*A mother covering for her daughter would have been strategic and created much better excuses for text messages and social media.* She would have gone further in disposing of the body rather than keeping it as a trophy of triumph over him and her taking control and killing him. Lying as him, she would have said we're having marriage troubles, we can't make thanks giving this year, tipped someone off about meeting someone else and wanting to get out of the marriage, suggested his daughter can't stand him etc. and then vanished him with a much more convincing strategy. *She was instead arrogant and just stood with pride waiting for someone to dare confront her and they finally did.* She was also altogether prepared with her brainwashed daughter to cover for her. *Nothing about her story is protecting her daughter, it's her exploiting the child and by now, I wouldn't be surprised if she even has a false memory.* Meanwhile, a 7 year old that can use a gun will also know to call 911.
That poor girl will be traumatized for life…. Laura is a poor excuse of a mother… a true mother would do anything to protect their child Glad they came back with a guilty verdict …she deserves to be severely punished for all that she did!
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If a seven year old did it, you wouldn’t cover it up for years. You would get the emergency services there asap, knowing a seven year old wouldn’t be criminally responsible. You would get your child medical help to deal with the trauma.
Was about to say the exact same thing. The child would need therapy for years. You wouldn’t teach them how to bury a body in the back yard and build a concrete pad and firepit over it.
@@monicam7775 we know the dau ghter didnt do it. the mother is an evil succubus who is clearly so arrogant she actually thinks she might get away with it
@@monicam7775 but she had him buried and lied and covered up so she is just as guilty as any murderer under the law! Duh 🙄 And you fell for that lie blaming the daughter only 4 who could not hold a gun? Wow 🤯
@@FizzleFrazle we all know that but I honestly can't say what I would do as I know I would be freaking out. I think she is probably lying but... I guess I realize that I really don't know how I would react. I'm glad I've never been in this situation.
I understand the sentiment here but I think it's bordering upon a little self righteous. Most people would like to think that's what they would do but in all likelihood, you would just call the police and tell them the truth, that your child did it. Taking the blame would mean your child may lose you to the prison system so your child would lose both parents and your child would blame themselves anyway. A little child is less likely to be locked up in this instance.
@@elainemackenzie9651 Bullshit, I am 58 now I was 7 years old too, I was 7 years old long ago and I remember a lot of things and events even since I was 4 years old, you 7 years old you shoot someone you will never forget that shooting you did at 7, that girl is a piece of garbage like her mother!
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How could a seven year child shoot the father, think of the height of a seven year old and the father’s height, no way. She is guilty mother. And the nerve of her to blame her daughter, she also mentions that the children are her life.
this woman doesnt look that stupid that she would not comprehend that a 7yr old is a minor and IF she did shoot her dad would have been in defence of her mother so why not report it? Instead she thought it a much better idea to build a new fire pit area to bury him and conceal it all these years
The mother and the way she smiles in the courtroom, tells me she is controlling and manipulative; a sociopath. Not only did she kill him, but has manipulated her daughter to take the blame. If she was actually abused and killed him in self defence, she would have a downcast demeanor.
typical NARC her little girl will spend her life in a psych ward because of this monster NO child would do that the fact this woman buried a body tells you she was hiding it AND child murder is rare
Yes the narcissism is dripping off her. Someone who uses and abuses others callously. No empathy no remorse. Not even for her own kids. She’s disgusting. As for her wearing the crucifix 🙄 Manipulative down to the smallest detail.
I think her evil plan was to let her daughter take the rap, be found innocent and then have the daughter recant her story at her own trial. This woman is diabolical
My thoughts exactly! She's still responsible for leaving a firearm accessible and loaded with a 7 year old in the house and she's still responsible for concealing the body under concrete, and lying to LE.
Although, I believe the mom either brainwashed her daughter into thinking she committed the murder which would not be hard considering the child suffered a traumatic childhood that was filled with domestic violence so she can't decipher between true historical facts and the manipulative stories her mom has told her over the years OR the mom and daughter came up with this story once LE was searching the property and applying pressure to the mom. The mom could have sold the idea for her daughter to take responsibility by telling her minors can't be jailed for life like her adult mom can be (and should be IMO).
Also, a tiny short 7 yr old... handling & firing that type of gun, supposedly shooting her own much taller father in the back of his head? Not really physically even possible. The angle, etc. will be a huge issue to overcome. Normal people would have called the police right away imho, even if God forbid.. then got help for the child. She instead, hid everything. Guilty imho.
