But why? The point for having this game in the first place was to see exactly how AI treats this opening from both sides of the board. Plus, I don’t think engines can simply “agree to a draw” unless the position is absolutely drawn, with no win possible.
Lo más lógico es que una partida de ajedrez,jugada mediante inteligencia artificial de semejante nivel,siempre termine en tablas. Sin embargo,en esta partida en particular,las máquinas nos quedaron debiendo mucha magia,magia que sí hemos visto en las partidas jugadas entre humanos.
@@WielkiKaleson I agree. I've lost against and and I believe I've won against it once also. I don't really remember clearly how many Fried Liver Attacks I've faced.
When the music stopped and the sound of piece moves started. (just a guess). They could have also shown the move lists starting at 2:40 ~ move ~25? 1 ... Be7
So, what exactly...if anything...does this game teach us? Does it mean that with "perfect" play the Fried Liver Attack ends up in a draw? From a human standpoint, many of the moves made in this game are far from intuitive. And with no move-by-move game analysis or narrative, there's not much to be learned here. Just another exercise in futility!
The key word here (misused?) is “perfectly”…or flawlessly, if there is such a thing in chess. But at least in theory, in a flawlessly played game WHITE should always win…if only by a hair…because white makes the first move. @@nikolaosskordas9159
It was a bad opening for black but managed to draw! If only black have a strong opening it could have won because black have 4 higher value pieces vs a queen and rook!
The openings are defined by humans. AI only start "thinking" after a certain position. Unfortunately, vloggers usually forget to indicate this position. So it may look like AI "stupidly" choses a bad opening. I think here AIs actually were turned on after K:f7
ikr? 5...Nxd5?! is known to be a dubious--if not, bad--move in this opening. I give credit to the AI for even being able to draw this game as Black against Stockfish.
I don’t understand what you just said. “Human moves” are generally considered to be “intuitive” moves…moves that both look and feel “natural” from a human standpoint. On the other hand, “AI” moves (which are supposedly the strongest moves) don’t always look “natural” or intuitive from a human standpoint. In fact, some AI moves appear to be totally irrational…at least on the surface!
Aklımdan o robot çok iyi yüksek elo felan diyorumda sanki 2,3 hamleyi uzun yoldan sonuca varıyor aynı sonucu kısa hamle ile de yapıla biliyor -Destekli analiz değil
@@adriannudelman4519it destroyed it under very specific and unreasonable conditions. They would have drawn every game with full book and reasonable time controls. They basically played bullet.
Hard fought game in one of the oldest and most famous openings. Doubtful that human GMS would have succeeded with Queen vs rook and two bishops as well as Alphazero. Pretty amazing game.
A lot of blunders on both sides? Can you tell us where some of those “blunders” are, and what you think were the correct moves? As I said before, AI/engine moves can be so unintuitive and unnatural looking to humans, that it’s almost impossible for us to fully understand what’s going on!
7:53 computer mind didn't see the queen sacrifice to take the bishop e6, then promote the pawn to queen g8 plus tempo check to king if king is to take the sacrificial queen in e6
@@gigagargantuar5472The computer sees it but it thinks that after g8Q promotion, black Kd7, and both the pawn on a4 can be saved and the b king has time to walk over there, while the white king will never be able to enter the queen side, which it is a draw.
Emotions were running high between these two.
They’re computers. They don’t have feelings.
Oh, man, you should've seen those chips shivering, those transistors melting...@@jordandesmet6593
@@jordandesmet6593 open a dictionary and find the word "irony"
Good catch
Все посмеялись над шуткой, но как обычно нашлись те, кто ничего не понял ))
computers should have agreed to a draw before the first piece was moved
But why? The point for having this game in the first place was to see exactly how AI treats this opening from both sides of the board. Plus, I don’t think engines can simply “agree to a draw” unless the position is absolutely drawn, with no win possible.
@@vcliburn because it's a waste of time. it will always end in a draw
@@vcliburntake a joke
@@michaelmoran4420 some computers are better than others
An extremely hard-fought draw.
Conclusion perfect game=DRAW
Lo más lógico es que una partida de ajedrez,jugada mediante inteligencia artificial de semejante nivel,siempre termine en tablas. Sin embargo,en esta partida en particular,las máquinas nos quedaron debiendo mucha magia,magia que sí hemos visto en las partidas jugadas entre humanos.
Why would you cover the end game with a thumbnail in the centre?!
The stupidity of TH-cam.
So annoying.
Excellent game. That Fried Liver attack is devastating but it can be resisted successfully, that's great to know.
it can ----> probably it might
@@WielkiKaleson I agree. I've lost against and and I believe I've won against it once also. I don't really remember clearly how many Fried Liver Attacks I've faced.
@TheThinkersBible Don't you know Polerio Defence? It's not good to face Fried River Attack. Try Polerio Defence.(5...Na5)
It is impossible for human to do such strong moves when your king is under attack!
Yeah! It is a damn difficult opening for both sides
@Chess Lesson: Please try to indicate at which move AI is turned on.
When the music stopped and the sound of piece moves started. (just a guess). They could have also shown the move lists starting at 2:40 ~ move ~25? 1 ... Be7
So, what exactly...if anything...does this game teach us? Does it mean that with "perfect" play the Fried Liver Attack ends up in a draw? From a human standpoint, many of the moves made in this game are far from intuitive. And with no move-by-move game analysis or narrative, there's not much to be learned here. Just another exercise in futility!
If played perfectly, theoretically, all chess games should end in a draw.
What do you mean exactly
Должны заканчиваться всегда победой черных, если компы, когда-либо досчитаюто@@christopherpavlicas
No . Theoretically we don't know if all games played perfectly would end in a draw
The key word here (misused?) is “perfectly”…or flawlessly, if there is such a thing in chess. But at least in theory, in a flawlessly played game WHITE should always win…if only by a hair…because white makes the first move. @@nikolaosskordas9159
Who is stockfish and alpazero on this match?
