Man with the billion new characters they introduced I really wish we would get 1 or 2 avengers movies before the big Doomsday/Secret Wars event. Because of that the writers are going to have a very difficult time giving time and reasons for each character
@ yes. We definitely need a Shang Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3, give us a midnight sons movie before it, maybe Thor 5 depending on what they do. Maybe a Fantastic four 2 before it
TBH, I already expected it. Strange is probably absent in Doomsday due to his venture in Dark Dimension, and my guess is when he returned, the universe already turned into the Battleworld. Him being the key character in Secrat Wars is really no brainer since he's probably one of a few who knows how to fix it.
Makes sense. If he doesn’t fit for the story for Doomsday, and comes in later for Secret Wars totally okay with that. Would love him in Doomsday. But also care more about the story fitting and if his character doesn’t fit, totally fine with him being out.
For Doomsday, I’m wanting a film that focuses on Doom’s background, motivations, and what he needs to accomplish his goals (hopefully along with the recruitment of whomever his lieutenants may be). He’d be the main antagonist only due to having a different outlook on things than the heroes. Then in Secret Wars, he takes a backseat for the start of the film where the Beyonder unveils himself/themselves as the villain. From here, Doom will carry out his plans similar to the comic, and eventually takes the power to create Battleworld and that be the cliffhanger similar to Infinity War. I think this would be a perfect way to move into an interlude type phase (or just extension of phase 6) that allows them to get more films and series out to tell this story the way it needs to be told.
You know what's weird? We assumed Doomsday would interpret parts of Time Runs Out from the 2015 Secret Wars run, such as Strange traversing the Multiverse and meeting Robum Alal and discovering he's Doctor Doom - instead, we are rumored to be getting evil variants of Infinity Saga heroes battling against the protagonists, which is oddly similar to what we got in the comics from the run called Infinity War that preceded the Infinity Gauntlet arc when the actual movie called Infinity War was nothing like the comic arc that it borrowed the name from.
Shang Chi, Daredevil and Iron Fist all fit into the Avengers: Doomsday and specifically Secret Wars: Battle World, K'un Lun was one of the domains located on God Emperor Doom's Battleworld and its baron was Emperor Shang-Chi, just putting that out there, and hopefully they tie this into the storyline along with the thirteen chambers tournament
Interesting. I am a little surprised he is not in doomsday, but I feel it will make more sense story wise and have more impact down the road. He is a major character, and I am confident they will do him justice.
Doctor Strange 3 would make sense to come out between Doomsday and Secret Wars the same way Antman 2 was. End credits could be of him leaving the Dark Dimension and ending up on Battleworld or something.
He may not be in Doomsday yet, but since it hasn't been filmed yet, he still very well could be included in it at somepoint. Be it closer to the end or even a post credit scene to set up Secret Wars. Doomsday has alot of work to do now that Doom is the big bad so it makes sense that Dr Strange isn't in it. But I do think that Dr Strange 3 should come out before Secret Wars and not after
Dr. Strange isn't finished and I'd not be surprised to see the Scarlett Witch pop out that mountain. Marvel really needs to bring JM back and make this right.
i agree because i was just simply interested in seeing where the end of quantumania lead to, but for the simpler fact that ive always wanted a more comic accurate MCU from the beginning, it kinda irks me tht Kang was to form battleword when its actually supposed to be doom. n now people are mad tht RDJ is playing doom. im kinda glad for the fact tht it’s accurate to the comics, but now since they shot themselves in the foot they have to make sense of quantumania and what happened to kang.
I love Doctor Strange and can’t wait for his return! I really hope the MCU pick up his story line where he left off and explain where he has been up until Doomsday/ Secret Wars!
Depending on how faithful they are to the comics, I believe Avengers Doomsday is going to adapt Time Runs Out and it will close by showing Dr. Strange and Doom killing the Beyonders (or Kang) and creating battleworld.
I was hoping to see him in Doomsday. Then again, I’d really like to see Scarlett Johansson also. I love the OA6!! All of them! Original Avengers 6 as I call them. 💯😁
Outstandingly ecstatic to see future Marvel content but disappointed to have missed Xmen97 finale however gratified to be able to catch Deadpool & Wolverine.
