You two are a blessing! I used to criticize and judge you because i lived in fear. I believe God has saved me. I watched when WB prayed for the little girl who died of lukiemia. That was it for me. Branham wanted the focus to be on him not Christ. Why ask if she believed in him Instead of Jesus Christ?He also prayed in the name of the bible and an angel instead of our Lord Jesus Christ. After watching its like that fear left me and i said no William Branham was a false prophet with no fear this time. I sent it to my mother who's still in the message and tried to draw her attention to it and she told me to leave her alone and not talk about her prophet. God be merciful on William Branham for destroying families with his own interpretation of the bible. For the first time i do not panic when i state the truth.
@@brothercalebI left over a decade ago, but I was totally free few days ago because I lived in so much fear even after I left. I even went back to visit the church few times and still watched William Branham's videos out of fear. I believe if William Branham didn't repent before his demise he's in hell. He's destroyed too many lives and families and made many people mentally unstable. He's a liar who lied and deceived many just as his son Billy Paul who claimed he saw his dad welcoming him before his demise. Seeing a dead person in your dream is a familiar spirit. So maybe they are both in hell. God have mercy on their souls
@@brothercalebthese two men who have exposed this false prophet should continue to lean on our Lord Jesus Christ and I know when the Lord returns they'll have a special crown in heaven. God bless them
It's sad how many don't understand why Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour said, the whole world will be deceived Even the elect if possible Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour continues to expose everything that is not of Him Thankful for true Brothers & sisters that have been through the same trials and tribulations, perfect love cast out fear Not the weak, poor, fatherless, widows
I preached oneday that the seals were not opened by Brother Branham, and I was called in. I did not back down. I stood my ground. When they said It was only the Lord Jesus, Solomon and Brother Branham that had the gift of discernment. I took then to 1 Corinthians 12. I did not have a choice but to leave, but many will not admit that I taught them certain things by the grace of God. Things that they have incorporated into the message today. I was wrong in past teachings, and i regret it, and I am sorry for that before God and the people that I ministered until they were convinced that Brother Branham was Malachi 4. Yet through that, as I was preaching, many things opened up, and they got me introuble. Jesus Christ is the only solution. I took what I took and left what I left. I just had tonseperate with the lies. 2017, I left Mercy Lord
After I joined this cult in 2006, I got very sick and lost all of my health. Feeding tube, surgery after surgery, was told I would be sick the rest of my life. After I left in 2017 I started healing and got my feeding tube out in 2018. I was 98 lbs starving to death literally. I’m pretty healthy now, can walk, eat, ride bikes, vacation and I love life. It’s abuse and we’re living proof!
I'm so glad you are healthy and free of the bondage of being in the cult!! I wouldn't be surprised if the cult was making you sick, or at least making it worse.
I can assure you you were not sick because of the Word of God/ The message of the hour you were sick because of some defect in your system and you were not healing because you decided to leave but rather because that was the time of your healing or the time medicine started to kick in your system I’m happy you are enjoying the benefits of the sufferings of The Lord Jesus who suffered so you could be free . I’m sorry that you felt/ experienced abuse I’m just wondering what you mean by abuse cause other people calls correction and the straightness of the Word of God abuse.
My last day in church was horrible I felt like something is shaking my heart like my heart would be ripped The following Sunday I went to different messages church and up with same horrible experience Made me realize that message must be really demonic And just to inform all of you who are still in the message Few months after living message I went to some local church hosting some prophetic event And please believe me all of you I end up with same horrible heart palpitations Painful Hardly could drive my car back home When got home my wife prayed over me and immediately I went to bed thinking that I’ll never wake up So not only message churches has this demonic anointing
You are so right, there are so many more. Some people can not discern the difference in the spirit, some can! That's why we must pray for discernment. It is very important to have it. I myself have been to several. I will not stay in a church that has a demonic spirit, or says one thing and does another, churches in this day and time NEEDS to be exposed, so the people will know the difference and turn them or leave the church.
Leaving the church is the great falling away that Paul spoke of. Grow up, put your big boy pants on, find a church that preaches sound Biblical doctrine, and tell other people about Jesus.
