I am not a Certified Hyundai Technician or Expert on Hyundai Transmissions, but this video is proof that at least my 2008 Elantra does have a replaceable filter.
Based on a document available online for this transmission (A4CF2): "When new, automatic transmission fluid should be red, The red dye is added so the assembly plant can identify it as transmission fluid and distinguish it from engine oil or antifreeze. The red dye, which is not an indicator of fluid quality, is not permanent. As the vehicle is driven the transmission fluid will begin to look darker. The color may eventually appear light brown."
Thank you for the information. I performed my first DIY transmission fluid flush today. Thanks in great part to this video. If I may just add, I noticed afterwards that it would have been better to leave the the supply port attached to the radiator, and to attach my drain hose to the output of the radiator instead. This would have flushed out both the transmission and the radiator. By attaching the drain hose directly to the supply port, whatever old fluid that was in the radiator got mixed in with the new fluid when I reconnected the hoses.
Good video. Looks like a complete flush. I am surprised to hear that the Hyundai dealer merely back flushes, instead of replacing the filter. Is the filter that you used OEM, or aftermarket? The aftermarket one on Amazon's site, is half the price of the OEM, and comes with a gasket. I have a Sonata from the same year. There is no transmission pan, and the filter can only be replaced by complete disassembly of the transmission.
I'm about to have my Sonata Transmission done at the dealership. I'd do it myself but lacking on time and tools. Great Job on this video, very thorough. It's given me good questions to ask the dealership when I decide to have it done. I want a complete flush, not just a drain/fill. Thanks again.
Thanks for the quick reply and info. I've been extremely frustrated with people telling me it doesn't have a replaceable filter when i know it does. Its nice to finally get some info that makes sense.
What’s missing from the “What actually happened” segment was the torrent of expletives that naturally follows. There were none here. So I suspect that segment is not ALL of what actually happened.
Hey Jon, Thanks for the great video! I'm about to take on this project myself in a day or two. Do you recall which hose (the one closer to the top or bottom of the engine) was the supply line? Also, do you have any recommendations for clearing the transmission fluid from the oil cooler without having access to compressed air?
thanks! I finished the oil change (finally). but I didn't open the oil pan. The silicon seal is too strong (maybe in 2010 model, it is stronger). and not suggested to be taken over. So i replaced the oil without filter change.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency, says that it's illegal for a dealer to deny your warranty coverage simply because you had routine maintenance or repairs performed by someone else.
They can deny your warranty coverage if you cannot provide proof that the maintenance or repairs were completed. Normally you'd need a receipt of the business that performed the work to show that it was completed.
So if fluid is still red, then it is still good and no need to change?Also can you recommend best OEM timing belt kit for 2005 Elantra - is Gates good?
thanks! it is clear now. I do however notice some one recommend not using synthetic transmission fluid. Hyundai recommends the AP-III kind of thing. Also, some one say it is not necessary to air-flush because some remaining of old oil could actually help the adaption (to the new oil you added). Since a air gun costs more money i guess i will drop that option..
Do not use RTV silicone on the gasket. It is a bad idea because people usually use too much and when you tighten it down it squishes out the sides and the hardened pieces get inside the transmission and do nothing but clogs the filter. If you have to use something Use red high tack spray it’s thinner and pretty effective. Additionally hand tighten all of your bolts, especially on the filter because you could strip out the aluminum threads pretty easily if you use powered driven ratchets. Do not reverse flush at the dealer rather remove the pan and the filter And clean it out. Anyway, great showman keep on rocking.
Would you please advise How can I change the transmition oil in turbine of elantra 2005 which the fillter is placed into the gears section. By opening the screw is placed in the bottom of tank, you can only change the 4 liter oil of tank and 3.8 liter of old oil is remained in gears section.
I don't believe in using aftermarket flushes. It just introduces foreign chemicals that might not be completely removed from metals and passages. No owners manuals recommend using flushes. Changing ATF regularly is all that is needed.
The best flush is just new fluid really... It already acts as a cleaner. Kind of why I just like the more frequent drain and fill approach more than full replacement.
@@nameless-og I agree. As far as I'm concerned, draining and filling once in a while is the way to go. Nothing wrong with changing the filter once in a while either.
What I have is a 2010-Elantra. I checked its transmission cooler hose, it has some (7.6x2s) number on it. I am not sure is it compatible with 1/4 inch extension hose or do I actually need to get it from dealer. My impression was 2010 and 2008 Elantra are the same.. Which one did you get?
