I mean, it can be considered a lament *and* a ballad. The only requirement for a lament is that the tone is one of grief, regret, or sorrow. Someone lamenting. Noel regrets what quote unquote "could have been". If we take it this way, he could be saying what he could've been had his community been accepting, he wouldn't need to wish he were a female or see himself as dirty or overly sexualized for his gayness. Or alternatively, what could have been if he *were* a woman, because he could then love shamelessly. And a ballad is usually just a slow song, written in short stanzas. I will also add that most traditional ballads were written by unknown authors, just passed down through generations by mouth. This ties in with Jane Doe being, well, a Jane Doe. She's the unknown author of her ballad. So you're sorta right, but I think the titles of it being Noel's Lament and The Ballad Of Jane Doe have more meaning than that.
They both sound like Laments. Ballads seem to be mostly about a lover and they sound less bitter. The most modern example of ballads are Korean ballads. This has love as a side story and has a bitter "ah what if" vibe. Where's the love?
[Broken Heart A Flask of Gin Tattooed with a Safety Pin Teeth all Stained with Nicotine Running Nylons Shattered Dreams Super Crusty Holy Terror Wild Eyes and Black Mascara] I never would've heard this without lyrics but now I can't unhear it
this reminds me of the detailed dream i keep having where i live life as a circus performer. i don't remember my name or what i looked like, all i remember about my appearance is wearing a diamond-shaped, white mask(that slightly exposed my mouth) and having dark brown hair. i remember it all so vividly, it hurts. i used to perform on the wheel of death, doing flips, arial silks. i remember laughing with the other performers, going for a drink after a particularly big show. i remember it all. i remember meeting a fangirl after the show, she reached for my mask, 'not yet', is what i remember saying. i had a good life, and then i woke up in the body of a disabled teenager. it hurts. i cant wait to go back to sleep.
Noel would have been obsessed with those turny twisty wattpad fictions and surreal books, or some good old murder mystery wattpad. ( Also in my opinion i think wattpad is way better then AO3 since wattpad has more funny books, and commenters, no offense AO3 user. )
It’s certainly better for more fics that feature discussion amongst readers and writers but it’s become such a trial to dig through. AO3 beats it due to all of Wattpads dang adds
@@aabattery9815 yeah, the adds in wattpad are hella annoying. but i guess ive gotten so use to wattpads lay out, that ao3 just looks weird to me. also since ao3 feels a lot of cramped then wattpad
i feel like ao3 it’s easier to find something you like and the word counts are usually longer, the longest I found on wattpad for each chapter was about 1000 words and ao3 beats that by like ten fold and it feels like more of an author-reader connection too infact one of my closest friends I met through ao3 and tehy were an author so… idk, when it comes down to its personal preference at this point so whatever is better 4 u is the one u should read
@@unholyamountofsugar4940 I completely understand. Im more into short chapters or small one shots. But i get your point. Just whatever writing/reading app we find first is what we are more comfortable with and thats totally acceptable. I understand if you liek some parts about AO3 better, its just what your preference is. But just pointing out i have seen where theres a lot of author-reader stuff. Like one of my favorites the tea cult, or where someone does news about whats happening and chats with the readers. But in all fairness your, is your choice, also just pointing out again i have seen some pretty long chapters on wattpad. But do whatever you want!
The way the voice perfectly fits the Man in the picture. I clicked on this coz I love mimes and clowns. It's hard to find songs that are not classical music befitting the sad clown aesthetics. Does anyone know who the person is in the picture.
Ok but who is the clown in the background? I have a phobia of clowns (I forgot the term). But the picture gives me an eerie good feeling I cannot explain, with all the make up, facial expressio, the hair and the lighting pleases me aesthetically. Omg I'm so weird 😭
firsstt of all i got that clown picture from pinterest so i dont really know who it is :) andd secondly i dont think that ur weird i mean i also have a really big phobia of spiders but the tiny ones doesn't scare me that much :)) and this clown DOES look impressive so its quite understandable :)
@@rhythmofghost I don't like spiders either... btw I've found his Instagram with the help of google lens and Pinterest (I have to), freaking OCD. It's the only clown that doesn't scare me, and thank you for using it ^__^
First time listener and boy this song is really dark😅. Im guessing this is a play about an insane man who has split personality disorder. I like the chorus part bc of tik tok and youtube shorts and grew curious but now im kinda sorry i searched it😅.
