i use the electronic brakes for the most part, theres very little need to brake really hard except for emergencies. its a good way to preserve the actual brakes and its components.
Good info for the 10X owners out there, thank you. I love the K-wheel damper on mine. As for the creaking.... Early tip from Falcon PEV was to alternately tighten the stem clamps multiple times, top one/ bottom one/ top one bottom one, and so on, as each time one is tightened the other becomes a bit looser. After doing this alternate tightening several times, the stem is really rigid, and there is no creaking. I believe a lot of those beefier collars are sold due to lack of owner awareness of this procedure. I shy away from that upgrade because it makes folding a lot less convenient. Using correct technique provided by Falcon, don't find I need it. I'll check out your brake bleed post for the some day I will need to do it!
Hi, thanks for the positive feedback! Yes, I think those heavy duty clamps are probably not essential if you pay attention to the way you tighten the factory clamp. Ride safe!
@@MarksElectricLife I disagree, I’ve been using my 10X for a while now, put over 2k km on it and I’ve had to replace my whole collar. After tightening it over and over the metal starts to stretch slowly and it gets to a point where you can fully close it and you’re unable to tighten it any more.
I also have a 10x,you did cover in general the tightening of front and back end.The fasteners that hold the top of each shock should be paid special attention too,they back off easily due to the forces of course but the top of those shocks coming loose and dropping onto the tires is a world of hurt in the blink of an eye,I use heavy loctight to hold these in.
These are more like maintenance reminders and not the issues. Brake bleed is quite common, and often needed out of the box, specially for rear brakes, since the more you fold the stem the more rear brake cable bends and creates unwanted pressure and air bubbles. And well bolts should be checked all the time and every few rides.
Fair point. That said I think these things should have been checked by the seller before the product went out the door. Imagine if you picked up a new car and one of the front wheels fell off the next day, I think you'd be pretty angry with the dealer for not doing a proper pre-delivery. Also, if it is your first scooter you don't know what you don't know. I just thought the creaky stem was normal as I'd heard many other owners complain about it.
If you fold the stem down you will find 2 small metal grub screws that tighten against aluminium that wears down and is the stem creek noise . Tighten them a little and it goes away . Also put a dab of thick grease right where they rub !
My 8mm stem bolt was also loose, I caught mine brand new out of the box though setting it up and got the right advice from the place I ordered. The heavy duty clamp is also a must, I agree. Living in UK waterproofing with silicon is also advisable.
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment. Yes, waterproofing (or the lack of) is probably the biggest gripe I have with Zero scooters. Hopefully they will address this in future models.
@@MarksElectricLife can you give me a link to the end bar mirrors you have there? (I live in England) Were they easy enough to equip and how have they improved your confidence /safety. Thanks. (I'm only looking for a right hand mirror, not both)
@@DanceySteveYNWA Hi I'm in Australia and bought them on eBay here : www.ebay.com.au/itm/363094163281 You will probably find someone on ebay where you are who sells the same item or similar. Yes, I think anyone who rides on the road without at least one rear view mirror is crazy. It's like driving a car with no mirrors - you are an accident looking for a place to happen. I felt much safer as soon as I fitted them. Tried two other styles that were useless before I got these. First was the one with a bendy stem. It wobbled too much. Second was like a motorcycle mirror but smaller. It couldn't see around my body. These are the best type to get. They were also the least expensive. Good luck !
@@MarksElectricLife ah yes, they look like the same model/type as some Hafny branded ones Ive seen on Amazon. Thanks for the information, appreciate your help and advice.
One thing i find out when buying an escooter. Don't trust that it is installed properly and screw are screwed in properly. And don't trust they bleed your brake properly and ready to go.
Got this escooter a few weeks ago. All the bolts are tight but the stem is a big dissapointment. Feels like rubber! I'm scared of hanging on to it, I always shift my weight to accelerate or brake so I don't lean into the handlebars. I would make a sturdy one but that means rewiring the whole thing!
