Deck Building Fundamentals (Start Playing Vanguard Pt. 3)

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  • @alexg.9250
    @alexg.9250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    One way I lile to remember the standard deck ratio is that you start with 17 g0s(starter plus triggers),and substract 3 as you go up each grade:17->17-3=14->14-3=11->11-3=8

  • @theglocknessmonster
    @theglocknessmonster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I can explain the yugioh ratio thing. Some cards are powerful, but can be considered bricks that you wouldn’t be able to make plays from if you draw them. Let’s say Gem-knight Garnet who has no ability and fairly weak. He can’t extend, but you can use brilliant fusion to send him from the deck(not hand) to the graveyard to fusion summon Gem-knight Seraphinite who let’s you gain an additional norman summon. Just an example of the many ways cards aren’t always maximized.

    • @BoldAndSpicy
      @BoldAndSpicy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would say pot of desires is a better example of this and what he was talking about. It forces you to mill 10 cards off your deck and place them in basically an unusable state, but in return you get to draw 2 cards. This is a great trade off if you do it once in a game but its also not usually a card that you need to see in order to be able to win, in other words its nice to see. However if you draw another one from the first one, now you're paying a pretty hefty price to go +2 (basically milling half your deck and possibly making cards you need unusable) if you use the new one you draw. So now you either have a high risk situation or a dead card. If you only run two as opposed to 3 in a 40 card deck it reduces the risk significantly enough that its rarely an issue. Hence why its usually ran with 2 so that its good if you see it but okay if you don't.

    • @kaiserdragon1206
      @kaiserdragon1206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You both made excellent points. In yugioh, the difference in ratios means you will see a particular card more often or not on your beginning hand. Most deck run a 40 card decks, so they want to max out on what we call starter cards while we leave the boss monsters in the 1 copy.

    • @rescuerex7031
      @rescuerex7031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also with Yugioh consistency is everywhere, Floating, Searching, and Drawing so even though like Vanguard it's a lot about Building and breaking Boards Vanguard doesn't have the same level of consistency

  • @icedude46
    @icedude46 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You honestly have one of, if not the best card channels around. I got into vanguard roughly 2 years ago and NONE of my friends play it, and trying to teach them was so rough. Thankfully I have this series to show them! You also help me expand my knowledge, as I said I am still relatively new. Your videos are so informational and very entertaining!

  • @mujtabasirius
    @mujtabasirius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    These videos of yours helped me alot, although i have been playing vangaurd since 2014 i still watch all of them and then show them to my friends who wanted to learn vangaurd got 2 people in this game through these.

  • @ItsCottonie
    @ItsCottonie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with all of these! I’m a casual, I don’t play tournaments, and can’t really deck build at all so I always stick to certain things to help. The ratio, always run 4 if the card is essential to the deck, and I netdeck especially with premium. Standard I can kind of get a feel for how to build the deck cause there isn’t many cards to choose from. But if you initially gave me every card from a clan and told me to make a deck I’d have no idea what I would be doing. So what I do is I make an excel sheet on google drive, then I pull up two or more deck lists of the clan and build I want (for example “great nature bigbelly success deck” or “pale moon Harri Magia deck”). Then I compare the lists. If both lists run a card at 4 then I know that card is important and I’ll add 4 to the excel sheet. So I do that first. Then after, for example if they run 2 separate cards then I’ll read the abilities and see which one id like more. If I’m unsure I go for the cheaper one lol. If they’re both cheap I’ll buy both and see which one is easier for me to play with. The excel sheet helps me keep track of all the cards, how many should be in the deck, how many of a card I have, how many I need, and a link for me to look at the card and see it’s ability. Great video!

  • @cfvanguard9034
    @cfvanguard9034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:11 oh man I love how he described aqua force's grade 1s 😂😂😂

  • @chitosecoffee9668
    @chitosecoffee9668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember when cardfight was season one and I return today and the cards are drastically different from what a remember

  • @darkgn0ll587
    @darkgn0ll587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ths series has been super helpful to me- thank you very much!