Should be easy to determine depending on the angle of the gunshot wound. A big difference between a a 7 year old and an adult shooter, unless the adult was kneeling down .
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I dont think there are any lengths that people will stoop to to get out of a crime even as low as trying to pin it on your child and the audacity to try and get people to fund her lawyer...I pray justice is served cold RIP to that man
A 7 yr old shooting a .38 calibur?? Their thinking: "If the daughter takes the blunt of it, they wouldn't do anything to her. Therefore everyone gets a way with it." On another note. I do not believe that 7 yrs old is the age of accountability. Plus, How in the world did a 7 yr old get a hold of the gun???
This one is seriously creepy. The information about Michael sleeping outside the home in an airplane hangar, and the report that Laurie told Michael that she was allowed to date other people but he was not, combine to suggest to me that Laurie was, in fact, the abuser in chief. Her statement that "[her] life was [her] children" leads me to wonder if she considers her children to be her possessions, whom she can use as she sees fit, or even as part of herself. If she does, then she is likely to be a sociopath. As I said, seriously creepy. That poor child. Whether she goes to prison or her mother goes to prison, she is gonna have sleepless nights for life.
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Im sorry but when you say my life is my children then why in hell would you even implicate your daughter? Even if she did do it and i highly doubt it then rather you go to jail then your teenage daughter
I am at a serious loss as to her video stating she has her suspicions and feels she has been set up yet claims also that it was her daughter? She either knows or she doesnt and it still does not account for her burying and concealing this man all these years
I mean, of course, she was a victim. Most women that feel trapped in a heterosexual relationship don't realize they are victims. Some may not even realize they feel trapped. We must acknowledge their victimhood and that they only acted in self-defense even if it may not fit the traditional definition of self-defense.
It would be funny (I mean not funny for the daughter) if they find the daughter guilty and sentence her to juvie until she’s 21 and then to adult prison. Would Laurie scream “STOP!” and confess or would she really let her daughter take the fall for her?
I’m sure if a child killed a parent, the other parent would rather say they did it to protect their child, so it seems weird to want to ruin your kid’s future. All very unusual..
IF the daughter had done it, she could have called emergency services. I'm not in the U S but I presume a 7 yr old wouldn't get charged with murder. Why bury him and lie about his whereabouts for years, IF the daughter did it intentionally or accidentally? In her video, she calls it "this heinous crime" yet pointing the finger at her daughter. I think the mother did it. There's too much behaviour after the fact that doesn't add up.
16:20 I grew up with guns in the house (granted, they were never just out on a nightstand- they were all always in a locker that I wasn’t even shown the location of the key to until I was 34yo) and have had firearm safety drilled into me as far back as I can remember to the point I subconsciously hold any “pistol grip” item, like drills and even spray bottles, with my index finger out and off the trigger. By 7yo, I was definitely capable of using a firearm. I had a pellet gun I shot in the backyard unsupervised all the time and by that age had shot a .22 rifle, with my dad, numerous times. I doubt I’d ever shot a real pistol by that age, maybe a bb pistol, but I was definitely capable of firing one. Although, I was taught to never shoot people at that age and highly doubt I’d have shot, of all people, my own dad…
Protect her from what? There's no evidence he was beating her. Did they have a volatile past? Maybe, but it sounds like it was mutually abusive at best and she was abusing him & setting him up at worst! She's diabolical! She absolutely convinced her daughter to take the rap because she told her she won't be prosecuted and she needs to save her mom. The whole thing is just horrible & they got a lawyer to go along with this nonsense 😒 🙄 😑
She might have played a game with her, pretending she's shooting the dad, helping her to pull the trigger and then making her think that she's killed her dad. It sounds like a crazy idea but I remember a babysitter I knew who pretended taking the children she was taking care of to the park and by the evening when mom got home the children told her they went to the park. So, the daughter would probably believes she has done it.
Imagine seeing your husband unalived by your 7 year old then dealing with seeing him dead then deciding to deal with his body digging a hole and dragging him into it and covering him up and then living with him being buried there where you live and seeing the grave every day …. No matter which way I look at this it is no where near normal and neither is the mother to have behaved like this . A normal person would have been traumatised and phoned LE straight away. She’s guilty imo and not her daughter smh .