Message is just one of many false cults and churches but many are related, have the same origin of denying biblical truth and bringing "destructive heresies" (says the Bible). Bethel, Hillsong ("Hellsong"), Kenneth Copeland, Duplantis, C P Wagner, Creflo Dollar, all NAR/word of faith/prosperity gospel, Jehovahs Witness, Mormons, SDA. Thankfully we have channels like this, "messed up Church", "Fighting for the Faith", "Long for truth", "justandsinner" and others to expose the lies of the devil and his Puppets like Branham, and to point us to biblical truth
Believe the sign used to promote branham and the message, ironically when in 2012, God starting to open the eye's of a lot honest branham preacher's, they quit , all of them minister's said, starting from the cloud which never existed they couldn't lie to their congregation anymore, God has convicted and so John Collins, they used the same platform believe the sign to expose branham message and his lies in due course.
To all message believers the question you should be asking John or actually you should be asking that question the voice of God recordings and Branham family why don’t they take John to court for personal slander of William Branham? And I’m gonna tell you why they don’t wanna do it because what John 😇 is saying actually is the truth about William Branham
I asked the same question a thousand times. They have a lot of money , and they have powerful lawyers who are branhamist. They know deep down believe the sign is telling the truth
Here is the answer, because that is not how he taught them to deal with adversity they know better than that, secondly scripture says “Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?” As much as these brethren bash/ exposing the Prophet as they call it they are still considered brothers because they’re still professing Christianity now as for the consequences whether punishment or reward that’s God call. The saints will conclude that when they are judging the earth whoever they are whether they are message believers or Christian denominations we shall know.
A dead man cannot defence himself, and when WB was alive on the scene, they know better not to accuse him. Anyway if the Message is the true, then the God of WB will defence His Word and His anointed.
@Royaleagle-qi5xc Even if he was alive people, wouldn't be scared to expose branham and his false doctrine . All the false doctrines have been exposed , 7th day adventist, jehovah witness, prosperity gospel and so on. He will curse these brothers, nothing will happen God has spoken in deuteronomy 18 regarding false prophet like branham
@@Dapublicsquare22 Let’s us start from the beginning, “WMB officially was prosecuted for his Kentucky accent” do we have to bring someone to court for challenging this lie ? Or we can just listen to tapes to realize WMB did not have KY accent ????? Then why he made up all of this nonsense????
This is exactly how confused and screwed up message of Wiliams branham is he said so many times it doesn’t matter to watch church you go to as long as you have personal relationship with Christ another same time he was saying that everybody else is wrong only he’s right don’t go nowhere else everybody else it’s under the curse, and under the spell of demons who are possessed with demons
There are so many more pastors and preacher that needs to be disposed, but people are so scared to expose them or they are satisfied with the pastor doing sinful things and saying stupid stuff that doesn't exist or just simply crazy. SO the church does it to. I don't understand the churches why they don't speak the truth. There will be so many life's on their hands on the day of JUDGMENT!
Thank you John. I have been watching the ones about Hobart Freeman as especially relevant to myself, I was one of those who asked about your motives and perspective in a private message. It wasn't a hostile question on my part but why you are doing this is still legitimate.
John Collins, when are you going to expose the viewing audience, to some more flying pyramid cartoon??? That is what I am waiting for, maybe staring my favorite character from (Parson's group) Brother brown hat- black beard??
Can anyone give a list of prophecies that William Branham made that proved to be false? I’m trying to collect this type of information to write an article exposing any false prophecies, given by William Branham. Any help is appreciated.
Your research is so valuable because it not only brings out the truth about The Message, but also reveals patterns of how the doctrines create the same types of behaviors in other religious movements.
I thank God for the prophet william Branham through his ministry i got healed i had cancer our God will nenever fail us he is faithfull full of love and mercy
If so, God healed you because he chose too. It's not one man's ministry that is responsible. God gave his mercy where it was needed. Why don't you give praise to God instead of a manipulative lunatic.
1 John 4:1-6 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Romans 16:18 - For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Mark 7:6-9 - He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 - But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 2 Timothy 4:3 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 1 Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Christians who also believe that william brennan was a true prophet and miracle worker. They believe he was Eliah or had the spitit of Eliah some even tought he was Jesus if i am correct. The doctrine they teach seems to be corrupted. Things like serpent seed doctrine and so. They are also marked as a sekt or cult.
Jesus had people who did not believe in Him. They crucified Him because of it. Paul was revealed the doctrine that he wrote in the New Testament. He never claimed to be the Messiah
That's interesting, friend! Since most of the faults began with "Thus Saith the Lord", dies this mean that you are saying that you can find fault with God? ... that's why we left. It was a different "god".