  • @Goobrino
    @Goobrino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I agree with netdecking. People hating on it are just salty mofos who can't win with their original builds. What I've always done is netdeck (if I'm not familiar with the clan) then tweak it constantly until I become comfortable with it.

    • @devaraft
      @devaraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't netdecking and tweaking it a norm? I mean, I do have my own build for fun but netdecking is definitely acceptable.

    • @Goobrino
      @Goobrino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devaraft You'd be surprised as to how many people think that netdecking makes you a bad player because they think original is the best.

    • @devaraft
      @devaraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Goobrino I honestly don't see the appeal of 100% netdecking but I don't mind if some people do. I mean it's only a game, why do one even get mad over people's preferences anyway

    • @Jachidos
      @Jachidos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys misunderstand. Netdecking isn't the problem when you learn to properly play it and even twerk it a bit. What is looked down upon is people netdecking the day before a tournament and expecting to win without any practice, as if the deck would just play itself.

    • @Goobrino
      @Goobrino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jachidos We didn't misunderstand. You might be the one who did. I don't have a problem with netdecking, the other people do.

  • @yohannesmusa6684
    @yohannesmusa6684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The extra draws are crucial in standard like for typical accel clan ( aqua,naru,nova) they need extra draw in order to collect their combo pieces as fast as possible and keep the hand consistent. Also i really think that standard is a matter of speed in the game.

  • @sloumagamer277
    @sloumagamer277 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to vanguard and you truly did help me a lottt ! thankkksss

  • @Earthbound524
    @Earthbound524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eventually you should make a video talking about the other mechanics of the game (breakride, legion, strides, stride fodder, g guardians) but also i noticed you didn't explain intercepts as well in the previous video

  • @melodoxoffical
    @melodoxoffical 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Highly doubt this'll be seen BUT i play yugioh and my friend plays both magic and yugioh. I saw some guys at my locals playing and i was drawn to it since. It took me some time but i finally decided I want to play. My friend offered to join me as where i live there is barely a vanguard playerbase. I chose to pick up a Bermuda triangle trial deck and we recently found your videos and have been watching the first 3 on repeat until we're comfortable to move on.

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Melodox Offical Awesome! Good luck on your journey :)

  • @gogetta0100
    @gogetta0100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    New to the game here and I'm very thankful for your videos my friends have been trying to get me to start playing but they secretly don't know I am 😂

  • @Windman1995
    @Windman1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You want to be running a lower ammount of G3s, looks at Melody and Ange/Trois xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

  • @cnash5647
    @cnash5647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought this was a thing, I only think of balance proportions and break them to make space for more important cards

  • @Kingofknights1401
    @Kingofknights1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An example of a weaker trigger thats good is sarugal as it gives you draw power which is really needed in royals

  • @Emperor_of_Perdition
    @Emperor_of_Perdition 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your intro song !!!

    • @Ahmed-DB
      @Ahmed-DB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/ObI8e-XW_04/w-d-xo.html
      Thank me later

    • @plasmatriton7394
      @plasmatriton7394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      His final turn ost

    • @Emperor_of_Perdition
      @Emperor_of_Perdition 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ahmed-DB Thank you !!

    • @Ahmed-DB
      @Ahmed-DB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Emperor_of_Perdition np

    • @Ahmed-DB
      @Ahmed-DB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Emperor_of_Perdition lyrics in his description btw

  • @mocareginaalcus1263
    @mocareginaalcus1263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Run 14 G3
    Still G assist in G3 ride
    Kinda hate my luck

  • @haziqhamdan2643
    @haziqhamdan2643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play gear chronicle for standard format. From what I red from net, I should play 10:11:12 (g3>g1). But some people run 10:12:11, 11:11:11. I tried first recommendation but 1 over 15 get to bind equal to g19 against my brother's royal paladin soul saver palamedes

  • @shirou-kun9093
    @shirou-kun9093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dragwizard decks generally run 15+ grade 1s and like only mabye 8-10 grade 2s

  • @4ceher0
    @4ceher0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really enjoying all this new content. keep it up !

