o unico orgulho que tenho de ser brasileiro é que esses caras " Rodolfo Vieira, Xande Ribeiro" e outros feras como Saulo,Evangelista,cobrinha...também sao brasileiros.depois de Airton Senna meu orgulho é o bjj.
Love to see the show of respect at the end of the match. These two men are top-tier competitors, both want to win so badly. Afterwards though, is time to show you are a man. Much admiration and respect.
Excellent comments. Everyone I knew in judo who gave BJJ a real go, meaning more than just an occasional visit, never returned to regular judo training, myself included. I think most of us came to the same conclusion you wrote in your 100 percent-correct assessment.
Yes, there are such rules in Judo competition, which mainly exist to penalize passivity (note that passivity penalties also apply in BJJ). The leg touching rule is a very recent addition to IJF comp rules and only applies to direct attacks, not counters and combos. And yes, I think guys who are experienced in nagewaza and less expert in newaza will generally not pull guard in BJJ comps. Check out Koji Komuro and Dave and Dan Camarillo who all bring high-level judo into BJJ competitions.
You might also note that the whole concept of the 'black belt' is an invention of Jigoro Kano's. There is no universal law that means that wearing a black-coloured obi has to mean you're an expert. At the Kodokan (where the 'kuro-obi' originated) achieving the level of shodan (1st degree Black belt) merely signifies proficiency. It's roughly equivalent to a BJJ blue belt. Have you ever studied judo? What level is your bjj out of interest?
I love their style of Jiujitsu: no guard pulling or playing the 50/50 position. Always start the fight standing up and trying to establish a dominant position by throwing and then go to the ground.
Great match. The proper winner is Xande, but the advantages were given out to liberally to Vieira in those throws. Anyone can see that 5 or 10 seconds more would have meant points for passing the guard for Xande. Still, great match, and my hat's off to both of them.
good gosh..probably his white belt students that just joined the class and think they are his best friends..."Xande can i take your go home and wash it for you"?
@ericc2 I know that BJJ do includes Judo throws for BJJ, if you're telling me indirectly that BJJ's throws are as competent as Judo's is like saying Judokas should be dominating all these tournaments, if you're telling me that these 2 are not Judokas either that's wrong too, both of them are BJJers and Judokas, they have belts in both martial arts. But no, the Judokas dominate in Judo matches and the BJJ players dominate in these matches, my point is a cross training in Judo and BJJ will result in the BJJer with a stronger take down game. To perform throws like this requires a hell lot of training from Judo, there are many Judo throws in competition which aren't clean either, like drop throws etc etc. It's obvious Both of them cross trains in Judo. Have you watched Xande's video where he Randori with one of Tenri's best Judoka? The reason why both stand up because they know a good throw would get them ontop without having the hassle of passing guard, and this match proves it. That a combination of BJJ, Judo and whatever wrestling they cross trained results in this.
linda luta, a forma com que os dois lutaram foi ecepscional, porem, rodolfo ribeiro atualmente é na minha opnião o melhor lutador de jiu-jitsu que há :) ele se destaca entre os meus favoritos, que são: Ramon lemos, andré galvão, RODOLFO VIEIRA e não podendo faltar membros da familia gracie Rickson e mestre Helio Gracie.
Probably because nagewaza is way harder than newaza! I do both and there can be no doubt that learning ground-fighting is a lot easier and less frustrating than learning to throw. Plus it's hard to find good judo clubs outside Japan. And all that stuff about stalling and illegal grips is while true, doesn't mean jack. All the guys at my gym do that and I throw them around easily.
tbh the claim is kind of meaningless if you turtle and end up giving up your back rather than accepting your guard got passed, like many competitors do.
not really, seeing as jiu jitsu rules are formed around fighting on the ground. you have to hold your opponent there for the takedown to be counted as completed. otherwise you would have guys winning matches by taking their opponent down and letting him back up again for the points (not jiu jitsu).
