Frigg and Freyja are the same Goddess?
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- Is Frigg and Freyja two aspects of the same deity?
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G'day Arith. I hope this finds you well. I agree wholeheartedly. I spent 20+ years chasing the Christian religion, only to realize it was a fools errand. Today, the closest I get to "religiosity" is following the seasonal round with a slight nod to the Celtic traditions. Rather than Atheist, I refer my stance to Rational Humanist. As a retired Working Class Hero, who was often heard to say "TGIF", I find the Myth of Freyja somewhat appealing, in a Santa Claus sort of way. Peace and Love and Stay safe, dear friend.
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This is Freemason propaganda. All culture is based on Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz. That’s because Devil worshippers rule the world.
Before Frija got into existence there was Nerthus and Tamfana. These were 2 vanic protogermanic goddesses, either 2 faces of the same goddess or 2 goddesses symbolising separate parts of the cycle of life. Waxing/waning tides of the seasons and nature's cycles.
Tamfana's name survived and her name is used by Tacitus, as is Nerthus's and both share the same elements in the sacrificial (euthanization) ceremonies. Only Nerthus being spring and life and Tamfana being autumn/death. Both names are used and described that they had a massive influence of the religious beliefs of the germanic tribes. She/they was/were mother earth herself.
These 2 later on developed into Frija. If you want to dig deeper into the origins of Freya, I am willing to offer some sources that are local in our region (Twente/lower Saxony).
Thank you .. I have been connected to this goddess for more than 20 years and agree that Frigg is the domesticated version of Freya. There is also a difference in the energies of the Norse and Teutonic. Your videos puts everything nicely in place and answers a lot of inner questions. I don't come from these cultures and have a strong love for this goddess. Speaking and understanding the languages should also make it easier.
Great video. Odin and Freyja are both my patron deities.
Thank you 😄
i think those gods are the same cult to the archons, so the valknut is the same trinity put it in the others myhologies, for example Baal, San Val-entine, Val- halla, die for the paradise like islam is a glory, but i think is a sacrifice to this archons o deitys of the low astral, Val-Nut same pyramide, of dollar, providence eye, and trinity etc. Carni- Val another cult with the same name Baal.so what dou you think about all this?, and you have videos about hiperboria? i think is a llie and satanic cult to saturn o saturday, the sabbath Yaveh, Enlil etc. is the same way, cult the black sun or black cube, chronos etc. great video im from venezuela keep it up the good work.
One aspect that I heard is that the name Frigga was a pet name that Óðinn gave to Freya, and that it ment beloved, which would make more sense that they are both one in the same
What a beautiful idea, I love this, thank you for sharing Michael ☺️
@@SpookifulAriel you're very welcome
@@TheEKKDAIFF no, i've heard this from other sources as well.
I know this was the explanation they gave in God Of War--in the most cynical way possible--but I'd like to think it works historically as well.
maybe the reverse of that... *Frejya being a term of endearment (and/or Title) given to Frigga.
I think they were probably the same goddess to many who followed this belief system, but there probably were some tribes that separated them. To have a mother goddess and also a separate younger version.
Edit; yes, the different aspects being worshipped is what I was getting at. Keep it up Arith!
Thank you 😁
The eddic poem Lokasenna informs us that Freyr was the offspring of an incestuous union. He is the child of Njörd and the sea-god’s own unnamed sister. In strophe 36 of that poem, Loki says:
"Hættu nú, Njörðr,
haf þú á hófi þik,
munk-a ek því leyna lengr:
við systur þinni
gaztu slíkan mög,
ok er-a þó vánu verr."
"
Cease now, Njörd!
contain yourself;
I will no longer keep it secret:
With your sister
you had such a son;
and he is hardly worse than you.”