  • @sohamupadhyay7557
    @sohamupadhyay7557 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This could be the video that can help people win regionals , like really most fundamental but so impactful..

  • @christiansanchezmontero4018
    @christiansanchezmontero4018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work

  • @golddart6645
    @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a video I need to watch, I really want to build decks but just don’t know how

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this will help :)

    • @golddart6645
      @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solemn Vanguard just finished and sure did it help me

  • @MrSirSquirtle
    @MrSirSquirtle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a particular trial deck in Standard that is "better" than the rest? Or one that is more easily upgradeable?

    • @dionardvale7448
      @dionardvale7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      imo genesis

    • @gabsanga6703
      @gabsanga6703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess Genesis TD. It has Valkerion the first G5 card in the game. Its kinda easy too build rn IMO, I think Astraios Dragon and New Uranus are the hardest ones to get

  • @arjunbalamurali127
    @arjunbalamurali127 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I generally run 17 G 0s, 12 G 1s, 11 G 2s and 10 G3s. Always kinda worked for me.

  • @iimegumn0717
    @iimegumn0717 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    standard gears is soo hard in deck building but its fun to play

  • @ahmadjalal3483
    @ahmadjalal3483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you tell us what the symbols mean

  • @RamenFool
    @RamenFool 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thing is... you cant guard with monsters like you can in CFV, and with more deck toolboxing you're more likely to search something else at certain parts of the game... especially if it's a normal summon effect
    So wanting to see a card sometimes but not all the time is warranted for other card games

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Fangre But yugioh games are generally decided on turn 1. So consistency of seeing specific things in 5/40 cards is more important than ever.

  • @anthonycurto5654
    @anthonycurto5654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use genetic support like ultra and run 9 G3’s

  • @golddart6645
    @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyy congrats 14k👍👍

  • @bubblegum7661
    @bubblegum7661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My D.I. Deck needs more grade 2s

  • @khiarieverett9658
    @khiarieverett9658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15 Grade 3s, what Glendios use to be

  • @cronical246
    @cronical246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me wishing Hagakure was a grade 1

  • @Deme_Diora666
    @Deme_Diora666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to play vanguard then they added 4 stars and I lost it for like 2 years now I’m back...

  • @itsmegrimm
    @itsmegrimm ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought Cardfight Vanguard Dear days
    Im looking for a video tutorial how to build a deck
    and I don't understand anything

  • @Samikinlol
    @Samikinlol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually I think it is still called G Assist as the G stands for Grades, right? Or am I going crazy?

    • @boykatanadewarrior9863
      @boykatanadewarrior9863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope you are right :D

    • @Samikinlol
      @Samikinlol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aerinnmay7082 I just thought it meant G for grade since you do it while you are grade stuck and can't ride up. Why would it also be called generation assist if it had minimal effect on striding cards and more effect on riding cards?

  • @midlightdrakon9911
    @midlightdrakon9911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to know the opening song

    • @fiendishmia506
      @fiendishmia506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Midlight Drakon he made it I think

  • @matt-dc8zb
    @matt-dc8zb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just starting to play vanguard recently, and I want to start in standard, but I don't really have any card shops near by that play anything other than magic. I was wondering if you or someone in the comments could let me know what the pool of cards standard draws from. For example is it just the unite team q4, al4, miyaji academy, and vilest, or are there other cards too. I ask because I saw a dimension police standard profile on youtube, but from the card lists none of those sets have dimension police.

    • @BboyTurok1990
      @BboyTurok1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dimension Police is mostly on extra boosters like My Glorious Justice and Asia Circuit Champion extra booster.

  • @ianriley5756
    @ianriley5756 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about g units and g guardians? Are they part of the 50 or separate like the extra deck in card games

  • @redfalconyt6538
    @redfalconyt6538 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you mean by 4 drop eg

  • @jinsoulsfish6103
    @jinsoulsfish6103 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I invest in cards/decks that is aplicable in standard format or the ones in premium format?

    • @Arlixd
      @Arlixd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both. But premium cards will last longer.

