Also to further support the claim that aliexpress watercooling isn't bad, I even have aliexpress fittings, pump and reservoir. All this in a hardline build.
I can assure you a lot of the r/watercooling community uses byski and barrow watercooling gear and I have not heard a single issue with it. I can even speak from experience. I've talked to them personally when I needed help and I can tell they aren't just some random goons trying to cheap off on watercooling parts, they really are enthusiast just like us.
The video is in 4k so it was definitely shot on the RED. I also don't think they really shoot on anything else other than the REDs, though I'm not 100% on that.
Azuralis - lol what does this being in 4k on TH-cam have to do with anything? They also still shoot with the A7SII (which can do 4k) and all sorts of drones and GoPro's all of which can shoot 4k. Which doesn't even matter because an older 1080p camera can still just be upscaled to 4K for TH-cam anyway.
Pretty much I mean I get economies of scale. Clearly there are few people doing custom loops in the grand scheme of things. Yes this often means they aren't able deploy super mass production techniques but the price of a basic loop these days from a company like EKWB for example can easily run you a grand like you could build a whole nother mid high end range pc for that kind of money. Just no way in hell a rad, some water blocks and a pump / res should cost anywhere near that. That you can find water pumps that are used in other applications for dirt cheap but for water cooling all of the sudden they are priced like they are space age technology that took a next generation fab to build which is nonsense. You can easily build a whole loop with a brand like byski or barrow and spend at least half if not less and get equal results.
Definitely. WIth Bykski and Barrow being more mainstream now in china, they are such good options for more affordable waterblocks and fittings. You save a good amount with pumps too, but probably better to go for one with warranty. Also I believe Bykski makes gpu waterblocks for almost every card out there, so if there is someone with that weird pcb card, bykski probably has it.
not to mention that a good $90 air cooler is about 20 times less hassle with similar performance. Unless RGB and gamer swag is worth the extra $200 + future maintenance
@@Tjocksnorriss i ordered a 500$ custom water cooling kit from barrow.I cant wait to get it.I saw many reviews and opinions about barrow and everyone says barrow has a better quality products over bykski so buy barrow.I dont say that bykski is bad but buy barrow
daniel flecha we used to live by a stream and the neighbor pumped out water for his horses and other animals. Very illegal but in the middle of nowhere it was a cool set up
As a Chinese, I have to mention that the sellers on Aliexpress know that u guys are all foreigners so they make the prices much much much higher than they should be.
@John Smith Well, China is Communism, not Capitalism. with communism everything they make goes to the government and the government distributes it out to everyone else. Or at least that is the way communism is supposed to work.
@@bkpickell ... political scientist here (i know, it's a crappy diploma) but at least I have studied enough to tell you're wrong, you're saying the basic knowledge of communism and implication on government public politics, it doesn't work that way in China's communism. check wikipedia on "politics of china". I am no expert on China' studies (and I'm from Brazil) but it's been a while since the private sector in China is somewhat free to do business without the State intervention. So calm down when you talk about communism and capitalism. 2018 governments are totally different from the old fashion regime knowledge.
That shipping time has to be due to your customs, most orders are automatically closed after 2 months of not receiving anything and either getting your money back or resending it after notifying the seller and/or aliexpress.
Recently, I've been getting sub 1 week shipping times in EU, I'm really surprised (5 orders now, all in less than a week, they take 3 - 4 flights and the first flight from the bay area is usually just hours from posting the package, impressive).
I've been using Barrow for a long while now and have ZERO issues. It's half the price and after building 10-12 client systems using their hardware, I've realized it's the exact same manufacturer as BitsPower. YOU SHOULD BE USING BARROW!!!!
Christopher McCabe i ordered like $100 of Barrow fitting, what it should be like $300 of bitspower ones, im just waiting to they arrive to compare them with the bitspower
Really surprised they didnt get barrow gear. But i guess they dont fit their either stupid expensive or stupid cheap product content. They are very reasonably priced, are decent quality and perform fantastically.
Barrow actually makes pretty good liquidcooling parts. Their fittings are used by many people, with a lot of coverage on different tech forums. I've decided to build almost full loop using Barrow parts: CPU block, fittings, their "D5" pump, res, tools etc. Only things not from Barrow were radiator (full copper one added to much weight to package, so I've bought one locally), GPU block (bought EVGA 1080Ti Hydro edition), tubing and fluid. Since my order was a big one I've got a nice discount from seller and DHL shipping for $15 to EU. Whole process from processing order to shipping, customs and delivery took about 3-4 weeks with shipping alone done in 4 days. Latest CPU blocks from Barrow are really not that bad - ones with a higher channel density. During tests there were maybe 2C difference between EK Supremacy. I'm very happy with my purchase and performance. Price vise whole order with DHL shipping and customs tax included was about 50-60% of the price for the same parts from a mid-range EU/US company and about 1/3rd of the high-end one. So that kind of savings for a negligible performance difference is totally worth it in my opinion.
In fact I am using Barrow's TR4 block with coolant temp display, works pretty well so far. Oh and also the Bykski TR4 block actually easily out-preformed the older EK version, as tested on HardOCP.
I Agree Adrian. I'm using Barrow LTFHB-02N 115X RGB - it's their latest revision CPU block with 0.2mm channels and it really performs like EK Supremacy for half a price. RGB lighting is compatible with my Gigabyte board so I can use Fusion software to sync all the effects.
Actually ordered a complete loop back in 2016 with copper rad, pump, hardtubing, res and fittings.. And it was darn fine for the price.. The fittings especially. Had triple rubber rings inside, plus additional rubber rings included.. It was tight and worked perfectly. And I have worked with ekwb, Alphacool and xspc before, so I do have something to compare it to.
