Discrimination and Stigma Against Patients with Depression and Bipolar Disorder

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  • @josephgauci2740
    @josephgauci2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dear Mrs Redfield you are a hero and a pinnacle of courage against an invisible enemy that inflicts many of us at some point in life, and believe me you are indeed more of a Christian than any who those who might have judged you. In fact you, your suffering and how you endured and faced it are the perfect reflection of the soul of Christianity.... much care and best wishes ....

  • @srfein1
    @srfein1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "There's another group which contributes, albeit unwittingly, to the stigma, and that's a group I like to think of as the silently successful. These are people who get well, because they've had good clinical care... but who are afraid to speak out about their mental illnesses for fear of personal or professional reprisals. This is completely understandable, but it is unfortunate, for it perpetuates the misperception that people with mental illness do not get well."

    • @Luke-mu5mq
      @Luke-mu5mq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a great quote

  • @BloomingFireHeart
    @BloomingFireHeart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish my parents understood that there is no will power when you are in a severe depression episode. When that shit knocks me on the ground, I’m down and I don’t know if I can get up anymore.

    • @gabo3color
      @gabo3color 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      are you getting treated?

  • @phoenixpariah1963
    @phoenixpariah1963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have avoided getting help for years because I knew once I had it on any kind of record, I would get substandard treatment with doctors. I was recently pressured into it by my fiance, low and behold.. most of my complaints at the doctor have been chalked up to being in my head. Top that off with being profiled as a druggie has completely prevented me from getting help for anything.

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      phoenix pariah same here

    • @ThePurplesparks
      @ThePurplesparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAME! In Texas! It’s so sad when we try to get help and get that look! 🙈

    • @gcwren502
      @gcwren502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just put up a video about discrimination I'm bi polar and it's always in my head I'm going to try and file a lawsuit

  • @noneofyourbusiness8278
    @noneofyourbusiness8278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a disabled female veteran diagnosed at age 34 in 1996. Army 2000-2003 foot surgeries foot damage med boarded. 2008 SSDI in California then moved back east. I have endured all you have said and I still experience this today. As a disabled female veteran, please help defend us and we are not "crazy" or "paranoid". I battle with bipolar 1, anxiety, and depression, also chronic foot pain. As a person, a patient, and a human being I pull my pants up the same way everyone else does. Stigmas, discriminations, misperceptions, and if you speak up or disagree people of different back grounds they will triangulate or project to control or abuse and use the disease against you...It needs to stop.

  • @davidgee1048
    @davidgee1048 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, so many ideas - right on the button. I only wish people with depression would understand that some of us are perfectly happy to spend time with them, including during periods of challenging emotional states.

  • @ThePurplesparks
    @ThePurplesparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I applaud you for coming out with your mental illness! You are a light at the end of the tunnel!! 👏🏻👏🏻 keep up the good work!!

  • @jannawalters232
    @jannawalters232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad when family members discriminate against their family members with mental illness, even reject them.

  • @brianmccarthy5657
    @brianmccarthy5657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know about the stigma. I have a good friend with whom I was on a social night out and he introduced me to a friend of his. My good friend knows I have mental illness and he is cool. The three of went to a bar and had a drink together. My good friend went on to meet others and I was left with his friend. We sat down and talked a bit and I mentioned to this other friend that I suffered from slight schizophrenia. He quickly excused himself to go to the rest room. He was gone a long while and I got up and looked around the bar. He had left. He ran away!

    • @eileenryan4788
      @eileenryan4788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian I'm sorry for your illness and I hope you get better soon keep taking your meds bro even if you start feeling better you have to keep taking the meds I have depression and bipolar humbly made by Polo socks bipolar sucks part of me but I have to use the microphone because my fingers are too pudgy to use the keyboard so my words get discombobulated it's this stupid dumb Dopey phone it's not me but anyway as I was saying bye polar sucks because I don't know if I'm going to wake up tomorrow feeling good or bad yesterday and today was rough for me stayed in bed all day because February is a very bad month for me lost my mom on Valentine's Day 20 years ago and 5 years ago come February 23rd my father shot himself and committed suicide plus I lost I need other people in the month of February in a span of 20 years so you can understand why February stinks for me I hate fat month and I hate I said I hate that month and I hate bipolar yuck

    • @being.777
      @being.777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry. That is ignorance and it is awful.

    • @lizhyink5636
      @lizhyink5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@being.777 Agreed. Stories like this are reminders to educate the public and advocate for people more. We do not know exactly what the person who disappeared in the bar was thinking at that time, but the affect is understandably painful anyway.