actually no, i’m not sure if you decided to look up anything about the play afterwards but the play is actually about six highschoolers who died on a roller coaster and end up in a warehouse with a fortune teller machine that can bring one of them back to life :3
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"In my dreams i played a different role"
"A hooker with a heart of black charcoal"
"I was... Monique Gibeu in post-war France"
“ A hooker with a heart of black charcoal"
“A hooker… with a heart of black charcoal.”
@@trashking471 "a hooker with a heart of black charcoal..."
This isn't a lament, its a ballad
The ballad of jane doe is a lament
The titles are based off of what they WANTED their songs to be!!
I mean, it can be considered a lament *and* a ballad. The only requirement for a lament is that the tone is one of grief, regret, or sorrow. Someone lamenting. Noel regrets what quote unquote "could have been". If we take it this way, he could be saying what he could've been had his community been accepting, he wouldn't need to wish he were a female or see himself as dirty or overly sexualized for his gayness. Or alternatively, what could have been if he *were* a woman, because he could then love shamelessly. And a ballad is usually just a slow song, written in short stanzas. I will also add that most traditional ballads were written by unknown authors, just passed down through generations by mouth. This ties in with Jane Doe being, well, a Jane Doe. She's the unknown author of her ballad. So you're sorta right, but I think the titles of it being Noel's Lament and The Ballad Of Jane Doe have more meaning than that.
They both sound like Laments. Ballads seem to be mostly about a lover and they sound less bitter. The most modern example of ballads are Korean ballads. This has love as a side story and has a bitter "ah what if" vibe. Where's the love?
Oh, how Noel would have loved Wattpad fanfiction.
Indeed 😔
Hes an AO3 guy imo
For real the song is my fav
I have seen u commented that on so many videos of this song. I love u for that
@@slushiif0x Uhh what?
This song is completely chaotic and i love it. It's dramatically good.
Rip Noel you would have loved Wattpad fanfiction you will be missed
Wait is he dead 💀💀??
@anand6999 the whole musical is about them being dead and trying to see who deserves a second chance
he'd read the real depressing angsty dramatic shit he'd have loved it
@@vitamurs866 Now, would you recommend it? I wanted to see the musical
@@thiscrazystuff3274 it’s called ride the cyclone
Singing this non-stop for the last week😩
[Broken Heart
A Flask of Gin
Tattooed with a Safety Pin
Teeth all Stained with Nicotine
Running Nylons
Shattered Dreams
Super Crusty
Holy Terror
Wild Eyes and Black Mascara]
I never would've heard this without lyrics but now I can't unhear it
voice, singing technique, music are amazing, i have searched for his another performances or songs
RIP Noel Gruber you would've love Will Wood
CORRECT.
YOU THINK JUST LIKE ME MAN
Ur so real for that
HE WOULD THO
Fr😆
4:30 MY GOSH THE VOCALSSS
That's my fav part OMG
@@perple_foxd37 u replied to this like a year later and brought me back to this masterpiece
@@they.love.claire your welcome 🤗
Also I was asleep
Rip noel you would've loved angel dust
NO HE WOULDVE PLUS STOLAS PROBABLY
rip noel you wouldve loved the dresden dolls
I love Noel's voice sm
I FEEL this song bro
Same
this reminds me of the detailed dream i keep having where i live life as a circus performer. i don't remember my name or what i looked like, all i remember about my appearance is wearing a diamond-shaped, white mask(that slightly exposed my mouth) and having dark brown hair. i remember it all so vividly, it hurts. i used to perform on the wheel of death, doing flips, arial silks. i remember laughing with the other performers, going for a drink after a particularly big show. i remember it all. i remember meeting a fangirl after the show, she reached for my mask, 'not yet', is what i remember saying. i had a good life, and then i woke up in the body of a disabled teenager. it hurts. i cant wait to go back to sleep.
you should start writing a book about it
rip noel you wouldve loved will wood
he would of tho
im cofnsed when did he die and whos will wood
in ride the cyclone- is when he died-@@they.love.claire
He wouldve lol
this video ,including the comment section, is just a piece of art.
