I think most Asian countries have either made a push to be accepted by Western countries or be unproblematic. China is one of the few that's done neither of these, and so perception of Chinese Americans has and will continue to carry a slight negative connotation. It doesn't help that the most visible aspects of Chinese culture are either exotic or nerdy.
@@biker944 It is easier to immigrate to Taiwan, China than to mainland China. In order to immigrate to mainland China, many people choose to immigrate to Taiwan, China first, and then wait for the reunification of the two sides to officially become Chinese nationals. Chinese culture follows Confucian philosophy at the level of the relationship between people and society, but it follows Taoist philosophy at the level of individual inner spirituality. Danah Zohar: Chinese thinkers had been thinking quantum thoughts thousands of years ago th-cam.com/video/C_ez6Zyq32o/w-d-xo.html
Why does the ASian country have to be accepted by Western standard though? YOu have your own identity. USE IT and BE PROUD! Not everything have to abide to Western culture or standard.
As I always tell people, Kpop and Kdrama got big in the west is because they are allowed to get big in the west. If one day South Korea stops aligning themselves with west then they will be the next 80s Japan or 2020s China, ex: getting media attacks left and right.
Western civilization makes anyone who's not Caucasian feel "less". Other ethnicities & cultures aren't given enough acknowledgement period. In this case, the Chinese culture is awesome 👍 very colorful & diverse imo
From a easterner on the net I found. Everything. When they don’t understand themselves (in the west) how could the west with over 500 years of living amongst their colonies in the east understand the east at all? They know very little because they colonised other nations for their own benefit and had no real policies of integration or educating themselves other than to plunder and destroy the east. Their attitudes towards the east, their relations with the east and their continued refusal to acknowledge their mistakes in the east supports the contention they had no intention of understanding the east then as they have no intention of understanding it now. They would find it easier that the east and easterners behave like them to make up for their ignorance. Orientalism can be defined as how Western societies perceive Eastern societies, typically in an inferior light. This includes the fetishization, obsession, and eroticization of the cultures and people of the East, or what is and was perceived as “the Orient” historically by Westerners. Present in photography, in literature, in film, and in culture, orientalism is in ways the lifeblood that sustains the social relations and politics between people of the so-called “Eastern” and “Western” worlds. Orientalism is the backbone of western society, in that many aspects of it and of its culture were directly appropriated and stolen from the East. The West was built with Eastern tears.
Eastern civilization is just as ethnocentric as Western civilization, if not more so, as they're not as welcoming of foreign people and cultures with how homogeneous their countries are, are they? I mean, it's not like multiculturalism springs to mind when people think of Asia.
To some extent I agree. I do see some second generation Chinese don’t speak mandarin. And interestingly, there is a Chinese TH-camr that moved to South Korea and she had a baby, in several vlogs, it seems that she’s only speaking Korean to the baby. Note that, her majority audience is Chinese I believe
i don't think it's a good idea to stop teaching the second generation immigrant to speak Chinese, cuz it's always better to be able to speak one more language😂
I used to think everyone asian were Chinese too. My Malaysian friend explained to me how Chinese people have spread around the world and someone ethnically Chinese can be Vietnamese, Malaysian, Thai, American, Australian etc . Its like any other nationality and no different really.
For me it’s the complete opposite. I always tell me friends and my peers openly that I’m Chinese. Like whenever I go to work at my job in Dearborn, where most of my coworkers are Arabs, I openly and proudly say that I’m Chinese. In my my lifetime, people around me will have to accept me for who I am, as a Chinese and more specifically as a Chinese American, if they have problems with who I am then it’s their problem. I’m proud of my cultural heritage and who I am, I am proud to be Chinese! If a Japanese, Korean, German, Irish , etc can be proud of who they are then I can be proud of who I am as a Chinese.
I really relate to the point made at 9:30. Growing up, I was exposed to a lot of Chinese culture and people, but also, a lot of American culture as well. I never really fit into the stereotype of the asian kid who's good at the piano or violin, or being naturally gifted at math, I was none of those things. In fact I felt like the opposite, I was good at other subjects like english or science, was more athletic than most kids, had an above average vocabulary (Compared to my asian peers), but I could not do math if my life depended on it. My parents would sign me up for Chinese prep schools and after-schools where I would just feel inferior to everyone else because math was literally all they did there. All the popular Chinese kids were the smart ones that were pretty much all "teacher's pets", and I never fit in with them despite trying. I was instead ridiculed for not being as "intelligent" as them or not being as obedient. Eventually it got to a point where I didn't even want to be associated with them because they did not accept me to begin with. Those of us who found acceptance elsewhere, or from other groups of people feel less proud to Chinese. There's also an unfair amount of social stigmas attached to Chinese natives and as a Chinese-American, I simply don't want to be lumped in the same category as them since I genuinely don't feel a connection to them besides my blood. I'm aware this sounds a bit hateful but that's not my intention, and I'm just being straight up.
Fungbros, you need to show more upside of China in order to change these Chinese American mindset of self hate. Honestly, some of the things you say can be contributing to those self hate. The mainstream media is WAY to lean towards anti China and we need youtubers like you to balance it out. Dont be afraid about your other audience who might not like it. Its too bad for them because we have to show the facts from the other side too. And if they cant accept that then they are not worth your attention.
As a European American, I feel that the Fungbros should show more upside of the Chinese diaspora, especially Chinese American subcultures and Singapore plus Chinese diasporic enclaves in East Asia. Unfortunately because of the current autocratic regime in China, most TH-camrs will be too paranoid to appreciate the beauty of the Han and Tang dynasties, etc.
I don't think David is going to go for that. Every vid I seen he seems to have a hate boner for China, and a weird hyping up of white guys as if it's fair and balanced. Most crazy thing was when he was saying on average white dudes look better as an objective fact in a recent vid to this one. I mean even in this vid he's trying to say colonialism good actually cuz it brought Macau and HK "forward". Idk if he's doing it as character or if he genuinely believes this.
This is just not possible. For the starter China bashing is an entire industry on TH-cam. Hating China is a pastime for many China hating racists. McCarthyism and red scare are still alive and well. MSM and government do negative news about China non-stop. China is openly labelled as an enemy and a threat to the western world. Things will only get worse from here. We will be lucky to avoid a world war 3.
@@dylanblack3279 Nothing to do with what regime china has. It's the US propaganda machine that works and matters. TH-cam has no problem with the US/izreal/Saudi regime who have done more harm to the world.
@@jan1an Friendlier? Umm… genocide and riots targeting Chinese people? The last big Indonesian “kill the Chinese” event happened within the lifetime of people in their early 30s.
@@Alasterius41 Honestly, Chinese in Indonesia and Malaysia, in these regions are much complicated that no one outside Asia will ever fully understand.....
@@darrishng7674 Chinese in Indonesia is also very different from Chinese in Malaysia. Systemic ‘racism’ against the Chinese is ingrained within the policies of Malaysia (even though they call it a ‘Malay-first’ policy) - not so much in Indonesia national policy-wise, but the potential for persecution is much higher for Chinese Indonesians because despite talk of equality in the national constitution, Chinese Indonesians always end up being the scapegoats when things go badly in Indonesia - then that is when the people will actively go after the Chinese: raping, killing, destroying…. In Malaysia, so long as you accept that you’ll be excluded from privileges and benefits that majority of Malaysians receive simply because of your race, you’re pretty much left alone to build your own lives in peace.
if you are Chinese and ashamed of being Chinese, that's all on you. Any person from any race can be cool, admired and loved by people around them. I'm Chinese Canadian and I've never referred myself as asian.
When I was coming up in the 80s and 90s, Chinese (and later Japanese) were the “cool” Asians. I’m Black and Korean so in the Black community, like y’all mentioned, people really seemed to admire the Chinese. One of my friends is Viet with some Chinese ancestry and till this day he still emphasizes his Chinese heavily. Back then, nobody even knew what Vietnam and Korea existed lol.
Probably just because of kung fu and Chinese food.... Cultural export from Hong Kong seems to be pretty good back then. Even in South Korea, HK movies had gained some popularity back in those days. And in America you got Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. And later on you have Jet Li in the 2000s although he's mainland Chinese carrying on that kung fu export legacy. Most ppl back then in the US were probably like "wtf is a Korean" or that the only thing they're thinking of was the Korean War. And South Korea still kind of in its dictatorship phase before the 90s. But they really started upping their cultural export game around the turn of the millennium and it became noticeable in the US/Canada/etc. around the early 2010s.
If you are embarrassed to be a part of one of the oldest, most influential, respected and well known civilizations in the world, that says more about you than the culture itself.
They're not embarassed. They have to pretend not to be chinese or they cannot be a part of NATO countries societies. I have to pretend to be korean at work to avoid blatant racism, exclusion, and bullying. I also have to pretend not to be chinese to have sex. You have no idea.
@@manullim Persians, Arabs, Pakistanis and Russians are all not very popular in the west. Coincidentally their origin countries all have friendly relations with China.
I'm not ashamed but i also aint going on and on about my heritage. I just find that weird, my HR dept once asked me if i wanted to share some of my experience of being an Asian American in the workforce and i was like "uhh i was born here, I've never even been to China." Just cause I'm not ranting about how amazing it is to be Chinese doesn't mean i'm ashamed to be Chinese lol
A lot of negative undertones of China from a western perspective at this time. It's not dissimilar to being a Russian person wherein the government acts in such a way that it's more comfortable to disconnect from your country of origin. Also, westerners tend to prioritize the entertainment equity of a given country more than just about anything, so that doesn't help.
Exactly because lifting 1000's of people out of poverty isn't considered "cool" because its not based on music, celebrity or pop culture. Take pop culture aside being Chinese is something to be incredibly proud of as one of the giants in the world who don't need to bow to the West.
Interesting. My family immigrated to San Francisco in the 1800's and relocated to Los Angeles in 1928. To date, we have 6 generations representing the Quan Tribe. I am deeply rooted in my Chinese pride and culture. We represent across the spectrum in regard to education and profession. As most of my 140+ family members have relocated to other regions of the United States, I am the only one still in Los Angeles. My grandmother was the strength and glue of our family. She raised 13 of her own children and 3 grandchildren. One of my uncles and cousin are Grand Masters in Kung Fu and as children, we were raised in that environment and culture.
How to be proud? I believe it comes from the parents. My parents raised me to be proud of my culture and I did the same with my kids. Both identify as Chinese and are proud of it but are really bi-racial. I think you need to appreciate the culture and teach your kids to appreciate it by embracing it.