This is exactly what my brother, who is in the cult, says. He gets in rage when I point him to Jesus and deny Branham. He says, " by their fruits, you shall know them," all while he is twitching and yelling that I'm playing with fire and need to stop watching John. It brakes my heart that he could be spreading the gospel yet he chooses to believe he is holier-than-thou.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
@cyrilvantory Crazy misapplication of that verse, which is often used by other cults as well. The reality is that Branhamism represents an "exodus" from all forms of true Christianity, in favor of a cult that is itself internally divided and dysfunctional, worse than all the denominations, and worse than most other cults. Every time a Branhamite leaves his or her Message church, the pastor starts quoting that verse in solemn tones as a warning to everyone else. It's so dumb. The verse is referring to true Christianity. Those who leave true Christianity for a pseudo-Christian cult could more accurately be considered the ones "going out from us."
I’ve realized the great majority of people denounced and left/ leaving the message due to a prolonged resentment they hold either towards parents or message leaders who misrepresented, misinterpreted or misplaced the intentions and objectives the Prophet was trying to get across you see these things when you visit homes and churches the personal force that is used to impose on children and church members is astonishing and absolutely not under the influence of the principles and Spirit that led Bro Branham that is why it’s not wise to settle in a church simply because they say they believe the prophet but rather do you due diligence take time to ask God if you should make it your church home that is actually what bro Branham teaches.
Got questions for you: Why did he change the vision of 5 angels (that he was very sure of) to 7 angels? Why did he say he under the supposedly supernatural cloud whereas he wasn't? He even said he was not there but later changed and said he was there?
Why did he say he pray for people using the three letter word that's not even in the Bible? Where did he learn that magic word, because it's not in the scriptures?
@@Dapublicsquare22 I thought you know the message. Why do you want quotes from me whereas you should know what I'm asking you about? I think you should ask your pastor/elder. They know exactly what I'm talking about
I’ve met up with more than a few bad apples around this message, still don’t know why you all keep calling it a cult, met up with many who are cultish, William Branham wasn’t, never once did he try entrapping anybody, don’t get why you all hate on Branham. He isn’t the problem for fanaticism, that’s on the people. I’ve met a terrible preacher in Saskatoon Saskatchewan and 2 in Cloverdale BC, as bad as they are and I know it, nobody ever will convince me Branham is the problem. That’s on weak men, weak men create difficult times,
Got questions for you: Why did he change the vision of 5 angels (that he was very sure of) to 7 angels? Why did he say he under the supposedly supernatural cloud whereas he wasn't? He even said he was not there but later changed and said he was there?
Why did he say he pray for people using the three letter word that's not even in the Bible? Where did he learn that magic word, because it's not in the scriptures?
@@Dino-ns9jx Not sure, but I don't worry about these things. We have all given accounts of events in which we remember things differently. Times later remembering a detail we can hardly believe we forgot or left out. William Branham was human like the rest of us. Calling him a cult leader when he never hurt a soul is insanity!
@@mackenzieartz338 Lol, way too funny, not the case here, I walked away back in 2000ish, 1, 2, because of a creepy pastor in this message. I never lay the blame on William Branham and I most certainly would not be slamming him like these guys and others like him are. These guys are on dangerous ground, causing many to stumble. I would not want blood of many upon my hands, be better they had just walked away,
Hey we appreciate hearing from people who grew up in in Jeffersonville in Branham’s cult who are willing to tell the truth about this dangerous cult activity that did incredible damage to the old Pentecostal and post-WWII Charismatics. You’re not alone.
I've always wondered why people are so critical of Bro. William Branham. They doubt him. They say he was a fake prophet. Now read this; Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. Matthew:28:16 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. Mark the part "Some doubted". Here we find that some disciples, I repeat, disciples of Jesus, after being with him for three years during his ministry, after seeing all the miracles he did, after witnessing him rise from the dead, some disciples still DOUBTED. This tells me why all of you don't want to believe Bro. Branham. If some disciples still DOUBTED Jesus after everything He did, I wouldn't be surprised to see a normal human being doubt God's prophet. Doubting men of God started way back. Its not new. But one thing we can be sure about is that, God has never been on a losing side. In addition read this; For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2 Timothy:4:3 It was already said in the Bible that some would not "endure sound doctrine". Again, I'm not surprised that some have left the message because they don't find Bro. Branham's teaching as sound. Well it was already written in the Bible about such people. In conclusion, Jesus told his disciples to eat his body and drink his blood, many left him, they couldn't understand him. God doesn't operate in majority and never will. 2 million Israelites came out of Egypt, on very very few entered the promised land. God Bless You.
The reason that analogy doesn't work is because Jesus is scriptural and WMB wasn't. How many people died on the bridge? 16 men did not fall in the water and die. 2 men fell from an upper level to a lower level and died. 9ne out of MA y failed prophesy. Read Deuteronomy 18 to find out what God thinks of men who make false/failed prophesies in His name.
