Damn, love that super-slo-mo Pally! I've seen slo-mo on other channels, but to be able to read each die as they tumble mid-air, well that's just a thing of freakin' beauty right there! Instantly Liked/Sub'd for that reason!
you are much closer than a lot of other supposed dice setters to what works- the axis thing is not my science at all, my sets are more extreme, but i see why this could be profitable, backing tens and fours, going for leverage. well played!
Your hard 10 was your best toss. You want to throw a knuckleball and you also want both dice to come to rest near the back wall. You don’t want the dice tumbling back towards the center of the table. They can also hit chips and fall into randomness.
Something I've changed recently is my breathing when I throw. My accuracy on placement at the other end went way up. Throw on the Inhale! Not exhale. I know it seems counterintuitive but give it a try. I exhale completely. As I inhale my chest and arm naturally rise with it. So I take a somewhat quick inhale and throw at the same time. I feel I place the dice where I want them much easier.
Respectfully, you do want some back spin. The whole point of the throw you are using is to take energy off the toss. With a small amount of backspin the dice bite into the felt and it takes energy off of them.
Javier your channel has the best camera work I've seen dealing with dice control. There is something I'm noticing due to the slow motion. Your dice hit the table and become a random roll. It is clear with all the spin after the bounce. I've been practicing for about a year and a half and just throw into a cardboard box. I'll throw like 20 times until I see the dice land perfect with no spin- hit the wall and just die- with the number I set the dice for. Technically this is all one would need to beat this game- one out of twenty. Just look at how the house screws the dark side player by baring the 12. It takes an edge of 1.40% and turns it into a 1.37% loss. Something like that can't remember exactly. Anyway there is the fact that I'm just throwing into a box, because at the casino the few times I went, I am not that consistent I believe due to the bumpy Wall. So was wondering if there really is something to this dice setting- how do you do when it's on the line?
Me personally when I hit the tables I go from casino to casino trying their tables out to see if I can find a table just like mine so it can make it more comfortable to play there.
The dice only have to click once to show seven out of that set. Also, how do you control the smaller dice the casinos are using now days? Love your channel by the way.
I have used that set before, lots of soft 6 and soft 8 plus the 4 and 10. The bad part is you won't get a decent roll cause the seven comes out as 5 and 2. I have used a nice set to get the hard 4 and made it twice last week with a 100.00 on the hard four.
Only issue that may change this success is the fact that there will be chips on the table. But you still had an awesome showing. Out of curiosity, how many takes did you do to get this particular video posted into yt. or did you not have any other practice videos? It's a reasonable question, not trying to be a hater or anything. I think you throw real well.
I’m a firm believer that practice makes you better at anything. Honestly it took one time like you see in the video. However it took me hours to edit it. You just gave me a good idea I’m going to have to do a live video at one point(eventually practice makes you perfect😉).
Thank you so much for you sharing with us,but how can you keep the dice close with your fingers open like that? I can only imagine if you could or try to keep your fingers close....
I know this is an old video but your a great shooter, only thing I notice is that your table isn't very bouncy like most casino tables people play. I would like to see you control on a real casino table
frankie only practice will tell you which grip set and toss mechanics works for you i just saw live in casino one guy use two fingers out side squeeze dice togther using the 24 42 set omg the bone thrower video shows it i was on short money ona 415 table this guy baile me out made 4 passes 1st time hit boxes like crazy i strated with 5 6 8 place after a win i spread it to other numbers and field bet the full iron cross 1st shot he won me $250 his next shot made 3 passes won me $350 more like wow next im practicing at home to find out what sets work best for me and table position other than stick right 1 or 2
Javier try using two fingers out side to hold dice togther your 3 finger grip is splittingdice cause your fingers are splitting open two fingers on outside preessed tight will keep dice tgther
Whenever I go to the casino I always go next to the stick man or I don’t play otherwise. However my table is a 8 feet long so I have to go all the way back so I could my like if I’m playing at a real size casino table since the tables there are 12 to 16 feet long. Thx for your comment!!!
Hey, good work keep coming ,, everyone is talking about this new way to toss them without spinning and I think that works because I tried alive casino and I did well.. I just need to practice more.... with it tossing them inside a cup.
Nicely done. Please don’t play any inferior craps games such as Crapless Craps or bubble craps. Tell everyone you know not to play these inferior games as well. I believe that the casinos are getting on to dice control and are trying to eliminate original craps. The sign that this is happening is the high minimum bets at original craps tables. The casinos got rid of original blackjack games the same way. I’m going to be 67 this year, and I’ve witnessed the elimination of original blackjack games. I don’t want to see this happen to original craps games. The pass line and don’t pass bets have very low house advantages especially when talking or laying full odds. It doesn’t take much to swing the odds in your favor. The casinos want to eliminate bets altogether. Or bar the 3 on don’t bets and turn all numbers into point numbers. This kills the pass line when 11 becomes a point number instead of a 100% winner on the come out roll. Please don’t play these mathematically inferior games.