I have a Bykski waterblock because they're the only people who make a block for the Gigabyte GTX 1070/1080 Mini versions. And it's awesome. It looks great and even has a (definitely illegal) Gigabyte logo on it.
Well my chinese Jonsbo air cooling keeps my i7 4790 at 40 degress Celsius even under stress testing for 30 minutes. 30€. I think I did not need a much more expensive product do I ? x)
i am looking you about two months and all I have seen of your videos is NOTHING clickbait or kind of... (I can´t speak so good english because i´m from Austria, you know) Best YTber of alll times!
Can confirm, I had some xspc 90 degree rotary fittings, they started leaking about 1 week after building the pc, replaced with Barrow ones, superb quality.
I remember building watercooled rig back in 1999. Jeez, it was almost 20 years ago... Anyway, i had a friend who had access to the milling machine (just analog, CNC wasn't that popular in those days) and he knew how to use it. I new smth about welding copper, and together we made 3 blocks for CPUs. We were using aquarium pumps. And car radiators from the scrapyard - in fact, my radiator was from the heating loop, the smaller one that heats the air pumped into the car. Custom made water reservoir (from a lunch box ;-)). Of course, the pump was running on AC outlet from the wall, so i made a smart switch, i used 5v line form the computer power supply to switch the AC line on, so the pump started automatically after starting a PC. My next 4 rigs were cooled by this solution... I remember a guy, who burried a big water tank 2 meters below the ground, and used it as a "heat pool". It was way over 1 ton of water, so it did not get heated even during a long gaming session. And cooled itself nicely during the breaks.
yea ordered bunch of fittings tunes plugs temprature sensor and etc couple week ago some arrived and they look good gonna put them in loop soon and check them out.
Yea not that nice.I ordered 2 identical blocks from the same place and second block came with this terrible quality compared to the first block(Screws was too big,it was scratched on the bottom...etc)
You guys should set up a test to run those pumps until they die to see how long they'll last. Yeah it's a small data set, but still interesting to know, especially if anyone really does intend to order the stuff
I ran two $3 aquarium pumps in series for redundancy, at 5V to reduce noise. They both failed, but it may be because I was using ethanol as a coolant and it doesn't play too well with plastic, I think the impeller got stuck causing a coil to burn out. I then switched to water and used a bigger no-name pump and it was fine, apart from being a bit noisy. I finally switched to a syscooling pump, that worked great for a while until it started making a horrendous noise. Somehow the inner bearing became loose, which is odd since it's just a plastic impeller sitting on what felt like a ceramic rod. Added a copper shim into the bearing and it was fine until I pulled the loop apart completely. In the beginning I was cooling an i3-6100 AND an R9 290 on the same loop with a single aluminium 120mm radiator in push-pull without hitting thermal limit. It was MUCH quieter than the reference 290 blower and performed similarly.
I miss the days when an aquarium pump and shit from Home Depot, with a waterblock designed by someone with zero thermodynamics knowledge, was just how it all worked. I'll never get the smell of WaterWetter off of my hands
Aliexpress has also some pretty sweet deals on computer parts. Also is one of the very few place with decent GPU pricing. Its amazing it far it has come in just 2 years.
It's actually a really good idea to use the EK blocks as a baseline. Despite being basically the most popular blocks around (especially in the TH-camr space), they are some of the most mediocre blocks in terms of performance, and give a pretty good picture of a perfectly "average" custom loop.
Honestly, Barrow makes my favorite fittings. Simple, minimalistic, cheap and I've never had a problem with them. They even look better than EK and Bitspower fittings, IMO.
biggest advantage of watercooling is the massive amount of "material" (water) to heat up. even when you would use no pump at all it would take very long to overheat because it takes a LOT of heat(energy) to heat up like 2 liters of water. radiator and fans are just used to dissipate heat.
Flat plate doesn't get bonus for surface area... but it gets boost on the sheer ammount of water that can go though it. That's why it's pretty bad in comparison, but still good enough to not overheat a 5960X.
You know, i was a fan of watercooling once but then... with the actual performance you get from modern air cooling. It is just not worth it. There's too much HAZZLE involved, not to mention all the dangers. Unless you're really into heavy overclocking, it is not worth it.
I've been using two of those china water pumps for 3 years (the big cylinder pump), and neither has failed in any way. more reliable than the other parts in fact
Well for one thing they probably pull a high current, and so could potentially fru your psu, so yeah. For another thing, they'd be pretty noisy. For another thing they probably aren't using mostly pure copper or nickel playing, so compatibility with different metal type loops would be nonexistent, unless you like corrosion.
Pumps from pre-heaters are between 1 and 10A/ 12-120W. noisy? around 50-65db. Most parts in the cooling system are made of pa6gf30 and aluminum. And in the end it's about the fun.
Bought mostly Bykski parts for my loop through AliExpress. Took like 2.5 months for everything to arrive because I ordered on 11.11 and everything got tied up in shipping. Ended up buying Hardware Labs' Black Ice radiators from Performance PCs because Ali's pricing plus shipping (11.11 pricing, not just everyday, plus no free shipping for the brass rads) matched the price of the Black Ice rads including their shipping. One advantage to AliExpress and Bykski/Barrow is the variety and availability of GPU water blocks. So much more than what big names like EK or Bitspower have available. I did have a defective Bykski D5 pump (ratings were good, I think it was just mine that was a dud). Ended up returning it (and have gotten my money back in a reasonable amount of time) and bought an EK pump from Micro Center since most of my loop was already built and I didn't want to go back and re-install my air cooling while I wait another 2 months for a replacement.
Byski and barrow are actually quite good products, the one block with the multi mount bracket is also pretty good, I have one on a 8 core unlocked Xeon overclocked to 4ghz for the past year with a cheap phoyba dc12 pump and no name 240 rad and it works great, the block was $19 on Amazon
I used car parts back in the day because I wanted to. What was inside of the computer was branded for computer cooling, but the radiator was an evaporator coil from a car and was put outside.
