In Kerala (a state in India), we use customized Linux distributions for government purposes. For example, in education sector, we use a customized version of Ubuntu 18.04 and all the computers in schools are installed with it. We teaches all the students how to use Linux instead of Windows and saved over $400 Million.
actually pretty neat, I bet kids there could probably learn programming and other tech jobs pretty easier if they learn about the command line properly in school
@@yoplait3256 yes there is a special club for students called Littile kites where they teach programming (Scratch&python) animation (Kden live, blender, tupi tube) malayalam typing (our native language) and robotics and ai with Raspi
Fed contractor here: other than the reasons you gave, it's basically word, onedrive/SharePoint, and the fact that a lot of people working in government are barely able to do basic tasks in Windows
Windows is much more familiar to most people. In order to get more people and governments to switch to Linux, Linux developers would have to make their software more intuitive and user-friendly to make up for the lack of familiarity. Except most of them would much rather chew their own arm off than do that.
@@perforongo9078 Regular users don't use software that falls into that category. I mean double click on chrome, it opens, it works... ok what's the issue again? The core issue for most industries is the lack of industry specific commercial software. AutoCAD doesn't run on linux, Photoshop and 3dsmax don't run on linux, etc. However with increasing numbers of applications transitioning to web based platforms, the transition becomes easier. Regardless, the transition to linux will not be driven from the USA, but rather it's adversary's and other governments who don't want to be dependent on a closed source solution from their rivals. This in turn will eventually create a momentum that causes major software vendors to adopt linux, consumers in those counties to do the same, and ultimately trickles back to the US eventually killing off windows entirely once even consumer applications and games wind up needing to support it to secure sales overseas.
@@TheLinuxEXP also, word is a barrier at the individual level rather than just organizational. I literally have to use word to do what I need to do at work. Teams, slack, and everything else I need for my job is on Linux, but not word/office. And I am pretty sure it's deliberate.
@@Gokul_Yt oh I see !! 😲 Which subject is it ? Cuz i never knew that NCERT had text books on computer science, that's why. Was Linux used in your schools ? my govt school ( KV NTPC from Kerala ) didn't cuz why should they ? It is so great for Kerala IT department to embrace FOSS and Linux on offices and schools and syllabus. Also what was your syllabus btw as well ?
Considering there are staff out there who think turning the monitor on/off restarts the PC, the training element is by far the biggest hurdle to overcome
ok funnny story one of my friends in IT department was going around charging monitors. He got to his bosses office and she said "Don't change that yet my files are open". So he politely nods and hold a usb drive up to the air vent counts to 30. Swaps the monitors out, and hold the usb drive up the the new monitor. 2 weeks latter she come into his office saying "you made me look like an idiot".
I always hear about training. I work as IT support and to be fair typical users have little to no idea of what they are doing. If you replace Windows with Linux, 99% of the people will still need support for almost every task... It is a matter of inertia...
This is so true. A lot of users do not know the difference between a reboot or restart (same thing) or a shutdown let alone how to do it. If it's not pinned to the desktop or taskbar they don't know how to find it from the Start menu. When a user has to access some mainframe server using blah application they don't know the difference between the two.
@@nymusicman That's where Win 95, Win 98, Win Me, Win NT 4.0, Win 2000 shined and then the Win XP GUI went into hidden mode or was it Win Vista (I am talking about the Control Panel). Some additions that MS made to Win Vista was fine but it was mostly moving things around and changing the look. It was change for change sake. Win 8 and 10 are even worst. They moved things around but the OS is still an OS. They added advertisements, the MS store, automatic updates. There is not much room for improvements anymore.
I'd like to take things even one step further: job security. Why would IT personnel get rid of their bread and butter? Windows has so many security issues and bugs, it guarantees a lifetime of employment. Plain and simple.
3:40 microsoft has always been silent about pirated windows for home users just for this. to establish windows habit. they didnt get a license price but in a long term they earned much more customers
I am angry on my school for teaching with Windows primarily and introducing all sorts of pirated softwares such as Photoshop. Linux adoption is increasing at a fast pace here in India, and almost all of the village schools are teaching Linux!
I'm sorry, I think you arguments are coming 10 years too late. In today corporate and administrative world, the OS of individual workstation do not matter too much. What matters is the fleet management, cloud data, identity and rights management. On all those front, Linux itself do not offer anything, and it is normal as an OS. But it does not either integrate very well with industry standard like Microsoft365 or google enterprise. I think this is the reason for the lack of adoption.... And probably a business opportunity. From where I stand, I love Linux for my application servers but as a desktop for pro work, it doesn't meet the bar.
As a retired software developer who worked in the public sector, I can say Linux is used in science and even military applications. Not all applications, of course, but some crucial ones.
Not sure abt Moscow oblast, but here in Novosibirsk I didn't see ANY government-related personal computers running any Linux distro, just regular Windows 10 or 7 everywhere (and some of them are not activated, lmao)
I think it is important to do the transition step by step.... such as.. 1. Make the daily-use programs web-based (Chrome/FF) 2. Use open format 3. then change the OS
And cross-platform software too. For example: government social media using Inkscape even on Windows instead of Illustrator or Affinity, so that if the transition is ever made, it will be far closer to being seamless.
Personally, I started using open office instead of word/excel. No reason our government couldn't do that immediately. I'm not sure what most governments are using for email. No reason they could not use web based secure email. But there are some proprietary accounting programs which would need some close examination.
Petition for Nick to do an entire episode in thicc French accent EDIT: I just remembered that my school's syllabus has now replaced Windows and Office with Ubuntu and LibreOffice for all grades, glad to see even young children learning free software from the start
As an information, the brazilian government migrated to Linux in 2006. But recently started to transition back to Windows due to... well, that sweet licensing money.
I worked at NASA and outside of Mission Control, where a Windows server failure would potentially mean dead astronauts so UNIX was relied on instead, the bulk of JSC ran on Windows and Apple Macs.
I wouldn't say backwards, that is not only false but misleading. The US is a global leader in science and tech inovation. All scientific fields in the US use the metric system first. Even in my job we use only metric and it is a US based company. It is just difficult for adoption in the average household but in the end, why does that matter? Other than the quick stab for a joke, there isn't a need for metric in everyday use when imperial works fine. Its just a matter of preference. I use imperial but can easily use metric. It doesn't matter to me and I really don't care.
@@clifflogan7974 Even in Canada, India, South Africa, Australia and the US most household and food products are sold with imperial / metric labels. I found it was easier to learn math for electronics when using metrics and scientific notation.
I am from Turkey and we actually have a distro called Pardus, which is getting more and more popular among the public buildings due to low spec computers and the appeal of not leaving any traces of sensetive information.
Yea I tried Pardus. From a daily simple user point of view I never understood why they felt the need for creating their own distro. Anyways I currently am using Fedora serves my needs
@@siclucealucks not really, the source code is public and looked it up, found nothing. I think you should be more worried about the big tech companies collecting your data instead of a Turkish president
Working in a business environment, the hardest thing I see that would keep Linux adoption from a purely operational standpoint is Active Directory and Group Policy. With an office of a few dozen maybe it isn't such a big deal but with a few hundred, suddenly that wide sweeping authentication and management is critical. If anyone has any experience with open source alternatives, I'd love to hear about it.
Idk about Group Policy haven't tried implementing it yet on a GNU/Linux server but in my homelab I've set up Samba Active Directory which is open-source equivalent of Microsoft's AD on a Debian 10 Server. Correct me if I'm wrong I've just started diving in this free area I don't even know how to write iptables but would learn soon.
^This is the big reason. It's doable in Linux but it's no drop in replacement and require some major network emgineer retraining. These networks have been AD based since NT3.51 back in the early 90s.
The point about a lack of Linux training is extremely true from my experience. I have taken two separate Linux courses in the past (one of which is a college course), and for both classes, even the instructor was not qualified to teach about Linux and always ended up shifting the focus of the class towards literally anything. The instructor for the first class even said "Just take the exam, I'll give you an A no matter what you get because I don't know much about Linux."
20+ years back, I had to compile a Linux sound driver myself to even listen something, so fundamental..... Today Linux has lead a light year and on par with Windows/Mac, from pure OS stand points.
Today, some website asked me to compile xar. I think it is a decompressor or something. It didn't work since dependencies were missing. It's the usual dependency hell on Linux where 1 software needs 20 libraries. Just tell me where to get the fricking executable and where to put it.
Not really. I wanted to install Waterfox on Linux Mint and I spent 20 mins just trying. Desktop Linux is ironically a walled garden like iPhone. If it is not on app store or repo you need to suffer (almost feels like jailbreak) to get something installed.
@@dankspider6854 No, this xar thing is something else. It uses OpenSSL, I think version 1.02. Also, I was going to use it on a Mac OSX image that I downloaded from Apple. I need to convert it into an image so that I can write it to a USB stick, then I will install on some mac laptop someone gave me.
@@eduardosanchezbarrios5810 it also does not help linux is not exactly “average joe friendly”. I mean look at the root file structure for god sakes... even though I prefer it, i can perfectly understand the average joe liking windows more
I kind of see that as being 'self-fixing', just because over time several of the techies on the team who understand the advantages will become senior enough to be able to influence those decisions. I'm kind of an optimist, so I may well be wrong :)
About training, I think the biggest part about this is the actual IT departments, not necessarily the users themselves. I heard Linux IT guys are usually more costly and hard to find than Windows IT guys
I can't imagine they are pricier, but certainly harder to find. Since most buisnesses and stuff use Windows, most Admins on the market are only experienced in setting stuff up in Windows, so that's that. But yeah, I don't think users would be the biggest problem either. The main obstacle is propably Microsoft Office, or better the lack of it. Long time Office Workers can be a BITCH when it comes to that. I remember, when MS released Word 2007, with the new (and 1000 times better) UI. They ranted and screemed like you've murdered their whole family, because for some reason they can't handle ANY change whatsoever. Forcing them to use an Alternative is TOUGH, because they simply can't be bothered to use a Tool with slightly different UI. Other then that however, not a big issue. The OS itself is absolutely no problem, login it works as usual, place the right icons on the right place, and that's about all.
I have absolutely no idea how business choose software and how IT companies choose to develop solutions, but for example, I’ve been working on a chemical production plant, and for controlling the machines they were using Windows xp, but I can’t understand why this software was not system agnostic or working with a proprietary OS
@@alessandromauri93 I service lab analysers. Most still use XP or Win7 to run the equipment. I have only encountered 2 systems using Unix like OS, one was using QNX and the one below uses Xubuntu (based in Brescia) www.copangroup.com/digital-microbiology/
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 I wonder if a bit of job loss fear would help adoption? We're Interviewing people today happy to use Linux and libreoffice, if you can't adapt then I guess..
I have a very small business (a 200 room hotel). I stipulated all IT must be Linux. Was difficult at first because most of the reservation and payment software (and passport scanning software) is written for Windows. I have, however, managed to find alternatives for just about everything (including the passport scanning software). I wrote the reservation system myself (a web app, used PHP/MySQL/Apache). Does what I need it to do - can see where I am at any point in time from anywhere in the world. The only exception at the moment is the accountant (she uses some Windows only accounting software), but I'm going to change that very soon.