I think she is guilty and banking on the fact that her daughter won’t be put in prison! I also think it’s important to remember that if her 7 year old did do this she would have called emergency services, because accidents happen and she was claiming she was being beaten by her husband!
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The ticker running across the bottom is a lie. Vance did not say this in this context. I’m appalled that you guys would further this lie. I have lost all respect for court tv and you. What he said when quoted was the opposite of this. Disgusting that you would lie when pro porting to be a truth seeker. Couldn’t be more disappointed
Let's be for real. The mom has brainwashed her daughter and told her daughter if you take the blame for this, you won't be in jail, and if you do, it won't be for long. If I go to prison, I'll never get out, and you won't have a mom. I bet that's what she did to her daughter because who in their right mind will say hey I killed my dad when I was 7
I can't imagine a 7 year old not only committing the act but keeping the secret. 7 year olds tell people everything, this is an extremely heavy burden to carry.
I don't believe her. This poor child is obviously lying for her mother. They have told her she won't be prosecuted so she needs to save her mom. I can't believe this is even a thing! The whole scenario seems higly improbable. The woman is definitely evil!
This is nuts. I live in a fairly remote place where most hunt and have guns and encourage kids to understand guns to hunt and protect the home, and I have never heard of anybody training their 7 year old. It’s ridiculous. There’s no way even if that age has pulled some triggers would have the wherewithal to land a kill shot of her daddy. Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Could she have been just aiming AT him, and the the force of the gun going off caused it to pull up and hit him in the head?? When I first got my glock, it took a while to hit what I aimed at for that reason. 🤷♀️🙄 And I was an adult. So saying she couldn't have "shot him in the head" at her age with that gun, well she might not have been trying to! Just saying.
Wait a minute. No way. I was a kid the first time I held a gun. I was not prepared for how heavy it was. I don't think a seven y/o could hit what they were aiming at. A child would lie to protect her Mom. Especially if the Mom told her a child would not be punished.
So a 7 years old killed her father , saw the wound, the blood, the aftermath of the killing and the 7 year old was mentally ok , couping just fine at hone , school, with friends etc, yeah right
My heart breaks for that child. That so called mother should be ashamed. If she wanted to lie why couldn't she have played the battered wife defense. That might have been more believable than this fairytale defense that they concocted and reconcocted ( is that a word?) whatever she is going to jail where she should be for a long time..
So if the daughter shot him why would the mother cover it up and have him hidden buried? She is going to prison either way for putting him under fire pit and concocting the lies! “Evil Woman” - ELO in my head 🤣
Why would you cover up if he was actually abusing you at the time and your young daughter at age 7 shot him because she was scared why not just say she did it and not cover it up ither the boyfriend and mother did it sad of a mother to do that .
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I haven't heard about this, so I really don't know what to think. It's sort of shocking.....a 7 yr old didn't do it.....just creepy and disturbing!
*A mother covering for her daughter would have been strategic and created much better excuses for text messages and social media.* She would have gone further in disposing of the body rather than keeping it as a trophy of triumph over him and her taking control and killing him.
Lying as him, she would have said we're having marriage troubles, we can't make thanks giving this year, tipped someone off about meeting someone else and wanting to get out of the marriage, suggested his daughter can't stand him etc. and then vanished him with a much more convincing strategy.
*She was instead arrogant and just stood with pride waiting for someone to dare confront her and they finally did.*
She was also altogether prepared with her brainwashed daughter to cover for her. *Nothing about her story is protecting her daughter, it's her exploiting the child and by now, I wouldn't be surprised if she even has a false memory.* Meanwhile, a 7 year old that can use a gun will also know to call 911.
That poor girl will be traumatized for life…. Laura is a poor excuse of a mother… a true mother would do anything to protect their child
Glad they came back with a guilty verdict …she deserves to be severely punished for all that she did!
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She said her children are her life but has no problem throwing her daughter under the bus to save her skin
@@SukriCadey She is the definition of evil.
That is the smoking gun...a mother who throws her own kid under the bus!
If a seven year old did it, you wouldn’t cover it up for years. You would get the emergency services there asap, knowing a seven year old wouldn’t be criminally responsible. You would get your child medical help to deal with the trauma.
Came here to say exactly this.
Exactly!!!!