I like it. Makes me feel like the 2 movies will feel like different stories. Lots to do in both to get everyone pointed in the right direction. Hopefully it won't feel like they bit off more than they could chew
I always felt that leak ages ago about their being 60 characters in Doomsday was hokum especially as the Russos like to keep the story tight with a few key characters. Theyll probably use Strange like they used Hawkeye and Antman in the last Avengers film maybe teasing him at the end of Doomsday then filling in his story in Secret Wars as to where hes been and what hes been doing during Doomsday
They should do an adaptation of the Nightmare story they had before it became MoM. With Nightmare becoming emboldened as universes are destroyed. Done right it could air before or in the aftermath of Secret Wars (depending on when the film is completed)
Sounds like their way of bringing in ground level characters for continuity across MCU film and TV. Then they'll bring it the upper level characters in the next Avengers and payoff some lingering easter eggs that fans want to see most.
Kinda off topic: You know what I think should happen in Secret Wars? Or in a sequel of Deadpool and Wolverine. He talks about needing to "do" something leaves for a second, and he in a nod to DKMU kills the writers' room and dismantles KEVIN.
True, if in Endgame he went to different universes to find out what his Thanos' plan was, then he could do the exact same thing for Doom. It's too bad though because I did want to see him in Doomsday.
It makes sense for Dr Stange to not be in 5. He's doing his own thing then, and Dr Doom might not be obviously magical when the Avengers first meet him. Strange could be key once they figure this out.
I REALLY hope they don't make the void Battleworld. That's too "predictable ". They gotta do something different that wouldn't be expected, like bring all the world's Strange passed through together in some way.
I am surprised they wouldn't keep him involved in the next Avengers film, but depending on how Strange 3 unfolds it may make sense that he isn't involved in the next Avengers flick
They should have Doctor Strange 3 before doomsday. It will be a missed opportunity unless they're bringing it out between as a prequel to doomsday or secret wars.
Strange will probably be behind the scenes allowing Doom to do what he wants. And in secret wars pops and tell the heros “ this was suppose to happen so i didnt stop him. 1 universe is better than no universe.”
Nope, not even a bit now lol I wanna know what the script is atp. What is going on, this makes me nervous and uncomfortable. I wanna know if the Russos signed off on this and if this is apart of their plan and vision
Before the end. Strange must be one of the lesser multiversal/important characters to push through as much venom and the spider society from the threatening end
In the comics he was with Dr doom when they took out the beyonders so I can see why they would save him for secret wars or at least a doomsday post credit scene
I think Dr. strange will be this Avengers 2 partner's version of Ant Man. Doomsday happens but Strange is off in another universe with Cleo. Comes back in Secret Wars to save the day.
I don’t see how they wouldn’t include Strange, with as much hoodoo dabblin’ Doom does, the Doc would be a shoe in. He would utilize just as much magic as tech to take down the Avengers. This just tells me that the writers don’t know Doom as well as they should.
I love Dr Strange and hope he becomes part of the mcu’s new big three. But unfortunately kinda feel icky bc dr strange is not present in Avengers 5, making me question who will be part of the mcu’s new big three? Besides Spider Man and Thor ofc. It’s like Dr Strange will get the Ant Man treatment, gone for avengers 3 then present avengers 4 and saves them bc of his quantum truck idea
Perhaps she trapped strange as the evil or brainwashed subjects of Doom so when time is rewritten she is in the credits seen at standby with Doom meddling with his mind.
It is a bit disappointing that doctor strange won't be in doomsday because the end credit scenes of multiverse of madness leaves his arch so wide open and it's been years already since we've seen him last however his role in avengers secret wars will probably be his biggest outside his solo movies
Weird because DOOMSDAY could and should easily follow the Time Runs Out storyline that was setup in MVOM and ties in PERFECTLY with Doom and Secret Wars
I think this is an obvious wink towards Doctor strange 3 becoming that movie that comes out before secret wars. I feel like it will be essential to bring Stephen into e fold and have a lot of exposition that will add to the whole context of the story. There is still plenty of time to do this before secret wars IMHO.
