I have been a citizen of WA for all my 70 years. I have also been a white sport fisher since birth. As a teenager in the 1960" I remember the wars on the Puyallup and Nisqually Rivers. I heard all the rascist arguments about "Indians ruining fish resources".. White s would not see the truth in front of them that our good old white purse seiners were catching all the fish that logging didn't kill. The war was pure old American rascism by us European interlopers over the people who were here first. Thanks for the great effort to tell a story that all should know about!
Those comments continue that to this day. I dont know how many times I've heard comments about the netting on the chehalis or willapa and people blaming that for the reason for the shit salmon runs the last few years
I want to thank you for this amazing channel you have created. I am Native American my tribe is in Alaska and Canada. I wasn’t raised with my tribes or with any knowledge about being native until jr high school due to the fear from my family of the prejudice against PNW Indians. Today I am not only working within the tribal communities but my daughter and I listened to your videos everyday on the way to school . I plan on going back to the UW this next year and adding the American Indians Bachelors degree to my educational background. This information is so important for everyone to know and understand. Thank you 😊
Thank you for your kind words. I always appreciate getting comments like this. I’m very excited for your journey of reconnecting, and I commend you for all your efforts. My partner is Indigenous Hawaiian and she grew up pretty disconnected from her heritage for the same reasons as you, but is working to reconnect, so I understand what that’s like. I’m excited for what the future has in store for you and your family!
This is great! I’m in Fairbanks, and my ANS (Alaska Native Studies) classes gave me a great sense of how much Alaska Natives and Native Americans had to fight a war for their way of life. I am grateful to live on Denaii land, and to have the privilege to live here. I wish more Americans would understand better the rights and responsibilities that come with our Indigenous treaties.
Thanks! I’m always down for resource suggestions. Could you shoot me an email with a picture of your library? Or however would be easiest for you. My contact info is under the about tab.
as a great plains indian i am in some tribal treaty classes at my tribal college and we talk about much of the same topics much of the work is learning about our tribal constitution and how it intersects with the federal policy at the time makes me hopeful to see my classmates and tribespeople actively educating ourselves about such modern issues and historical context of our past
another big discussion in our class is how our tribal institutions have evolved and flaws that they’ve developed as a result of our experience with assimilation it’s interesting stuff for sure
At the schools I attended growing up classmates who lived on the Suquamish and Port Gamble Sklallam reservations had family members arrested, harassed every year when the salmon were running. Judge Boldt was courageous handing down the decision that called for the State of Washington to honor the treaties regarding fishing. Slade Gordon, the Washington State prosecutor arguing against tribal rights was a scion of a family who had business interests in commercial fishing. He seemed to make it his mission to vilify the natives. To the north in BC the 1st Nation's still to this day don't have the support of laws guaranteeing access to their traditional resources
Incredibly well done video- you could teach a college course on PNW indigenous history. You deserve way more subscribers, please keep up the great work
I'm a native American from the north west on the Canada side. This was so inspiring! I had a strong feeling that something like this happened to my people, it was so scary how accurate I was though 😢 it's great that we actually had the courts on our side. However, there's a hunch I have that it can be the pill that poisons us. Just because we are now part of the market, does not mean that the resources extraction method will change. It just means that native get their fair share of the resources. There needs to be a system in play to keep both parties from over fishing. If not the big corporations will utilise the natives relaxed regulations to exploit the desired resources. almost like a corporate cold war. I feel like it's just around the corner with all the green regulations.
I came across some articles in researching this video with the exact same concerns. Eventually I’ll do a follow up video that goes more in detail into the Boldt Decision’s aftermath and we’ll explore this in more depth.
I think you're right. And they keep getting people emotional and blinded with all the crap in the news. People need to stop paying so much attention to that, study some history and act accordingly! Most people don't know that American Indians/Alaska Natives were not recognized as citizens of the United States until 1924.
I'm a descendant of PatKanim, who signed the Treaty of Point Elliot on behalf of our tribe. I'd love to see an episode dedicated to the notable chieftains of local tribes! Incredible work, really good to hear more conversation about washington state history and pacific indigenous history
When my union UFCW was on strike, my dad would talk to any Native Americans that might feel a need to cross the picket line (not a point against those who just wanted to get some groceries. We were on strike in 89 in Marysville by the Tulalup Tribe) about the Boldt decision. I knew it was a good thing but it was never explained to me. (My fault as I never asked for further clarification) Thank you for the long overdue history lesson. My dad would be proud of the work you put into this and I’m sure would be happy his daughter is finally learning some of our local history, as horrible as it is. I respect the Native American People and it’s good to have some knowledge of the history so that when people do say untruths (to put it nicely) I have a leg to stand on in their defense.