Ynglingasaga ch. 4 affirms this relationship, stating that “while Njörd lived with the Vanir he had his sister as wife, because that was the custom among them. Their children were Freyr and Freyja. But among the Aesir it was forbidden to marry so close akin.” Thus, when Njörd came to live among the Aesir, he could no longer keep his sister as his wife. Unfortunately, Njörd’s sister remains unnamed in our fragmentary sources, although the original audience must have known who she was. Possible candidates have been suggested, including Njärð, a feminine form of the name found only in the East Nordic area under such place-names as Närlunda, and Njörun, a “goddess-name” used as a base in some kennings and so included in a list of ásynjur in the þular attached to Snorri’s Edda. But, among scholars who have hazarded a guess historically, most have identified Njörd’s unnamed sister as Nerthus, “that is, Mother Earth”, since the two names are etymologically related. Edgar Polomé (1999) sought to reject the connection between Nerthus and Njǫrðr on linguistic grounds, but his conclusions were not generally accepted. As we have seen, the comparison runs much deeper than just linguistic correspondence. Even if the etymological link is rejected, continuity may be argued on the grounds of their associations with bodies of water, wagons, and fertility. In the available sources, the religious wagon procession is most closely connected with Nerthus and Njörd’s son Freyr, and a wide range of evidence supports the veneration of a male-female divine pair associated with fertility across northern Europe. While we cannot determine the name of Njörd’s sister with certainty, we do discover a brother of the earth-goddess whose name may prove relevant to our investigation. In Gylfaginning 10, Snorri informs us that Jörd’s brother was called Auðr, a name that means “wealth.” As a mythic personality, Auðr is likewise unknown. However, we find auðr as a characteristic attribute of Njörd. In a proverbial expression from Vatsdaela Saga 47, a wealthy man is said to be auðigr sem Njörðr:
Þá mælti Þróttólfr: “Eigi skiptir þat högum til, at Húnrøðr, góðr drengr, skal vera félauss orðinn ok hlotit þat mest af okkr, en þræll hans, Skúmr, skal orðinn auðigr sem Njörðr.
Then Throttolf said, ‘It is not as it should be that Hunrod, a good man, should have become penniless, mostly on our account, while his slave Skum grows as rich as Njörd.’
In her commentary on Lokasenna, Ursula Dronke (1997) observed: “The sea is a rich giver, and Njörðr, its god, is proverbially wealthy.” In Gylfaginning 23, Snorri informs us that Njörd “rules over the motion of the wind and moderates the sea and fire. Men pray to him for good voyages and fishing. He is so rich and wealthy that he can grant wealth of land or possessions to those that pray to him.” In addition, the Codex Regius manuscript of Gylfaginning 10 contains a significant variant. There the name Auðr reads Uðr, a proper name equivalent to Unnr, which means “wave.” Richard North (1997) has pointed out that in the Codex Regius, Codex Trajectinus, and Codex Wormianus manuscripts of Snorri’s Edda, the name Idunn is spelled iðvðr, in which -vðr is a fourteenth century spelling of -unnr (‘wave’). Thus the name of Jörd’s brother may be interpreted as either “wealth” or “wave,” names which apply equally to Njörd as a god of rich coastal harbors. So, although the name of Njörd’s sister is lost to us, we have strong circumstantial evidence that Njörd (aka Auðr, Uðr, Unnr) was Jörd’s brother. Since we have discovered that Jörd is also a byname of Frigg, we can surmise that Njörd and Frigg are siblings. At once this explains the apparent relationship between the names Njörd and Nerthus. Indeed they are a pair as many scholars have theorized, not unlike their own children, Freyr and Freyja. As Njörd’s sister, Frigg is not only the mother of Freyr and Freyja, but also the mother of Odin’s sons, Baldur and Thor. Thus, she is truly the Mother of the Gods.
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The most interesting subject, you are a very good teacher! Thanks for all, congratulations I wish you luck my friend Arith
It depends when, and where in Northwestern Europe you were located, you asked the question. For the early Germanic tribes, they were one, but by the time of Poetic Edda, specifically, the Lokasenna. In the Lokasenna, we see Loki exchange insults with the other gods, with Loki calling out each god in turn. Loki insults both Frigg and Freyja in turn, thus it would seem odd for the author(s) of the Lokasenna to have Loki, first Frigg, then several other gods, and then circle back to insult Freyja. For the Scandinavian peoples, Freyja was a Vanir and Frigg a Aesir as we also see in the Voluspa during the Aesir-Vanir War.
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for putting this video together. Greetings from South Africa.