Tobey Maguire will return as Spider-Man in the next MCU films starting with Doctor Strange 3 and Avengers Secret Wars and his 4th solo film in 2028 to conclude the story of Spider-Man. In the universe of Sam Raimi
I believe it when I see it. Well, when I DON’T see it-er, well, him. We know Marvel tells the actors what to say and part of that is to maintain mystery and it works. We’ve been successfully lied to before, for me most famously with Andrew Garfield in NWH. I love Doctor Strange, and if they cut him from this, they had better make up for that in great ways
It's understandable considering all the characters they might need to include for Avengers Doomsday. I'm excited to see when Dr. Strange will show up next.
If they are doing something similar to the comic maybe he will be working with Doom in Secret Wars in some capacity as the 'inside guy'. How that would work I am not sure but unlike the comics I won't expect him to get the forever yeet treatment since there will be a third movie after Secret Wars. IDK
Aren’t we already used to know that we only can trust infos about 3-6 months BEFORE THE ACTUAL RELEASE ? I mean yes, clicks and ish, but that the cast for Doomsday and SW will not be how it currently is whispered is obvious.
The budget is probably skyrocketing and they wrote him out to save some money. Cumberbatch is gonna negotiate for a hefty check, and they wont pay it unless its a movie centered around him or its an endgame level film.
Man with the billion new characters they introduced I really wish we would get 1 or 2 avengers movies before the big Doomsday/Secret Wars event. Because of that the writers are going to have a very difficult time giving time and reasons for each character
Even a couple more standalone movies would help
@ yes. We definitely need a Shang Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3, give us a midnight sons movie before it, maybe Thor 5 depending on what they do. Maybe a Fantastic four 2 before it
They panicked
Totally agree, because we need build ups... Like everything before Endgame that was peak Marvel with Thanos etc.
@@Obito_v5yeeeees so good
I’m very surprised at this news, I would have never thought he wouldn’t be a part of Doomsday!
This sounds very reminiscent of ant man NOT being in infinity war but being a central part of endgame
Or Thor
@jeremiahjohnson306 not sure I understand the thor reference. He was a main focus in infinity war and in quite a bit of endgame
@@erichendler2438yeah he was just gone until the end after the opening sequence… gone from the battle I mean
Strange will be the man with the plan after Doom wins
These are the kind of "spoilers" I like. No plot reveals but still let's us know what to expect. Thanks.
TBH, I already expected it. Strange is probably absent in Doomsday due to his venture in Dark Dimension, and my guess is when he returned, the universe already turned into the Battleworld. Him being the key character in Secrat Wars is really no brainer since he's probably one of a few who knows how to fix it.
What I was thinking, also! They can hopefully squeeze his 3rd movie into that spot between the 2 Avengers movies!
I really enjoyed him as Sherlock.
Doctor Strange 3 is definitely going to serve as a setup for Secret Wars. I also see him appearing in a post credit scene in Avengers Doomsday.
This just means Dr. Strange 3 will be before Secret Wars ... Right?
Fingers crossed....he's one of the more essential characters
My guess it be in between
Makes sense. If he doesn’t fit for the story for Doomsday, and comes in later for Secret Wars totally okay with that. Would love him in Doomsday. But also care more about the story fitting and if his character doesn’t fit, totally fine with him being out.
For Doomsday, I’m wanting a film that focuses on Doom’s background, motivations, and what he needs to accomplish his goals (hopefully along with the recruitment of whomever his lieutenants may be). He’d be the main antagonist only due to having a different outlook on things than the heroes.
Then in Secret Wars, he takes a backseat for the start of the film where the Beyonder unveils himself/themselves as the villain. From here, Doom will carry out his plans similar to the comic, and eventually takes the power to create Battleworld and that be the cliffhanger similar to Infinity War.
I think this would be a perfect way to move into an interlude type phase (or just extension of phase 6) that allows them to get more films and series out to tell this story the way it needs to be told.
I still think that Marvel did Jonathan Majors wrong... just my opinion!
You need to move on
Who cares move on the guy will live.😂😂😂😂
I agree
Nah he was boring
Why are some of you STILL complaining about that?
Get over it!
Nobody cares anymore!
Keep up the great updates!