Right! She is an evil liar!
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Was about to say the exact same thing. The child would need therapy for years. You wouldn’t teach them how to bury a body in the back yard and build a concrete pad and firepit over it.
What kind of mother would throw her daughter under the bus?!! She is E V I L.
100%
Well she didn't do it
@@monicam7775 we know the dau
ghter didnt do it. the mother is an evil succubus who is clearly so arrogant she actually thinks she might get away with it
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@@monicam7775 but she had him buried and lied and covered up so she is just as guilty as any murderer under the law! Duh 🙄
And you fell for that lie blaming the daughter only 4 who could not hold a gun? Wow 🤯
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Hi Allison 😀 seems to me we have some concrete evidence!
Even if my child did it, I would take the blame and never let my child be blamed for it as a small child, especially if she was protecting me. 🤬
Same. People tend to think they knew what they would do in a situation but most of us would actually act very differently.
But that’s even more reason to call the police! It would be justified and they wouldn’t charge a little girl. It’s sick she’s blaming the kid NOW
Well she now got caught for something she didn't do
@@FizzleFrazle we all know that but I honestly can't say what I would do as I know I would be freaking out. I think she is probably lying but... I guess I realize that I really don't know how I would react. I'm glad I've never been in this situation.
I understand the sentiment here but I think it's bordering upon a little self righteous. Most people would like to think that's what they would do but in all likelihood, you would just call the police and tell them the truth, that your child did it. Taking the blame would mean your child may lose you to the prison system so your child would lose both parents and your child would blame themselves anyway. A little child is less likely to be locked up in this instance.
The kid did not do it. The "mom" most likely brainwashed her LITTLE girl to believe what she is confessing to.
Exactly! That child has had false memories planted in her head,
@@elainemackenzie9651 Bullshit, I am 58 now I was 7 years old too, I was 7 years old long ago and I remember a lot of things and events even since I was 4 years old, you 7 years old you shoot someone you will never forget that shooting you did at 7, that girl is a piece of garbage like her mother!
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She is trying to save herself by blaming her young daughter
"Devoted" mother who allows their child to confess to a murder - yeah NO !!
Walking around the courtroom like she's at some kinda social event.
She is definitely over confident she probably thinks she will walk
Yep
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How could a seven year child shoot the father, think of the height of a seven year old and the father’s height, no way. She is guilty mother. And the nerve of her to blame her daughter, she also mentions that the children are her life.
They’re only her life now only because they might be able to keep her out of prison.
this woman doesnt look that stupid that she would not comprehend that a 7yr old is a minor and IF she did shoot her dad would have been in defence of her mother so why not report it? Instead she thought it a much better idea to build a new fire pit area to bury him and conceal it all these years
This sick woman is trying to play a game with her child’s life and the justice system. Twisted.
Problem with the 7 yr old story, ya call the police immediately and tell them what happened. End of story.
The mother and the way she smiles in the courtroom, tells me she is controlling and manipulative; a sociopath. Not only did she kill him, but has manipulated her daughter to take the blame. If she was actually abused and killed him in self defence, she would have a downcast demeanor.
typical NARC her little girl will spend her life in a psych ward because of this monster NO child would do that the fact this woman buried a body tells you she was hiding it AND child murder is rare
Yes she looks very cold & egoistic
Yes the narcissism is dripping off her. Someone who uses and abuses others callously. No empathy no remorse. Not even for her own kids. She’s disgusting. As for her wearing the crucifix 🙄 Manipulative down to the smallest detail.
I think her evil plan was to let her daughter take the rap, be found innocent and then have the daughter recant her story at her own trial. This woman is diabolical
So basically no one loved this man at all? No one missed him? Damnn,what a sad thought.
That's her version of him
People tried but she ran them all off. The sick manipulator murderer that she is.
@@AngelaK-55 it it and is not, no one reported him missing for months. Why didn’t his family report him sooner? They didn’t love him at all it seems.
@@AngelaK-55No one missed him, that is the point
So sad, he looks nice guy.
Her story doesn't pass the stink test.
🦨🦨🦨 not one bit
Even if the 7 year old at the time pulled the trigger the gun owner is and should be held responsible for not safety locking up that gun .
My thoughts exactly! She's still responsible for leaving a firearm accessible and loaded with a 7 year old in the house and she's still responsible for concealing the body under concrete, and lying to LE.