Thank you! And a big hug to south africa! 😄
Thanks for all of your information! I’m trying to learn more about my Scandinavian heritage including their worship of pagan gods. Your videos are super helpful!
I always see references to Frigg spinning on a wheel, but weren't spindles used mostly?
Yes, Loom, Spindles, Balls of Yarn and Distaffs. The spinning wheel came much later when modern and contemporanean artistic representations of Frigg started to be create.
We need to look back into Vedic. Frigga is from Priya both mean beloved. Frey and Freja are from Vedic Pajaapati. It means husband or lord of the power of fertility or exspansion. Frey and Freja are the male and female forms of Prjaapati. Frigga is a seperate godess. Both simular yes but are they the same? No
In Ukrainian mythology Pryja is the Goddess of love and war. She is Perun's wife.
I think Freya and Pryja/Boria are the same things in different lands.
While Earth is well-known as “the wife of Odin” in skaldic kennings (some 19 times), it should be noted that Odin is never called “the husband of Earth.” Instead, he is designated as the “husband of Frigg” three times corroborating what we know from other sources:
angan Friggjar, “‘delight of Frigg,” Völuspá 56
faðmbyggvir Friggjar, “dweller in Frigg’s embrace,” Haraldskvæði 12
frumverr Friggjar, “foremost husband of Frigg,” Hallfreðr vandræðaskald, Lv.
To this list, I am tempted to add faðir Baldrs, “Baldur’s father”, since Baldur is famously the son of Frigg. While Odin is known to have had other lovers than his wife Frigg, there can be little doubt that the first thing that would have occurred to a heathen audience hearing the expression “Odin’s wife” would have been his constant companion since the earliest recorded sources. Godan (Odin) and Frea (Frigg) first appear as husband and wife in the eighth century History of the Lombards. They next appear together on German soil in the tenth century Second Merseberg Charm as Wotan and Frija. On Iceland, a tenth century skaldic kenning refers to the gods as Friggjar niðja, “Frigg’s progeny.” In eddic poetry, she and Odin appear together as husband and wife in Völuspá, Grimnismál, Vafþrúðnismál, Lokasenna, and Hrafnagaldur Oðins. A generation before Snorri Sturlusson composed his Edda, the Danish historian Saxo Grammaticus also presents them as husband and wife. In contrast, Odin and Jörd are never shown together. Unlike Frigg, Jörd does not make an appearance in any known myth.
In skaldic poetry, we thus encounter a logical paradox without precedent. There the recurrent poetic paraphrase “Odin’s wife”, which means “Earth”, rather than characterizing Odin’s traditional spouse as the earth-goddess, is exclusively interpreted as a reference to a virtually unknown giantess! Because Snorri presents Frigg and Jörd as distinct personalities, we have been conditioned to think of them as separate entities. Thus, in skaldic poetry, we take most references to Earth literally, accepting that she is Thor's mother, Aud's sister, Dag’s sister, and Annar's daughter, except in one case -the most frequently occurring- where we are supposed to take the designation figuratively. Although Loki addresses Frigg as Viðris kvæn, “Vidrir’s (Odin’s) wife” in the eddic poem Lokasenna (st. 26), we are expected to interpret the same kenning in skaldic verse as one, and only one, of his giantess-concubines. In skaldic poetry alone, the expressions: “Odin's wife, bride, lady, beloved, bedmate,” etc. are exclusively taken to mean Earth (Jörð). Yet in all other poetic and prose sources, “Odin’s wife” is understood to mean the goddess Frigg. This is not only illogical, but unnecessary. Following the same reasoning, we could just as easily understand the term "Odin's wife" to mean any female with whom Odin has had sexual relations. Instead of referring exclusively to Jörd, we might imagine that the kennings in question indicated Frigg, Gunnlöd or Rind, since, by this definition, they too are Odin's "wives." Yet this is clearly not the case. In the context of skaldic poetry, the expression “Odin’s wife” obviously indicates the Earth. Since Frigg is recognized as Odin’s wife in every other instance, it seems reasonable to conclude that Odin’s wife Frigg is identical to Jörd, the Earth. Only Snorri’s statements in the Prose Edda prevent us from drawing this conclusion with confidence.
