He also makes for a good host for more serious debates compared to like Mingyu or SeungKwan. I think if one of them did it they would probably start joking around and stuff like that.
Or maybe it was because he would probably ensue a bigger chaos, fuelled by stupidly logical thoughts. (I mean, I thought he was maybe smart till he made that 'Team Currently' dad joke he has absolutely no hope smh)
Considering he was previously stated as the member that knows the most of general information, whoever had him on their team would have an extreme advantage lmao
I can give the only one advantage of having 3 eyes that really does matter: you can watch Going Seventeen with two of your eyes and use your third one to read subtitles.
Wow I need 3 eyes now! I can read and understand Korean but I still gonna read subtitles as well. I can't leave subtitles even that is my mother language. Lol
jeonghan is really good at convincing. he’s the type of person that says things with zero sense but with enough confidence to make you think about it and believe him
Honestly? That's what it all needs most of the time. Guts. That's what they usually find in pageants and debates. I am a debator myself and even when we personally don't agree with our stand, we find ways to convince other people so we fool ourselves. We play mind games.
@Eleonora yeah. And then we sometimes end up changing our beliefs because we were so convincing we ended up making ourselves agree with what we used to be against to.
scoups: "then how you gonna gain money as a 10-yrs-old???" vernon with his intelligent mind: "well, youngsters these days can build up a TH-cam channel and make money from it" nobody but dokyeom: "or we could pick up the coins on the street" PLEASE IM DYING WHEN ITS THAT PART SMJKJKEKJDKDE
Chan im cry laughing with you! but honestly, in all this comedy chaos-- im sold on a 3rd hand 💐💗🤣 Jeonghan and Seungcheol were going strong with their debate, but Currently had the best answers!
This is so true. I am a multi. I stan tons of groups. But Seventeen, GOT7, and BTOB are the only groups that made me fall onto the floor and die from laughing 😂😂
Highlights - Wonwoo fits the host's role on this segment - Jeonghan has a rebuttal for everything! - DK and Boo have the best facial expressions - Mingyu being lost in the conversation - The8's head bump (hope he is okay) - Jun's speech - Scoups on bothered being called clingy - Woozi as the 10 yr old genius composer - Hoshi with Age is Just a number - Vernon on his lists - Joshua and his Intelligent Name - Dino laughing on all arguments This is one of the best segments yet
DK: Don't you think our fans will get scared if you have an eye at your back? Mingyu: Hey, you think an arm coming out of your foot isn't scary?? LMAO. This 97line HAHAHAHAH
Jeonghan: will make u believe that sun revolves around moon S.coups: Will tell u why Jeonghan is wrong DK and Hoshi: We are clowns. Just let us be the same Dino: Let me laugh looking at those clowns
This may sound like a little thing but the way Mingyu was able to summarize every point of that 10 y/o vs 60 y/o debate in one simple sentence while still maintaining all points of each team amazes me. Kind of reminds me of those smart people who are able to simplify complicated concepts easily. He is so smart
Jeonghan: At the age 10, your teeth won't ache even when you eat ice creams. Seungcheol: They don't ache at the age of 60 either... Why, the age 60! I seriously don't get-- Why do you believe that it would for a 60-year-old? Jeonghan: Because it does for me, now. Seungcheol: My father eats 3 of them at a time. Jeonghan: I said it does for me, right now! Seungcheol: I SAID MY FATHER EATS 3 AT ONCE MISTER! Jeonghan: IT WILL ACHE WHEN I'M 60, YOU'LL SEE! Seungcheol: I said it doesn't ache for us, you know? 25-year-old idols arguing about ice cream, I cannot---
this ep just really proves how much of a calm intellectual jeonghan is. none of the arguments and rebuttals ruffled him. and he has a really convincing way of presenting his facts even though the topics they're defending are so ridiculous. (plus, did yall notice the way he said that dragonflies dont have eyes on the back of their heads but can instead move them 360°? really smart, and in a matter-of-fact way, too) jeonghan. an intellectual. stan.
Joshua : for 25 years, i have lived a perfectly convenient life with my two hands Jeonghan : *in the back* for 25 years, i've lived a perfectly convenient life with my two hands too. Even with my two eyes LMAO THIS GAME IS SO STRONG
idk man i think boo's team did better? like i feel like they got harder topics but were ultimately more persuasive haha out of the other team though jeonghan really was the best!!
This episode really proves that Jeonghan is very smart. He rebuts most of the arguments with the niche in their benefits (e.g. the dragonfly one). I personally think that it is a really smart way to counter the argument. I also think that if wonwoo joines the debate (and in the opposite team with Jeonghan), this will be more unlogically logic debate lol.
@@sivvue I am not sure about debating rules but I think if it is possible to support your topic (e.g. being 10 yrs old) while offending the other team's topic (e.g. being 60 yrs old), I think it's not that off-topic. Like you can support your point while stating the niche of other team's point smt like that.
