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  • @fyresystem4902
    @fyresystem4902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +784

    I like how even when she get into starclan she's like "I'm not done with my rant yet-"

    • @lillianlamb6073
      @lillianlamb6073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @uvula silverpelt: but why-
      mapleshade: SHUSH IM NOT DOOOONE. >:0000

  • @hoopdogtheking2348
    @hoopdogtheking2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +928

    In Mapleshade's defense, if I didn't know why Leonard Nimoy wasn't answering my calls I'd go insane too.

  • @giabarstudios5733
    @giabarstudios5733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    2:29 when your in a office chair and the other cats are like: Wtf are you doing.

  • @softyarn4030
    @softyarn4030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I can imagine Mapleshade sitting in her little patch of dark forest, so proud of herself for making it, and the judge is just sitting there like "ah fuck"

  • @SepticShockAKAVin
    @SepticShockAKAVin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    "Disbelieving, that's the real crime." Man that lyric fits this perfectly. While I don't headcanon Mapleshade as creating the Dark Forest, the cat who did it in my headcanon did it in a similar way to her! I'm obsessed with this!

    • @mememakerexdee1048
      @mememakerexdee1048 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought it was " just believing", not "disbelieving"

  • @lithe8152
    @lithe8152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +696

    I like to imagine that this takes place before Heartless
    That Appledusk was let into StarClan at first without any questioning, but after Mapleshade showed Silverpelt her side of the story, made them see that she wasnt the only one at fault and created the Dark Forest to separate herself from the cats that hurt her, Silverpelt decided to see Appledusk's side of the story, and when he fabricated a tale of a cruel and heartless she-cat killer, they knew that he deserved to be sent to the Dark Forest, where Mapleshade got to finish what she started.
    Also, maybe the others were questioned a bit too but learned from Appledusk's mistake and showed remorse and accepted fault and so were allowed to stay.

    • @CloverEtoile
      @CloverEtoile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      that's a cool idea, and i agree

    • @petrol_cat_oily7838
      @petrol_cat_oily7838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Amazing idea!, I didn’t think of it being like that, but that’s amazing. Rethinking if appledusk had to go to the dark forest!

    • @arennie7828
      @arennie7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      tbh I think this did happen before heartless. Mapleshade in heartless was already a dark forest cat but for this she wasn't for most of the song

    • @tiffanyg5547
      @tiffanyg5547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I Like That Idea. It’s Good To Know He Still was Figured Out for Lying. And I’m not One of those People Like: Oh, Mapleshade Is just a Misunderstood! It was very Irresponsible Of Her To Kill to Satisfy her Own Mind, But Appledusk Didn’t Help Soon Enough In My Opinion. Like.. Erin’s. The HECK? You Couldn’t Even Let Patchkit Live?? She Still Shouldn’t Have used Murder as A Coping Mechanism, Though.

    • @Fawnfreckle
      @Fawnfreckle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      soo
      what does silverpelt sound like?
      multiple voices
      or just one?
      personly i like many voices

  • @bethanymuwun7459
    @bethanymuwun7459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1291

    plot twist: the judge becomes the judged

    • @RavenLunatic517
      @RavenLunatic517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Oh how the turn tables....

    • @ovicorv
      @ovicorv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Secondary twist added to the twist: The judge is sent to the Dark Forest and they have to figure out how to get a new one-

    • @thesilvercat13
      @thesilvercat13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      hah yes

    • @catz_gaming1018
      @catz_gaming1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    • @dawnski_0
      @dawnski_0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ultimate plot twist: *The judge is in Maple’Shade’s position and Maple’Shade becomes the judge*

  • @purplezaddyra1814
    @purplezaddyra1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    You know I actually really like the idea of cats rejecting Starclan rather than being rejected b starclan, because plenty of cats have had such a disservice done to them and I hate how cats who were treated so badly like mapleshade are kicked into the dark forest after the world turned them into the monsters they became.
    Also thunderclan was literally like "FUCK YOU, MAPLESHADE, we can't have riveclan cats in our clan!" and then they get a riveclan medicine cat because I guess they can ignore their own morals when it's convenient to them

    • @Masking_masker-masky
      @Masking_masker-masky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Thats not what happend mapleshade's mate killed oakstars son i mean he doesnt want anyone who had kits with the person who lilled his son and lied to everyone and was dumb enough to go cross a river then it's their fault that she went to have kits with a riverclan cat that was seeing someone else that was a scummy move she would get revenge but why kill 7 people??

    • @xxblackdahliaxx6490
      @xxblackdahliaxx6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@Masking_masker-masky
      Mapleshade is like a Gigi Caldwell from Scream Queens character.. she's a sympathetic villain. You feel sorry for her. The thing is, nobody in Mapleshade's Vengeance is a good person. Everybody who wronged her is just as guilty for their own deaths and the murders as she is. That's why all the characters she killed should've gone to the Dark Forest. (Except Ravenwing, I guess..) Appledusk got into a clan-cross relationship just like Maple did, he cheated on both her and Reedshine. Frecklewish broke the warrior code when she watched the kits drown. And Maple never agreed to Birchface being their father, she just looked at her for a few moments and Frecklewish took it as her agreeing.
      Mapleshade was insane with grief, she lost her mind. She deserves to be in the Dark Forest, though so do most of the cats that wronged her, including Oakstar and Duskstar/Darkstar. Her kits were not egging her on, she was hallucinating them. The kits were the real victims in this book.
      Literally nearly all characters Maple wanted dead were terrible people, almost everyone in her book is a horrible person.
      Edit:: Also, Mapleshade was pregnant with Appledusk's kits before Birchface and Flowerpaw drowned. That is entirely Assdusk's fault. And about the river thing, Maple had nowhere else to go. The old territories were always rather cramped and Oakstar led raids on twoleg place, Kittypets fought back during that time.
      Mapleshade couldn't have become a rogue between territories with her kits because she wouldn't be able to keep them all safe, she would've had to leave them to hunt for them and risk a patrol or predator or stay with them until they were all starving, resulting in her not being able to nurse them. The only thing she could've done for them is take them to Riverclan, with their father. She thought Appledusk loved her and them as he pretended to when he first met the kits and when he always met up with her. Appledusk was a liar and he used her *and* Reedshine.