I have NEVER been ASHAMED for being CHINESE (born and raise in the West), I still remember my Chinese Peers (ABC) and saying that we were "UNLUCKY" for being born Chinese? WTF, I always told them that we represent the LONGEST CONTINOUS CIVILIZATION in the WORLD, 10,000 years of CHINESE CIVILIZATION until today, PROUD of being Chinese! By the Way, we are the most populous in the World, over 2 Billions all add up, from Singapore to SouthAfrika, there is always a Chinese Chinatown EVERYWHERE, no other Civilization can say that, DO YOU KNOW how many "CHINESE RESTAURANT" exist in the WORLD; EASYYY!!!, more than the Rest Add Up.
This is the most empty version of showing pride for one culture. You didn’t provide anything virtuous or honorable about your culture, you just listed descriptions. Like learn to find things that you would be proud of about your culture that is salient and have some weight. Work on vocabulary to lift up your culture, there wasn’t much you’ve said that would make me think “dang being Chinese is cool, or honorable, or virtuous, or important”.
@@henrytep8884China is not trying be a world policeman, doing regime changes and trying to start WWIII the way the US and its allies are doing. Is trying to maintain world peace virtuous enough for you?
@16:55 actually as a Chinese I am seeing alot of that "Chinese this and Chinese that" even though I dont even bring up the topic but they know Im Chinese. This particularly happens among right wing republicans regardless if they are white or asian. They always bring up the topic of China as if all the problems comes from China. And believe me, I see this at a bar. NO KIDDING!
No surprise. Out of jealousy and panic they can blame anyone. 30 years ago it was Japan and now it's China. By the way, they also blame Mexico, Russia and many other countries.
If someone asks I just say American Born Chinese. I understand why though, the problem in the West is associating the people with Geopolitical issues with the PRC, COVID, etc. The pop culture of China is also far less Westernized vs Japan, South Korea. Japan, SK also has way more freedom of expression vs CHina. So the mass appeal of what they export for entertainment has a broader appeal.
I grew up being super ashamed of being Chinese because I grew up in a super rural white area in the US where being different wasn't cool, and I was made fun of for my Chinese appearance. It didn't help I had nothing to lean on since I was trans-racially adopted. I rejected my heritage until I went back for the first time in high school and that's when my arc started to wanting to learn more, learn the language, culture, etc. So glad now I'm at a place where I can feel okay with being Chinese American
@@rickyayyI heard that in the past, white adoptive parents were advised to raise your kid colorblind. You know the thinking …I don’t see color. I see a person. You’re American, we’re family. We love you. That’s it. It’s like If you point out how someone is different, they’ll feel self conscious. So don’t do it. Today, the thinking when it comes to transnational adoption is totally different. They realized it was harmful to ignore the child’s heritage. I can see how sometimes you just want a child. And you just raise them American. Now adoptive parents have the added responsibility to learn, teach and embrace Asian culture or Black or Hispanic heritage cultures to support the child and develop a healthy sense if identity.
Well it’s not surprising that a lot of Chinese Americans are ashamed to be Chinese when 1) China is portrayed extremely negatively in mainstream media & 2) other Asian countries are seen as “cooler” and “trendier” than China. It also doesn’t help that many other Asians are openly Sinophobic and take offense when they’re mistaken as Chinese (whereas they would be flattered if they were mistaken as Korean tbh).
Yeah, china is portrayed really negative in the Western MSM due to geopolitical factors. But outside of the West, you will find out that the US has a much worse reputation.
This is a big one. Also if you are Chinese-American you are expected to be totally loyal to the US even if people treat you like shit. The gaslighting always comes about how rich Chinese/Asian people are, even when the person telling you this shit owns their home, and you're renting.
My experience with being confronted with and being associated with Communist China depends on cultural isolation and if one is in a hostile ethnocentric community. Last time it occurred to me was in the fall 2022 at Washington DC Metrorail station in Maryland while waiting for a bus - an old fat and short white man yelled at me to go back to China for about five to ten minutes. Another younger white guy interceded to protect the elderly racist who was yelling at the top of his lungs. Racism isn't a rational or reasonable behavior so asking him to stop would be a waste of time. However, the screaming racist did not pose a physical threat and knocking out the racist to make him shut up could be seen as an overreaction on my part.
Historic anti-Chinese racism in the US, coupled with the revival of McCarthyism and US domestic/global funding of media to bash China has succeeded in its intention to spread self-hate among Chinese in the west
I think China's ticket to coolness is in their traditional instruments (for example guqin, erhu, guzheng). I think they sound way cooler than traditional western instruments like trombones (which I literally played in middle school as a white person) or violins
It’s actually going to be athletics. Boxing, basketball, mma. Musical instruments aren’t relatable to the rest of the world and we can find excellent examples of Chinese athletes in each sport. Sports is the way for Chinese to build incredible influence.
@@migukin7492Lol, Korea was a thing 5000 years ago? The only thing that I recall is that both Korea and Japan copied a lot of Chinese culture and traditions, writing, food, heck even their traditional clothing, the Hanbok and Kimono are heavily inspired by different Hanfu styles throughout the dynasties
There are a lot of misconceptions about chinese outside china bc until recently most overseas chinese are from guangdong, fujian, region. China is very diverse, the general divide is north vs south, north west is also different from north east, for example all the negative stereotypes about chinese, these stereotpes are way less prevalent in the north, ie: they are taller, heavier built, asian flush is rare in the north, food is more red meat etc. Of course this is the in your face examples, and may seem kind of discriminatory against south chinese, but the point is if the world had a more of a understandings of chinese from all parts of china then there would be less negative stereotypes and may seem cooler. If you look are for example fighting sports heavy weight boxing zhangzhi lei (one of the best in the world) and ufc champion zhang weili, and top 10 mens bantamweight song yadong, the first chinese fighter in ufc zhang tiequan, lijinliang (almost made top 10 welter weight), all of them are from the north. It is no accident. There are other reasons such as the politics etc. But for the common people is it what you see from your everyday lives. Of course understanding the history and culture of china also helps, china has a very deep and diverse culture its hard to have very characteristic traditions or a few defining traditions like the Korean or Japanese. One would have to really spend time to fully understand chinese history and culture.
Just to piggyback off the Nissan Analogy, Nissan wasn't always number 3. There is the skyline /GTR, that's a whole history of racing and cultural icons there from initial D to fast and furious etc. I think that's just it, we just gotta stop avoiding talking about China and Chinese culture. Have those conversations, don't be afraid of giving our side of the narrative. Learn our culture, embrace our culture and go out there and represent.
How come your map didn't show the Philippines as being part of the Indosphere? The Philippines is also part of the Indosphere, and the Sanskrit words in the Tagalog language, that you all mentioned in a past video, confirms that. Baybayin, Laguna Copperplate Inscription, and the ancient Hindu artifacts at the Ayala museum in Manila confirms that the Philippines is part of the Indosphere, and DNA studies even show that Filipino people have South Asian ancestry/DNA in them, including me. Also, the Japanese language is a language isolate, it is not part of the Altaic language family, or even Korean.
As a Hmong person, saying “Asian” is easier to explain to non-Asians who aren’t familiar with culture ethnicities. We’re the most unknown Asians of Asians without a country tied to our name lol (Even though people think we’re from Mongolia 😑)
@@maisondav1d Yea, we’re more known now than back then but it’s still up in the air with most people lol We’re basically undocumented Vietnam war refugees that aided the U.S and fled from communism after the fall. You likely won’t find it in history books though, at least the ones I read in grade school.
China doesn't have the soft power that Japan (animes, mangas, and their cars and electronics - though that's more of the past reputation) and S. Korea (Westernized pop and drama and samsung, just in korean) has. Part of it, China can blame itself because they seem really clueless on soft culture export - hanfu, historical dramas, ancient instruments. These are the things readily available, but they don't know how to scale it into a cultural product. The HK'ers did extremely well during the 70s - 90s with Chinese cultural exports. The mainlanders are like a jigsaw puzzle. Part of it is also the anti-China bashing by the western government and medias. They have potential in exporting brands for smartphones, smartwatches, electronics, and most recently ev cars, but all these brands are being sanctioned or blocked. LOL
Unfortunately the last part is mostly because they have copied western brands because they used to work for those companies. Then some western companies sued the look a like brands plus many companies are forced to report to CCP
I am Chinese. I don 't think I am shame of being Chinese. I just think we don 't need to be defensive like other Asian groups. I don 't think we are threaten as a group. Suppose we are talking about Koreans. They are a much smaller group, and much more spread out. They have smaller safety net than Chinese people. All in all, Korean is very much in danger of losing to be Korean one generation or two. The same is not true for Chinese.
China is the largest country in Asia and an adversary of america, thus gets a lot of attention. Some of which is quite negative that leads to stereotypes.
I was only in mainland China for six months in 2018. The infighting may have eluded me, especially as I was not fluent in Mandarin beyond possibly HSK1.
Would be nice if people can be honest and just say they want their ethnic group to win rather than give us long winded speeches about why they are on the side of “good” and how they are fighting evil.
Most kids that grow up and find themselves not being able to conform to their peer groups will feel some sense of shame with their identity simply because they have the desire to fit in. It's not even necessarily that they may hate their ethnicity because they're likely too young to understand the implications of that, but it's that they aren't the same cookie-cutter mold as the "cool kids." Fortunately, this tends to be a phase and most will wise up by the time they reach adulthood unless they go down the dark path of self-loathing.
I also grew up in a country that demonized and scapegoated Chinese people as the norm, so I empathize deeply with that comment. A good example is that one political party in my country went as far as to present a list of names in our largest city which by their own admission simply "sounded Chinese" in an attempt to gain favor by claiming massive 'foreign ownership' (specifically Chinese ownership) was responsible for housing scarcity etc. The list included many citizens and legal residents as well as owners who were actually offshore, it was literally just a list of people who owned property in the city who sounded Chinese. All my life I've been encouraged to feel ashamed of my heritage here. Now that I'm older I feel like I've missed out on so much from trying to hide from it. I'll always regret turning down an invitation to join Lion Dance as a kid because I thought it would lead to me getting bullied more.
My religion was Indosphere, and my blood is Chinosphere, being 25% Chinese and 75% Khmer plus Buddhist, thanks to Chuan Daiguan entry 1296 ( name probably spell wrong) But if you are truly interested, do your own research, which is very empowering.