Well, i'm asking..don't they have grip, posture, no leg touching rules? Or..would a Judo player prefer to try and throw in a Bjj match instead so they don't violate some dumb rule? And then maybe hold the pin since their ground game isn't too advanced.
Nonsense. That's like saying BJJ had to "modify it's rules to make it work" by banning guard slamming. The rules don't "make it work" they just facilitate more interesting and safer matches.
decent judo for a bjj match, but I can't help but think that even a decent blackbelt in judo would have been able to throw either one of these guys without much trouble. I'm more kinda just surprised the match took that direction without one or the other pulling guard.
Bonito de vê o Xande rolando, joga justinho, o Rodolfo ganhou por causa das quedas no começo, se tivesse mais 3 minutos o Xande tinha passado a guarda e levado luta!!!
Yes, they are both judo black belts, but so am I. So what? Just because they are black belts, doesn't mean they're any good. Just watch Xande sparring with Takashi in preparation for this year's Worlds. You'll see the difference between good stand up and bad!
I've been seeing a lot of stuff lately on the childish bjj judo debate... I take after shinya aoki in this debate... It's your jitsu... I go to a judo school but am a ne waza specialist... I like goin to events like Naga. I end up throwing people around and working ground.. ive been told I fight like a jj ka on the ground and its just what works for me.. but I have a judo stance. And do a lot of throws..
Watch with the sound OFF. You're welcome!
The Madness ur right
o unico orgulho que tenho de ser brasileiro é que esses caras " Rodolfo Vieira, Xande Ribeiro" e outros feras como Saulo,Evangelista,cobrinha...também sao brasileiros.depois de Airton Senna meu orgulho é o bjj.
7:25 foi épico...
Good fight. Good throws. Nice stand up. This is where the cross training of Bjj and judo really shines.
Love to see the show of respect at the end of the match. These two men are top-tier competitors, both want to win so badly. Afterwards though, is time to show you are a man. Much admiration and respect.
2020.... acho q foi umas das lutas mais duras do Rodolfo
Dois monstros ..
que lutão, parabéns aos dois, pelo que o jiujitsu brasileiro esteja la fora agora, porque aqui no brasil não se da valor aos atletas....
beautiful to see them fighting..rodolfo and xande are defnatly otwo of the most complete jiujitsu fighters ever..
10 more seconds and Xande would've had the points for passing. Damn.
the 2 of them are just masterful fighters...Thanks for the upload.
Um show de profissionalismo e esportividade! #orgulho
Belíssima luta com dois atletas excepcionais, técnica,força, agilidade e muinto mais.....
muito boa a transmissão, obrigado.
2 of the BEST! I love watching either of these guys..
Xande Ribeiro fiquei ainda mais seu fã depois dessa luta, muito tecnico, e calmo!!!
Excellent comments. Everyone I knew in judo who gave BJJ a real go, meaning more than just an occasional visit, never returned to regular judo training, myself included. I think most of us came to the same conclusion you wrote in your 100 percent-correct assessment.
esta luta foi muito dura. estão de parabéns. o nível esta muito bom.
Esta ponte que xande fez chega ate repia isso coisa de um mestre de verdade de jiu jitsu duas
Fera do nosso esporte.
one of my favorite matches to date between any two BJJ competitors
Única coisa chata é a galera gritando Xandi o tempo todo véi kkkkk ! São 2 feras ae !
amazing judooo! respect for both
AND he DID get an advantage point for every take down.
Great match its like judo I might try bjj
Muito boa luta! Cheia do básico e essencial.
Yes, there are such rules in Judo competition, which mainly exist to penalize passivity (note that passivity penalties also apply in BJJ). The leg touching rule is a very recent addition to IJF comp rules and only applies to direct attacks, not counters and combos. And yes, I think guys who are experienced in nagewaza and less expert in newaza will generally not pull guard in BJJ comps. Check out Koji Komuro and Dave and Dan Camarillo who all bring high-level judo into BJJ competitions.