They cut out quite a lot it seemed 😂I keep noticing cuts in random places like it just makes it seem like they cut out hysterical laughter like ‘HE’S OLDER THAN YOU!’
i DO really thought it would be some serious debate but then.. "intelligent" "intercom" "intelevision" "intel" "interstellar" I TOTALLY LOST IT AND ITS NOT EVEN STARTED YET
10:40 Vernon absolutely losing his mind at the idea of being able to wash yourself AND brush your teeth in the shower if you had three hands still kills me to this day
Why is nobody talking about the fact that Seungkwan noticed Dokyeom got cut off at 19:50 and pointed it out? 😭 ah my baby Boo is seriously so considerate and caring and just notices the smallest things about everyone dsjlghsdlsjghslfjghsljhglsg
Woozi: When we're old, while performing our responsibilities to the society, in highly inconvenient situations, there would be disadvantages that would arise. However, if you're a 10 year old child when those inconvenience arise, you can just.. *Sudden Skit* Jeonghan: *acting like a mother* Who told you to do this! Woozi: *acts like 10 year old boy* What's thaaat
mingyu: *stands up for the first time thinking his rebuttal will destroy the other team. also mingyu: *not even halfway his argument--- wonwoo: that's not allowed poor meanie 🤣
Yeah they could have " see if you got 3rd eye you could have avoided that but jeonghan would make a comeback with but with the 3rd hand hao could have covered his head 🤷
it's interesting to see the arguments of team currently is all about practicality and efficiency while team interstellar's are mostly emotionally driven.
not sure if this an accurate assessment, since we have svts number one emotional kid seokmin on team currently- he even brought up more sentimental concepts such as the important of lending a hand to go forward and rise together thing haha, but joshua was the one who brought up a practical argument about having to customize all your jackets/shirts/tops but was immediately shot down by his own team members too fjdslfj so maybe you're right haha
So true! Me and my sister both sided with different teams throughout the video, with her practical-self siding with Team Currently and my emotional-self siding with Team Interestellar
rewatching this in 2022 while gose is on a break (because debate night is iconic af) and the lack of constant sound effects really makes a difference. I'm so happy with how the gose team has grown :') it's also just great to see the boys doing what they do best here
@@suz5191 Ahhh yeah it does seem like the editors get more n more creative as time goes on. But idk if i like any particular style better, since it always seems humorous to me skdjksj
I can’t even count how many times I have to rewind and watch some scenes. Because everyone wants to talk, and everyone doesn’t follow the rule of letting the other team to finish their argument. It is so chaotic, lol. But I have to admit that Coups and Jeonghan are so philosophically smart. Their leadership and argument skills persuade me a lot. Mingyu is so me, I would be talking some random things and hit around the bush or saying nonsense words 😂😂😂
me too i have to watch this thrice because i want to see their expression but i also want to know what are they saying. i think the sub alignment make it more confusing, they're not align and in hurry because everyone wants to talk. if only the paragraph is aligned, i think i can read better although with fast speed.
This is actually one of many genius translations of gosev editors - Here's what the members were saying in korean (direct trans.): JH: If your eyes are in the liver, it can only see the liver. MG: Then don't see the liver/Don't test the waters. This is a play on the word 간; which means liver AND taste/seasoning. Therefore to see '간' (간을 보다) means to see the liver (very literal) but also to test the taste (trying a tiny bit of something to test that its well seasoned). Testing the taste in korean means the same as testing the waters in english. But regardless of the actual scenario, I believe the translator did a superb job of relaying the tone and message of the members without disturbing the flow of the content - Which has to be done very often in gosev due to the amount of play on words that the members use (especially in debate night, also the delivery food fighter ep. was basically entirely wordplay) which is very difficult to understand if you aren't fluent in korean. Just wrote this comment because I love to see that the translations are being understood to the same level of chaos and hilariousness as the original wording 😂👍👍👍
*world* : pro cons of technological development , artificial intelligence , manned mission to mars *seventeen* : better to live with 3 hands or 3 eyes , living in a body of 10 or 60
As a HUMSS student and as a fan... I can’t believe I just watched my idols and spend 28 minutes,,, watching them debate about additional body parts and age
the way he delivers his arguements makes you question your own but once the debate ends, you realize that what he said doesn't make sense 😂 that's how talented he is
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they didnt put wonwoo in either team bc they knew he had too much power as the only svt member that thinks
You are right though
He also makes for a good host for more serious debates compared to like Mingyu or SeungKwan. I think if one of them did it they would probably start joking around and stuff like that.
Or maybe it was because he would probably ensue a bigger chaos, fuelled by stupidly logical thoughts.
(I mean, I thought he was maybe smart till he made that 'Team Currently' dad joke he has absolutely no hope smh)
😂
Considering he was previously stated as the member that knows the most of general information, whoever had him on their team would have an extreme advantage lmao
I can give the only one advantage of having 3 eyes that really does matter: you can watch Going Seventeen with two of your eyes and use your third one to read subtitles.