One of the quickest, and ACCURATE representation of Chinese is Chinese martial arts (it contains much of the history, the practices, the philosophies of China)… there is no need to say anything, just KNOW about Chinese martial arts (you just need to know the spirit)…….. You can go as shallow or deep as you want when discussing Chinese martial arts.. Start with the MARTIAL ART as well as THE PHILOSOPHY of Bruce Lee
Yes, not having a culturally cool Chinese identity is a BIG BIG part. Many still associate Chinese with old people (because Confucianism stressed respect of elders). Many outsiders mistaken RESPECT FOR ELDERS with other things.
I remember meeting a chick who was Chinese yet insisted on being referred to as Japanese. It turns out she was born in Japan to Chinese parents. I'm a big believer in jus soli so I'll agree that she's Japanese as she was born there. I did point out to her that she shouldn't distance herself from her Chinese heritage. If anything, she can embrace both her Chinese ethnicity and Japanese nationality. However, she didnt see it that way and continues to identify herself as Japanese. Its pretty sad to see someone who was as so passionate about disavowing their ethnicity.
I’m not Chinese/Chinese American. I’m Japanese American. I’ve never been ashamed of being who I am. Also, I’m a 4th generation. What I get, even as I am older, is that other Japanese do not perceive me as being Japanese or even Asian enough. My family has a few traditions, but I don’t speak it, nor do I dress like my counterparts here or in Japan. When I went to Japan, I stuck out like a sore thumb. Being taller and larger than the average person. I got some looks like “we can tell you are ethnically Japanese, but you aren’t.” I might as well been deaf mute because I could not communicate. Even in some shops here in LA, I get the odd look from the elders.
For me, living in the U.S. for over thirty years and met pretty much all kinds of Asians, I feel it all comes down to the individual rather than their ethnicity/race/nationality. As long as the person is respectful and kind and peaceful...I couldn't care less who they are and where they are from. As you all know, there are good and bad Asians everywhere you go.
A lot of Chinese (from China) don't care and would rather use English names because it sounds cool and different and uses it as a form of escapism from mundane Chinese life. And as for Hong Kong, they used to be English colony and more often adopt English names than most other places in East Asia. For Chinese Americans, I'm not too sure what the reason is. I think Chinese names are a bit more complicated to pronounce for English speakers. I know Cantonese and Mandarin are different, but both of those languages have some pretty weird Romanized spellings of names for English speakers where this is literally the opposite case for Japanese where almost every single name would be easy to pronounce for English speakers. Korean names pronunciations tend to be more complicated than Japanese, but overall isn't as difficult as Chinese, either. Chinese food is interesting AF. But as someone who's been around Cantonese food for too long due to overwhelming majority of Cantonese/Fujian population in where I live, even as someone who isn't Cantonese, my impression of it is that it's one of the more boring cuisines even though it isn't supposed to be that way for someone who literally isn't Cantonese. This is the same with people. Because too much exposure to a group of people tend to lead to them being perceived as less interesting/fascinating.
Shieettt some Vietnamese take pride in having part Chinese in their bloodline…. My Cambodian friends that’s part Chinese are pretty successful in school and business
Growing up Vietnamese, if u had high Chinese bloodline, you were considered more beautiful and in the upper echelon. I am a tall guy and my mom said it's because of the Chinese side of the family .But to think about the topic, Vietnamese stuck together more than the Chinese kids back then .
Nah, if you have small eyes (mắt hí) they will say you have Chinese blood or something and if your skin is darker than Vietnamese they will associate you with khmer or some other minority group. Kinh (my people) majority are very racist and discriminatingly against most ethnic minorities including Hoa (Chinese-Vietnamese)
@@icedragon7396Mostly because of political correctness, mainland Vietnamese admires Chinese a lot and a lot of Vietnamese girls want to marry Chinese men.
Chinese culture being cool is coming real soon, a lot of Chinese with money will brute force it. Chinese will be thee group the world will market to, and that will change the perception little by little.
Not happening…. A few days ago I just got my queue cut by a young mainland Chinese man. Gives me the bad impression about Chinese in general. They just don’t follow normal social norms as it’s not their norm to queue up properly so they exhibit those “normal behaviours” they do in China in other countries and show us their culture. 😂
The major factor is whether a Chinese knows Chinese history, it is natural to become proud and also aware of the issue of the culture if one knows the Chinese history. One doesn’t have to be an expert, they just need to have a cohesive SENSE of Chinese history to be proud of the Chinese identity. Without having a cohesive, cultural identity, Chinese will just be a second class citizen.
They don't kowtow to the USA. They would prefer liberal democracy over autocracy. If India was as powerful as China or the USA, they would build stronger ties with India.
I consult the business development in Greater China regions. That's one of the few places where looking Chinese is advantageous; people automatically assume you are an expert.
As a descendant of a PPl who had Their Culture,languages,& history beaten out of Us,I find it very ignorant,& shocking that ppl would deny Their heritage. Yeah,Us Black ppl grew up admiring Kung Fu/Martial Arts. Very interesting video!!!✌️
The ONLY WAY to PROUD AND HAPPY TO BE WHATEVER YOUE OWN RACE is STOP WATCHING ALL ANGLO MOVIES AND MEDIA… the ONLY WAY TO FEEL PROUD AS AN CHINESE PERSON IS… WATCH LOADS OF MOVIES CHINESE ACTIONS & ROMANCE FILMS…
I think in smaller countries, it is natural to have strong nationalism and a cohesive ethnicity. Everyone feels like one big family. Because China is so big and diverse, the nationalism is much weaker. Han Chinese have different culture and language depending on the region. It is more like an empire. It is harder to care strongly about the whole country when each region is different
I think it's the perception of the world has on China. Either China as the cultural bully on the other Asian nations or as rising economic competitors and China's disregard indifference for other cultures or economic practices.
Meh. I think those who are saying that people treat them worse when they find out that they're Chinese might be blowing things out of proportion or imagining things. I can see it happening a couple of times sure. But to report it as if though it's a common occurrence makes me question just how true that is. I'm 51 and lived here in the states almost my entire life. I haven't noticed a significant change from how people treat me as an asian dude versus being Chinese. The ONLY difference is if they think I'm one of their own and try to speak to me in their language. That's it.
May I suggest a shift in perception? Instead of looking for validation and acceptance from the outside, redefine what the label "Chinese" means. That is, for the outside world , that is a box with certain characteristics. Not real characteristics, but made up ones. And that box with that label is considered uncool or whatever adjectives we may attribute to it. Since it's all made up, we don't have to subscribe to that box as defined by whatever outside forces say it is. Look inside, show up authentically. People gravitate towards authenticity. Shame only attract disdain. Redefine from internal strength, not external view.
Man, whats with all the Nissan hate? Have y'all never heard of the RX-7, the Z, the GT-R (aka Skyline?!?!)? If anything dunk on Mazdas. 😂 Side note - In Mandarin there is separation of zhongguoren (Chinese Citizen) vs huaren (Han ethnic diaspora). Sort of hard to explain to non-Mandarin speaking people, but it might be a way to be proud of the culture whilst distancing oneself from the CCP.
As the older I get I just naturally drawn to the western ways. I lived in a western environment longer than in China. It’s not that I am ashame if being Chinese. It’s just that I am tired I have to do this and that “just because I am Chinese” and don’t act like a “ghost” that is what I am not cool with.
Yeah… idk if I’m imagining it, but it seems like nobody asks me questions about being Chinese, and I do wonder if it’s because we aren’t ready to talk abt the antagonistic geopolitics. I still tell everyone I’m Chinese, cuz I want to know what people personally think abt my country.
Or there is nothing to be proud of lol when they taunt your non Asian friends and assume they are poor and they tell the whole school your parents diss their class lolol and your Chinese parents aren’t even high class
Not truly “ashamed”. I understand the real reason the US is hating on China is because China is kicking too much butt and developing too fast, so they want to maintain worldwide dominance. I just want to obtain benefits and not suffer the backlash from the racist elements of Western society. So on the surface if I downplay, it’s all an act. I am proud of what China has accomplished. F all the China haters.
The current China isn't the real or good representation of Chinese (Taiwan is on another topic).. it's a evil cult at the very top level of the government. As a Hokkien abc myself, I don't down play on being Chinese, but I definitely exclude myself apart from China and its government
I don't think any American's care about China prospering, it's more of the rhetoric that they have been pushing lately. A lot of it is due to Xi Xinping and his push for more authoritarianism and threats against America. I've been following Chinese news for a long time and it got a lot worst when Xi got in power.
@@blockraven22and what might that be? He came to power under anti corruption campaign and has reduced corruption by a lot, as well as a lot more regulation. He has also taken China to the global stage in terms of soft power (China has a lot of soft power outside of the western influence, Brics, Africa, etc). Under his reign, a lot more has been invested into Chinese local companies to the point where there's now several Chinese companies that can trade blow to blow on the world stage like BYD, etc. I'm not saying that everything he does is correct and that he can't control everything, but how is that a negative?
I think it’s more to do with racism whilst growing up. Most people would have experienced this whilst growing up. When you are young you may not feel proud. From my experience of myself and other Chinese people I know, the older and wiser you become the prouder we are
I am a proud asian I wouldn't change anything about. Asain has the best culture. If we all come together as one we would be the most powerful countries.
there are alot historically varities of Chinese people overseas, it's roughly 70 years since China was established in 1949, but ethnically Chinese people have existed in north america since qing dynasty, it's not accurate to identify ethnically Chinese people from outside of mainland and arrived on north america before 1949 as Chinese which usually refers to people from China.
Maybe I'm way out of touch. But why do I need to be "proud" of being from Chinese ancestry? Maybe it's my jaded age. 45 yrs old. But at this point I'm perfectly fine being American. And happen to have Chinese ancestry. Maybe it's because I don't really interact with my relatives much. And I have 0 Chinese friends.
it's because of the fear of being associated with the CCP like you two mentioned. But even then, the government shouldn't make you feel any less proud of your cultural identity. Why? Easy, because you and it's citizens aren't the government. At the end of the day, even if you support them or not, any political backlash of the CCP doesn't diminish your culture or race. You don't have to justify or explain why the CCP did this or that. Be proud of your race and culture no matter what. edit: these points i made were already mentioned in the video. I didn't watch the whole video at the time of typing that.
The household income inequality gap is wider in the Chinese descent American population than most other Asian American subethnic groups which led to different socio economic priorities and realities. Most non Chinese Asian American subethnic groups have come to America in the last 50 years and have been more uniformly influenced by immigration socio engineering policies that restrict the socio economic background and resources. The Chinese language and culture has had less impact on 3rd and 4th gen Chinese American. Money from Japan and South Korea into American economy has made them more popular. The concern with Chinese money is to the worry that it would be connected to the PRC PLA so big money from China goes through stricter scrutiny. Japan and South Korea entertainment exported to the USA is somewhat akin to how the Hong Kong culture exports to the USA in the 1970-1990s until the PRC took over Hong Kong. After the CCP took over HK - Communist Chinese Party Censorship on Hong Kong has handcuffed Hong Kong Culture and people started being concern that Hong Kong was subject to the whims of the Chinese Communist Party.