You know what's weird? We assumed Doomsday would interpret parts of Time Runs Out from the 2015 Secret Wars run, such as Strange traversing the Multiverse and meeting Robum Alal and discovering he's Doctor Doom - instead, we are rumored to be getting evil variants of Infinity Saga heroes battling against the protagonists, which is oddly similar to what we got in the comics from the run called Infinity War that preceded the Infinity Gauntlet arc when the actual movie called Infinity War was nothing like the comic arc that it borrowed the name from.
Shang Chi, Daredevil and Iron Fist all fit into the Avengers: Doomsday and specifically Secret Wars: Battle World, K'un Lun was one of the domains located on God Emperor Doom's Battleworld and its baron was Emperor Shang-Chi, just putting that out there, and hopefully they tie this into the storyline along with the thirteen chambers tournament
good stuff man! keep it up!
Wow! So many characters to juggle. I just want to see good stories with Dr Strange
Thank you Michael appreciate all the updates, these give me hope for the future.
Interesting. I am a little surprised he is not in doomsday, but I feel it will make more sense story wise and have more impact down the road. He is a major character, and I am confident they will do him justice.
Doctor Strange 3 would make sense to come out between Doomsday and Secret Wars the same way Antman 2 was. End credits could be of him leaving the Dark Dimension and ending up on Battleworld or something.
More to look forward for Dr. Strange 3 🙌🏽
Dr Strange was always my fav…. In jr high I tried to make my bedroom looks like the Sanctum Santorum😂
I will always be ready when Dr. Strange comes back by posing my 12 Inch Scale Figures and making a Diorama of what is to come 😂
He may not be in Doomsday yet, but since it hasn't been filmed yet, he still very well could be included in it at somepoint. Be it closer to the end or even a post credit scene to set up Secret Wars. Doomsday has alot of work to do now that Doom is the big bad so it makes sense that Dr Strange isn't in it. But I do think that Dr Strange 3 should come out before Secret Wars and not after
Dr. Strange isn't finished and I'd not be surprised to see the Scarlett Witch pop out that mountain. Marvel really needs to bring JM back and make this right.
i agree because i was just simply interested in seeing where the end of quantumania lead to, but for the simpler fact that ive always wanted a more comic accurate MCU from the beginning, it kinda irks me tht Kang was to form battleword when its actually supposed to be doom. n now people are mad tht RDJ is playing doom. im kinda glad for the fact tht it’s accurate to the comics, but now since they shot themselves in the foot they have to make sense of quantumania and what happened to kang.
I love Doctor Strange and can’t wait for his return! I really hope the MCU pick up his story line where he left off and explain where he has been up until Doomsday/ Secret Wars!
It think we’re going to get another two-part Avengers outing where the first installment ends on a jaw-dropping cliffhanger.
Depending on how faithful they are to the comics, I believe Avengers Doomsday is going to adapt Time Runs Out and it will close by showing Dr. Strange and Doom killing the Beyonders (or Kang) and creating battleworld.
No Doctor Strange in Avengers 5 is just bananas! So hard to believe...
I was hoping to see him in Doomsday. Then again, I’d really like to see Scarlett Johansson also. I love the OA6!! All of them! Original Avengers 6 as I call them. 💯😁
It's been a bit since I have been but catching up, great F4 update this video is great too!
Outstandingly ecstatic to see future Marvel content but disappointed to have missed Xmen97 finale however gratified to be able to catch Deadpool & Wolverine.
Your videos get me excited for the future Michael. Thanks. Everything Always; Always First.
It's a bummer that Dr. Strange won't be in Doomsday, let's hope they make up for it with his screen time in Secret Wars and his third movie.
I like it. Makes me feel like the 2 movies will feel like different stories. Lots to do in both to get everyone pointed in the right direction. Hopefully it won't feel like they bit off more than they could chew
I always felt that leak ages ago about their being 60 characters in Doomsday was hokum especially as the Russos like to keep the story tight with a few key characters. Theyll probably use Strange like they used Hawkeye and Antman in the last Avengers film maybe teasing him at the end of Doomsday then filling in his story in Secret Wars as to where hes been and what hes been doing during Doomsday
That's quite a surprise, wonder what's going to happen to him before that. Interested to see how this develops!