I totally agree with you, especially for those who have eyes like wonu and international fans😂
Omg you're a genius
Wow I need 3 eyes now! I can read and understand Korean but I still gonna read subtitles as well. I can't leave subtitles even that is my mother language. Lol
I need 13 eyes
Pineapple
Jeonghan : "We're currently..."
Wonwoo : "Team Currently, I see."
I CANNOT--
🤣🤣🤣
LOL
somehow that's peak wonwoo humour for me
the way we won't ever know the real name 🧍
@@harukaMylove i think they were just stalling time to come up with one
Vernon: you can be a youtuber or compose music like Woozi to earn money
Dk: or you could pick up coins on the ground
DK being DK 😭🤣🤣
😂😂😂
hahaha😂
jeonghan is really good at convincing. he’s the type of person that says things with zero sense but with enough confidence to make you think about it and believe him
Libra power
HE HAS THE POWER OF BRAINWASHING 😂😂
He could say something like, ‘ the sun is blue,’ and I would agree with him
Honestly? That's what it all needs most of the time. Guts. That's what they usually find in pageants and debates. I am a debator myself and even when we personally don't agree with our stand, we find ways to convince other people so we fool ourselves. We play mind games.
@Eleonora yeah. And then we sometimes end up changing our beliefs because we were so convincing we ended up making ourselves agree with what we used to be against to.
“I believe that this debate is very bad for the mental health” -mingyu
YES!
i laughed so hard my brain hurts o-o
i attest to that!! my brain couldn’t function well after watching this 😂🤯
wkwkwkkw lol😂
So what cry me a liver
Time stamp?
everyone: debating very seriously
dino: laughs at literally everything
Dino would be me at that situation
omy i only just noticed now that he barely said anything hahaha😂😂😂
@@ibi_xox1953 yes 😂 only in the beginning
I love to just take the time to really stop and enjoy Dino's laughter it really brings me joy❤❤❤❤
for real frrrr 💀
2:22 Joshua : intelligent
Wonwoo : ok, intercom
Seungkwan : intelivision?
Mingyu : interstellar!
Lmao I can’t with them💜🤣
s.coups: if you're 10 how are you gonna drink after practice
jeonghan: weLL i sTopPed dRinKing so yOur aRguMent is irrElevAnt
haha jeonghan so smart. won't even give a slight chance to the opposing team
Vernon:
Vernon:
Vernon:
Vernon:
Jeonghan: showering and brushing teeth at he same time
Vernon: WOHHHHHHHHH
Honestly had the same reaction tho 😂😂😂
All Go-Se was like that:
Vernon Quite 24/7
Jeonghan: *weird idea, no sense, weird idea again*
Vernon: WOAAH .
🤦🏻♀️ Stop encouraging him 😂😂😂
Lmaoo wait what time 😂😂
He said it could help you sleep 5 mins more and honestly, SAME
10:38
jihoon's "i just wanna go home" it's not even a joke anymore.
he really just wanna go home.
He's following his dad guys
LeeKnow_ Fawa?¿ i wheezed.
@@euwhen 💀TOO SOON-
Fawa the Guava •-•
I don’t get it, why would he follow his dad.
Fawa the Guava •-• I’m assuming this is about yoongi, if it is please stop he doesn’t like being compared to him
seungcheol was lowkey making sense saying it would be frustrating to live as a 10 yo seeing everyone grow up, you would feel very left behind
read Dam of the forest , it's kinda like that just sharing HAHAHA
yea i was waiting for their team to mention that, scoups ateee
scoups: "then how you gonna gain money as a 10-yrs-old???"
vernon with his intelligent mind: "well, youngsters these days can build up a TH-cam channel and make money from it"
nobody but dokyeom: "or we could pick up the coins on the street"
PLEASE IM DYING WHEN ITS THAT PART SMJKJKEKJDKDE
218 bro at it finest
This seems like smth that one of those incorrect seventeen quotes would post lmao
@@heyitsmira17 but it is in REAL LIFE that is what that make it more funnier skskskks
Youngster youtubers though,still need a consent from their parents or guardians to make TH-cam channel.
Well what dokyeom said is true 🤣🤣🤣
"Intelligent"
"Intercom"
"No, Intelligent!"
"Intercom?"
"Intelevision... wait no"
*"Intelligent"*
"Intel..... Team Intel"
And ended up as team interstellar hahaha
The intercom joke was the best though, I laugh so hard lmao
Interstellar must be in a game or something that he's able to spell it.
tinaj .siha its a popular movie i think thats why
CONGRATS YOU RECEIVED THE888 LIKES HAHAHAHHA LOL
Dino doesn't care, he's here to have fun lol
Roshni Ethiraj Exactly 😂
Our maknae is so adorable
Chan im cry laughing with you! but honestly, in all this comedy chaos-- im sold on a 3rd hand 💐💗🤣 Jeonghan and Seungcheol were going strong with their debate, but Currently had the best answers!
that's me when my friends fight.
