Bermuda Grass VS Zoysia Grass In Shade Test.
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- Have you every wondered if Bermuda grass would be more shade tolerant than Zeon Zoysia grass?, well BYD did a two year study of the affects on Zeon Zoysia and Tifway 419 Bermuda grass. I was amazed at the findings. but there is a Bermuda grass called Tifway grand that may me the zoysia grass eliminator.
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Great video! I have a zeon zoysia lawn and it does well in the shade. It does get a little “off color” from the sunny areas but it is still full in the shade. Btw, Zeon is better in shade than other zoysia grasses. Emerald doesn’t do as well.
Palisade is the best in shade
We have Sir Grange Zoysia (genuine zeon registered by Blade Runner). It is beautiful. The grass looks like a micro-fine blanket all you new is a pillow.. Sir Grange Zoysia DOES spread by both stolons and ryzomes.
This is why I’ll be growing Zoysia when I retire in NC! Great content brother. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting to make it easier for us!
BYD. Love the video. I live in Marietta and have a Zeon Zoysia yard and can confirm mine is still green. Yes it’s expensive so I space out the pieces to fill in. Yes it is shade tolerant. I have it growing in my backyard with tall tree shade. Probably 4 hours total of direct sunlight. I’ve bought the big rolls from Super Sod and yes they were awesome at 1st, But I noticed the sod had cuts in the roots from the machine cutting the sod on uneven farm land. So I had parts die off. IMO North Georgia Turff has the BEST Zeon Zoysia. It seems more shade tolerant. They sell it at Pikes for like $3.50 a square. Plug your yard with the Zeon Zoysia and you won’t regret it. (If allowed by HOA). I had Bermuda grass but the Zeon has completely crowded it out. I also have Emerald Zoysia as well and flat out don’t like it. The Zeon & Emerald are fighting it out right now for space and the battle lines look like a stalemate. The Zeon definitely conquered the Bermuda.
Alexander Evans good info Alexander 👍🏾
Love to see a side by side in mid summer when the zoysia and Bermuda are both doing well.
Truth, a true test
Thanks for the great video! My Zenith Zoysia is in full sunlight, but it's promising to see how well it does in the shade too. As the Zoysia starts to grow out from under the shade and has more sunlight, it will spread faster and eventually choke out the Bermuda. I "THINK" (I may be wrong) that Zoysia will green up sooner in the spring as well. If your HOA doesn't want Zoysia, you may need to nip that in the bud before too long. Also, I did not read all the posts, but Zoysia does spread by both stolons and rhizomes, or at least the Zenith Zoysia does which is a Zoysia Japanica hybrid , but I believe all Zoysia does. Thanks for your other video about crabgrass and Quinclorac. I put that down last fall at half strength with no surfactant on newly germinating Zenith Zoysia seed to be safe, and even then it killed pretty much 100% of my MATURE crabgrass, even at half strength. I would have skipped the 2nd half of the split application (mixed with 2, 4D) but what I thought was still living crabgrass was not crabgrass. Someone claiming to be a lawn professional had posted pictures of goosegrass and labeled it as crabgrass which threw me, and neither touched the goosegrass so I just cut it off over and over at the soil level last fall (about 30 gallons worth) until it died off 100% with the first frost. Hey, who says you cannot have Zoysia in your back lawn and Bermuda in the front and have a 2nd channel called Zoysiagrass Central? Most of the herbicides used for one work on the other safely. And you wouldn't need to put down more Zeon Zoysia - I bought a carbon steel 5 in 1 plugging tool on Amazon yesterday for $39. Just take Zoysia plugs from that corner and put them in the back yard in full sunlight, and fill in the empty plugs with top soil that has starter fertilizer mixed in. I'd say in
Man you put out the coolest video ever existing on Bermuda Grass!
Zoysia seed which is common variety does spread by rhizomes and stolons but the hybrid sod varieties do not. Jus something I learned recently while trying to make a putting green in the yard but still haven't decided on what to get. That zeon looks nice tho. Close to pulling the trigger on the el torro zoysia
Oh snap BYD you are right on time with this video 👍🏽 I just moved to a new house and my backyard is a wreck and hardly any sunlight gets back there. Got to get me some Zoysia.
I would say manage your expectations. Grass does not like beeing shaded out. However at least with zoysia and fescues you can seed to keep it looking nice.
I put some zoysia plugs in a shaded area and they are doing great
Good video. I have icon zoysia and its amazing. It doesnt do as well in the shade it loves the sun, but i love it!