You are very committed to this. Nice to see. Once more adopt this there should be more project for that stuff maybe. Anyways you could theoretically make the software you wrote FOSS which would be cool or leave it just for you and no one else or proprietary but FOSS would be the nicest
You can try running that accounting software on Linux with Wine, well you can write your own programs then maybe you would've already tried that but a few days ago I was caught up with this same problem too but with a few workarounds I was able to migrate that organization's ERP Suite to Linux on Wine.
@@armannschelander2725 It's not necessarily commitment - it's pragmatism. I don't have to worry about lengthy concerning pseudo legal terms and conditions and licensing fees, I don't have to worry about deployments and setting up new machines, I don't have to worry about staff visiting dodgy websites and being asked to install XYZ. I donate generously to all of the projects my business depends upon, and will do so each year (so long as I'm profitable - took a huge hit last year/this year due to irrational covid regulations rushed through - huge losses, so have had to really tighten my belt). Anyway, my main point is from my perspective, Linux (on the desktop and back-end) is a logical and practical decision/solution, and not one based on my love of Linux :)
I think you are forgetting a very important point. That is Integration. When you are using Windows with Office 365 you have everything from one Vendor it makes it very easy to integrate your stuff with one another. And I am sorry to say it, but there is no real Office-365-Alternative out there that can really compete with that complete suite of tools that it offers. Every tool by itself might have a replacement for Linux but they do not have this "universal" touch and feel where you can learn how to use one program and you will be able to use the others with ease. And when I think of many peoples struggle when switching from Windows XP to Windows 7, I don't think they will be able to handle a change to a decent linux system.
Office tools are not the main tool in big public organizations. Most of the heavy lifting is done with specific tools tailored to the service. Currently most of those tools are server based with browser front-ends. And soon everything will be like it due to the need to make the services accessible online for the general public and the growing tendency for work from home solutions. So there is no real case against Linux at the workstation level.
Great and true video. The only thing that is SLOWLY changing is the software portion. Since most things are turning into web/cloud base programs, this enables a lower barrier for that for software.
All of John Deere's equipment runs on Windows CE 4, which hasn't been updated since 2013. ALL OF JOHN DEERE'S EQUIPMENT RUNS ON WINDOWS CE 4, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2013.
ALL factory NOT use newer windows machine control. no newer because not have safe and stabile OS all use linux because have safe and stabile and no newer have problems.-
I’ve seen textile companies running Windows 95 and OS/2 warp because that’s what their 20-year-old machines are controlled by - FULL STOP. Then again, there will come a point that the malware doesn’t run on win 95 or OS/2 either 😄
And the problem is what now? If it works for them, it works for them. Just a small reality check - I used to do consulting for a company that ran software from the 1980s on an IBM mainframe on an OS that didn't receive major updates in 14 years. Sometimes stuff just works and there's just no compelling reason to change it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "It's old!" isn't an argument that holds any weight on its own. Heck, the wheel was invented thousands of years ago, yet it's even become a proverb that reinventing it is a stupid idea.
Wait a minute, as far as I know: the USA Govt and Military uses GNU/Linux, specifically Red Hat Enterprise Linux on their systems. To expand, there's a list of them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters
Sure for critical systems and servers but for office PCs? They do love their MS Office Products. th-cam.com/video/UMoLKLM8SMg/w-d-xo.html&google_comment_id=UgwnCM7RJPrZScxy8Yh4AaABAg The Air Force actually makes their distro www.gettens.online/
They should teach the employees how to use LibreOffice on windows first and then everything fall into place when switching to Linux desktop OS. Printers and Scanners are another issue. Generic drivers can provide basic functionality of these devices.
@@raahimfareed the layouts, it messed the entire documents, the spacings. Try wps office or onlyoffice instead, better reliability with microsoft office.
@@gold9994 If you know how to use libre office, then it wont suck. I mean, ODF format is there for a reason and MS Office supports it perfectly and vise versa. As for WPS Office, I personally found them spreading trojan through their updating system. They are a spyware that keeps evading all AV's because their main product is not a malware, but they deliver it. More like a backdoor. Better to use Libreoffice with ODF format and convet to PDF through the 'export to pdf' option. Works perfect.
@@chrisbitus1328 guess what, i never faced any problem with wps, be it virus, dataleaks or anything else. So, I'll stick with it in ubuntu and microsoft office in windows.
The problem is not about linux or windows, the problem is that there's just too many people out there that doesn't even know the basics of a computer, and linux being inclined closer to the bare machine presents trouble for them to do their "basic" things which relied on the basic computer knowledge they lack completely. So the hurdle here is not about switching the OS, it's supplementing them with the sufficient computer knowledge that windows unhealthily skipped
Windows 11 and hardware requirements could tip the balance in Linux favour if the community can get its act together. Best approach would be something like Zorin. Just a thought.
@@Scheiseposter Huh? Windows 11 is abysmal 🤣. But I agree it still isn't going to tip the scales. The best thing happening in favour of Linux right now is the Steam Deck. It's a Linux handheld gaming PC. The more people buy it, the more important it becomes for game developers to natively support the Linux OS with their games. This could then push the OS out to more software developers and cause a domino effect. The Deck is already outselling expectations.
@@InsidesGames Tech reviewers already are saying Steam Deck is meh :D like i was saying it would be since announcement. And yes, Win 11 is objectivelly better than Win 10, more stable too
When Microsoft drops support for Windows 10 I'm changing my laptop from a dual boot system using CentOS 8 Stream dual boot on an external USB drive over to the internal hard drive Windows 10 resides.
Linux is used in many public institutions here in Brazil. Actually, the plan, years ago, was to have a massive adoption, but it was mostly a failure due to lack of real investment.
Brazil still is one of the references countries in the free software law movement, the country has one of the most massive adoption of free software movement
As a network admin in a public institution with years of market experience in huge companies I can assure one of the reasons government institutions are so slow and unproductive is because of this. Just to make clear, because they use Linux they are so slow. It's not linux fault, but the way everything works in the government plus some of the shortcomings of Linux. When people comment in this type of video they think when a Huge company decides to use Windows they pay the same price a user would pay. Let's say a Windows License is US$200, if you buy 10 licenses is US$170 if you buy more probably US$150 or even lesse depends what more you bundle with this purchase. You bought office licenses too? Even cheaper, remote desktop licenses? More cheaper, Windows server and CALs? You pay less with every license you buy. And them comes the real price the price of support, you can pay for software assurance and support tickets while you are buying your licenses. Or even better you could buy your computer with Windows and support. Now imagine a small office with 50 employees which is more expensive: 50 Windows licenses costing US$130 each and US$6500 total, two Windows server licenses costing US$900 each US$1800 total, 50 licenses of Microsoft 365 each costing US$150 per year or US$7500. Plus a IT guy costing US$50.000 per year for a total of US$65.800. Or a Linux guy costing US$80.000 per year?
@@sanjios well United States declared war on Iraq two times, is enemy of Iran and China and Windows installations are still running. Microsoft opens Windows code for audit to governments you can look up.
In the end the only thing that counts ist time and money. In government the decision makers in many countries rule only 4 top 5 years. Any IT project in public administration for Linux will take a lot longer than that. Second, the life goes on, say new laws require new solutions, and requires manpower and budget. So who will decide to spent a lot of money in Linux transition and cease other projects, if you can make an undisputed decision to develop a solution based on Windows? Third, from my own experience, many commercial software ist only supported under a specfic distribution and with a third party software stack. Enterprise IT lives from standardization, not from having several ways to to the same. and finally, pleased don't compare OpenOffice or LibreOffice to M365 of today. Yes, IT Costs much more than the old way to buy an Office license for a given version and use it for 10 years, but it saved our asses (Personal view AS IT guy) in this COVID times because it made made mobile working much easier and faster to deploy. Still, we are using Linux on servers (VMs) too but this are mostly web applications developed for Linux.
I think moving away from windows and all that proprietary tracking that comes with it is a good idea to make sure there won’t be anything malicious happening with the files of the citizens
In my opinion Governments need to use Open Source software. As a citizen the Government needs some information about me but I then want to at least know how this information is handled. With proprietary software I can't be sure that this information isn't stolen by private companies even though I would be very privacy cautious personally.
This video brings me back. ~15 years ago I was enrolled in my Civil Service year and I worked closely with a local PA; I pondered the business opportunity of converting PAs to open source solutions. My idea to make a first dent in the system would have been to push adoption for Office alternatives first, offering not only installation and set up, but training and a "1-to- 1" support in converting their documents to open standards...
You spoke well Nick! That describes my everyday battles when the discussion goes to infrastructure. Also "Lobbying" is usually the greatest factor of all. You cannot fill pockets with air! On the other hand how can you convince someone that spend a big amount of money and time to leave their secure place (for something better in my opinion)!
After wannacry hit, most government systems in the education sector have switched to Linux in Kerala, India. This should pave way for Linux adoption in other sectors as these kids grow up knowing how to use it. In my college, every computer students use from the library to software dev labs used some variant of Ubuntu.
I think that if everyone switches to linux, 1st: security will be less (like windows) because people will have a reason to hack linux and 2nd: isn't it much better when we are linux experts when others struggle to use windows?
@@unicorn_tamer Security through obscurity doesn't quite work, as Linux is used everywhere, and thus hackers love to study it and try to find vulnerabilities to infect servers. About the experts thing, I think it would be nice of everybody could use the better option: Linux. It would mean more eyes on the code, more contributors and more improvements. Everybody ends up with a higher real state that way.
@@softwarelivre2389 this is true but I mean, if everyone does amazing things then you cant be something more than the others and sometimes, it's good to know something that others dont. But of course it's important to have more programmers available to write code and do unbilievable things however big tech companies (like microsoft and apple) can invest on this to make more money
@@unicorn_tamer I disagree. I've been doing things my colleagues couldn't my entire life and it only made me mad that they couldn't do it, which made me the one who would have to do it in the end. Not cool. The same way they did amazing thing that I couldn't. I don't want to be better than the rest, I want the rest to be as good as I am or even better, and then I will do my best to become evem better, creating better colleagues and a better myself.
One of the biggest Reasons: Microsoft Office. Seriously. You just cannot change to another Programm. Long time Office workers are unable to adapt and change for the life of it. I remember, when MS released Office 2007, and therefore switched the whole UI. The new Layout and stuff was superior in ANY imaginable way, easier to navigate, more intuitive, easier to use - but all of the people that used Office 2003 and previous versions were furious and acted like you just murdered their whole family. If you force those people to use eg Libre Office, expect nothing less, then full fledged riots and maybe a little civil war.
@D Reaper have you ever dealt with office folks? Yeah, there are similar looking solutions out there, and I don't get either, why it HAS to be MS office, since eg Libre Office has 99% the same features at all. But even the tiniest changes drive those office folks NUTS. honestly, I've never seen this behavior anywhere else , but with those tools for those people, you'll make them blood thirsty maniacs if you change anything about their office suits.
This exactly. Anyone who touts that Libre et al are compatible has never tried to share complicated documents and/or macros. The last two companies I worked for relied heavily on VBA, active directory, heck it took until 2009 to finally get rid completely of the truly awful Lotus Notes
@D Reaper I'd hope so but either it needs to be 100% compatible with MS or it needs to be MS. Now I've packed in work for 99% of what I need libre office works fine. Tax return it's got to be Excel, principally that's why I keep Windows on a VM.
