Frictions Possible Peril
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- I had an experience that made me look at friction shifting in a new way. I thought it was interesting enough to share.
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Jeez, I guess I'm a snob, Chris. One of the things I like about friction shifting is that it takes some attention and skill: not a lot, but some (I'm sure it's easier than learning to drive a stick). So I agree about the extra attention for newbies about friction shifting. And every time somebody sees the bar-ends on my road bike, I cuss the younger generation and their too-easy indexed lifestyle.
I've put friction shifting on beginner bikes, and it's not uncommon for people to think their shifting is broken, when all that was needed was a tightened wing nut. Some people may be better served by the set it and forget it style of index shifting
I love friction simple. Running a 1x10
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As others have said friction is not for everyone. I’m the only one in my family who runs friction on rear derailleurs. Sheldon would perhaps remind people that Sturmey Archer hubs had ratchet style clicks on their shifters well before wide spread indexing on derailleur shifters. Simple people like a reassuring click when they flick a switch or a lever and they don’t know what damage they are doing when the switch or lever doesn’t work any more. Experience tells them to stop what they are doing and call a technician.
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Chris, where have you been ? Is everything ok ?
All is well thanks. New vid coming tomorrow!
My experience with friction shifting is 70’s schwinns, needing constant attention to the tension. I understand modern versions are much better quality
I have several bikes from the mid to late 80's and early 90's. Once I set them up, all of the shifters work flawlessly.
How do you set them up?
@@jefftoonstra5087 Friction shifters just require smooth cables and housing to reduce friction in the system, so I would start there.
Either lube up the old cables or get new if you can feel drag. Next, proper cable tension is also important. There are videos that explain how to do this, but you want to make sure it's not too loose or too tight.
You can start with the derailleur in the highest gear, which has the least tension on the cable and just make sure it's not loose and floppy. Make sure any barrel adjusters are screwed in almost fully.
Limit screws are what prevent your derailleur from "over shifting" in either direction. If these are improperly set, you could throw the chain into the spokes or the dropout.
Finally, use the barrel adjusters to tighten or loosen the cable to align the derailleur in the extremes of the throw of the shifter.
If your shifter has an index mode, enable it and make sure the indexing is correct with the barrel adjusters. That's as well as I can describe it through text. Hope this helps.
@@HunterAtheistI will give that a try thanks!
@@jefftoonstra5087 I forgot to mention RJ The Bike Guy has a video on TH-cam replacing a cable on a friction system as well.
Science friction? Seems like in your hypothesis, and index-shifted derailleur with a bent hanger could suffer a similar fate to the one that you described. I've been conflicted with my own affection for tiki culture, the fetishism of "exotic" cultures in general, and colonialism.