Please come to terms with ash's death, if it makes you feel any better he's at peace now in a happy afterlife with skipper and shorter
Such a pretty song. Perfectly describes my mental images when listening to music
I LOVE THE LONG "girl" AT THE ENDDD
Goodbye “Smoke It Off!” I now like Noel’s Lament-Kholby Wardell now! 💙❤️
Help what how is this happened to me too I liked Smoke it off! Last week
i love smoke it off
So good I wish france was real
i NEED songs like this
and I WILL post songs like this
Noel would have been obsessed with those turny twisty wattpad fictions and surreal books, or some good old murder mystery wattpad. ( Also in my opinion i think wattpad is way better then AO3 since wattpad has more funny books, and commenters, no offense AO3 user. )
It’s certainly better for more fics that feature discussion amongst readers and writers but it’s become such a trial to dig through. AO3 beats it due to all of Wattpads dang adds
@@aabattery9815 yeah, the adds in wattpad are hella annoying. but i guess ive gotten so use to wattpads lay out, that ao3 just looks weird to me. also since ao3 feels a lot of cramped then wattpad
i feel like ao3 it’s easier to find something you like and the word counts are usually longer, the longest I found on wattpad for each chapter was about 1000 words and ao3 beats that by like ten fold and it feels like more of an author-reader connection too infact one of my closest friends I met through ao3 and tehy were an author so… idk, when it comes down to its personal preference at this point so whatever is better 4 u is the one u should read
@@unholyamountofsugar4940 I completely understand. Im more into short chapters or small one shots. But i get your point. Just whatever writing/reading app we find first is what we are more comfortable with and thats totally acceptable. I understand if you liek some parts about AO3 better, its just what your preference is. But just pointing out i have seen where theres a lot of author-reader stuff. Like one of my favorites the tea cult, or where someone does news about whats happening and chats with the readers. But in all fairness your, is your choice, also just pointing out again i have seen some pretty long chapters on wattpad. But do whatever you want!
@@howlinghallow6931 this is the most respectable conversation I’ve had in a TH-cam comment section ily man (platonic)
That end tho it’s like a angel sang it HOT DAMM WOOO 4:31
perfect i love it your channel is perfect i follow you with pleasure
this song is giving the tv show series of unfortunate events.
This sounds amazing 🌊
All's wattpad Lament - Wattpad user who don't have what they want (Lyrics)
oh noel, how you would’ve loved hrt
rip noel gruber you would’ve loved moral orel
The way the voice perfectly fits the Man in the picture. I clicked on this coz I love mimes and clowns.
It's hard to find songs that are not classical music befitting the sad clown aesthetics.
Does anyone know who the person is in the picture.
Well i found the picture in Pinterest with no tag :)) So i don't think its a certain person.
The vocals impress me
Never would have imagined to hear uranium city is Saskatchewan 😭
I've never listen to a song with that focus I never studied like that! I am ufffff
I clicked on this because I thought I might've known it, I do but not the whole thing and who is Noel they sounds like they would love fanfiction
Rip Noel you would've loved lana del ray
The most beautiful chaotic song ❤
I love this song so much ❤❤❤
I SING UNTIL THE BREAK OF DAWNNN
Love this song ❤😊
This songs will be very popüler in the Future
The image where you looked for it is good
if you text chaotic pictures to the search section in pinterest u can find photos like this :)
@@rhythmofghost Oh thanks hehe I was going to ask if it was from Pinterest anyway
I love this sm
Amazing ❤
I worked at toco bell toco bell💀💀💀
I hate how related i'm to this song
Came here from a poly ai ad on TH-cam shorts using this song
4:00 to 4:57 on speed 1.5 is wonderful
He so bbg fr
((Ricky is bbg too))
❤❤❤❤❤this song so good 😊😊
“Who worked at Taco Bell in saskatchewan”
I have died of laughter, then the neighbour was so annoyed and got her pretty knife, and stabbed me
I feel this song so much yall
But if you do,please mention that I'd like to have returned the pretty knife,....