@D Reaper As I am out of the country non resident I have to submit with and approved application. It just so happens that the one I settled on of written in Excel VBA.
Printer support in Linux with cups is excellent! I am amazed what it can detect, even stuff where MS doesn't have any updated drivers for, cups will figure out what postscript to talk to it and it works! It's bizarre!
I used to work in a government environment and I feel like it's more that the people there are either 16 years old or 80 years old with no in-between and Linux is more of a 30 year old kind of target audience
Where did you see it? I see it on some medical devices, along with for some bizarre reason windows CE. YES in 2021 you can still get equipment running Windows CE. In this case an endorectal pressure sensor. Which is just as fun as it sounds.
IMHO the hardest step to take before even consider a migration is: can I work with open source software? Is my productivity at risk? Can I swap MS Office with LibreOffice? PhotoShop with GIMP? Autocad with ... whatthehellCAD? This migration can be done, one step at a time, while using Windows, only after that a migration could have sense.
Some government offices in India are also switching to Linux based OSes from what I heard. They even have developed the interface in more than 5-6 local languages, and that includes libreoffice also.
Back in 2006, Richard Stallman came to India, and somehow convinced the government of Kerala to switch the computer school curriculum of an entire state from Windows to Linux! Edit: Wow! I just wrote not hoping anyone to notice, but I got to know so many other good things about open source flourishing from the replies!
@@janscholtz6297 You will be glad to know that Indian schools are now teaching OpenOffice [instead of MS Office] to the students, but it would be better if LibreOffice is taught.
Governments need to adopt an open source where possible policy. E.g. adopt liberoffice on Windows and require that be used. Then if an individual specifically needs Excel, they are given an exemption. In this manner over time, the ecosystem moves over to open source.
I moved a 500 bed hospital to Linux in 1996 and they still use it today. My IT staff loved the change and the other staff had almost zero learning curve. Our custom HIS system is web based so no users noticed the switch. When lab & radiology systems didnt run on Linux, we rejected them from consideration. We had a windows only radiology system and we told them we were go I g to drop them if they cant make it work under Linux. My IT team assisted in getting it to work under Linux and we got 1 year free license for doing so. It was a MAJOR win ($$$) for the hospital too. It was a risky move but i got full support from the CFO & CEO
Tbh. 1996 and 2023 are very different when it comes to switching IT systems. Software hasn't changed that much in the past years, so any change is going to be huge. If you just switched from DOS to Windows 3 and then to Windows 95 you are way more open to the idea of switching again than if you switched from Win 7 to 10 4 years ago and didn't change anything since then. Also there are a ton of different smaller issues, like the Excel file your department has been using for 20 years. It is definitely possible, but it is also definitely more difficult today.
@@moritzm.3671 totally disagree users have no idea of the underlying o/s. Even the GUI under Linux is very similar to Windoze. Switching today is much easier as most apps are web based and the majority of web servers ARE Linux. As far as any Excel files, they all run fine under Libreoffice.
The benefit of gnu/Linux isn't that it doesn't cost money. Governments Must use gnu/Linux because the source code is visible and can be modified (or pay someone to modify) to suit your needs, so you aren't at the mercy of just one private company
People in government service are always spending other people's money, not their own. Also, high level managers that work for large employers, and governments are some of the largest employers in the world., are complacent at best. They want to be able to have someone to sue when, not if, something goes wrong.
Actually I was taught how to use Linux ( Ubuntu ) in school and college. And college professor (I study engineering) promoted using linux for coding related tasks and asked atleast to dual boot. First I was hesitant even to dual boot. But now linux (Fedora + gnome 40) is the only OS in my laptop.
You missed the fact that many orgs use MS backend software like Active Directory. Linux may allow connecting to LDAP, but it won't support group policy and single sign on may be limited.
SSO with a Linux desktop and an AD backend isn't too complicated to configure, you just need to join the domain/realm and configure your PAM stack to grab a kerberos ticket a logon (and renew it periodically). For modern distributions, SSSD should handle it out of the box (or close enough). You can also configure Apache and Jboss on a Linux server to authenticate through SPNEGO. One issue is that AD Kerberos tickets can be very large if the user belongs to many AD groups as MS has overloaded the comment field with a group enumeration. This is actually also an issue for IIS and other MS products. Group Policy used to be supported through a third party solution but it is now supported natively through SSSD.
These are excellent points. Having done a lot of work with government here in South Africa, I have also found that they tend to go out on tender for many of the big tech procurement and development purposes. Companies that bid tend to offer a general solution, reliant on the assumption of Windows, Office, Outlook, etc. When developers bid for systems development work, they work towards a one size fits all solution.
Hello. This was on my recommended. Nice video! I wanted to add a few comments to this. Manjaro has a built in HP Office center software or app. If the copying machine or printer is an HP brand it will work. I am surprised you didn't mention Ten. That was a Linux experiment in which NASA worked with the USAF (is my understanding). It is still around but I have no clue if anyone is using it. I think more governments need to experiment with Manjaro (Plasma). It has KDE connect built in and the buttons are in the same place as Windows. Start button is on the bottom left along with file explorer
Never heard of Ten I know for a fact few people at NASA use Linux and if they do it's red hat. I think the highest concentration of Linux users at NASA is at the glen research center.
I spend 90% of my time in a web browser anyway when I'm not working. And when I am working, I want my OS to "just run the programs I need". Sometimes it's Linux, sometimes it's Windows. That's why after 15 years of switching back and forth I still run dual-boot systems on machines I use every day.
Indian government has started encouraging use of open source softwares. and it is also actively contributing to open source projects + it has also open sourced some of its innovative platforms like the cowin portal. Univ professors are also preferring linux over windows and we are getting to see it being used at several governmetal departments.
Yep we had it too, though we generally hated the computers, too slow and they weren't using windows. Well now I would have been glad to use one but back then I didn't know much except windows = good
Thank you, Nick. There is no reason. But there is no reason for starvation, homelessness, poverty, or continuing to follow economic illusions about eternal financial growth either.
The fact of the matter is, as much as Linux GUI has improved in recent years, Windows has been, is and probably will be for the foreseeable future lightyears ahead of linux and macos in terms of quality of life features, in terms of how easy it is to use and in terms of how intuitive it is.
Yap. But Linux also doesn't have the money nor the people to be caring a lot for UX. They prefer to invest their resources into functionalities. If Linux had more resources things would be different, but that is sadly just a dream.
@@ivanf.8489 Yeah that's true. They spend their money on functionality and security. Windows spends a lot on UX, and macos.... I actually don't know, they're kinda garbage in every category, yet they get funded like crazy xD
@@techtutorvideos Ooof, I could spend hours listing each and every objectively inferior feature that macos has compared to windows xD But I'm just going to leave it at that, been through this a hundred times and the result is always the same.
For the first time I'm hoping that Microsoft wouldn't drop that 8th generation CPU and TPM requirement because that would really motivate the masses to shift from M$ to the free land of GNU/Linux.
@@erenwayne Microsoft wasn't wrong about all the BS they were saying about you making the choices. You can just move to Linux if you don't like having to buy a recent PC.
I "love" how a furniture shop had me downloading Adobe Reader because the pdf format they use will literally not open on any other software capable of viewing PDFs...
Libreoffice has a good PDF export option. Works perfect. However there is another pdf editor for temporary usage on Linux (forgot name). Adobe reader for now runs through wine properly. Crossover may be your solution.
LOL Having worked for the United States Postal service. Most employees wouldn't have the brain power to run anything that didn't come with solitaire installed on it by default. The U.S. Navy paid Microsoft a few million dollars to keep up support for Windows Xp. So they didn't have to retrain members of the fleet. And most ship's systems all ran Win XP. Go figure.
I live in Brazil. More than 20 years ago the federal government started to use Linux instead of windows in public government sectors for economic purposes. Past all this time, they are reverting back to Windows. They claim you do save money on proprietary OS', but you spend all or more of this money training people...
I want in the future to found my own little business, and from the start I'm gonna buy hardware that is linux-ready, and have all PCs with Fedora for the corporative login service.
@@vvr4th980 no gpu acceleration plus the employee gonna want a proper mac, plus that's also illegal as a business u have to respect the apple eula its not the same as when ur using it personally and dont have to care
In my mind if linux get starts to get largely adopted one of two things may happen, Microsoft will feel the pressure and become less complacent, like how AMD has come and 'shook up' the cpu market etc. Or two Microsoft feels the pressure and tries to find some way to halt linux adoption or try to absorb linux into itself. (What I mean by absorb is like windows sub system for linux, in my opinion I think its cool, but a part of me feels this is Microsoft attempt to try and cater for the few thing that might make some switch to linux exist in windows, and make them stay there
Nope, even though Linux has a small user base there's no way M$ can absorb it, It isn't the same case like of Minix using any cuck license, It's GNU/Linux👍. It's too big even for M$ to take over on.
I think they already did that thing where they support Linux apps in Windows...then again, it's been a good three years since I switched to Ubuntu and goddamn it am I ever going back to anything else
I worked for a company that used Linux for thin clients and had all the windows apps we used in a server in IT. It started up really fast and made updates much easier than places I had worked before, but I think lots of people wanted to be able to personalize their desktop, etc and eventually we went back to desktops.
I moved to Linux because for my workflow its perfect. For the pandemic, because of the lack of computers in my house I had to use a raspberry pi as a main computer. Honestly it was hard at the beginning but now I use it all the time since the work Im doing is just browsing the web, writing code and file editing (aka university work) and I feel like its work perfectly fine. Of course I feel that if you want a gaming, specificlly AAA games it not a good idea. The gaming I do is retro games so its fine.
I love Linux and it still gives me tons of issues with various laptops and monitors. I can't imagine the average user wants to troubleshoot that much like us.
I'm having lots of "fun" trying to get Linux Mint working correctly on my Thinkpad. I don't mind doing the troubleshooting and finding fixes but I know an average desktop user would be beyond lost trying to navigate this. Hybrid graphics is a PITA to get working correctly. Sleep/shutdown don't seem to work. Going to sleep just takes me to the lock screen. Shutdown doesn't actually shut down the laptop; I have to hold the power button until turns off The 4G modem has no Linux support. Tried following some forum posts for that particular model to no avail. USB wifi adapter has no official Linux support from Netgear. I tried following forum posts for that model also which didn't work either. I get weird audio glitches occasionally over HDMI
@@JJFlores197 same here. I have this laptop that just keeps rebooting randomly on linux. It works fine on windows 😑 but maybe we have to accept that not all hardware is meant to accept Linux
I would argue that people who have used windows their entire lives are almost entirely clueless as to how it works. It is absolutely shameful how little the average person know how to do anything
I worked at a Large Mining Company. The main reason we could not use Linux was due to ISO9001 certification and liability. We needed guaranties, why we used Microsoft and Cisco, because we needed Guarantied Service Agreements. The main question is who do you call when stuff blows up, with hardware & software who can you pass liability too and sue when fault causes downtime. On Linux the Corporation responsible for all support, I cannot call Linus Torvalds with a kernel bug. Does Debian offer 24/7 Support, on a moments notice?