11:55 **Minghao comes out**
“Our ace in the hole, at last!”
Minghao’s head: *THUMP!*
i feel so bad for laughing
Wonwoo: _"In logic night we bring problem that we face in our everyday lives"_
also Wonwoo: _"3 eyes vs. 3 arms, _*_GO!_*_ "_
😂😂😂😂
What are you talking? it a serious issue 😗
'in our everyday lives'
'pollution'
Noooo what's that... I wanna know... '3 EYES VS 3 ARMS?'
you mean you don't struggle choosing to have 3 eyes or 3 arms EVERYDAY??? smh
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
as someone whos done debate for a long time jeonghans way of convincing everyone regardless of his half assed arguments were no joke 😳😳
yume r ikr, his skill is just 👌🏼
the advertising major jumped out
Lmao I do debate to. PF, LD and policy
He also have conviction.
Debator carats, UNITE!!!!
원우 진행 깔끔하다 잘 끊고 진행 잘함 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 팀명 정할때 개웃겨...
???: 현재팀이요?
인터폰ㅋㅋ
하 ㅈㄴ 웃겨
???:인텔리전트
???:네 인터폰
???:???
인터폰에서 터졌다가 ㅋㅋ
현재에서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ무심한듯 막정해서 더웃김
Jeonghan’s power of persuasion 🤯 He never raises his voice, minimal movements, direct eye contact. 🔥 HE IS ON FIRE with this kind of games.
Honestly, this shows their intelligence and smart sense of humor. I'm amazed.
@saythename carrot HAHA, it's as if you're shocked that they're "actually" smart >u
@saythename carrot don't worry, girl (or boy? HAHA) same feels, hahah
ㄹㅇ 전원우의 노빠꾸 마이웨이 진행방식이 살림ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 12명을 어떻게든 정렬(?)시키잖음ㅋㅋㅋ
아니 왜 답글이 없지
룰루
랄라
릴리
정렬 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Jeonghan is so persuasive. If he wasn't an idol he would be selling cheap rugs to 60 year old ladies for 1500 in some corner of the world
LMAO legit thooo... hes gonna be your local scammer lol
IM- 😂😂😂
@@dancingkathy5062 YOUR LOCAL SCAMMER 💀💀💀
😂😂😂 i feel sorry for Jeonghan that I have to agree with you on this. Lol
I-
14:21 Jeonghan: "When dancing, don't you create a cool impression by holding your belt like this?" *insert demo*
Editor: "Idk they're weird" I CANT-
Jeonghan is really weird 😂😂😂
And we saw that happening in HOT🔥mv
We stan for the editors
DK: A third eye would scare the fans
Mingyu: And you think an arm coming out of your foot wouldn’t?
I just about died y’all.
😂
They are spittin straight facts i dropped to the floor
want to like but the 333 likes tho (´｡• ᵕ •｡`)
their mind 😮 it amazes me
9:49
Let's admit it.. they have the most Interesting themed videos in TH-cam among other idols
Yup yup
I agree
i heard non carats in korea watch going seventeen every week like a regular variety program, that’s how entertaining they really are
This is so true. I am a multi. I stan tons of groups. But Seventeen, GOT7, and BTOB are the only groups that made me fall onto the floor and die from laughing 😂😂
and it's a plus thing that it is free to watch
joshua: intelligent
wonwoo: intercom
joshua: intelligent
seungkwan: intelevision
joshua: intelligent
wonwoo: intel.
mingyu: interstellar
wonwoo: INTERSTELLAR IT IS.
SRSLY THEY CHANGED IT LIKE DAMN
Lol 🤣🤣
Reading this comment made me laugh at it again
sounds fake but isnt TTTTTTT
Few minutes later .
Wonwoo : Now! Okay , team interstellar-
Seungkwan : Isn't Adrenaline better ?
Vernon gave logical examples of ways kids making money (youtube/composing) then there's DK mentioning pick up coins on the ground lol i love this guy
dk being dk i literally lo this guy he is soooo funny and adorable
this is the best episode to find "things seventeen says that seem like fake subs"
it's too much lmfao
gayxuhao cry me a liver
“I shall respectful.”
- DK
Janice Xue wow. this... moved me.
Lol
😢😢😢😢 Inspirational
This is what the world needs.
Highlights
- Wonwoo fits the host's role on this segment
- Jeonghan has a rebuttal for everything!