I am a South Korean. Koreans have influenced by Han Tang Song Ming. Still we consider those four are only true great China. Japan influenced by Baekje Korean dynasty(Originally from China but localized) and Tang. After Tang fall Japan techically closed up their country. You can easily find Tang influence in Japan. In Korea you can easily find Ming influence Han Tang Song stuffs are replaced. I hope Chinese have some more pride. We see low self-esteem of Chinese clearly through history trolls in the internet (and in real life as well). In macro viewpoint, China shouldn't name lunar calendar new year as "chinese new year". Jan 1st is not Italian's new year. This also displays low self-esteem. China should learn how would they behave from Italians.
"Chinse New Year" is not a term they use in China. It's usually call "春節" (Spring Festival) or "農曆新年" (Lunar New Year). "Chinese New Year" is a term coined in the western world.
This is just my personal experience so take it with a grain with a salt, as a half Chinese person, I never really cared for Chinese culture or Asian culture in general. I don't listen to that feminine pop crap or EDM. I never really cared for anime and I certainly couldn't care less about K pop. I grew up whitewashed. I play guitar and love hard rock and heavy metal. My music of choice is Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Guns N Roses, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, AC/DC, Van Halen etc. I do enjoy Chinese food and loved Bruce Less films growing up but other than that, I'm as a white washed as they come. Most of my friends were either white or Hispanic and I only dated white and Hispanic girls my entire life. Maybe it was the fact that I grew up in a non-Asian area but growing up, I was very unculturally Asian and still am to this day. I find modern Asian American culture off putting. It's mostly going to boba shops, listening to KPop, watching Anime or going to raves. None of which I enjoy.
You both are so true!! I didn't know about other Asians until I gotten older so yes I thought all Asians where Chinese!! I'm sad about it because I am so happy now to learn about all Asian cultures now specially in the Philippines!! I love all Asian people specially Southeast Asians!!
That's not true that all asians have some chinese blood in their dna. Those ancestry tests are not even accurate especially for asians. They either tell you you're 100% of your ethnic origin or provide a list of multiple ethnic nationalities so it's not a reliable approach especially if you're asian. It works for all other races however. For a chinese they also show a small percentage of Japanese and small percentage of korean likewise. So it's no different from people from Europe or Africa sharing similarities within their neighboring countries.
Even people inside China call themselves by their province e.g. Shanghainese, Beijing, Macau, HKer! Some of it is elitism. I've met some nice Chinese people over the years but generally people will focus on the negative things related to China and feel ashamed of the culture. Can't blame people having negative perceptions of Chinese cause some of the things they do is embarrassing e.g. being loud and obnoxious in public, spitting in public, not lining up for public transport, jumping lines, by stander effect, being rude. But not everyone is like that but even if you had 30% of people in a 1.3billion population doing those things it's not a good look. There's also geopolitics, CCP bullies it's neighbours, of course you're not going to have a positive view on them. Also cause of the brain washing you have a lot of tankies and pinkies being wolf warriors online and also in public. If more Chinese people behaved like Taiwanese or Japanese and showed respect to people, I'm sure they would be better perceived.
The United States is still a country where racial discrimination exists, at least when it comes to Chinese people. America spends 500 million tax dollars a year spreading negative news about China. They make up fake news, they pay foreign news channels to demonize china and their own people don't know what is true and what is propaganda. （Imagine the Chinese spend $500,000,000 on building infrastructure, fixing the infrastructure, helping homeless people, and providing medical care to the average person.） Don't try to see the truth about China from the mainstream media in the United States and Europe. They don't even dare not broadcast the entire process of the opening ceremony of the "Beijing Winter Olympics China 2020", the opening ceremony of the "31st World University Games Chengdu 2023", and "19th Asian Games Hangzhou 2022" to the Western world. They are all constantly in a state of shame and sensitive inferiority, trying to blindfold you to cover up the facts and not let people in the Western world know the truth about China. "Freedom of speech"? It's just a lie to yourself and others. What people from other countries really think about China th-cam.com/video/4gVyLn_4Qk0/w-d-xo.html Is CHINA's Economy Really Collapsing? th-cam.com/video/98PAwVS2axM/w-d-xo.html The Media Won't Tell You THIS About China th-cam.com/video/ZqvfxLumuIU/w-d-xo.html The West: China Is Collapsing!! th-cam.com/video/Ifv9z-Nku38/w-d-xo.html We are deliberately targeting China th-cam.com/video/WJLFrfMz7dk/w-d-xo.html I Travel to the Most Remote Village in China th-cam.com/video/HZ5kSqrcrGM/w-d-xo.html Brainwashing a Nation! th-cam.com/video/GqqgUFE86yA/w-d-xo.html How does Trump think of Huawei and China th-cam.com/video/dyN68y6mIog/w-d-xo.html Kishore Mahbubani th-cam.com/video/joLld6nO6LE/w-d-xo.html
to answer your question of what one thing that chinese culture has that is super ccol, the answer is undoubtedly the chinese language and hanzi characters, but most american chinese arent well learned in chinese literacy that's why it is hard for them to feel proud
Tell people you’re from Middle Kingdom our rightful name not accepting China or Chinese when non Chinese say it it’s almost like an insult or mockery to us. Our rightful name is Middle Kingdom nobody in China calls themselves Chinese. Chinese is a made up word that came from the Portuguese how we gona just accept a word they made up to basically mock us. Rightful title is Middle Kingdom. People from Middle Kingdom I would love to see trump try to say China to mock us while the crowd laughs with him when he says “China” in a funny way literally trying to mock and belittle us the rightful name is middle kingdom 中国 we are center of the world. Fucking United Kingdom name themselves United Kingdom when their original name is Albion. Fcking these albinos call themselves Great Britain after and than United Kingdom as if they some royalties with rich history when Chinese history is richer and older than them and we let the fucking Portuguese change our name from Middle Kingdom to fucking Chinese something that sounds ridiculous and funny. Every Chinese should take offense to being called Chinese like the N word cause we don’t call ourselves that in our Chinese language it’s Middle Kingdom and rest of the world needs to acknowledge. When trump says “Middle Kingdom” instead of “China” I would like to see who laughs and giggle. The word Middle Kingdom has power behind it and history and is seen as royalty not some made up Portuguese word China that literally sounds like a taunt or mockery
A lot of the Chinese that arrived durong the gold rush, were southern canto Chinese. Descendants of those Chinese immigrants speak little or no Chinese now and would probably not know how to read Chinese characters
12:30 the Altaic language family is not widely considered to be a true language family. There is simply not enough evidence to support the theory of its existence.
Honestly, as a Malaysian Chinese, I am never afraid to tell people my ancestors come from China. After all, my ancestors come from a land whose descendants build the city state of Singapore and within 30 years build up a nation to the point that challenges US supremacy globally. I am proud that my blood comes from a nation that are able to builds structures that amazes other cultures and peoples from the ancient times to today. Why? Because I am immune to American media bullshit and propaganda about China. If American Chinese are ashamed of their ancestry and their ties to China, I suggest you people in the West consume less American bullshit about the rest of the world and visit China and see it with your own eyes like I did.
No… in Singapore, Singaporeans accept that not only Chinese, but Malays, Indians and people of many other ethnic groups help build our nation. We Singaporeans pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, language or religion. So please don’t speak for us, you’re not one of us.
What do you mean by uncool? That’s so subjective. I don’t see how parents can push Chinese cultures in an uncool way? I feel that they’re cool just you growing up in the USA with many anti Chinese sentiments feeling Chinese culture as uncool. So that’s so subjective and cannot be used as argument.
I think most Asian countries have either made a push to be accepted by Western countries or be unproblematic. China is one of the few that's done neither of these, and so perception of Chinese Americans has and will continue to carry a slight negative connotation. It doesn't help that the most visible aspects of Chinese culture are either exotic or nerdy.
Chinese culture is hard to understand I am half taiwanese. I consider taiwan trade vs immigration. I think Chinese culture is cool
@@biker944 It is easier to immigrate to Taiwan, China than to mainland China. In order to immigrate to mainland China, many people choose to immigrate to Taiwan, China first, and then wait for the reunification of the two sides to officially become Chinese nationals.
Chinese culture follows Confucian philosophy at the level of the relationship between people and society, but it follows Taoist philosophy at the level of individual inner spirituality.
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most Asian countries are vassal states except China. :P
Why does the ASian country have to be accepted by Western standard though? YOu have your own identity. USE IT and BE PROUD! Not everything have to abide to Western culture or standard.
As I always tell people, Kpop and Kdrama got big in the west is because they are allowed to get big in the west. If one day South Korea stops aligning themselves with west then they will be the next 80s Japan or 2020s China, ex: getting media attacks left and right.
Western civilization makes anyone who's not Caucasian feel "less". Other ethnicities & cultures aren't given enough acknowledgement period. In this case, the Chinese culture is awesome 👍 very colorful & diverse imo
From a easterner on the net I found.
Everything. When they don’t understand themselves (in the west) how could the west with over 500 years of living amongst their colonies in the east understand the east at all?
They know very little because they colonised other nations for their own benefit and had no real policies of integration or educating themselves other than to plunder and destroy the east.
Their attitudes towards the east, their relations with the east and their continued refusal to acknowledge their mistakes in the east supports the contention they had no intention of understanding the east then as they have no intention of understanding it now.
They would find it easier that the east and easterners behave like them to make up for their ignorance.
Orientalism can be defined as how Western societies perceive Eastern societies, typically in an inferior light. This includes the fetishization, obsession, and eroticization of the cultures and people of the East, or what is and was perceived as “the Orient” historically by Westerners. Present in photography, in literature, in film, and in culture, orientalism is in ways the lifeblood that sustains the social relations and politics between people of the so-called “Eastern” and “Western” worlds. Orientalism is the backbone of western society, in that many aspects of it and of its culture were directly appropriated and stolen from the East. The West was built with Eastern tears.
And if I, as a white person, live in China, will I be treated the same as a Han Chinese? Will I be able to join the Chinese Communist Party?
Eastern civilization is just as ethnocentric as Western civilization, if not more so, as they're not as welcoming of foreign people and cultures with how homogeneous their countries are, are they? I mean, it's not like multiculturalism springs to mind when people think of Asia.