@@brothercalebMisunderstood. I'm just taking the context that we can't have each and everyone believing the prophet. Doubters will always be there, unfortunately, you're on that side. Let me ask you, do you see any preacher who comes close to Bro. Branham in terms of message he preached? Tell me one person, who does not believe what Bro. Branham taught, who has never been in the message but on his own had or has a ministry where truth is preached, things WMB never preached. Tell me one prophet or evangelist of the 19th or 20th century.
Which part of the thunders, seals and midnight cry was wrong? and on seals which one of the seven seals did you feel was opened wrong. Which prophecy failed? The terms " henchmen, cult" etc are derogatory. I have so many questions and believe you are lying just to spite the word of God. How much of the Bible do you read and understand. In this clip you never mentioned one Bible verse that was quoted wrong or read wrong or one prophecy that failed. You must learn to tell the truth as it has the effect of setting you free. Read The Book Of Saint John Chapter 6:53-66, maybe you are one of those disciples that left after Jesus had preached a hard sermon.
The truth can't be shot down at. The message has a lot of flaws and many people are pretending. Read larkin clarence book of revelation. You will discover where the seals were collected from. I have read that book and I am disappointed that the seals were highly plagiarized and that is dishonest. Read and research widely. These brothers are doing good work.
Why are you listening to this papal blasphemy. These agents of the anti Christ will lead you astray. You need to listen to the voice of God and his son!
@@Joseph-Branhamanti christ is saying Jesus wasnt God. Or claiming to be God. Read the Bible not the message it makes it clear what the spirit of the anti Christ is.
with all the confusion around, this channel sounds like how the angel of light convinced a rebellion against God, and where its headed is to tear down the bible itself, if your given space. and the time being invested in doing all this is as manipulative as you claim the cult is. i always hear william branham say we're all sinners but the way back is Christ, but the theory promoted in this channel is Judas like. Why did it have to be you?
They are pointing people to Jesus. If you are so obsessed about this false message, you become blind you can't see the truth. No matter what these brothers say, you won't believe them.
If you want to know the correct scriptures to believe, find a good church. When I left the message I was blessed to find a good church 10 minutes from my house. There are many churches that teach the Bible truth, we call it the Gospel of Jesus Christ. John and Charles are doing a valuable work exposing deception!
He should have been exposed many years ago!
Amen
These guys was Brandon worshippers years ago They knelt down they Worship William Branham back in the 80s and 90s
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@@stevewhitlow8474 They know what they are TALKING ABOUT. !
You two are a blessing! I used to criticize and judge you because i lived in fear. I believe God has saved me. I watched when WB prayed for the little girl who died of lukiemia. That was it for me. Branham wanted the focus to be on him not Christ. Why ask if she believed in him Instead of Jesus Christ?He also prayed in the name of the bible and an angel instead of our Lord Jesus Christ. After watching its like that fear left me and i said no William Branham was a false prophet with no fear this time. I sent it to my mother who's still in the message and tried to draw her attention to it and she told me to leave her alone and not talk about her prophet. God be merciful on William Branham for destroying families with his own interpretation of the bible. For the first time i do not panic when i state the truth.
When did you leave, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@brothercaleb over a decade ago
@@Jesus_istheanswer4_theworld arghh, you beat me to it.😅
I escaped in 2018… Couldn’t be happier.
@@brothercalebI left over a decade ago, but I was totally free few days ago because I lived in so much fear even after I left. I even went back to visit the church few times and still watched William Branham's videos out of fear. I believe if William Branham didn't repent before his demise he's in hell. He's destroyed too many lives and families and made many people mentally unstable. He's a liar who lied and deceived many just as his son Billy Paul who claimed he saw his dad welcoming him before his demise. Seeing a dead person in your dream is a familiar spirit. So maybe they are both in hell. God have mercy on their souls
@@brothercalebthese two men who have exposed this false prophet should continue to lean on our Lord Jesus Christ and I know when the Lord returns they'll have a special crown in heaven. God bless them
It's sad how many don't understand why Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour said, the whole world will be deceived
Even the elect if possible
Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour continues to expose everything that is not of Him
Thankful for true Brothers & sisters that have been through the same trials and tribulations, perfect love cast out fear
Not the weak, poor, fatherless, widows
I preached oneday that the seals were not opened by Brother Branham, and I was called in.
I did not back down. I stood my ground.
When they said It was only the Lord Jesus, Solomon and Brother Branham that had the gift of discernment. I took then to 1 Corinthians 12.