They should do an adaptation of the Nightmare story they had before it became MoM. With Nightmare becoming emboldened as universes are destroyed. Done right it could air before or in the aftermath of Secret Wars (depending on when the film is completed)
I hope at least Wong is there to represent Kamar-Tag. We need at least one Sorcerer to fight Doom.
I’d love if Strange 3 and Thor were all Battleworld based movies after Secter Wars🙏 Would be sick to see Sheriff Strange and The Thor Corps🧜🏻♂️
Thanks for the news
Sounds like their way of bringing in ground level characters for continuity across MCU film and TV. Then they'll bring it the upper level characters in the next Avengers and payoff some lingering easter eggs that fans want to see most.
Kinda off topic: You know what I think should happen in Secret Wars? Or in a sequel of Deadpool and Wolverine. He talks about needing to "do" something leaves for a second, and he in a nod to DKMU kills the writers' room and dismantles KEVIN.
True, if in Endgame he went to different universes to find out what his Thanos' plan was, then he could do the exact same thing for Doom. It's too bad though because I did want to see him in Doomsday.
It makes sense for Dr Stange to not be in 5. He's doing his own thing then, and Dr Doom might not be obviously magical when the Avengers first meet him. Strange could be key once they figure this out.
Dr. Strange will bring everyone together in Avengers 6. They need that glue guy.
I REALLY hope they don't make the void Battleworld. That's too "predictable ". They gotta do something different that wouldn't be expected, like bring all the world's Strange passed through together in some way.
This just keeps getting crazier hopefully everything plays out right and good.
I am surprised they wouldn't keep him involved in the next Avengers film, but depending on how Strange 3 unfolds it may make sense that he isn't involved in the next Avengers flick
Doctor Strange 3 must be set between the two films then for the ending of MoM to make sense
For real, like what are they doing atp. Did they even watch the previous films in the Multiverse saga or were they just forced into this?
They should have Doctor Strange 3 before doomsday. It will be a missed opportunity unless they're bringing it out between as a prequel to doomsday or secret wars.
He’s my favorite character. I hated what they did to him in multiverse of madness. He’s a fantastic actor and should be part of every film.
Doctor Strange Vs DrDoom Need A 10 Minute Battle One On One👀
I’m so looking forward for Secret Wars to come out 🎥🍿🙏
In all honesty, now that I think about it, it does make sense to just have Strange show up in Battleworld considering his role in that story
I guess that makes sense doomsday is the setup for battleworld I could see strange showing up at the end of doomsday and/or the spiderman movie
Things seem to be shaping up similarly to the comics. Possible Time Runs Out for #3??
I’m waiting for all thisss hurry up ❤
Strange will probably be behind the scenes allowing Doom to do what he wants. And in secret wars pops and tell the heros “ this was suppose to happen so i didnt stop him. 1 universe is better than no universe.”
Starting to feel confident
Nope, not even a bit now lol I wanna know what the script is atp. What is going on, this makes me nervous and uncomfortable. I wanna know if the Russos signed off on this and if this is apart of their plan and vision
@TonyStart4yolojust have faith in Russo brothers you have no reason not to either there past marvel films
@@BandSpectrum Duh, why do you think I said the last line
Doctor Strange not being Doomsday is definitely a head scratcher, but hey I am not Feige or Russo's so they must have a plan and a good reason!
love the vids
Good stuff Michael
I'm hoping to see a lot more of Shang Chi and of course Dr. Strange in the upcoming movies
Before the end. Strange must be one of the lesser multiversal/important characters to push through as much venom and the spider society from the threatening end
Its a tricky thing with stranges character because of his vast powers writing him into a story thats balanced is difficult
First 😎....but very disappointed. He's one of the bright spots in the present MCU.
In the comics he was with Dr doom when they took out the beyonders so I can see why they would save him for secret wars or at least a doomsday post credit scene
I think Dr. strange will be this Avengers 2 partner's version of Ant Man. Doomsday happens but Strange is off in another universe with Cleo. Comes back in Secret Wars to save the day.
We had insiders saying this a looooong time ago. Seems like before it was even renamed to Doomsday.
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Good to hear!