Dumbest comment here.
Chinese brainwashed by CCP would say some non sense as always. Isnt youtue banned in China?
To some extent I agree. I do see some second generation Chinese don’t speak mandarin. And interestingly, there is a Chinese TH-camr that moved to South Korea and she had a baby, in several vlogs, it seems that she’s only speaking Korean to the baby. Note that, her majority audience is Chinese I believe
i don't think it's a good idea to stop teaching the second generation immigrant to speak Chinese, cuz it's always better to be able to speak one more language😂
I used to think everyone asian were Chinese too. My Malaysian friend explained to me how Chinese people have spread around the world and someone ethnically Chinese can be Vietnamese, Malaysian, Thai, American, Australian etc . Its like any other nationality and no different really.
Ignorance sure is bliss
Knowledge is bliss in my way of thinking.
For me it’s the complete opposite. I always tell me friends and my peers openly that I’m Chinese. Like whenever I go to work at my job in Dearborn, where most of my coworkers are Arabs, I openly and proudly say that I’m Chinese. In my my lifetime, people around me will have to accept me for who I am, as a Chinese and more specifically as a Chinese American, if they have problems with who I am then it’s their problem. I’m proud of my cultural heritage and who I am, I am proud to be Chinese!
If a Japanese, Korean, German, Irish , etc can be proud of who they are then I can be proud of who I am as a Chinese.
I really relate to the point made at 9:30. Growing up, I was exposed to a lot of Chinese culture and people, but also, a lot of American culture as well. I never really fit into the stereotype of the asian kid who's good at the piano or violin, or being naturally gifted at math, I was none of those things. In fact I felt like the opposite, I was good at other subjects like english or science, was more athletic than most kids, had an above average vocabulary (Compared to my asian peers), but I could not do math if my life depended on it.
My parents would sign me up for Chinese prep schools and after-schools where I would just feel inferior to everyone else because math was literally all they did there. All the popular Chinese kids were the smart ones that were pretty much all "teacher's pets", and I never fit in with them despite trying. I was instead ridiculed for not being as "intelligent" as them or not being as obedient. Eventually it got to a point where I didn't even want to be associated with them because they did not accept me to begin with. Those of us who found acceptance elsewhere, or from other groups of people feel less proud to Chinese.
There's also an unfair amount of social stigmas attached to Chinese natives and as a Chinese-American, I simply don't want to be lumped in the same category as them since I genuinely don't feel a connection to them besides my blood. I'm aware this sounds a bit hateful but that's not my intention, and I'm just being straight up.
Fungbros, you need to show more upside of China in order to change these Chinese American mindset of self hate. Honestly, some of the things you say can be contributing to those self hate. The mainstream media is WAY to lean towards anti China and we need youtubers like you to balance it out. Dont be afraid about your other audience who might not like it. Its too bad for them because we have to show the facts from the other side too. And if they cant accept that then they are not worth your attention.
As a European American, I feel that the Fungbros should show more upside of the Chinese diaspora, especially Chinese American subcultures and Singapore plus Chinese diasporic enclaves in East Asia. Unfortunately because of the current autocratic regime in China, most TH-camrs will be too paranoid to appreciate the beauty of the Han and Tang dynasties, etc.
I don't think David is going to go for that. Every vid I seen he seems to have a hate boner for China, and a weird hyping up of white guys as if it's fair and balanced. Most crazy thing was when he was saying on average white dudes look better as an objective fact in a recent vid to this one. I mean even in this vid he's trying to say colonialism good actually cuz it brought Macau and HK "forward". Idk if he's doing it as character or if he genuinely believes this.
This is just not possible. For the starter China bashing is an entire industry on TH-cam. Hating China is a pastime for many China hating racists.
McCarthyism and red scare are still alive and well. MSM and government do negative news about China non-stop. China is openly labelled as an enemy and a threat to the western world.
Things will only get worse from here. We will be lucky to avoid a world war 3.
@@dylanblack3279 Nothing to do with what regime china has. It's the US propaganda machine that works and matters. TH-cam has no problem with the US/izreal/Saudi regime who have done more harm to the world.
@@dylanblack3279lol. The "autocratic regime" of China serves their people far better than all of your governments in the EU, including the EU itself.😂
I never ashamed being Chinese Indonesian. With all happened in this world, I more proud to be who I am.
I'd like to see if someone say to you "woy Cinaa" in indonesia. if you angry that mean you ashamed being Chinese hahaha
It probably also helps that Indonesians are generally friendlier to China compared to people in some other Southeast Asian countries.
@@jan1an Friendlier? Umm… genocide and riots targeting Chinese people? The last big Indonesian “kill the Chinese” event happened within the lifetime of people in their early 30s.
@@Alasterius41 Honestly, Chinese in Indonesia and Malaysia, in these regions are much complicated that no one outside Asia will ever fully understand.....
@@darrishng7674 Chinese in Indonesia is also very different from Chinese in Malaysia. Systemic ‘racism’ against the Chinese is ingrained within the policies of Malaysia (even though they call it a ‘Malay-first’ policy) - not so much in Indonesia national policy-wise, but the potential for persecution is much higher for Chinese Indonesians because despite talk of equality in the national constitution, Chinese Indonesians always end up being the scapegoats when things go badly in Indonesia - then that is when the people will actively go after the Chinese: raping, killing, destroying…. In Malaysia, so long as you accept that you’ll be excluded from privileges and benefits that majority of Malaysians receive simply because of your race, you’re pretty much left alone to build your own lives in peace.
if you are Chinese and ashamed of being Chinese, that's all on you. Any person from any race can be cool, admired and loved by people around them. I'm Chinese Canadian and I've never referred myself as asian.
Are you in Ontario? Lets link up
When I was coming up in the 80s and 90s, Chinese (and later Japanese) were the “cool” Asians. I’m Black and Korean so in the Black community, like y’all mentioned, people really seemed to admire the Chinese. One of my friends is Viet with some Chinese ancestry and till this day he still emphasizes his Chinese heavily. Back then, nobody even knew what Vietnam and Korea existed lol.
That's true when China opened up the country Koreans expected much from them. But only disappointment left.
Probably just because of kung fu and Chinese food....
Cultural export from Hong Kong seems to be pretty good back then. Even in South Korea, HK movies had gained some popularity back in those days. And in America you got Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. And later on you have Jet Li in the 2000s although he's mainland Chinese carrying on that kung fu export legacy.
Most ppl back then in the US were probably like "wtf is a Korean" or that the only thing they're thinking of was the Korean War. And South Korea still kind of in its dictatorship phase before the 90s. But they really started upping their cultural export game around the turn of the millennium and it became noticeable in the US/Canada/etc. around the early 2010s.
If you are embarrassed to be a part of one of the oldest, most influential, respected and well known civilizations in the world, that says more about you than the culture itself.
They're not embarassed. They have to pretend not to be chinese or they cannot be a part of NATO countries societies. I have to pretend to be korean at work to avoid blatant racism, exclusion, and bullying. I also have to pretend not to be chinese to have sex. You have no idea.
That title should be shared with the Persians to be frank.... another "uncool" ethnicity in the west....
@@manullimis it tho never knew that
@@manullim Persians, Arabs, Pakistanis and Russians are all not very popular in the west. Coincidentally their origin countries all have friendly relations with China.
If we tell others that we are Chinese, people usually give negative responses to us because of the anti-china propaganda in the West.
I'm not ashamed but i also aint going on and on about my heritage. I just find that weird, my HR dept once asked me if i wanted to share some of my experience of being an Asian American in the workforce and i was like "uhh i was born here, I've never even been to China." Just cause I'm not ranting about how amazing it is to be Chinese doesn't mean i'm ashamed to be Chinese lol
A lot of negative undertones of China from a western perspective at this time. It's not dissimilar to being a Russian person wherein the government acts in such a way that it's more comfortable to disconnect from your country of origin. Also, westerners tend to prioritize the entertainment equity of a given country more than just about anything, so that doesn't help.
Exactly because lifting 1000's of people out of poverty isn't considered "cool" because its not based on music, celebrity or pop culture. Take pop culture aside being Chinese is something to be incredibly proud of as one of the giants in the world who don't need to bow to the West.
Don't think what the Russian gov did was wrong at all, especially when compared to the US/izreal reg!mes.
Interesting. My family immigrated to San Francisco in the 1800's and relocated to Los Angeles in 1928. To date, we have 6 generations representing the Quan Tribe. I am deeply rooted in my Chinese pride and culture. We represent across the spectrum in regard to education and profession. As most of my 140+ family members have relocated to other regions of the United States, I am the only one still in Los Angeles. My grandmother was the strength and glue of our family. She raised 13 of her own children and 3 grandchildren. One of my uncles and cousin are Grand Masters in Kung Fu and as children, we were raised in that environment and culture.
Quan family in Sask.Canada
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How to be proud? I believe it comes from the parents. My parents raised me to be proud of my culture and I did the same with my kids. Both identify as Chinese and are proud of it but are really bi-racial. I think you need to appreciate the culture and teach your kids to appreciate it by embracing it.
Nope not ashamed.
I have NEVER been ASHAMED for being CHINESE (born and raise in the West), I still remember my Chinese Peers (ABC) and saying that we were "UNLUCKY" for being born Chinese? WTF, I always told them that we represent the LONGEST CONTINOUS CIVILIZATION in the WORLD, 10,000 years of CHINESE CIVILIZATION until today, PROUD of being Chinese! By the Way, we are the most populous in the World, over 2 Billions all add up, from Singapore to SouthAfrika, there is always a Chinese Chinatown EVERYWHERE, no other Civilization can say that, DO YOU KNOW how many "CHINESE RESTAURANT" exist in the WORLD; EASYYY!!!, more than the Rest Add Up.
Because of western media portray China so badly. A lot of asian started developing self hate.
This is the most empty version of showing pride for one culture. You didn’t provide anything virtuous or honorable about your culture, you just listed descriptions. Like learn to find things that you would be proud of about your culture that is salient and have some weight. Work on vocabulary to lift up your culture, there wasn’t much you’ve said that would make me think “dang being Chinese is cool, or honorable, or virtuous, or important”.
China doesn't have 10 thousand years of civilization 😂
They are BRAINWASHED. Also they are childish for being ashamed. What's so uncool about being Chinese?
@@henrytep8884China is not trying be a world policeman, doing regime changes and trying to start WWIII the way the US and its allies are doing. Is trying to maintain world peace virtuous enough for you?
