I was at the game Pitkanen shattered his heel. I vividly remember hearing the thud and him screaming in pain (since the canes unfortunately had a pretty empty arena during this time). He was a solid all around defenceman too and it's real unfortunate his career ended that way
It's so crazy looking back and thinking how we didn't move to hybrid icing sooner. Especially considering that as rough as the Pitkanen play was, it wasn't even as bad as some of the hits that came from icing plays where guys just got drilled into the boards with no real way to protect themselves because of having to make a play on the puck.
Capitals first rounder Pat Peake shattered his heel on a similar play in the 90s and was never the same. Definitely took too long for the rule to change.
I did basically the same thing in a beer league game and shattered the end of my left tibia and broke my left fibula, as well. Three plates, 20 screws and a year of rehab and I was back on skates, for one time, just to say I did. Haven't even skated recreationally very much since them. With a skate boot on, my leg from the knee down to the ankle swells up on one side and kind of caves in on the other and no longer looks like part of a leg. Now, I did that skating at "beer league speed." I can't imagine what it must have been like for Pitkanen at the time of his injury and going forward. He was skating at "NHL full-tilt speed" when he got hurt. Every time I see an NHLer slam into the boards skate blade first, I still cringe and hope they can get up and skate away. Breaking the tibia in such a way as I did is very bad...breaking your calcaneous (heel) is much worse. In almost every case it will be a career ending injury.
I was too young to remember this but it's still so sad. Pitkanen was a name I knew well as a canes fan and I didn't know this ended his career so it just makes it all the more upsetting
*1st one. Learn the rulebook.* The stick does NOT have to contact the head for a major to be called. It's solely at the discretion of a ref. The game misconduct is automatically assessed whenever a crosscheck major is called.
A couple more ideas for round 2 -Bill Masterton's tragic end (though that did take a long time before they made helmets mandatory) -Sean Avery turning his back to the play to distract Brodeur -Matt Duchesne's offside goal that made offside reviews a thing -Brett Hull's 1999 Cup clincher that eliminated the no foot in crease rule for good -Martin Brodeur's trapezoid -honorable mention to David Leggio who knocked the net off intentionally on a two-on-zero in the AHL. It lead to a penalty shot, which is arguably a better outcome for him and made the save. The league immediately closed that loophole after that... kinda: the goalie would get a game misconduct, and anyone on the ice can take a penalty shot on the backup goalie.
Let's add another one, waaaay older: There was a time where a two-minute minor penalty wouldn't end upon the team on power play scoring a goal. What I heard is that ended when Jean Béliveau, a Montreal Canadiens all-time great, scored an actual hat trick during one single power play. They then thought it was being ridiculous, and stated that if a team on a power play were to score a goal, the power play would end then and there.
Here's another one. The Rob Ray rule, requiring that hockey sweaters be tied down so that they can't/won't come off during a fight, thus freeing up their arms to throw punches at will and pummel their opponents.
Also my dad told me that way back in the fifties the 2 minute minor did not expire when a goal was scored. The Montreal Canadians were so stacked that they often scored more than one goal in a power play. The rule was changed shortly after
Yes, and it was the Bruins organization that forced it. I'm a huge Bruins fan, but it's a little embarrassing to admit Rocket Richard is just too good.
There wasn’t an individual player that changed that though. The Devils are the team everyone points at for it, but many teams were playing that way by the end of the 90s.
Don't forget about how Osgood is why they shovel the ice now during breaks after he stacked all the snow on the goalline during a penalty shot and it stopped a puck from going in
How about Roger Nielson causing the rule change that when a goalie leaves the net they can't leave their stick behind blocking the net. He also put out a defenseman instead of a goalie for penalty shots causing that rule to be changed and late in games while defending leads he'd intentionally take too many men on the ice penalties every few seconds since a team couldn't drop below 3 skaters on the ice.
With the Krug thing the play that purposely removed Krug's helmet should have got a penalty, so the play should have never advanced long for him to throw that check.
the reason teams dont switch sides in overtime is because of billy smith. 1983/84 was the first year of reg season overtime and the teams would switch sides like they do in the playoffs . billy smith knowing that the ice would not be cleaned by the zambonie would take his skates and chop up the ice in his crease right before the 3 rd period ended so when they switched sides the opposing goalie would have to play the 5 min overtime in a crease that had chopped ice. pretty brilliant lol
Interesting, considering this has since been undone to force “the long change”. I would’ve thought a choppy crease would slow pucks and be a defensive advantage?