You CAN use mixed metals in setup - as soon this metals doesn't have electrical connection between them. It acts like a battery - you have two electrodes and electrolyte, but in order to run chemical reaction you have to connect both terminals with wire. I doubt that you can isolate waterblock from CPU, but you actually can isolate radiator from the case.
Been running a custom loop with two $10 aquarium pumps in series, a $15 cpu block and a couple aluminum rads and can even kinda render with my 8700k at 4.7GHz. It gets toasty, up into the 80s but doesn't throttle. This is my entry into custom water cooling and I was planning on going as cheap as I could then eventually upgrading to a decent waterblock.
International companies pay a private label to have their names put on products I can also pay a licensing fee to prevent products from entering the market for a period of time usually 48 months. Some company simply manufacture in China and don’t have to deal with this issue. FYI if you place an order before Chinese new years it’s going to take months for the shipment to be processed. I try to get orders in by the end of August so they are not held up until February
A decent chinese water cooling loop should be better for CPU overclocking than even the best air coolers. If you don't plan to overclock a lot then air is superior being easier, cheaper, safer.
i am running 8700K at 4,7Ghz all 6 cores and 1,28V and temps around 70°C with room temperature 30° with NH-D15S with 1 fan on it.... CPU is NOT delided
It was cheaper for me to replace my old 4c/8t CPU with a 6c/12t and overclock it as high as it can go on cheap water cooling than replacing my entire system with X99 or Ryzen. It would be the same even if DDR4 was not overpriced. On air I would be sitting at ~400MHz less which is a big deal for games that benefit from high single thread performance. Naturally you have no need to water cool a brand new high end 14nm CPU if you don't plan to set benchmark high scores. But of course most water cooling is done by snobs who can afford to throw 5k at a PC just for the lols and bragging rights while 99.9999% of the time they have no practical gains from it in their daily gaming where their GPUs choke on 4k resolution.
Regarding flat vs ridges ... iirc the problem there is having a stagnant surface layer, so naively more area does not necessarily mean that much more heat exchange if your design increases these surface layers.
Bykski is a very very very popular and a big water cooling brand in China, it’s even better known by Chinese than EK or thermaltake. U better get some research Linus.
I'm glad to hear this. I have found some stuff by them and I really like it I'm just worried about the quality as no one I talk to has ever heard of them
I had no idea! My next watercooling loop will be from Ali Express then. I totally planned a loop for my latest rig but wasnt willing to pay the price at a normal shop.
I have a full custom rigid tubing loop, all bought from aliexpress. It's been keeping my 1080 and 4770k cool for the past 9 months and it's working great. DISCLAIMER: I've only bought Barrow components, which are the best.
This. They're just rebranding from the same Chinese factories. Those 30 dollars ear plugs with the tiny aluminum can? You can the same ones out of Ebay for 2 dollars.
It would have been cool for y’all to have a stock cooler (not water cooled). Because cool people that don’t wanna pay the price for cool loops could see how it would compare to their not so cool stock cooler. Wouldn’t that be cool?
Been using the VTG 240 water cooler for 6 months. I7 7700k at 5ghz, 1.320 volt. Runs mint, keeps things cool. About 5 degrees hotter than a corsair h110, but less than half the price!
I buy a shit ton of stuff from Aliexpress and most stuff arrives in 2-3 weeks, if possible always select e-packet. And read the descriptions they are pretty good of explaining what you are getting. If you ever have an issue, you will get your money back.
You should do Scrap Yard Wars with Brett from UFD. He's really entertaining and would make a great partner. Super chat in it for if you have him. I love that guys videos. Please Please Please invite him.!!!!!
well the products are decent.. I got a EK PE240 Kit (had to pay import duty @50% of the cost). Then ordered barrow fittings and hardline tube and they are holding pretty good. I really liked the Barrow fittings. The product is well built and high quality (dual) O rings on fittings. Have been using for almost 5-6 months and not a single leak..
You can use your bodies... unused water, but it is (depending on your diet) acidic and will probably damage plastic-tubes within weeks Or you can hold your hand down on the cpu, that may actually work to some degree (pun intended)
I bought the cheapest ATX power supply on AliExpress. It didn't explicitly say what wattage it was (it was listed as 150W, 250W, and 400W on the same page), but I was able to stably run a roughly 200W system on it under synthetic load without issue. I did manage to blow it after bypassing the overcurrent protection during a test, but after a few repairs it has been nothing but reliable.
Always get motivated by watching your TH-cam video content and now building my first ever build. One thing I am just saving for and wish I could have as soon as I can afford one is a GPU.
Not mentioned in the video, but does anyone know about getting GPU water blocks for cheap? Even on AliExpress still seeming to be about $80+ a piece and I need to cool both of my 1070's. I know it will be more expensive than CPU cooling but I was hoping for around $20-30 per block so I can keep the whole loop as close to $100-150 as possible. Thanks for any help!
Shadowofdeath24 I already have the 1070’s, it would be impractical to buy a new card at this point. 111 111 I’ve seen some blocks that are labeled as gpu water locks but look really similar to cpu blocks. Is this what I would need for core only cooling? What about vrm’s?
USAF Steve buy gpu core only blocks, they're usually under 50-60$ and top performance. you will just need to get some simple heatsinks on vram and gpu, can salvage them from old gpus or motherboards or just cut with a saw from old non-heatpipe cpu heatsink.
You should probably also do a video on watercooling fittings as many people do not know the types of fittings used to watercool a pc and their various other combinations possible to use as well. btw this video is awesome :)
I'm old enough to remember when liquid cooling was garden pond pumps and heater cores from cars for radiators. There were homemade water blocks and things were...weird. Water cooling today is so much easier.
nice video indeed!! so many people want to have custom wc but they cheap out on components, having a dual tower with 140mm fans its the best and most failproof solution for that price range
You should run a long term test of the cheap one vs more expensive one to see how long the cheap stuff lasts.