When the pandemic started and and classes in my University were moved to an online regimen Microsoft offered the office suite to all students for free. What better way to get the future specialized workforce to depend on their solutions? It's a pretty smart move on their end imo. I on the other hand have convinced a few classmates to use open source tools to do the assignments instead lol
This is not a politics problem, it's a Linux developers problem. They don't understand a simple thing. They cannot put themselves in the shoes of people outside of IT. Completely different mentality. They don't understand that the system to be learned is a bad system. The OS is supposed to learn users, be invisible, support him if necessary. But it should never occupy your attention. Show someone who has used Windows all his life, macOS. There won't be much to teach him. He'll figure it out on his own and the system will start to take care of him. Likewise with Android and iOS. Politicians have already tried, but it has not worked.
@@LKirahs Its definitly not a problem with linux. When I switched from Win 7 to ubuntu it was not harder than learning windows 10. But the lobbyism is a really big problem. In Germany we had Limux in Munich that was used in government agencies. But it was killed by lobbyism when microsoft moved their german hq to Munich.
@@orkhepaj I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
And city officials are reluctant to change if something is working really really well. For example many cities use the 'My Print Center' software with their Fuji Xerox printers which works exceptionally well for people who want to print things at a library. This works in a similar way to the Fuji Xerox follow me printing but is even easier to use. I think this system is using Microsoft software for the server and security, but I could be wrong!
@@igorthelight What software is only running on Windows XP? Do you (or anyone) know such a notable example? Also, this sounds a bit weird because Microsoft is always bragging about backwards compatibility (and as far as I know they are doing a reasonably good job on that front).
I've read somewhere that Germany tried for many years, and it end up being more expensive than using windows, since they had to rewrite many applications. In the end they went back to windows
I worked a career in a government IT department. Where I worked there was an overwhelming momentum to keep the Microsoft stack as the first and only choice when building new applications. Staff and management IT folks were almost entirely people who heavily favor the Windows stack. Staff is the big ticket item when calculating total cost and complicating the environment by adding complexity will only add to those costs so there's a huge desire to keep the building blocks Microsoft wherever possible. I think that Windows will own the corporate desktop for the forseable future but that being said I think that LInux is gaining on the back end. When a function is migrated from an on site application to a cloud hosted service, that service will be Linux hosted unless it's moved to Microsoft Azure and even by their reconning, Azure is only 75% Windows and I'd bet that percentage is falling. The last time I heard AWS and the others are over 80% Linux. I'm not really up on how they're building things these days but when I retired containers (Red Hat Openshift, Docker and such) were the big new thing for designing large scale applications. The vast majority of containers (if not all) run on Linux.
Um... I'm in IT and everyone I work with knows multiple versions of Linux. The guys at the top pushed us towards rolling out Linux ( Red Hat ). The big issue was the user base. This was surprising, or not, as all our apps were web based. Even the office suite was Google Docs. And everyone was used to all sorts of apps on their smartphones. Who were these resistant users? As for hardware, every printer, scanner, smartphone we threw at it, just worked. Unlike Apple or Windows. The only issue we seemed to run into was having to use proprietary Linux software, like Nvidia and HP, but that was more of a philosophical issue. Now people want their desktops and laptops to look and behave like their smartphones.
"The IT guys will have to maintain the computers." Oh no, those poor IT guys having to do actual IT support like they did in the 90s. How unfair that they would have to work for their paychecks rather than just hold admin passwords hostage to stave off redundancy.
There's no such thing as the "IT guys" when it comes to specific things! People who took care of Windows machines are unlikely to be able to manage linux machines, you'll need other people, likely more expensive...
From where I see it, the push for Linux is most likely to come from countries who aren't the best of friends with the US. If and when it becomes obvious to those governments that keep using Windows is an existential threat, it becomes a matter of national security (which it is) and MS will very quickly get the boot.
@@jangamecuber yes officially - they are beginning the process but China's Windows fleet is far too large to replace at once or even in a decade. Plus software support and funding is just not there yet.
We do use Unix/Linux; however, each administration has its own owner (lobbyist). So far we moved from Solaris to HP Unix to SuSE and RedHat then to AIX in the course of 25 years.
The issue I find with Linux is that there has to be in house support depending on what you customize. Windows gets support from microsoft and government officials seems to like that because lot of them are not well informed when it comes down to tech.
@@Blueeeeeee Old leaked documents from Microsoft talking about how big of threat Linux is and their worries about open source software. And also a few ways to try and take down Linux, which looking at the popularity of Windows today succeeded.
@@stephen9849 It was no secret that under Steve Ballmer they trashed Linux and said how bad/immoral it was in their view. It was under Satya that Microsoft went pro Linux having been anti Linux for years. Not many people know this, and you have to be a real fanboy of Microsoft to know this, but Microsoft actually used to sell Linux before Linux even existed! Before Linux there was Unix, which Linux is based on. Microsoft used to sell a version of Unix called Xenix. It was not a massive success compared to DOS/Windows, so when people poke fun at MS they actually sold Unix before Linux existed!!!!
I’ve got complete control over what we use in my business. But, honestly, Linux is a PIA for a business. You nailed it in this video. Printers, custom software, and MS Office are the backbone of business. Even more common software, like Quickbooks, are questionable under WINE. As more things move to the cloud, it will get easier. I use Linux on one of my home computers but honestly I rarely use it. If I need to do some work at home, the Win machine allows me to work better than Linux. Linux is great for servers but as a user OS it is a niche product and not worth the lost productivity.
Going to be honest with the training part, I gave my dad a laptop with Ubuntu with gnome as the environment and he had an easier time then with windows. My dad doesn't really do computers.
With regards to the printer support thing, they could use an cheap Windows PC disconnected from the internet but connected to the internal network and have it act as a print server. Also, for the old pieces of software, Wine *is* an acceptable solution, because older software often works *better* in Wine than in newer versions of Windows!
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In Kerala (a state in India), we use customized Linux distributions for government purposes. For example, in education sector, we use a customized version of Ubuntu 18.04 and all the computers in schools are installed with it. We teaches all the students how to use Linux instead of Windows and saved over $400 Million.
😲😲😲😯😮😮
actually pretty neat, I bet kids there could probably learn programming and other tech jobs pretty easier if they learn about the command line properly in school
@@yoplait3256 yes there is a special club for students called Littile kites where they teach programming (Scratch&python) animation (Kden live, blender, tupi tube) malayalam typing (our native language) and robotics and ai with Raspi
True ♥️♥️♥️
400 million :O
Fed contractor here: other than the reasons you gave, it's basically word, onedrive/SharePoint, and the fact that a lot of people working in government are barely able to do basic tasks in Windows
Yeah training all that personnel is going to be tough
Windows is much more familiar to most people. In order to get more people and governments to switch to Linux, Linux developers would have to make their software more intuitive and user-friendly to make up for the lack of familiarity. Except most of them would much rather chew their own arm off than do that.
@@perforongo9078 Regular users don't use software that falls into that category. I mean double click on chrome, it opens, it works... ok what's the issue again? The core issue for most industries is the lack of industry specific commercial software. AutoCAD doesn't run on linux, Photoshop and 3dsmax don't run on linux, etc. However with increasing numbers of applications transitioning to web based platforms, the transition becomes easier. Regardless, the transition to linux will not be driven from the USA, but rather it's adversary's and other governments who don't want to be dependent on a closed source solution from their rivals. This in turn will eventually create a momentum that causes major software vendors to adopt linux, consumers in those counties to do the same, and ultimately trickles back to the US eventually killing off windows entirely once even consumer applications and games wind up needing to support it to secure sales overseas.
@@TheLinuxEXP also, word is a barrier at the individual level rather than just organizational. I literally have to use word to do what I need to do at work. Teams, slack, and everything else I need for my job is on Linux, but not word/office. And I am pretty sure it's deliberate.
@@perforongo9078 Linux is already more intuitive and the layout can be made to be pretty similar to windows
In India, most of the govt uses Ubuntu. In school, we were taught how to use Linux and open source apps like LibreOffice, Gimp etc..
No, India is windows user.not ubuntu
@@unomenah I mostly saw India users using Linux and free software . .also some vids were lots of Indian Linux devs present. What you can say?
@@unomenah you got miss information pal.
Only in Kerala i know. Please tell us what's the situation in other states
@@Gokul_Yt oh I see !! 😲 Which subject is it ?
Cuz i never knew that NCERT had text books on computer science, that's why.
Was Linux used in your schools ?
my govt school ( KV NTPC from Kerala ) didn't cuz why should they ?
It is so great for Kerala IT department to embrace FOSS and Linux on offices and schools and syllabus.
Also what was your syllabus btw as well ?
Considering there are staff out there who think turning the monitor on/off restarts the PC, the training element is by far the biggest hurdle to overcome
ok funnny story one of my friends in IT department was going around charging monitors. He got to his bosses office and she said "Don't change that yet my files are open".
So he politely nods and hold a usb drive up to the air vent counts to 30. Swaps the monitors out, and hold the usb drive up the the new monitor.
2 weeks latter she come into his office saying "you made me look like an idiot".
@@JoelFeila
Didn't understand . But cool story
@@xrafter yeah me too
@@JoelFeila try Google translate. It's ok your English was very good. I'm ESL it might be my fault.
@@raandomplayer8589 I'm a native English speaker
I always hear about training. I work as IT support and to be fair typical users have little to no idea of what they are doing. If you replace Windows with Linux, 99% of the people will still need support for almost every task... It is a matter of inertia...
This is so true. A lot of users do not know the difference between a reboot or restart (same thing) or a shutdown let alone how to do it. If it's not pinned to the desktop or taskbar they don't know how to find it from the Start menu. When a user has to access some mainframe server using blah application they don't know the difference between the two.
I'm also in IT and I concur with this.
@@riseabove3082 This is actually where KDE Plasma shines. Right there, on the bottom of the menu, in full words are Restart, Shutdown.
@@nymusicman That's where Win 95, Win 98, Win Me, Win NT 4.0, Win 2000 shined and then the Win XP GUI went into hidden mode or was it Win Vista (I am talking about the Control Panel).
Some additions that MS made to Win Vista was fine but it was mostly moving things around and changing the look. It was change for change sake.
Win 8 and 10 are even worst. They moved things around but the OS is still an OS. They added advertisements, the MS store, automatic updates.
There is not much room for improvements anymore.
I'd like to take things even one step further: job security. Why would IT personnel get rid of their bread and butter? Windows has so many security issues and bugs, it guarantees a lifetime of employment. Plain and simple.
3:40 microsoft has always been silent about pirated windows for home users just for this. to establish windows habit. they didnt get a license price but in a long term they earned much more customers
@justan idiot KMPico one file cmd done. I am dual boot win+ ubuntu, i privated windows 10 in 2019 and let it update monthly.
And also there's ads on the start menu so even if it's pirated they have revenue(this is just a guess).
I came here for this comment !! Thank you!
@@truongtongquang295 😂😂😂 majority people does same thing 😂😂😂
True, most use priated windows in India for ages and now every 90s kid is a windows customer lol.
I feel schools, in general, should introduce Linux to students who want to pursue an IT or Computer Science major!
