POV: you're the sole chill phantom who witnessed a horrendous albeit satisfying massacre, while the killer just stood there drinking up all the estus like what we used to do as sunbros after a nice coop boss fight.
One thing I noticed with the curseblade cirques was that they have around three times base guard boost and higher block defences compared to the other backhand blades, clearly intending for the counter to be used for them. Shame the ash on it is incredibly janky.
I found that the AOW for those is used a bit differently. It's more like a gap-closer rather than a damaging move and the second parts tracking is insane.
the lion helmets are so good... I know a lot of people have justifiable problems with stat-boosting gear and what it does to fashion, but making the choice "be a huge tryhard and wear this giant head that totally clashes with everything OR wear this very cool looking normally sized one that's a bit worse" is honestly perfect game design. The people in this game who abandon their shame are almost always marked by looking ugly as sin, and I think that's beautiful
honestly because I consistently forget that guard counters even exist, but this I gotta try. An actually skillful way to use an often braindead weapon.
When i first picked up this weapon and tried it out, the sick guard counter was one of the first things i noticed, im bummed that i didnt use it more in my first playthrough of the dlc
@@CapDayne_Levi you are welcome! I took a while to test the new weapon classes guard counters, it was fun. my favorite aesthetically is actually the hand-to-hand arts with a shield. the kick guard counter is just *chef's kiss* and can also be buffed with the chicken feet
True swift slash and blindspot shouldn't have ever existed but now that they exist they have to try to fit in with other ashes and they just can't, no nerfs will probably fix blind spot and swift slash will probably always be stupid. Like really an ash that dodges any attack and punishes instantly and an attack that hits you even if you dodge the first bit and then they can keep doing it on top of you. I like backhand blades but I make myself use other things. Flame of the redmanes on smithscript cirque was pretty fun
@@klaw-rp6ji blind spot been in the game since ds3 it just wasn't good back then. The counter to blind spot if ur having trouble with it is just timing a counter attack and have thrusting spear talisman on it requires some hard swapping but that's just an essential PVP skill
Wait does the shield with backhand blades have a different guard counter. That would be a move you would need an oddly specific setup for. Might mess with some of the weapons that powerstance themselves when you try and two hand like that
Oh my god how did they not decide to make that guard counter the actual swift slash? It looks so much cooler, balanced, and would have bene more practical as an ash of war
Because it's a DEX weapon. Usually players are playing with STR or INT builds - if we're talking two extreme poles. PvP-wise it's effective to delete players, PvE for AI enemies nah.
Man, Deflecting Hardtear really feels like someone at From finally figured out how to make Guard Counters valuable in normal gameplay, but only well after the game actually launched and they needed some way to sneak it in now.
Guard Counters on this weapon are kinda slow tbh due to the multiple hits. You kinda need something to help its guard counters be good, like the flask tear.
What is there to talk about backhand blades? SSS tier above every other weapon, straight up beats everything with ease. Blind spot L2 into two attacks and then repeat that till you win with little to counterplay as the bleed will interrupt retaliation and even parries. 2 attacks deal 60% hp and proc the extra 30% bleed instantly.
@@cloudshifter Yeah its clear From wanted these to shine in every way possible! Loved the idea of these pre dlc but when we got them it all went to hell
Prob cause it gaurd stats are terrible meaning if you miss a single deflect there goes all your stamina even if the guard counter itself is really good the bad gaurd stats make it very risky to use
Is the guard counter dodgeable or able to be countered in some way if you are unlucky enough to have someone use it against you? Do you have to like roll towards them and then you won't get hit? Watching this it looks ridiculous. Backhand blade 2 handed moveset is pretty unfair I'm just realizing now. The two handed running r2 is insane the running r1s give the weapon absurd mobility and ashes like blindspot on these make these a death sentence at close range. I love using these weapons but something needs changed on them. Maybe making the poise damage worse for some attacks could be good. I hate how the dlc made all of these cool weapons and so many of them just aren't fair
Correct, it's just a good roll catch but not a true combo. And for your second question, I'm assuming he's using the godslayer seal because of the low faith requirement and high scaling. Bloodflame blade is mostly useful because of the way the bleed stacks, while the fire damage doesn't really scale well with faith regardless of wich seal you use. Hope this helps!
I noticed it before, but doesn't it have low hyper armor? I mean, if you encountered a braindead r1 user, you might get interrupted constantly and have bad trades.
not only the tear, but it seems that the curved sword talisman doesn't work either on backhand blades. not sure if that also includes the cirques or if it's specific to this weapon though (it has the same name of the weapon type...), because when I tested the smithscript cirques in pve, it did increase damage. by the way, the smithscript cirques hit twice on the guard counter and deal crazy damage, you should try them out. the hit isn't super consistent though.