First tip. Get rid of those skinny stock tires and buy the aftermarket street tires. Then, replace that narrow handlebar with a wider mountain bike carbon fiber bar. Makes all the difference in the world
well done on the video!! ive got a machine fox dual 1200w scoot that seemingly randomly develops insane wobbles... caused a few broken bones and im not sure why it happens... ive just wound up the shocks but haven't taken it back out yet... any suggestions appreciated!!!
Hi MC, I don't really know much about the Machine Fox but its design looks similar to the Zero 10X. I guess you have done the obvious thing and checked that all the bolts are nice and tight. The only other thing that comes to mind is perhaps you have a badly unbalanced wheel. Usually that shows up at certain speeds. Have you noticed it happening at the same speed everytime ?
@@MarksElectricLife cheers for the reply... I've noticed it at mid speeds,30ish km/h. Done 150km now and it's happened 4 times, all at different places/terrain... It's what brought me to your video!! Bolts are all tight, almost no stem play... Once I'm healed up I'll be back it to test the tightened shocks...
Hi Christopher, thanks for your comment. Are you riding a Zero 10X or another model? Was it caused by a loose stem bolt or was there another cause? How did you fix it ? Cheers! Mark.
If a bolt is done up correctly, it should never come loose. If it vibrates loose, then it was never done up properly in the first place. (Or it is the wrong type of bolt for the job)
I've got my Zero10x with ZOOM front brakes hardly doing any job. Service technician at the dealer bled them and they were fine for couple weeks. Then stopped doing any braking... Went back to the dealer, got fixed them again. Unfortunately they did not last long. I was informed that next time I will be charged for the service plus the dealer is quite far from the place I live. So there is a dilemma... should I get bleed set from Amazon or maybe whole new braking set. What is your thought on that?
Hi KT, your situation sounds familiar to me. When my scooter was new it had spongy brakes and I was advised by the seller to take it to a bicycle shop and ask them to do a bleed. However the bicycle shop didn't have the right fittings for Zoom brakes (these are very different to the common bicycle brands like Shimano and Nutt). So all they could do was open up the master reservoir, top up the oil and pump the brake lever a few times. This did improve the braking but it didn't last very long. After a week or two they were as bad as before. So the first thing I would do is ask the dealer whether they actually bled your brakes or just topped them up. If they only topped them up then I would definately suggest buying the bleed kit and doing it properly yourself. If they actually bled the whole system and it still isn't working then you will need to buy a new brake set. Good luck ! Mark.
Yo, I’m 15 and thinking about saving up for this exact model to get around Brisbane, would you reckon it’s worth it ? Also, really glad to see both small Australian TH-camrs, and older blokes TH-cam content, most of the stuff about the 10x is usually outside of Australia. Definitely subscribing and sharing around.
Hi Eduardo, not sure what you mean by A5 suspension. The wheel diameter is 10 inches and the suspension is designed to allow enough travel for the 10 inch wheels. I have had no problems with it so I assume the design is fit for purpose.
Still useful video in 2023. Loving my 10x! Also I find it amazing that you got so much across in 6 minutes in a SINGLE take. Well done
i use the electronic brakes for the most part, theres very little need to brake really hard except for emergencies. its a good way to preserve the actual brakes and its components.
TRUE! I found out of the electric brakes a week ago, and its just so much better
Good info for the 10X owners out there, thank you. I love the K-wheel damper on mine.
As for the creaking.... Early tip from Falcon PEV was to alternately tighten the stem clamps multiple times, top one/ bottom one/ top one bottom one, and so on, as each time one is tightened the other becomes a bit looser. After doing this alternate tightening several times, the stem is really rigid, and there is no creaking. I believe a lot of those beefier collars are sold due to lack of owner awareness of this procedure. I shy away from that upgrade because it makes folding a lot less convenient. Using correct technique provided by Falcon, don't find I need it.
I'll check out your brake bleed post for the some day I will need to do it!
Hi, thanks for the positive feedback! Yes, I think those heavy duty clamps are probably not essential if you pay attention to the way you tighten the factory clamp. Ride safe!
@@MarksElectricLife I disagree, I’ve been using my 10X for a while now, put over 2k km on it and I’ve had to replace my whole collar. After tightening it over and over the metal starts to stretch slowly and it gets to a point where you can fully close it and you’re unable to tighten it any more.
i just figured out the same method today with top then bottom then top. now i have 0% creaking and i saved money on a ridged clamp!