I did not have a choice but to leave, but many will not admit that I taught them certain things by the grace of God.
Things that they have incorporated into the message today.
I was wrong in past teachings, and i regret it, and I am sorry for that before God and the people that I ministered until they were convinced that Brother Branham was Malachi 4.
Yet through that, as I was preaching, many things opened up, and they got me introuble.
Jesus Christ is the only solution.
I took what I took and left what I left. I just had tonseperate with the lies.
2017, I left
Mercy Lord
I'm glad you are out, even though I'm sure that was a very difficult time for you.
@lesliewells-ig5dl
It is not easy to separate from people that you have been close with for many years.
But what must be must be.
God bless
@@lebogangseabi525 You are so right!! It's very hard, especially if family is still part of the group.
Man, I think I will do what you did. I can't pretend anymore
@Dino-ns9jx
You have to make a clear-cut decision through the Grace of God.
Be strong in the Lord.
After I joined this cult in 2006, I got very sick and lost all of my health. Feeding tube, surgery after surgery, was told I would be sick the rest of my life. After I left in 2017 I started healing and got my feeding tube out in 2018. I was 98 lbs starving to death literally. I’m pretty healthy now, can walk, eat, ride bikes, vacation and I love life. It’s abuse and we’re living proof!
I'm so glad you are healthy and free of the bondage of being in the cult!! I wouldn't be surprised if the cult was making you sick, or at least making it worse.
Freedom makes every part of your life better! So thankful God opened my eyes to the truth and was able to see all the lies in the message
@@jonathanduarte2284 It sure does! I'm so glad you got out!!
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I can assure you you were not sick because of the Word of God/ The message of the hour you were sick because of some defect in your system and you were not healing because you decided to leave but rather because that was the time of your healing or the time medicine started to kick in your system I’m happy you are enjoying the benefits of the sufferings of The Lord Jesus who suffered so you could be free . I’m sorry that you felt/ experienced abuse I’m just wondering what you mean by abuse cause other people calls correction and the straightness of the Word of God abuse.
I wish he had been exposed long ago 😔 it could have saved me many years of oppression
Amen
I look at it differently I WOULD REALY SERVE THE LORD
@@MateuszOcalictocozgineoDariusz Serve the god or branham With His interpration
The fear i has was horrible ,so much condamnation that they preached .
God is using them to save the body of CHRIST!!! There working for GOD! THANK YOU!
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The truth will set you free, and once you are free, help others be free.🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for doing this.🙏
This investigation was necessary in your healing process, it's hard not to understand why
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This is more important than anything else, I'm sure many lives have been saved and spared by you exposing this evil! Well done both!
My last day in church was horrible I felt like something is shaking my heart like my heart would be ripped
The following Sunday I went to different messages church and up with same horrible experience
Made me realize that message must be really demonic
And just to inform all of you who are still in the message
Few months after living message I went to some local church hosting some prophetic event
And please believe me all of you
I end up with same horrible heart palpitations
Painful
Hardly could drive my car back home
When got home my wife prayed over me and immediately I went to bed thinking that I’ll never wake up
So not only message churches has this demonic anointing
You are so right, there are so many more. Some people can not discern the difference in the spirit, some can! That's why we must pray for discernment. It is very important to have it. I myself have been to several. I will not stay in a church that has a demonic spirit, or says one thing and does another, churches in this day and time NEEDS to be exposed, so the people will know the difference and turn them or leave the church.
@@evahowe8078I was praying for Lord to give sign if the message is right or wrong
@@evahowe8078I’m going to make video about it and post it on TH-cam, will send you link
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Leaving the church is the great falling away that Paul spoke of. Grow up, put your big boy pants on, find a church that preaches sound Biblical doctrine, and tell other people about Jesus.
Also helps take down Bethel, Vallotton thinks God spoke to him about Branham's mantle.
Message is just one of many false cults and churches but many are related, have the same origin of denying biblical truth and bringing "destructive heresies" (says the Bible). Bethel, Hillsong ("Hellsong"), Kenneth Copeland, Duplantis, C P Wagner, Creflo Dollar, all NAR/word of faith/prosperity gospel, Jehovahs Witness, Mormons, SDA. Thankfully we have channels like this, "messed up Church", "Fighting for the Faith", "Long for truth", "justandsinner" and others to expose the lies of the devil and his Puppets like Branham, and to point us to biblical truth
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Bethel is off the rails with WB and other false prophets. I was on Bethel seven years before I woke up.