The transmission cooler line going into the top of the rad is usually the transmission outlet line. This is true for my 05 Corolla and my 2010 Sonata. The Hyundai factory service manual allows you to drain the transmission empty as long as the engine is stopped immediately after the flow stops and never more than one minute total run time. I am still nervous about using universal transmission fluid but am considering Chrysler ATF+4 for my next exchange.
Amsoil Signature Series Multi-Vehicle Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid exceeds manufacturer specifications and is guaranteed by Amsoil. www.amsoil.com/p/signature-series-multi-vehicle-synthetic-automatic-transmission-fluid-atf/?zo=10458
No, if you replaced the pan, then flushed as shown, you would have to 1. Drain the new fluid, 2. lose the fluid collected in the pan (when) 3. Remove(ing) the pan (to) 4. replace the filter, (then) 5. redo(ing) the gasket (before) 6. Replace(ing) the pan (then) 7. adding new fluid (to proper level) - right?
One question, are you located in Canada? I'm asking because I've researched everywhere and the 2001-2010 Elantras (US) don't have any transmission filter. I know the ones from Europe do, not sure if the Elantras from Canada have a transmission filter.
I have a 2007 hyundai avante (4-speed automatic, imported from korea)... 76000km almost done without changing transmission oil ... most mechanics say that flushing the system out will destroy the transmission and it shouldn't be changed also they say that u need to change the oil when u need to change the whole transmission .... i watched this video and I really like the way u flushed the system out but I need u're help to know the correct answer about transmission oil and what to do !!?
A 2010 is still an HD like this one (2007 - 2010) and is identical. You should be able to get the filter from the dealer like I did. It is definitely a replaceable part.
From the Federal Trade Commission's website - An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work.
When sending air through the trans cooler, it might be better to send the air opposite of flow in case theyre any loose particles in the beginning of the cooler. Great vid tho
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Do you have to select RND while flushing to flush out the fluid from the torque converter, or is there always a flow of fluid between the torque converter and the gearbox when in Park ?
Fantastic video! I think I'll replace the filter next time I do this. I didn't do that last time because Hyundai says not to and now, 20,000 miles later, I've got some shuddering around 50mph in overdrive. Hopefully my torque converter isn't failing 💀 (car currently has 170,000 miles) Not sure how inclined I am to complete the step outlined at 12:20, though. It seems messy and a little expensive to buy all that extra fluid. How important do you all think it is to get *all* the old fluid out?
Some new fluid is better than no new fluid...pending you are running the same manufacturer type of fluid. It is best to get all new though. Mixing different brands/types of tranny fluid is not recommended.
@@InsaneOil Thanks for the reply. I decided to drain it all and - sure enough - made quite a mess in the process. The shuddering isn't fixed, either. In fact, it may have gotten worse. I guess I'll take it to a transmission shop now for further diagnosis
I replaced the filter ≈1 year ago while doing a fluid change, cleaned the pan, put in a new gasket, etc. Tedious as hell, but pretty easy. That didn’t affect the shuddering whatsoever Then I decided to replace all 4 motor mounts, which reduced the shuddering by ≈80%. It’s definitely still there at certain times, though I’m pretty sure my torque converter lockup clutch is on its way out, but honestly this car is such a tank and nothing seems to ever break on it, so I’m just guna keep trucking, do regular fluid/filter changes, and hope for the best. Worst case scenario, I’ll just have the torque converter replaced. The car has definitely earned it 🤣
I am planning on doing this to my girlfriends elantra- but I don’t think it has ever been done to her car. The cars 14 years old and I have heard that if you do a complete flush on a vehicle that hasn’t had it done before it could damage the transmission. Would you recommend a flush or just a change in my scenario?
I recommend a flush if you are doing it as shown in the video where you drop the pan and replace the filter. If you just dump and fill you are leaving all the sludge inside of the tranny from the last 14 years (not to mention the filter wouldn't get changed). I don't recommend using a "back flush machine".
@@jonothejester hi Jon thanks for reply, I have a new oil filter and 3 quarts of spIII for the change. If I introduce all new fluid to the tranny would it not possibly create issues? I have been watching videos and if you just do a change you only remove about 40% of the fluid from the tranny with a change opposed to 100% with a flush. Her elantra only holds 7quarts of fluid and if I just do the change 40% of that is 3 quarts. If I change the filter and just do a change would it not work better than a complete flush?