I have never even equipped this weapon type as from what i've seen and the people i've fought it's clearly broken beyond being satisfying to use against anybody. it feels as though the moment I put it in the armament slot, my nails might turn painted and a phallic organ might manifest in my mouth.
With the level of damage the bloodflame blade is completely unnecessary lmao. You are doing nearly 2k damage before they even get close to being bled out
It's most likely because of the awful reputation bhb has in the community. A lot of us shied away from it, and a few have it as a swap for situations that require cheese. Maybe one day I'll take give them a chance. Maybe......
@@ZeriocTheTank Man I was so damn hyped for these when dlc dropped but like you said the way people started using them gave it such a bad reputation! Definitely have to put my pride to the side every time I pick these up but at least this is a more honest way of using them 😅
@@VeilofApocryphonno, normally you do have to hold L1 to block, to then use the guard counter with R2. but in this video he's using the deflecting hardtear, which gives you special blocks (called deflects) that you do by pressing L1 at the right time just as the hit connects.
because the guard counter damage on the win blades are ass with out status proc, good job you have introduced more cancer to ligma gankers. i pray that no pve'ers see this vid
Because the kind of players that Guard Counters are "good" against are also the type of players ANYTHING is good against. But I guess that doesn't sound as good for TH-cam clickbait, huh?~
@@IliumGaming I disagree. Invasions can be lots of fun, and folks find a lot of creative ways to approach them. However, the fun factor goes way down when the team is prepping for a big boss. It can be an additional challenge for the invader because they’re catching the team at a moment where they’re possibly at their strongest. On the other hand, it’s more likely to result in players not using the multiplayer function at all (easier to just fight the boss themselves with a summon), therefore harming the replayability of the game.
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Because everyone just presses L2 with this weapon?
@@plottingsloth9331 This is the answer I was looking for!
This technique was discovered when someone accidentally pressed L1 instead of L2.
POV: you're the sole chill phantom who witnessed a horrendous albeit satisfying massacre, while the killer just stood there drinking up all the estus like what we used to do as sunbros after a nice coop boss fight.
@@seruyeh6123 Praise the Sun ☀️
Do you think that tear is better than the Opaline Hardtear? The poise from it seemed almost like endure.
Chase The Bro's next video will be Backhand Blades with Deflecting Hardtear 🔮
@@colt4505”Yoo what’s up guys CapDaynethebro here”
One thing I noticed with the curseblade cirques was that they have around three times base guard boost and higher block defences compared to the other backhand blades, clearly intending for the counter to be used for them. Shame the ash on it is incredibly janky.
@@The_Grogg I actually didn’t notice before that’s dope since regular bhb have like 16 guard boost…
the unique one? Worth a mention atleast part of its' ash gets boosted by the shattered stone ring, also by the dancer set
I found that the AOW for those is used a bit differently. It's more like a gap-closer rather than a damaging move and the second parts tracking is insane.
it gets even better because every time you perfect block with the cracked tear it gives you a damage buff stacking up to 80% after 4 blocks
WOW this is INSANE! Awesome dude!!
@@xFabz777 Thanks a lot Fabz! These things are even more deadly when you don’t just spam L2
somehow the 2.5 weighted paired weapon has a better guard counter than the black knight greathammer
Maybe poison Bhb and after guard counter poison flower blooms twice for a roll catch? With a my of 400 it should poison them
@@feelthelove2358 Awesome poison synergy! I was thinking of going with exactly that with poison exultation tali and shroom head! 🍄
Truly inspiring. I cried watching this vieo
@@bigsundays9058 We laughed, we cried, we inspire by vieo 😁
now that's spinning slash
@@LUN5HTIME The REAL spinning slash! 🌪️
the lion helmets are so good... I know a lot of people have justifiable problems with stat-boosting gear and what it does to fashion, but making the choice "be a huge tryhard and wear this giant head that totally clashes with everything OR wear this very cool looking normally sized one that's a bit worse" is honestly perfect game design.
The people in this game who abandon their shame are almost always marked by looking ugly as sin, and I think that's beautiful
That's actually insane. I only ever see the l2 of these weapons so i never even knew about its guard counter being what it is. Gj
Master of guard counter bless me in my invansions. Realy creative and fun build.
@@jdciclo Amen 🙏
Blessing these invaders with the guardiest of counters!
Shhhhh your not supposed to tell anyone about the 1 shot mega guard counter. XD
@@Scriffer “Monkeys outta the bottle man!Pandora only comes out of the box he doesn’t go back in” 😂
honestly because I consistently forget that guard counters even exist, but this I gotta try. An actually skillful way to use an often braindead weapon.