- DK and Boo have the best facial expressions
- Mingyu being lost in the conversation
- The8's head bump (hope he is okay)
- Jun's speech
- Scoups on bothered being called clingy
- Woozi as the 10 yr old genius composer
- Hoshi with Age is Just a number
- Vernon on his lists
- Joshua and his Intelligent Name
- Dino laughing on all arguments
This is one of the best segments yet
you forgot Seungkwan with his aggressive hand heart and no eye contact
전원우 진행방식 진짜 개웃기네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 멤버들 차례 안왔는데 반박하니까 말끊고 노빠꾸로 혼자 진행한다고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 전원우 마이웨이하는 거 진짜 고양이같음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
진짜 이게 정석으로 하는 진행보다 더 웃김ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2:22 총명한 사회자
본부가 질투가 많아 조용히 보고가려고 했는데 워누씨 너무 웃겨서 좌표찍고 갑니다ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ팀명 정하는것에서부터 마이웨이 기질 다분한게 너무 웃기다고요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
전원우씨 이런 부분은 진짜 센스있어요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ진행완전 취저ㅋㅋ
We all know Jeonghan’s brilliant and damn, the way it shows...he’s becoming more handsome in my eyes...intelligent people are really attractive
I KNOW RIGHT
Knowledge is sexy
Tru intelligent guy way more hotter than bad guy type
Everyone: *fights over which age is better*
Hosh: *Everyone! Age is just a number*
*Debate Destroyed*
😂😂😂😂
DK: Don't you think our fans will get scared if you have an eye at your back?
Mingyu: Hey, you think an arm coming out of your foot isn't scary??
LMAO. This 97line HAHAHAHAH
What kind of nonsense is this? LMAO mingyu dk
I had to pause to cry-laugh at this. Mingyu obliterating DK's argument with lighting-fast logic 😂 I love him!
LMAO 😂😂😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA WATCHED IT A LOT OF TIMES AND STILL LAUGHING OUT LOUD BCS OF THIS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
WE STAN NONSENSE
Jeonghan: will make u believe that sun revolves around moon
S.coups: Will tell u why Jeonghan is wrong
DK and Hoshi: We are clowns. Just let us be the same
Dino: Let me laugh looking at those clowns
i lost it when seungcheol and jeonghan started shouting about their dads eating ice cream KSKSKKSS
Joshua, in his English accent: Intelligent
Wonwoo, writing on the paper: Intercom
Intelevision😂😂😂😂
LOLLL HAHAHA
Aminath Ismail I swear jousha is so sexy when he speaks english
Interstellar hahaha
The fanfic scene in my mind // The fanfic scene when I write it down
*This is the most logical debate I've seen in years.*
I think you mean the most ILLOGICAL debate we've seen in years 😂
You should watch Stray Kids' debate
@@신다은-p3p lmaooooooooooooooo the best logical debate ever. when non english speaker team won in english dabates. legends
jisung is an angel JXJAJJDJ “UR BEHAVIOR IS SO UGH”
dramatic hyunjin ‘ you know what I’m saying bro’
‘ why you speaking korean’
‘ yellow cardeu yellow cardeu’
This may sound like a little thing but the way Mingyu was able to summarize every point of that 10 y/o vs 60 y/o debate in one simple sentence while still maintaining all points of each team amazes me. Kind of reminds me of those smart people who are able to simplify complicated concepts easily. He is so smart
Jeonghan: At the age 10, your teeth won't ache even when you eat ice creams.
Seungcheol: They don't ache at the age of 60 either... Why, the age 60! I seriously don't get-- Why do you believe that it would for a 60-year-old?
Jeonghan: Because it does for me, now.
Seungcheol: My father eats 3 of them at a time.
Jeonghan: I said it does for me, right now!
Seungcheol: I SAID MY FATHER EATS 3 AT ONCE MISTER!
Jeonghan: IT WILL ACHE WHEN I'M 60, YOU'LL SEE!
Seungcheol: I said it doesn't ache for us, you know?
25-year-old idols arguing about ice cream, I cannot---
That part made me roll with laughter. It makes my teeth hurt now too. But maybe with fake teeth? LOL.
mom and dad fighting over ice cream lol
cute tho
im eating ice-cream now. im 14
errrrrr
They were arguing with all the logic they could find 😂
Joshua : "Intelligent"
Wonwoo : "Alright, intercom"
Seungkwan : "Intelevision! No, no, what was it again?"
I'M--
HAHAHA I LAUGH SO HARD HERE😂😂
Joshua: imagine, you don't have money-
Seungkwan: huh?
Scoups: uh?
Mingyu: huh?
Woozi: what?
Our boys are rich and well fed
they can't relate tbh
Seungkwan: What was the hardest insect to catch when we were kids?
Everyone: a dragonfly
Woozi: uhh a roly poly
Jeonghan: a cockroach
😂😂🤣🤣
I mean JH did manage to catch a dragonfly easily in TTT😅
honestly, seokmin's "im going to cry, i warn you" and "i nearly teared up just now" is me during debates and heated arguments lmaoo
this ep just really proves how much of a calm intellectual jeonghan is. none of the arguments and rebuttals ruffled him. and he has a really convincing way of presenting his facts even though the topics they're defending are so ridiculous.