DOPE! I think some fans of Xande filmed it
You might also note that the whole concept of the 'black belt' is an invention of Jigoro Kano's. There is no universal law that means that wearing a black-coloured obi has to mean you're an expert. At the Kodokan (where the 'kuro-obi' originated) achieving the level of shodan (1st degree Black belt) merely signifies proficiency. It's roughly equivalent to a BJJ blue belt.
Have you ever studied judo? What level is your bjj out of interest?
Two of my fav GOATS
Yes they are black belts in judo also
Ta aí, dois atletas que eu admiro de mais.
I love their style of Jiujitsu: no guard pulling or playing the 50/50 position. Always start the fight standing up and trying to establish a dominant position by throwing and then go to the ground.
Chad Lin guard pulling only for pusses
Monsters. Xande needed 20 more seconds to finish the pass! Rodolfo is one of the GOATs!
I'm very impressed about the level of respect they give to each other, I'm proud of being a jiujitsu athlete
2 Monstros
Lutão complicado só fã dos dois guerreiros jiu Jitsu oss
I love the respect towards these guys
puro spettacolo!!due campioni!
Beautiful match.
salvo pelo gongo! show de luta!
The sequence from 7:01 to 7:20 was sick!
the guys at this level have their own students and followers in the crowds.
Americano torcendo é uma m...kkkkk! Só..."Xandiii"...kkkkk
Brasileiro é o Rei da ginga mesmo!
Que guerra fudida! Good match!
i want to see Rodolfo vs Roger Gracie it would be an epic fight
7 years later, and still no match-up between the two. What a loss for the world.
I love the respect between these two monsters, awesome match
Great match. The proper winner is Xande, but the advantages were given out to liberally to Vieira in those throws. Anyone can see that 5 or 10 seconds more would have meant points for passing the guard for Xande.
Still, great match, and my hat's off to both of them.
good gosh..probably his white belt students that just joined the class and think they are his best friends..."Xande can i take your go home and wash it for you"?
That was crazy when xande landed on his feet to prevent the 2 pointer from the butterfly sweep of his opponent
Carlos Escoto they still get an advantage
@ericc2 I know that BJJ do includes Judo throws for BJJ, if you're telling me indirectly that BJJ's throws are as competent as Judo's is like saying Judokas should be dominating all these tournaments, if you're telling me that these 2 are not Judokas either that's wrong too, both of them are BJJers and Judokas, they have belts in both martial arts. But no, the Judokas dominate in Judo matches and the BJJ players dominate in these matches, my point is a cross training in Judo and BJJ will result in the BJJer with a stronger take down game. To perform throws like this requires a hell lot of training from Judo, there are many Judo throws in competition which aren't clean either, like drop throws etc etc. It's obvious Both of them cross trains in Judo. Have you watched Xande's video where he Randori with one of Tenri's best Judoka? The reason why both stand up because they know a good throw would get them ontop without having the hassle of passing guard, and this match proves it. That a combination of BJJ, Judo and whatever wrestling they cross trained results in this.
Thank you
Roy Muk In my bjj gym we are training Judo and wrestling techniques.
linda luta, a forma com que os dois lutaram foi ecepscional, porem, rodolfo ribeiro atualmente é na minha opnião o melhor lutador de jiu-jitsu que há :) ele se destaca entre os meus favoritos, que são: Ramon lemos, andré galvão, RODOLFO VIEIRA e não podendo faltar membros da familia gracie Rickson e mestre Helio Gracie.
Altíssimo nível !!!!!
Cara que giro foi aquele 7:01-7:04 Tenho que aprender JJ show demais!
I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the people near the cameraman were rooting for Xande Ribeiro...
Very good fight!
Os dois estão de parabéns ! Uma verdadeira aula de jiu-jitsu, porém MAS UM MINUTINHO E O RODOLFO TAVA FRITO EM ! Mas, regra é regra !