AI
It was a bad opening for black but managed to draw! If only black have a strong opening it could have won because black have 4 higher value pieces vs a queen and rook!
The openings are defined by humans. AI only start "thinking" after a certain position. Unfortunately, vloggers usually forget to indicate this position. So it may look like AI "stupidly" choses a bad opening. I think here AIs actually were turned on after K:f7
ikr? 5...Nxd5?! is known to be a dubious--if not, bad--move in this opening. I give credit to the AI for even being able to draw this game as Black against Stockfish.
Beautiful game, thank you
The Fried Liver Attack could get you a draw if not checkmated 😊
Fried liver attack is a damn sharp and difficult opening both for black and white
7:53 white couldve just taken bishop e6 with queen
Yeah that's what amateurs will do.
I fail to see why not
And then after taking the Bishop ?
The same result Q vs R+B
But white is play for a win
You get the exact same position. Who cares
None of the engines have near 4000 ELO. SF 16 has 3600-ish in classic chess.
for smart computers - chess game is no longer a game, just an aggravated X0 puzzle
thank you very much
Точно дьявольская игра, точно Фрэд жив атака!
Uploader is tired of editing so you guys guest whos black or white😅😅😅
6:50 por qué la torre no come el peón?
El blanco aprovecha los dos alfiles clavados para coronar y negras perderian torre por 2 peones.
I thought some moves were questionable (especially when they’re move was what I would’ve done) but the end game was interesting.
if you understan ai you will know all ai moves are human moves
I don’t understand what you just said. “Human moves” are generally considered to be “intuitive” moves…moves that both look and feel “natural” from a human standpoint. On the other hand, “AI” moves (which are supposedly the strongest moves) don’t always look “natural” or intuitive from a human standpoint. In fact, some AI moves appear to be totally irrational…at least on the surface!
aint there a pgn to analyze "at home"? would be great.
Ini partai gila yang pernah saya saksikan 😂
The last seconds advert is really annoying 😂
the one with queen is stockfish
Why didn't White develop the pawns?
Fascinated til the end but disappointed when no checkmate..
Aklımdan o robot çok iyi yüksek elo felan diyorumda sanki 2,3 hamleyi uzun yoldan sonuca varıyor aynı sonucu kısa hamle ile de yapıla biliyor
-Destekli analiz değil
Beautiful!
That's the ultimate fortress
Attack vs defence
I like it, bot vs bot.
Which stockfish, which alphazero?.
The MIDI soundtrack makes me have less chance of benifitting
It was my understanding that Alpha Zero was no longer utilized to play chess - where future Google AI would be future iterations of the design.
This isn’t Alpha Zero. Maybe Leela Zero
@@kingsolo6241 Yup, is Leela. ALpha Zero destroyed to engine Stockfish everytime.
@@adriannudelman4519it destroyed it under very specific and unreasonable conditions. They would have drawn every game with full book and reasonable time controls. They basically played bullet.
Hard fought game in one of the oldest and most famous openings. Doubtful that human GMS would have succeeded with Queen vs rook and two bishops as well as Alphazero. Pretty amazing game.
Not me vibing
with the song
Several suboptimal moves
Ficamos para trás.
I often don't understand chess moves. And and? - AI!
10.3
Kenapa tidak chek lalu makan benteng dan pion promosi
What I thought white was winning
I´ve also thought. But Black had to much pieces.
BECAUSE white started with e4
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Yes, chess what no human can play. Unfortunataly the both engines play so good, that too much draws appears.
Permainan yang sulit di tonton atau di pahami
Es falso....donde están los análisis o cuando y donde jugaron? No hay ninguna jugada d super módulo....😅😅😅😅😅
оба зевали Пропускали взятие
😊
My computer says they are stupid
afinal quem e as brancas e quem e as pretas
Quién juega con blancas?
Рубилово до последнего
26.Qf4?? better is 26.g4
Ничья, дружба победила🤝😊
Bunlarda önce başlayan kazanıyo genelde
Playing for draw.
NO Elo 4000
Do not drop this melody in the middle of the game, please.
1100
Sensacional!!!!
кто есть кто???🤲🤔
A lot of blunders from both sides.
A lot of blunders on both sides? Can you tell us where some of those “blunders” are, and what you think were the correct moves? As I said before, AI/engine moves can be so unintuitive and unnatural looking to humans, that it’s almost impossible for us to fully understand what’s going on!
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New discipline - gaychess😂
100%. But it's not new
Who’s white?!
mute the stupid music for a much more enjoyable experience!
8:23 qween g5!
Its saved
7:53 computer mind didn't see the queen sacrifice to take the bishop e6, then promote the pawn to queen g8 plus tempo check to king if king is to take the sacrificial queen in e6
@@gigagargantuar5472The computer sees it but it thinks that after g8Q promotion, black Kd7, and both the pawn on a4 can be saved and the b king has time to walk over there, while the white king will never be able to enter the queen side, which it is a draw.
Both were playing for a draw.
Thats non an engine haha thats a big bullshit
Draw
These guys are not very good !
Perdí mi tiempo viendo ésto 🤮
Мда.....
This is 4000 elo? StarCraft way better
Fake
No fake. This is chess of a very, very high level. Mostly the moves are so deep, that human can not really understand it.
@@petersiegfriedkrug Moves weren't deep. Moves were edgy. When AI wants the win too bad, all they get is a draw.
It’s all absurd but the most is the stupid and nearly idiotic music …
Boring😢
Computers in chess ? Futility is excellent word, dislike
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Fake