Here in Russia I had classes on Linux in uni (they were quite a breeze for me coz used it on my laptop for quite some time)
Wish I had that in school
I am angry on my school for teaching with Windows primarily and introducing all sorts of pirated softwares such as Photoshop.
Linux adoption is increasing at a fast pace here in India, and almost all of the village schools are teaching Linux!
Agreed. Libraries should follow suit.
I'm sorry, I think you arguments are coming 10 years too late.
In today corporate and administrative world, the OS of individual workstation do not matter too much. What matters is the fleet management, cloud data, identity and rights management.
On all those front, Linux itself do not offer anything, and it is normal as an OS. But it does not either integrate very well with industry standard like Microsoft365 or google enterprise.
I think this is the reason for the lack of adoption.... And probably a business opportunity.
From where I stand, I love Linux for my application servers but as a desktop for pro work, it doesn't meet the bar.
You don't have to install solitaire... Lol
Hahaha fortunately
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fortunately for them, Ubuntu comes with advanced in-built Solitaire capability!
Fedora kde has kpatience preinstalled with 12 different game modes of solitaire
Windows 10 doesn't have solitaire
As a retired software developer who worked in the public sector, I can say Linux is used in science and even military applications. Not all applications, of course, but some crucial ones.
Here in Russia we use our own distributive called Astra Linux, it was specifically developed to use in government facilities.
Not sure abt Moscow oblast, but here in Novosibirsk I didn't see ANY government-related personal computers running any Linux distro, just regular Windows 10 or 7 everywhere (and some of them are not activated, lmao)
@@lmnk they all use windows 10 where I live
@@randomname2437 lemme guess, Moscow?
@@lmnk no
@@randomname2437 that's mostly about the general usage .(( bcs ofc we all were teached to pirate win 7 and that's just in our blood ()(
I think it is important to do the transition step by step.... such as..
1. Make the daily-use programs web-based (Chrome/FF)
2. Use open format
3. then change the OS
Yeah, there are steps to the process, and Linux just isn’t a drop in replacement
And cross-platform software too. For example: government social media using Inkscape even on Windows instead of Illustrator or Affinity, so that if the transition is ever made, it will be far closer to being seamless.
Personally, I started using open office instead of word/excel. No reason our government couldn't do that immediately. I'm not sure what most governments are using for email. No reason they could not use web based secure email. But there are some proprietary accounting programs which would need some close examination.
@@christopherf8160 Is OpenOffice still developed? I thought the developers had moved to LibreOffice instead. I use OnlyOffice btw
I really hate the step 1.
Petition for Nick to do an entire episode in thicc French accent
EDIT: I just remembered that my school's syllabus has now replaced Windows and Office with Ubuntu and LibreOffice for all grades, glad to see even young children learning free software from the start
Yes
@Lennart Odeberg its a language that originated from europe though
yes. On his Onlyfans account, should windows use the linux kernel ;-)
Are you a mallu ?
@@man-with-a-plan No
As an information, the brazilian government migrated to Linux in 2006. But recently started to transition back to Windows due to... well, that sweet licensing money.
:-(
BR sendo BR.
well THIS is why you should get bolsonaro out lol
@@florianfelix8295 yes, good point
@@florianfelix8295 actually there are so many reasons to take him out that this one gets down below on the list. Dude can't wear a fucking mask wtf
I worked at NASA and outside of Mission Control, where a Windows server failure would potentially mean dead astronauts so UNIX was relied on instead, the bulk of JSC ran on Windows and Apple Macs.
US is backwards, even in science. In 1959 teacher told us we would be metric soon. Haha
@@johnrieley1404 I heard it in 1975 too. The U.S. was supposed to be on the metric system by 1980.
I wouldn't say backwards, that is not only false but misleading. The US is a global leader in science and tech inovation. All scientific fields in the US use the metric system first. Even in my job we use only metric and it is a US based company. It is just difficult for adoption in the average household but in the end, why does that matter? Other than the quick stab for a joke, there isn't a need for metric in everyday use when imperial works fine. Its just a matter of preference. I use imperial but can easily use metric. It doesn't matter to me and I really don't care.
@@clifflogan7974 Even in Canada, India, South Africa, Australia and the US most household and food products are sold with imperial / metric labels. I found it was easier to learn math for electronics when using metrics and scientific notation.
The Russian army and the French Gendarmerie (national police) each have their own special Linux distro that they only distribute internally.
Also North Korea
I am from Turkey and we actually have a distro called Pardus, which is getting more and more popular among the public buildings due to low spec computers and the appeal of not leaving any traces of sensetive information.
Yes
Yea I tried Pardus. From a daily simple user point of view I never understood why they felt the need for creating their own distro. Anyways I currently am using Fedora serves my needs
with erdogans backdoors?
@@siclucealucks not really, the source code is public and looked it up, found nothing. I think you should be more worried about the big tech companies collecting your data instead of a Turkish president
hey I didn't know about Pardus, looked it up and it looks like a great OS, way to go neighbors (I am greek) good job! ;-)
"Goddammit Lynda, I told you 100 times, it's useradd, not adduser" 🤣
Hahah this still trips me up
@@TheLinuxEXP I took a screenshot and sent it to my brother as we always have to Google the right one
There is a command called "adduaser". I've had to use it to add accounts to the sudoers file
But is the other way around... why someone would use useradd instead of adduser!
Sauce?
Working in a business environment, the hardest thing I see that would keep Linux adoption from a purely operational standpoint is Active Directory and Group Policy. With an office of a few dozen maybe it isn't such a big deal but with a few hundred, suddenly that wide sweeping authentication and management is critical.
If anyone has any experience with open source alternatives, I'd love to hear about it.
Stop talking sense, it’s evil bogey men and deep state actors holding it back.
Idk about Group Policy haven't tried implementing it yet on a GNU/Linux server but in my homelab I've set up Samba Active Directory which is open-source equivalent of Microsoft's AD on a Debian 10 Server.
Correct me if I'm wrong I've just started diving in this free area I don't even know how to write iptables but would learn soon.
^This is the big reason. It's doable in Linux but it's no drop in replacement and require some major network emgineer retraining. These networks have been AD based since NT3.51 back in the early 90s.
Group policy is included in Ubuntu by default
@@CrypticConsole not as comprehensive as windows
The point about a lack of Linux training is extremely true from my experience. I have taken two separate Linux courses in the past (one of which is a college course), and for both classes, even the instructor was not qualified to teach about Linux and always ended up shifting the focus of the class towards literally anything. The instructor for the first class even said "Just take the exam, I'll give you an A no matter what you get because I don't know much about Linux."
LOL
College in a nutshell right there
Let me guess, community college?
20+ years back, I had to compile a Linux sound driver myself to even listen something, so fundamental.....
Today Linux has lead a light year and on par with Windows/Mac, from pure OS stand points.
Today, some website asked me to compile xar. I think it is a decompressor or something. It didn't work since dependencies were missing. It's the usual dependency hell on Linux where 1 software needs 20 libraries.
Just tell me where to get the fricking executable and where to put it.
@@louistournas120 I'm confident you can use tar to compress/decompress xar archives.
Not really. I wanted to install Waterfox on Linux Mint and I spent 20 mins just trying. Desktop Linux is ironically a walled garden like iPhone. If it is not on app store or repo you need to suffer (almost feels like jailbreak) to get something installed.
@@mexodroid1848 Ubuntu is even worse - it used to be my go-to but now I stick to Mint.
@@dankspider6854 No, this xar thing is something else. It uses OpenSSL, I think version 1.02.
Also, I was going to use it on a Mac OSX image that I downloaded from Apple. I need to convert it into an image so that I can write it to a USB stick, then I will install on some mac laptop someone gave me.
"The lack of knowledge [that Linux exists] is killing linux [adoption]" - THAT.
Agree that's the real issue and general people Is lazy to learn something new
@@eduardosanchezbarrios5810 it also does not help linux is not exactly “average joe friendly”. I mean look at the root file structure for god sakes... even though I prefer it, i can perfectly understand the average joe liking windows more
@@okene To be fair I would say Linux has come a long way. User friendly ? Maybe not, but it's getting close
@@Blueeeeeee once you learn the bare minimum of how to operate in a linux-distro its way more user-friendly than windows
I kind of see that as being 'self-fixing', just because over time several of the techies on the team who understand the advantages will become senior enough to be able to influence those decisions. I'm kind of an optimist, so I may well be wrong :)
About training, I think the biggest part about this is the actual IT departments, not necessarily the users themselves.
I heard Linux IT guys are usually more costly and hard to find than Windows IT guys
I can't imagine they are pricier, but certainly harder to find. Since most buisnesses and stuff use Windows, most Admins on the market are only experienced in setting stuff up in Windows, so that's that.
But yeah, I don't think users would be the biggest problem either. The main obstacle is propably Microsoft Office, or better the lack of it. Long time Office Workers can be a BITCH when it comes to that. I remember, when MS released Word 2007, with the new (and 1000 times better) UI. They ranted and screemed like you've murdered their whole family, because for some reason they can't handle ANY change whatsoever. Forcing them to use an Alternative is TOUGH, because they simply can't be bothered to use a Tool with slightly different UI.
Other then that however, not a big issue. The OS itself is absolutely no problem, login it works as usual, place the right icons on the right place, and that's about all.
I have absolutely no idea how business choose software and how IT companies choose to develop solutions, but for example, I’ve been working on a chemical production plant, and for controlling the machines they were using Windows xp, but I can’t understand why this software was not system agnostic or working with a proprietary OS
@@alessandromauri93 I service lab analysers. Most still use XP or Win7 to run the equipment.
I have only encountered 2 systems using Unix like OS, one was using QNX and the one below uses Xubuntu (based in Brescia)
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@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 I wonder if a bit of job loss fear would help adoption? We're Interviewing people today happy to use Linux and libreoffice, if you can't adapt then I guess..
@@paulg3336 I don’t know if laugh or cry about it 😂😢
I think beat windows will be a long and hard way 😅
I have a very small business (a 200 room hotel). I stipulated all IT must be Linux. Was difficult at first because most of the reservation and payment software (and passport scanning software) is written for Windows. I have, however, managed to find alternatives for just about everything (including the passport scanning software). I wrote the reservation system myself (a web app, used PHP/MySQL/Apache). Does what I need it to do - can see where I am at any point in time from anywhere in the world. The only exception at the moment is the accountant (she uses some Windows only accounting software), but I'm going to change that very soon.
Yea, good :-)
You are very committed to this. Nice to see. Once more adopt this there should be more project for that stuff maybe. Anyways you could theoretically make the software you wrote FOSS which would be cool or leave it just for you and no one else or proprietary but FOSS would be the nicest
You can try running that accounting software on Linux with Wine, well you can write your own programs then maybe you would've already tried that but a few days ago I was caught up with this same problem too but with a few workarounds I was able to migrate that organization's ERP Suite to Linux on Wine.
I respect your commitment, well done
@@armannschelander2725 It's not necessarily commitment - it's pragmatism. I don't have to worry about lengthy concerning pseudo legal terms and conditions and licensing fees, I don't have to worry about deployments and setting up new machines, I don't have to worry about staff visiting dodgy websites and being asked to install XYZ.