  • @jchangjchang
    @jchangjchang 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you Dr. Jamison for spreading the word to the world. we need more of you in our world!! :)

  • @mayoadam
    @mayoadam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are far too many people specializing in telling us there is a stigma to mental illnesses and far too few telling us about people who do that. About the harm they do. You do not acquiesce to them, you educate them

    • @eileenryan4788
      @eileenryan4788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adam that's exactly what I do I've been on National radio talkin too long radio host about this and I'm not ashamed and you're so right you have to educate them thank you have a good day sir

  • @srfein1
    @srfein1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "As a result, what remains in the public eye is the great mass of untreated people, or inadequately treated mental illness..."

  • @musiclyf3
    @musiclyf3 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing this with the public.

  • @melodysokolow786
    @melodysokolow786 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    its not a cold. You can feel "better" but it doesn't disappear. Brain changes are there and they're pretty deeply imbedded within one. Great if people feel better. Goal of therapy and meds

  • @deannadalton
    @deannadalton 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I admire and have been inspired by this doctor for many years. Her books are well written and contain excellent insight. We can all work to speak and share more to raise awareness and to lessen mental illness stigma.

  • @srfein1
    @srfein1 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What is not seen is all the people....who have been successfully treated, who show up for work, compete, who succeed, and who live good lives"

  • @BloomingFireHeart
    @BloomingFireHeart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t know what to do..I see a therapist and a psychiatrist and take medication, but I still suffer from my depression to the point where I can’t work or function. I’m lost. Sometimes I feel like I’m more useful dead.

    • @haidengeary8277
      @haidengeary8277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many of us have been through it, and still go through it. As for myself, I suffered, silently, for several years. I wish I had good news for you as far as others go, but I do not. However, I promise, if you hang on, you will change immensely. Firstly, strength. You are going to develop a thick skin, but do not allow it to make you hateful. If anything, allow it to help build compassion.
      I say this as someone who went through 7 different medications. As someone who, each morning, had to convince myself not to end my life. Life is absolutely painful, but it is worth it. Find *any* bit of hope you can find, doesnt matter how small it is, hold onto it. You are strong because you hang on.

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me I need to move somewhere that’s more secluded, cause where I am now it has been very detrimental to my health. The pain and suffering only amplified while dealing with toxic and narcissistic people within my family and even by professionals. I reach out constantly bringing up my emergency request, but I’m ignored or undermined. Yet when I have my outbursts or panic attacks, they waste no time punishing and silencing me. My SSI isn’t enough and I don’t have the ability to work right now. But because I don’t “look” sick, or have cancer, people think there’s nothing wrong with me.

    • @gcwren502
      @gcwren502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please don't be like that I bet your alot more tougher then you think.

  • @erinsahlberg73
    @erinsahlberg73 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thanks for this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i experienced a threapist used my bipolar against me which is bs like u said people know about stigma but what is being done about the people who do it? thanks so much means alot to me you posting this video up

  • @snaggletooth5844
    @snaggletooth5844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont wanna criminalize someone calling m a wacko, bu if they re harassing me online or physically, sending me threats, then that should be dealt with as swift as possible.

  • @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable
    @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The medical community used to lobotomize bi-polar people like me less than 100 years ago. We are still treated as a disease when we’re dehumanized as “crazy” by the oppressive majority. We are also a permanent minority too so we can’t ever grow in numbers to better advocate to ensure our rights as a class of people. The only “privilege” we have in having an “invisible” illness is to hide our very personhood for temporary acceptance by people who ,frankly, have no business deciding our humanity in the first place. Many of us medicate and yet we still don’t get accepted. We only seem to get radical acceptance when around other “disabled” and “crazy” people as just people, with the same inherent right to exist as a people like anyone else. Treatment should serve us as a people, not work to serve the interest’s of the outsiders who will never really understand what its like to be us.

  • @vccreative8637
    @vccreative8637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same here happened to me like the speaker a long time when I was still going to some sort of religious sect in our community like the speaker saying others would think she was an underdeveloped christian. It seems funny when she said that, but it seriously happening to some like me. it happened to me too before and some individuals would do that in a church. and absolutely don't have the zero awareness yet of the clinical side of things and how a bipolar is.