TBH I don't remember ever being so mad over a TH-cam video... although maybe my memory is poor. I had no idea the state gov'ts of WA and OR had been so awful on this front (though I wasn't surprised to hear it). Wondering if in your research you came across any resources that discussed similar action in California? Am a CA resident, and at least some of what you discuss in this video applied here as well, especially tribes being affected by dam construction. Both where I grew up and where I live now have indigenous communities hugely impacted by dams (Shasta Co - Winemmem Wintu flooded out by Shasta Dam / Humboldt Co - Yurok fisheries devastated by dams on the Klamath). Would like to educate myself on similar policies & history here. Great video, looking forward to seeing more from you!
California is woof, it’s got some heavy stuff. It’ll be a minute before I’ve got much Cali content, but in the meantime it sounds like you’re in Nor Cal. A good book for that region is called Ka’m-t’em: A Journey Toward Healing by Kishan Lara-Cooper and Walter Lara Sr. You can probably find it online but I got my copy at Humboldt Redwood State Park. It’s a collection of essays and interviews with local Nor Cal Indigenous people, mostly from the coastal areas like Yurok, Hoopa, and such. A bit dense and academic at times, but invaluable perspectives.
I lived in WA. state for about 25 years in the 80s and 90s and read many of the names in this history - Judge Boldt, Mr. Sohappy . I even once went to a PowWow around Seattle. But I learned so much more from your wonderful doco. Thank you so much. I'm always surprised somehow to see the racist culture of so many of us "whites." I remember observing the unembarrassed racism of "white" culture on display in the Seattle newspapers towards the Makah tribe when they decided to enforce their treaty rights. Thanks for your excellent production, Indigenous History Now.😁
An excellent show! Very well done. So glad I happened on your work this year. This filled in a lot of details on events I have followed over the years. I was intrigued by the section on Fort Lewis. Throughout my life I have driven through it on the main highway and on secondary roads to go from Oregon to the Seattle area.Was also there for basic training in 1967 after being drafted into the army. I had never known the land was primarily taken from the Nisqually tribe. This should be seen by everyone in the Pacific Northwest, to get a lot of our heads straight after being raised with fictions about our indigenous hosts and neighbors.
I just moved to Suquamish a few years ago and have since tried to learn a little more about the area since I’m from an area closer to Mt. Rainier and was ignorant of a lot of this history. I’m surprised at how little is online and how difficult it is to pull all this information you’ve gathered together. I really appreciate your videos and I hope you continue. Yours really are the best I’ve been able to find. Such a sad history but I’m very glad to be learning from your videos. thank you
wow. that was magisterial in its scope. my initial reaction until about 50 minutes in was to say, "ah capitalism...lovely system isn't it?" which is sort of my standard response to the "little" people being steamrolled by the fat rich (usually white) men who have their fingers in all our pockets.... but then you transitioned to what I suppose could be called the "modern era" of indigenous-white relations...and I got successively more and more angry. just in time for the Boldt decision. one man. if it had been another judge? who knows what might have been the outcome. that it came down to *one* man is disgusting. and typical of how this system "works". ps: I'm ok with whatever length you feel you need to make your content to get across the concepts, ideas and information, you feel are important. you do it very well and I can imagine the amount of time you have taken to research, write and record is an order of magnitude greater than what we get to see and listen to. thank you.
Really incredible work. Love the channel and what you've made so far. Mostly posting the comment for the sake of the algorithm. This needs way more views! Living on unceded Coast Salish territories in "canada" rn and learning a lot about this region and how these struggles continue today. Keep up the good work!
This is great, love how in depth it was. I knew a bit about this from having visited the Billy Frank Jr. Nisqually National Wildlife Refuge a few times, but this helped fill in a lot of gaps.