    • @Masking_masker-masky
      @Masking_masker-masky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@xxblackdahliaxx6490 first of all she broke the rules like i said appledusk was horrible and oakstar didnt raid the 2 legged place it was just a one time and this was after she died She also lied amd betrayed everyones trust and manipulated an she cat she LET her kits go and it was flood season evryone knew that even mapleshade yet she went to the river if she was panicking that was would've fine and make up the face that she made her kits drown and i get the i know she had a mental breakdown but in
      Edit: the book it shows she had no panic come over her and i know oakstars a dick but this is also star clans fault is well they sent an omen and fucked themselves and she doesn't blame starclan but the other cat's i mean come on starclan they should have known cause they know the future so they could've prevented this so i like the idea of maple shade being the queen i just want her to realise how stupid she was

    • @xxblackdahliaxx6490
      @xxblackdahliaxx6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@Masking_masker-masky
      She did *not* let her kits go, read the book. She couldn't have put them behind her and gone first because it would've been even more dangerous, she had smashed her head and still had the injury Frecklewish gave her and she of course does not have extra webbing on her paws like Riverclan cats do, she couldn't have saved them in that current because the floods only continued coming. She tried desperately to save them.
      Like I said, *EVERYONE BROKE THE CODE IN THAT BOOK.* Frecklewish, Appledusk, Oakstar, Dark/Duskstar, Mapleshade herself. Literally the only victim of hers that was acting on Starclan will was Ravenwing, even then he had no need to snitch because having them be halfclan would not have affected anything later on in their lives. Graystripe's kits with Silverstream are proof that Halfclan kits know their loyalty depending on which their main clan is.
      No, Maple isn't justified. But neither are all the horrible cats that lied and assumed things about her. Frecklewish had absolutely no reason to assume they were Birchface's kits and even if that didn't really start it all. She broke the code.
      "No warrior can neglect a kit in pain or danger, even if that kit is from a different clan."
      Dark/Duskstar, Frecklewish, Appledusk and Oakstar broke that rule by sending the kits away. Maple deserved to be exiled, but exiling the kits was not right; Exiling the kits was breaking the code.
      Did Mapleshade break the warrior code? Yes. So did Appledusk. Nobody is justified, nobody is a good character in that book. Everyone broke the code, all of her victims and the two leaders deserve to be in the Dark Forest.

    • @Masking_masker-masky
      @Masking_masker-masky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xxblackdahliaxx6490 yes thats what i said i literally said if you didn't read oakstar was a dick and apple dusk but she i said she manipulated a she cat who was devastated that they weren't her brothers kits and i said it was starclan! I think you should reread my comment again

  • @kevinmillard1323
    @kevinmillard1323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    i like the fact that mapleshade could have started the dark forest as she was chronologically the first mention of it

    • @Jamin910
      @Jamin910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought it was One Eye??

  • @daviddoulton4193
    @daviddoulton4193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I just realised draikinator has done a whole load of mapleshade.

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      I just think she's neat

    • @Terrortism
      @Terrortism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@Draikinator well guess what
      She _I S_

    • @STAPLEDTONGUE
      @STAPLEDTONGUE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      :0

    • @fabplays6559
      @fabplays6559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beckyjoe7288 Draikinator is not a “he”.

  • @StardustGaming500
    @StardustGaming500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Honestly, Mapleshade creating the Dark Forest instead of One Eye, a rouge and a cat who just killed for fun, over a she cat who was ignored by Starclan, and turned to killing because they left her behind sound better!

  • @castangred7713
    @castangred7713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +963

    Are you saying that Mapleshade kinda created the Dark Forest? That’s actually a really cool idea!

    • @natilliajohnson2548
      @natilliajohnson2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Okay but then those not allowed in StarClan were just stuck walking in the living world then. Forced to watch what their actions caused. Before she created the dark forest

    • @natilliajohnson2548
      @natilliajohnson2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Or each evil cat creates a small amount of the Dark Forest and hers was just the first truly large peice to be created

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      Yeah I don't know why but that was my original impression the first time I read mapleshades vengeance so I said hey, you know, that's not canon but, I like it anyway, let's run with it

    • @AFUniversCat
      @AFUniversCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Draikinator I think it would be a great idea too because it make the thingy that Mapleshade is the leader of the DF (i don't know if it's canon but i hope it is lol) more logical if it's her who created it.

    • @crystalrose3215
      @crystalrose3215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@AFUniversCat im pretty sure one eye was the first cat in the dark forest so im sure that he created it,maybe like someone said darkforest cats expand the territory as a cat dies and joins the dark forest

  • @chaos9608
    @chaos9608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    3:10 rare footage of my baby brother when he doesn’t get his milk

    • @Reserve.s
      @Reserve.s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD

    • @brutthefatcatkatti9514
      @brutthefatcatkatti9514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh god the likes are 69-

    • @Fawnfreckle
      @Fawnfreckle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      o h n o e .

    • @starflayers
      @starflayers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me when it’s raining and we’re out of milk
      and we only have the shitty no fat milk

    • @mckaylamarille8630
      @mckaylamarille8630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He seems to quite literally open the gates of Hell

  • @cronchycorgocat1376
    @cronchycorgocat1376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    3:33 is anyone else obsessed with this scene where she’s got her head back like that, it’s just too freaking cool.

    • @elgrandefleau7359
      @elgrandefleau7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      She looks cool like that but thinking about that it’s impossible to do that makes me think that she literally broke her head , scares me a little bit

    • @Rosia4309
      @Rosia4309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      El grande Fléau Well, I mean, she's dead

    • @cronchycorgocat1376
      @cronchycorgocat1376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rosia
      Ya I know XD

    • @elgrandefleau7359
      @elgrandefleau7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rosia even if she is dead , I feel kinda uncomfortable seeing this ... I can’t explain very well

    • @zeraviin
      @zeraviin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cronchy Corgocats i like that 2

  • @starrymoonpaw8680
    @starrymoonpaw8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    For all the people in the comment section arguing about mapleshade.
    Mapleshade knew that here relationship with Appledusk was against the warrior code but she continued on in here relationship. Lots of cats have done this. Frecklewish assumed that the father was Birchface. But Mapleshade did let her assume because she thought here kits would be safer. Oakstar exillide mapleshade and her two month old kits during a storm. Exilling two month old kits would put the kits at risk of more dangers then if the kits were in a clan. Exiling Mapleshade is understandable. Because Appledusk murderd Birchface. But exiling two month old kits who did nothing wrong is different thing. Mapleshade could of went to the two leg place but did not. She thought they would be better of in riverclan. When she left thunderclan. She was angry and just wanted to get as for away from thunderclan as possible. She did try to save here kits but she hit her head on a rock. And it was mentioned in the books that Frecklewish saw the kits drowning and did nothing. And the warrior code states that you cannot neglect any suffering or dying kit dosen't matter if the kit is from a different clan or not. Appledusk cheated on both Mapleshade and Reedshine. Appledusk also broke up with Mapleshade right after her kits died. Mapleshade was angry and sad after losing everything. She started to hallucinate her kits crying out for here. Mapleshade fought avenging them would be the only way to help them there is nothing like a mother's wrath. Mapleshade did deserve to go to the Darkforest yes I agree. but all the cats she killed where not good cats either.