You got me curious. Here are the ages of the goalies to have won the Calder trophy. 1935-36 Mike Karakas 25 1938-39 Frank Brimsek 25 1944-45 Frank McCool 26 1949-50 Jack Gelineau 25 1950-51 Terry Sawchuk 21 1952-53 Lorne Gump Worsley 23 1955-56 Glenn Hall 24 1964-65 Roger Crozier 23 1969-70 Tony Esposito 27 1971-72 Ken Dryden 24 1983-84 Tom Barrasso 19 1990-91 Ed Belfour 25 1993-94 Martin Brodeur 22 2000-01 Evgeni Nabokov 25 2003-04 Andrew Raycroft 23 2008-09 Steve Mason 20 Making it even 1 year younger would definitely have disqualified several goalies. Only 1 teenager goalie has ever won!
I remember before that icing call got changed, it was the same for youth hockey players and kids were brutal with that, I still have a scar on my face from going head first into the boards when a kid hit me
The rules all make sense except for the goaltender one. I could see a coach forbidding his goalie from crossing the red line, but why would the league step in?
They changed the rule because of the additional protection that goalies get. They aren't allowed to be hit or handled like a normal player even outside the crease. They wanted to eliminate the ability of a player to hit the goalie and change the game as well as eliminate the potential for the goalie to carry the puck and try to garner additional penalties against the other team. Basically it was to avoid a situation like the NFL has right now with quarterbacks and no one being able to figure out if they are a runner or still a passer when they bolt from the pocket and get hit. You can't have all the protections of a goaltender out in middle ice handling the puck. However, if you aren't given those protections (being slow and a big target) then very bad things can happen and games can get out of control.
Thanks for explaining the Gretzky rule. I’ve been watching hockey a few years now, and I was always wondering why they didn’t go to four on four with offsetting penalties.
Even the 4-on-4-rule was later taken a back a bit. Now if there is one minor for each team when teams are on full strength, they continue 4-on-4. In other situations coincidental penalties are not going to the scoreboard.
I was just thinking I missed touch icing but I hadn't known about the Pitkanen injury. That's very unfortunate. I thought it was more along the lines to reduce major hits against the boards.
Touch icing is stupid and dangerous. Pitkanen was lucky compared to Luděk Čajka who died from a fall while chasing the puck in 1990. IIHF got rid of touch icing immediately. If the NHL cared about the players they would have had got rid of it in 1990 as well.
The knights were getting 5 minutes there no matter what. Even if the refs reviewed the play they would stand with 5 minutes. Very easy to look back and change you opinion, but in the moment after watching someone get dropped on their head and bleed, they’re calling for a major.
"Gretzky and the darn Oilers" then the video proceeds to show us Gretzky wearing #9 for Canada in the 1978 world juniors and the next clip with the Rangers on that nice wraparound, completing a hat trick (maybe his last one).
Don't forget that the Habs in the 60s(?)--when they were the dominant, dynastic team--2 minute minors were a full two minutes, regardless of if the team on the PP scored. The Habs were scoring too much, so they changed that to what we see today.
But if it had happened to the Sharks everyone would’ve rioted saying the league is rigged for the Knights. I guess that’s just the reputation the Knights have built since they entered the league that may rub some people the wrong way.
Big whoop about hybrid icing. International competition (as well as high school and college) has always used automatic icing. Jesus Christ, automatic icing in high school, college and international hockey has been around long before the rule change regarding hybrid icing.
Thanks for the video, very informative. However, I was expecting to see the Sean Avery rule. During the playoffs between the Rangers and the Devils (can't remember the year), Sean Avery would stand in front on Marty Brodeur, facing him, and thus, turning his back on the play. He would gesture constantly in front of Brodeur's face to annoy him and block his view. The NHL issued a rule during the offseason that states that you have to face the action. th-cam.com/video/Ec_2oKWe2Gw/w-d-xo.html
The fact that replays being able to affect calls wasn't a thing the second the tech was made available is ridiculous. I love this sport but the officiating is just so lackluster compared to so many other sports
Michigan tech caused the NCAA to remove a rule that gave automatic game misconducts for majors after they lost their best player in the first few minutes of a quarterfinal game due to getting ejected after a play that was not worth a game misconduct
First one, he hit a defenceless player high with a cheap shot. 5 minutes was a good call. Makarov wasn’t a first year player, he was a first year NHL player. He had played at the highest levels for over a decade. While I am a huge fan of Sergei Makarov, he had no business being considered as a Calder candidate. Krug left his feet. That wasn’t a clean hit. It wasn’t the Gretzky rule, it was the Glen Sather rule. And it was chickenshit, just like the trapezoid and not permitting skilled goalies to play the puck in most of the space behind the goal line.