@@CosmicAeon The most honest BHB build!Besides the lack of HA guard counters are amazing on certain weapons especially these!
I went thru every new weapon”s guard counter about three weeks ago and thought the same exact thing as your title.
@@nmiloslavich Man it’s definitely my new favorite gc! Even though all reversals lack HA , they’re so satisfying when you can get them to land
im floored, this was so satisfying to watch
7:58 Pole Torch and 12 Vigor...those were definitely choices.
@@FlameForgedSoul definitely one of the choices ever made!
When i first picked up this weapon and tried it out, the sick guard counter was one of the first things i noticed, im bummed that i didnt use it more in my first playthrough of the dlc
@@coenenozzy Hell yeah man its guard counter is definitely overlooked but it can deal massive damage! Both 1 and 2H
beast claws also get 4 hit gc when
2handing and 2 hit when one handing. your character also ducks which can dodge a lot of attacks
@@simonappel2599 Nice I know what weapon I’m trying out next thanks man!
@@CapDayne_Levi you are welcome! I took a while to test the new weapon classes guard counters, it was fun. my favorite aesthetically is actually the hand-to-hand arts with a shield. the kick guard counter is just *chef's kiss* and can also be buffed with the chicken feet
Damnnn. Another great highlight reel.
@@kevina.3373 Thanks as always man! Worked hard on this one 😁
People aren't talking bout it cause most backhand blade users are mouth breathing blind spot spammers
True swift slash and blindspot shouldn't have ever existed but now that they exist they have to try to fit in with other ashes and they just can't, no nerfs will probably fix blind spot and swift slash will probably always be stupid. Like really an ash that dodges any attack and punishes instantly and an attack that hits you even if you dodge the first bit and then they can keep doing it on top of you. I like backhand blades but I make myself use other things. Flame of the redmanes on smithscript cirque was pretty fun
@@klaw-rp6ji blind spot been in the game since ds3 it just wasn't good back then. The counter to blind spot if ur having trouble with it is just timing a counter attack and have thrusting spear talisman on it requires some hard swapping but that's just an essential PVP skill
@@fierygamingzilla69🤓
@@juliaoescravo4054 ?
@@fierygamingzilla69 “it requires some hard swapping but that’s just an essential pvp skill” *adjusts anime glasses*
Yeah I’m testing out every two handed weapon guard counter now. Usually do it with a shield in my off hand
@@TheRealFredbearPlush Nice man what’s awesome about guards counters is the unique animations for both 1H and 2H!
Wait does the shield with backhand blades have a different guard counter. That would be a move you would need an oddly specific setup for. Might mess with some of the weapons that powerstance themselves when you try and two hand like that
God these weapons were just made to be incredible in every respect😭
“O-oh, so you’re attacking me? Hmm.”
holy shit i haven't messed around much with guard counters at all but ive genuinely never even seen the bhb gc. that looks fucking awesome
@@hardboiledbug Hell yeah man I highly recommend checking them out! Bhb gc is the true spinning slash
Oh my god how did they not decide to make that guard counter the actual swift slash? It looks so much cooler, balanced, and would have bene more practical as an ash of war
@@REAL_SSC Okay now THIS I would have been okay with instead of that other abomination!
@@CapDayne_Levi right? Basically a power creeped sword dance the way I described it here but would not be a problem in comparison!
Bro is a genius. Best idea ever. From soft should let people send them criticism and ideas for fixes in pvp
Deflecting hardtear proving, yet again, it's the best thing to put in your physick
@@pictux424 Put that in your pipe n smoke it 💨
10:55 YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THEM, NOT JOIN THEM! This is ultimate betrayal
A hunter must hunt.
Nice clips
@@STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT Yoo your name and pfp is legendary 🔥
Because it's a DEX weapon. Usually players are playing with STR or INT builds - if we're talking two extreme poles. PvP-wise it's effective to delete players, PvE for AI enemies nah.
Well that’s just plain cool
Really should get the deflecting tear, that flask takes the game from elden ring to sekiro instantly
@@user-rv8yv4yh9n Yup one of the best new mechanics they added to dlc!
Yes I notice that.
But I see more people "teaching" the others to spam its unique Ash of War
Finally first!
Edit: love the vids
@@blueblade259 Ayyyee! Thanks man really appreciate you for being early ❤️
Man, Deflecting Hardtear really feels like someone at From finally figured out how to make Guard Counters valuable in normal gameplay, but only well after the game actually launched and they needed some way to sneak it in now.