    • @natilliajohnson2548
      @natilliajohnson2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      To add onto, the ruling leader of ThunderCpan was having portal parties attack kitty pets at the time. The safest place would have been RiverClan

    • @starrymoonpaw8680
      @starrymoonpaw8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@natilliajohnson2548 well not exactly at the time. But if mapelshade went there with here kits. They would of gotten attacked eventually. And here kits would of been better of in a clan because. She would of needed someone to help her take care of her kits. You can't exactly hunt and protect them at the same time.

    • @alinetitus2873
      @alinetitus2873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I mean, Mapleshade had a lot of pressure put on her she probably felt like she had to go to river lan quickly or else she and her kits would die and didn’t think it through properly why? She didn’t really have time for that as thunderclan sent frecklewish after her to make sure she’s gone and mapleshade probably thought if she didn’t cross the river quickly frecklewish would hurt her and her kits.

    • @starrymoonpaw8680
      @starrymoonpaw8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alinetitus2873 I agree

    • @jellyfishing
      @jellyfishing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean
      She also abused Crookedstar mentally and physically JUST because he was related to Appledusk????

  • @hotatespotates
    @hotatespotates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    i love this idea!
    mapleshade definitely shouldn't have gone to starclan, but in a way, that's ultimately starclan's fault. they did nothing about her situation despite her pleas for guidance and help from them. they showed no sign that she was doing anything potentially wrong. she knew it was wrong to have kits with a cat of another clan, but there are numerous other forbidden couples that weren't punished to the lengths she was (that isn't to say they weren't punished at all, but she definitely got fucked over by literally everyone in this story.)
    overall, starclan definitely did a shitty job watching over them. it's their fault mapleshade had turned out the way she did. in other words, they could have done more to prevent this turn out. maybe birchface in starclan convinces ravenwing in a dream that he actually was the father of those kits. or they could have saved her the grief of losing her kits since she pretty much lost everything at that point.
    no one in that book deserved what they got. except for oakstar. seriously. fuck that guy.

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I always want to remind people that mapleshade always intended to submit to punishment for what she had done! She says it again and again that she ALWAYS intended to tell the truth, but when her kits were old enough they wouldn't have to grow up with it looming over them, when they wouldn't be judged for her crimes. Even after ravenwing told her he was telling oakstar she thought to herself she was prepared to be punished, even exiled, because she understood she had broken a rule, even if she felt the rule was unjust- but she NEVER believed her clan would punish innocent children for her crimes. Mapleshade was foolish and naive and misguided, and eventually she became a truly evil person, but she had the potential to to be a good one if starclan had guided her more kindly.

    • @hotatespotates
      @hotatespotates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Draikinator i agree 100%.
      i agree mapleshade should've been punished, but not her kits. so many cats have been overlooked in this book regarding rule breaking, maybe even starclan themselves.
      there's a law that states every cat from any clan will be responsible for *any* kit, even if they're from another clan.
      starclan definitely didn't endorse this rule for mapleshade's case, oakstar didn't give a shit, no one in thunderclan objected, and no one in riverclan sympathized for mapleshade or her dead kits. she was already freaking out because she and her kits were kicked out of the only home they've ever known, but now with the grief of losing her babies and then getting betrayed by the father of her kits and technically getting banished a second time not even a full day later- she had gone through so much emotional trauma in one night it had driven her mad.
      i don't think that justifies mapleshade, but starclan definitely could have done something.
      buuuut their lack of guidance and the whole "no mercy" concept from maple's environment definitely made this story stand out from the others in warriors and it was particularly darker in tone than most of them.

    • @hotatespotates
      @hotatespotates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      enforce*** not endorse

    • @Sparkle8205
      @Sparkle8205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This

    • @daisy-ur7en
      @daisy-ur7en 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      THISSS

  • @sm0lcatfish
    @sm0lcatfish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Late but what if Silverpelt was the first dead cat but couldn’t stand being useless so they created starclan, and since it’s their creation they judged others to enter.

    • @aspendespain4606
      @aspendespain4606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Huh, this is actually a really cool idea. And Silverpelt sounds like a warriors name.

    • @sm0lcatfish
      @sm0lcatfish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aspen Despain it’s in the desc, it’s the judge’s name

    • @aspendespain4606
      @aspendespain4606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sm0lcatfish Eh, I just took a look at it and while it does say Silverpelt, it's more like his title. He's just a personification of Starclan, not any particular character.

  • @piaandco
    @piaandco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Me : **falls in love whith this song**
    Draikinator 0.9 seconds after:

    • @nonactiveaccount964
      @nonactiveaccount964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Creatalotl_XD Official wait is this about the drama-

    • @mediatorraptor3349
      @mediatorraptor3349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same. I feel in love with this song while listening to Cabinat Men. What a conquidence