Although, I believe the mom either brainwashed her daughter into thinking she committed the murder which would not be hard considering the child suffered a traumatic childhood that was filled with domestic violence so she can't decipher between true historical facts and the manipulative stories her mom has told her over the years OR the mom and daughter came up with this story once LE was searching the property and applying pressure to the mom. The mom could have sold the idea for her daughter to take responsibility by telling her minors can't be jailed for life like her adult mom can be (and should be IMO).
Also, a tiny short 7 yr old... handling & firing that type of gun, supposedly shooting her own much taller father in the back of his head? Not really physically even possible. The angle, etc. will be a huge issue to overcome. Normal people would have called the police right away imho, even if God forbid.. then got help for the child. She instead, hid everything. Guilty imho.
This is a 100% my dog ate my homework defense even know that’s more creditable than what she is saying!
Poor child losing her father then being blamed 😢
I'm having a hard time believing it was the daughter. Reason being is she would have spoken about it to her school friends, even if it was brief.
Should be easy to determine depending on the angle of the gunshot wound. A big difference between a a 7 year old and an adult shooter, unless the adult was kneeling down .
I was thinking the same thing. I was going to ask if after all this time if they could still determine the angle the shot came from.
Easy for the defense. She(adult) was kneeling 😂
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I dont think there are any lengths that people will stoop to to get out of a crime even as low as trying to pin it on your child and the audacity to try and get people to fund her lawyer...I pray justice is served cold
RIP to that man
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A 7 yr old shooting a .38 calibur?? Their thinking: "If the daughter takes the blunt of it, they wouldn't do anything to her. Therefore everyone gets a way with it." On another note. I do not believe that 7 yrs old is the age of accountability. Plus, How in the world did a 7 yr old get a hold of the gun???
Let me get this straight. The body is buried in her back yard and she’s claiming her innocence 😂😂😂
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Temper temper Laurie.🙄 I don't believe her. I'm a DV survivor and I'd too many documented injuries. She's lying. Poor kid.
This one is seriously creepy. The information about Michael sleeping outside the home in an airplane hangar, and the report that Laurie told Michael that she was allowed to date other people but he was not, combine to suggest to me that Laurie was, in fact, the abuser in chief. Her statement that "[her] life was [her] children" leads me to wonder if she considers her children to be her possessions, whom she can use as she sees fit, or even as part of herself. If she does, then she is likely to be a sociopath. As I said, seriously creepy. That poor child. Whether she goes to prison or her mother goes to prison, she is gonna have sleepless nights for life.
Do you know what's a really good sign of a narcissist. If they refer to their children as MY children and not OUR children! My very narcissistic ex used to always say my son and never referred to him as our son even if I was standing right next to him? I didn't even realize it until it was called out by a marriage counselor and it made a lot of sense to me as to that should have been a clue as to how narcissistic he was. Any lawyer will tell you how much words matter
Im sorry but when you say my life is my children then why in hell would you even implicate your daughter? Even if she did do it and i highly doubt it then rather you go to jail then your teenage daughter
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I am at a serious loss as to her video stating she has her suspicions and feels she has been set up yet claims also that it was her daughter? She either knows or she doesnt and it still does not account for her burying and concealing this man all these years
She has “nothing to do” with his murder?!?! So, it was not that the guys was doing anything to her, and she didn’t bury him either.
I mean, of course, she was a victim. Most women that feel trapped in a heterosexual relationship don't realize they are victims. Some may not even realize they feel trapped. We must acknowledge their victimhood and that they only acted in self-defense even if it may not fit the traditional definition of self-defense.
Her eyebrows solely should be admitted as evidence !
It would be funny (I mean not funny for the daughter) if they find the daughter guilty and sentence her to juvie until she’s 21 and then to adult prison.
Would Laurie scream “STOP!” and confess or would she really let her daughter take the fall for her?
This is the most EVIL thing a parent can do to a child. Tho man was killed and buried obviously she did it. Justice for Michael
Bs, mom did it
Wow this woman is pure evil! I mean horror movie material 😮
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I’m sure if a child killed a parent, the other parent would rather say they did it to protect their child, so it seems weird to want to ruin your kid’s future. All very unusual..