(plus, did yall notice the way he said that dragonflies dont have eyes on the back of their heads but can instead move them 360°? really smart, and in a matter-of-fact way, too)
jeonghan. an intellectual. stan.
Ikr perks of being a natural science major on his school days.
이때부터 시작이였나요... 고잉세븐틴이 아이돌계 무한도전이 되어버린
True
Joshua: For 25 years, I have lived a convenient life with my two hands
Jeonghan: Same goes!
13:16
HELP HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Joshua : for 25 years, i have lived a perfectly convenient life with my two hands
Jeonghan : *in the back* for 25 years, i've lived a perfectly convenient life with my two hands too. Even with my two eyes
LMAO THIS GAME IS SO STRONG
I think jeonghan totally owned tonights episode
completely, Vernon was so floored by his shower idea 😂💗🔥 Seungcheol was hitting those rebuts too!
agreed
idk man i think boo's team did better? like i feel like they got harder topics but were ultimately more persuasive haha
out of the other team though jeonghan really was the best!!
28 minutes of Seventeen talking dumbshit with sincerity and seriousness without even batting an eyelid.
It's popular b/c of the combination of dumb(debating ones) and dumbest(carats enjoying the debate)😂
they're batting the 3rd eye instead
@@rashiii.singhhhand throwing hands as well
@@rashiii.singhhh😂😂😂😂
i love how Jeonghan says things without logic, but he is so confident about them that he can win any debate
stan Yoon Jeonghan.
Yes they take it so seriously that thing make sense 😂
Couldn’t agree more
Fr
Yep
"AGE IS JUST A NUMBER"
"DEBATE DESTROYED"
I HOPE THE PERSON WHO IS EDITING IS GETTING PAID WELL
Plot twist is that it's either josh or vernon is translating, so I hope they get paid well 😊😂
@@macgies_ considering the sub uses stuff like "true dat" it's probably pretty likely lol
@@minniestagram Right?
ㅇㄴ 윤정한 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 팔 한 개는 탈부착이냐고ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 자꾸 손에다 붙였다 떼고 발에다 붙였다 떼고 엉덩이에 붙였다 떼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
The arm is detachable lol
The whole video is basically "things seventeen says that seem like fake subs but they aren't"
Yoon jeonghan is very convincing man. Every word he says sound trustworthy 😂
"So what, cry me a liver" is pure genius, quote of the year
The8 : *the ace*
Also The8 : *hits his head*
Svt : EINSTEIN
I laughed too hard at this part 😂
This episode really proves that Jeonghan is very smart. He rebuts most of the arguments with the niche in their benefits (e.g. the dragonfly one). I personally think that it is a really smart way to counter the argument. I also think that if wonwoo joines the debate (and in the opposite team with Jeonghan), this will be more unlogically logic debate lol.
Maybe that's why they made him the host (?) instead because he's the smartest in debates like this
@@sivvue I am not sure about debating rules but I think if it is possible to support your topic (e.g. being 10 yrs old) while offending the other team's topic (e.g. being 60 yrs old), I think it's not that off-topic. Like you can support your point while stating the niche of other team's point smt like that.
Jeonghan should be a lawyer.. The words he choose the way he delivered his opinions is smooth and convincing😂😂
Cheol's team: *says something*
Jeonghan, natural science major student: *going to fight with the facts, calm*
Seuncheol: -interupts minghao-
Hao: hey i’m still talking
Thughao at his best 😎
What minute?
Huriyatul Afifah @12:29
⬆⬆
They cut out quite a lot it seemed 😂I keep noticing cuts in random places
like it just makes it seem like they cut out hysterical laughter like ‘HE’S OLDER THAN YOU!’
josh: “our team name is intelligent”
wonwoo: “okay, intercon”
seungkwan: “no, its intelevision!”
someone’s got to fix them............
Eliza Laurentia no they’re perfect 🥰
Joshua: INTELLIGENT ( w/ accent)
Wonwoo: Alright, Intercom ( w/ K-accent)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jeonghan would make a really good lawyer tho💥
Also, who put Hoshi and DK together🤣
Hahahahaha. DK and Hoshi are like chaotic being together hahaha they have almost the same braincells
lol he'd win all his cases cause the defendant would give up after seeing how hot he is.
they had to separate booseoksoon in a way. Imagine those three together 💀
fr he could literally convince anyone with everything he says even if it's not true 😂
no one:
not even vernon's soul:
hoshi: *ShOw ME tHE mONeY*
i DO really thought it would be some serious debate but then..