  • @arrowvanlanduyt6319
    @arrowvanlanduyt6319 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I know a lot of people think Mapleshade is a horrible and overated character. But to me, the characters in Mapleshade's Vengeance are some of my favorites of all time because they actually have faults. Mapleshade is an incredibly naive character, as mentioned in the desc of this animatic. She expects that StarClan will come down to negate her every move, tell her every time she's wrong. But they don't. When her kits are born, she only tries to protest once when Frecklewish proclaims their father MUST be Birchface (which btw what was that Frecklewish, I know you're grieving girl but c'mon, don't just make assumptions. Frecklewish is acting like Rosetail here lol). Mapleshade foolishly brings her kits to the river to see Appledusk, where literally ANY CAT could see her. A cat does see her, Ravenwing, who proclaims that he had received an omen about three pieces of reed that were washed into his den (which again, wtf was that StarClan, there was no reason for them to need to send an omen about that. The omen is one of the driving reasons for Mapleshade and her kits to be driven out. Maybe her kits wouldn't have died if StarClan hadn't sent an omen saying they didn't belong in ThunderClan.) When Ravenwing reveals the secret on a stormy day, Oakstar is incredibly biased and cruel. Just because Appledusk is there father and he supposedly killed his son Birchface in cold blood. Frecklewish, who is the one who first ASSUMED that Birchface was their father even though Mapleshade was VISIBLY uncomfortable when that was brought up every time. Frecklewish, puts all of the blame on Mapleshade and attacks her. Mapleshade shouldn't have done what she did sure and expected StarClan to give her a sign about her every move, but Frecklewish, Oakstar and Ravenwing didn't have to be so clear. Ravenwing is clearly made out in the scene to HATE Mapleshade for her actions. So, Oakstar decides its a grand idea to exile Mapleshade AND her two month old babies in the middle of a storm. These were eight week old babies with a single mother who was practically having a panic attack. Now, I'm not really sure what happened at this point because Mapleshade seems to completely forget about the twoleg bridge when she's trying to cross the river. I would just assume it was intended for her not to be thinking straight, which she probably wasn't, or the authors conveniently forgot about it. Next, Mapleshade attempts to cross the river during a storm, yes this was stupid. But was it mentioned the river was flooded at this point? NO. It was a FLASH FLOOD, Mapleshade, who had no experience with the river, would have had no idea that the river was about to flooded. This never seems to be mentioned by the fandom. Whilst Mapleshade should have crossed at the twoleg bridge, she was NOT responsible for the death of her kits. No one truly was, though I think Oakstar is partially to blame. A RiverClan patrol manages to recover the bodies of the kits and save Mapleshade, and at this point Appledusk is treating the situation as a responsible adult. When he finds out that Mapleshade intentionally tried to cross the river though, he acts like she would have known it was dangerous. Yes, it was during a storm, but to her the river looked NORMAL. He acts like this panicked woman would've been able to read the river well enough and understand the situation enough to not cross the river. They take Mapleshade and the dead kits to RiverClan camp. At which point Darkstar, who is overall better than Oakstar, but still forcefully takes away her dead kits and buries them, not allowing her to even stay for a night. This is a situation where a women is treated worse than a man. Darkstar acts as though Appledusk has been punished adequetly due to the death of the children he met ONCE and then proceeds to Mapleshade she can never come back or visit her childrens graves?! As the book mentions, Appledusk pins all of the blame on Mapleshade and doesn't even allow her to speak for herself. ALSO, Appledusk was cheating on Mapleshade and Reedshine simultaneously?! Appledusk is a horrible man, please do not make him out to be a good guy. He is a bad man. Reedshine's reaction is little weird and she doesn't even consider this thought and goes right back to being lovey dovey with Appledusk. Mapleshade then of course goes on her killing spree before being killed by Pikepaw. Yes, murder is a horrible crime and is never the answer, but cut her at least a little slack. She thought she was seeing and hearing the ghosts of her children, the children others seem to keep trying to convince her that she murdered, the children she watched drown. Warrior Cats makes she-cats give leaders lives for a mothers love, they ADMIT that it is one of the strongest bonds and forms of love. Then after all of this, Mapleshade is the only cat to be sent to the Dark Forest. Not even Oakstar, the cat who would go on to heartlessly murder kittypets, is sent to the Dark Forest. Not Appledusk who cheated on his wives simultaneously, then blamed his wife for the death of her children. No, they sent Frecklewish of all cats to the Dark Forest because she witnessed them drowning. As if she could've down anything without drowning herself?! Again! WTF STARCLAN?! Mapleshade's Vengeance is such an interesting book filled with so many missed opportunities to weave a brilliant story. I wish we had gotten a Super Edition that fully detailed all of the events leading up to this, a book that gave the characters proper characterisation and acknowledged their faults. But that will never happen, but because of this these characters are some of my favorite and least favorite characters simultaneously for what they could've been.
    Thank you if you read this who comment lol. I just scrolled up and realized how long it was XD

  • @Amy-ch4jg
    @Amy-ch4jg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love how Mapleshade doesn't try to justify her actions but shifts the blame onto StarClan- it's a really cool idea that she manipulated Silverpelt.. kinda?? I really like this map, anyway! Good work!

  • @Ghost-yl1yt
    @Ghost-yl1yt ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So you know how when Maple shade creates the dark forest, everyone else runs? I’m guessing they run because they don’t want to get trapped. But maybe in this interpretation/AU Freckle is too close and gets trapped in the dark forest with Mapleshade. And turns dark after being separated from her brother once more

  • @squiddiot5477
    @squiddiot5477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    3:10 That moment when you get so pissed you go super sayan

    • @juneb3rry
      @juneb3rry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Loki God Of Lies underrated comment

    • @margothawkins7618
      @margothawkins7618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When theres another notification on google classroom

  • @maplesaber270
    @maplesaber270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    She went super sain tho

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That's just what you do when ur this mad

    • @ToxicServalFox
      @ToxicServalFox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh

    • @griffincolors8433
      @griffincolors8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Draikinator bruh it’s my mom when I don’t clean the dishes

  • @Draikinator
    @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    FAQ:
    Q - What song is this?
    A - "Touch Tone Telephone" by Neil cicierega AKA Lemon Demon
    Q - who is the cat mapleshade is talking to?
    A - my OC, silverpelt, usually just referred to as "the judge." they represent the judgement of starclan in determining if someone goes to starclan or the dark forest. They first appeared in one of my previous MAPs, "Heartless."
    Q - Why are there comments here from before the video was posted??
    A - My videos are posted early for patrons! For just a dollar, you could have watched this video early, too! :P
    Q - Are you going to run a MAP of this?
    A - Nah
    Q - Can I run a MAP of this?
    A - sure, i guess leave a comment and ask. Must have completed one map in the past. thank
    Q - Can I use part of this animatic to practice animation/redraw?
    A - Sure, but please put a link in the description back to it. thanks!

    • @laststorm1279
      @laststorm1279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I love Sliverpelt *and she isn't even a real character*
      Could I possibly make a fanfiction using Sliverpelt?

    • @officerkitten6349
      @officerkitten6349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You should be free to make what you want

    • @ghost2890
      @ghost2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How did they chose your of silverpelt as the judge, and why sis maple shade say she was the only one who could understand

    • @foxxfurrz
      @foxxfurrz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really like this animatic!
      *But*
      I have few questions too. I don't want to sound rude so sorry if I sound bad. Keep in mind, this is using the headcanon that cats get judged once dead. If my questions sound stupid just know I'm a big idiot.
      Q1- Appledusk died before Mapleshade and he was judged by the silverpelt cat, ultimately leading him to the dark forest. If he ended up there first, how come Mapleshade made the dark forest after? (I mean this part jokingly) Did they
      *PUT HIM ON HOLD???*
      Wheeze.
      No lol jk. But seriously, how come the dark forest was made after he died but still went there?
      Q2a- Why are there starclan judges when there is nothing to judge? I know they must have some sort of ranking system for med cats and leaders because the same cats appeared and make prophecies in the prologues of the books.
      Q2b- Why do you think there was a ranking system for bad cats and good cats? But this is before the dark forest so the judge is the ranking them, but they don't get punished (because there is no place for punishment).
      Q3- So after Mapleshade made the dark forest, do you think the cats that were 'bad' were automatically sent there after the forest fully formed?
      If you see this and answer the questions, thanks for taking the time to look at it and answer.
      We wuv you. UwU

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xxgingarsnupz3363 nope! I have no plans to complete it.