No surprise. Here’s another example of state government covering up their criminal activity in school textbooks. 11/10/1898 Wilmington NC. Long story short, state legislature changed some laws which gave local KkK, the “legal” means to pull off an insurrection. Wilmington back then, was like Black Wall Street, 60% of the town ran by black folks. Anyway, former confederate soldiers and commanders murdered off mass black elected city officials if they didn’t resign and or voluntarily exile themself. Anyway, up in till the late 40’s,books said blacks rioted and the “new” Government installed for the insurrection had to restore order. Story goes, immediatly right after the magistrate signed off making official, they all marched straight to the local armory, grabbed the weapons and belt fed machine gun they had, started murdering blacks in the streets like it was the famous West Hollywood bank robbery shootout or something.
I wonder who's been overfishing since... You don't even need to guess. The fact that we have "Fresh Alaskan" fish subscription boxes is enough to tell you who... it makes me sick. American Indians and Alaskan Natives are disproportionately displaced when it comes to hunting and gathering their traditional foods. It's gotten better, but it's not and never could be how it was. The Natives were living in harmony with nature. The colonizers had to monetize it... Whenever some tourist asks about fishing spots, I laugh out loud. The fish wars wage on.
Hey great video. Super useful to know about the specific outcomes of specific cases regarding tribal/state relations, the context of the fish-ins, some significant events during the fish-ins, the white backlash. Do you have a reference for the 1980 ballot measure requesting that congress abrogate all treaties with American Indians Tribes at around 1:43:30? I couldn't find anything on the wiki for Washington state ballot measures. Thank you!
this video and part 2 of indigenous history video too just screams that wendigoon line where he says the next time someone says the goverment wouldnt do that oh yes they would ( i know he probably got that fron somewhere else but thats where i know it)
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I have been a citizen of WA for all my 70 years. I have also been a white sport fisher since birth. As a teenager in the 1960" I remember the wars on the Puyallup and Nisqually Rivers. I heard all the rascist arguments about "Indians ruining fish resources".. White s would not see the truth in front of them that our good old white purse seiners were catching all the fish that logging didn't kill. The war was pure old American rascism by us European interlopers over the people who were here first. Thanks for the great effort to tell a story that all should know about!
Those comments continue that to this day. I dont know how many times I've heard comments about the netting on the chehalis or willapa and people blaming that for the reason for the shit salmon runs the last few years
make them as long as they need to be
Second this!
I want to thank you for this amazing channel you have created. I am Native American my tribe is in Alaska and Canada. I wasn’t raised with my tribes or with any knowledge about being native until jr high school due to the fear from my family of the prejudice against PNW Indians. Today I am not only working within the tribal communities but my daughter and I listened to your videos everyday on the way to school . I plan on going back to the UW this next year and adding the American Indians Bachelors degree to my educational background. This information is so important for everyone to know and understand. Thank you 😊
Thank you for your kind words. I always appreciate getting comments like this. I’m very excited for your journey of reconnecting, and I commend you for all your efforts. My partner is Indigenous Hawaiian and she grew up pretty disconnected from her heritage for the same reasons as you, but is working to reconnect, so I understand what that’s like. I’m excited for what the future has in store for you and your family!
This is great! I’m in Fairbanks, and my ANS (Alaska Native Studies) classes gave me a great sense of how much Alaska Natives and Native Americans had to fight a war for their way of life. I am grateful to live on Denaii land, and to have the privilege to live here. I wish more Americans would understand better the rights and responsibilities that come with our Indigenous treaties.
If you want to borrow any of my Federal Indian Law or ANS texts and books, please let me know! I’m happy to share my library.
Thanks! I’m always down for resource suggestions. Could you shoot me an email with a picture of your library? Or however would be easiest for you. My contact info is under the about tab.
as a great plains indian i am in some tribal treaty classes at my tribal college and we talk about much of the same topics much of the work is learning about our tribal constitution and how it intersects with the federal policy at the time makes me hopeful to see my classmates and tribespeople actively educating ourselves about such modern issues and historical context of our past
another big discussion in our class is how our tribal institutions have evolved and flaws that they’ve developed as a result of our experience with assimilation it’s interesting stuff for sure
At the schools I attended growing up classmates who lived on the Suquamish and Port Gamble Sklallam reservations had family members arrested, harassed every year when the salmon were running.
Judge Boldt was courageous handing down the decision that called for the State of Washington to honor the treaties regarding fishing.
Slade Gordon, the Washington State prosecutor arguing against tribal rights was a scion of a family who had business interests in commercial fishing. He seemed to make it his mission to vilify the natives.