I put $5 dollars on a fire bet and hit every winning number and the 9 twice and won the fire bet and they payed me $5000 dollars and told me to keep shooting and I hit 3 more winning numbers and was told that no one has ever done that before but for some reason the 3V set wasn't as affective for me since and I know that the Casino made some adjustments in their favor because everytime I would come back to the Casino they would warn the table man by saying this is Myron and the table man would nod his head in agreement like he knew who I was
Why was this in my feed? The guy throws everything off axis. That’s not dice control, that’s just throwing like any random roller. Good that he’s practicing though.
Interesting video. Question: Why are you setting for the 4 & 10 when the 6 & 8 would be more likely to hit since there are more ways to make them? Do you have sets for other numbers? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Lift throws are much more controlled using only release extensor muscles seems to impart less action they die quickly and less landing zone double pitching. Nice video!
This is not dice control. Your dice aren’t even staying on axis.you even threw into the hook. You keep twisting your throw instead of a straight throw. On some of your throws one dice is rotating more than the other. You should also be standing right of stick or left of stick. Some people man they think they know what there doing and then they post stuff like this. SMH!
Thank you reply to my video. This videos are a record of my progress on dice Control. FYI my table is a 8ft long however at the casinos tables range from 12ft to 16ft long so that’s why I go all the way back but when I got to the casino I stand right next to the stick man. Thx I appreciate the words of advice.
All practice seems to help. But a short table, tossing from the end - not that easy to find in casinos. 8ft is near stick r or l on a full table, so throw from 8' from the side, 12' from the back.
those throws would not be allowed consistently in a casino. as soon as you had your biggest bet, and you hit your number, they would call no roll, PROVIDED, you had been warned to hit above the flat strip. it is very skilled, im not saying you couldnt move around and get away with it, maybe a couple of hours at most.
First off, nice vid... great use of slo-mo to show the mechanics of your throw and dice action! Your arrangement is a variation of the 2V Set (61-43). You have a 61-34 set (a 180 spin of a die), which produces the same combos/probabilities. While this set only produces two ways to roll a 7 on the Z-axis, the downside to this set is that if one die flips on the y-axis it can produce up to 4 more combinations of 7, for a total of 6 combos. This is why the Hardway Set is preferred (a flip of a die doesn't produce a 7), but the downside here is that the probability of hitting 4/10 is reduced by one. Therefore, to minimize the probability of hitting a 7 on a die flip , minimize the chance of hitting 6/8, and have the same probability of hitting a 4/10 as the 2V Set, you should consider shooting the 52-52 set (arrange how you like the top and face to look like, but it truly doesn't matter; doubles on top helps to quickly set). This set is mostly used by a don't player to increase the chance of 7-out before hitting a 6/8 point (because the odds are 4:1 to hit the 7). Since your goal is to hit a 4/10, this set is great and better than the 2V that actually increases the chance of hitting a 7. Just gotta keep the dice from pitching. I'm nowhere close to perfection myself, and since my dice also tend to pitch and flip I stay away from the 2V, 3V and Field Set (for now). When you know your dice will not pitch and will remain perfectly on the Z-axis even after hitting the bumper wall, then, yeah, the 2V set is your friend for hitting the 4/10 before a 7. Nice vid!
@@UltimateTexasHoldemGuru Math Guru I agree with what you’re saying but tell that to Tiger or Bonds. One athletic move with variables….it’s consistent percentages we are all going for. Greens in regulation, slugging percentage, hitting for average and driving for show but putting for dough!!.
The camera work is pretty cool, unfortunately, unless the table and dice were made of Velcro and you can control exactly how they landed, the randomness of the bouncing around when they land makes it uncontrollable. 😊 .
The slow motion video was great but you failed on your set up of the camera. If both camera was filming at the same time showing the the right view from the back showing always the dices from your hand until the land zone, should be more credible. But at soon you cut the video to show the results, that is no go to me. Sorry
People that actually believe this nonsense should not be allowed in a casino and the reason is that nobody should be allowed to show and demonstrate such stupidity
Dice "out of control" video, total random results every throw. Nice camera work, clearly shows random results. Not saying you can't control dice occasionally, but consistently it's nearly impossible. Still waiting for a youtube craps video that actually shows consistent dice control, maybe some day...