  • @lmorgan982
    @lmorgan982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Love this animatic! I love all animatics you do and I just love the idea of MapleShade passing judgement on StarClan, instead of allowing them to do it to her! Loved it!

  • @windjager2177
    @windjager2177 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even though i do not forgive what you have done, i am quite happy that you blurred them out at the end so they dont get associated with the bad shit uve done.
    Thsnk you, thiugh, for acknowledging all your wrongdoings. Most people would just, even when they are revealed, never talk about them

  • @dreamer9398
    @dreamer9398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ah, Mapleshade. Such a complicated character for the things she done.
    Kinda disappointing that most of comments only lean one sides, either Mapleshade is wrong or right. For me...she's kinda in the middle, honestly. Remind me of a character from Fire Emblem: Three Houses that's a bit similar in their actions that cause a devide in the fandom.

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, more complicated than just "mapleshade did nothing wrong" (she did many things wrong) or "mapleshade deserved it" (she didn't deserve it)

    • @mckaylamarille8630
      @mckaylamarille8630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup, what I like about Mapleshade's Vengeance is how complicated the story and characters are. Nearly all of the main characters contributed to the end result, innocent cats suffering. Mapleshade suffered, but she's not completely innocent, Appledusk, Ravenwing, Frecklewish, and Oakstar all had a part in her going insane, but that doesn't mean they're evil or bad people. Nobody's blameless here, since it's never usually that black and white in any situation.
      (Well except for the kits and Perchpaw, they were kinda bystanders)

  • @sourlylime7538
    @sourlylime7538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    dude
    youre the reason i got plunged into the lemon demon loophole
    thanks

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GOOD

    • @sourlylime7538
      @sourlylime7538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Draikinator you dont know how annoying my friends think i am when i talk about lemon demon to them

    • @wolfiegamerhowls4
      @wolfiegamerhowls4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Draikinator THEY NEED IT DURING QUARNTINE

  • @abandonedchannel961
    @abandonedchannel961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Everyone else: Arguing about what Mapleshade deserved
    Me: Jamming out to the song

  • @cupidheartzz
    @cupidheartzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mapleshade: *makes a place out of her pure anger (the dark forest)*
    The starclan cats and the judge: right what’s all this then?

  • @xxmoon_watcher_from_wofxx7419
    @xxmoon_watcher_from_wofxx7419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    3:28 god I love this pose, the teeth are beautiful

  • @HankageHill
    @HankageHill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    waddup slug

    • @sushidraws9478
      @sushidraws9478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yo man you're like the guy playing on a switch in the middle of the ww3 battlezone, you aight?

    • @HankageHill
      @HankageHill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sushidraws9478 i'm cool man thanks for asking :)

  • @rewzaianimates1136
    @rewzaianimates1136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    StarClan cats: So um basically..
    Mapleshade: *Creates dark forest*
    Starclan cats: Ah fuck, I can’t believe you’ve done this

  • @its_lyra1834
    @its_lyra1834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the first animatic that ever made me cry, you really out-did yourself! This is a beautiful Mapleshade animatic, and you created a great AU! If this is how the dark forest came to be, it would be really awesome! I love how you added Silverpelt :>

  • @francis6333
    @francis6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Your anamatics never fail to impress me, amazing work once again! Expressive, fluid and beautiful :)

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! I love making animatics and storyboard type stuff, I really want to do more of those in the future

    • @francis6333
      @francis6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Draikinator I can't wait to see them!

  • @yasminguimaraesmartinsvald8955
    @yasminguimaraesmartinsvald8955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I ADORE the Judge character! I already really liked the idea in the Heartless MAP, but they get so much more characterization here! I love it! And the idea that Mapleshade brought forth the Dark Forest is beautiful, I love it, it's cannon now!

  • @aidendino
    @aidendino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly, i never imagine that fact of Mapleshade, I never imagined that she would feel disappointed and betrayed not only by Appledusk and her clan, but also by Starclan itself
    This AMV give me a lot of ideas and inspiration :'0

  • @WholeWheetBread
    @WholeWheetBread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    0:51 Is it just me or did I hear space Nazis?

  • @Stormwolf4
    @Stormwolf4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:11 When shit starts going down and after that the pure emotions that you show from Mapleshade are my absolute favorite! I LOVE THE EMOTIONS YOU SHOW WITH HER!

  • @Mor1moo
    @Mor1moo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Everyone here be talking about the animatic
    Am I the only one who is just freaking out because it’s a song by lemon demon..??

  • @Numba1Fernfan
    @Numba1Fernfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Crazy old lady screaming in heaven then creates hell

  • @BrotherBeeArt
    @BrotherBeeArt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I love the concept of the judge, and I hope that I can see more similar to this! I love your art style and how expressive you make the characters, it's all amazing^^

  • @WORMPRIEST
    @WORMPRIEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    To be honest, I don't really like Mapleshade. Like, I get it, you want vengence for your dead children. That's fine, I'd want some too, but murdering innocent cats (besides Appledusk) that were sort of related to your exile? Nah man, Frecklewish didn't deserve that, neither did Ravenwing. Plus, did she know it was flood season? If not, okay. But if so, what the heck was she thinking? 3 kits born like 3 months ago crossing a possibly floodable river in the middle of the night? I guess I just find it difficult to understand why she's so popular, and how people can just say her actions were justified. I like Nate's animatic, and no hate to them, but Im just confused on how people can label Mapleshade's clearly wrong actions as justified.
    Side Note: her exile was completely justified in my opinion. Of course Oakstar and the clan would be upset, you had children with the man who murdered your son and lied about how he was the father of your sin children?
    :/
    So yeah, Mapleshade is a poopy head.

    • @yourentrancingempress3914
      @yourentrancingempress3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't support Mapleshade’s actions, but she had hallucinations in the books that her kits were telling her to kill, so she thinks they're supporting her.

    • @WORMPRIEST
      @WORMPRIEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yourentrancingempress3914 Oh shoot, I didn't think of that. I can't really disagree. So I suppose we can sort of(?) pin the murders on her rough and hallucinatory state of mind. Idk..