To the north in BC the 1st Nation's still to this day don't have the support of laws guaranteeing access to their traditional resources
Incredibly well done video- you could teach a college course on PNW indigenous history. You deserve way more subscribers, please keep up the great work
Come to peninsula college and I'll teach this
I'm a native American from the north west on the Canada side. This was so inspiring! I had a strong feeling that something like this happened to my people, it was so scary how accurate I was though 😢 it's great that we actually had the courts on our side. However, there's a hunch I have that it can be the pill that poisons us. Just because we are now part of the market, does not mean that the resources extraction method will change. It just means that native get their fair share of the resources. There needs to be a system in play to keep both parties from over fishing. If not the big corporations will utilise the natives relaxed regulations to exploit the desired resources. almost like a corporate cold war. I feel like it's just around the corner with all the green regulations.
I came across some articles in researching this video with the exact same concerns. Eventually I’ll do a follow up video that goes more in detail into the Boldt Decision’s aftermath and we’ll explore this in more depth.
I think you're right. And they keep getting people emotional and blinded with all the crap in the news. People need to stop paying so much attention to that, study some history and act accordingly! Most people don't know that American Indians/Alaska Natives were not recognized as citizens of the United States until 1924.
Fantastic! Your videos are always so wonderful and informative to watch!
I'm a descendant of PatKanim, who signed the Treaty of Point Elliot on behalf of our tribe. I'd love to see an episode dedicated to the notable chieftains of local tribes! Incredible work, really good to hear more conversation about washington state history and pacific indigenous history
When my union UFCW was on strike, my dad would talk to any Native Americans that might feel a need to cross the picket line (not a point against those who just wanted to get some groceries. We were on strike in 89 in Marysville by the Tulalup Tribe) about the Boldt decision. I knew it was a good thing but it was never explained to me. (My fault as I never asked for further clarification) Thank you for the long overdue history lesson. My dad would be proud of the work you put into this and I’m sure would be happy his daughter is finally learning some of our local history, as horrible as it is. I respect the Native American People and it’s good to have some knowledge of the history so that when people do say untruths (to put it nicely) I have a leg to stand on in their defense.
Make the videos as long as they are necessary for telling the story in whole. Your work is great keep it up
Had no clue about the time immemorial program. I’ll check it out, thank you! As always, fantastic content. Thank you.
TBH I don't remember ever being so mad over a TH-cam video... although maybe my memory is poor. I had no idea the state gov'ts of WA and OR had been so awful on this front (though I wasn't surprised to hear it). Wondering if in your research you came across any resources that discussed similar action in California? Am a CA resident, and at least some of what you discuss in this video applied here as well, especially tribes being affected by dam construction. Both where I grew up and where I live now have indigenous communities hugely impacted by dams (Shasta Co - Winemmem Wintu flooded out by Shasta Dam / Humboldt Co - Yurok fisheries devastated by dams on the Klamath). Would like to educate myself on similar policies & history here.
Great video, looking forward to seeing more from you!
California is woof, it’s got some heavy stuff. It’ll be a minute before I’ve got much Cali content, but in the meantime it sounds like you’re in Nor Cal. A good book for that region is called Ka’m-t’em: A Journey Toward Healing by Kishan Lara-Cooper and Walter Lara Sr. You can probably find it online but I got my copy at Humboldt Redwood State Park. It’s a collection of essays and interviews with local Nor Cal Indigenous people, mostly from the coastal areas like Yurok, Hoopa, and such. A bit dense and academic at times, but invaluable perspectives.
I lived in WA. state for about 25 years in the 80s and 90s and read many of the names in this history - Judge Boldt, Mr. Sohappy . I even once went to a PowWow around Seattle. But I learned so much more from your wonderful doco. Thank you so much. I'm always surprised somehow to see the racist culture of so many of us "whites." I remember observing the unembarrassed racism of "white" culture on display in the Seattle newspapers towards the Makah tribe when they decided to enforce their treaty rights. Thanks for your excellent production, Indigenous History Now.😁
This is education that needs to be in schools 💙 thank you ❤
Great video as always, the length's fine
An excellent show! Very well done. So glad I happened on your work this year. This filled in a lot of details on events I have followed over the years. I was intrigued by the section on Fort Lewis. Throughout my life I have driven through it on the main highway and on secondary roads to go from Oregon to the Seattle area.Was also there for basic training in 1967 after being drafted into the army. I had never known the land was primarily taken from the Nisqually tribe. This should be seen by everyone in the Pacific Northwest, to get a lot of our heads straight after being raised with fictions about our indigenous hosts and neighbors.