Bethel is mostly new age teachings. It's a "church" of goats.
Thank you guys for exposing the message. You help me a lot to leave it. God bless you!
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Believe the sign used to promote branham and the message, ironically when in 2012, God starting to open the eye's of a lot honest branham preacher's, they quit , all of them minister's said, starting from the cloud which never existed they couldn't lie to their congregation anymore, God has convicted and so John Collins, they used the same platform believe the sign to expose branham message and his lies in due course.
To all message believers the question you should be asking John or actually you should be asking that question the voice of God recordings and Branham family why don’t they take John to court for personal slander of William Branham? And I’m gonna tell you why they don’t wanna do it because what John 😇 is saying actually is the truth about William Branham
I asked the same question a thousand times. They have a lot of money , and they have powerful lawyers who are branhamist. They know deep down believe the sign is telling the truth
Here is the answer, because that is not how he taught them to deal with adversity they know better than that, secondly scripture says “Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?”
As much as these brethren bash/ exposing the Prophet as they call it they are still considered brothers because they’re still professing Christianity now as for the consequences whether punishment or reward that’s God call. The saints will conclude that when they are judging the earth whoever they are whether they are message believers or Christian denominations we shall know.
A dead man cannot defence himself, and when WB was alive on the scene, they know better not to accuse him. Anyway if the Message is the true, then the God of WB will defence His Word and His anointed.
@Royaleagle-qi5xc Even if he was alive people, wouldn't be scared to expose branham and his false doctrine . All the false doctrines have been exposed , 7th day adventist, jehovah witness, prosperity gospel and so on. He will curse these brothers, nothing will happen God has spoken in deuteronomy 18 regarding false prophet like branham
@@Dapublicsquare22 Let’s us start from the beginning, “WMB officially was prosecuted for his Kentucky accent” do we have to bring someone to court for challenging this lie ?
Or we can just listen to tapes to realize WMB did not have KY accent ?????
Then why he made up all of this nonsense????
Thank you. 🙏🏻
Thank you. ❤ 🇦🇺
This is exactly how confused and screwed up message of Wiliams branham is he said so many times it doesn’t matter to watch church you go to as long as you have personal relationship with Christ another same time he was saying that everybody else is wrong only he’s right don’t go nowhere else everybody else it’s under the curse, and under the spell of demons who are possessed with demons
There are so many more pastors and preacher that needs to be disposed, but people are so scared to expose them or they are satisfied with the pastor doing sinful things and saying stupid stuff that doesn't exist or just simply crazy. SO the church does it to.
I don't understand the churches why they don't speak the truth. There will be so many life's on their hands on the day of JUDGMENT!
I doubt very much that the Catholic church is worried about WMB and the message.
All these years after his death, Branham is still destroying lives. Truly horrible.
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ for both of you exposing this false charlatan. The wof, Nar, and charismatics circles will crumble.
Thank you John. I have been watching the ones about Hobart Freeman as especially relevant to myself, I was one of those who asked about your motives and perspective in a private message. It wasn't a hostile question on my part but why you are doing this is still legitimate.
John Collins, when are you going to expose the viewing audience, to some more flying pyramid cartoon??? That is what I am waiting for, maybe staring my favorite character from (Parson's group) Brother brown hat- black beard??
lol soon. My head cold doesn’t allow me to do those voices very well :)
Keep doing what your doing you are changing lives truly ❤❤❤ God bless you. Judge by the fruits ❤
Can anyone give a list of prophecies that William Branham made that proved to be false? I’m trying to collect this type of information to write an article exposing any false prophecies, given by William Branham. Any help is appreciated.
Your research is so valuable because it not only brings out the truth about The Message, but also reveals patterns of how the doctrines create the same types of behaviors in other religious movements.
Your work is key in so many ways.
Keep up the good work of shining light on the darkness.
Healings happen, God uses people.
Alot of charis talks about being elijah. Wer not elijah, or Christ. C'mon people seriously.
I thank God for the prophet william Branham through his ministry i got healed i had cancer our God will nenever fail us he is faithfull full of love and mercy
Amen
If so, God healed you because he chose too. It's not one man's ministry that is responsible. God gave his mercy where it was needed. Why don't you give praise to God instead of a manipulative lunatic.
1 John 4:1-6 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Romans 16:18 - For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Mark 7:6-9 - He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 - But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
2 Timothy 4:3 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
1 Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
What is The Message??
Christians who also believe that william brennan was a true prophet and miracle worker.
They believe he was Eliah or had the spitit of Eliah some even tought he was Jesus if i am correct.