I almost missed this as I had no notification from YT :-/ thankfully I saw it on your site. Interesting comparison and totally logical connections between the two. We understand that Freja was ransomed after the Aesir/Vnir war and what better way to ransom or keep the peace than to marry, as was a popular tactic in maedieval Europe.
Arith the word that you need to use is not synchronitised but synchronised (the pp of synchronise). When we pronounce ch it is ch (tch but the t is not hard as German). I have often heard the Portuguese say Manshester United here and I know the difficulty. Think of the word chair but do not say it as Cher, the plastic dummy. Ihope that this helps you with your English, my friend and padawan.
It would be good if, as a change, you said the introduction in Swedish as you do the finale or better still, let my old friend Mr T do an intro in Swedish or even Scot's Gaelic as he purports to be Scottish.
Lol the plastic dummy xD . Thank you my friend for both your support and help. Yes it would be cool making an intro with Mr. T. although lately I haven't been in the mood to call upon him, but i'll manage it.
Hello Mr. Arith! I'm positively surprised whith your work, congratulations once again, i love the subject, and of course the mean of your words! Fantastic, great. Thanks
Hey! Thank you very much! 😁
4:02 'You can still worship them as two distinct aspects of the same goddesses! This is what happening in Hinduism as well! Goddess Parvati has sooo many names, soo many functions and sooo many titles that sometimes it seems like all of those names actually signify different goddesses. And of course Christianity applied the same reasoning here as well. They said oh c'mon goddess Kali is a blood thirsty war loving goddess she can't be all lovey dovey like Parvati! Bruh every soldier after returning home from war spends quality time with his/ her spouse even to this day! And they also try to imply many other denigrating and insulting words to goddesses which I don't even want to mention here.
I know it's been two years too late for commenting here but I felt it when you said how they tried to take down Freyja's cult. They did the same with Parvati as well. And well Ishtar, Isis, Ameterasu etc cults are also getting taken down day by day!
I don't think mythology and religion really have any absolutes. It is a living and evolving body of belief. It seems pretty clear that Freyja and Frigg have a common source, but I think they have since been divided. I prefer to address Freyja and Frigg as separate beings because they seem to represent separate aspects of femininity. But maybe that is the thing, women have a domestic nature and a wild nature.
You got that right, religion is always evolving, pagan religions evolved faster than others and accompany quite well our modern realities
I just hope it doesn't get to the point like where we are with the arts. Movies,books,music it's all bleeding in to this mass. There are few wonders left.
Would you then consider Holle and or Perchta as other names of Frigg? Or other aspects of her?
Posting this comment at the beginning of the video, this is something I've believed for a couple years now didn't know my favorite TH-camr had a video on it!
I love the perspective you is have presented in respect of frigg/ freya and her relationship with ing and woden, it has really helped me in my journey.
What are your perspectives on her also being nerthus, or did she take nerthus's place in as a child would when a parent ages.
It defiantly seems that the common man worshiped the vanir more than the aesir but this changed as the tribes had to push outwards for land.
You shared the wife's bed? A rather high standard of hospitality. Does explain part of the Heimdall visiting Midgard story.
Heimdalr was a lucky god; being handsome has its advantages.
No one would want to visit me. Make me share my wife's bed, let's see what happens to you once you are no longer under my hospitality. My Slaughterhouse Cleaver and I don't cotton well to people make advancements to my Beloved MuWaHaHaHa.
Would love to know more about Heimdalr from your perspective, as well as Týr ~ one day, if and when you feel inspired by them :)
Ainevethe I'm not sure there's anything he doesn't know when it comes to gods lol
Ainevethe I shall speak about all the Norse gods eventually ^^
Gostei imenso, caro ARITH HARGER Mais uma belíssima apresentação! Grande abraço..
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I quite like the Mystic turn of Odin, for the Greater Community...
But I also prefer Freyja's retention of Seidh, a fountain of Power that Odin draws from...
So...ha ha I'll let my Odin "evolve" in my private pantheon, but my Freyja's going to stay Archaic and Powerful, I guess.
Love your stuff, Arith!