    • @cosmichail
      @cosmichail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of Villains actions aren’t really justified tbh lel
      (I haven’t read the book in awhile ack so correct me)
      I think she’s popular due to being the first female villain, a queen to be in fact. And her story was unique compared to most other villains or that might be just me lel.
      I think she’s cool in my opinion, her reasons are terrible but she’s pretty kool-
      She kinda reminds me of a legend of how a mother drowned her children and god punished her to stay as a ghost forever till she finds the bodies of her children-

    • @WORMPRIEST
      @WORMPRIEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cosmichail Yeah, I think she was actually pretty awesome in Crookedstar's promise, and she was really cool in the DF during OOTS, but I find it kinda hard to like her in Mapleshade's Vengeance 🤷‍♀️

    • @ethanexehascrashed
      @ethanexehascrashed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WORMPRIEST yeah true

  • @moxi3084
    @moxi3084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is insane! mapleshade is my favorite character, touch tone telephone is my favorite song, and you are my favorite warriors artist. literally most perfect video ever

  • @Terrortism
    @Terrortism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even if darkinator quit, I could watch all these videos over and over again like they were new videos and be satisfied

  • @Cinnamink
    @Cinnamink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I adore this! Like, the whole concept is amazing :0
    And honest to god, I've missed your Warriors content. I sincerely hope that eventually things will die down and you can return to making more projects like you used to, even if there's less than half as many. Welcome back.

    • @holly205
      @holly205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kamiko Rae Agreed

    • @jordanr.852
      @jordanr.852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

    • @galyzuwu7766
      @galyzuwu7766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont really agree, but okay

  • @despaircore
    @despaircore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I missed your AU ideas so damn much!
    Even if you're not back in the fandom, this animatic is still really good and I'm happy that you made this one public ~

  • @weewoo4384
    @weewoo4384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    DONT SAY you are not in the fandom and are stepping back from it then proceed to fucking make an animatic. I can’t tell you what you can and cant post but really?? fuckin’ really?

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok.

  • @Artyskepty
    @Artyskepty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You need to stop waving stuff like this in the faces of the people you hurt. Go put it on another channel, holy shit, it's not that hard.

  • @Tinivee
    @Tinivee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This entire video lives rent free in my head at all times

  • @Pidgepurr
    @Pidgepurr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    First of all, this animatic is truly wonderful. Secondly are you going to return to making warriors videos, i know you said in the past you would not but you’ve posted two warriors videos this month so i didn’t know if that was still the case.

  • @mist3614
    @mist3614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is such a good way to utilize the high-energy, chaotic music lemon demon creates. i love this. so much. absolutely amazing

  • @fi6432
    @fi6432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how the line work got darker, and so did the background, as it progressed.

  • @crowbaby9565
    @crowbaby9565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought the spinning was gonna suddenly stop on her spotting her kits and I was fully ready to cry

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, but if you look closely at the BEGINNING of the spinning you WILL see them. Unfortunately, at this point, she is too blinded by her anger and her hatred to see anything clearly.

    • @ethanexehascrashed
      @ethanexehascrashed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Draikinator OH MY GOD NO THATS SO SAD😭

  • @fi6432
    @fi6432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love everything about this, especially the part where she tilts her head way back when saying radio. :D

  • @IronycheinPain
    @IronycheinPain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    When you want to host this as a MAP but your MAP is not even done: Oh I'm crying out authentic tears :"">

  • @FrayaDewwey2021
    @FrayaDewwey2021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I see or hear how mapleshade became who she was, I keep thinking how cruel every cat was to her and how she tried to justify her actions with whatever she did. Claiming it was for her kits or to seek justice where she was unjustly ruled with no help whatsoever. Her story is really sad and dark at the same time. Put it to human terms, it has been proven by science that if you make someone angry enough they can and will kill people even if they were angels before. Her story makes complete sense if you see it like that and that she was angry and sad enough that she went from being a good cat and mother to a "Monster" in every other cats eyes. I love how nicely its portrayed in this video bc that's all I've ever seen her as for years!! Great work and I love your style!!

  • @lithe8152
    @lithe8152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm so glad you feel able to continue to make things you love!!! Not only because I missed the Warriors content you made, but also how passionate about it you always were. We missed how excited you would get over them.

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The other week someone got me started on a 45 minute mapleshade tangent so like, as usual, I just can't shut up

    • @lithe8152
      @lithe8152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol honestly same. I'm so glad to see you back!

  • @laggyweb6866
    @laggyweb6866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    [3:32] MapleShade: "I just gotta say- "[Snaps neck] "Oh, nevermind."

  • @Overlord9332
    @Overlord9332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve probably commented on this video before on a different yt account like a million times but it’s honestly what set me on my path to becoming a TH-camr/artist. Every time I watch it it just brings back memories and inspiration.

  • @lilyminer9164
    @lilyminer9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Oh, well I’m happy to see more warriors art from you Nate! Personally I think you might still want to stay far away from the fandom, as this comment section shows you are still very unwelcome by other fans. But I don’t really blame them, just stay humble and know people have the right to criticize you no matter how many times you say sorry. But I’m here for you for the most part.

    • @thundersheart7801
      @thundersheart7801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where’s the fricken people who are criticizing? I can’t seem to see that BS underneath all of the compliments other are giving

  • @pazdeflore
    @pazdeflore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Aaa I love this! You drew the expressions so well as well as the body language! The story is really interesting and creative I love it! And even if some people disagree I still love your warriors content💕

  • @AroBlackCat
    @AroBlackCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "All of the characters except the kits were villains in this story!"
    *Ravenwing and Frecklewish: Did literally nothing wrong, Frecklewish even defending Mapleshade at the beginning and Ravenwing just being a medicine cat trying to do his job*

  • @gremlininblue2601
    @gremlininblue2601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really love the idea of Mapleshade having created the Dark Forest

  • @junctiondraws7025
    @junctiondraws7025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    just a thought... the darkness/redness that spread out from mapleshade in starclan was able to catch some of the cats there that also pergaps deserved it

  • @kageshiryu7537
    @kageshiryu7537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this literally has been and will always be, my favorite warrior cats animatic. everything about it is awesome. the concept, the art, the execution. Stellar. Thank you for making and sharing this!

  • @emmagrenz321
    @emmagrenz321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my GOSH i love this animatic so much, probably the best one ive ever watched ( no exaggeration ) i love the idea of Mapleshade having a judge and creating the dark forest, its a all so good!

  • @Echosong-87
    @Echosong-87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Free will. The judge cannot stop free will.
    N they live in a world full of darkness.. Even the most purest have some form of wickedness in their hearts..
    The clans have forgotten their code. Leave no kit behind. Regardless of which clan they're from.

  • @alycat42_17
    @alycat42_17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm happy you did this I was really sad when you stopped posting warriors content, as I loved your AU's and map ideas. I understand what happened, you made a mistake and dispite what some people think everyone makes mistakes. The difference is wiether or not your willing to admit you made them. Which you did. I don't think you should have to stop doing what you love because you made one.
    And I also believe you do not disurve all the hate you get for it (and before any of you in the comments comment on this I am not some little kid who doesn't know what happened or what I'm talking about, I just differ in opinions then you. Deal With It.)