The doctrine they teach seems to be corrupted.
Things like serpent seed doctrine and so.
They are also marked as a sekt or cult.
Talk about ACTS 2:38,not people.Even Paul in the Bible had people who didn't believe in him and they had reasons for not believing him.
Jesus had people who did not believe in Him. They crucified Him because of it.
Paul was revealed the doctrine that he wrote in the New Testament. He never claimed to be the Messiah
If you coming for faults you will find many! You achieve what your heart desires!
That's interesting, friend! Since most of the faults began with "Thus Saith the Lord", dies this mean that you are saying that you can find fault with God?
... that's why we left. It was a different "god".
This is exactly what my brother, who is in the cult, says. He gets in rage when I point him to Jesus and deny Branham. He says, " by their fruits, you shall know them," all while he is twitching and yelling that I'm playing with fire and need to stop watching John. It brakes my heart that he could be spreading the gospel yet he chooses to believe he is holier-than-thou.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
That passage is co-opted to fit the narrative of the cult. Guess what, the JWs and others use it too 😅
@cyrilvantory Crazy misapplication of that verse, which is often used by other cults as well. The reality is that Branhamism represents an "exodus" from all forms of true Christianity, in favor of a cult that is itself internally divided and dysfunctional, worse than all the denominations, and worse than most other cults. Every time a Branhamite leaves his or her Message church, the pastor starts quoting that verse in solemn tones as a warning to everyone else. It's so dumb. The verse is referring to true Christianity. Those who leave true Christianity for a pseudo-Christian cult could more accurately be considered the ones "going out from us."
This is not what you should be pressing play on.
I’ve realized the great majority of people denounced and left/ leaving the message due to a prolonged resentment they hold either towards parents or message leaders who misrepresented, misinterpreted or misplaced the intentions and objectives the Prophet was trying to get across you see these things when you visit homes and churches the personal force that is used to impose on children and church members is astonishing and absolutely not under the influence of the principles and Spirit that led Bro Branham that is why it’s not wise to settle in a church simply because they say they believe the prophet but rather do you due diligence take time to ask God if you should make it your church home that is actually what bro Branham teaches.
Got questions for you:
Why did he change the vision of 5 angels (that he was very sure of) to 7 angels?
Why did he say he under the supposedly supernatural cloud whereas he wasn't? He even said he was not there but later changed and said he was there?
Why did he say he pray for people using the three letter word that's not even in the Bible? Where did he learn that magic word, because it's not in the scriptures?
@@Dino-ns9jx provide quotes then we’ll take it from there.
@@Dino-ns9jx what are the three words again?
@@Dapublicsquare22 I thought you know the message. Why do you want quotes from me whereas you should know what I'm asking you about?
I think you should ask your pastor/elder. They know exactly what I'm talking about
I’ve met up with more than a few bad apples around this message, still don’t know why you all keep calling it a cult, met up with many who are cultish, William Branham wasn’t, never once did he try entrapping anybody, don’t get why you all hate on Branham. He isn’t the problem for fanaticism, that’s on the people. I’ve met a terrible preacher in Saskatoon Saskatchewan and 2 in Cloverdale BC, as bad as they are and I know it, nobody ever will convince me Branham is the problem. That’s on weak men, weak men create difficult times,
Got questions for you:
Why did he change the vision of 5 angels (that he was very sure of) to 7 angels?
Why did he say he under the supposedly supernatural cloud whereas he wasn't? He even said he was not there but later changed and said he was there?
Why did he say he pray for people using the three letter word that's not even in the Bible? Where did he learn that magic word, because it's not in the scriptures?
@@Dino-ns9jx Not sure, but I don't worry about these things. We have all given accounts of events in which we remember things differently. Times later remembering a detail we can hardly believe we forgot or left out. William Branham was human like the rest of us. Calling him a cult leader when he never hurt a soul is insanity!
Look up the meaning of cognitive dissonance.
@@mackenzieartz338 Lol, way too funny, not the case here, I walked away back in 2000ish, 1, 2, because of a creepy pastor in this message. I never lay the blame on William Branham and I most certainly would not be slamming him like these guys and others like him are. These guys are on dangerous ground, causing many to stumble. I would not want blood of many upon my hands, be better they had just walked away,
Hey we appreciate hearing from people who grew up in in Jeffersonville in Branham’s cult who are willing to tell the truth about this dangerous cult activity that did incredible damage to the old Pentecostal and post-WWII Charismatics. You’re not alone.
I've always wondered why people are so critical of Bro. William Branham. They doubt him. They say he was a fake prophet.
