The only problem we've seen between the IH knotters and the "competitive" knotters (JD and NH both used about the same style knotter and still do even to this day) is that the stationary knife requires that the blade itself be extremely sharp so that it actually cuts the twine. The moving knife arm on other knotters works well even if the knife has gotten a little dull (not too dull obviously, but it can definitely get more dull than the IH one).
Certainly agree on the knives. I keep a whet stone on the 47 baler due to that reason. If the knots start coming out funky, that's the first thing that gets checked after the twine. The knives on the 268 I had were a bit loose & not the sharpest & they would keep right on going.
@@ikonseesmrno7300 Yeah, the 336 and 348 John Deeres I've had experience with are much better. My grandpa had way more experience with the IH baler (which his brother owns) than I ever did, and he said that 336 Deere (which he owned) would run circles around it. Never been around a New Holland baler, but from watching knotter operation videos, they seem to be about the same as the John Deeres.
Halfway through production of the 430/440 series in the 70s, IH redesigned the knotter as the "All Twine" , with a moving twine knife that turned on the twine disk axis, and moved by a cam. One of the improvements suggested by IH's distributor in France of the UK built machines.
Good day from Ontario. It sounds good but here JD & NH are the sellers, don't see any other brands Yrs ago Massey was but that is gone here too. Thanks
The only problem we've seen between the IH knotters and the "competitive" knotters (JD and NH both used about the same style knotter and still do even to this day) is that the stationary knife requires that the blade itself be extremely sharp so that it actually cuts the twine. The moving knife arm on other knotters works well even if the knife has gotten a little dull (not too dull obviously, but it can definitely get more dull than the IH one).
Certainly agree on the knives. I keep a whet stone on the 47 baler due to that reason. If the knots start coming out funky, that's the first thing that gets checked after the twine. The knives on the 268 I had were a bit loose & not the sharpest & they would keep right on going.
@@ikonseesmrno7300 Yeah, the 336 and 348 John Deeres I've had experience with are much better. My grandpa had way more experience with the IH baler (which his brother owns) than I ever did, and he said that 336 Deere (which he owned) would run circles around it. Never been around a New Holland baler, but from watching knotter operation videos, they seem to be about the same as the John Deeres.
Halfway through production of the 430/440 series in the 70s, IH redesigned the knotter as the "All Twine" , with a moving twine knife that turned on the twine disk axis, and moved by a cam. One of the improvements suggested by IH's distributor in France of the UK built machines.
Those All Twine knotters were a great upgrade!
In our area, I can't think of a farmer who owned an IH baler. Most of them either had a NH or JD. There was at the time an IH dealer in our town.
Good day from Ontario. It sounds good but here JD & NH are the sellers, don't see any other brands
Yrs ago Massey was but that is gone here too. Thanks
Ikon I can barely tie my shoes LOL it is amazing how well these worked
You could always have some attached to your shins, I suppose. 🤔
I've read in the comments that the IH baler was one of the best ways to put up loose hay. Whom ever wrote it was right made me laugh.
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Hey gerl!! 👏💕
Wasn't the bloke that invented them clever