Nice music
4:00 OML!!
I don’t know why at all but this song reminds me of Ze mole/Christopher from South Park
"i think im in love with you" Ive heard that lie many times before
Oh, tonight I give into the fantasy
Take love when you can when you're whore
If I got to write American Girl Doll backstories:
1:07
This is so Valentino coded
Casi me quezo sin oxigeno cantandolo XD pero me salio 👍
beautifully chaotic
01:21 can anyone tell me which style he is singing cuz I love this classic style
I feel like I can see angle dust singing this song
Relate
'' l was ... monique gibeu in post-war 🤣🤣🤣
wheres the backround from?
pinterest :)
Ok but who is the clown in the background? I have a phobia of clowns (I forgot the term). But the picture gives me an eerie good feeling I cannot explain, with all the make up, facial expressio, the hair and the lighting pleases me aesthetically. Omg I'm so weird 😭
firsstt of all i got that clown picture from pinterest so i dont really know who it is :) andd secondly i dont think that ur weird i mean i also have a really big phobia of spiders but the tiny ones doesn't scare me that much :)) and this clown DOES look impressive so its quite understandable :)
@@rhythmofghost I don't like spiders either... btw I've found his Instagram with the help of google lens and Pinterest (I have to), freaking OCD. It's the only clown that doesn't scare me, and thank you for using it ^__^
1:02
1:18 - 1:19
2:15
4:01
Nice
Is this song in any musical? If it is, i would love to know the name, please
This song is from the musical 'Ride the Cyclone', if you haven't found it already!
@@ronnie6244 Thank youuu!
lol let’s not talk about the trend i just randomly started and just continued bc why not😂😂
0:57
4:24
Patrick Bateman 😢
3:46
Wow🤙🏻
🤙
🤙🏾
where is sad clown pic from
from pinterest
if you text "chaotic photos" in the search section, you'll find photos like this
Damnnn⛓
I do
1:06
4:30
First time listener and boy this song is really dark😅. Im guessing this is a play about an insane man who has split personality disorder. I like the chorus part bc of tik tok and youtube shorts and grew curious but now im kinda sorry i searched it😅.
i think the song is kinda entertaining though :)
@@rhythmofghost I just wish it wasn't so foul of mouth tho 😂
actually no, i’m not sure if you decided to look up anything about the play afterwards but the play is actually about six highschoolers who died on a roller coaster and end up in a warehouse with a fortune teller machine that can bring one of them back to life :3
@@danganronpa-despair-club ah..... that's weird.
Girl ain’t no mf way this came on shuffle and I thought it was dead and gone by t.i
kenneth Chase much? No? only me? lol
Reyhan ablaaaaaaaa❤❤❤❤❤❤
cicegiiiim
ТАК ВОТ ОТКУДА ОРИГИНАЛ ЭТОЙ ПЕСНИ..
Where’d you get the background?
From pinterest!
@@rhythmofghost Ohh ok!
💖⛓😌
⛓💖👀
Whats the song meaning?
He's telling his life trough a song. Listen to the lyrics and try to understand
Ty@@ashlleynichole2699
The musical its from is about 6 teenager dying and singing about their lives, dreams or who they wanted to be. He’s singing about his dream.
Snuu emujin
4:00 is when the famous part starts btw (this is for me im lazy to skip though to imagine myself in an edit 😘)
💖🥂
the transness leaving my body as I sing that I want to be that fucked up girl
why the are comments sayin' RIP? is the singer dead or smth?? sorry if I sounded rude or offending but I just don't know what is going on here....
There’s a joke going around that goes along the lines of “RIP *insert person here* you would have loved *insert modern day thing*”
The character died. This is from the musical Ride the Cyclone, and all the teen characters, including the one who sings this, are dead, hence "RIP."
Jane doe lived, everyone ded
Live laugh ligma 😜😜😝😝😘😘😘🥰🥰😍😍😍‼️‼️⁉️⁉️⁉️
Hh
Ew
Oh this song is a heavenly as it's gates and as devilish as it's fire
watching this while drinking starry with crushed ice this hits HARD
1:18
3:48