IF the daughter had done it, she could have called emergency services. I'm not in the U S but I presume a 7 yr old wouldn't get charged with murder. Why bury him and lie about his whereabouts for years, IF the daughter did it intentionally or accidentally? In her video, she calls it "this heinous crime" yet pointing the finger at her daughter. I think the mother did it. There's too much behaviour after the fact that doesn't add up.
Absolute BS the 7yr old story. Did the 7yr old bury him under a firepit? And send fake messages to his boss?
Asinine Defense!
16:20 I grew up with guns in the house (granted, they were never just out on a nightstand- they were all always in a locker that I wasn’t even shown the location of the key to until I was 34yo) and have had firearm safety drilled into me as far back as I can remember to the point I subconsciously hold any “pistol grip” item, like drills and even spray bottles, with my index finger out and off the trigger. By 7yo, I was definitely capable of using a firearm. I had a pellet gun I shot in the backyard unsupervised all the time and by that age had shot a .22 rifle, with my dad, numerous times. I doubt I’d ever shot a real pistol by that age, maybe a bb pistol, but I was definitely capable of firing one. Although, I was taught to never shoot people at that age and highly doubt I’d have shot, of all people, my own dad…
I would like to know what position Michael was in when shot, was he lying down or standing up
Supposedly he was sitting.
Seated, apparently.
I think I would have tried to protect my mother no matter what.
Protect her from what? There's no evidence he was beating her. Did they have a volatile past? Maybe, but it sounds like it was mutually abusive at best and she was abusing him & setting him up at worst!
She's diabolical!
She absolutely convinced her daughter to take the rap because she told her she won't be prosecuted and she needs to save her mom.
The whole thing is just horrible & they got a lawyer to go along with this nonsense 😒 🙄 😑
If an act of protection why bury the body. Did a child un alive her father?
Blaming your 7 year old daughter…. Unreal
Clearly we have some concrete evidence!
Give them both a lie detector test
She might have played a game with her, pretending she's shooting the dad, helping her to pull the trigger and then making her think that she's killed her dad. It sounds like a crazy idea but I remember a babysitter I knew who pretended taking the children she was taking care of to the park and by the evening when mom got home the children told her they went to the park. So, the daughter would probably believes she has done it.
Glad Jeremy Saw the Light & Took Ownership for His Actions.💙
This is a very creepy case. WTF?
Imagine seeing your husband unalived by your 7 year old then dealing with seeing him dead then deciding to deal with his body digging a hole and dragging him into it and covering him up and then living with him being buried there where you live and seeing the grave every day …. No matter which way I look at this it is no where near normal and neither is the mother to have behaved like this . A normal person would have been traumatised and phoned LE straight away. She’s guilty imo and not her daughter smh .
Still unanswered for me is how she managed to kill him, drag his dead body around, dig a hole and bury him. That’s a lot to do by oneself.
I bet this child has been completely brainwashed, over the years. So horribly sad!!!!
The worst moms are always “they are my life”
Please explain why there is no perjury charge for the daughter?
I think she is guilty and banking on the fact that her daughter won’t be put in prison!
I also think it’s important to remember that if her 7 year old did do this she would have called emergency services, because accidents happen and she was claiming she was being beaten by her husband!
Too little CONTENT. Too much META.
We love the front part of Vinnie's shows, especially the actual reporting of the case, and his commentaries. Clearly, he continuously educates himself as to the subject. We have been fans since the OJ trial.
When the panelists and Thinktankers appear, we change the channel. Many times, it seems like they are pulling answers out of their arses, as though this viewing was the first they have seen of the case. They tend to not be quick on their feet. Too many times, they talk on and on about their OWN experiences. Frequently, they misspeak about the "facts" of the case.
The ticker running across the bottom is a lie. Vance did not say this in this context. I’m appalled that you guys would further this lie. I have lost all respect for court tv and you. What he said when quoted was the opposite of this. Disgusting that you would lie when pro porting to be a truth seeker. Couldn’t be more disappointed
This woman calls generational pain and is looking for empathy from the public 👉🤡
Let's be for real. The mom has brainwashed her daughter and told her daughter if you take the blame for this, you won't be in jail, and if you do, it won't be for long. If I go to prison, I'll never get out, and you won't have a mom. I bet that's what she did to her daughter because who in their right mind will say hey I killed my dad when I was 7
This "mother" is absolutely heartless and cold! She killed her husband and blamed her child. So glad she's in prison
I can't imagine a 7 year old not only committing the act but keeping the secret. 7 year olds tell people everything, this is an extremely heavy burden to carry.