I hate it when people say that it shouldn’t have been a five minute major against Cody Eakin. That was the correct call, if I had to make any changes to it, it would’ve gone to Paul stasney instead, but it was a five minute major nonetheless
The icing rule should have been changed in 1994 and probably before when Michel Goulet lost his career with of the worst concussion ever. That's the first huge injury I remember from icings
My uncle broke his back ending his nhl career touching an icing 84-85 season playing for blackhawks in a game vs northstars. No touch icing is much better rule.
It sounds like the goalie not passing center ice rule was implemented to save chicken shit goals from the opposing team if they got the puck and shot while the goalie was still out fucking around. If the tendy is gonna go for a skate and leave his net open, fair game. “If you’re a goaltender, TEND THE GOAL!”
On #6 on your list. I don't think the refs messed up as badly as you think. VGK got 5 minutes for senseless violence. For being stupid. If you don't think that's fair, how about 5 on 3 for a full 2 minutes. Both Stastny and Eakin were guilty of penalties. Or a 4 minute double minor for blood drawn on the collisions. And if you hate all that, how about kill the penalty? The first Couture goal was 4 seconds in. Maybe call a timeout? No? Maybe a timeout after goal 2? Maybe don't blow a 3-1 series lead? Maybe don't yield a SHG GWG in double OT in game 6 at home up 3-2 in the series. I think VGK got way too much pity and management showed their true colours.
those icing injuries were further exacerbated by the trapezoid restriction that prohibits the goalie from playing the puck in the corner. I always hated the stupid trapezoid rule.
Age shouldn't matter for "Rookie" status. I think the goalies should be allowed to carry the puck up the ice. If they start carrying it up the ice, they should be open to receiving hits though. The rule changes I would like to see are: -Stricter enforcement of Instigator calls. If you start a fight(slashing/crosschecking at someone to get them to fight), you get tossed from the game. -Icing gets waived off if the puck goes through the blue paint of the crease -Removal of regular season shoot-out
Sorry the cross check where it was to his face or not was the direct cause of him losing balance and the hitting his head. The call on the ice was correct like it or not. And don't bother I'm not a fan of either team.
The age limit for calder is stupid. It should just be you can't have played for another professional league. Also.... glad to see i wasnt the only one annoyed by the Makarov pronunciation
the sharks did not just get 4 goals in that game. They battled hard as hell and deserved it. In the next series the sharks got a 5 minute major penalty against the avs and sweeped it of like it was nothing. The 5 minute major is not an excuse to let in 4 goals like that in a game 7.
Wait a second here.... That Krug hit was not clean... The contact was 'clean' sure. But he skated 150 accelerating the whole way down the ice to that hit. That is called charging and is not legal...
The rookie age cutoff was a kneejerk reaction and a bad decision. It should be based on pro or international experience. Makarov played in the Soviet league for a decade (plus several olympics), which should have disqualified him. Most rookies are age 18-20 and have played since age 6, or 12-14 years. But imagine someone who NEVER played (even in PeeWee) starts playing for fun at age 20 in rec leagues, turns out to be a natural, then plays college hockey, the ECHL and the AHL, and makes the NHL by 28. That person has less playing experience than a 20 year old, but wouldn't be eligible.
About Vegas Golden Knights vs San Jose... I wish I could have sympathy for the Knights in this one. I can't. I'm pretty much with UrinatingTree on this one albeit in a far less cruel and disrespectful manner since they're my 4th favorite team. The Referees screwed both teams in albeit near equal fashions, but Vegas didn't do themselves any favors. They deserved to lose, end of story. 1] Vegas received an almost as good call in game 2 on goaltender interference that went in their favor that shouldn't have. They rallied afterwards and won game 2, 3, and 4 2] The did nothing in game 5 3] They couldn't solve Martin Jones in Game 6 despite savagely outplaying San Jose. When the game went to overtime tied at 1 [I think] only to have Vegas let the softest goal on their own power-play with all the momentum in the world. This game never should have went to overtime. 4] They were up 3-0 in the third, and then cross-checked someone, and in a freak accident, the player was bleeding and badly hurt. 5 minute major. They could have done a better job on the penalty kill. If that happened the game never would have made it to overtime, and Vegas would have won. Vegas had FAR too many chances to get the job done and didn't. I don't feel sorry for the bad call that costed Vegas, not with all these factors in play.