@16:55 actually as a Chinese I am seeing alot of that "Chinese this and Chinese that" even though I dont even bring up the topic but they know Im Chinese. This particularly happens among right wing republicans regardless if they are white or asian. They always bring up the topic of China as if all the problems comes from China. And believe me, I see this at a bar. NO KIDDING!
No surprise. Out of jealousy and panic they can blame anyone. 30 years ago it was Japan and now it's China.
By the way, they also blame Mexico, Russia and many other countries.
If someone asks I just say American Born Chinese. I understand why though, the problem in the West is associating the people with Geopolitical issues with the PRC, COVID, etc. The pop culture of China is also far less Westernized vs Japan, South Korea. Japan, SK also has way more freedom of expression vs CHina. So the mass appeal of what they export for entertainment has a broader appeal.
I pity those self hated low esteemed people. You can’t earn peoples respect if you don’t respect yourself
I grew up being super ashamed of being Chinese because I grew up in a super rural white area in the US where being different wasn't cool, and I was made fun of for my Chinese appearance. It didn't help I had nothing to lean on since I was trans-racially adopted. I rejected my heritage until I went back for the first time in high school and that's when my arc started to wanting to learn more, learn the language, culture, etc. So glad now I'm at a place where I can feel okay with being Chinese American
Why did your parents adopt an Asian baby and not celebrate your culture? Seems abusive.
@@rickyayyI heard that in the past, white adoptive parents were advised to raise your kid colorblind. You know the thinking …I don’t see color. I see a person. You’re American, we’re family. We love you. That’s it.
It’s like If you point out how someone is different, they’ll feel self conscious. So don’t do it.
Today, the thinking when it comes to transnational adoption is totally different. They realized it was harmful to ignore the child’s heritage. I can see how sometimes you just want a child. And you just raise them American. Now adoptive parents have the added responsibility to learn, teach and embrace Asian culture or Black or Hispanic heritage cultures to support the child and develop a healthy sense if identity.
@@cassiopeia309You are correct
Hey buddy, you are a cool person, don't let others tell you what you are.
好吧，这是截然相反的两种文化。按个体来说，中国人可能没有那么酷，但是中国人这个群体和中国作为一个国家来说，这他妈太酷了。知道圣斗士星矢的一辉和贝吉塔吗？
Well it’s not surprising that a lot of Chinese Americans are ashamed to be Chinese when 1) China is portrayed extremely negatively in mainstream media & 2) other Asian countries are seen as “cooler” and “trendier” than China. It also doesn’t help that many other Asians are openly Sinophobic and take offense when they’re mistaken as Chinese (whereas they would be flattered if they were mistaken as Korean tbh).
Yeah, china is portrayed really negative in the Western MSM due to geopolitical factors. But outside of the West, you will find out that the US has a much worse reputation.
To Chinese-Americans, the fear of being confronted with CCP "crimes" happens more than actually being confronted with CCP "crimes".
This is a big one. Also if you are Chinese-American you are expected to be totally loyal to the US even if people treat you like shit. The gaslighting always comes about how rich Chinese/Asian people are, even when the person telling you this shit owns their home, and you're renting.
Damn
My experience with being confronted with and being associated with Communist China depends on cultural isolation and if one is in a hostile ethnocentric community. Last time it occurred to me was in the fall 2022 at Washington DC Metrorail station in Maryland while waiting for a bus - an old fat and short white man yelled at me to go back to China for about five to ten minutes. Another younger white guy interceded to protect the elderly racist who was yelling at the top of his lungs. Racism isn't a rational or reasonable behavior so asking him to stop would be a waste of time. However, the screaming racist did not pose a physical threat and knocking out the racist to make him shut up could be seen as an overreaction on my part.
Historic anti-Chinese racism in the US, coupled with the revival of McCarthyism and US domestic/global funding of media to bash China has succeeded in its intention to spread self-hate among Chinese in the west
CCP Crimes?
No big deal compared to the pro-izreal US Crimes.
I'm hmong and tell people I'm chinese cause they are the most hated, because their hate fuels me
😂😂😂
You must be a Sith lord
You must be an Indian and you people are irrelevant to us Chinese.
I think China's ticket to coolness is in their traditional instruments (for example guqin, erhu, guzheng). I think they sound way cooler than traditional western instruments like trombones (which I literally played in middle school as a white person) or violins
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I was introduced to the erhu from listening to the avatar soundtrack as a kid and it is my favorite instrument
It’s actually going to be athletics. Boxing, basketball, mma. Musical instruments aren’t relatable to the rest of the world and we can find excellent examples of Chinese athletes in each sport. Sports is the way for Chinese to build incredible influence.
Chinese should be the proudest. They have achieve the most. I can go on for months, but i dont have enough time. Just do your research.
Haha you mean Chinese are the biggest copycats in the world? Copied Korean cultures for 5000 yrs.
@@migukin7492Lol, Korea was a thing 5000 years ago? The only thing that I recall is that both Korea and Japan copied a lot of Chinese culture and traditions, writing, food, heck even their traditional clothing, the Hanbok and Kimono are heavily inspired by different Hanfu styles throughout the dynasties
Eternal empire
@@johndoe-db1ku look at Chinese today. Biggest copycats with full of inferiority complex. That’s why they always fabricate and distort history.
@@migukin7492 I can tell you are a South Korean
I am Chinese American. I always speak Chinese with people as long as they prefer Chinese.
There are a lot of misconceptions about chinese outside china bc until recently most overseas chinese are from guangdong, fujian, region. China is very diverse, the general divide is north vs south, north west is also different from north east, for example all the negative stereotypes about chinese, these stereotpes are way less prevalent in the north, ie: they are taller, heavier built, asian flush is rare in the north, food is more red meat etc.
Of course this is the in your face examples, and may seem kind of discriminatory against south chinese, but the point is if the world had a more of a understandings of chinese from all parts of china then there would be less negative stereotypes and may seem cooler.
If you look are for example fighting sports heavy weight boxing zhangzhi lei (one of the best in the world) and ufc champion zhang weili, and top 10 mens bantamweight song yadong, the first chinese fighter in ufc zhang tiequan, lijinliang (almost made top 10 welter weight), all of them are from the north. It is no accident.
There are other reasons such as the politics etc. But for the common people is it what you see from your everyday lives.
Of course understanding the history and culture of china also helps, china has a very deep and diverse culture its hard to have very characteristic traditions or a few defining traditions like the Korean or Japanese. One would have to really spend time to fully understand chinese history and culture.
Just to piggyback off the Nissan Analogy, Nissan wasn't always number 3. There is the skyline /GTR, that's a whole history of racing and cultural icons there from initial D to fast and furious etc.
I think that's just it, we just gotta stop avoiding talking about China and Chinese culture. Have those conversations, don't be afraid of giving our side of the narrative. Learn our culture, embrace our culture and go out there and represent.
How come your map didn't show the Philippines as being part of the Indosphere? The Philippines is also part of the Indosphere, and the Sanskrit words in the Tagalog language, that you all mentioned in a past video, confirms that. Baybayin, Laguna Copperplate Inscription, and the ancient Hindu artifacts at the Ayala museum in Manila confirms that the Philippines is part of the Indosphere, and DNA studies even show that Filipino people have South Asian ancestry/DNA in them, including me. Also, the Japanese language is a language isolate, it is not part of the Altaic language family, or even Korean.
As a Hmong person, saying “Asian” is easier to explain to non-Asians who aren’t familiar with culture ethnicities.
We’re the most unknown Asians of Asians without a country tied to our name lol (Even though people think we’re from Mongolia 😑)
I'm asian and I honestly didn't know about Hmong people until a couple years ago
@@maisondav1d Yea, we’re more known now than back then but it’s still up in the air with most people lol
We’re basically undocumented Vietnam war refugees that aided the U.S and fled from communism after the fall. You likely won’t find it in history books though, at least the ones I read in grade school.
I'm Chinese and I know that there are lots of Hmong living in Southern China and Vietnamese. And it is pronounced Miao in Mandarin.
China doesn't have the soft power that Japan (animes, mangas, and their cars and electronics - though that's more of the past reputation) and S. Korea (Westernized pop and drama and samsung, just in korean) has. Part of it, China can blame itself because they seem really clueless on soft culture export - hanfu, historical dramas, ancient instruments. These are the things readily available, but they don't know how to scale it into a cultural product. The HK'ers did extremely well during the 70s - 90s with Chinese cultural exports. The mainlanders are like a jigsaw puzzle.
Part of it is also the anti-China bashing by the western government and medias. They have potential in exporting brands for smartphones, smartwatches, electronics, and most recently ev cars, but all these brands are being sanctioned or blocked. LOL
Unfortunately the last part is mostly because they have copied western brands because they used to work for those companies. Then some western companies sued the look a like brands plus many companies are forced to report to CCP
Lol hanfu is recently made jackshit. Not even a tradition lol pigtail of qing is real chinese tradition
@@hlcapa Queue and qipao are Manchu culture not Han Chinese.
@@ricenoodles632 hanfu is made up crap lol Chinese are gaslighting themselves all the lies they spit are even true in their brain 😆
@@ricenoodles632 Of course it's not Han. It's manchu Chinese culture.
I am Chinese. I don 't think I am shame of being Chinese. I just think we don 't need to be defensive like other Asian groups. I don 't think we are threaten as a group. Suppose we are talking about Koreans. They are a much smaller group, and much more spread out. They have smaller safety net than Chinese people. All in all, Korean is very much in danger of losing to be Korean one generation or two. The same is not true for Chinese.
Love David’s old school rap video at the end!
Whatever make a car you are, be the model that stands out. Even if you're a Nissan, be the GT-R
China is the largest country in Asia and an adversary of america, thus gets a lot of attention. Some of which is quite negative that leads to stereotypes.
As a chinese person...I can tell you there is a lot of chinese in fighting... even just in main land alone.
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I was only in mainland China for six months in 2018. The infighting may have eluded me, especially as I was not fluent in Mandarin beyond possibly HSK1.
Would be nice if people can be honest and just say they want their ethnic group to win rather than give us long winded speeches about why they are on the side of “good” and how they are fighting evil.
Most kids that grow up and find themselves not being able to conform to their peer groups will feel some sense of shame with their identity simply because they have the desire to fit in. It's not even necessarily that they may hate their ethnicity because they're likely too young to understand the implications of that, but it's that they aren't the same cookie-cutter mold as the "cool kids." Fortunately, this tends to be a phase and most will wise up by the time they reach adulthood unless they go down the dark path of self-loathing.