  • @SkatingErinsMom
    @SkatingErinsMom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation and still valid in 2018. Some comments from personal experiences over the last several years in my small rural community (these comments are honest and not exacerbated):
    1) Current psychiatrist we (mom and daughter) are seeing disclosed that he had taken Prozac. His honesty was reassuring and he stated it in an appropriate way.
    It's hard to find/get treatment in our rural area, where there is a shortage of qualified psychiatrists. This doctor is physically located outside of the United States. However, he is an experienced, competent, and licensed doctor.
    2) Doctors can print the word psychiatrist on their business card when they may have no psychiatric training. This happened to us with a previous doctor and the clinic did not approve and did not respond appropriately that I had looked up the doctor's license and asked (politely) about his experience in psychiatry. He was a D.O. and had no formal training/certification in psychiatry, and I don't think, many years of practical experience. There should not be a problem in disclosing and/or discussing this sort of thing. The clinic also behaved inappropriately about signing the necessary non-disclosure agreements with me. At the same clinic, a psychiatric nurse, who was doing an initial evaluation on me, said, to my face, that I was no better than a street junkie because I took Dexedrine for my ADHD.
    3) Saw another psychiatrist, only once, that was so obsessed with her own homosexuality that she (projected) grilled my teenage daughter at length about her sexuality/virginity, which was so far removed from the problems we presented that it was just bizarre.
    4) Another psychiatrist I saw was in training and was not supposed to see patients alone, which is what he did with me. He asked me for 30 minutes over and over, if I did or did not make several suicide attempts, and whether or not I actually had children. I finally called for a time-out and figured out that they pulled the wrong chart. He said, no problem, we can wrap this up in the remaining 10 minutes (because he said he had a lunch date). No apology. Also, someone in the office violated my HIPPA rights by disclosing this to others in the community, which got back to me.
    5) Despite these problems I am still pro-psychiatrist and pro-medication. (Not me, but people that used to eat cigarette butts from ashtrays, started medications and went on to live normal functioning lives.) But having said that, patients seeing a new psychiatrist should be given a paper that spells out patient rights. I am speaking about yet-another local psychiatrist that we saw. Clients should be aware that clinical notes exist (which I did not know) and that they can legally ask for copies of them, and the website to go to for issues such that cannot be resolved, such as serious billing problems, or physical or emotional abuse by the doctor. This is especially important because these patients are more emotionally vulnerable than, for example, persons in basic or routine sorts of visits with a primary care doctor.
    Several years after seeing this doctor, I saw the clinical notes (covering five years of treatment) and it's probably too late to do anything, but our therapist (LCSW) and I looked at these notes and what we saw was surprising. The notes did not reflect the actual meetings and were disturbing as to the various DSM diagnosis were present/absent, as how and which and why various meds were prescribed/changed over time, what he told us to do/not do vs. what the notes stated, and his very negative attitude towards women. I guess that's why the meds never helped and why medication side effects were not acknowledged or addressed, and why she just got worse. Others in the community also had problems with the same doctor. The reason I think people do not know their rights is because the only place I have seen people try to address these sorts of issues were on sites like Yelp.
    Because of these various problems, we mentally checked out of medical treatment for a few years and only continued with the therapist. We just started seeing the current doctor and are hoping for the best.

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ever notice how many doctors do not typically want to describe in more detail

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    we need to look historically at some cultural practices with regards to symptoms of bp and ideology of the symptoms

  • @anthonyquevedo474
    @anthonyquevedo474 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My doctor left me paralysed intentionally and used my mental problems to discredit my experience and cover it by saying I was like this previously.

  • @BloodAndGutsTV
    @BloodAndGutsTV 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All I heard was all talk but no solutions which is why we haven't got anywhere. She just stated the obvious, there is still stigma about mental illness. Really? Tell us something we don't know.

    • @marcconnolly4824
      @marcconnolly4824 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Playbackjunkie I think you are missing the point. First, she evaluated efforts towards de-stigmatization, and their mixed results. (They did something, there was some improvement, and they learned from the effort.) Second, she contextualized the discussion in the clinical world. Finally she DID offer solutions (thought I don't think that was the specific purpose of the lecture), both for students and young people, as in the Baltimore program. If young people, teachers, and parents are more aware of symptomology to look for, which can result in earlier and broader diagnosis, then more people can get treated. As she stated then earlier in the discussion, when treated, incidents of violence, for example, align with that of the population. So if you take a minute and synthesize everything she said: earlier and more wide-ranging diagnosis can lead to greater proportion of treatment which can lead to reduced deviant social behavior, which ultimately takes the ammunition away from those who would stigmatize. Since you didn't understand this, I think she did tell you something you didn't know.

    • @MarkMc70
      @MarkMc70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What video were you watching? She said "Wake up." Stigma is a stigmatizing word in and of itself. She said "discrimination" is a better word for it. Those with an illness who are successful should think about going public after counting the cost. That can be very helpful. She also mentioned how common the use of discriminating words like "wacko" and "crazy" are, even in the world of journalism. The message is speak up about this group of people and the discrimination they face. Change the toxic attitudes and the silence about it, because this is a basic civil rights issue.