I don't recommend using a "Flush Machine" AKA "Back-Flush Machine"...I do recommend using a Flush Product, Dropping the Pan, Replacing the Filter, and cleaning the magnet and pan.
I did the flush following procedures except I directly attached the hose to cooler line which send back the cold fluid to transmission and replaced the gasket with rubber gasket which came along with the filter. Everything looks normal and shifting is better than before. The oil level is little bit low, need to buy the same oil and put it.
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Good video. Thanks. I'm looking to install a Magnafine inline filter on my Elantra as it has only 600 miles. This will pretty much save the internal filter. And I'll do a simple drain from the plug every 12,000 and replace with Amsoil ATF. This of course is not a complete flush but the filter will provide a cleaner fluid and the intervals will ensure the fluid never reaches exhaustion. Has worked well for my 2002 Odyssey that continues to work like new at 178k miles on what is considered a "glass" tranny by many.
Any thoughts about using rubber gaskets instead of the RTV? My filter came with one and I've never had any issue with rubber gaskets before but this car may differ.
Man I feel like that dealer tech fed you a bowl of hot, fresh s..t. I have a family relative who works at Kia (same thing). Can confirm they have always done fluid and filter swaps. The pan bolts are torqued to 15nm which is basically hand tight, and the most important step is surface prep to ensure the sealant is not contaminated during the curing process. That dealer you called either trolled you, or they invested in the snake oil miracle machines, and are trying to earn a return on their investment.
I had the same issue. From my understanding, Hyundai does not want it's mechanics to drop the pan during a routine transmission service. Instead they use the "backflush machine" method. The Hyundai mechanics I talked with prior to this video even said that Hyundai doesn't state the torque specs for the transmission pan because they don't remove them. I found the transmission filter through Amazon. The manufacturer is Beck Arnley. I called Beck Arnley and they provided me with the specs.
and when you mean push air in one supply line, will oil get pushed away and collected in the other end of the supply line, or collected on ground (where the transmission filter is?)
Thanks for the great informative video. I am an "old school" mechanic and I work on/and fix all of my cars myself. My wife has a 2008 Elantra and 30K miles is the recommended trans fluid change. Your video is excellent and the only critique I have is: will Hyundai honor their warranty if you don't use the Hyundai recommended SP-III Trans oil?? Keep up the good work! -Colly
I have a 2010 elantra and It seems that trans filters are not available for this application i.e.it is just a screen that requires cleaning and i haven't found a manufacturer that offers a replacement filter. At the same time, Jon's video features a 2008 elantra and did replace the filter. Is this a difference in the model year, or can you use a cleanable screen or a conventional fiber filter ?
fast forward to ~6:10 and i was rolling! or even earlier "you should probably wear gloves" FLOP, bolt comes off, ATF goes everywhere. reminds me of myself fumbling around with projects. very informative though, thanks!
I have a 99 elantra, if I just drop the trans pan, how much fluid comes out ? just doing a drain an refill only . has 61,000 miles on it , this is the 2nd time im doing it but never removed the pan .
Why do all the parts stores say the filter is not available for my 08 elantra because it's supposedly not serviceable. Are there two different transmissions for an 08 elantra?
2007 Hyundai Elantra has a capacity of 7 quarts. www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-light-truck/2007/hyundai/elantra/2-0l-4-cyl-engine-code-bd-dohc-b/?volume=us-volume?zo=10458
I had the tranny oil changed at a CAA garage. Oil is leaking from around the drain plug. They said they would have to replace the gasket but it doesn't look like there is a gasket around the plug. Looks to me like it was over tightened and stripped the threads. Mine is a 2009 Elantra. Do you know if there is a gasket around the drain plug.
he referred to the supply line , do you think he meant the discharge line from the transmission that supplies the cooler , is that just obvious ? I mean I think it is the transmission discharge that is pumping into the the plastic reservoir !
Hi jon: Sorry to bother you but I ran into a problem today... What i had is a hydraulic jack and two jack stands. When I succeeded in jacking the car, I couldn't find the transmission oil pan. There is nothing like 4:38 in your video. Is it in the driver's seat side ? Do I need to remove any cover before seeing it? Sorry we don't have the powerful lifting tools as you did but after all, we are not dealers...how can we afford them. Thanks !
Brother, My advice to you is, not to use any metals like screw drivers or any kind of metal to remove the oil pan, use a plastic tool, some micro scratches, can cause some leaks in future.