Xande Ribeiro é um monstro
Probably because nagewaza is way harder than newaza! I do both and there can be no doubt that learning ground-fighting is a lot easier and less frustrating than learning to throw. Plus it's hard to find good judo clubs outside Japan. And all that stuff about stalling and illegal grips is while true, doesn't mean jack. All the guys at my gym do that and I throw them around easily.
Sounds like students cheering for their instructor.
Caralho... como luta esse Xande!!
Rodolfo vieira e o melhor!! Samos gfteam de sangue parceiro!!
Xande and Rodolfo are Black Belts on JUDO FYI
Coach told me Xande hasn't had his guard passed in 15 years. Immediately put in Xande vs Rodolfo VIerira to see if the claim is true.
tbh the claim is kind of meaningless if you turtle and end up giving up your back rather than accepting your guard got passed, like many competitors do.
What is the name of the judo throw at 2:43??
Lets go shongee
são duas lendas!
que luta dura Rodolfo muito forte xandi Guerreiro o Rodolfo teve muita sorte se tive se mais 10segundos iria pontua a passagem de guarda
Fora que o juíz inventou a queda para o Rodolfo, convenhamos, aquilo não foi queda nunca.
not really, seeing as jiu jitsu rules are formed around fighting on the ground. you have to hold your opponent there for the takedown to be counted as completed. otherwise you would have guys winning matches by taking their opponent down and letting him back up again for the points (not jiu jitsu).
did they not award the guard pass because time expired?
Qual nome dessa queda que o rodolfo usou?
Rodolfo is so explosive and such a beast. Juat beat Xande is really big deal!
wow!!! awesome throws!!!
Lets go Shawn Gee!
Well, i'm asking..don't they have grip, posture, no leg touching rules? Or..would a Judo player prefer to try and throw in a Bjj match instead so they don't violate some dumb rule? And then maybe hold the pin since their ground game isn't too advanced.
30 more seconds and Xande would have had that pass. Incredible match.
Nonsense. That's like saying BJJ had to "modify it's rules to make it work" by banning guard slamming. The rules don't "make it work" they just facilitate more interesting and safer matches.
very good
about them both being BB's in judo, what's your source?
rodolfo fodastico sou seu fa cara
Rodolfo é fantastico , quando ele quer entra em queda ele entra e leva !!
I’m surprised Rodolfo didn’t try to shoot for the far knee off of the Seoi Nage.
decent judo for a bjj match, but I can't help but think that even a decent blackbelt in judo would have been able to throw either one of these guys without much trouble. I'm more kinda just surprised the match took that direction without one or the other pulling guard.
Rodolfo vc é top!! Até mesmo na humildade!
Epic fight!
2 Feras
the mat space looks bigger than normal
Dois monstros do jiujítsu.
AONDE GFTeam Passa faz show
Bonito de vê o Xande rolando, joga justinho, o Rodolfo ganhou por causa das quedas no começo, se tivesse mais 3 minutos o Xande tinha passado a guarda e levado luta!!!
lol did the ref have an issue with the clippers?
Yes, they are both judo black belts, but so am I. So what? Just because they are black belts, doesn't mean they're any good. Just watch Xande sparring with Takashi in preparation for this year's Worlds. You'll see the difference between good stand up and bad!
I've been seeing a lot of stuff lately on the childish bjj judo debate... I take after shinya aoki in this debate... It's your jitsu... I go to a judo school but am a ne waza specialist... I like goin to events like Naga. I end up throwing people around and working ground.. ive been told I fight like a jj ka on the ground and its just what works for me.. but I have a judo stance. And do a lot of throws..
I missed why Jesus boy won? I shouldn't have skipped through. I thought the takedown was the only points scored.
Am I seeing the referees with a formal dress?
But who's shajeee????????
mais 10!
Só os brutos 😝 oss
Xande foi o pé no saco do Roger e o Rodolfo o pé no saco do bochecha,estilos muito identicos!
Gostei da umildade dos dois
Luta linda sem amarraçao esse sim bjj.
Qual é essa queda?
Morote seoi nage