As a Northern guy Zoysia, Buffalograss, and Common Bermuda as all we can use for a warm-season grass
BYD you looking fresh red glasses plaid shirt fresh can't tell you nothing, last time you had on orange shades orange sweater keep it up BYD you got to dress to impress no matter what you do keep it up BYD, and yes you can treat Zoysia just like Bermuda. Thanks for the video
You wont be able to tell the difference between the 2 types. But down fall that Zoyasia will spread threw out your entire yard eventually. Zoyasia is tuff as nails like Bermuda. Great video man
Zoysia is some great grass. Rarely needs cutting, stays green forever, Very drought tolerant. But yes it is very expensive. That's why the plug method is the preferred method of planting. But even that, it's so SLOW growing that the plug rows would need to be rather close together. Unless you don't mind a checkerboard pattern for 2-3 years. But like you it would still be very expensive to cover my 1+ acres. Maybe I'll just do it in 1/4's, front yard first.
Thanks for the video Ilyou help me decide what to get in my lawn due to shade.
Zoysia grass spreads by above-ground stems called stolons and underground stems called rhizomes.
As always awesome video
Thanks for sharing!!
Originally seeded Princess 77 Bermuda, but thins out with any shade. Put in Empire Zoysia, does much better and a lot less to maintain. Great video as usual
Byd overseed it with zoysia grass seed D maybe not even noticias the difference
Yea Princess 77 is beautiful, but it doesn't have great cold or shade tolerance. They are replacing it with Arden 15, but it is very expensive for seed. I am getting readying to put out Yukon in 2 weeks which is supposed to be better than then the P77 in a lot of ways, but not as good as the Arden 15 though.
I could never live in an HOA. my wife is a realtor and some of the people that run HOAs like to play hall monitor and make your life hell.
opichocal yep I once got sued by my old HOA on a false accusation for unapproved exterior paint... long story but I DID used the approved color, and they were wrong. However, due some other events I was officially in the crosshairs. Either way, my brother is a very knowledgeable property/loan attorney and basically said do whatever you can to get along with them, because unfortunately they have an extreme upper hand on homeowners with how the laws are written. Eventually I gave up trying to civilly explain the situation and just painted my entire exterior. Oh, after of course I paid their attorney for the time it took to mail me a letter... it’s BS but be careful peeps.
Warchild sorry to hear that. One more good reason to NEVER buy An HOA property
Oh, I bought a house about 20 months ago and I made very sure the HOA did not apply to how I handle my house, paint, lawn, etc. It's 100% optional and the money paid just allows you to use the pond and playground area and the funds pay for the insurance and upkeep of those areas. HOA's sound good on paper and keep the neighborhood looking better and help keep property values up, but they have too much control over your property that they are not paying anything on, so I'd never move into a neighborhood regulated by an HOA. People have lost their homes due to HOA jerks. I'll never give someone the ability to tell me what to do with the property I own, and those that do, for the most part in my opinion are idiots to do so.
Truth.
I am a big BERMUDA man, but after I put some ZOYSIA down and man what a grass lol. weed free and less work. But ZOYSIA sho is high. Lol but very surprised
(North Greenville SC) I laid caviled thin blade zoysia sod in the shade because my Bermuda was dying in the shade. I get 4hrs of sun a day. But does Xeon zoysia look like and live like caviler zoysia ? A good match?
Great video!
I live in Northern Va in a townhome. My small backyard is shady in morning, sun in afternoon, kind of damp too. I also have 2 dogs. I’m thinking of trying Zoysia. What are your thoughts?
Zoysia tolerates the shade better but won’t recover as fast as the BermudaGrass
Great video!
Thanks 🙏🏾
I started a 800 sq ft patch from seed in my side yard 2 years ago plug it and spread out each year.
Thanks.
How does the church property look right now?
It would be nice to have greener grass until after the Thank Giving holiday.
J Harris not good at all. We had a serious drought. They did not water at all either.
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral Awwww no. They need the "High Quality H2O" lol
I've been checking out "Main Street Mowing" on youtube for more info on Zoyzia grass after watching your video on it. Thanks
Looks like you need to get a ProPlugger to make that little patch of green spread out amongst that wood line. My local sod farm just recently brought back Zoysia to their operation and it is 3.00 a square ft. as opposed to their Tifway419 that runs .63 cents a square foot. At that rate, you’d be looking at more like a 50k dollar sod job and just saying that hurts the wallet. 🤦🏻♂️ It’s going to be a good option for the big ballers or folks with small lawns that have a good amount of shade. Good video and comparison.
Have you tried Trinity zoysia? How does it compare to zeon?
3:43 LAWN TRIGGER WARNING GUYS (Thanks for the video!)
Is there seed for many kinds of bermuda? I know one downside to zoysia is varieties are sod. I can't find any kinda seed. Man if it doesn't feel amazing underfoot though.
You will find that the zoysia starts spreading faster as it matures. The older it gets the better it spreads. BTW it will take over your bermuda slowly but surely.
@ExposingMiLabs Don't forget to fertilize and check soil ph! Zoysia likes it around 6.5. Should soil test at least every other year.
