Alevilik'te Yaratılış (Creation in Alevism)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Erdoğan Çınar (Research/Writer), Mehmet Turan Dede (Alevi Ceremony Leader) & Abbas Tan (Research/Writer) talk about creation in Alevism. You can learn more about this from our documentary film on our channel.
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Erdoğan Çınar (Araştırmacı/Yazar), Mehmet Turan Dede (Alevi Dede'si) & Abbas Tan (Araştırmacı/Yazar) Alevilikteki yaradılışı konuşuyor. Bu konuyla ilgili daha fazla bilgiyi kanalımızdaki belgesel filmimizden öğrenebilirsiniz.
Thank you for this presentation, and you are my kind of Alevis. I wish you well-being and success.
Bizim turklerle alakamız yoktur yani orta asyadan gelip Horosan erenlerin dergahina girmedik biz hep burdaydik
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Vay be, finally someone explaining the truth! Thank you so much and please keep spreading more truth and information so that the people can learn. Waaay too many people spreading lies about Alevism and their belief. Yüregine saglik, hocam. Bless you.
Size katılıyorum Erdoğan bey benimde bir sürü tespitlerin var bunlarda biri gilgamis destanı mesela gilgamis adı
Zazaca biliyosaniz isimler konusunda baya bilgiler veriyo
emeğinize sağlık.. özellikle alevilikte yaratışı anlamak aleviliğin temel felsefe ve yorumunu anlamaktır.
Yol tvde Kemal Soyer dağ tepe ova şehir koy kasaba adları hep zazacadir
Saçmalamış bin bang Alevilik de mi var. Alevilik de yaratılış peygamber ve oniki imam ne demişse o şekildedir. Ne demek ibrahimi dinler. Biz de ibrahimiyiz. Ne diyor harabi baba Yerleri gökleri yaptık yedi kat,altı günde oldu kainat
Saçmalayan sen olmayasın! Alevilik Yolu'nun felsefesinde kainat nur'dan, yani ışıktan doğmuştur. Peygamber ve oniki imam kültünün Alevilik Yolu içinde batıni bir mana ile ele alındığını bile bilmiyorsun!
this video is full of nonsense full of wrong info about alevism
Okay then tell me what is Alevism in your opinion?
Erdoğan Çınar is a heretical pseudo-Alevi. Only stupid people fall for his pseudo-historical claims. You can see he tries way too hard at sounding scientific which completely misses the esoteric points of the sages of the past. Also he conveniently doesn't mention that the doctrine of the Unity of Being comes from Ibn Arabi.
Okay from this I get the impression that Alevism has no understanding of "creation" at all. Obviously by simply observing the fact that Yunus Emre was not an Alevi poet, is enough. He, much like other Turkmen of the time, held orthodox beliefs about creation. No belief system in ancient Anatolia, Central Asia or Far East ever had a concept of a "Big Bang" that simply birthed the material world.
There is one link to "oneness" of creation that is often cited in religious literature, and that is connected to Gnostiticsm, which held the belief that everything rose from a "single source" aka the Monad, but they reviled the material world (which is the product of the Big Bang) so I do not think that they would have had positive beliefs about it.
I dare any Alevi to produce scriptural evidence in their corpus of literature that hints to anything resembling the "Big Bang" as cited in scientific literature.