Of course it's not his fault. Higuruma didn't even know that Sukuna had a Cursed Tool up until the last second since I doubt they watched the Kashimo fight and even if he did, he didn't have time to consider the implications of the Cursed Tool. That I believe was Sukuna's plan against Higuruma and Judgeman.
THANK YOU!! Like u said, even if they did watch the Kashimo fight (they most likely did in my opinion)…. They’d still be so hell bent on their plans, plus a Gojo dying just put them even more on edge. Like it’s reasonable to think they didn’t have the leisure or time to factor in Sukuna’s vajra. I’d agree it wouldn’t make sense if Sukuna used a cursed tool in Shibuya or before (bcuz Higuruma documents all of Sukuna’s crimes from that time) but Sukuna didn’t so it actually makes sense.
Sukuna literally said IDGAF lets gooo! He had no plan against Higuruma because he needed no plan. As demonstrated in the last panel he killed everyone there in one slice he just wanted to see how the Executioners sword works out of curiosity.
@@FakeWeebThe problem with legal system debate is no weapon are allowed in court(sukuna is still holding vajra inside) and are before hand confiscated so it isn't viable for him to still be having vajra and thus having CT of weapon get confiscated(unless if former had counted as confiscated by verdict)
So many if, I much prefer to think it is part of the inconsistency of the story, something that tells me a real person is making this story week after week and mistakes can happen and it doesn’t take away any of the greatness of this manga/anime
Another thing about this is that, Sukuna himself actually was surprised by the outcome of the domain. Its stated “The only ones who realized something was amiss with this seemingly golden opportunity were Sukuna and Higuruma and himself.” This would heavily imply that Sukuna didn’t just suddenly “understand Higurumas domain better than Higuruma himself” as many have argued, and he just took full advantage of the result. Ofc now this means that they are at the mercy of Sukunas whims, since he wanted to see the executioner sword in action and possibly, with the good mood he is in, he’ll test the fruits of some of our fighters labors (such as Maki and maybe Yuta if he comes back) before he ends up getting bored and just endgames them all.
this confirms that sukuna was more than confident he would be able to take them on with kamutoke and black box anyway so outcome would be the same, idk why people are complaining and calling gege a bad writer when most of them are biased towards blue eyed fraud and so on
you think the fandom who keep spouting 'nothing can pass through infinity' despite multiple things have been literally shown to did so, can actually read these specific detail and figure out the implication?
I think my issue with the confiscation taking the cursed tool CT is that it feels forced, sukuna obtained kamutoke against kashimo and it didn’t matter because kashimo can just tank it, then he only used it to kill the crows that mei mei used and now kamutoke is just useless. So in short terms, the only reason for kamutoke to appear in the story was to save sukuna from confiscation 😅
@@samuraitadpole5459 he is, that’s why i think that leaving him with no CT but with a cursed tool and of course his natural physical abilities were more than enough to make a great fight against the sorcerers. I think there was no need to avoid that outcome in the way that it happened
I think it was implied Kamutoke was needed to trigger Sukuna's reincarnation as well (though this was never really outright stated). I think that was its primary purpose.
@@carlosbustos1982we don’t even know if taking his CT would get rid of his other possibly styles. Its implied that cleave, dismantle, and flame are things sukuna can do cause of his mastery of cursed energy. So it wouldn’t take all them, just one if possibly. His ct is something connected to “shrine.”
Nah bcuz you gotta remember that Higuruma is new sorcerer. He may be a prodigy but experience still matters. He would’ve caught onto this if he confiscating someone with a SPECIAL GRADE CURSED TOOL BEFORE. The likelihood of that is low. He may have fought someone with a cursed tool, but only special grades have a technique imbued within them (except for playful cloud)
@@Bri-OIt would have made more sense for Sukuna's cursed tool to be confiscated ONLY WHILE INSIDE Higuruma's DE due to the rule of "no violence". But, conveniently, Gege allowed it to enter Higuruma's DE just so it is then taken away even though how does it make sense for the weapon to be taken away AFTER the trail ends and not before?
@@Tojiiibecause it’s not a literal police that arrests people and seizes their weapons. It’s just a court domain. and based on its judgment that’s when confiscating can happen. Confiscating stuff before trail is a police job. Higuruma doesn’t have a police CT
@@aboyisebuke But 1 of his DE rules is "NO VIOLENCE". Weapons can be used to incite violence, therefore, it should have confiscated that cursed tool before the trail even started (RIGHT when Higuruma cast his DE).