I don’t see how they wouldn’t include Strange, with as much hoodoo dabblin’ Doom does, the Doc would be a shoe in. He would utilize just as much magic as tech to take down the Avengers. This just tells me that the writers don’t know Doom as well as they should.
I love Dr Strange and hope he becomes
part of the mcu’s new big three.
But unfortunately kinda feel icky bc dr strange is not present
in Avengers 5, making me question who will be part of the mcu’s new
big three? Besides Spider Man and Thor ofc.
It’s like Dr Strange will get the Ant Man treatment, gone for avengers 3
then present avengers 4 and saves them bc of his quantum truck idea
Dr. Strange is one of the better and most interesting characters in the MCU. He makes more sense than others, plus it’s been too long.
That's a lot of direct info from an actor! Love it!!
Can't wait to see how it turns out..
Perhaps she trapped strange as the evil or brainwashed subjects of Doom so when time is rewritten she is in the credits seen at standby with Doom meddling with his mind.
If true, this is not a bad thing. When he shows up later in the movies the audience will be super excited to see him again.
Makes sense she won’t be in Doomsday but might feel weird not having him in a crossover event like this unless it’s in a post-credit scene
It's so strange to me (no pun intended) that they wouldn't fit Doctor Strange 3 before Secret Wars
Benedict is an excellent actor, and Dr Strange is a brilliant role - of course he’s here as long as they want him
It is a bit disappointing that doctor strange won't be in doomsday because the end credit scenes of multiverse of madness leaves his arch so wide open and it's been years already since we've seen him last however his role in avengers secret wars will probably be his biggest outside his solo movies
Thanks for the news! Will miss Strange though.
We really need Dr. Strange 3 to somehow help all this tie together.
Weird because DOOMSDAY could and should easily follow the Time Runs Out storyline that was setup in MVOM and ties in PERFECTLY with Doom and Secret Wars
Hey guys..we’re gonna keep seeing videos like this till 2027 🤦🏻♂️..
He’s the Sheriff though… I’m betting on a end credit scene
This could be awesome. I like the idea of a more ground level movie and a real build up from there
I think this is an obvious wink towards Doctor strange 3 becoming that movie that comes out before secret wars. I feel like it will be essential to bring Stephen into e fold and have a lot of exposition that will add to the whole context of the story. There is still plenty of time to do this before secret wars IMHO.
Tobey Maguire will return as Spider-Man in the next MCU films starting with Doctor Strange 3 and Avengers Secret Wars and his 4th solo film in 2028 to conclude the story of Spider-Man. In the universe of Sam Raimi
He won’t return in Doctor Strange 3 nor his cancelled 4th film. The only time that he’ll return is the 6th Avengers film.
That’s a bummer that Doctor Strange won’t be joining the cast. But at the same time it doesn’t make sense.
I believe it when I see it. Well, when I DON’T see it-er, well, him. We know Marvel tells the actors what to say and part of that is to maintain mystery and it works. We’ve been successfully lied to before, for me most famously with Andrew Garfield in NWH. I love Doctor Strange, and if they cut him from this, they had better make up for that in great ways
It's understandable considering all the characters they might need to include for Avengers Doomsday. I'm excited to see when Dr. Strange will show up next.
Can't wait for Strange 3!
No, at this point Marvel can’t afford to mess up, so what ever decision they make must be for a reason.
If they are doing something similar to the comic maybe he will be working with Doom in Secret Wars in some capacity as the 'inside guy'. How that would work I am not sure but unlike the comics I won't expect him to get the forever yeet treatment since there will be a third movie after Secret Wars. IDK
Aren’t we already used to know that we only can trust infos about 3-6 months BEFORE THE ACTUAL RELEASE ?
I mean yes, clicks and ish, but that the cast for Doomsday and SW will not be how it currently is whispered is obvious.
The budget is probably skyrocketing and they wrote him out to save some money. Cumberbatch is gonna negotiate for a hefty check, and they wont pay it unless its a movie centered around him or its an endgame level film.
Damn that sucks but I’m glad he’ll be in Secret Wars
They really need to split secret wars into 2 films and release Shang Chi 2 and Doctor Strange 3 between them.