Jarrod'sTech like the one year pressure test, except with the water cooling loop
i agree, 100000%, please do this!
Yes a long term test and enough AliExpress parts to assemble a PC from scratch.
I literally have the "nice" cpu block, and the white 360 rad for almost a year now, with 0 corrosion, and 0 visible problems. :D
Also to further support the claim that aliexpress watercooling isn't bad, I even have aliexpress fittings, pump and reservoir. All this in a hardline build.
I can assure you a lot of the r/watercooling community uses byski and barrow watercooling gear and I have not heard a single issue with it. I can even speak from experience. I've talked to them personally when I needed help and I can tell they aren't just some random goons trying to cheap off on watercooling parts, they really are enthusiast just like us.
Ian Peng barrow and byski are very good. The fittings are amazing. He just didn’t do any research. It took me only 10 days for shipping
Barrow worked fantastic for me for last 2 years.
I use Byski without any issue shipping was fast. But some minds think expensive stuff is better Byski and Barrow give you one years warranty
that end was gold.
13:20 The look of pure regret.
Dude, with that look it had to be the RED camera or something xD
The video is in 4k so it was definitely shot on the RED. I also don't think they really shoot on anything else other than the REDs, though I'm not 100% on that.
Oh lordy
Azuralis - lol what does this being in 4k on TH-cam have to do with anything? They also still shoot with the A7SII (which can do 4k) and all sorts of drones and GoPro's all of which can shoot 4k. Which doesn't even matter because an older 1080p camera can still just be upscaled to 4K for TH-cam anyway.
This is proof that a lot of watercooling parts are hella overpriced
Pretty much I mean I get economies of scale. Clearly there are few people doing custom loops in the grand scheme of things. Yes this often means they aren't able deploy super mass production techniques but the price of a basic loop these days from a company like EKWB for example can easily run you a grand like you could build a whole nother mid high end range pc for that kind of money. Just no way in hell a rad, some water blocks and a pump / res should cost anywhere near that. That you can find water pumps that are used in other applications for dirt cheap but for water cooling all of the sudden they are priced like they are space age technology that took a next generation fab to build which is nonsense. You can easily build a whole loop with a brand like byski or barrow and spend at least half if not less and get equal results.
EK nowadays costs a bomb.
Definitely. WIth Bykski and Barrow being more mainstream now in china, they are such good options for more affordable waterblocks and fittings. You save a good amount with pumps too, but probably better to go for one with warranty. Also I believe Bykski makes gpu waterblocks for almost every card out there, so if there is someone with that weird pcb card, bykski probably has it.
not to mention that a good $90 air cooler is about 20 times less hassle with similar performance. Unless RGB and gamer swag is worth the extra $200 + future maintenance
Its overpriced but because China labour cost is cheaper. However, I feel that there is more to the story than just the manufacturing cost.
I have all Barrow compression fitting in my loop for 3 years. Actually my entire loop was about 150$. It's flawless.
I just spent 150 on a looop I hope it works well
@@dirtyasianmafia2310 Hey, did it work well?
@@Tjocksnorriss thinking of doing the same thing. What's is x flow?
Dude your profile picture looks like a CPU block
@@Tjocksnorriss i ordered a 500$ custom water cooling kit from barrow.I cant wait to get it.I saw many reviews and opinions about barrow and everyone says barrow has a better quality products over bykski so buy barrow.I dont say that bykski is bad but buy barrow
Just use the closest river as a reservation and you only need a block, tubing and pump!
Tech Dunk illegal river blocking 10/10 👌
daniel flecha we used to live by a stream and the neighbor pumped out water for his horses and other animals. Very illegal but in the middle of nowhere it was a cool set up
Done! Any advices about how to get fish out of the loop? Have a smelly problem here. Need help.
Haaku use a filter. Like the ones in air conditioners
Condensation. Ever heard of it?
As a Chinese, I have to mention that the sellers on Aliexpress know that u guys are all foreigners so they make the prices much much much higher than they should be.
Yea but it's still really cheap compared to the big businesses
So what is the aliexpress of aliexpress? haha
@John Smith Well, China is Communism, not Capitalism. with communism everything they make goes to the government and the government distributes it out to everyone else. Or at least that is the way communism is supposed to work.
@@mythbuster74 That would be Tabao. Unlike AliExpress it is Chinese language only and you actually have to communicate directly with the seller.
@@bkpickell ... political scientist here (i know, it's a crappy diploma) but at least I have studied enough to tell you're wrong, you're saying the basic knowledge of communism and implication on government public politics, it doesn't work that way in China's communism. check wikipedia on "politics of china". I am no expert on China' studies (and I'm from Brazil) but it's been a while since the private sector in China is somewhat free to do business without the State intervention. So calm down when you talk about communism and capitalism. 2018 governments are totally different from the old fashion regime knowledge.
Hay Linus since you basically done every pc part from Ali express can you please do a all Ali express pc :)
Yeah this would be really interesting to see :)!
I agree, i'm from Europe and some things can arrive as quickly as in 2 weeks or even less even with free shipping, though they say it takes 20-50 days
yeaaa DO this linus ... thats my dream !! SINCE AWAYS i knew you someday will do THIS =D
Blackofnight yeah i'm from Europ too and it would be shipped whitin 20-50 days to me, but if he orders via express shipping he should get it quicker.
They did build a pc on China with Strange Parts, bad they found that its super hard to find like weird brands of PC parts
That shipping time has to be due to your customs, most orders are automatically closed after 2 months of not receiving anything and either getting your money back or resending it after notifying the seller and/or aliexpress.