"intelligent"
"intercom"
"intelevision"
"intel"
"interstellar"
I TOTALLY LOST IT AND ITS NOT EVEN STARTED YET
SAMEEE ESP WHEN WONWOO JUST NAMED THE OTHER TEAM "CURRENTLY" WITHOUT LISTENING TO JEONGHAN'S EXPLANATION HAHAHAHAHA
THIS GOT ME LAID
Zame sizxr
LMAO WHAT I THINK I GHOSTWRITE THIS LOL
INTELEVISION
10:40 Vernon absolutely losing his mind at the idea of being able to wash yourself AND brush your teeth in the shower if you had three hands still kills me to this day
"A high-class no-logic debate show."
- Jeon Wonwoo, 2019 XD
the ONLY political debate i'd watch ;)
How sophisticated ✨
He ain't lying tho😂😂 logically it was without logic
*No One:*
*Literally No one:*
*Seventeen in suits looking all cool:* LIvInG wITh 3 eYeS vS LiViNg wItH 3 haNdS
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now I see why SCoups is the leader. Coups and Jeonghan Seventeen's debate masters
S.coups also debates with the company for his children😂😂😂😂
Why is nobody talking about the fact that Seungkwan noticed Dokyeom got cut off at 19:50 and pointed it out? 😭 ah my baby Boo is seriously so considerate and caring and just notices the smallest things about everyone dsjlghsdlsjghslfjghsljhglsg
🥺🥺
same with joshua being cut off 🥲 uri boo~
Woozi: When we're old, while performing our responsibilities to the society, in highly inconvenient situations, there would be disadvantages that would arise. However, if you're a 10 year old child when those inconvenience arise, you can just..
*Sudden Skit*
Jeonghan: *acting like a mother* Who told you to do this!
Woozi: *acts like 10 year old boy* What's thaaat
What time?
에야althea 20:03
ngl jeonghan's team won imo,, jeonghan is extremely convincing even though the arguments make absolutely zero sense sometimes
Hahaha. Svt can make sense to 'nonsense ' argument so help me earth
Jeonghan has ‘THAT’ power even tho hes only sitting during the argument he looks powerful asf
아니 초등학교에서 토론하는거 배우는데 전원우가 선생님같고 나머지 12명이 수업하는거같음 ㅋㅌㅌㅋ뽀찌래기들 ㅋㅌㅌㅌㅋㅋㅋ
mingyu: *stands up for the first time thinking his rebuttal will destroy the other team.
also mingyu: *not even halfway his argument---
wonwoo: that's not allowed
poor meanie 🤣
The8: arguing for 3 hands.
Also The8: banging his head on the table because he doesn't have a third eye.
Owwww!!!!! If only interstellar team used that as re-but .
But if he had 3 hands he could've put one above his head to make sure he doesn't hit it with his head
But I always have thought if we had an eye behind we could avoid many accidents and thiefs!
that's what i thought too LMAOO
Yeah they could have " see if you got 3rd eye you could have avoided that but jeonghan would make a comeback with but with the 3rd hand hao could have covered his head 🤷
THE DEBATE WASN’T EVEN STARTED YET,,,
“Intelligent” “Intercom” “Intelevision” “Intel” “Interstellar” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
it's interesting to see the arguments of team currently is all about practicality and efficiency while team interstellar's are mostly emotionally driven.
not sure if this an accurate assessment, since we have svts number one emotional kid seokmin on team currently- he even brought up more sentimental concepts such as the important of lending a hand to go forward and rise together thing haha, but joshua was the one who brought up a practical argument about having to customize all your jackets/shirts/tops but was immediately shot down by his own team members too fjdslfj so maybe you're right haha
So true! Me and my sister both sided with different teams throughout the video, with her practical-self siding with Team Currently and my emotional-self siding with Team Interestellar
rewatching this in 2022 while gose is on a break (because debate night is iconic af) and the lack of constant sound effects really makes a difference. I'm so happy with how the gose team has grown :') it's also just great to see the boys doing what they do best here
wait wdym? less sfx is better or less sfx is worse?
@@peytonsharp6159 oh oops, no I meant that I miss the sound effects when watching this -- idk why I worded it like that, I must've been distracted lol
@@suz5191 Ahhh yeah it does seem like the editors get more n more creative as time goes on. But idk if i like any particular style better, since it always seems humorous to me skdjksj
And here again, watching this in 2023 when GOSE is on Hiatus!
nobody:
literally no one:
me:
"JEON WONWOO IS SO CLEVER!! HE'S SO INTERCOM!!"
He said intelpon 🤣🤣😭😭
seungkwan's arguments are really logical tho, his points are well presented
I can’t even count how many times I have to rewind and watch some scenes. Because everyone wants to talk, and everyone doesn’t follow the rule of letting the other team to finish their argument. It is so chaotic, lol. But I have to admit that Coups and Jeonghan are so philosophically smart. Their leadership and argument skills persuade me a lot. Mingyu is so me, I would be talking some random things and hit around the bush or saying nonsense words 😂😂😂
Ikr.