This makes me think of the Maiden,Mother and Crone of other pagan beliefs, I feel as though Frigg may have had more aspects to her personality other than just being the mother and the wise woman and I've always thought of Freyja as more of a deity that women would look to in times of battle but not in a consoling way, more of a leadership way if this makes sense. I believe they are one and the same but these traits of personality made it easy to split them into two. The female role is hypocritically dealt with by Christianity as it's partly lusted after and mostly dominated so they'd only be happy representing a woman as a mother or a whore with no other qualities.
Another great video Arith : )
thank you my dear friend ^^ It was very common to have gods with 2, 3 and even 4 faces, depicting the many aspects of the same deity. Scandinavians just wanted to create a even more complex deity out of an already complex goddess :p Such was her importance that there was the need to split her in two to reach out to other realities.
A lot of historians and archaeologists are throwing a LOT of shade on the Maiden/Mother/Crone idea as a thing in Pre-Christian pantheons, but I think their arguments against "Specifics" (the "Crone" idea has no real role in most Pantheons, no regularity of stories of a Goddess _growing_ between stages, etc.) miss the point that a 🌛Youthful/Vitalizing + 🌝Maternal/Generative + 🌚Masterful/Initiating role exists for _Most_ pantheons' concepts of Earth, Moon, Sky and Light, etc...
(I think the "Maven" [aka "master" or "expert"] is a FAR more accurate replacement for the "Crone" in most Pantheons...🌜Deathly/Desiccating "Crone" is rarely part of a group like Dzewana or Persephone, etc. but stands alone...)
So this "Trinity" _IS_ found Everywhere, but refers to Cosmic Aspects instead of Specific _Goddesses_ so doesn't Eliminate the presence of a "Maiden, Mother, Maven" dynamic in Religion and Myth, it only _ADJUSTS IT..._ right?
Hello! I know is been years since this video! Just wanted to know if the opinion still the same. I’ve been starting my study about it and im very curious. Love your videos! Thank you.
Hi! Could I possible know where you found some of this information? I am studying these things now and would love to read more
Just found this video...apparently I'm 4 years late to this party. 😅
If one reads Snorri's Edda, in its entirety, including the Prologue it is clear that he has a Christian worldview and a Roman-Catholic understanding of World History. He simply grafts the Norse gods in as ancient kings who migrated from Troy to the North. Thus melding Old Icelandic mythic history with Roman Catholic World history in the accepted manner. Snorri faithfully retells the Christian story of creation, explains how men strayed from God and began to worship the earth. Then tells how Odin and his Asia-men migrated from Troy, the Classic city of the Illiad, and became kings in the North. Their entire mythology are tall tales told by a juggler to a local Swedish king to fool him into believing they were gods. That's Snorri's Edda in a nutshell. He retells the myths and cites verses from the Poetic Edda to support his views. But oddly, sometimes the verse he cites contradicts him, or doesn't say what he says it does. Then we must suspect that he was attempting to explain something he didn't fully understand. It's also probable he had written manuscripts of the poems he cites before him, primarily Voluspa, Vafthrudnismal Grimnismal and Lokasenna. So there is no need to assume secret pagan knowledge on his part. He had more poems than we do, but there is no reason to suspect they were any less cryptic than the ones we have; and we have a couple that Snorri does not seem to have known. So we have a descent amount of material to study, we just need to treat it as a primary source and quit trying to make the eddic poems fit Snorri's explanations. His Edda is a secondary source - the first scholarly work on the subject. Coming 230 years after the conversion of Iceland, there is good reason to believe that Snorri did not understand the poems in the same manner as past generations of heathens who composed and sang them.
love your videos! i've charted my family tree. Anything before the 6th century is iffy. That being said, I have used the internet to keep going back. i.e, wikipedia ..etal. Just for fun I charted back to the 3rd and 4th centuries on 2 different branches. The "Saxon" branch ended with Wodin and Frea as my 56th GGP.
Very informative, thank you.
Thank you^^
Thank you, kind sir!