So are you a millionaire yet? Which casinos have you been thrown out of? I know the answer because that is what would happen if you could actually control the dice.
Damn, love that super-slo-mo Pally! I've seen slo-mo on other channels, but to be able to read each die as they tumble mid-air, well that's just a thing of freakin' beauty right there!
Instantly Liked/Sub'd for that reason!
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you are much closer than a lot of other supposed dice setters to what works- the axis thing is not my science at all, my sets are more extreme, but i see why this could be profitable, backing tens and fours, going for leverage. well played!
Your hard 10 was your best toss. You want to throw a knuckleball and you also want both dice to come to rest near the back wall. You don’t want the dice tumbling back towards the center of the table. They can also hit chips and fall into randomness.
Nice slow motion video... can really see what’s going with the dice. Hope to run into you at 🎰
Great slow mo.... dice are tumbling off axis in the air. I work on my grip all the time to try and keep the dice tracking on axis in the air...
Me, too. Have to keep my fingers together until the dice leave my fingers. This gentleman is on the right track!
Something I've changed recently is my breathing when I throw. My accuracy on placement at the other end went way up.
Throw on the Inhale! Not exhale.
I know it seems counterintuitive but give it a try. I exhale completely. As I inhale my chest and arm naturally rise with it. So I take a somewhat quick inhale and throw at the same time. I feel I place the dice where I want them much easier.
Dice every which way when anybody throws them after they hit the table and wall.
Best slo motion ever watched nice🔥🔥🔥🔥✅
Thx good simple to the point.
Is that a regulation table. I have an 8ft & stand back 3 to 4 ft.
Respectfully, you do want some back spin. The whole point of the throw you are using is to take energy off the toss. With a small amount of backspin the dice bite into the felt and it takes energy off of them.
Javier your channel has the best camera work I've seen dealing with dice control. There is something I'm noticing due to the slow motion. Your dice hit the table and become a random roll. It is clear with all the spin after the bounce. I've been practicing for about a year and a half and just throw into a cardboard box. I'll throw like 20 times until I see the dice land perfect with no spin- hit the wall and just die- with the number I set the dice for. Technically this is all one would need to beat this game- one out of twenty. Just look at how the house screws the dark side player by baring the 12. It takes an edge of 1.40% and turns it into a 1.37% loss. Something like that can't remember exactly.
Anyway there is the fact that I'm just throwing into a box, because at the casino the few times I went, I am not that consistent I believe due to the bumpy Wall.
So was wondering if there really is something to this dice setting- how do you do when it's on the line?
Me personally when I hit the tables I go from casino to casino trying their tables out to see if I can find a table just like mine so it can make it more comfortable to play there.
I've used this set before! Lots and lots of field rolls!!!
The 5-6 3-5 is the best dice set in my opinion!
The dice only have to click once to show seven out of that set. Also, how do you control the smaller dice the casinos are using now days? Love your channel by the way.
I have used that set before, lots of soft 6 and soft 8 plus the 4 and 10. The bad part is you won't get a decent roll cause the seven comes out as 5 and 2. I have used a nice set to get the hard 4 and made it twice last week with a 100.00 on the hard four.
Wrong not if u throw them right
I agree I played and won ,when you set the dice that fits you to throw 4 and 10 , ,not everyone is the same dice set > but 2 to 1 payout is powerful ,
Cool video in just getting into dice control I use a 3V set
I like the set. 4+10 can make money quickly.
Nice to see it in action, I play on an e machine. Trying to get better odds from dice setting (might be wishful thinking lol)
Fascinating video. Subscribed.
Good airborne axis control but throwing them high like that delivers big radom bouncing.
It does be he's still going without hit 7s
The slo mo is definitely top tier ish bro
I could be wrong but ,I recall reading that that is called sliding the dice which is Illegal and can be prosecuted.
I’ve been doing this in a few casino and they never bother me before.
great video!!!
Only issue that may change this success is the fact that there will be chips on the table. But you still had an awesome showing. Out of curiosity, how many takes did you do to get this particular video posted into yt. or did you not have any other practice videos? It's a reasonable question, not trying to be a hater or anything. I think you throw real well.
I’m a firm believer that practice makes you better at anything. Honestly it took one time like you see in the video. However it took me hours to edit it. You just gave me a good idea I’m going to have to do a live video at one point(eventually practice makes you perfect😉).
@@ezienex That's really awesome. I would love to be a viewer of that. Thanks for responding back.
dontswin only issue is his throw release grip set are all horrible!! Just being real.
This is the Only set I use. It’s better than hardway sets to avoid the seven.
SLO-mo is cool but your dice are pitching try keeping your fingers together on your release
Thx for the tip.