I would say if you are capable of doing the pan and filter the supply and return fluid should be no problem, you may have already done the hard part go ahead and get it done
Prior to completing this repair I experienced the vehicle shifting erratically and slipping, specifically when passing another vehicle on the highway. Poor shifting can often be a result of depleted transmission fluid qualities.
When you are flushing out the torque converter towards the end, do you have the drain hose connected at the top of the cooler? Or before it enters the cooler? Kinda hard for me to see. Thanks
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They are too lazy to drop the pan and change the filter. All filters need to be changed eventually. When the time comes, I recommended buying a filter that comes w a pan gasket, instead of using the RTV sealant.
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Actually I changed mine... 2 months later my brake pedal started sinking slowly so I changed the master cylinder and once its installed the brake booster started making hissing sound so I changed it too and the problem didn't come to an end until I changed the ABS (without changing its computer chip) So brake fluid replacement destroyed my braking system and I'm wondering why
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I love the fact you showed "What actually Happened" commend and thank you for your hard earned A++ on this Job. Well done!! Thanks!
Thank you for the comment, I hope it helped with your repair.
I would have cursed if that happened to me, I guess he just stays silent lol
I am not a Certified Hyundai Technician or Expert on Hyundai Transmissions, but this video is proof that at least my 2008 Elantra does have a replaceable filter.
Based on a document available online for this transmission (A4CF2):
"When new, automatic transmission fluid should be red, The red dye is added so the assembly plant can
identify it as transmission fluid and distinguish it from engine oil or antifreeze. The red dye, which is not an
indicator of fluid quality, is not permanent. As the vehicle is driven the transmission fluid will begin to look
darker. The color may eventually appear light brown."
Thank you for the information. I performed my first DIY transmission fluid flush today. Thanks in great part to this video. If I may just add, I noticed afterwards that it would have been better to leave the the supply port attached to the radiator, and to attach my drain hose to the output of the radiator instead. This would have flushed out both the transmission and the radiator. By attaching the drain hose directly to the supply port, whatever old fluid that was in the radiator got mixed in with the new fluid when I reconnected the hoses.
Agreed. Another method involves using compressed air to blow the remaining lines clear before installing new.
Good video. Looks like a complete flush. I am surprised to hear that the Hyundai dealer merely back flushes, instead of replacing the filter. Is the filter that you used OEM, or aftermarket? The aftermarket one on Amazon's site, is half the price of the OEM, and comes with a gasket.
I have a Sonata from the same year. There is no transmission pan, and the filter can only be replaced by complete disassembly of the transmission.
I'm about to have my Sonata Transmission done at the dealership. I'd do it myself but lacking on time and tools. Great Job on this video, very thorough. It's given me good questions to ask the dealership when I decide to have it done. I want a complete flush, not just a drain/fill.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the quick reply and info. I've been extremely frustrated with people telling me it doesn't have a replaceable filter when i know it does. Its nice to finally get some info that makes sense.
Thank you for taking one for the team. Saved me a shower.
Thanks for the comment. Glad I could help.
Thanks for showing "What actually happened". Saved me a mess!
What’s missing from the “What actually happened” segment was the torrent of expletives that naturally follows. There were none here. So I suspect that segment is not ALL of what actually happened.
Hey Jon,
Thanks for the great video! I'm about to take on this project myself in a day or two. Do you recall which hose (the one closer to the top or bottom of the engine) was the supply line?
Also, do you have any recommendations for clearing the transmission fluid from the oil cooler without having access to compressed air?
m money is on the upper connection!
Usually the top hose at the rad is transmission outlet, rad inlet.
I loved the part where you spilled the transmission fluid tray as you were taking it off ;-)
thanks! I finished the oil change (finally). but I didn't open the oil pan. The silicon seal is too strong (maybe in 2010 model, it is stronger). and not suggested to be taken over. So i replaced the oil without filter change.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency, says that it's illegal for a dealer to deny your warranty coverage simply because you had routine maintenance or repairs performed by someone else.
They can deny your warranty coverage if you cannot provide proof that the maintenance or repairs were completed. Normally you'd need a receipt of the business that performed the work to show that it was completed.
@@allergictostupid2410 Agreed, you would need some type of documentation that you actually did what you claim was done.
That's why our experience is our best teacher
Life lesson: If it happens once...consider it education. If it happens again...you have a problem.
So if fluid is still red, then it is still good and no need to change?Also can you recommend best OEM timing belt kit for 2005 Elantra - is Gates good?
thanks! it is clear now. I do however notice some one recommend not using synthetic transmission fluid. Hyundai recommends the AP-III kind of thing. Also, some one say it is not necessary to air-flush because some remaining of old oil could actually help the adaption (to the new oil you added). Since a air gun costs more money i guess i will drop that option..