I donate generously to all of the projects my business depends upon, and will do so each year (so long as I'm profitable - took a huge hit last year/this year due to irrational covid regulations rushed through - huge losses, so have had to really tighten my belt).
Anyway, my main point is from my perspective, Linux (on the desktop and back-end) is a logical and practical decision/solution, and not one based on my love of Linux :)
I think you are forgetting a very important point. That is Integration. When you are using Windows with Office 365 you have everything from one Vendor it makes it very easy to integrate your stuff with one another.
And I am sorry to say it, but there is no real Office-365-Alternative out there that can really compete with that complete suite of tools that it offers. Every tool by itself might have a replacement for Linux but they do not have this "universal" touch and feel where you can learn how to use one program and you will be able to use the others with ease.
And when I think of many peoples struggle when switching from Windows XP to Windows 7, I don't think they will be able to handle a change to a decent linux system.
Google Workspace fills this void.
Office tools are not the main tool in big public organizations. Most of the heavy lifting is done with specific tools tailored to the service. Currently most of those tools are server based with browser front-ends. And soon everything will be like it due to the need to make the services accessible online for the general public and the growing tendency for work from home solutions.
So there is no real case against Linux at the workstation level.
Great and true video. The only thing that is SLOWLY changing is the software portion. Since most things are turning into web/cloud base programs, this enables a lower barrier for that for software.
All of John Deere's equipment runs on Windows CE 4, which hasn't been updated since 2013.
ALL OF JOHN DEERE'S EQUIPMENT RUNS ON WINDOWS CE 4, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2013.
John Deere effing sucks! They are horrible offenders in the right to repair battle raging right now.
ALL factory NOT use newer windows machine control. no newer because not have safe and stabile OS all use linux because have safe and stabile and no newer have problems.-
I’ve seen textile companies running Windows 95 and OS/2 warp because that’s what their 20-year-old machines are controlled by - FULL STOP.
Then again, there will come a point that the malware doesn’t run on win 95 or OS/2 either 😄
This sounds like a rant I gave about IOT devices in a comment on someone else's video.
And the problem is what now? If it works for them, it works for them.
Just a small reality check - I used to do consulting for a company that ran software from the 1980s on an IBM mainframe on an OS that didn't receive major updates in 14 years.
Sometimes stuff just works and there's just no compelling reason to change it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"It's old!" isn't an argument that holds any weight on its own. Heck, the wheel was invented thousands of years ago, yet it's even become a proverb that reinventing it is a stupid idea.
Wait a minute, as far as I know: the USA Govt and Military uses GNU/Linux, specifically Red Hat Enterprise Linux on their systems.
To expand, there's a list of them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters
I mean yeah military cant be dependent on a ill timed windows update that can cause global annihilation lol
@@soham7510 Enterprise Windows doesn't have forced updates. WSUS exists for exactly this reason.
Thanks for the link. It's really informative.
Sure for critical systems and servers but for office PCs? They do love their MS Office Products.
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The Air Force actually makes their distro
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@@kingofgamesyamiyami6269 i was joking -_-
They should teach the employees how to use LibreOffice on windows first and then everything fall into place when switching to Linux desktop OS. Printers and Scanners are another issue. Generic drivers can provide basic functionality of these devices.
It sucks. Libre sucks.
@@gold9994 how so?
@@raahimfareed the layouts, it messed the entire documents, the spacings.
Try wps office or onlyoffice instead, better reliability with microsoft office.
@@gold9994 If you know how to use libre office, then it wont suck. I mean, ODF format is there for a reason and MS Office supports it perfectly and vise versa. As for WPS Office, I personally found them spreading trojan through their updating system. They are a spyware that keeps evading all AV's because their main product is not a malware, but they deliver it. More like a backdoor.
Better to use Libreoffice with ODF format and convet to PDF through the 'export to pdf' option. Works perfect.
@@chrisbitus1328 guess what, i never faced any problem with wps, be it virus, dataleaks or anything else. So, I'll stick with it in ubuntu and microsoft office in windows.
The problem is not about linux or windows, the problem is that there's just too many people out there that doesn't even know the basics of a computer, and linux being inclined closer to the bare machine presents trouble for them to do their "basic" things which relied on the basic computer knowledge they lack completely. So the hurdle here is not about switching the OS, it's supplementing them with the sufficient computer knowledge that windows unhealthily skipped
Windows 11 and hardware requirements could tip the balance in Linux favour if the community can get its act together. Best approach would be something like Zorin. Just a thought.
Let’s be honest here. It will not. Vista couldn’t do it, 8 couldn’t do it and 11 is objectivelly better than 10 in every way
@@Scheiseposter Huh? Windows 11 is abysmal 🤣. But I agree it still isn't going to tip the scales. The best thing happening in favour of Linux right now is the Steam Deck. It's a Linux handheld gaming PC. The more people buy it, the more important it becomes for game developers to natively support the Linux OS with their games. This could then push the OS out to more software developers and cause a domino effect. The Deck is already outselling expectations.
@@InsidesGames Tech reviewers already are saying Steam Deck is meh :D like i was saying it would be since announcement. And yes, Win 11 is objectivelly better than Win 10, more stable too
When Microsoft drops support for Windows 10 I'm changing my laptop from a dual boot system using CentOS 8 Stream dual boot on an external USB drive over to the internal hard drive Windows 10 resides.
but the Linux community won't get their act together, it's the same old story over and over again
Linux is used in many public institutions here in Brazil. Actually, the plan, years ago, was to have a massive adoption, but it was mostly a failure due to lack of real investment.
Brazil still is one of the references countries in the free software law movement, the country has one of the most massive adoption of free software movement
As a network admin in a public institution with years of market experience in huge companies I can assure one of the reasons government institutions are so slow and unproductive is because of this.
Just to make clear, because they use Linux they are so slow.
It's not linux fault, but the way everything works in the government plus some of the shortcomings of Linux.
When people comment in this type of video they think when a Huge company decides to use Windows they pay the same price a user would pay. Let's say a Windows License is US$200, if you buy 10 licenses is US$170 if you buy more probably US$150 or even lesse depends what more you bundle with this purchase. You bought office licenses too? Even cheaper, remote desktop licenses? More cheaper, Windows server and CALs?
You pay less with every license you buy.
And them comes the real price the price of support, you can pay for software assurance and support tickets while you are buying your licenses.
Or even better you could buy your computer with Windows and support.
Now imagine a small office with 50 employees which is more expensive:
50 Windows licenses costing US$130 each and US$6500 total, two Windows server licenses costing US$900 each US$1800 total, 50 licenses of Microsoft 365 each costing US$150 per year or US$7500. Plus a IT guy costing US$50.000 per year for a total of US$65.800.
Or a Linux guy costing US$80.000 per year?
@@foca2002 Lets say Trump2 comes to power, and US declares (cold) war to Brazil.
Goodbye everything you run on windows. All your data on google etc.
@@sanjios well United States declared war on Iraq two times, is enemy of Iran and China and Windows installations are still running. Microsoft opens Windows code for audit to governments you can look up.
In the end the only thing that counts ist time and money. In government the decision makers in many countries rule only 4 top 5 years. Any IT project in public administration for Linux will take a lot longer than that. Second, the life goes on, say new laws require new solutions, and requires manpower and budget. So who will decide to spent a lot of money in Linux transition and cease other projects, if you can make an undisputed decision to develop a solution based on Windows? Third, from my own experience, many commercial software ist only supported under a specfic distribution and with a third party software stack. Enterprise IT lives from standardization, not from having several ways to to the same. and finally, pleased don't compare OpenOffice or LibreOffice to M365 of today. Yes, IT Costs much more than the old way to buy an Office license for a given version and use it for 10 years, but it saved our asses (Personal view AS IT guy) in this COVID times because it made made mobile working much easier and faster to deploy. Still, we are using Linux on servers (VMs) too but this are mostly web applications developed for Linux.
I think moving away from windows and all that proprietary tracking that comes with it is a good idea to make sure there won’t be anything malicious happening with the files of the citizens
In my opinion Governments need to use Open Source software. As a citizen the Government needs some information about me but I then want to at least know how this information is handled. With proprietary software I can't be sure that this information isn't stolen by private companies even though I would be very privacy cautious personally.
Yeah but they don't want you to know what it's used for.
This video brings me back. ~15 years ago I was enrolled in my Civil Service year and I worked closely with a local PA; I pondered the business opportunity of converting PAs to open source solutions.
My idea to make a first dent in the system would have been to push adoption for Office alternatives first, offering not only installation and set up, but training and a "1-to- 1" support in converting their documents to open standards...
You spoke well Nick!
That describes my everyday battles when the discussion goes to infrastructure.
Also "Lobbying" is usually the greatest factor of all. You cannot fill pockets with air!
On the other hand how can you convince someone that spend a big amount of money and time to leave their secure place (for something better in my opinion)!
After wannacry hit, most government systems in the education sector have switched to Linux in Kerala, India. This should pave way for Linux adoption in other sectors as these kids grow up knowing how to use it.
In my college, every computer students use from the library to software dev labs used some variant of Ubuntu.
Even the Government of India is heavily focussing on Linux & RISC V Combo!!👍
ubuntu fails
At least until there's a ransomware for Linux distro families.
Old people just go where the money is. Computer security would be massively increased if we switched to the penguin. (At least in theory)
I think that if everyone switches to linux, 1st: security will be less (like windows) because people will have a reason to hack linux and 2nd: isn't it much better when we are linux experts when others struggle to use windows?
@@unicorn_tamer fair point
@@unicorn_tamer Security through obscurity doesn't quite work, as Linux is used everywhere, and thus hackers love to study it and try to find vulnerabilities to infect servers. About the experts thing, I think it would be nice of everybody could use the better option: Linux. It would mean more eyes on the code, more contributors and more improvements. Everybody ends up with a higher real state that way.
@@softwarelivre2389 this is true but I mean, if everyone does amazing things then you cant be something more than the others and sometimes, it's good to know something that others dont. But of course it's important to have more programmers available to write code and do unbilievable things however big tech companies (like microsoft and apple) can invest on this to make more money
@@unicorn_tamer I disagree. I've been doing things my colleagues couldn't my entire life and it only made me mad that they couldn't do it, which made me the one who would have to do it in the end. Not cool. The same way they did amazing thing that I couldn't. I don't want to be better than the rest, I want the rest to be as good as I am or even better, and then I will do my best to become evem better, creating better colleagues and a better myself.
One of the biggest Reasons: Microsoft Office. Seriously. You just cannot change to another Programm. Long time Office workers are unable to adapt and change for the life of it.
I remember, when MS released Office 2007, and therefore switched the whole UI. The new Layout and stuff was superior in ANY imaginable way, easier to navigate, more intuitive, easier to use - but all of the people that used Office 2003 and previous versions were furious and acted like you just murdered their whole family.
If you force those people to use eg Libre Office, expect nothing less, then full fledged riots and maybe a little civil war.
Doesn't libreoffice have a MS office style layout?
@D Reaper have you ever dealt with office folks?
Yeah, there are similar looking solutions out there, and I don't get either, why it HAS to be MS office, since eg Libre Office has 99% the same features at all.
But even the tiniest changes drive those office folks NUTS. honestly, I've never seen this behavior anywhere else , but with those tools for those people, you'll make them blood thirsty maniacs if you change anything about their office suits.