The rookie age rule is stupid. Being a rookie has nothing to do with your age. Whether you’re 18 or 48. Being a rookie is strictly denoting your FIRST YEAR IN THE LEAGUE. Your rookie year. I don’t care if you’re 20, or you’re 50 - if it’s your first inaugural year in the league, then you’re a rookie - end of story. When you hit your second season in the league, you’re no longer a rookie. Literally the definition of the word “rookie” is: a new recruit, especially in the army or police. "a rookie cop" *a member of an athletic team in his or her first full season in that sport.*
Exactly! This restriction makes sense in European leagues where players change enormously and many stars make careers elsewhere before settling in a European country playing their last years (also European born players these days) but not in NHL where the best players are already in by default. Guess they just wanted it to be a junior award in the first place without creating another trophy.
Makarov, not Markov
I was just going to comment this.
Remember, no Russian
Can pronounce Nieuwendyk but not Makarov, go figure 😂
Just like Cale Makar, but with an "ov", at the end!
LOL he put Makarov in text but still said "Markov".
I was at the game Pitkanen shattered his heel. I vividly remember hearing the thud and him screaming in pain (since the canes unfortunately had a pretty empty arena during this time). He was a solid all around defenceman too and it's real unfortunate his career ended that way
It's so crazy looking back and thinking how we didn't move to hybrid icing sooner. Especially considering that as rough as the Pitkanen play was, it wasn't even as bad as some of the hits that came from icing plays where guys just got drilled into the boards with no real way to protect themselves because of having to make a play on the puck.
Capitals first rounder Pat Peake shattered his heel on a similar play in the 90s and was never the same. Definitely took too long for the rule to change.
Pitkanen was not the only reason, Justin Schultz of the oilers had a career changing knee injury that also was a deciding factor.
I did basically the same thing in a beer league game and shattered the end of my left tibia and broke my left fibula, as well. Three plates, 20 screws and a year of rehab and I was back on skates, for one time, just to say I did. Haven't even skated recreationally very much since them. With a skate boot on, my leg from the knee down to the ankle swells up on one side and kind of caves in on the other and no longer looks like part of a leg. Now, I did that skating at "beer league speed." I can't imagine what it must have been like for Pitkanen at the time of his injury and going forward. He was skating at "NHL full-tilt speed" when he got hurt. Every time I see an NHLer slam into the boards skate blade first, I still cringe and hope they can get up and skate away. Breaking the tibia in such a way as I did is very bad...breaking your calcaneous (heel) is much worse. In almost every case it will be a career ending injury.
I was too young to remember this but it's still so sad. Pitkanen was a name I knew well as a canes fan and I didn't know this ended his career so it just makes it all the more upsetting
*1st one. Learn the rulebook.*
The stick does NOT have to contact the head for a major to be called. It's solely at the discretion of a ref. The game misconduct is automatically assessed whenever a crosscheck major is called.
A couple more ideas for round 2
-Bill Masterton's tragic end (though that did take a long time before they made helmets mandatory)
-Sean Avery turning his back to the play to distract Brodeur
-Matt Duchesne's offside goal that made offside reviews a thing
-Brett Hull's 1999 Cup clincher that eliminated the no foot in crease rule for good
-Martin Brodeur's trapezoid
-honorable mention to David Leggio who knocked the net off intentionally on a two-on-zero in the AHL. It lead to a penalty shot, which is arguably a better outcome for him and made the save. The league immediately closed that loophole after that... kinda: the goalie would get a game misconduct, and anyone on the ice can take a penalty shot on the backup goalie.
Let's add another one, waaaay older: There was a time where a two-minute minor penalty wouldn't end upon the team on power play scoring a goal. What I heard is that ended when Jean Béliveau, a Montreal Canadiens all-time great, scored an actual hat trick during one single power play. They then thought it was being ridiculous, and stated that if a team on a power play were to score a goal, the power play would end then and there.
Here's another one. The Rob Ray rule, requiring that hockey sweaters be tied down so that they can't/won't come off during a fight, thus freeing up their arms to throw punches at will and pummel their opponents.
@Tom Hull Good one! Also, him losing his jersey also meant that opposing players had a much harder time to get a grip on his sweaty torso!
Thanks, I was just thinking of Avery and Brodeur
Wait moving the goal on purpose at a breakaway or a good chance does not lead to an automatic goal (in the nhl/ahl at least)?