I am a hindu of aryan descent and shakta. That is a mother goddess worshiper . Freyja is non other than shakti the myths are so same. 🥰
thank you for your lectures because they are a must and there's something i would like to add. freya means france as well as lady because the tannes flows through vannenheim. it's wrong to portray odin as a loving and forgiving husband because he wasn't like that at all. in addition to executing jord and planning to sacrificing thor, he abused freya so violently she was forced to beg for divorce. she was banished to thor's birth cave. however, this served her right because she convinced odin to execute jord. although i don't believe in christianity or asatru jesus and mary magdelene and thor and sif should be presented as paragons of family life because they were loving spouses and parents. thank you for your lecture, meytal menkin israel
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Another great video!
Thanks! 😁
thank you!
According to Gaahl, Frigg and Freya are two completely separate beings. Its interesting to see your points on this too, good video
Thank you. On my videos I tend to focus on historical facts and archaeological evidences. Almost 200 years of Scandinavian studies gave us most of the knowledge we have today of the Norse traditional pagan religions. When it comes to spirituality, that's another matter. I tend to separate the spiritual from science and I make that separation clear; sometimes I do videos about a deity showing the historical and archaeological knowledge, and then if I see there is the need to make a separate video about the deity on a spiritual matter, I will do ^^ I've done that with Hel for instance.
That's a good way to do it, i find that a spiritual approach can often confirm or deny some things we thought we know and it is good to have someone of your temper talking about these subjects
No such thing as completely seperate beings
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good one arith. thank yew
Feeling fine. Thanks!
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why the background music ?
I used to think they are the same. However, I now think they are separate Goddesseson account of the Vanir Cult appearing to specifically be Scandinavian as opposed to Continental Germanic like the Aesir.
Thank you my girlfriend after playing God of War asked this because heard of the two, this explains a lot.
Could you sort your playlists so they play in order of publication please?
they are all in order of publication, from newest to oldest.
So much speculation about the origins of religion in this video. Why not go to the sources?
There is no question that Frigg and Freyja are depicted in similar fashion. Both goddesses are said to own a falcon guise. In Skáldskaparmál, Loki borrows Frigg’s falcon form to journey to the giant Geirröd. In the poem Þrymskviða, Loki borrows Freyja’s to fly to the giant Thrym in search of Thor’s stolen hammer. Frigg and Freyja are both depicted weeping-Frigg for the loss of her son Baldur and Freyja for her lost husband Odr. The names of their spouses also form an obvious parallel. Whereas Frigg is Odin’s wife, Freyja is known as Oðs mey (Od’s girl) in Völuspá 25 and a few skaldic passages, understandably causing several scholars to conclude that Freyja was Odin’s wife. In support of this, both Frigg and Freyja seem to share a similar attitude toward Odin. Like Frigga the wife of Othinus in Saxo’s Danish History Book 1, Odin’s wife Frigg in the prose introduction to Grimnismál and Frea, the wife of Godan, in the seventh century account of how the Lombards (Longobardi) got their name, Freyja is set at odds with Odin in the late Fornaldarsaga, Sörla þáttur. There Odin, a human king, objects to his mistress Freyja prostituting herself to four dwarf-smiths in exchange for a necklace and so sends his man Loki to steal it from her. In Saxo’s Danish History, Book 1, Frigg with the aid of some “smiths” strips gold and bracelets from a statue of Odin incurring his wrath. Margaret Clunies Ross suggests that these narratives are “essentially the same.” The name of Wodan’s wife, Frija, in the Second Merseburg Charm and Frigg’s equation with Venus, the Roman goddess of love, in the Anglo-Saxon transliteration of the weekday Friday are frequently offered as evidence for their identity. Noticeably, scholars most often cite non-eddic material in support of this theory. Yet, for all of this, Snorri keeps both goddesses, Frigg and Freyja, and their husbands, Odin and Odr respectively, distinct from one another. The same holds true in eddic poetry, where one goddess is named and the other either directly named or alluded to in Völuspá and Grímnismál, while both appear together in Lokasenna. In Oddrunargratr 9, they are both invoked in the same strophe:
"Svá hjalpi þér
hollar véttir,
Frigg ok Freyja
ok fleiri goð,
sem þú feldir mér
fár af höndum."
“May the kind powers,
Frigg and Freyja
and the other gods,
Help you
as you have saved me
from dangerous distress.”