  • @NarukamiRaizer
    @NarukamiRaizer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im starting to play premium and i have a question. cards that have a standard and an original version but that are restircted .for example commander laurel is restricted to one but does that mean i can only run 1 laurel or can i for example run 1 old laurel and 3 new laurel is that possible? an answer would be great ( and sry for bad english greetings from germany 😊)

    • @crispycookie8477
      @crispycookie8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nop you can run 1 old laurel and 3 new laurel, the restriction is only to that specific card

  • @mirilion8372
    @mirilion8372 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for front quintet walls

  • @manjulaekka4466
    @manjulaekka4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain how great nature × gyze works?

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Manjula Ekka It doesn’t... Really :P It’s a funny deck cuz it draws a lot and can fetch g3s with Mikesaburo but it’s not a competitive deck

  • @thecouncilofbruh7854
    @thecouncilofbruh7854 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Talks about hypothetical drawing then talks about granblue* visible confusion

  • @Ahmed-DB
    @Ahmed-DB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh and Solemn, why do you keep the Category of the video at default People and Blogs

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dragonicblaster I never gave it any thought lol

    • @Ahmed-DB
      @Ahmed-DB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SolemnVanguard lol ah well

  • @ultimatedrago4909
    @ultimatedrago4909 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roughly how expensive is it to build a good deck with vrs and all those rares?

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For standard, most competitive decks will be between 150 and 300. (Usually between 150-200... some are just extra expensive)
      For premium, it's extremely clan-reliant. Some competitively viable decks are only 60$ whilst others are 200$ or even 400$.

    • @ultimatedrago4909
      @ultimatedrago4909 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SolemnVanguard is that in usd?

    • @mekk-knightsarecool222
      @mekk-knightsarecool222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ultimate Drago490 yeah, it has a dollar sign behind the numbers

  • @DarkMagicianMana
    @DarkMagicianMana 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's better:
    G3= 8
    G2= 10
    G1= 15
    G0= 17
    Or:
    G3= 8
    G2= 11
    G1= 14
    G0= 17
    ???

    • @machina5
      @machina5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on your deck.

  • @zaza-vj4gn
    @zaza-vj4gn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y do you like using the word validity

  • @golddart6645
    @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have a reliable website where I can buy singles in the uk?
    Not eBay or amazon tho, coz like a Mac lir is going for £8
    Thank you🙏

    • @SolemnVanguard
      @SolemnVanguard  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use ebay, tcgplayer, etc..

    • @golddart6645
      @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solemn Vanguard but isn’t tcgplayer American
      Idk I really want to get into vanguard but boosters are expensive in the uk
      And I find it hard to find singles
      Plus I don’t have locals

    • @leofransson3519
      @leofransson3519 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spectral Dragon cardfightvanguardsingels is very good site! I have used it many times shipping is fast and very good condition too

    • @golddart6645
      @golddart6645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leo Fransson thanks

    • @anessalwan
      @anessalwan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cardmarket.eu is cheaper than other sites (at least that is my experience) and when you make a want list (feature of the site) it checks all the sellers for one with the most cards in your list and gow much it costs. You should try it out.

  • @rai-kun7581
    @rai-kun7581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    shadow paladins dont have front triggers so we basically can have like 4 extra cards in our deck

    • @LeoNotLeonidas
      @LeoNotLeonidas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      8 crit of course, why 4 extra cards? You must have 16 triggers.

  • @neon5299
    @neon5299 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other problem is money. Im broke af

  • @skarn-
    @skarn- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I have more then 50 ?

  • @inukiokazaki3668
    @inukiokazaki3668 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:10

  • @manjulaekka4466
    @manjulaekka4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second

  • @teammetastorm1479
    @teammetastorm1479 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    FIRST

  • @RyujiRoyalSkull
    @RyujiRoyalSkull 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao please don't Netdeck. Most are literal cancer. (Yugioh experience tho)

    • @crispycookie8477
      @crispycookie8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if your a beginner and no one can help you you dont really have a choice, they can learn from looking at what cards are considered good or playable