Apollo Pro (OG) owner here, super helpful and to the point.
I also have a 10x,you did cover in general the tightening of front and back end.The fasteners that hold the top of each shock should be paid special attention too,they back off easily due to the forces of course but the top of those shocks coming loose and dropping onto the tires is a world of hurt in the blink of an eye,I use heavy loctight to hold these in.
Thanks WR, that sounds like very important advice! I'm going to check mine right now...
Great info bruda - we woulda like to see up close to get an exact visual on the bolts you were discussing but still appreciate the sharing :) cheers
These are more like maintenance reminders and not the issues. Brake bleed is quite common, and often needed out of the box, specially for rear brakes, since the more you fold the stem the more rear brake cable bends and creates unwanted pressure and air bubbles. And well bolts should be checked all the time and every few rides.
Fair point. That said I think these things should have been checked by the seller before the product went out the door. Imagine if you picked up a new car and one of the front wheels fell off the next day, I think you'd be pretty angry with the dealer for not doing a proper pre-delivery. Also, if it is your first scooter you don't know what you don't know. I just thought the creaky stem was normal as I'd heard many other owners complain about it.
If you fold the stem down you will find 2 small metal grub screws that tighten against aluminium that wears down and is the stem creek noise . Tighten them a little and it goes away . Also put a dab of thick grease right where they rub !
Super useful video and very well presented and explained. Thanks!
Thanks for the positive feedback OMD ! You are lucky to have progressive scooter laws across the dutch. Ride on !!
My 8mm stem bolt was also loose, I caught mine brand new out of the box though setting it up and got the right advice from the place I ordered. The heavy duty clamp is also a must, I agree. Living in UK waterproofing with silicon is also advisable.
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment. Yes, waterproofing (or the lack of) is probably the biggest gripe I have with Zero scooters. Hopefully they will address this in future models.
@@MarksElectricLife can you give me a link to the end bar mirrors you have there? (I live in England) Were they easy enough to equip and how have they improved your confidence /safety. Thanks. (I'm only looking for a right hand mirror, not both)
@@DanceySteveYNWA Hi I'm in Australia and bought them on eBay here : www.ebay.com.au/itm/363094163281
You will probably find someone on ebay where you are who sells the same item or similar. Yes, I think anyone who rides on the road without at least one rear view mirror is crazy. It's like driving a car with no mirrors - you are an accident looking for a place to happen. I felt much safer as soon as I fitted them. Tried two other styles that were useless before I got these. First was the one with a bendy stem. It wobbled too much. Second was like a motorcycle mirror but smaller. It couldn't see around my body. These are the best type to get. They were also the least expensive. Good luck !
@@DanceySteveYNWA Dead easy to fit also!
@@MarksElectricLife ah yes, they look like the same model/type as some Hafny branded ones Ive seen on Amazon. Thanks for the information, appreciate your help and advice.
Nice to see you wearing safety gear.
Excellent video my friend!!
Very good video! I wonder what keys do you need to screw all bults?
Hi Adam, you need a set of metric hex keys (Allen keys), ranging from 2.5 - 10mm.
One thing i find out when buying an escooter. Don't trust that it is installed properly and screw are screwed in properly. And don't trust they bleed your brake properly and ready to go.
Got this escooter a few weeks ago. All the bolts are tight but the stem is a big dissapointment. Feels like rubber! I'm scared of hanging on to it, I always shift my weight to accelerate or brake so I don't lean into the handlebars. I would make a sturdy one but that means rewiring the whole thing!
Get the rugged clamp upgrade. The larger bracket stops this exaggerated stem wobble on acceleration. Why its not standard is beyond me.
fabulous info...I had no idea that there was a bolt up there :) Cheers from Canada
Hey Timothy, thanks for the positive comment. Really glad you found this info useful !
It would be a good idea to move up to 3" tires rather then the 2.5's.
Far better control and ride comfort.