    • @sushidraws9478
      @sushidraws9478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yuriko :3 Sorry, but the adults aren't handling this like adults. If your definition of being an adult is taking time out of your day to harass and make someone feel miserable then you have a very negative outlook on life and I hope that changes for the better. What you're doing is not justice or revenge for victims. It is suicide encouragement and harassment.

    • @alycat42_17
      @alycat42_17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuriko3977 like I said I am not some kid who doesn't know what their talking about, I don't know how old you are and I'd rather not disclose my age so I can prove it but just because my opinion differs then yours doesn't mean I'm nieve

    • @alycat42_17
      @alycat42_17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tocixx I never said it did

    • @Frostwing
      @Frostwing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dude they literally did a crime O_O

  • @SnakedSea
    @SnakedSea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Actually goes to starclan*
    AHEM-

  • @unknowndoodles4028
    @unknowndoodles4028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really cool! UwU the characters have so much expression in there body and Faces which is really nice to watch

  • @Liam_2416
    @Liam_2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    When I saw this was a Mapleshade pmv I was so happy that u posted something Warrior Cats themed. But before I was all "U JOINED BACK INTO WARRIOR CATS!?!" I read the description 1st and now I understand. Planning on making a bit more Warrior Cats content of not, I'm still very happy that u made this.
    Oh! If I'm not mistaken, u said u dont even know what books came out (or if u were joking). The books that came out are Squrirrlflights Hope, Lost Stars and The Silent Thaw 😊

  • @powdersanddagreat781
    @powdersanddagreat781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YAWSSSS IVE FINALY FOUND SOMEONE THAT ANIMATED THIS SONG ITS SO GUUDD

  • @tiredlazyvirgo1211
    @tiredlazyvirgo1211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how the starclan cat is like: "wtf"

  • @Masking_masker-masky
    @Masking_masker-masky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tbh mapleshade deserves it i mean she was dumb enough to cross the river instead of going to the 2 legged place and there was no raids it was just once and why would riverclan care about her she also broke the rule and i know appledusk is guilt tripping everyone thats bad she killed like 7 people bacause they betrayed her even tho she lied about her kits being oakstars son oh and manipulated a she cat she derserves it she's just like blossomfall but more kill everyone but i like this unless someone can make an au of mapleshade in the 2 legged place i don't know

    • @HeartShapedCaskets
      @HeartShapedCaskets 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. She killed 3 cats. Ravenwing, Frecklewish, and Appledusk. And Oakstar was doing MANY raids on two-leg place, and kittypets were attacking back. It was way to dangerous for her to go there with small kits, and crossing the river? She had no other choice, it was already late at night, and if she was seen in the territory at sunrise, they would of killed her. She had no choice. There was no where she could go, and she knew it was a bit dangerous, but she went to protect her kits, hell, she even tried carrying Patchkit across. I think she should of carried one across at a time, it could of gone better. Maybe she'd only loose one kit.

    • @Masking_masker-masky
      @Masking_masker-masky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HeartShapedCaskets no oakstar Didn't raid the 2 leg place this happend AFTER her death but oakstar was a dick and broke the rules hell i think one of the kittypets would have welcomed her to join because they would feel pity for them and helped them

  • @spookyluck6957
    @spookyluck6957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People are so dramatic. Please, if you have a problem with Draikinator, keep your conflicts with them private. This has nothing to do in a public place like TH-cam. The majority of the fandom has nothing to do with this.

  • @slugfishh
    @slugfishh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    starclan: "alright so you just went on an unjustified killing spree, right after knowingly breaking the law. what do you have to say for yourself?"
    mapleshit: "lol u never told me i was breaking the law with applemusk so everything is your fault and i got nothing to say to you XD gtg make evil forest X3 baii"
    starclan: "w h a t"

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think that's a bit unfair- mapleshade broke a rule, yes, but she wasn't trying to avoid being punished for it. She said again and again she always intended to tell the truth when it would be safe to do so, when she would be judged for her crimes and her kits would not have to grow up with the stigma looking over them. When ravenwing confronted her and told her he was going to tell oakstar the truth, mapleshade even said in her inner monologue that she had always intended to tell the truth and this was earlier than she had wanted but she was prepared to accept fair punishment, even expecting to be banished- but she hadn't anticipated the banishment of her innocent two month old children. Putting kits in danger is against the warrior code, and oakstar knowingly banished three exhausted children into the night during a storm- that's against the code. Starclan could have sent the sign about her having broken that rule before then, or after, or during the next day. They could have told oakstar that he shouldn't banish the children, or warned mapleshade not to cross the river. And mapleshade knew she was breaking a rule by being with appledusk, but she felt the rule was unjust- she said over and over again she felt her kits could help end the war between their clans, and she believed fully that starclan supported her because they had sent her no signs she was doing anything wrong which... Well, is kind of their job, to guide cats, especially a cat who is actively looking for signs to guide their decisions.
      And there's plenty of cats who also broke that rule that we as a reader are meant to sympathize with- it's not a rule that's treated in canon as irredeemable. Mapleshade was a murderer and a bad person, don't get me wrong, but I really feel that she was pushed to be so by terrible circumstances. She clearly went mad after her kits deaths. There's a pretty noteable change in her personality

    • @lennydavis3819
      @lennydavis3819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Draikinator Bruv tf are you on about? Maple shade was a shitty character and is really overrated. There’s no use in defending em.

    • @slugfishh
      @slugfishh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Draikinator Her sobstory justifies nothing, she allowed herself to become a murderer and deserved what she got in the end. Nothing excuses what she did. Mapleshade is a toxic character and that's that. The other cats with illegal relationships didn't resort to coldblooded murder, and if they did, just like mapleshade they wouldn't get my sympathy.

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slugfishh oh i totally agree, she absolutely deserved what she got

    • @aminaharris6486
      @aminaharris6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Maple shade turning around on a swivel chair like the villain she is:
      *"A P P L E M U S K. "*

  • @yudream6570
    @yudream6570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow ! This is so amazing my god ! *^* can’t wait to see it finished !! *^* keep going !

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao yeah I'm not finishing it haha, that would take forever. It's finished as is, tho like if anyone wants to use a shot for animation practice or something and finish it they're welcome to

  • @G0thic_W0lf
    @G0thic_W0lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    0:52
    Hold up, did they just say “space nazi’s”? Lol! I cracked up 🤣

    • @G0thic_W0lf
      @G0thic_W0lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Professional Occhiolist
      Nice👌

  • @Teddy-mu5pw
    @Teddy-mu5pw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve watched this over 500 times in the past 4 days. Help. I’m addicted. It’s sooooooooo gooood!!!!!