Also my dad told me that way back in the fifties the 2 minute minor did not expire when a goal was scored. The Montreal Canadians were so stacked that they often scored more than one goal in a power play. The rule was changed shortly after
Yes, and it was the Bruins organization that forced it. I'm a huge Bruins fan, but it's a little embarrassing to admit Rocket Richard is just too good.
Everyone talks about how dangerous the Krug hit was, but nobody talks about how he got his helmet ripped off.
He was getting ridden like a horse
That should have been a penalty.
Huge blues fan and i agree lol
Ripping a person's helmet off is a penalty now... so don't worry.
That hit should have been called a charging call on Krug. He also intentionally left his feet to make that hit too.
The MLB still has the same ROY issue with established superstars from overseas
Great video but as mentioned, his name is Makarov not Markov. You may want to re-record the audio for that part
You forgot the elimination of the red line on 2 line pass offside rule that came as the result of the neutral zone trap. That was a massive one.
There wasn’t an individual player that changed that though. The Devils are the team everyone points at for it, but many teams were playing that way by the end of the 90s.
Dead puck era. Everyone is glad it's gone.
@@dantran9962 some are glad***
Yeah getting rid of the 2 line pass really opened hockey up.
I actually liked the dead puck Era. I loved the tactics.
Don't forget about how Osgood is why they shovel the ice now during breaks after he stacked all the snow on the goalline during a penalty shot and it stopped a puck from going in
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.
How about Roger Nielson causing the rule change that when a goalie leaves the net they can't leave their stick behind blocking the net. He also put out a defenseman instead of a goalie for penalty shots causing that rule to be changed and late in games while defending leads he'd intentionally take too many men on the ice penalties every few seconds since a team couldn't drop below 3 skaters on the ice.
As a Sabre fan, I am continually impressed by our junk yard dog, vicious defense we always play as evidenced at 5:48!
5:44 Makarov, not Markov. Markov was a mathematician. Makarov was a great hockey player.
With the Krug thing the play that purposely removed Krug's helmet should have got a penalty, so the play should have never advanced long for him to throw that check.
the reason teams dont switch sides in overtime is because of billy smith. 1983/84 was the first year of reg season overtime and the teams would switch sides like they do in the playoffs . billy smith knowing that the ice would not be cleaned by the zambonie would take his skates and chop up the ice in his crease right before the 3 rd period ended so when they switched sides the opposing goalie would have to play the 5 min overtime in a crease that had chopped ice. pretty brilliant lol
Interesting, considering this has since been undone to force “the long change”. I would’ve thought a choppy crease would slow pucks and be a defensive advantage?
@@yabbaguy it was so the other goalie would have problems moving
IF IT WAS ANY YOUNGER FOR CALDER WE WILL NEVER SEE A GOALIE TAKE IT HOME AGAIN
You got me curious. Here are the ages of the goalies to have won the Calder trophy.
1935-36 Mike Karakas 25
1938-39 Frank Brimsek 25
1944-45 Frank McCool 26
1949-50 Jack Gelineau 25
1950-51 Terry Sawchuk 21
1952-53 Lorne Gump Worsley 23
1955-56 Glenn Hall 24
1964-65 Roger Crozier 23
1969-70 Tony Esposito 27
1971-72 Ken Dryden 24
1983-84 Tom Barrasso 19
1990-91 Ed Belfour 25
1993-94 Martin Brodeur 22
2000-01 Evgeni Nabokov 25
2003-04 Andrew Raycroft 23
2008-09 Steve Mason 20
Making it even 1 year younger would definitely have disqualified several goalies. Only 1 teenager goalie has ever won!
Tom Barrasso! One of my fave Pens goalies
Geez his name is Mak-a-rov. Said Markov like 10 times. Solid vid but come on dude. This guy was a game changer
No Rob Ray jersey rule or Martin Brodeur trapezoid rule?
something i find interesting about Pitkänen's case is the irony of his name
icing is called "pitkä" (literally "long") in Finnish which he is
I remember before that icing call got changed, it was the same for youth hockey players and kids were brutal with that, I still have a scar on my face from going head first into the boards when a kid hit me
The rules all make sense except for the goaltender one. I could see a coach forbidding his goalie from crossing the red line, but why would the league step in?
They changed the rule because of the additional protection that goalies get. They aren't allowed to be hit or handled like a normal player even outside the crease. They wanted to eliminate the ability of a player to hit the goalie and change the game as well as eliminate the potential for the goalie to carry the puck and try to garner additional penalties against the other team.