    • @haidengeary8277
      @haidengeary8277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mental health is subjective, we all experience it differently. Trying to explain something like depression is like explaining love. While you can find words to describe it (love), words are lost when it comes to truly understanding it.
      We are in our infancy when it comes to anything to do with the brain, we really are. We will get better as a species, it takes time.

  • @alastairwest5200
    @alastairwest5200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME - feel the fear and do it anyway...

    • @ThePurplesparks
      @ThePurplesparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alastair West Easier said than done...

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    practicing is the keyword

  • @macrent2
    @macrent2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is a medical condition, but because it is extremely reliant on behavior people believe it is controllable.

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do something take action dont just stand there do something

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets also think about abuse within communities ending the cycle of abuse getting people help they need self help

  • @Fast-e-Learning
    @Fast-e-Learning 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    will Kay Redfield Jamison reveal the status of her kidneys and other possibly affected organs? I ask because she is the spokeswoman for lithium, and i don't have her money to pay for the medical complications if i do what she does

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not everyone is cut out to provide therapy to everyone they settle for a desk job

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have an illness that might interfere with the practicing

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    alot of kids are being neglected because there needs to be awareness before middle school around 3rd grade or 1st grade or 2nd grade is more like it

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets also think of the favoritism in grading abuse in schools teachers not believing in students

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    many people go into teaching because it will help them with their dating life

  • @stagola118705
    @stagola118705 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truth

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    who said that you weren't qualified to treat those with the bp

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to reach out to NMIH

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean lets be honest we need alot of healing instead of blaming we need to offer support and processing

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    homeless shelters also want the homeless to eat starch so avoid public defecation since people need to eliminate waste pooping in public before the public bathrooms are open

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    we all dream that is rather much an hallucination

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    symptoms sleeping around impulsivity excessive spending

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    there will be alot of pushback from certain groups unwilling to accept the diagnosis

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is not talked about is the inappropriate matching of certain therapy providers who may just sit there my dad said I would be better off talking to a wall let's also not forget the sociopaths in law and medicine and psychopaths in law and medicine

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    neurological starts early early bedtime not being in a stroller at the mall or some store after 9 pm take them home dont yell at them for standing up for themselves

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    certain housing is problematic when there are creepy dudes in the apartment complex

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we have a bigger problem on our hands with sleeping around without any basis for a relationship which is communication

  • @gcwren502
    @gcwren502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's why after tonight I've had enough hospitals always talk about my bi polar and quick to let me go with help...So Now Hear This DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT I gonna do it once I was branded bi polar they treat me like shit...I'm calling lawyers tm

    • @JohnsHopkinsMedicine
      @JohnsHopkinsMedicine  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, We appreciate the opportunity to resolve concerns and learn about ways we can improve our services and communication. Please contact our Patient Relations Department by filling out this form: jhmsecure.johnshopkins.edu/the_johns_hopkins_hospital/services_amenities/form.html, or, if you would like to speak with them, please call 410-955-2273, Monday - Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m.

    • @gcwren502
      @gcwren502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnsHopkinsMedicine I will call this number to see if somebody can help me because where I live Ive tried everything Thank you.

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the homeless are the most honorable people

  • @keithbramstedt4511
    @keithbramstedt4511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can think of a good reason why stigma against depression has not lessened: If depression really is a medical disorder then the sufferer is screwed for life, right? I mean, his brain chemistry will be messed up for life. At least if depression were a "character disorder" problem he could change himself but if it's a medical disorder then the only way he can "fix" himself is to be on medication for the rest of his life. And, by the way, isn't that a great deal for the pharmaceutical companies, to have a customer for life!

    • @haidengeary8277
      @haidengeary8277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily.
      Brain chemistry constantly changes,and it can be changed for the good. Exactly how? Thats what we do not fully understand. As I just told someone, when it comes to the brain, we are , quite literally, in our infancy.

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    truth is more doctors would qualify as bp according to neurolinguistic eval

  • @kevangallant9218
    @kevangallant9218 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ramonaurueta9485
    @ramonaurueta9485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeap will discrimination so thats why they dont get help. ITS NOT A STIGMA.

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    many teachers are not perfect they are not the original descendants from the MAYFLOWER

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not so aspergers it is instead

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    public school should not be free

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    others enjoy making fun of the homeless however the homeless are helping more people the homeless shelters are the only same gender housing facilities available aside from the YMCA housing which has problems with hirelings

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    grade grubbing goes on kids are eating the most horrible Monsanto foods their parents may get food stamps butt go to Walmart and buy a shopping cart of hick food

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    teachers typically confuse people

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    psychia try

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    teaching credentials are too easy to get

  • @antbee520
    @antbee520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    teachers are not perfect