First tip. Get rid of those skinny stock tires and buy the aftermarket street tires. Then, replace that narrow handlebar with a wider mountain bike carbon fiber bar. Makes all the difference in the world
well done on the video!! ive got a machine fox dual 1200w scoot that seemingly randomly develops insane wobbles... caused a few broken bones and im not sure why it happens... ive just wound up the shocks but haven't taken it back out yet... any suggestions appreciated!!!
Hi MC, I don't really know much about the Machine Fox but its design looks similar to the Zero 10X. I guess you have done the obvious thing and checked that all the bolts are nice and tight. The only other thing that comes to mind is perhaps you have a badly unbalanced wheel. Usually that shows up at certain speeds. Have you noticed it happening at the same speed everytime ?
@@MarksElectricLife cheers for the reply... I've noticed it at mid speeds,30ish km/h.
Done 150km now and it's happened 4 times, all at different places/terrain... It's what brought me to your video!! Bolts are all tight, almost no stem play... Once I'm healed up I'll be back it to test the tightened shocks...
@@Madchuck42 Good luck brother! Wear good gear 😉
Great video & tips.✅
See you again soon.🆒
Thank you.☀️
Thanks Rex !
just after 2 weeks my handlebars come loose,after riding on it back and forth to work
Hi Christopher, thanks for your comment. Are you riding a Zero 10X or another model? Was it caused by a loose stem bolt or was there another cause? How did you fix it ? Cheers! Mark.
If a bolt is done up correctly, it should never come loose. If it vibrates loose, then it was never done up properly in the first place. (Or it is the wrong type of bolt for the job)
I've got my Zero10x with ZOOM front brakes hardly doing any job. Service technician at the dealer bled them and they were fine for couple weeks. Then stopped doing any braking... Went back to the dealer, got fixed them again. Unfortunately they did not last long. I was informed that next time I will be charged for the service plus the dealer is quite far from the place I live. So there is a dilemma... should I get bleed set from Amazon or maybe whole new braking set. What is your thought on that?
Hi KT, your situation sounds familiar to me. When my scooter was new it had spongy brakes and I was advised by the seller to take it to a bicycle shop and ask them to do a bleed. However the bicycle shop didn't have the right fittings for Zoom brakes (these are very different to the common bicycle brands like Shimano and Nutt). So all they could do was open up the master reservoir, top up the oil and pump the brake lever a few times. This did improve the braking but it didn't last very long. After a week or two they were as bad as before. So the first thing I would do is ask the dealer whether they actually bled your brakes or just topped them up. If they only topped them up then I would definately suggest buying the bleed kit and doing it properly yourself. If they actually bled the whole system and it still isn't working then you will need to buy a new brake set. Good luck ! Mark.
@@MarksElectricLife Thank you for the reply. I agree with your suggestions. Greetings from Toronto :-)
My VSETT8 brakes from 25km to 0 in 3 meters and and it uses drum brakes
I find my brakes are TOO sensitive. Even a tiny press of the brake levers is almost too much, mine need to be loosened just a tiny bit.
That's the beauty of hydraulic brakes haha finger braking
aLSO CHECK YOUR REGEN SETTING...
Hi there . Does your country sell used electric scooters?
Hi, not as far as I know.
pity
Where did you purchase the dampner
Hi, the details are in the Description section on my other video here: th-cam.com/video/X77rWgAoREU/w-d-xo.html
Good vid mate...very informative ;)
Thanks digger !
Thank you as well. Good video.
Thank you !
You're right!
Lol, practically every hydraulic brake system needs bleeding out of the box.
Zero10x is a very dangerous scooter
Yo, I’m 15 and thinking about saving up for this exact model to get around Brisbane, would you reckon it’s worth it ? Also, really glad to see both small Australian TH-camrs, and older blokes TH-cam content, most of the stuff about the 10x is usually outside of Australia. Definitely subscribing and sharing around.
Hi, please, what is your experience with this A5 front suspension? is the 125mm model? Is the front of the scooter not too low?
Hi Eduardo, not sure what you mean by A5 suspension. The wheel diameter is 10 inches and the suspension is designed to allow enough travel for the 10 inch wheels. I have had no problems with it so I assume the design is fit for purpose.
@@MarksElectricLife my question was about your front air suspension, what is its diameter? Is it 125mm or 150mm?