Recently, I've been getting sub 1 week shipping times in EU, I'm really surprised (5 orders now, all in less than a week, they take 3 - 4 flights and the first flight from the bay area is usually just hours from posting the package, impressive).
@@Dowent Same in Israel, packages started arriving really fast.
When i converted from soft to hard tubing i used some barrow fittings and was pleasantly surprised at the quality .
I've been using Barrow for a long while now and have ZERO issues. It's half the price and after building 10-12 client systems using their hardware, I've realized it's the exact same manufacturer as BitsPower. YOU SHOULD BE USING BARROW!!!!
Christopher McCabe i ordered like $100 of Barrow fitting, what it should be like $300 of bitspower ones, im just waiting to they arrive to compare them with the bitspower
Really surprised they didnt get barrow gear. But i guess they dont fit their either stupid expensive or stupid cheap product content. They are very reasonably priced, are decent quality and perform fantastically.
I got a broken pump. 10/10 can confirm, they dont *suck* .
Kyle Li they swallow?
Lol.
underrated
This is simultaneously the dumbest and greatest thing I have read today
@@seto635 lol
Barrow actually makes pretty good liquidcooling parts. Their fittings are used by many people, with a lot of coverage on different tech forums. I've decided to build almost full loop using Barrow parts: CPU block, fittings, their "D5" pump, res, tools etc. Only things not from Barrow were radiator (full copper one added to much weight to package, so I've bought one locally), GPU block (bought EVGA 1080Ti Hydro edition), tubing and fluid. Since my order was a big one I've got a nice discount from seller and DHL shipping for $15 to EU. Whole process from processing order to shipping, customs and delivery took about 3-4 weeks with shipping alone done in 4 days. Latest CPU blocks from Barrow are really not that bad - ones with a higher channel density. During tests there were maybe 2C difference between EK Supremacy. I'm very happy with my purchase and performance. Price vise whole order with DHL shipping and customs tax included was about 50-60% of the price for the same parts from a mid-range EU/US company and about 1/3rd of the high-end one. So that kind of savings for a negligible performance difference is totally worth it in my opinion.
CoreyPL exactly,I'm using Barrow's fittings due to it has 4 o-rings that makes me feel more reassured.
In fact I am using Barrow's TR4 block with coolant temp display, works pretty well so far.
Oh and also the Bykski TR4 block actually easily out-preformed the older EK version, as tested on HardOCP.
I Agree Adrian. I'm using Barrow LTFHB-02N 115X RGB - it's their latest revision CPU block with 0.2mm channels and it really performs like EK Supremacy for half a price. RGB lighting is compatible with my Gigabyte board so I can use Fusion software to sync all the effects.
I've been running Barrow hardline tube fittings for over 2 years now, no complaints at all!!
Actually ordered a complete loop back in 2016 with copper rad, pump, hardtubing, res and fittings.. And it was darn fine for the price.. The fittings especially. Had triple rubber rings inside, plus additional rubber rings included.. It was tight and worked perfectly. And I have worked with ekwb, Alphacool and xspc before, so I do have something to compare it to.
So close to the 13:37
we only need nine more likes on this comment
13:38 one step ahead ;)
Pretty sure 1337 is a stale meme by now....
l33t
error 404 camera has stop recording ----- LINUS wat you done
I have a Bykski waterblock because they're the only people who make a block for the Gigabyte GTX 1070/1080 Mini versions. And it's awesome. It looks great and even has a (definitely illegal) Gigabyte logo on it.
Well my chinese Jonsbo air cooling keeps my i7 4790 at 40 degress Celsius even under stress testing for 30 minutes. 30€. I think I did not need a much more expensive product do I ? x)
I have Bykski block for my Xfx RX 480 only company that makes it, its a great waterblock.
Did the same for my Zotac 1080 ti mini got a Bykski block and it looks legit haven’t tested it yet tho.
i am looking you about two months and all I have seen of your videos is NOTHING clickbait or kind of... (I can´t speak so good english because i´m from Austria, you know) Best YTber of alll times!
If you shop on aliexpress for custom parts then look for BARROW brand. They are pretty much the same manufacturers of bitspower. Great quality.
How about bykyski
@@Kdjoao Bykski is good too.
Can confirm, I had some xspc 90 degree rotary fittings, they started leaking about 1 week after building the pc, replaced with Barrow ones, superb quality.
I remember building watercooled rig back in 1999. Jeez, it was almost 20 years ago... Anyway, i had a friend who had access to the milling machine (just analog, CNC wasn't that popular in those days) and he knew how to use it.
I new smth about welding copper, and together we made 3 blocks for CPUs.
We were using aquarium pumps. And car radiators from the scrapyard - in fact, my radiator was from the heating loop, the smaller one that heats the air pumped into the car.
Custom made water reservoir (from a lunch box ;-)).
Of course, the pump was running on AC outlet from the wall, so i made a smart switch, i used 5v line form the computer power supply to switch the AC line on, so the pump started automatically after starting a PC.
My next 4 rigs were cooled by this solution...
I remember a guy, who burried a big water tank 2 meters below the ground, and used it as a "heat pool". It was way over 1 ton of water, so it did not get heated even during a long gaming session. And cooled itself nicely during the breaks.
I believe LED can boost performance!
I believe rainbows improve my physical health.
stay woke
Tested and proven.
Yeah it's make cooler.
+The Gaming Titan but they do
Barrow products are actually pretty nice
yea ordered bunch of fittings tunes plugs temprature sensor and etc couple week ago some arrived and they look good gonna put them in loop soon and check them out.
Yup. Barrow is Bitspower's "cheaper" brand.