Basically it was to avoid a situation like the NFL has right now with quarterbacks and no one being able to figure out if they are a runner or still a passer when they bolt from the pocket and get hit. You can't have all the protections of a goaltender out in middle ice handling the puck. However, if you aren't given those protections (being slow and a big target) then very bad things can happen and games can get out of control.
Would have been nice to see a commentary on Sean Avery and his stick waving in the face of the opposing goalie during the PP. generated a new rule!
Thanks for explaining the Gretzky rule. I’ve been watching hockey a few years now, and I was always wondering why they didn’t go to four on four with offsetting penalties.
Rule change or not, the Knights meltdown was awesome.
what about Marty Brodeur and the Trapezoid
Even the 4-on-4-rule was later taken a back a bit. Now if there is one minor for each team when teams are on full strength, they continue 4-on-4. In other situations coincidental penalties are not going to the scoreboard.
i believe the idea behind a 26 years old cutoff was for goalies, seeing as most goalies come in much later than position players
Who the hell is Markov?
What about the trapezoid behind the goal line? That's basically due to Martin Brodeur.
If a team blows a 3-0 lead in 3 minutes that’s their own damn fault, regardless on how unfair the penalty might be.
I was just thinking I missed touch icing but I hadn't known about the Pitkanen injury. That's very unfortunate. I thought it was more along the lines to reduce major hits against the boards.
Touch icing is stupid and dangerous. Pitkanen was lucky compared to Luděk Čajka who died from a fall while chasing the puck in 1990. IIHF got rid of touch icing immediately. If the NHL cared about the players they would have had got rid of it in 1990 as well.
NHL brass where to cocktail and proud. Don Cherry was bugging them for years to remove touch icing which is probably why they didn't.
The knights were getting 5 minutes there no matter what. Even if the refs reviewed the play they would stand with 5 minutes. Very easy to look back and change you opinion, but in the moment after watching someone get dropped on their head and bleed, they’re calling for a major.
Mak-arov. Not Markov.
Krug. Perron should get 5 min. For removing Krugs helmet.
Say it with me…Mak-A-rov
Rob Ray rule if there's a part 2!
Why they didn’t mention that in the first place I will never know.
"Gretzky and the darn Oilers" then the video proceeds to show us Gretzky wearing #9 for Canada in the 1978 world juniors and the next clip with the Rangers on that nice wraparound, completing a hat trick (maybe his last one).
Half of this shit is a joke
It's Makarov, not Markov.
"Sergei Markov"? C'mon man, he's a Hall of Famer, pronounce his name right. It's "muh-KAR-ov"
Impressive how you managed to get Makarov's name wrong every single time, even when it's spelled out right in front of you.
You forgot martin Brodeur he's the reason why visors cant be different color anymore
What happened?
Hey. Your a really great TH-camr. Keep it up!
You’re
@@notveryobviousguy4373 grammar nazi.
@@notveryobviousguy4373 *You’re* a Nerd
Mark Tinordi was a Minnesota / Dallas Star player who broke his ankle skating in to the Boards to get a icing call that we never the same after play .
Don't forget that the Habs in the 60s(?)--when they were the dominant, dynastic team--2 minute minors were a full two minutes, regardless of if the team on the PP scored. The Habs were scoring too much, so they changed that to what we see today.
Even though i agree on the Vegas call as a Sharks fan, acting like Vegas has nothing on themselves to blame for the 4 goals against is hilarious…
But if it had happened to the Sharks everyone would’ve rioted saying the league is rigged for the Knights. I guess that’s just the reputation the Knights have built since they entered the league that may rub some people the wrong way.
Big whoop about hybrid icing. International competition (as well as high school and college) has always used automatic icing. Jesus Christ, automatic icing in high school, college and international hockey has been around long before the rule change regarding hybrid icing.
Also the Rob Ray rule where you can't remove your equipment to fight better
I came to the comments to see if anyone else knew of this rule
the best time watching hockey was in the 70's, no helmet rule yet, watching Guy Lafluer flying up the ice.
How are you going to sit there with the name MAKAROV in front of you and repeatedly call him Markov?
Generally speaking audio is recorded first in 99% of videos like this
Thanks for the video, very informative. However, I was expecting to see the Sean Avery rule. During the playoffs between the Rangers and the Devils (can't remember the year), Sean Avery would stand in front on Marty Brodeur, facing him, and thus, turning his back on the play. He would gesture constantly in front of Brodeur's face to annoy him and block his view. The NHL issued a rule during the offseason that states that you have to face the action. th-cam.com/video/Ec_2oKWe2Gw/w-d-xo.html
how dare you bring up Roy centre ice without also saying how he DEKED THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER. that spin move was against Gretzky.