@@TheNerfer To be fair this really only works so well because of the Leaden Hardtear poise physick!
they really wanted these pieces of kitchen knives to be the best weapons without hyperamor really, oh no wait, you can put sword dance on it
Guard Counters on this weapon are kinda slow tbh due to the multiple hits. You kinda need something to help its guard counters be good, like the flask tear.
People mash L2, failing to realize the guard counters, running attacks, and crouch attacks are godly
What is there to talk about backhand blades? SSS tier above every other weapon, straight up beats everything with ease. Blind spot L2 into two attacks and then repeat that till you win with little to counterplay as the bleed will interrupt retaliation and even parries. 2 attacks deal 60% hp and proc the extra 30% bleed instantly.
@@cloudshifter Yeah its clear From wanted these to shine in every way possible! Loved the idea of these pre dlc but when we got them it all went to hell
Prob cause it gaurd stats are terrible meaning if you miss a single deflect there goes all your stamina even if the guard counter itself is really good the bad gaurd stats make it very risky to use
This is truly a skill way of playing these weapons
@@Drew-im7is Never thought I’d hear that said about BHB until now!
@CapDayne_Levi right! I say that bc your main damage is from guard counter and BHB has bad guard ability, so u got to time it. High risk high reward
Is the guard counter dodgeable or able to be countered in some way if you are unlucky enough to have someone use it against you? Do you have to like roll towards them and then you won't get hit? Watching this it looks ridiculous. Backhand blade 2 handed moveset is pretty unfair I'm just realizing now. The two handed running r2 is insane the running r1s give the weapon absurd mobility and ashes like blindspot on these make these a death sentence at close range. I love using these weapons but something needs changed on them. Maybe making the poise damage worse for some attacks could be good. I hate how the dlc made all of these cool weapons and so many of them just aren't fair
Everything about this weapon is op ash shit they’re so damn good😂
@@CazDad It’s almost impossible to be bad when wielding these things!
7:22 Invasion 13 Best Clip
@@kevina.3373 Average pve invader experience 💀
are you using the deflect tear?
@@392Hemi-x3 Yeah you kind of have to because of the terrible guard boost bhb have…
Because the stamina damage is horrendous. Even with deflecting tear, you get maybe one or two actions at high endurance.
@@StarShade0 Yeah that’s a for sure downside! It uses a massive amount of green even with 50 end
Love your vids. 😁
@@dividetruth4124 You’re the best truth thank you! 😁🙏
@@CapDayne_Levi 👍🏾😊
Leda passed vigor test ;-;
How are u parrying the attack?
By pressing Block right before an attack and then pressing L2 to guard counter. Look up deflecting Hardtear!
Probably because you have to run poise tear not to get staggered by a stray fart
@@thewulf777 Stray fart 💨 that’s hilarious but so damn true…
The guard counter into that backhand ash was not a true combo right? i assume they could potentially roll the follow up ash?
and why did you use the godslayer seal? is it because it has a bit of str scaling on top of the S faith scaling?
Correct, it's just a good roll catch but not a true combo. And for your second question, I'm assuming he's using the godslayer seal because of the low faith requirement and high scaling. Bloodflame blade is mostly useful because of the way the bleed stacks, while the fire damage doesn't really scale well with faith regardless of wich seal you use. Hope this helps!
@@jordantaylor327 thanks Jordan.
too much setup the average backhand blades user can barely comprehend more than L2 spam
@@tacofitness1876 Too much setup took me out! 😂💀
I noticed it before, but doesn't it have low hyper armor? I mean, if you encountered a braindead r1 user, you might get interrupted constantly and have bad trades.
@@TheAlienPoison Yeah most guard counters don’t have HA. That’s why having leaden hardtear is also a must for this build to work properly
that's rakuyo spin to win lmao
3:45 bro is really spamming RoB in 2024
A lot of people do that I don't u derstand why
Is the deflecting tear dmg bonus still bugged? Last I checked, it doesn't apply the 40~80% dmg increase on guard counters.
@@h33day Wait really? I thought the damage increase was only for consecutive guard counters?
@@CapDayne_Levi Oh yes I meant for backhand blades specifically
not only the tear, but it seems that the curved sword talisman doesn't work either on backhand blades. not sure if that also includes the cirques or if it's specific to this weapon though (it has the same name of the weapon type...), because when I tested the smithscript cirques in pve, it did increase damage.
by the way, the smithscript cirques hit twice on the guard counter and deal crazy damage, you should try them out. the hit isn't super consistent though.
I have never even equipped this weapon type as from what i've seen and the people i've fought it's clearly broken beyond being satisfying to use against anybody. it feels as though the moment I put it in the armament slot, my nails might turn painted and a phallic organ might manifest in my mouth.