This exactly. Anyone who touts that Libre et al are compatible has never tried to share complicated documents and/or macros. The last two companies I worked for relied heavily on VBA, active directory, heck it took until 2009 to finally get rid completely of the truly awful Lotus Notes
@D Reaper I'd hope so but either it needs to be 100% compatible with MS or it needs to be MS. Now I've packed in work for 99% of what I need libre office works fine. Tax return it's got to be Excel, principally that's why I keep Windows on a VM.
@D Reaper As I am out of the country non resident I have to submit with and approved application. It just so happens that the one I settled on of written in Excel VBA.
Printer support in Linux with cups is excellent! I am amazed what it can detect, even stuff where MS doesn't have any updated drivers for, cups will figure out what postscript to talk to it and it works! It's bizarre!
I used to work in a government environment and I feel like it's more that the people there are either 16 years old or 80 years old with no in-between and Linux is more of a 30 year old kind of target audience
Switching to Linux have problems, but all of those problems are political.
Definitely
This is the real killshot.
nope
They are in Germany :P ..but I would like to see all goverments take the budget allocated for Microsoft products and donate it to the FOSS projects.
FSF would be richer than Musk 😂
Oh not donating to the FSF. Donating to the projects themselves.
@@TheLinuxEXP I admit that I did not follow the controversy around the fsf too much
I’m from Germany, not all govt uses it. Only a few offices.
@@TheLinuxEXP that is what i said :) to the FOSS projects ;)
Actually, they use ubuntu in my local hospital. That's the only time I've seen anyone around me use it, and it's also a pretty old version
I've seen Ultrasound equipment boot up with Gentoo on the post screen
@@0ctatr0n that would make me so happy if I was in the hospital about to undergo a procedure :)
I think ubuntu offers paid security maintenance and technical support for 14.04 and 16.04 Lts versions only.
Where did you see it?
I see it on some medical devices, along with for some bizarre reason windows CE. YES in 2021 you can still get equipment running Windows CE. In this case an endorectal pressure sensor. Which is just as fun as it sounds.
@@M167A1 just a random work computer in a hospital, they were even using firefox as their web browser
IMHO the hardest step to take before even consider a migration is: can I work with open source software? Is my productivity at risk? Can I swap MS Office with LibreOffice? PhotoShop with GIMP? Autocad with ... whatthehellCAD? This migration can be done, one step at a time, while using Windows, only after that a migration could have sense.
Some government offices in India are also switching to Linux based OSes from what I heard. They even have developed the interface in more than 5-6 local languages, and that includes libreoffice also.
These videos are getting more and more entertaining! Well done as usual!
Thanks :)
Back in 2006, Richard Stallman came to India, and somehow convinced the government of Kerala to switch the computer school curriculum of an entire state from Windows to Linux!
Edit: Wow! I just wrote not hoping anyone to notice, but I got to know so many other good things about open source flourishing from the replies!
That's the right place to start ... schools!!
@@janscholtz6297 Right! Torvalds learned unix in school and after he graduated, he wanted to keep using it, so, he wrote the linux kernel.
Wait, they teach Linux in Kerala? Seriously?
@@theodiscusgaming3909 Yeah, I've heard they use Ubuntu in their systems.
@@janscholtz6297 You will be glad to know that Indian schools are now teaching OpenOffice [instead of MS Office] to the students, but it would be better if LibreOffice is taught.
Governments need to adopt an open source where possible policy. E.g. adopt liberoffice on Windows and require that be used. Then if an individual specifically needs Excel, they are given an exemption. In this manner over time, the ecosystem moves over to open source.
I moved a 500 bed hospital to Linux in 1996 and they still use it today. My IT staff loved the change and the other staff had almost zero learning curve. Our custom HIS system is web based so no users noticed the switch. When lab & radiology systems didnt run on Linux, we rejected them from consideration. We had a windows only radiology system and we told them we were go I g to drop them if they cant make it work under Linux. My IT team assisted in getting it to work under Linux and we got 1 year free license for doing so. It was a MAJOR win ($$$) for the hospital too. It was a risky move but i got full support from the CFO & CEO
Tbh. 1996 and 2023 are very different when it comes to switching IT systems. Software hasn't changed that much in the past years, so any change is going to be huge. If you just switched from DOS to Windows 3 and then to Windows 95 you are way more open to the idea of switching again than if you switched from Win 7 to 10 4 years ago and didn't change anything since then. Also there are a ton of different smaller issues, like the Excel file your department has been using for 20 years. It is definitely possible, but it is also definitely more difficult today.
@@moritzm.3671 totally disagree users have no idea of the underlying o/s. Even the GUI under Linux is very similar to Windoze.
Switching today is much easier as most apps are web based and the majority of web servers ARE Linux.
As far as any Excel files, they all run fine under Libreoffice.
The benefit of gnu/Linux isn't that it doesn't cost money. Governments Must use gnu/Linux because the source code is visible and can be modified (or pay someone to modify) to suit your needs, so you aren't at the mercy of just one private company
Well said. Perfectly presented and explained.
Thanks :)
I couldn't help but laugh when you said that governments and adminstrators are the most productive people 🤣
Ok..You are officially my favorite Linux channel now!
Your research is on point and I love the humor you add to it so so much😊
Thanks :)
People in government service are always spending other people's money, not their own. Also, high level managers that work for large employers, and governments are some of the largest employers in the world., are complacent at best. They want to be able to have someone to sue when, not if, something goes wrong.
Actually I was taught how to use Linux ( Ubuntu ) in school and college. And college professor (I study engineering) promoted using linux for coding related tasks and asked atleast to dual boot. First I was hesitant even to dual boot. But now linux (Fedora + gnome 40) is the only OS in my laptop.
You missed the fact that many orgs use MS backend software like Active Directory. Linux may allow connecting to LDAP, but it won't support group policy and single sign on may be limited.
True!
SSO with a Linux desktop and an AD backend isn't too complicated to configure, you just need to join the domain/realm and configure your PAM stack to grab a kerberos ticket a logon (and renew it periodically). For modern distributions, SSSD should handle it out of the box (or close enough). You can also configure Apache and Jboss on a Linux server to authenticate through SPNEGO. One issue is that AD Kerberos tickets can be very large if the user belongs to many AD groups as MS has overloaded the comment field with a group enumeration. This is actually also an issue for IIS and other MS products. Group Policy used to be supported through a third party solution but it is now supported natively through SSSD.
These are excellent points. Having done a lot of work with government here in South Africa, I have also found that they tend to go out on tender for many of the big tech procurement and development purposes. Companies that bid tend to offer a general solution, reliant on the assumption of Windows, Office, Outlook, etc. When developers bid for systems development work, they work towards a one size fits all solution.
Hello. This was on my recommended. Nice video! I wanted to add a few comments to this. Manjaro has a built in HP Office center software or app. If the copying machine or printer is an HP brand it will work. I am surprised you didn't mention Ten. That was a Linux experiment in which NASA worked with the USAF (is my understanding). It is still around but I have no clue if anyone is using it. I think more governments need to experiment with Manjaro (Plasma). It has KDE connect built in and the buttons are in the same place as Windows. Start button is on the bottom left along with file explorer
Never heard of Ten I know for a fact few people at NASA use Linux and if they do it's red hat. I think the highest concentration of Linux users at NASA is at the glen research center.
I spend 90% of my time in a web browser anyway when I'm not working. And when I am working, I want my OS to "just run the programs I need". Sometimes it's Linux, sometimes it's Windows. That's why after 15 years of switching back and forth I still run dual-boot systems on machines I use every day.
Indian government has started encouraging use of open source softwares. and it is also actively contributing to open source projects + it has also open sourced some of its innovative platforms like the cowin portal. Univ professors are also preferring linux over windows and we are getting to see it being used at several governmetal departments.
My father's office use Linux BOSS mostly
I open terminal which runs neofetch initially
Seeing this my friends: He is a computer wizard🪄😮
Btw, the first 3 seconds were amazing😂
I run pfetch in my .zshrc cause it's faster
@@KSPAtlas ye same
Harry you're a Linux user!
To be honest in my elementary school they use edubuntu an education version of ubuntu.
To the design clas we used to use plazma kde.
Yep we had it too, though we generally hated the computers, too slow and they weren't using windows. Well now I would have been glad to use one but back then I didn't know much except windows = good
Thank you, Nick. There is no reason. But there is no reason for starvation, homelessness, poverty, or continuing to follow economic illusions about eternal financial growth either.
Frankly, you being French never crossed my mind until I hear the French accent.
The fact of the matter is, as much as Linux GUI has improved in recent years, Windows has been, is and probably will be for the foreseeable future lightyears ahead of linux and macos in terms of quality of life features, in terms of how easy it is to use and in terms of how intuitive it is.
Windows is very intuitive. You figure you can't do it and you're right!
Yap.
But Linux also doesn't have the money nor the people to be caring a lot for UX. They prefer to invest their resources into functionalities.
If Linux had more resources things would be different, but that is sadly just a dream.
@@ivanf.8489
Yeah that's true. They spend their money on functionality and security.
Windows spends a lot on UX, and macos.... I actually don't know, they're kinda garbage in every category, yet they get funded like crazy xD
@@techtutorvideos
Ooof, I could spend hours listing each and every objectively inferior feature that macos has compared to windows xD
But I'm just going to leave it at that, been through this a hundred times and the result is always the same.
Imagine, if he uploads a video, in which he ENTIRELY speak in French accent.
That would be unbearable
@@TheLinuxEXP yea
@@TheLinuxEXP thanks for heart btw. :-)
Thankfully Microsoft is making it easier to move away from Windows by changing the UI and making it harder to customize beyond their vision of the OS.
And by making it incompatible on devices that are more than 4 years old.
@@chlorobyte_projects Yeah, and that too. e-waste nightmare. At least the machine will run Linux.
For the first time I'm hoping that Microsoft wouldn't drop that 8th generation CPU and TPM requirement because that would really motivate the masses to shift from M$ to the free land of GNU/Linux.
@@erenwayne Microsoft wasn't wrong about all the BS they were saying about you making the choices. You can just move to Linux if you don't like having to buy a recent PC.
You Linux guys are the biggest dreamers
I "love" how a furniture shop had me downloading Adobe Reader because the pdf format they use will literally not open on any other software capable of viewing PDFs...
Libreoffice has a good PDF export option. Works perfect. However there is another pdf editor for temporary usage on Linux (forgot name). Adobe reader for now runs through wine properly. Crossover may be your solution.
LOL Having worked for the United States Postal service. Most employees wouldn't have the brain power to run anything that didn't come with solitaire installed on it by default. The U.S. Navy paid Microsoft a few million dollars to keep up support for Windows Xp. So they didn't have to retrain members of the fleet. And most ship's systems all ran Win XP. Go figure.
I live in Brazil. More than 20 years ago the federal government started to use Linux instead of windows in public government sectors for economic purposes. Past all this time, they are reverting back to Windows. They claim you do save money on proprietary OS', but you spend all or more of this money training people...
3 seconds in and I've already put a like on your video 🤣
Nice!
Literally me
Same
@@softwarelivre2389 lol
@@TheLinuxEXP 69, but hey nice.