Do not use RTV silicone on the gasket. It is a bad idea because people usually use too much and when you tighten it down it squishes out the sides and the hardened pieces get inside the transmission and do nothing but clogs the filter. If you have to use something Use red high tack spray it’s thinner and pretty effective. Additionally hand tighten all of your bolts, especially on the filter because you could strip out the aluminum threads pretty easily if you use powered driven ratchets. Do not reverse flush at the dealer rather remove the pan and the filter And
clean it out. Anyway, great showman keep on rocking.
Thanks for the comments and tips...always appreciated.
Thank you for the video. Although this video is 9 years ago, but is good to share that any Asian car there is Auto Filter need to be replace.
Would you please advise How can I change the transmition oil in turbine of elantra 2005 which the fillter is placed into the gears section. By opening the screw is placed in the bottom of tank, you can only change the 4 liter oil of tank and 3.8 liter of old oil is remained in gears section.
Great video! Followed your step by step process, worked like a charm. Thanks so much!
Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for the comment.
I don't believe in using aftermarket flushes. It just introduces foreign chemicals that might not be completely removed from metals and passages. No owners manuals recommend using flushes. Changing ATF regularly is all that is needed.
The best flush is just new fluid really... It already acts as a cleaner. Kind of why I just like the more frequent drain and fill approach more than full replacement.
@@nameless-og I agree. As far as I'm concerned, draining and filling once in a while is the way to go. Nothing wrong with changing the filter once in a while either.
In my humble opinion, an excellent (as in "very") video....THANK YOU!
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with your repair.
What I have is a 2010-Elantra. I checked its transmission cooler hose, it has some (7.6x2s) number on it. I am not sure is it compatible with 1/4 inch extension hose or do I actually need to get it from dealer. My impression was 2010 and 2008 Elantra are the same.. Which one did you get?
Thank you very much for fast response, you've been very helpful in my decision making. Have a great day!
hi, what is the speed or rate you fill the transmssion fluid while evacuating the fluid on other side.
The transmission cooler line going into the top of the rad is usually the transmission outlet line. This is true for my 05 Corolla and my 2010 Sonata. The Hyundai factory service manual allows you to drain the transmission empty as long as the engine is stopped immediately after the flow stops and never more than one minute total run time. I am still nervous about using universal transmission fluid but am considering Chrysler ATF+4 for my next exchange.
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Great vid, hey would it better to do the flush before changing the filter?
No, if you replaced the pan, then flushed as shown, you would have to 1. Drain the new fluid, 2. lose the fluid collected in the pan (when) 3. Remove(ing) the pan (to) 4. replace the filter, (then) 5. redo(ing) the gasket (before) 6. Replace(ing) the pan (then) 7. adding new fluid (to proper level) - right?
One question, are you located in Canada? I'm asking because I've researched everywhere and the 2001-2010 Elantras (US) don't have any transmission filter. I know the ones from Europe do, not sure if the Elantras from Canada have a transmission filter.
I have a 2007 hyundai avante (4-speed automatic, imported from korea)... 76000km almost done without changing transmission oil ... most mechanics say that flushing the system out will destroy the transmission and it shouldn't be changed also they say that u need to change the oil when u need to change the whole transmission .... i watched this video and I really like the way u flushed the system out but I need u're help to know the correct answer about transmission oil and what to do !!?
thank u
so it's better to go and change the transmission oil ASAP !
Is the residual line connected when your flushing the old fluid out? I’m doing a flush on my Hyundai right now.
One line needs to be disconnected to dump the old fluid as you are adding new in (while it is being pumped through).
What is the id of the line/hose you hooked up to the supply line that went into the bucket?
A 2010 is still an HD like this one (2007 - 2010) and is identical. You should be able to get the filter from the dealer like I did. It is definitely a replaceable part.
From the Federal Trade Commission's website - An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work.
Yeah, more G D Government regulations destroying small business in America! Trump'll eliminate that reg!
When sending air through the trans cooler, it might be better to send the air opposite of flow in case theyre any loose particles in the beginning of the cooler. Great vid tho
Agreed. Always good to get as much out as possible.
Buen video..¿No utilizo el ATF que el fabricante indica?
El fabricante ATF funciona. Si quieres lo mejor, utiliza Amsoil.