Is that zeon comfortable for bare feet?
Zoysia will slowly take over. If you want to spread it, use a proplugger. I spent 11000. to cover around 14000 sq/ft. It is very expensive, but makes a beautiful lawn. You will find that after it is in for a few years it starts spreading faster for some reason. At least that is what I have found.
1961fireguy that’s good to Hear. Last year I sodded and it’s thinning out and didn’t spread an inch. Hopefully this year it will start moving.
So is Bermuda good in shade? Looks like i have St Augustine but in North Texas the heat can be very extreme. Im thinking Bermuda would be better if its shade and heat tolerant than St Augustine.
BermudaGrass does not tolerate the shade well. 😀
Yes , you guys are correct, I’ve just read it and saw that the zoysia spreads like Bermuda also. BYD stands corrected 👍🏾
does the zeon zoysia sold in seeds?
@@gmog7857 Zeon due to being a hybrid will not produce viable seed. it must be plugged or sodded.
@@WilliamHumphreyD So are you saying there are no seeds for Zeon Zoysia?
@@gmog7857 from what I know
I started my own experiment also, I was a bit more bold then you , cause I did it in my front yard. I HATE Saint Augustine...had a bear patch by my walkway leading towards the house. I do have and HOA, so I went with Empire, since it's bigger blade in comparison to Zeon or Zenith. Let me tell you the leading edge of the runners are like hard spike, you can probably use it as weapon, this this has started to choke out the Saint Augustine that was there.
What happens when Zoysia and Bermuda are up against each other? We are currently building a home and are trying to decide between the two. Our neighbor went with Bermuda. So if I go with Zoysia right against his what will happen? Is it kind of a stalemate or will I need to provide a barrier between along the property line? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!!
Randy Roach I have no idea, I can only say my BermudaGrass will not go near that zoysia test strip in my lawn but it is probably because it is in a shady area.
Bermudagrass Central Thank you... When I research it I seem to get different responses from different sites. I may end up going with Bermuda simply because Zoysia is obviously way more expensive. At the same time I really want a grass that stays green longer -I’m kind of torn. Thanks for the info and informative video. I’ll be watching more!
Love the vid man
Skippr - Thanks Skip
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral omg bro u reply omg I just love getting dirty like football players but I love Burundi grass
Zeon is the best....period
This zoysa is better! But, in negeral, theres o lot of fungus problems! Otherwise, it grows by stolons as well! Just like bermudas! In my hause, I still prefer the bermudas, because its easy to manteing!
Regards from 🇧🇷
I have tough red clay and my yard has a lot of rock. Do I go with tall fescue or El Toro Zoysia. I do have a small area about 400 sq ft of Bermuda already but I dont like how it turns brown so I wanna do away with that
*Me &U* zoysia would take on that clay, fescue will struggle.
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral thank u brother!!!!!
But seeing as it doesn't spread fast you could use it as a "transition" grass near your trees...
I worked on a golf course and our superintendent always told us “the first year Zoysia sleeps, the second year it creeps, the third year it leaps!”
can't argue with that, had the same experience plugging my yard a few years back
Good to hear. I planted last season and didn’t move one inch
I planted last year about 45 days before the first frost (LONG STORY OF NIGHTMARES), but it's the end of May and I have seen my fair share of stolons spreading and what Zoysia survived the winter is already pretty dense and looking good. I have bare spots that I'm about to reseed now that the temps are fairly steady in the upper 70's and lower to mid 80's consistently, and figure for the most part I'll have a full Zoysia lawn by the time it goes dormant which around the Richmond, VA area is typically the last week of October. I'm sure the stolons and rhizomes will spread a lot more over the next few years, but it's an amazing turf.
Please give updates when it starts to go dormant
How’s it look now BYD?
Where are you at in Georgia, and what is your contact info for service?
kool hand I’m booked out at the moment.
I live in Oklahoma and have been trying to get a lawn forever. My problem is it's mostly shade. As one would expect the bermuda grew OK in the sun and fescue in the shade but clumppy. I'm on the side of a hill and I had a place that was washing out so I went to Home Depot to get a small amount of bermuda sod. After I was almost loaded with a hundred square feet of sod I was informed it was Zoysia. I decided to just buy it because like all my other grass it will last about a year before the shade takes it. That was 5 years ago and you cannot believe 1) How good it looks 2) How much it's spred and mostly 3) The Zoysia has even spread under my trees and it is very thick. Since then I have cut plugs and transplanted it everywhere in my yard. Here is where you will call BS on me, I have thick Zoysia in places that only get a little over an hour of sunlight per day. I have no idea what veriety I bought and I am not a skilled professional just telling my side of the Zoysia vs Bermuda side of the story. In addition, it is so thick weeds hardly ever show up. I'm looking foreward to it taking over my entire yard.