Sukuna is about to slaughter a whole bunch of characters. I wasn't really surprised that there was a convenience for Sukuna (that has been happening for a while). I'm at the point where I want to see how this ends and look at this in retrospect.
I think the readers get confused sometimes since we see and know all that's happening from all points of views it's easy to forget the actual characters don't have that advantage.
The problem with this take is: the weapon confiscation should've been a sure hit effect of the DE. In courts of all over the world this is common since it can be used as proof of a crime, but it doesn't cancel the trial. It's just common procedure.
His domain doesn’t have sure hit because it’s not a sure kill domain. It’s more conditional like the domains for the older sorcerers. This was stated already
@@aboyisebukeevery DE has a sure hit effect, it’s a written rule. The sure hits are non-lethal in hakari and higaruma’s DE. They’re essentially the info dumps in hakari’s and the no violence rule in higaruma’s. Can’t be avoided.
My problem is that everything is so convenient for sukuna at this point in the story. Ever since he switched into Megumi everything that could go his way is going his way. Everything else makes sense with the curse tool, imo and was a good move, I’m just not a fan of how convenient everything is at this point
Well, the other option was him loosing his curse technique and using the curse tool instead (which is probably what he planned for) which might not be any better anyway.
@@ehrerik3786at this point in the story, we still don’t know anything about his true CT or what the black box does. This could’ve been a perfect opportunity to expand on that, but instead we got a very convenient outcome for sukuna. If you can’t see how everything has been going his way since he said “enchain” then you’re blind. His CT is not as strong as C/D. We know if he wanted to do he could just easily blitz everyone with C/D. Allowing them to live because of arrogance and then losing is boring in my eyes.
@@sggocela2013 it’s possible and that would be cool to see but 1) that doesn’t really follow the themes of JJK 2) when’s the last time a villain won in long shonen manga? 3) depends what you consider as “winning” for the villains
Nah for real. I don’t anyone was surprised when Villian Plot armor kicked in again. At this point it’s just getting excessive. If the slashing attack at the end killed Higaruma, then I’m dropping JJK, I’m tired of Gege always giving the villains the upper hand and lowballing almost every single good guy. The last time a character actually beat and killed a villain was Yuta vs the Reincarnations. Before that, idk. Only Villains beat Villains.
I like how Sukuna gets a cursed tool that we've never seen used beforehand in the series which he apparently used back in the Heian era. Then he doesn't use it against Gojo because of limitless, it does nothing against Kashimo since he's resistant to lightning and then it gets taken away before he uses it again. So the cursed tool only really exists for it get taken away by confiscation. Wouldn't it make more sense to take away Sukuna's CT so that we could see more of this cursed tool in action, since Sukuna's moveset for most of the series has just been cleave and dismantle?
The confiscation - tool thing makes sense. Judgeman has been shown to make on the fly choices. Yuji didn’t have a technique, so it confiscated his cursed energy. Sakuna had a cursed tool with a technique, so it decided to take that. It’s random chance but it makes sense Edit: Wow, people really like arguing about this. I have to assume you’re having fun, cause if you aren’t then why?
@@FenShen-us9tvI think, sukuna summoned vajra after the gojo fight because he expected higuruma and yuji to jump him. Most possibly, he took a gamble and it worked out.
The weapon thing is a problem, because yorozu couldn't know about higuruma domain. It is just a coincidence even if makes sense. And sukuna knowing more about higuruma domain than higuruma doesn't make sense, only if he went to the colage and become a top tier lawyer in a month.
Gege’s writing hasn’t been up to par since Gojo died. It feels sloppy compared to the previous arcs. Everything almost tied together or we had lose ends tied up. I think the fakeweeb got bullied/overwhelmed with the twitter warriors into changing his answer or at the very least agreeing with them. It makes no sense for higaruma to say that judgeman takes the CT. But, because he has the baby rattle, judgeman decides to take the technique from the tool. 😂like it would have made since if it took his CT and he still was able to use his tool. Showing more of what the CT can do, and how he used it in his era. I can understand why Gege did this so he can use Sukuna to kill off some characters, and to say “well we technically didn’t know everything about Higaruma’s domain so i’ll curve ball the audience.”