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hi Jon, we didn't know how to open the hose clamp in your very first steps....Do you have any idea how to do it? thanks!
I always replace the RTV with a real rubber gasket to make future changes easier.. I never had a leak.
Do you have to select RND while flushing to flush out the fluid from the torque converter, or is there always a flow of fluid between the torque converter and the gearbox when in Park ?
There should be a constant flow of fluid, even when in Park.
Fantastic video! I think I'll replace the filter next time I do this. I didn't do that last time because Hyundai says not to and now, 20,000 miles later, I've got some shuddering around 50mph in overdrive. Hopefully my torque converter isn't failing 💀 (car currently has 170,000 miles)
Not sure how inclined I am to complete the step outlined at 12:20, though. It seems messy and a little expensive to buy all that extra fluid. How important do you all think it is to get *all* the old fluid out?
Some new fluid is better than no new fluid...pending you are running the same manufacturer type of fluid. It is best to get all new though. Mixing different brands/types of tranny fluid is not recommended.
@@InsaneOil Thanks for the reply. I decided to drain it all and - sure enough - made quite a mess in the process. The shuddering isn't fixed, either. In fact, it may have gotten worse. I guess I'll take it to a transmission shop now for further diagnosis
@@EscargotGaming what was the outcome?
I replaced the filter ≈1 year ago while doing a fluid change, cleaned the pan, put in a new gasket, etc.
Tedious as hell, but pretty easy.
That didn’t affect the shuddering whatsoever
Then I decided to replace all 4 motor mounts, which reduced the shuddering by ≈80%. It’s definitely still there at certain times, though
I’m pretty sure my torque converter lockup clutch is on its way out, but honestly this car is such a tank and nothing seems to ever break on it, so I’m just guna keep trucking, do regular fluid/filter changes, and hope for the best. Worst case scenario, I’ll just have the torque converter replaced. The car has definitely earned it 🤣
@@EscargotGaming what the update on the beast? haha
Thanks for thorough instructions Jon 🙂
Remember that God loves you Jon, be sure to follow His instructions, ok?
Thanks again for your help 🙂
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with your repair.
Hello Jon.
Could you please tell is the supply line going to the top of the cooler and the return to the gearbox is in the bottom, right?
I am planning on doing this to my girlfriends elantra- but I don’t think it has ever been done to her car. The cars 14 years old and I have heard that if you do a complete flush on a vehicle that hasn’t had it done before it could damage the transmission. Would you recommend a flush or just a change in my scenario?
I recommend a flush if you are doing it as shown in the video where you drop the pan and replace the filter. If you just dump and fill you are leaving all the sludge inside of the tranny from the last 14 years (not to mention the filter wouldn't get changed). I don't recommend using a "back flush machine".
@@jonothejester hi Jon thanks for reply,
I have a new oil filter and 3 quarts of spIII for the change. If I introduce all new fluid to the tranny would it not possibly create issues?
I have been watching videos and if you just do a change you only remove about 40% of the fluid from the tranny with a change opposed to 100% with a flush.
Her elantra only holds 7quarts of fluid and if I just do the change 40% of that is 3 quarts.
If I change the filter and just do a change would it not work better than a complete flush?
Transmission filter*
Also try and put back in what your owners manual calls for which I think is sp3
Some the mechanics is saying dont Flush the Oil but you flush here so which one to Follow? Shall we flush or no?
I don't recommend using a "Flush Machine" AKA "Back-Flush Machine"...I do recommend using a Flush Product, Dropping the Pan, Replacing the Filter, and cleaning the magnet and pan.
I did the flush following procedures except I directly attached the hose to cooler line which send back the cold fluid to transmission and replaced the gasket with rubber gasket which came along with the filter. Everything looks normal and shifting is better than before. The oil level is little bit low, need to buy the same oil and put it.
bsy3ful Which line was that sending cool oil back to trans.? Top hose or bottom hose on cooler? I would of thought bottom?
Which hose is which on the cooler? Top is oil into cooler and bottom is oil out back to trans?
HI WERE CAN YOU HUY THE AMSOIL TRANSMISSION FLUID FROM THATS ALOT
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Good video. Thanks. I'm looking to install a Magnafine inline filter on my Elantra as it has only 600 miles. This will pretty much save the internal filter. And I'll do a simple drain from the plug every 12,000 and replace with Amsoil ATF. This of course is not a complete flush but the filter will provide a cleaner fluid and the intervals will ensure the fluid never reaches exhaustion. Has worked well for my 2002 Odyssey that continues to work like new at 178k miles on what is considered a "glass" tranny by many.