I also grew up in a country that demonized and scapegoated Chinese people as the norm, so I empathize deeply with that comment. A good example is that one political party in my country went as far as to present a list of names in our largest city which by their own admission simply "sounded Chinese" in an attempt to gain favor by claiming massive 'foreign ownership' (specifically Chinese ownership) was responsible for housing scarcity etc. The list included many citizens and legal residents as well as owners who were actually offshore, it was literally just a list of people who owned property in the city who sounded Chinese.
All my life I've been encouraged to feel ashamed of my heritage here. Now that I'm older I feel like I've missed out on so much from trying to hide from it. I'll always regret turning down an invitation to join Lion Dance as a kid because I thought it would lead to me getting bullied more.
My religion was Indosphere, and my blood is Chinosphere, being 25% Chinese and 75% Khmer plus Buddhist, thanks to Chuan Daiguan entry 1296 ( name probably spell wrong)
But if you are truly interested, do your own research, which is very empowering.
I think it depends on their upbringing. I have always been overtly proud.
One of the quickest, and ACCURATE representation of Chinese is Chinese martial arts (it contains much of the history, the practices, the philosophies of China)… there is no need to say anything, just KNOW about Chinese martial arts (you just need to know the spirit)…….. You can go as shallow or deep as you want when discussing Chinese martial arts.. Start with the MARTIAL ART as well as THE PHILOSOPHY of Bruce Lee
If your chinese, honestly, just give it a good vibe.
Yes, not having a culturally cool Chinese identity is a BIG BIG part. Many still associate Chinese with old people (because Confucianism stressed respect of elders). Many outsiders mistaken RESPECT FOR ELDERS with other things.
I remember meeting a chick who was Chinese yet insisted on being referred to as Japanese.
It turns out she was born in Japan to Chinese parents. I'm a big believer in jus soli so I'll agree that she's Japanese as she was born there.
I did point out to her that she shouldn't distance herself from her Chinese heritage. If anything, she can embrace both her Chinese ethnicity and Japanese nationality.
However, she didnt see it that way and continues to identify herself as Japanese.
Its pretty sad to see someone who was as so passionate about disavowing their ethnicity.
I’m not Chinese/Chinese American. I’m Japanese American. I’ve never been ashamed of being who I am. Also, I’m a 4th generation. What I get, even as I am older, is that other Japanese do not perceive me as being Japanese or even Asian enough. My family has a few traditions, but I don’t speak it, nor do I dress like my counterparts here or in Japan. When I went to Japan, I stuck out like a sore thumb. Being taller and larger than the average person. I got some looks like “we can tell you are ethnically Japanese, but you aren’t.” I might as well been deaf mute because I could not communicate. Even in some shops here in LA, I get the odd look from the elders.
For me, living in the U.S. for over thirty years and met pretty much all kinds of Asians, I
feel it all comes down to the individual rather than their ethnicity/race/nationality. As long
as the person is respectful and kind and peaceful...I couldn't care less who they are and where
they are from. As you all know, there are good and bad Asians everywhere you go.
A lot of Chinese (from China) don't care and would rather use English names because it sounds cool and different and uses it as a form of escapism from mundane Chinese life. And as for Hong Kong, they used to be English colony and more often adopt English names than most other places in East Asia.
For Chinese Americans, I'm not too sure what the reason is. I think Chinese names are a bit more complicated to pronounce for English speakers. I know Cantonese and Mandarin are different, but both of those languages have some pretty weird Romanized spellings of names for English speakers where this is literally the opposite case for Japanese where almost every single name would be easy to pronounce for English speakers. Korean names pronunciations tend to be more complicated than Japanese, but overall isn't as difficult as Chinese, either.
Chinese food is interesting AF. But as someone who's been around Cantonese food for too long due to overwhelming majority of Cantonese/Fujian population in where I live, even as someone who isn't Cantonese, my impression of it is that it's one of the more boring cuisines even though it isn't supposed to be that way for someone who literally isn't Cantonese. This is the same with people. Because too much exposure to a group of people tend to lead to them being perceived as less interesting/fascinating.
Shieettt some Vietnamese take pride in having part Chinese in their bloodline…. My Cambodian friends that’s part Chinese are pretty successful in school and business
Fake news
Growing up Vietnamese, if u had high Chinese bloodline, you were considered more beautiful and in the upper echelon. I am a tall guy and my mom said it's because of the Chinese side of the family .But to think about the topic, Vietnamese stuck together more than the Chinese kids back then .
I noticed that about some of my Hmong friends. I remember talking about 23andMe and one of them felt proud that his sister had Han blood.
this is not really a common sentiment in mainland Vietnam though lol.
Nah, if you have small eyes (mắt hí) they will say you have Chinese blood or something and if your skin is darker than Vietnamese they will associate you with khmer or some other minority group. Kinh (my people) majority are very racist and discriminatingly against most ethnic minorities including Hoa (Chinese-Vietnamese)
@@icedragon7396Mostly because of political correctness, mainland Vietnamese admires Chinese a lot and a lot of Vietnamese girls want to marry Chinese men.
Chinese culture being cool is coming real soon, a lot of Chinese with money will brute force it. Chinese will be thee group the world will market to, and that will change the perception little by little.
Not happening…. A few days ago I just got my queue cut by a young mainland Chinese man. Gives me the bad impression about Chinese in general. They just don’t follow normal social norms as it’s not their norm to queue up properly so they exhibit those “normal behaviours” they do in China in other countries and show us their culture. 😂
The major factor is whether a Chinese knows Chinese history, it is natural to become proud and also aware of the issue of the culture if one knows the Chinese history. One doesn’t have to be an expert, they just need to have a cohesive SENSE of Chinese history to be proud of the Chinese identity. Without having a cohesive, cultural identity, Chinese will just be a second class citizen.
Because China is not a US vassal. All other Asian countries kowtow to USA and have favourable perceptions
They don't kowtow to the USA. They would prefer liberal democracy over autocracy. If India was as powerful as China or the USA, they would build stronger ties with India.
@@dylanblack3279 all of them ahve u.s bases and are considered "unsinkable aircraft carriers"
This is a tired trope. Stop embarrassing yourself.
@@HApqzr77 keep getting cucked
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I consult the business development in Greater China regions. That's one of the few places where looking Chinese is advantageous; people automatically assume you are an expert.
As a descendant of a PPl who had Their Culture,languages,& history beaten out of Us,I find it very ignorant,& shocking that ppl would deny Their heritage. Yeah,Us Black ppl grew up admiring Kung Fu/Martial Arts. Very interesting video!!!✌️
I hate calling myself Asian. I AM CHINESE DAMN IT!!!
The ONLY WAY to PROUD AND HAPPY TO BE WHATEVER YOUE OWN RACE is STOP WATCHING ALL ANGLO MOVIES AND MEDIA… the ONLY WAY TO FEEL PROUD AS AN CHINESE PERSON IS… WATCH LOADS OF MOVIES CHINESE ACTIONS & ROMANCE FILMS…
I think in smaller countries, it is natural to have strong nationalism and a cohesive ethnicity. Everyone feels like one big family. Because China is so big and diverse, the nationalism is much weaker. Han Chinese have different culture and language depending on the region. It is more like an empire. It is harder to care strongly about the whole country when each region is different
I think it's the perception of the world has on China. Either China as the cultural bully on the other Asian nations or as rising economic competitors and China's disregard indifference for other cultures or economic practices.
I think we should be proud of where we come from every person in this world is unique and special so we should own it .
Meh. I think those who are saying that people treat them worse when they find out that they're Chinese might be blowing things out of proportion or imagining things. I can see it happening a couple of times sure. But to report it as if though it's a common occurrence makes me question just how true that is. I'm 51 and lived here in the states almost my entire life. I haven't noticed a significant change from how people treat me as an asian dude versus being Chinese. The ONLY difference is if they think I'm one of their own and try to speak to me in their language. That's it.
May I suggest a shift in perception? Instead of looking for validation and acceptance from the outside, redefine what the label "Chinese" means. That is, for the outside world , that is a box with certain characteristics. Not real characteristics, but made up ones. And that box with that label is considered uncool or whatever adjectives we may attribute to it. Since it's all made up, we don't have to subscribe to that box as defined by whatever outside forces say it is. Look inside, show up authentically. People gravitate towards authenticity. Shame only attract disdain. Redefine from internal strength, not external view.
Man, whats with all the Nissan hate? Have y'all never heard of the RX-7, the Z, the GT-R (aka Skyline?!?!)? If anything dunk on Mazdas. 😂
Side note - In Mandarin there is separation of zhongguoren (Chinese Citizen) vs huaren (Han ethnic diaspora). Sort of hard to explain to non-Mandarin speaking people, but it might be a way to be proud of the culture whilst distancing oneself from the CCP.
As the older I get I just naturally drawn to the western ways. I lived in a western environment longer than in China. It’s not that I am ashame if being Chinese. It’s just that I am tired I have to do this and that “just because I am Chinese” and don’t act like a “ghost” that is what I am not cool with.
Yeah… idk if I’m imagining it, but it seems like nobody asks me questions about being Chinese, and I do wonder if it’s because we aren’t ready to talk abt the antagonistic geopolitics. I still tell everyone I’m Chinese, cuz I want to know what people personally think abt my country.
All Chinese are not monolithic. It comes down to your upbringing. If you are ashamed of being Chinese you weren't taught properly by your parents.
Or there is nothing to be proud of lol when they taunt your non Asian friends and assume they are poor and they tell the whole school your parents diss their class lolol and your Chinese parents aren’t even high class
@@quincy189 If you have Asians like that in your school that means you are attending sh**hole school.
@@quincy189there’s nothing to be proud of? Haha that’s something wrong with the upbringing then.
Not truly “ashamed”. I understand the real reason the US is hating on China is because China is kicking too much butt and developing too fast, so they want to maintain worldwide dominance. I just want to obtain benefits and not suffer the backlash from the racist elements of Western society. So on the surface if I downplay, it’s all an act. I am proud of what China has accomplished. F all the China haters.
china is only non white , non anglo saxons countries and cannot be tolerated to be superpower.
The current China isn't the real or good representation of Chinese (Taiwan is on another topic).. it's a evil cult at the very top level of the government. As a Hokkien abc myself, I don't down play on being Chinese, but I definitely exclude myself apart from China and its government
I don't think any American's care about China prospering, it's more of the rhetoric that they have been pushing lately. A lot of it is due to Xi Xinping and his push for more authoritarianism and threats against America. I've been following Chinese news for a long time and it got a lot worst when Xi got in power.
Global Chinese, this prosperous age is as you wish!
Global Chinese, YOU MUST HAVE CHINESE CULTURAL CONFIDENCE!