Haha. Wait until you try with a dueling shield offhand
@@Icneumone7 I have and it’s amazing 🔥
Do you need that much END to make this work?
@@garlicbreadpork I mean technically no but this specific guard counter takes up A LOT of stamina so I’d highly recommend
@@CapDayne_Levi Ah! Good to know. Dig the build!
With the level of damage the bloodflame blade is completely unnecessary lmao. You are doing nearly 2k damage before they even get close to being bled out
@@KingJobber It does help add like 100+ ar and is good for longer fights with the status proc. Also the buff just looks super cool
Just use the rusty anchor and spam R1 and you beat back hand blade l2
@@deaconetheridge3616 Considering most bhb users are braindead lol
I'll use back hand blades with other ashes but dont feel good when using blind spot. It's just too easy.
@@392Hemi-x3 I agree I felt ashamed every time I used blind spot. It’s so nasty it makes me not feel bad using storm stomp also 😅
It's most likely because of the awful reputation bhb has in the community. A lot of us shied away from it, and a few have it as a swap for situations that require cheese. Maybe one day I'll take give them a chance. Maybe......
@@ZeriocTheTank Man I was so damn hyped for these when dlc dropped but like you said the way people started using them gave it such a bad reputation! Definitely have to put my pride to the side every time I pick these up but at least this is a more honest way of using them 😅
As much as I like bhb the damage and their forward momentum is actually fucked up
i heard it is bugged: not being boosted by talisman and deflect tear
@@GaMeZaHoY That makes me sad…luckily it still did a crazy amount of damage, imagine if it wasn’t bugged!
What is that first attack?? It doesnt look like my R1 or R2
Guard counter.
@@VampireGhostie It’s just pushing L1 the block button right before an attack and then R2 for guard counter 👍
@@CapDayne_Levi You don’t have to hold l1 ? Just hit l1 before it connect ? Like a parry?
@@VeilofApocryphonit's basicaly a block timed right. Like on Sekiro.
@@VeilofApocryphonno, normally you do have to hold L1 to block, to then use the guard counter with R2. but in this video he's using the deflecting hardtear, which gives you special blocks (called deflects) that you do by pressing L1 at the right time just as the hit connects.
What no swift slash
Holly Hell
because the guard counter damage on the win blades are ass with out status proc, good job you have introduced more cancer to ligma gankers. i pray that no pve'ers see this vid
Lmao try that w dane footwork for oneshot dmg is so dumb
why dont you add commentary?
@@terrycruise-zd5tw Idk ive never done that before but seems like something cool for the future depending where this channel goes
Crazy dmg 😅😂
*generic comment about l2 spam*
Hey look, another video proving how BHB is broken
@@zkatom3773 True but this is possibly the most honest way to use such a distasteful weapon!
: O
@@aDarcone 😮
Why does everyone forget about guard counters? They're one of the coolest and smoothest combat mechanics in any game
@@jakewilson6600 I think it’s because it uses the forbidden block mechanic as well…
Cos you are fighting low lvl noobs that think rolling is a cosmetic choice. Meh
@@nerishustas9265 Wait but I’m a low level noob also
Tf is this
@@markitofernandes Finally a respectable way to use bhbs!
Wtffff
@@shut ftwww!
Idk maybe because this GAME SUCKS
Because the kind of players that Guard Counters are "good" against are also the type of players ANYTHING is good against.
But I guess that doesn't sound as good for TH-cam clickbait, huh?~
@@T3DNR3D you’re not wrong about the first part but cmon man clickbait? 😢
When you invade people who are buffing up for the boss, I lose respect for you. How about a bow, and a respectful leave?
what
@@holmesholmes.8784 yup, see 1:05 the game doesn’t place enemies or invader drop-in spots next to boss arenas for that purpose.
@@EStephensII you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@EStephensII I don't think Cap or anyone else cares about the respect of a crybaby like you. You're crying about invaders just for playing the game.
@@IliumGaming I disagree. Invasions can be lots of fun, and folks find a lot of creative ways to approach them. However, the fun factor goes way down when the team is prepping for a big boss. It can be an additional challenge for the invader because they’re catching the team at a moment where they’re possibly at their strongest. On the other hand, it’s more likely to result in players not using the multiplayer function at all (easier to just fight the boss themselves with a summon), therefore harming the replayability of the game.
I recently discovered this, like a blender..
@@micahhawkins8233 spin to win baby!
That’s disgusting
@@dixnyomouff6982 Definitely had to shower after this 🧼
@@CapDayne_LeviI love it when you do it