Do normal people have all these guns in their house?? It’s crazy to me! He pulls a gun, she pulls her gun and hits him on the head with it. Wild.
Michael, would need Nicole Atkinson as a friend and Laurie'd be two days latter behind bars! 🤷🏻♀️
She knows her daughter won't do any time for shooting her father! We all know the mother did it and is throwing her daughter under the bus
Betty Lou Beets did it all first.
I don't believe her. This poor child is obviously lying for her mother.
They have told her she won't be prosecuted so she needs to save her mom.
I can't believe this is even a thing!
The whole scenario seems higly improbable.
The woman is definitely evil!
This is nuts. I live in a fairly remote place where most hunt and have guns and encourage kids to understand guns to hunt and protect the home, and I have never heard of anybody training their 7 year old. It’s ridiculous. There’s no way even if that age has pulled some triggers would have the wherewithal to land a kill shot of her daddy. Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Could she have been just aiming AT him, and the the force of the gun going off caused it to pull up and hit him in the head?? When I first got my glock, it took a while to hit what I aimed at for that reason. 🤷♀️🙄 And I was an adult. So saying she couldn't have "shot him in the head" at her age with that gun, well she might not have been trying to! Just saying.
Update: The jury didn't buy her nonesense. GUILTY
"I didn't kill my husband " as she nods her head affirmatively
So what is her story after the daughter shot him? What did they do with the body? How do they justify not calling the cops?
This is obvious case of “say you did it, you’re a kid! They can’t lock you up”
The Irish say you die twice. The day you take your last breath, and the last time someone says your name. 😢
Wait a minute. No way. I was a kid the first time I held a gun. I was not prepared for how heavy it was. I don't think a seven y/o could hit what they were aiming at. A child would lie to protect her Mom. Especially if the Mom told her a child would not be punished.
And especially if the mom told her that she (the mom) would be taken away from the daughter if the daughter didn’t confess.
Even if my child shot my husband, I would never put her through a trial, I would admit guilt to protect my child.
no one is an expert
So a 7 years old killed her father , saw the wound, the blood, the aftermath of the killing and the 7 year old was mentally ok , couping just fine at hone , school, with friends etc, yeah right
My heart breaks for that child. That so called mother should be ashamed. If she wanted to lie why couldn't she have played the battered wife defense. That might have been more believable than this fairytale defense that they concocted and reconcocted ( is that a word?) whatever she is going to jail where she should be for a long time..
That boy who shot his teacher in virginia was 6. People who own guns have kids who know how to fire.
I know I'm going to get a lot of tomatoes thrown at me for this one but that was a whole different demographic and a whole different household
So if the daughter shot him why would the mother cover it up and have him hidden buried? She is going to prison either way for putting him under fire pit and concocting the lies!
“Evil Woman” - ELO in my head 🤣
how could anyone blame a child esspecially a 7 year old thats one f......up mother
Like you said Vinnie unbelievable 🙄!
That girl can be a dangerous citizen. She learned to lie, she lie to the oath and she didn’t care about her father at all!!!!!
Yikes , what a sad case .
Good news that Jeremee admitted his affair to his wife when she confronted him, and they reconciled.
Why would you cover up if he was actually abusing you at the time and your young daughter at age 7 shot him because she was scared why not just say she did it and not cover it up ither the boyfriend and mother did it sad of a mother to do that .
Shes 14 now
Evil eyebrows.👹
🤨 This Chick is Guilty as Sin"!!!,God is Watching"!!!,🤨 however it was the universe that Brought Her to this Point",🤨 people just don't understand how the universe works"Perhaps I'll explain later",🤨 But for now let me get Back to her", Self-Centered Thinking",🤨 I'll Blame it On My Child", and We all Can live Happily ever After",🤨 Pathological Liar,"!!!, they thought this Man Would Never Be Found",🤨 however the universe had Other Plans"!!!, it Always Does",🤨 those who will Be Judging"know their OWN"!!!!🤨.
Everyone thinks they are Karen Read now. It’s fascinating.
This case is nothing like kara read case at all
I think it’s a strategy of the defense to transfer blame to the child and hopefully get a lighter sentencing for an underage minor.