@@blockraven22and what might that be? He came to power under anti corruption campaign and has reduced corruption by a lot, as well as a lot more regulation. He has also taken China to the global stage in terms of soft power (China has a lot of soft power outside of the western influence, Brics, Africa, etc). Under his reign, a lot more has been invested into Chinese local companies to the point where there's now several Chinese companies that can trade blow to blow on the world stage like BYD, etc. I'm not saying that everything he does is correct and that he can't control everything, but how is that a negative?
I think it’s more to do with racism whilst growing up. Most people would have experienced this whilst growing up. When you are young you may not feel proud. From my experience of myself and other Chinese people I know, the older and wiser you become the prouder we are
It’s the geopolitics. Hard to feel proud of your heritage when you’re constantly called spies or foreign adversaries by Western media outlets
Ai-yah!!! I Chinese & I don't mind it much. I like Chinese food.
Love the historical context with images.
Chinese are not ashame.. LOL.. Most i know are VERY PROUD. This topic is inaccuarte. Most I know will let people know they are chinese.
so many self hatred thanks to the media fxxk.
that's only around other asians. around other races they are not proud to state they are chinese. especially not around caucasians
I am a proud asian I wouldn't change anything about. Asain has the best culture. If we all come together as one we would be the most powerful countries.
there are alot historically varities of Chinese people overseas, it's roughly 70 years since China was established in 1949, but ethnically Chinese people have existed in north america since qing dynasty, it's not accurate to identify ethnically Chinese people from outside of mainland and arrived on north america before 1949 as Chinese which usually refers to people from China.
this is the best time to be chinese... wtf are you talking about!
It was very hard for Chinese Americans in 2020 to the current day.
Maybe I'm way out of touch. But why do I need to be "proud" of being from Chinese ancestry? Maybe it's my jaded age. 45 yrs old. But at this point I'm perfectly fine being American. And happen to have Chinese ancestry. Maybe it's because I don't really interact with my relatives much. And I have 0 Chinese friends.
r u purposely stay away from chinese or u live in a super super white town?
I certainly am not
Andrew, you gotta have the heart to tell David...
it's because of the fear of being associated with the CCP like you two mentioned. But even then, the government shouldn't make you feel any less proud of your cultural identity. Why? Easy, because you and it's citizens aren't the government. At the end of the day, even if you support them or not, any political backlash of the CCP doesn't diminish your culture or race. You don't have to justify or explain why the CCP did this or that. Be proud of your race and culture no matter what.
edit: these points i made were already mentioned in the video. I didn't watch the whole video at the time of typing that.
Because of China obviously 😂
The household income inequality gap is wider in the Chinese descent American population than most other Asian American subethnic groups which led to different socio economic priorities and realities. Most non Chinese Asian American subethnic groups have come to America in the last 50 years and have been more uniformly influenced by immigration socio engineering policies that restrict the socio economic background and resources. The Chinese language and culture has had less impact on 3rd and 4th gen Chinese American. Money from Japan and South Korea into American economy has made them more popular. The concern with Chinese money is to the worry that it would be connected to the PRC PLA so big money from China goes through stricter scrutiny. Japan and South Korea entertainment exported to the USA is somewhat akin to how the Hong Kong culture exports to the USA in the 1970-1990s until the PRC took over Hong Kong. After the CCP took over HK - Communist Chinese Party Censorship on Hong Kong has handcuffed Hong Kong Culture and people started being concern that Hong Kong was subject to the whims of the Chinese Communist Party.
I am a South Korean. Koreans have influenced by Han Tang Song Ming. Still we consider those four are only true great China. Japan influenced by Baekje Korean dynasty(Originally from China but localized) and Tang. After Tang fall Japan techically closed up their country. You can easily find Tang influence in Japan. In Korea you can easily find Ming influence Han Tang Song stuffs are replaced. I hope Chinese have some more pride. We see low self-esteem of Chinese clearly through history trolls in the internet (and in real life as well). In macro viewpoint, China shouldn't name lunar calendar new year as "chinese new year". Jan 1st is not Italian's new year. This also displays low self-esteem. China should learn how would they behave from Italians.
"Chinse New Year" is not a term they use in China. It's usually call "春節" (Spring Festival) or "農曆新年" (Lunar New Year). "Chinese New Year" is a term coined in the western world.
They are not ashamed. They are tired of racism.
This is just my personal experience so take it with a grain with a salt, as a half Chinese person, I never really cared for Chinese culture or Asian culture in general. I don't listen to that feminine pop crap or EDM. I never really cared for anime and I certainly couldn't care less about K pop. I grew up whitewashed. I play guitar and love hard rock and heavy metal. My music of choice is Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Guns N Roses, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, AC/DC, Van Halen etc.
I do enjoy Chinese food and loved Bruce Less films growing up but other than that, I'm as a white washed as they come. Most of my friends were either white or Hispanic and I only dated white and Hispanic girls my entire life. Maybe it was the fact that I grew up in a non-Asian area but growing up, I was very unculturally Asian and still am to this day.
I find modern Asian American culture off putting. It's mostly going to boba shops, listening to KPop, watching Anime or going to raves. None of which I enjoy.
You both are so true!! I didn't know about other Asians until I gotten older so yes I thought all Asians where Chinese!! I'm sad about it because I am so happy now to learn about all Asian cultures now specially in the Philippines!! I love all Asian people specially Southeast Asians!!
That's not true that all asians have some chinese blood in their dna. Those ancestry tests are not even accurate especially for asians. They either tell you you're 100% of your ethnic origin or provide a list of multiple ethnic nationalities so it's not a reliable approach especially if you're asian. It works for all other races however. For a chinese they also show a small percentage of Japanese and small percentage of korean likewise. So it's no different from people from Europe or Africa sharing similarities within their neighboring countries.
Im chinese and damm proud to be
Even people inside China call themselves by their province e.g. Shanghainese, Beijing, Macau, HKer! Some of it is elitism. I've met some nice Chinese people over the years but generally people will focus on the negative things related to China and feel ashamed of the culture. Can't blame people having negative perceptions of Chinese cause some of the things they do is embarrassing e.g. being loud and obnoxious in public, spitting in public, not lining up for public transport, jumping lines, by stander effect, being rude. But not everyone is like that but even if you had 30% of people in a 1.3billion population doing those things it's not a good look. There's also geopolitics, CCP bullies it's neighbours, of course you're not going to have a positive view on them. Also cause of the brain washing you have a lot of tankies and pinkies being wolf warriors online and also in public. If more Chinese people behaved like Taiwanese or Japanese and showed respect to people, I'm sure they would be better perceived.
🤣 we see Taiwanese guys as fem sissies, com'on you should have known that
The United States is still a country where racial discrimination exists, at least when it comes to Chinese people.
America spends 500 million tax dollars a year spreading negative news about China. They make up fake news, they pay foreign news channels to demonize china and their own people don't know what is true and what is propaganda.
（Imagine the Chinese spend $500,000,000 on building infrastructure, fixing the infrastructure, helping homeless people, and providing medical care to the average person.）
Don't try to see the truth about China from the mainstream media in the United States and Europe. They don't even dare not broadcast the entire process of the opening ceremony of the "Beijing Winter Olympics China 2020", the opening ceremony of the "31st World University Games Chengdu 2023", and "19th Asian Games Hangzhou 2022" to the Western world. They are all constantly in a state of shame and sensitive inferiority, trying to blindfold you to cover up the facts and not let people in the Western world know the truth about China. "Freedom of speech"? It's just a lie to yourself and others.
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to answer your question of what one thing that chinese culture has that is super ccol, the answer is undoubtedly the chinese language and hanzi characters, but most american chinese arent well learned in chinese literacy that's why it is hard for them to feel proud
f*** that I always tell people I am Chinese.
Tell people you’re from Middle Kingdom our rightful name not accepting China or Chinese when non Chinese say it it’s almost like an insult or mockery to us. Our rightful name is Middle Kingdom nobody in China calls themselves Chinese. Chinese is a made up word that came from the Portuguese how we gona just accept a word they made up to basically mock us. Rightful title is Middle Kingdom. People from Middle Kingdom I would love to see trump try to say China to mock us while the crowd laughs with him when he says “China” in a funny way literally trying to mock and belittle us the rightful name is middle kingdom 中国 we are center of the world. Fucking United Kingdom name themselves United Kingdom when their original name is Albion. Fcking these albinos call themselves Great Britain after and than United Kingdom as if they some royalties with rich history when Chinese history is richer and older than them and we let the fucking Portuguese change our name from Middle Kingdom to fucking Chinese something that sounds ridiculous and funny. Every Chinese should take offense to being called Chinese like the N word cause we don’t call ourselves that in our Chinese language it’s Middle Kingdom and rest of the world needs to acknowledge. When trump says “Middle Kingdom” instead of “China” I would like to see who laughs and giggle. The word Middle Kingdom has power behind it and history and is seen as royalty not some made up Portuguese word China that literally sounds like a taunt or mockery
16:33 Wait where are the f ung Brothers from ancestrally in china? I don't know if they ever said that. What town?
A lot of the Chinese that arrived durong the gold rush, were southern canto Chinese. Descendants of those Chinese immigrants speak little or no Chinese now and would probably not know how to read Chinese characters
Nissan GTR’s top anything Honda & Toyota currently or ever had. Bad analogy bro.
The only Chinese thing I liked was Kung Fu the TV series from 1972.
12:30 the Altaic language family is not widely considered to be a true language family. There is simply not enough evidence to support the theory of its existence.
Honestly, as a Malaysian Chinese, I am never afraid to tell people my ancestors come from China. After all, my ancestors come from a land whose descendants build the city state of Singapore and within 30 years build up a nation to the point that challenges US supremacy globally. I am proud that my blood comes from a nation that are able to builds structures that amazes other cultures and peoples from the ancient times to today. Why?
Because I am immune to American media bullshit and propaganda about China. If American Chinese are ashamed of their ancestry and their ties to China, I suggest you people in the West consume less American bullshit about the rest of the world and visit China and see it with your own eyes like I did.
No… in Singapore, Singaporeans accept that not only Chinese, but Malays, Indians and people of many other ethnic groups help build our nation. We Singaporeans pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, language or religion. So please don’t speak for us, you’re not one of us.
Never.
What do you mean by uncool? That’s so subjective. I don’t see how parents can push Chinese cultures in an uncool way? I feel that they’re cool just you growing up in the USA with many anti Chinese sentiments feeling Chinese culture as uncool. So that’s so subjective and cannot be used as argument.
Im Korean American but i dont call myself that. Im very multicultural and less american , lol if that makes sense which it dont to a lot of people.