a 3 or 4-in mid-range modified in the dash under the grill and a tweeter on top of the grill facing me. What is your opinion of the mid-range off axis reflecting from the windshield with the Tweeter on access right next to it?
The pods look clean, eliminate fab work, and work for Soundstage but I prefer moulded pods. I just think moulded pods look better when designed properly than prefab. Just my preference of course.
I've seen some extremely bad molded pods. Buyer beware. One negative to pods is they are very limiting in how much flexibility you have in aiming your speakers. This is a real problem if you are setting up the soundstage specifically for the driver.
Hello! I just ordered a set of these for a 3.5 Utopia WM and the TBM tweeter, I’m curious as to how long it took for them to come in? It’s been 7 days now and I’ve tried to email them for a check in and I haven’t heard anything back. I got the express shipping and my installer is wondering when they will come in. If you have any information that would be greatly appreciated! Wonderful video.
Whenever I order them I pay extra for faster UPS shipping, but even that usually takes about 10-14 days. If you use the regular shipping service it could be much longer.
You have to be patient. They are slow. Really slow, but eventually you will get your pods. Mine took about a month after placing my eBay order to get to me. Make sure you get all the hardware you're supposed to get. I got a set of mids/tweeters and they did not include the set screws for the tweeters. They're kind of slow to respond to mail, too, so keep that in mind.
Yeah, you know I have been itching to check out the new Rockford Jeep full system upgrade. Rockford is definitely a great quality brand, but we are such a small shop and I can only support so many brands. I have nothing against them. For my 1st system I had a Punch 250a2 and 12" ported box with a Punch subwoofer. That was back when they made everything in the USA!
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I already knew this. But the stubborn man in me wanted to just use the factory locations. But later I would be complaining that I should have done what you recommend here in your video. Thank you. Because I consider you knowledgeable and credible , I will order some tweeter mounting pods, because I want that, and I have always wanted that amazing sound stage you describe in my vehicle. Thanks for this video and for showing examples and for reminding me how to aim them. I'm already subscribed, but I will add my thumbs up after posting this comment.
Again, thank you.
I've looked all over for a tweeter mounting solution for my Jeep TJ. These are perfect. Thanks for posting.
I'm so happy you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.
More & more tweeters are being packaged with factory adjustable free-standing mounts. Even my inexpensive Power Acoustik NB4s came with them & they sound FANTASTIC.
Yes! I hope this becomes a trend.
I have installed those pods in my sons Impala.
There really high quality! Lots of adjustability. I did get them through eBay.
I’m hoping if my son sells his car. I’ll repo them and put them in my car.
Another great share!
Larry
Thanks Larry!
Another good video….tweeter placement is a must! I have 2019 tacoma, i had customer sail panels done to house my tweets and it sounded so MUCH better than factory but when I had my custom A pillars done to house a 2.5 midrange and a tweet it took my soundstage to another level!! just by moving the tweeter and having more on axis tweeter placement
Thanks Anthony! Yes, great point - if you're doing 3-ways it's so smart to mount them like that and get the mid as close as possible to the tweeter.
Do you just drill a small hole in the factory tweeter grill? Do you have to reinforce the grill at all due to the weight of the pod/tweeter? I have a 2011 Toyota Camry and am trying to use your best practice for a pair of Kenwood Excelon XR-1603HR.
So glad I watched this video... exactly what I've been needing and looking for. Thank you, great video !!
Thanks for watching!
I just got Valicar pods for Focal TNB tweeters. In addition to what you've shown, they have ball joints which allow precise aiming.
Yes! They really have a great variety. We have used the ball joint mount as well, but visually for some clients, that is sometimes a harder sell. Which style did you go with? For what kind of car?
@@carstereochick I have a 2022 Nissan LEAF. I have put Dayton Audio RS265P drivers in the doors and will be adding the Focal TNB tweeters with a Kicker KEY200.4 amp in active crossover mode.
Cool set up! Smart move on using such an ultra efficient amplifier with DSP processing built.
@@carstereochick This is my first time using DSP or anything like the little Kicker amp. 15 years ago I had a nice sounding system in a Camry: Focal coaxials in the dash with a Focal mini-sub under the seat driven by Audio Control non-DSP processing and 5 amp channels. At some point I will likely be thinking about subs for my LEAF, maybe a pair of Dayton Audio RS265HF 8 inch subs in stereo (yes!). I want something musical, not just thumpy.
So at which angle do I mount these tweeters?!
That is a very deep rabbit hole with no simple answer, with the pods you can get swivels so they are adjustable, every driver is different some are best on axis, some are not, and to really understand how this is working in a car, you need Rta and a calibrated mic. Some common starting placements are on axis for driver, or aimed at opposite head rest, I have found to work well, the hybrids she is running here are fairly forgiving off axis, and have a pretty wide frequency , but only to a point, , and why her system sounded better than the hubbys. She was more in axis, this set works well on axis.
I run hybrids myself in the same German cups, both mids and tweets, I run them all on axis, pointed at my ear, both sides, mid bass in the front doors, and a morel sub, no rear fill, all active with dsp. I have never owned a better sounding System, a different speaker may not be best on axis. Or it may? You never know till you know, one thing that is a constant though, having the ability to change angles is vital, to find out, the pods do this well, and after you find the best angle for that driver, in that car, then a custom A-pillar could be done and match the angles. Without spending a bunch on fab, only to find out it made phase or comb filter issues….sorry no simple answer exists.
@@chippsterstephens6800 sorry it took me forever to respond - I read your post and I appreciate the input
So I have a dash location in my 11 Highlander that was made for some sort of 2 and 1/2 in or something crappy paper tweeter thing.
It has like a thick layer of felt over it. It's almost with the distance from my ear and the 6x9 in the door playing full range.
I was planning on putting a 3 or 4-in mid-range modified in the dash under the grill and a tweeter on top of the grill facing me.
What is your opinion of the mid-range off axis reflecting from the windshield with the Tweeter on access right next to it?
The pods look clean, eliminate fab work, and work for Soundstage but I prefer moulded pods. I just think moulded pods look better when designed properly than prefab. Just my preference of course.
I agree molded pods look better, but also more $ too ;)
I've seen some extremely bad molded pods. Buyer beware. One negative to pods is they are very limiting in how much flexibility you have in aiming your speakers. This is a real problem if you are setting up the soundstage specifically for the driver.
Big thing in Uk, just not as pleasant in car. Competition SQ maybe?
Hello! I just ordered a set of these for a 3.5 Utopia WM and the TBM tweeter, I’m curious as to how long it took for them to come in? It’s been 7 days now and I’ve tried to email them for a check in and I haven’t heard anything back. I got the express shipping and my installer is wondering when they will come in. If you have any information that would be greatly appreciated! Wonderful video.
Whenever I order them I pay extra for faster UPS shipping, but even that usually takes about 10-14 days. If you use the regular shipping service it could be much longer.
You have to be patient. They are slow. Really slow, but eventually you will get your pods. Mine took about a month after placing my eBay order to get to me. Make sure you get all the hardware you're supposed to get. I got a set of mids/tweeters and they did not include the set screws for the tweeters. They're kind of slow to respond to mail, too, so keep that in mind.
Hi! What is the best position to install rear tweeters in a sedan? Thanks
You can order them on eBay as well.
All different models and brands except Rockford Fosgate. 😒
Yeah, you know I have been itching to check out the new Rockford Jeep full system upgrade. Rockford is definitely a great quality brand, but we are such a small shop and I can only support so many brands. I have nothing against them. For my 1st system I had a Punch 250a2 and 12" ported box with a Punch subwoofer. That was back when they made everything in the USA!
Cool