I want in the future to found my own little business, and from the start I'm gonna buy hardware that is linux-ready, and have all PCs with Fedora for the corporative login service.
Wait until your employee asks you for a Mac 🤣
U can get Mac in virtual machine on Linux if you really want it I think there's high sierra
@@vvr4th980 no gpu acceleration plus the employee gonna want a proper mac, plus that's also illegal as a business u have to respect the apple eula its not the same as when ur using it personally and dont have to care
@@noobian3314 well that sucks
@@vvr4th980 meh, Linux kinda sucks in general anyway. Better not fighting the grain and just giving people windows or mac
In my mind if linux get starts to get largely adopted one of two things may happen, Microsoft will feel the pressure and become less complacent, like how AMD has come and 'shook up' the cpu market etc. Or two Microsoft feels the pressure and tries to find some way to halt linux adoption or try to absorb linux into itself. (What I mean by absorb is like windows sub system for linux, in my opinion I think its cool, but a part of me feels this is Microsoft attempt to try and cater for the few thing that might make some switch to linux exist in windows, and make them stay there
Nope, even though Linux has a small user base there's no way M$ can absorb it, It isn't the same case like of Minix using any cuck license, It's GNU/Linux👍. It's too big even for M$ to take over on.
Yes you are correct they wont succeed in absorption. I just don't think MS will be a "good sport" if Linux starts to get some market share
I think they already did that thing where they support Linux apps in Windows...then again, it's been a good three years since I switched to Ubuntu and goddamn it am I ever going back to anything else
I worked for a company that used Linux for thin clients and had all the windows apps we used in a server in IT. It started up really fast and made updates much easier than places I had worked before, but I think lots of people wanted to be able to personalize their desktop, etc and eventually we went back to desktops.
I guess Nick felt funny when editing the video
I moved to Linux because for my workflow its perfect. For the pandemic, because of the lack of computers in my house I had to use a raspberry pi as a main computer. Honestly it was hard at the beginning but now I use it all the time since the work Im doing is just browsing the web, writing code and file editing (aka university work) and I feel like its work perfectly fine. Of course I feel that if you want a gaming, specificlly AAA games it not a good idea. The gaming I do is retro games so its fine.
I love Linux and it still gives me tons of issues with various laptops and monitors. I can't imagine the average user wants to troubleshoot that much like us.
I'm having lots of "fun" trying to get Linux Mint working correctly on my Thinkpad. I don't mind doing the troubleshooting and finding fixes but I know an average desktop user would be beyond lost trying to navigate this.
Hybrid graphics is a PITA to get working correctly.
Sleep/shutdown don't seem to work. Going to sleep just takes me to the lock screen. Shutdown doesn't actually shut down the laptop; I have to hold the power button until turns off
The 4G modem has no Linux support. Tried following some forum posts for that particular model to no avail.
USB wifi adapter has no official Linux support from Netgear. I tried following forum posts for that model also which didn't work either.
I get weird audio glitches occasionally over HDMI
@@JJFlores197 same here. I have this laptop that just keeps rebooting randomly on linux. It works fine on windows 😑 but maybe we have to accept that not all hardware is meant to accept Linux
Let's me guess. Nvidia?
3:33 that's apple's passive marketing, to engrave apple products in our subconscious
I would argue that people who have used windows their entire lives are almost entirely clueless as to how it works. It is absolutely shameful how little the average person know how to do anything
I worked at a Large Mining Company. The main reason we could not use Linux was due to ISO9001 certification and liability. We needed guaranties, why we used Microsoft and Cisco, because we needed Guarantied Service Agreements. The main question is who do you call when stuff blows up, with hardware & software who can you pass liability too and sue when fault causes downtime. On Linux the Corporation responsible for all support, I cannot call Linus Torvalds with a kernel bug. Does Debian offer 24/7 Support, on a moments notice?
When the pandemic started and and classes in my University were moved to an online regimen Microsoft offered the office suite to all students for free. What better way to get the future specialized workforce to depend on their solutions? It's a pretty smart move on their end imo. I on the other hand have convinced a few classmates to use open source tools to do the assignments instead lol
Currently doing summer homework in LibreOffice on my Linux Mint machine
Freedom and transparency is not the best friend of politics...
This is not a politics problem, it's a Linux developers problem. They don't understand a simple thing. They cannot put themselves in the shoes of people outside of IT. Completely different mentality. They don't understand that the system to be learned is a bad system. The OS is supposed to learn users, be invisible, support him if necessary. But it should never occupy your attention. Show someone who has used Windows all his life, macOS. There won't be much to teach him. He'll figure it out on his own and the system will start to take care of him. Likewise with Android and iOS. Politicians have already tried, but it has not worked.
@@LKirahs Its definitly not a problem with linux. When I switched from Win 7 to ubuntu it was not harder than learning windows 10. But the lobbyism is a really big problem. In Germany we had Limux in Munich that was used in government agencies. But it was killed by lobbyism when microsoft moved their german hq to Munich.
Why are governments and administrations NOT moving to Linux? Answer Microsoft Mafia
nah win is just better
@@orkhepaj Objectively, it's not, and in fact it hinders your work. The migration process is the complicated part.
@@orkhepaj It's okay, You'll wake up to reality soon.
@@erenwayne okay mr linux fanatic , so tell me how do you use your linux?
I bet it is constant searching solutions for problems only linux has
@@orkhepaj I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
And city officials are reluctant to change if something is working really really well. For example many cities use the 'My Print Center' software with their Fuji Xerox printers which works exceptionally well for people who want to print things at a library. This works in a similar way to the Fuji Xerox follow me printing but is even easier to use. I think this system is using Microsoft software for the server and security, but I could be wrong!
Every major windows up date requires a full scope training effort so the training issue isn't really that different.
A better question: why are they using XP (sometimes)?
becuase the programs were never updated to newer windows versions
Because programs were written specific to Windows XP
Updating those applications costs money.
Money that they just don't see the point spending.
@@igorthelight What software is only running on Windows XP? Do you (or anyone) know such a notable example? Also, this sounds a bit weird because Microsoft is always bragging about backwards compatibility (and as far as I know they are doing a reasonably good job on that front).
@@iras66 Sadly, I can't say anything specific. That's what I heard a few times and I have no ability to check it myself.
Windows XP was Microsoft's last OS that actually *worked*--it was and remains their best OS.
I've read somewhere that Germany tried for many years, and it end up being more expensive than using windows, since they had to rewrite many applications. In the end they went back to windows
It’s more expensive in the short term, yeah, but in the long run? Way cheaper
I worked a career in a government IT department. Where I worked there was an overwhelming momentum to keep the Microsoft stack as the first and only choice when building new applications. Staff and management IT folks were almost entirely people who heavily favor the Windows stack. Staff is the big ticket item when calculating total cost and complicating the environment by adding complexity will only add to those costs so there's a huge desire to keep the building blocks Microsoft wherever possible. I think that Windows will own the corporate desktop for the forseable future but that being said I think that LInux is gaining on the back end. When a function is migrated from an on site application to a cloud hosted service, that service will be Linux hosted unless it's moved to Microsoft Azure and even by their reconning, Azure is only 75% Windows and I'd bet that percentage is falling. The last time I heard AWS and the others are over 80% Linux. I'm not really up on how they're building things these days but when I retired containers (Red Hat Openshift, Docker and such) were the big new thing for designing large scale applications. The vast majority of containers (if not all) run on Linux.
It all boils down to application compatibility in the end. Something Linux still struggles with.
Um... I'm in IT and everyone I work with knows multiple versions of Linux. The guys at the top pushed us towards rolling out Linux ( Red Hat ). The big issue was the user base. This was surprising, or not, as all our apps were web based. Even the office suite was Google Docs. And everyone was used to all sorts of apps on their smartphones. Who were these resistant users? As for hardware, every printer, scanner, smartphone we threw at it, just worked. Unlike Apple or Windows. The only issue we seemed to run into was having to use proprietary Linux software, like Nvidia and HP, but that was more of a philosophical issue. Now people want their desktops and laptops to look and behave like their smartphones.
"The IT guys will have to maintain the computers."
Oh no, those poor IT guys having to do actual IT support like they did in the 90s. How unfair that they would have to work for their paychecks rather than just hold admin passwords hostage to stave off redundancy.
Are you gatekeeping the IT support?
There's no such thing as the "IT guys" when it comes to specific things! People who took care of Windows machines are unlikely to be able to manage linux machines, you'll need other people, likely more expensive...
From where I see it, the push for Linux is most likely to come from countries who aren't the best of friends with the US. If and when it becomes obvious to those governments that keep using Windows is an existential threat, it becomes a matter of national security (which it is) and MS will very quickly get the boot.
Didn't China recently switch to linux
@@jangamecuber yes officially - they are beginning the process but China's Windows fleet is far too large to replace at once or even in a decade. Plus software support and funding is just not there yet.
Munich is another interesting case. They switched to Linux some years ago, then back to Windows, and are currently switching back to Linux again.
We do use Unix/Linux; however, each administration has its own owner (lobbyist). So far we moved from Solaris to HP Unix to SuSE and RedHat then to AIX in the course of 25 years.
Here in Brazil, at least on my state, all the public schools use Linux Mint!
The issue I find with Linux is that there has to be in house support depending on what you customize. Windows gets support from microsoft and government officials seems to like that because lot of them are not well informed when it comes down to tech.
This is already the case, it's called Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Can you do a video on the leaked Halloween documents from Microsoft about Linux?
Wait, what's that ?
@@Blueeeeeee Old leaked documents from Microsoft talking about how big of threat Linux is and their worries about open source software. And also a few ways to try and take down Linux, which looking at the popularity of Windows today succeeded.
@@stephen9849 Huh, Microsoft being Microsoft I guess
@@stephen9849 It was no secret that under Steve Ballmer they trashed Linux and said how bad/immoral it was in their view. It was under Satya that Microsoft went pro Linux having been anti Linux for years. Not many people know this, and you have to be a real fanboy of Microsoft to know this, but Microsoft actually used to sell Linux before Linux even existed! Before Linux there was Unix, which Linux is based on. Microsoft used to sell a version of Unix called Xenix. It was not a massive success compared to DOS/Windows, so when people poke fun at MS they actually sold Unix before Linux existed!!!!
I’ve got complete control over what we use in my business. But, honestly, Linux is a PIA for a business. You nailed it in this video. Printers, custom software, and MS Office are the backbone of business. Even more common software, like Quickbooks, are questionable under WINE. As more things move to the cloud, it will get easier. I use Linux on one of my home computers but honestly I rarely use it. If I need to do some work at home, the Win machine allows me to work better than Linux. Linux is great for servers but as a user OS it is a niche product and not worth the lost productivity.
Going to be honest with the training part, I gave my dad a laptop with Ubuntu with gnome as the environment and he had an easier time then with windows. My dad doesn't really do computers.
Same here. I helped set up Ubuntu on my fathers pc years ago. Helped him a lot.
With regards to the printer support thing, they could use an cheap Windows PC disconnected from the internet but connected to the internal network and have it act as a print server. Also, for the old pieces of software, Wine *is* an acceptable solution, because older software often works *better* in Wine than in newer versions of Windows!