My block and fittings arrived this week and they seem to be of decent quality. Waiting on my rad and pump
Yea not that nice.I ordered 2 identical blocks from the same place and second block came with this terrible quality compared to the first block(Screws was too big,it was scratched on the bottom...etc)
If you find their official store lol
You guys should set up a test to run those pumps until they die to see how long they'll last. Yeah it's a small data set, but still interesting to know, especially if anyone really does intend to order the stuff
aquarium pumps stall, you have to buy a new one each six months,so i made my own.
I run a cheap byksyki pump for 6 month. Still holding up
I ran two $3 aquarium pumps in series for redundancy, at 5V to reduce noise. They both failed, but it may be because I was using ethanol as a coolant and it doesn't play too well with plastic, I think the impeller got stuck causing a coil to burn out. I then switched to water and used a bigger no-name pump and it was fine, apart from being a bit noisy. I finally switched to a syscooling pump, that worked great for a while until it started making a horrendous noise. Somehow the inner bearing became loose, which is odd since it's just a plastic impeller sitting on what felt like a ceramic rod. Added a copper shim into the bearing and it was fine until I pulled the loop apart completely.
In the beginning I was cooling an i3-6100 AND an R9 290 on the same loop with a single aluminium 120mm radiator in push-pull without hitting thermal limit. It was MUCH quieter than the reference 290 blower and performed similarly.
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Hi. fellow nine-year-old
I've just turned 10 so I don't know what you guys are talking about
i was shocked for that refrence
I just turned 10😂
Came here from Thunderf00t's food scanner "busted" vid.... More tech review, linustechtips? Haha
I miss the days when an aquarium pump and shit from Home Depot, with a waterblock designed by someone with zero thermodynamics knowledge, was just how it all worked.
I'll never get the smell of WaterWetter off of my hands
That's what I'm gonna do in like two weeks :D
Aliexpress has also some pretty sweet deals on computer parts. Also is one of the very few place with decent GPU pricing. Its amazing it far it has come in just 2 years.
Yup, Aliexpress is pretty legit. They also take customer service very seriously, i.e. shady sellers get banned from their site.
Azin yep
Linus can you try out ssds from aliexpress like the kingspec ones.
Please :3
Aren't they just SD cards in an SSD case?
sure thing, you'll see it next year around this time ;)
Polarwolf91 Noice
Find some reviews for SSDs from 10 years ago and you'll get what you want :D
Friend got a kingspec m.2 off ebay, runs full sata speed spec. not bad for hella cheap
It's actually a really good idea to use the EK blocks as a baseline. Despite being basically the most popular blocks around (especially in the TH-camr space), they are some of the most mediocre blocks in terms of performance, and give a pretty good picture of a perfectly "average" custom loop.
Honestly, Barrow makes my favorite fittings. Simple, minimalistic, cheap and I've never had a problem with them. They even look better than EK and Bitspower fittings, IMO.
how does the flat plate water block compare to just regular air cooling?
biggest advantage of watercooling is the massive amount of "material" (water) to heat up. even when you would use no pump at all it would take very long to overheat because it takes a LOT of heat(energy) to heat up like 2 liters of water. radiator and fans are just used to dissipate heat.
Flat plate doesn't get bonus for surface area... but it gets boost on the sheer ammount of water that can go though it. That's why it's pretty bad in comparison, but still good enough to not overheat a 5960X.
compared to stock better, compared to any decent 30€ one, not so much
not sure if you ever seen a pump fail, but it doesn't take long for the water to heat up unless your loop is hooked up to your bathtub lol
You know, i was a fan of watercooling once but then... with the actual performance you get from modern air cooling. It is just not worth it. There's too much HAZZLE involved, not to mention all the dangers. Unless you're really into heavy overclocking, it is not worth it.
Build a pc with aliexpress / wish parts only
Young Entrepreneur ok
i built a PC with aliexpress parts and it turned out the same as an original part PC.
Young Entrepreneur
Not really. Wish is just crap
jup, it's aliexpress for people who can't look up cheap stuff.
Nielsjan9 yes please, that would be mind blowing if it actually works
I've been using two of those china water pumps for 3 years (the big cylinder pump), and neither has failed in any way. more reliable than the other parts in fact
@@Tjocksnorriss mine is unbranded, but looks pretty much the same. Still no problems
Try parts from the automotive industry. The coolers are big enough and the electric pumps are running at 12V. What can go wrong?
Well for one thing they probably pull a high current, and so could potentially fru your psu, so yeah. For another thing, they'd be pretty noisy. For another thing they probably aren't using mostly pure copper or nickel playing, so compatibility with different metal type loops would be nonexistent, unless you like corrosion.
Pumps from pre-heaters are between 1 and 10A/ 12-120W. noisy? around 50-65db. Most parts in the cooling system are made of pa6gf30 and aluminum.
And in the end it's about the fun.
Hey it's your system bud. Go wild if you want to.
Bought mostly Bykski parts for my loop through AliExpress. Took like 2.5 months for everything to arrive because I ordered on 11.11 and everything got tied up in shipping. Ended up buying Hardware Labs' Black Ice radiators from Performance PCs because Ali's pricing plus shipping (11.11 pricing, not just everyday, plus no free shipping for the brass rads) matched the price of the Black Ice rads including their shipping.
One advantage to AliExpress and Bykski/Barrow is the variety and availability of GPU water blocks. So much more than what big names like EK or Bitspower have available.
I did have a defective Bykski D5 pump (ratings were good, I think it was just mine that was a dud). Ended up returning it (and have gotten my money back in a reasonable amount of time) and bought an EK pump from Micro Center since most of my loop was already built and I didn't want to go back and re-install my air cooling while I wait another 2 months for a replacement.
Byski and barrow are actually quite good products, the one block with the multi mount bracket is also pretty good, I have one on a 8 core unlocked Xeon overclocked to 4ghz for the past year with a cheap phoyba dc12 pump and no name 240 rad and it works great, the block was $19 on Amazon
Barrow, Bykski are actually just as good as anything available state side.