Thank you so much for you sharing with us,but how can you keep the dice close with your fingers open like that? I can only imagine if you could or try to keep your fingers close....
Practice
I know this is an old video but your a great shooter, only thing I notice is that your table isn't very bouncy like most casino tables people play. I would like to see you control on a real casino table
I am new to dice controlling. Looking for some feedback on what set, grip, and throw have people had the most success with thank you
frankie only practice will tell you which grip set and toss mechanics works for you i just saw live in casino one guy use two fingers out side squeeze dice togther using the 24 42 set omg the bone thrower video shows it i was on short money ona 415 table this guy baile me out made 4 passes 1st time hit boxes like crazy i strated with 5 6 8 place after a win i spread it to other numbers and field bet the full iron cross 1st shot he won me $250 his next shot made 3 passes won me $350 more
like wow next im practicing at home to find out what sets work best for me and table position other than stick right 1 or 2
hey frankie keep watching my videos, I'll be showing my progress, set and grips, thanks for your comment!!!
Is your table homemade or an official crap table. BTW love that set and throwing style
Great video! I like to see the dice flying so i can see the spin and flipping! What grip are you using and do you have landing zone?
love it basically it'ts the 6-4 top i use with 5-5 facing me or the flying 2 v
Great video for motivation...but you need to show the set , throw and result. Solid but we need confirmation. Great video again.
You won't get it because it doesn't work.
@@ryanwarner5006 lol
Where you buy your dice ?
Nice table but dice are thrown randomly.
have you recorded a bunch of rolls and actually calculated how much more often the 4 and 10 shows up?
Greetings, what happened you stopped making videos, are you still going to your local casino?
We had a new born so I haven’t had the time to but I’ll eventually
THE BEST SLOW MOTION EVER
Love the video. Great work. Ever play in Vegas?
Thx for the comment. I’ve been to Vegas ones but I didn’t get the chance to play next time I’ll make sure to take their money 💰 😂
Javier try using two fingers out side to hold dice togther your 3 finger grip is splittingdice cause your fingers are splitting open
two fingers on outside preessed tight will keep dice tgther
I’ll try it on my next video thanks for your comment!!!
Do you find it hard keeping your dice landing flush to the wall when shooting from stick left 1?
At the beginning it was
Why not stand next to stick man for closer throw?
Whenever I go to the casino I always go next to the stick man or I don’t play otherwise. However my table is a 8 feet long so I have to go all the way back so I could my like if I’m playing at a real size casino table since the tables there are 12 to 16 feet long. Thx for your comment!!!
How do you keep your dice from rotating?
you can put some spin at the end when you about to release the set in mid air, or try to put minimal spin as well, thx for your comment!!!
Hey, good work keep coming ,, everyone is talking about this new way to toss them without spinning and I think that works because I tried alive casino and I did well.. I just need to practice more.... with it tossing them inside a cup.
Thank you for commenting!!!
Love the table...
Nicely done. Please don’t play any inferior craps games such as Crapless Craps or bubble craps. Tell everyone you know not to play these inferior games as well. I believe that the casinos are getting on to dice control and are trying to eliminate original craps. The sign that this is happening is the high minimum bets at original craps tables. The casinos got rid of original blackjack games the same way. I’m going to be 67 this year, and I’ve witnessed the elimination of original blackjack games. I don’t want to see this happen to original craps games. The pass line and don’t pass bets have very low house advantages especially when talking or laying full odds. It doesn’t take much to swing the odds in your favor. The casinos want to eliminate bets altogether. Or bar the 3 on don’t bets and turn all numbers into point numbers. This kills the pass line when 11 becomes a point number instead of a 100% winner on the come out roll. Please don’t play these mathematically inferior games.
Yah great work.. 🎲🎲💰
thx for your comment!!!
Totally awesome.
I put $5 dollars on a fire bet and hit every winning number and the 9 twice and won the fire bet and they payed me $5000 dollars and told me to keep shooting and I hit 3 more winning numbers and was told that no one has ever done that before but for some reason the 3V set wasn't as affective for me since and I know that the Casino made some adjustments in their favor because everytime I would come back to the Casino they would warn the table man by saying this is Myron and the table man would nod his head in agreement like he knew who I was
Why was this in my feed? The guy throws everything off axis. That’s not dice control, that’s just throwing like any random roller. Good that he’s practicing though.
Is that a 3D printer I hear in the background?
Lol yes!!!
Haha thought so! My roommate has one so I'm quite familiar with the sound.
Interesting video. Question: Why are you setting for the 4 & 10 when the 6 & 8 would be more likely to hit since there are more ways to make them? Do you have sets for other numbers? Thanks and keep up the good work.