And, your right. Jeonghan and seungcheol are made for this
me too i have to watch this thrice because i want to see their expression but i also want to know what are they saying. i think the sub alignment make it more confusing, they're not align and in hurry because everyone wants to talk. if only the paragraph is aligned, i think i can read better although with fast speed.
Hoshi is so me !!! Love the way jeonghan leads the team. He is really charming. Cheating and caring. such a bias wrecker.
TRUE I EVEN CANNOT FOLLOW THE SUBTITLE . IT WAS MOVING SO FAST
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ원우 젤 나긋하게 생겨서 무지성 진행방식도 너무 웃기고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ멤버들 중간중간에 개그 치고 나오는거도 너무 웃기곸ㅋㅋㅋ정한인 똑똑해서 그런가 무논리같은데 자꾸 설득 당함ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
"Cry me a liver." THIS WAS ACTUALLY SOO FUNNYYY. Like if the eye is in the stomach then it can literally cry in the liver I- Okay, imma go.
And there a movie name cry me a river..
@@JustALonelyMe not that movie- :(
I died there
This is actually one of many genius translations of gosev editors - Here's what the members were saying in korean (direct trans.):
JH: If your eyes are in the liver, it can only see the liver.
MG: Then don't see the liver/Don't test the waters.
This is a play on the word 간; which means liver AND taste/seasoning. Therefore to see '간' (간을 보다) means to see the liver (very literal) but also to test the taste (trying a tiny bit of something to test that its well seasoned). Testing the taste in korean means the same as testing the waters in english.
But regardless of the actual scenario, I believe the translator did a superb job of relaying the tone and message of the members without disturbing the flow of the content - Which has to be done very often in gosev due to the amount of play on words that the members use (especially in debate night, also the delivery food fighter ep. was basically entirely wordplay) which is very difficult to understand if you aren't fluent in korean. Just wrote this comment because I love to see that the translations are being understood to the same level of chaos and hilariousness as the original wording 😂👍👍👍
@@zaranaramind Your comment is very much appreciated!! Thanks for the actual translation, it makes me more grateful for the translators too🥰
*world* : pro cons of technological development , artificial intelligence , manned mission to mars
*seventeen* : better to live with 3 hands or 3 eyes , living in a body of 10 or 60
"cry me a liver"
-Kim Mingyu 2019
*Dabs Flirtatiously I WAS SOOOO DEAD WHEN HE SAID THAT😂
So baby shut your mouth and run me like a LIVER
말도 안되는 소리를 열심히 하는게 개웃김ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 논리나잇의 킬포..
"it's an age where you can chew up a rock" - yoon jeonghan, 2019
20:15
Jeonghan: Who told you to do this like that!
Woozi: ᶦᵍᵉ ᵐʷᵒʸᵉʸᵒ 😀
am I the only one not getting over this- idk-
It's so cute~ He looked like real 10 yr XD
I kept on repeatng this "Ige moweyoya" thing
Nope me too lmao he’s so adorable 😂😂😂
And Dino’s laugh after. So contagious
😂😂
JeongHan makes the best debater because he's a person that would find the quickest and most efficient way to do things HAHAHHA
He is so smart.
I’d never see him as lively as he is in this debate
Nian Yi beacuse he's very smart and sly
Because he is *mahal, kasimura, terimakasi* founder
Hoshi calling Seungkwan "what a dragonfly" just after DK argued "Are you turning into a dragonfly" sends me 🤣🤣🤣
dk hoshi is the most chaotic funniest duo ever, just them standing over the corner not talking is already hilarious and when they speak, its over
🤣🤣🤣
im so shooked the way jeonghan defends his team like seriously
He is a protector remember lmao
As a HUMSS student and as a fan...
I can’t believe I just watched my idols and spend 28 minutes,,, watching them debate about additional body parts and age
The fact that it's still part 1.... lmao
This video made me like the idea of debate even more
"i believe that this debate is very bad for the mental health"
- kim mingyu
When you feel the tension in every members but there's just DK being the clown that he is making everyone laugh with his arguments HAHAHA I LUV HIM
If jeonghan wasn't a seventeen member he would do a great job being a lawyer. Damn he is so smart.
But I'm also glad he is a seventeen member
24:42 "Im gonna cry, I warn you"
Me in debates IANAHSHSJAAJ THIS LINE STILL MAKES ME LAUGH ITS SO RELATABLE SISBLXKJXSJ
Llolo
Must protecc
JAJAJAJAJJAJAA ME
*ME* 😭🤣
This was so infp of him😭 (I'm infp myself)
Jeonghan is a type of a classmate you will avoid to have a debate with 😂😂😂
So true....
not me. not my confrontational ass
*adjusts glasses*
Hes presence is enough for you to be scared
the way he delivers his arguements makes you question your own but once the debate ends, you realize that what he said doesn't make sense 😂 that's how talented he is
Dk's "I'm going to cry, I warn you" had me rolling on the floor😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭He's so pure pleaaasee😭😭😂😂