Barrow user, me, agrees
Damn shots fired at the end. You gonna take that from a mac user?
She shot at herself. We should leave juggling to mac users because their equipment is worthless.
@@Guilherme-sc2xv No, because they are clowns, get it right, pleb
@@georgewong2290 Owned in Owned fashion.
4:28 oh my! Luke's best review so far 😂😂😂
@4:29 cutting in luke's first unboxing definitely gets a like
I used car parts back in the day because I wanted to. What was inside of the computer was branded for computer cooling, but the radiator was an evaporator coil from a car and was put outside.
Now that's a cooler I don't need for my editing.
I don’t watch you
or you'll need to edit yourself a new computer after it busts water all over your system :)
well actually bykski and barrow is quite good and the barrow fittings are actually good as the bitspower fittings
Did you just hit the RED Camera?😋
Shame 😂
Did you just use Crappy Emojis? :P
Shame ;'D
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xD, thank you. Season 9 is coming!!! Or should I say Winter is Coming
Oh yeah, fail. Sorry ;o
Sooo.... is the camera okay?
Barrow is widely used in Asia and it is also built by the OEM who manufactures BitsPower watercooling gears.
You CAN use mixed metals in setup - as soon this metals doesn't have electrical connection between them. It acts like a battery - you have two electrodes and electrolyte, but in order to run chemical reaction you have to connect both terminals with wire. I doubt that you can isolate waterblock from CPU, but you actually can isolate radiator from the case.
AliExpress is like the Poor Man's PC Mega shop.
Deon Spates Should I buy a Kingston Ssd from Aliexpress?
Sooo.Are they worth it?
Yes some parts worth it
But what if I want to buy some nike shoes
Andrei Săcăluş made by child labor just like real Nike shoes.
This video was too short to discuss all of the topics about cheap watercooling. Please make part 2
two brands I have got from them are . barrow and bykski and have them in a mod . never had a problem with them leaking we did a hard line mod .
me use Bykski and love'm
Been running a custom loop with two $10 aquarium pumps in series, a $15 cpu block and a couple aluminum rads and can even kinda render with my 8700k at 4.7GHz. It gets toasty, up into the 80s but doesn't throttle. This is my entry into custom water cooling and I was planning on going as cheap as I could then eventually upgrading to a decent waterblock.
These videos always make my day but every now and then something unexpected happens and I just crack up - like this one.
Linus juggling.
What's the worst that could happen? Lol
well, we could find how much RED charges for replacement parts. Wonder if it's more then Apple?
a water block like that wouldn't do anything to the camera body itself, it would be more likely to scratch the lens.
@@thaBigGENERAL And RED lenses are cheap?
ali a express
DUN DUN DUN DUN
No.
ali g*
ALI G IN DA HOUSE
Finally something I can afford 👍
Experience China 🇨🇳 you should be happy that you live in china shipping doesn't take much time
8:41 I haven't ridden the SkyTrain in like 18 years, and I recognized the door-closing chime in the background XD
This was actually much more informative and interesting then I expected keep it up and I love that ending even though I don't like mac
That Bykski brand reminds me of Roccat logo 😁
I use Bykski for my cpu and gpu. awesome
Who's the 9-year-old working at LMG?
Haha lol XD lmao
holy shit, who thought the basic laws of thermodynamics would STILL hold up!?
haha
I was literally considering ali express to buy water cooling and this video comes up. Thanks!
International companies pay a private label to have their names put on products I can also pay a licensing fee to prevent products from entering the market for a period of time usually 48 months. Some company simply manufacture in China and don’t have to deal with this issue. FYI if you place an order before Chinese new years it’s going to take months for the shipment to be processed. I try to get orders in by the end of August so they are not held up until February
0:48 “Tech👏Review👏” Someone really likes pewdiepie at LMG
Oh, so that's what is was about. Thanks for the reference.
I've seen Luke wear Pewds merch on Wan Show
Martinike th-cam.com/video/kQQTo1WxQk4/w-d-xo.html this isn't exactly merch, but I think he was wearing Tsuki, Pewds and Marzia's clothing brand
The iJustine cameo was terrific. XD
Now the question is: cheap water cooling or proper air cooling?
A decent chinese water cooling loop should be better for CPU overclocking than even the best air coolers. If you don't plan to overclock a lot then air is superior being easier, cheaper, safer.
Miguel Angel Vazquez I say if ur a beginner dont go with water do air.
i am running 8700K at 4,7Ghz all 6 cores and 1,28V and temps around 70°C with room temperature 30° with NH-D15S with 1 fan on it.... CPU is NOT delided
It was cheaper for me to replace my old 4c/8t CPU with a 6c/12t and overclock it as high as it can go on cheap water cooling than replacing my entire system with X99 or Ryzen. It would be the same even if DDR4 was not overpriced.
On air I would be sitting at ~400MHz less which is a big deal for games that benefit from high single thread performance.
Naturally you have no need to water cool a brand new high end 14nm CPU if you don't plan to set benchmark high scores. But of course most water cooling is done by snobs who can afford to throw 5k at a PC just for the lols and bragging rights while 99.9999% of the time they have no practical gains from it in their daily gaming where their GPUs choke on 4k resolution.
Barrow compression fittings are amazing. They are Bitspower mimics. Barrow is HUGE in China and are VERY good.
Regarding flat vs ridges ... iirc the problem there is having a stagnant surface layer, so naively more area does not necessarily mean that much more heat exchange if your design increases these surface layers.
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ok pewds
This tech is now dead. F
Bykski is a very very very popular and a big water cooling brand in China, it’s even better known by Chinese than EK or thermaltake. U better get some research Linus.