How did the inline filter go?
Looking for help on changing the A/T fluid on a 2009 Hyundai Elantra Touring (hatchback). Can I use this video for that car?
The procedures should be similar.
Any thoughts about using rubber gaskets instead of the RTV? My filter came with one and I've never had any issue with rubber gaskets before but this car may differ.
Awesome thanks. Should I keep the same torque spec? 90 in-lbs?
Man I feel like that dealer tech fed you a bowl of hot, fresh s..t. I have a family relative who works at Kia (same thing). Can confirm they have always done fluid and filter swaps. The pan bolts are torqued to 15nm which is basically hand tight, and the most important step is surface prep to ensure the sealant is not contaminated during the curing process.
That dealer you called either trolled you, or they invested in the snake oil miracle machines, and are trying to earn a return on their investment.
Not sure. Typically, when I have worked with dealers they are helpful in providing me with quality information.
Auto Transmission:
Eyebolt tightening torque: (This is the fluid fill point)
34.3 ~ 44.1 N.m (3.5 ~ 4.5 kgf.m, 25.3 ~ 32.6 lb-ft)
Oil level plug tightening torque: (Note, there is no dipstick)
34.3 ~ 44.1 N.m (3.5 ~ 4.5 kgf.m, 25.3 ~32.6 lb-ft)
Even though there's a dip stick, ya dipstick
Ineed know the name of Auto gear box installed in Hyundai Elantra HD such as 01m in skoda
I had the same issue. From my understanding, Hyundai does not want it's mechanics to drop the pan during a routine transmission service. Instead they use the "backflush machine" method. The Hyundai mechanics I talked with prior to this video even said that Hyundai doesn't state the torque specs for the transmission pan because they don't remove them. I found the transmission filter through Amazon. The manufacturer is Beck Arnley. I called Beck Arnley and they provided me with the specs.
What are the specs?
any problems if we removed the whole ban off without removing the bolt first ??
and when you mean push air in one supply line, will oil get pushed away and collected in the other end of the supply line, or collected on ground (where the transmission filter is?)
what is the automatic transmission filter part number for 2011 tucson?
Thanks for the great informative video. I am an "old school" mechanic and I work on/and fix all of my cars myself. My wife has a 2008 Elantra and 30K miles is the recommended trans fluid change. Your video is excellent and the only critique I have is: will Hyundai honor their warranty if you don't use the Hyundai recommended SP-III Trans oil?? Keep up the good work! -Colly
How would the know what you put in the tranny?
I have a 2010 elantra and It seems that trans filters are not available for this application i.e.it is just a screen that requires cleaning and i haven't found a manufacturer that offers a replacement filter. At the same time, Jon's video features a 2008 elantra and did replace the filter. Is this a difference in the model year, or can you use a cleanable screen or a conventional fiber filter ?
fast forward to ~6:10 and i was rolling! or even earlier "you should probably wear gloves" FLOP, bolt comes off, ATF goes everywhere. reminds me of myself fumbling around with projects. very informative though, thanks!
Hi there! Could you please let me know what the torque specs are for the filter?
I don't recall but I contacted the manufacturer of the filter and they told me.
for the filter 5 to 6 Ft lb, for the pan 7 to 8 ft lb
I have a 99 elantra, if I just drop the trans pan, how much fluid comes out ? just doing a drain an refill only . has 61,000 miles on it , this is the 2nd time im doing it but never removed the pan .
Apologies if this was asked already, but is the service of a 2003 elantra similar to this video? Thanks.
Why do all the parts stores say the filter is not available for my 08 elantra because it's supposedly not serviceable. Are there two different transmissions for an 08 elantra?
How many capacity of automatic transmission fluid of elantra 2007?
2007 Hyundai Elantra has a capacity of 7 quarts. www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-light-truck/2007/hyundai/elantra/2-0l-4-cyl-engine-code-bd-dohc-b/?volume=us-volume?zo=10458
nice 👌 work that's beyond perfect details. thanks for sharing this awesome video 👍
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with your repair.
I had the tranny oil changed at a CAA garage. Oil is leaking from around the drain plug. They said they would have to replace the gasket but it doesn't look like there is a gasket around the plug. Looks to me like it was over tightened and stripped the threads. Mine is a 2009 Elantra. Do you know if there is a gasket around the drain plug.
one question.. where did you buy the transmission filter?
Is this the same on a 2006? Do the 2006 have the same filter
The 2006 should be very similar.