Mark White 👍🏾👍🏾
HOA SUX🤬
I am Grateful I don’t live in an HOA,but I did lay down well over 5000lbs of Bermuda sod this yr,🤓👍Just glad it’s all done,I also broadcasted some Rebel tall fescue to fill in some bare spots that I take care of for the County
I put 7 pallets of palisades zoysia in my front yard. Atl
Is Zoysia as heat tolerant as Bermuda? I also live in Atlanta.
I’ve found it to be but it does not recover as fast as bermuda during a drought.
does this video show Zoysia is more shade tolerant, or more cold tolerant? A video in July vs. November would answer that question.
Shade tolerant 👍🏾
So is your and Bermuda are the same as far as the way they spread and San Augustine and centipede are the same with only stolons
Meant to say Zoysia and Bermuda
Can you tell me who sell the #9 zoysia developed by auburn university it will grow in no sun
No idea 🤷🏾♂️
Why not just lay some zoysia in the shaded area where the existing turf is thin from the shade??
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1st! Let’s Gooo! I finally know what BYD stands for! Lol
Turf Therapy 🐶
Lol. What does it stand for?
@@cohco9320 Big Yard Dog!
Love my Zeon. The stuff is like a tank. They had to do some construction in my backyard including parking a crane truck on my yard in the middle of winter. Tromped on it all to hell. I was so scared they killed it. Nope come spring the stuff greened up like nothing.
That Zeon is pretty awesome
How’s Zeon with dogs and light foot traffic? Also have 20% of my yard with shade throughout the day bc of a neighbor’s tree 🤦♂️
Zeon is good and seems hold up with traffic. But with most zoysia it shifts when you walk on it with shoes 👞, feel good on the barefoot 🦶 but it’s more for looks than function . Seems to take longer to recover from dog 🐕 urine also.
Bermudagrass Central do you feel the St Augustine would hold up better especially having that part of my lawn with shade all day?
Zeon is very tolerant to traffic. Big dogs I’m not sure on. I have 2 small/medium dogs and they don’t seem to be killing mine in any large areas.
If price isn’t an issue what’s the best grass out there located in Ga
Zoysia
BYD, Why is all my sprayers clogging with endurance (premium) grass paint. I’m using the right amount mixing even using hot water.
What type of sprayers are you using?
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral I’ve tried the Scotts 190567 Lithium-Ion Battery Powered Pump Zero Technology Sprayer, 2-Gallon, the CHAPIN 20000 Garden Sprayer 1 Gallon Lawn, even tried the Ortho Dial N Spray Hose-End Sprayer. I wanted to ask advice before I try the Roundup 1 gal sprayer. Thanks!
I’m not sure why. I used my Scott’s hand held and my Ryobi battery 🔋 4 gallon with no problem. I do clean them asap when finished. I run hot water and Clorox through them after I was them out. I leave my Spray tips in hot water to with the Clorox also. Then I keep spraying until they run clear 🤷🏾♂️. I leave lid off to air dry.
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral Thanks!
I would never buy in a neighborhood with an HOA.
Probably had multiple violations 😱
2 years!?!?? It's going to take 50+ years for the rhizomes to green up your entire yard!!
Start plugging the area by your wood line with Zoysia you have and watch it spread.
OD Norwood I’ll be real with you. I LIKE THAT IDEA 💡 😀
Like that Zoysia. Looks really good
Sonic Shima I was out side just looking at that spot again, it performs well👍🏾
Which one better, zeon zoysia or zoysia japonica?
Andrew Goodfish I can only answer for the Zeon. The zeon test strip in my back yard greens early and goes dormant later than my Tifway 419 BermudaGrass. It tolerates the shade like a Pro 👍🏾, it really doesn’t need much fertilizer either 👍🏾
Is the difference noticable?
Yes
You did a shade test comparing grasses but one went dormant because of a frost (even the sunny part was brown) You showed us too late, bermuda had already checked out, shade or no shade, I learned zero on this one
From 6:57 Funny As Heck "ZOYSIA CENTRAL" 😀😀😀
Zoysia has both stolons and rizomes its warm season grass just like bermuda.
Yes, you are correct 👍🏾
Come help me put down my zoysia.
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Zoysia grass has stolons and rhizomes
jesse birdwell you are correct 👍🏾
@@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral
I was about to type this in until I saw this. Am really considering zoysia grass and I live up in Indianapolis area. As I see it I rather have a green lawn in the summer rather brown yard. Then in the winter brown yard because everything is going brown anyways
@@subninja8069 tell me exactly what you were about to type in for search 👍🏾
Hoa sucks lol 😂 that's why I don't have one
I know that's right did not want no HOA 😂
ZOYSIA over Burmuda all day every day
Lol 😆 🤟🏾
this is not atest, its you talkin