L.o.L...
I am surprised that you didn't mention the offside reviews, created by Matt Duchen completely offside accident
They also added space behind the net so that Gretzky would have more place in his "office".
Gretzky, Messier, Kurri and Coffey against any other 4 players was MURDER ! Even the old Boston Garden Ice was too big for that 4 on 4 matchup !
That icing rule should have been changed after Pat Peake ended his career in the 90's!!! Ridiculous
Yeah so Cody Eakin or whatever… but also Vegas allowed 4 goals.
It's insane how everything lined up for gretzky to get the records he has. It's even more impressive Ovi is almost near his goal totals.
In one category. How many does Gretzky hold?
Gary Smith over here giving Steve Dangle convulsions from the past.
The fact that replays being able to affect calls wasn't a thing the second the tech was made available is ridiculous. I love this sport but the officiating is just so lackluster compared to so many other sports
Vegas lost because they didn't play boxplay like an team. Letting in 4 goals in 5min is just brutally bad. They can only blame themselves
Michigan tech caused the NCAA to remove a rule that gave automatic game misconducts for majors after they lost their best player in the first few minutes of a quarterfinal game due to getting ejected after a play that was not worth a game misconduct
Not how I wish a Canes legend ends up in the books. Dude deserved better.
First one, he hit a defenceless player high with a cheap shot.
5 minutes was a good call.
Makarov wasn’t a first year player, he was a first year NHL player. He had played at the highest levels for over a decade.
While I am a huge fan of Sergei Makarov, he had no business being considered as a Calder candidate.
Krug left his feet. That wasn’t a clean hit.
It wasn’t the Gretzky rule, it was the Glen Sather rule. And it was chickenshit, just like the trapezoid and not permitting skilled goalies to play the puck in most of the space behind the goal line.
How are you going to leave out the Brodeur rule?
I hate it when people say that it shouldn’t have been a five minute major against Cody Eakin. That was the correct call, if I had to make any changes to it, it would’ve gone to Paul stasney instead, but it was a five minute major nonetheless
The icing rule should have been changed in 1994 and probably before when Michel Goulet lost his career with of the worst concussion ever. That's the first huge injury I remember from icings
My uncle broke his back ending his nhl career touching an icing 84-85 season playing for blackhawks in a game vs northstars. No touch icing is much better rule.
It sounds like the goalie not passing center ice rule was implemented to save chicken shit goals from the opposing team if they got the puck and shot while the goalie was still out fucking around. If the tendy is gonna go for a skate and leave his net open, fair game. “If you’re a goaltender, TEND THE GOAL!”
MarkARov!!! ITS NOT MARKOV!!!
How disrespectful....
On #6 on your list. I don't think the refs messed up as badly as you think. VGK got 5 minutes for senseless violence. For being stupid. If you don't think that's fair, how about 5 on 3 for a full 2 minutes. Both Stastny and Eakin were guilty of penalties. Or a 4 minute double minor for blood drawn on the collisions. And if you hate all that, how about kill the penalty? The first Couture goal was 4 seconds in. Maybe call a timeout? No? Maybe a timeout after goal 2? Maybe don't blow a 3-1 series lead? Maybe don't yield a SHG GWG in double OT in game 6 at home up 3-2 in the series. I think VGK got way too much pity and management showed their true colours.
those icing injuries were further exacerbated by the trapezoid restriction that prohibits the goalie from playing the puck in the corner. I always hated the stupid trapezoid rule.
Rob Ray of the sabers took his jersey off to fight and I think a rule is in place because of it
Sergei Priakin was the first Soviet in the NHL, although Mogilny had much more impact.
What about Reijo Ruotsalainen rule?
What rule is that?
Hybrid icing should have been introduced after Kurtis Foster broke his femur on a similar play years before.
The 5 minute major was totally the appropriate call. Cross-check and Stasney's trip was a set play.
great vid and great content..but what about the Broudeur rule? LOL
Age shouldn't matter for "Rookie" status. I think the goalies should be allowed to carry the puck up the ice. If they start carrying it up the ice, they should be open to receiving hits though.
The rule changes I would like to see are:
-Stricter enforcement of Instigator calls. If you start a fight(slashing/crosschecking at someone to get them to fight), you get tossed from the game.
-Icing gets waived off if the puck goes through the blue paint of the crease
-Removal of regular season shoot-out
Mark Tinordi got fucked up pretty bad in a game against the Kings back in the 90s during an icing.