I'm glad to hear this. I have found some stuff by them and I really like it I'm just worried about the quality as no one I talk to has ever heard of them
王潇洋 I agree with this. Been using bykski and they work perfectly.
Nice pewdiepie reference
I'm 10 so I don't know who this pewdyepy person is
Sazid Hossain, pretty good, just turned 18 yrs old
I had no idea! My next watercooling loop will be from Ali Express then. I totally planned a loop for my latest rig but wasnt willing to pay the price at a normal shop.
I have a full custom rigid tubing loop, all bought from aliexpress. It's been keeping my 1080 and 4770k cool for the past 9 months and it's working great.
DISCLAIMER: I've only bought Barrow components, which are the best.
8:09 is that really dried thermal paste? I expected better of you
"surprisingly looks pretty legit"
As if all the "name brands" aren't just made in the same factories and just have their logos CNC'd on.
This. They're just rebranding from the same Chinese factories.
Those 30 dollars ear plugs with the tiny aluminum can? You can the same ones out of Ebay for 2 dollars.
It would have been cool for y’all to have a stock cooler (not water cooled). Because cool people that don’t wanna pay the price for cool loops could see how it would compare to their not so cool stock cooler. Wouldn’t that be cool?
Cool.
A longevity / Reliability test would be great on loops like those.
Been using the VTG 240 water cooler for 6 months. I7 7700k at 5ghz, 1.320 volt. Runs mint, keeps things cool. About 5 degrees hotter than a corsair h110, but less than half the price!
Omg that clip of Luke 🤣🤣🤣 Hahaha haha omg that was hilarious I can't stop laughing
13:30 Ijustine on Watercooling video. Now iw seen all :D
Nope it have not evolved. Mainstream brands are just overpriced.
I buy a shit ton of stuff from Aliexpress and most stuff arrives in 2-3 weeks, if possible always select e-packet. And read the descriptions they are pretty good of explaining what you are getting. If you ever have an issue, you will get your money back.
I can vouche for fittings from Barrow. Cheap and good quality. Ordered fittings for around $50 and it arrived within 2 weeks from AliExpress
I watched this video on a phone so take that RED. Also nice meme
You should do Scrap Yard Wars with Brett from UFD. He's really entertaining and would make a great partner. Super chat in it for if you have him. I love that guys videos. Please Please Please invite him.!!!!!
Damn that pump sucks!!
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FIREFLY yes, it does only 8 damage
FIREFLY a
I remember the robot vacuum review...
I think...I think my brain just imploded.
The Gaming Titan was the pressure too low from all the sucktion?
well the products are decent.. I got a EK PE240 Kit (had to pay import duty @50% of the cost). Then ordered barrow fittings and hardline tube and they are holding pretty good. I really liked the Barrow fittings. The product is well built and high quality (dual) O rings on fittings. Have been using for almost 5-6 months and not a single leak..
That Luke clip at 4:27 is hilarious!
But what if water is expensive and we have to use our bodies to watercool since the human body contains 70% water???
it would be 70% as effectif
You can use your bodies... unused water, but it is (depending on your diet) acidic and will probably damage plastic-tubes within weeks
Or you can hold your hand down on the cpu, that may actually work to some degree (pun intended)
Fat Boo Chinese blood cooling vs Taiwanese blood cooling
Just lean on the cpu. Thats blood cooling. Your body will dissipate the heath
you could call your brand dune cooling
Stealing meme👏 review👏 the subtle way. Loved it 👌🏻
how's tunnelbear doing
Fat Boo wtf
TunnelBear went to the earth's core in the year 6969, and was forgotten about since 2018
Fat Boo well done
I bought the cheapest ATX power supply on AliExpress. It didn't explicitly say what wattage it was (it was listed as 150W, 250W, and 400W on the same page), but I was able to stably run a roughly 200W system on it under synthetic load without issue. I did manage to blow it after bypassing the overcurrent protection during a test, but after a few repairs it has been nothing but reliable.
Always get motivated by watching your TH-cam video content and now building my first ever build. One thing I am just saving for and wish I could have as soon as I can afford one is a GPU.
Time to water cool my Pentium 3
Not mentioned in the video, but does anyone know about getting GPU water blocks for cheap? Even on AliExpress still seeming to be about $80+ a piece and I need to cool both of my 1070's. I know it will be more expensive than CPU cooling but I was hoping for around $20-30 per block so I can keep the whole loop as close to $100-150 as possible. Thanks for any help!
not really possible as they have to be made on a cnc which adds costs and loss
Only water cool the cores
Just buy a 980ti hybrid. They beat 1070s OC'd
Shadowofdeath24 I already have the 1070’s, it would be impractical to buy a new card at this point.
111 111 I’ve seen some blocks that are labeled as gpu water locks but look really similar to cpu blocks. Is this what I would need for core only cooling? What about vrm’s?
USAF Steve buy gpu core only blocks, they're usually under 50-60$ and top performance. you will just need to get some simple heatsinks on vram and gpu, can salvage them from old gpus or motherboards or just cut with a saw from old non-heatpipe cpu heatsink.
I run my dog to the ground, and they I use his panting to cool my CPU
Barrow is one of top of the lines here at PH for water cooling stuff..
You should probably also do a video on watercooling fittings as many people do not know the types of fittings used to watercool a pc and their various other combinations possible to use as well. btw this video is awesome :)
13:30 iJustine
China given us so much joy, what we'll be without them. "So little money so much fun" who care if it work! 5 bucks coffee
China gives us EVERYTHING! even the precious "All-American Iphones" are made in China.
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Wing Chester no u
I'm old enough to remember when liquid cooling was garden pond pumps and heater cores from cars for radiators. There were homemade water blocks and things were...weird. Water cooling today is so much easier.
nice video indeed!! so many people want to have custom wc but they cheap out on components, having a dual tower with 140mm fans its the best and most failproof solution for that price range