Now read this;
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matthew:28:16
And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Mark the part "Some doubted". Here we find that some disciples, I repeat, disciples of Jesus, after being with him for three years during his ministry, after seeing all the miracles he did, after witnessing him rise from the dead, some disciples still DOUBTED.
This tells me why all of you don't want to believe Bro. Branham. If some disciples still DOUBTED Jesus after everything He did, I wouldn't be surprised to see a normal human being doubt God's prophet. Doubting men of God started way back. Its not new. But one thing we can be sure about is that, God has never been on a losing side.
In addition read this;
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Timothy:4:3
It was already said in the Bible that some would not "endure sound doctrine". Again, I'm not surprised that some have left the message because they don't find Bro. Branham's teaching as sound. Well it was already written in the Bible about such people.
In conclusion, Jesus told his disciples to eat his body and drink his blood, many left him, they couldn't understand him.
God doesn't operate in majority and never will.
2 million Israelites came out of Egypt, on very very few entered the promised land. God Bless You.
You are kidding, right? You really think that when the disciples and apostle wrote those passages they were referring to the message of WMB? 🙄🙄
The reason that analogy doesn't work is because Jesus is scriptural and WMB wasn't. How many people died on the bridge? 16 men did not fall in the water and die. 2 men fell from an upper level to a lower level and died. 9ne out of MA y failed prophesy. Read Deuteronomy 18 to find out what God thinks of men who make false/failed prophesies in His name.
@@lesliewells-ig5dl I agree Jesus wasn’t a liar
@@brothercalebMisunderstood. I'm just taking the context that we can't have each and everyone believing the prophet. Doubters will always be there, unfortunately, you're on that side. Let me ask you, do you see any preacher who comes close to Bro. Branham in terms of message he preached? Tell me one person, who does not believe what Bro. Branham taught, who has never been in the message but on his own had or has a ministry where truth is preached, things WMB never preached. Tell me one prophet or evangelist of the 19th or 20th century.
@@lesliewells-ig5dlA question for you, are there things that Bro. Branham preached and you consider truth? To what percentage?
So are you going to call the prophet Ezekiel a fraud also because the Gog & Magog war hasn't come to pass yet?
No. Because its not in God's timeline yet.
Jesus Christ was first prophesied of in Genesis 3. He didn't come until right around 4000 years later
Which part of the thunders, seals and midnight cry was wrong? and on seals which one of the seven seals did you feel was opened wrong. Which prophecy failed? The terms " henchmen, cult" etc are derogatory. I have so many questions and believe you are lying just to spite the word of God. How much of the Bible do you read and understand. In this clip you never mentioned one Bible verse that was quoted wrong or read wrong or one prophecy that failed. You must learn to tell the truth as it has the effect of setting you free.
Read The Book Of Saint John Chapter 6:53-66, maybe you are one of those disciples that left after Jesus had preached a hard sermon.
The truth can't be shot down at. The message has a lot of flaws and many people are pretending. Read larkin clarence book of revelation. You will discover where the seals were collected from. I have read that book and I am disappointed that the seals were highly plagiarized and that is dishonest. Read and research widely. These brothers are doing good work.
Talk about demonic.....this is sent by the Catholic church...hitting back!
Why are you listening to this papal blasphemy. These agents of the anti Christ will lead you astray. You need to listen to the voice of God and his son!
@@Joseph-Branham you really joseph branham?
@@Joseph-Branhamanti christ is saying Jesus wasnt God. Or claiming to be God. Read the Bible not the message it makes it clear what the spirit of the anti Christ is.
with all the confusion around, this channel sounds like how the angel of light convinced a rebellion against God, and where its headed is to tear down the bible itself, if your given space. and the time being invested in doing all this is as manipulative as you claim the cult is. i always hear william branham say we're all sinners but the way back is Christ, but the theory promoted in this channel is Judas like. Why did it have to be you?
Shining light on the darkness so people don't go to a cult that destroys lives and takes them from Christ
You are not helping anybody at all because you do not direct people to the correct Scriptures to believe!
That's not true, they are constantly pointing to Jesus.
They are pointing people to Jesus. If you are so obsessed about this false message, you become blind you can't see the truth. No matter what these brothers say, you won't believe them.
If you want to know the correct scriptures to believe, find a good church. When I left the message I was blessed to find a good church 10 minutes from my house. There are many churches that teach the Bible truth, we call it the Gospel of Jesus Christ. John and Charles are doing a valuable work exposing deception!
Or maybe pray and ask the Lord for the truth.