I’m currently working on other sets. Thank for your comment!!!
The reason is, he is trying to get paid 9 to 5.
Could land on anything.. Those dice spin so much.. And the wall has points on it designed to spin the dice at an angle
Lift throws are much more controlled using only release extensor muscles seems to impart less action they die quickly and less landing zone double pitching. Nice video!
I appreciate the tip. Thanks for your comment!!!
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Where did you get your table
I found my tablet on Craigslist
This is not dice control. Your dice aren’t even staying on axis.you even threw into the hook. You keep twisting your throw instead of a straight throw. On some of your throws one dice is rotating more than the other. You should also be standing right of stick or left of stick. Some people man they think they know what there doing and then they post stuff like this. SMH!
Thank you reply to my video. This videos are a record of my progress on dice Control. FYI my table is a 8ft long however at the casinos tables range from 12ft to 16ft long so that’s why I go all the way back but when I got to the casino I stand right next to the stick man. Thx I appreciate the words of advice.
All practice seems to help. But a short table, tossing from the end - not that easy to find in casinos. 8ft is near stick r or l on a full table, so throw from 8' from the side, 12' from the back.
I like how you slow down the video so the viewers can see how to throw. Very nice
Thank you.
You got to make the table alot more bouncing the casinos are really bouncing
those throws would not be allowed consistently in a casino. as soon as you had your biggest bet, and you hit your number, they would call no roll, PROVIDED, you had been warned to hit above the flat strip. it is very skilled, im not saying you couldnt move around and get away with it, maybe a couple of hours at most.
I can tell you like hitting that corner bro!
I suck cannot even get through 5-7 rolls. Sucks to me
This is so stupid. you get so much roll on the dice after it hits the wall that it is a random roll.
First off, nice vid... great use of slo-mo to show the mechanics of your throw and dice action!
Your arrangement is a variation of the 2V Set (61-43). You have a 61-34 set (a 180 spin of a die), which produces the same combos/probabilities. While this set only produces two ways to roll a 7 on the Z-axis, the downside to this set is that if one die flips on the y-axis it can produce up to 4 more combinations of 7, for a total of 6 combos. This is why the Hardway Set is preferred (a flip of a die doesn't produce a 7), but the downside here is that the probability of hitting 4/10 is reduced by one. Therefore, to minimize the probability of hitting a 7 on a die flip , minimize the chance of hitting 6/8, and have the same probability of hitting a 4/10 as the 2V Set, you should consider shooting the 52-52 set (arrange how you like the top and face to look like, but it truly doesn't matter; doubles on top helps to quickly set). This set is mostly used by a don't player to increase the chance of 7-out before hitting a 6/8 point (because the odds are 4:1 to hit the 7). Since your goal is to hit a 4/10, this set is great and better than the 2V that actually increases the chance of hitting a 7. Just gotta keep the dice from pitching. I'm nowhere close to perfection myself, and since my dice also tend to pitch and flip I stay away from the 2V, 3V and Field Set (for now). When you know your dice will not pitch and will remain perfectly on the Z-axis even after hitting the bumper wall, then, yeah, the 2V set is your friend for hitting the 4/10 before a 7. Nice vid!
Great info. I’ll try the 52-52 set on my up coming videos thx for your comment.
LOL. Jeff, Dice never stay on axis regardless who throws them. Video clearly shows how much the dice scatter when they hit the table and back wall.
@@UltimateTexasHoldemGuru Math Guru I agree with what you’re saying but tell that to Tiger or Bonds. One athletic move with variables….it’s consistent percentages we are all going for. Greens in regulation, slugging percentage, hitting for average and driving for show but putting for dough!!.
The camera work is pretty cool, unfortunately, unless the table and dice were made of Velcro and you can control exactly how they landed, the randomness of the bouncing around when they land makes it uncontrollable. 😊
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The slow motion video was great but you failed on your set up of the camera. If both camera was filming at the same time showing the the right view from the back showing always the dices from your hand until the land zone, should be more credible. But at soon you cut the video to show the results, that is no go to me. Sorry
Awesome slow
thank your!!!!
People that actually believe this nonsense should not be allowed in a casino and the reason is that nobody should be allowed to show and demonstrate such stupidity
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Dice "out of control" video, total random results every throw. Nice camera work, clearly shows random results. Not saying you can't control dice occasionally, but consistently it's nearly impossible. Still waiting for a youtube craps video that actually shows consistent dice control, maybe some day...
Wrong wrong wrong
So are you a millionaire yet? Which casinos have you been thrown out of? I know the answer because that is what would happen if you could actually control the dice.