Certainly the Icelandic poets were able to and did distinguish them from one another. Evidence from other times and regions is simply too sparse to determine if this was the case elsewhere, and the Fornaldarsögur, composed at least a century after Snorri’s Edda, are too late to be of value on this point. In this regard, it is worth noting that, while Frigg was known in England from the names of the weekdays and Freyja is seemingly unattested there, her necklace Brisingamen (Brósinga mene) is named in the poem Beowulf at line 1199, suggesting knowledge of Freyja herself. Tacitus’ distinction between the pan-Germanic goddesses: “Nerthus, that is, Mother Earth”, and Isis, known by her emblem the light warship, suggest the same. Like the Egyptian Isis, known to the Romans, Freyja wanders the world weeping for her lost husband and can be identified with a light warship by association with her brother Freyr, the owner of the ship Skidbladnir, which is large enough to hold all the gods equipped for war, and be folded up like a napkin when not in use. Thus, rather than explaining the parallels between Frigg and Freyja as a shared identity or common origin, it is just as plausible to conclude that their similarities derive from their relationship as mother and daughter. Among Frigg’s many sons, Freyja appears to be her only daughter, making their relationship that much closer.
Damn good video as always, I wish you good food,wine and what whims catch your fancy. No I am off to fight the migraine monster.
so, I come from an extremely esoteric background. I was an atheist until recently, and when I researched Frigg/Freyja, I got a sense of duality. Duality in deities isn't unusual, and if there are Germanic influences on the Norse pantheon ... Cultural mystical exchange between Jews and the Babylonians produced some interesting ideas about dualism. Ahura Mazda and Ahriman, God and the Devil. But another duality that isn't really thought of is the idea of a god like Janus, or Abraxas. I mean, the trinitarian idea of the Christian god isn't really that special from a mythic/spiritual point of view.
Are Frigg and Freyja the same Goddess? I think that's asking the exact wrong question. ;)
In Judaism, the Devil is a part of God. It's not actually a duality.
In myths a couple or siblings can represent aspects of one individual
Odin is Shiva, Freyja is Shakti, the incarnation of Each other
Great video.
I don't really understand how just sleeping with other men/women is being unfaithful....
I mean, if my lover/wife already knows that I've other lovers, how is that "cheating"?
Thanks for this clarification, but I've got another big question about Freya/Frigg that I really want answered: Is she one of the Norse deities that survives Ragnarok? I've heard that she doesn't actually take part in the battle itself, and as a result, she survives, but is this true?
I would love that to be the case; but sadly the only accounts I have heard about Ragnarok are that sons of Thor and some sons of Odin survive (not Baldr) (along with some humans who Odin had little to sleep in a cave safe away from the war). If you find an account of her survival please do let me know i would be delighted to read it :)
@@SpookifulAriel Baldur actually does come back. After being killed by Hod through Loki's trickery, Baldur became trapped in Helheim, but the destruction of the cosmos as a result of Ragnarok allows him to return. Hod also survives, so do Thor's sons Magni and Modi, and Odin's son Vidar. Sol is eaten by one of the children of Fenrir, but her daughter survives to take up her mantle. Njord also survives and apparently returns to Vanaheim. The accounts of Ragnarok don't mention Freya/Frigg dying, but they also don't mention if she survived. However, after reading a lot of various blogs and Q+A's online, nearly all of them state that Freya survives, so I'm inclined to believe that she does. Fenrir and Jormungandr are both killed in Ragnarok, but you know who does survive? The Dragon Nidhoggr. Once Ragnarok has ended, Nidhoggr is actually tasked with feeding on the souls of those who went to Helheim because they were guilty of murder and/or adultery.
@@kevinnorwood8782 oh this makes my heart happy!!!
How about Idunn 😍🤩?
And they are both Odin
How do we know Freya was the most worshipped diety?
Kan det være en forbindelse mellom ordet "frøken" og Freyja?
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The Chad Jackson Crawford vs the Virgin Arith.
No they are like twins.
friggin hell
I am sorry, but I have to disagree with you about the idea that Freya and Frigg are the same godess. Freya is a Vanir, Frigg is not.
Oh really? People are going to a sad playing pick their characters stolen and then demoted.