  • @bongz6544
    @bongz6544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    mapleshade deserves to go to the dark forest

  • @captainshadowfox
    @captainshadowfox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ya know what, Starclan is the worst when you look at it closely. Fuck, they could make a cat have visions of their friends death and can’t do anything about it. This is why, I’m Anti-Starclan

  • @WhirlwindOwO
    @WhirlwindOwO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG this is one of the best mapleshade aus i ever seen! Keep it up uwu

  • @casualfridays4051
    @casualfridays4051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Aw shit here we go again

  • @caramelpawthewarriorcat2675
    @caramelpawthewarriorcat2675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this! I hope you will make more warriors content, but it's your choice and at your own pace.

  • @lccomics1499
    @lccomics1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Yknow this is very intresting......
    Mapleshade seemed so willing to join the darkforest, hateing starclan for what they have done.
    And the starclan judger seemed so sympathetic, but had to accept the fact that she is evil. She went insane.
    I do like to imagen she gets some sort of chance to join her kits in starclan. But this is alot more intresting then "she killed so she's in the dark forest now"

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Their big feeling is like, shame, acknowledging she is definitely evil but that they did fail her, they didn't protect her like they were meant to and that this could have been avoided if they had stepped in. I wanted it to definitely be clear she is a villain, but also a tragic one

  • @shadow__thing
    @shadow__thing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:30...microvave

  • @Xx_FluffyBunni_xX
    @Xx_FluffyBunni_xX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Listen you've had your punishment and hopefully learned your lesson. Everyone deserves a second chance and while I thought it was an accident to begin with I understand why some people thought you should have consequences. But you've had your fair share of punishments and how you should be able to move on and do better. This is great work, keep it up 💞 Dont let people discourage you, those who act like they've never done anything wrong before. Just do your best and be kind to people.

    • @Nauro
      @Nauro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And yet there are still people suffering to this day from Nate's actions. I and my friend group are some of them, what they did has long term lasting effects. And will not be okay with those people, please don't put us down because you like a youtuber.

    • @Nauro
      @Nauro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@artfromspace8798 The group I'm talking about was very close with Nate at one time. We have watched everything unfold since then. And what we seen hasn't show much change, trust me I wish I felt differently about everything

    • @destinydynamites
      @destinydynamites 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nauro sorry if this seems rude but what are the long last effects

  • @animemaven3571
    @animemaven3571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the idea of Silverpelt being the judge of Starclan holy moly

  • @blueseafox9566
    @blueseafox9566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mapleshade: *Get angry at Starclan , Her Rage Becomes Wild Spreading Over half of Starclans territory and Therefore Becomes The darkforest*
    The Judge: Oh Frick........Were screwed

  • @berry7939
    @berry7939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    woah woah woah-that ending!I loved it!It was,well,amazing.I like how it shows why mapleshade believes she should go to starclan-and its just-gr8.

    • @phoskar
      @phoskar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inkycashew You shouldn't wrote this comment if you are as intelligent as adult person.

  • @zinniaz05
    @zinniaz05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    bruh

    • @Frostwing
      @Frostwing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      exactly wtf

    • @cherrybombanimates1591
      @cherrybombanimates1591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude. They did do something disgusting but that doesn’t mean they can’t like something.

    • @maplefoxxo
      @maplefoxxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cherrybombanimates1591 they did promise to stop making content.

    • @maplefoxxo
      @maplefoxxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thekittybeans Yeah, they still did promise. (Idk what else to say eh)

  • @agenericyoutubeaccount
    @agenericyoutubeaccount 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't know any of the drama that's been going on, and frankly, I'm glad for that. You just keep doing what you love, and as long as you ain't hurting no one, I won't mind, and hell, I might even enjoy the things you make
    Great drawings, as always, and truly an,, interesting concept for how the whole StarClan/Dark Forest thing works

    • @honeybeehomicide6760
      @honeybeehomicide6760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They sent NSFW art to a minor about warriors, traumatizing the victim then making it about themselves. They also have attacked children verbally and lash out unfairly at critism, and have been abusive and manipulative to people long before that. They unlisted the apology video, and have promised their leaving the fandom and not posting any warriors content anymore due to it.

    • @XX-nl9sx
      @XX-nl9sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@honeybeehomicide6760 They thought the minor was 22, they didn't know they were underage. Now I'm NOT saying that that makes it acceptable nor do I mean to downplay the victims trauma. But KNOWINGLY sending a minor nsfw and sending it without knowing if they're a minor are two completely different beasts. Not to say Drakinator is innocent or not a douche, I just think its fair to make that distinction

  • @Aesurii
    @Aesurii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much
    I love this song after listening to it once,
    I played it several times, atleast 5 times a day
    or even 9.

  • @ellagraves1717
    @ellagraves1717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wouldn’t it be cool...
    If Drakinator’s OC was the creator of Starclan... *think about it*

  • @lynxis46
    @lynxis46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For people who don't know what's happening: mapleshade is being judged by an star clan cat but as she explains she realised she does not have to explain as the star clan should have showed her a sign that she was doing something wrong during the events of her life ( she shows all that has happened and asked the star clan cat why they haven't done anything to tell her these bad things would happend) mapleshade judged the starclan cats and out of her hatred the dark forest was born ( i hope i got it right and i hope it helped) also if it didn't help, look in the description

    • @Draikinator
      @Draikinator ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! Exactly. The judge asks her to explain why she deserves to go to starclan and she says why do you have the right to judge me when I asked you to guide me and you didn't? You could have prevented this and you didn't. You don't have the right to judge me now.

    • @lynxis46
      @lynxis46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Draikinator omg 😱😱😱😱 you responded yay!!!! Also thank you :D

  • @bearstacean
    @bearstacean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thankyou so much for making warriors content again. Even if it’s not your main content. It’s bullshit people kicked you out of the fandom. I hope this is received with the love it deserves

    • @sydsartcorner
      @sydsartcorner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HollyBearr do you know why they were kicked out?

    • @bearstacean
      @bearstacean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beaver Pawz yes

  • @imnotrealanym0re
    @imnotrealanym0re 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ^w^ it made me really happy to see Mapleshade in your art again! This was a really good animatic! You did great!!!

  • @brutthefatcatkatti9514
    @brutthefatcatkatti9514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:33 *S N A P*

  • @ivyshadesnursery
    @ivyshadesnursery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeeeeeesssssssss!!!!!!!! More Warriors!!!!!!! I swear you don't know how happy I am to see this!!!!