Now thinking about it, you may waste more fluid but I guess running the touque converter oil thought a new filter may be going backwards a little.
great video thank for your time doing it
Thanks for the comment. I hope it helped with your repair.
..Thanks. Another question: where did you get the compressed air gun?
Harbor Freight
hey jon im having a problem locating the oil supply line...i have the same car 08 elantra...is it the top hose or the bottom hose?
he referred to the supply line , do you think he meant the discharge line from the transmission that supplies the cooler , is that just obvious ? I mean I think it is the transmission discharge that is pumping into the the plastic reservoir !
Hi jon: Sorry to bother you but I ran into a problem today... What i had is a hydraulic jack and two jack stands. When I succeeded in jacking the car, I couldn't find the transmission oil pan. There is nothing like 4:38 in your video. Is it in the driver's seat side ? Do I need to remove any cover before seeing it? Sorry we don't have the powerful lifting tools as you did but after all, we are not dealers...how can we afford them. Thanks !
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gotcha , I know what you were doing, i enjoyed the video, that makes it all perfectly clear, thanks,for showing me how it's done !
What's the size of the drainage bolt?
Is this the same process for a Hyundai Sonata 2009?
Process should be very similar if not identical.
What is the size of the hose you pushed on to the hard line while flushing?
Extremely informative. Thank you!
Brother, My advice to you is, not to use any metals like screw drivers or any kind of metal to remove the oil pan, use a plastic tool, some micro scratches, can cause some leaks in future.
Agreed, always try to protect the mating surfaces.
I would say if you are capable of doing the pan and filter the supply and return fluid should be no problem, you may have already done the hard part go ahead and get it done
Super helpful video, thank you very much.
Same process for a 5-speed?
What would make it shift. From of to 3rd and stick on its own?
Prior to completing this repair I experienced the vehicle shifting erratically and slipping, specifically when passing another vehicle on the highway. Poor shifting can often be a result of depleted transmission fluid qualities.
When you are flushing out the torque converter towards the end, do you have the drain hose connected at the top of the cooler? Or before it enters the cooler? Kinda hard for me to see.
Thanks
+Luis Sandoval Im wondering the same thing!
Yes, that should work. You basically just want to push the fluid left in the line back into the pan.
Trying to find out what kind of trans oil I need in an 2009 elantra
For automatic transmission - www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/transmission-fluid/automatic/signature-series-multi-vehicle-synthetic-automatic-transmission-fluid/?code=atfqt-ea?zo=10458
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I would use a SPIII synthetic fluid like Valvoline TransMax or Castrol Multi-Import.
Does any one knows if the automatic transmission for the Hyundai elantra 2008 has a 4speed transmission or a cvt transmission?
thanks for the help :)
there is no cvt with elantras only 4 speed at
great vid.....very helpful and will apply this new knowledge in the future.
is this the same for a 99 elantra ?
6:25 😂😂😂 i hate when that happens
Can I do this with elantra MD 2015 ??
The process should be similar.
My service center told me there was no transmission filter on my 2009 Hyundai Elantra!
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They are too lazy to drop the pan and change the filter. All filters need to be changed eventually. When the time comes, I recommended buying a filter that comes w a pan gasket, instead of using the RTV sealant.
How much liter oil transmition automatic hyundai accent?
What year and engine size?
@@InsaneOil hyundai accent 1999, 12valve 1500cc
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We can also , empty the oil in the torque converter by suction machine... isn't that ?
Great lecture! Thanks a lot!
Have u ever changed brake fluid ?
I will be doing a video on flushing the braking system this summer.
Actually I changed mine...
2 months later my brake pedal started sinking slowly so I changed the master cylinder and once its installed the brake booster started making hissing sound so I changed it too and the problem didn't come to an end until I changed the ABS (without changing its computer chip)
So brake fluid replacement destroyed my braking system and I'm wondering why
I have heard of ABS damage occurring if you use DOT 5 brake fluid rather than DOT 3 or DOT 4. DOT 5 is silicone based compared to DOT 3 and DOT 4 which is glycol-based. I have been using Amsoil's DOT 3 and DOT 4 Synthetic Brake Fluid for about 8 years now and have not had any issues. www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/other-products/brake-fluid/dot-3-and-dot-4-synthetic-brake-fluid/?code=BFLVCN-EA?zo=10458
Every project is a learning experience, and you learn the best when something goes wrong. Thanks for watching.
Inline derale screw on filter is probably a good idea