How about the trapezoid to limit the area where the goalie can handle the puck. That’s a Martin Brodeur rule.
You forgot Marty Turco and the trapezoid...
Dude, I don't know who that is, but it's most definitely NOT a picture of Rod Brind'amour
I thought so too lol...
Sorry the cross check where it was to his face or not was the direct cause of him losing balance and the hitting his head. The call on the ice was correct like it or not. And don't bother I'm not a fan of either team.
The age limit for calder is stupid. It should just be you can't have played for another professional league.
Also.... glad to see i wasnt the only one annoyed by the Makarov pronunciation
Martin Brodeur for the trapezoid.
Sean Avery for the Avery Rule
the sharks did not just get 4 goals in that game. They battled hard as hell and deserved it. In the next series the sharks got a 5 minute major penalty against the avs and sweeped it of like it was nothing. The 5 minute major is not an excuse to let in 4 goals like that in a game 7.
Wait a second here.... That Krug hit was not clean... The contact was 'clean' sure. But he skated 150 accelerating the whole way down the ice to that hit. That is called charging and is not legal...
What about Gretzky, Avery, etc.?
It's MACK-are-ahv, the r isn't even before the k
Bro.... you didn't even include the Brodeur Trapezoid....
Didn't even mention the Sean Avery rule.
I think they should have just made Makarov ineligible for the Rookie of the Year award because he had already been playing pro hockey somewhere else.
That is why they wouldn't let Gretzky win it and that was about a decade before Makarov.
jean beliveau scoring repeatedly on power play, so penalties end after a goal.
The Avery rule?
"Made a name for himself by always being out of his net."
Now that's the kind of goalie I can get behind!
The first one with Vegas is still annoying bc you can cry all you want, you allowed 4 goals in 5 minutes, that’s just awful penalty killing
The rookie age cutoff was a kneejerk reaction and a bad decision. It should be based on pro or international experience. Makarov played in the Soviet league for a decade (plus several olympics), which should have disqualified him. Most rookies are age 18-20 and have played since age 6, or 12-14 years. But imagine someone who NEVER played (even in PeeWee) starts playing for fun at age 20 in rec leagues, turns out to be a natural, then plays college hockey, the ECHL and the AHL, and makes the NHL by 28. That person has less playing experience than a 20 year old, but wouldn't be eligible.
About Vegas Golden Knights vs San Jose...
I wish I could have sympathy for the Knights in this one. I can't. I'm pretty much with UrinatingTree on this one albeit in a far less cruel and disrespectful manner since they're my 4th favorite team. The Referees screwed both teams in albeit near equal fashions, but Vegas didn't do themselves any favors. They deserved to lose, end of story.
1] Vegas received an almost as good call in game 2 on goaltender interference that went in their favor that shouldn't have. They rallied afterwards and won game 2, 3, and 4
2] The did nothing in game 5
3] They couldn't solve Martin Jones in Game 6 despite savagely outplaying San Jose. When the game went to overtime tied at 1 [I think] only to have Vegas let the softest goal on their own power-play with all the momentum in the world. This game never should have went to overtime.
4] They were up 3-0 in the third, and then cross-checked someone, and in a freak accident, the player was bleeding and badly hurt. 5 minute major. They could have done a better job on the penalty kill. If that happened the game never would have made it to overtime, and Vegas would have won.
Vegas had FAR too many chances to get the job done and didn't. I don't feel sorry for the bad call that costed Vegas, not with all these factors in play.
The head coach for Vegas was also too gutless to call a timeout during that power play to try and refocus their PK unit, but they didn't 😆.
not Sergey Markov but MAKAROV one of best forwards ever and you are too lazy to learn how to pronounce his name correctly???
Say Markov again, I double dare you.
The rookie age rule is stupid.
Being a rookie has nothing to do with your age. Whether you’re 18 or 48.
Being a rookie is strictly denoting your FIRST YEAR IN THE LEAGUE. Your rookie year.
I don’t care if you’re 20, or you’re 50 - if it’s your first inaugural year in the league, then you’re a rookie - end of story. When you hit your second season in the league, you’re no longer a rookie.
Literally the definition of the word “rookie” is:
a new recruit, especially in the army or police.
"a rookie cop"
*a member of an athletic team in his or her first full season in that sport.*
Exactly! This restriction makes sense in European leagues where players change enormously and many stars make careers elsewhere before settling in a European country playing their last years (also European born players these days) but not in NHL where the best players are already in by default. Guess they just wanted it to be a junior award in the first place without creating another trophy.