I just moved to Suquamish a few years ago and have since tried to learn a little more about the area since I’m from an area closer to Mt. Rainier and was ignorant of a lot of this history. I’m surprised at how little is online and how difficult it is to pull all this information you’ve gathered together. I really appreciate your videos and I hope you continue. Yours really are the best I’ve been able to find. Such a sad history but I’m very glad to be learning from your videos. thank you
i never heard of this. solid info.
wow.
that was magisterial in its scope.
my initial reaction until about 50 minutes in was to say,
"ah capitalism...lovely system isn't it?"
which is sort of my standard response to the "little" people being steamrolled
by the fat rich (usually white) men who have their fingers in all our pockets....
but then you transitioned to what I suppose could be called the "modern era"
of indigenous-white relations...and I got successively more and more angry.
just in time for the Boldt decision.
one man.
if it had been another judge? who knows what might have been the outcome.
that it came down to *one* man is disgusting. and typical of how this system "works".
ps: I'm ok with whatever length you feel you need to make your content to get across
the concepts, ideas and information, you feel are important.
you do it very well and I can imagine the amount of time you have taken to research,
write and record is an order of magnitude greater than what we get to see and listen to.
thank you.
I lived in Suqumish for years and had many fine indian friends, and knew the george family members well all fine people
Really incredible work. Love the channel and what you've made so far. Mostly posting the comment for the sake of the algorithm. This needs way more views!
Living on unceded Coast Salish territories in "canada" rn and learning a lot about this region and how these struggles continue today. Keep up the good work!
This is great, love how in depth it was. I knew a bit about this from having visited the Billy Frank Jr. Nisqually National Wildlife Refuge a few times, but this helped fill in a lot of gaps.
thank you for these videos, i love them and get excited whenever you upload something new :)
Absolutely amazing. Thank you.
I had no idea. Thanks for the info.
Thanks I'm from the Medicine Creek Treaty
This video is a masterpiece! Thank you!
Amazing compilation of history and photos. I really appreciate the work youre putting into this channel.
we learn about the pig war in wa state history but not this.
You’re so right😅😅
No surprise. Here’s another example of state government covering up their criminal activity in school textbooks.
11/10/1898 Wilmington NC.
Long story short, state legislature changed some laws which gave local KkK, the “legal” means to pull off an insurrection.
Wilmington back then, was like Black Wall Street, 60% of the town ran by black folks.
Anyway, former confederate soldiers and commanders murdered off mass black elected city officials if they didn’t resign and or voluntarily exile themself.
Anyway, up in till the late 40’s,books said blacks rioted and the “new” Government installed for the insurrection had to restore order.
Story goes, immediatly right after the magistrate signed off making official, they all marched straight to the local armory, grabbed the weapons and belt fed machine gun they had, started murdering blacks in the streets like it was the famous West Hollywood bank robbery shootout or something.
I wonder who's been overfishing since... You don't even need to guess. The fact that we have "Fresh Alaskan" fish subscription boxes is enough to tell you who... it makes me sick. American Indians and Alaskan Natives are disproportionately displaced when it comes to hunting and gathering their traditional foods. It's gotten better, but it's not and never could be how it was. The Natives were living in harmony with nature. The colonizers had to monetize it... Whenever some tourist asks about fishing spots, I laugh out loud. The fish wars wage on.
Hey great video. Super useful to know about the specific outcomes of specific cases regarding tribal/state relations, the context of the fish-ins, some significant events during the fish-ins, the white backlash.
Do you have a reference for the 1980 ballot measure requesting that congress abrogate all treaties with American Indians Tribes at around 1:43:30? I couldn't find anything on the wiki for Washington state ballot measures. Thank you!
Very informative
this video and part 2 of indigenous history video too just screams that wendigoon line where he says the next time someone says the goverment wouldnt do that oh yes they would ( i know he probably got that fron somewhere else but thats where i know it)
🙂
I dont fish anymore.
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❤🥰💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
If I had god powers, I'd restore everything. Until then I will move the river myself, one handful at a time.
I've been excited to hear more about this story since you mentioned it a few months ago!