@@FakeWeeb the fact that Sukuna could read Higuruma desire to die and has an understanding of CE, he might have picked up Higuruma true CT intentions like the Judge passing judgment based on Higurumas subconscious desires. I may be making this up but the Judge might have confiscated Sukuna weapon because it was granting Higurumas wish to die even if Higuruma didnt outright spell itor made it intentional
I do feel like is a bit plot convinient, I would have prefer for his slashing to be taken, just for him to use one of the many abilities we already know he has
I rlly hope so cuz most times he’s an author that does more showing than telling. Like for this case, you REALLY had to think logically why a cursed tool’s technique would be taken first despite no mention of it in the past.
@danieloyeleye3257 Wouldn't it make more sense though if dismantle and cleave were confiscated because that's what he used in shibuya... what he's being tried for. Why is his punishment to lose an ability that he didn't even use? Also since judgeman ultimately is under higuruma's control shouldn't higuruna have some control over what ability gets taken?
@@samuraitadpole5459 higuruma said in chapter 244 whatever he thinks is possible judgeman thinks is possible meaning judgemans understanding of the law is limited to higurumas nollege so him not getting tried by curse technique removal is BS imagine in the court trial Sentencing you sentence the murder weapon instead of the actual person
I like that it took the cursed tools technique, it shows again that tricks aren't going to work and it's going to take everything to have a chance of winning
@@FakeWeebngl seeing people's reaction was hilarious especially since they act like any of the newly awakened and reincarnated sorcerers should just somehow have a cursed tool
My only issue is with this outcome is the fact that judgeman picked a cursed tool, despite it not even being the weapon involved in said crime. Even with the randomized aspect of higaruma's domain, you'd expect it to prioritize the weapons related to the crime being judged rather than just any tool the culprit happens to be holding
Judgeman confiscated Yuuji's CE even if it didn't have anything to do with his pachinko shenanigans. It's not about the tool related to the crime. It's about taking away the target's options for resistance
@@animatrix5945i think it confiscated Yuji's CE because it's the only 'weapon' that he has since Yuji is originally the only suspect. Now however it has becomes weird. The Judgeman knows that Sukuna used other 'tool' (in this case his CT) and not the Cursed Weapon. Moreover, said weapon were obtained and used only AFTER Shibuya genocide. So wth?
@@ShatteredGlass916doesn't matter, as it's literally unrelated to Pachinko crime anyway. It already only having 2 modes of judgement is already illogical.
@@ShatteredGlass916 Like I said, Yuuji's CE didn't have anything to do with the crime either way. The goal of confiscation has never been stated to be related to what the criminal used for the crime. It's all about stripping the target of their means of resisting Higgy. Even if Yuuji had a CT, it would still have been taken even if he didn't use it for the pachinko stuff
You can't call it bad writing or the characters being dumb since we readers didn't consider what would happen if he had a curse tool and we had more than a month to think of it. Also they were more preoccupied with getting the death sentence, and confiscation was just a bonus. Confiscation was also never guaranteed in their strategy as the 10 Shadows was and still is a factor. Sakuna lost most shikigami, but not all of them.
Right? We have the benefit of hindsight, that's why we think we deserve to complain about this, but realistically, Higgy and the others needed a Death penalty. Without it, even with confiscation, they would still be in a terrible situation
It is bad writing cuz Gege probably himself doesn't know much about law, Higuruma's domain is based on the concept of Law is blind, and it follows all the procedures of court like : no violence, chance to defend oneself and even a chance for a bloody retrial but somehow did not include confiscation of weapon which should have been done since procedure of court also includes no firearm in the premise accept those authorized, and conveniently the only aspect that the domain over looks ( confiscation of weapon) happens to help sukuna simply cuz he has a weapon , it's as if the domain overlooked the aspect just so that sukuna could get a plot twist / armour......again
wdym we didn't consider it? we would have consider it if cursed tools would have actually interacted with domains throught the story, we don't even know why confiscation even considers the cursed tool a part of sukuna, for all it knows it could have confiscated something from yuji since it considers him and sukuna the same person but different entities.
@@neeljha8609 1. considering japan has made TONS of manga that's purely about cosplay, having reptile as pet, ballroom dancing, you couldn't convince me they didn't hire anyone that could tell them the courtroom 101. 2. Higuruma already stated within the domain, violence is prohibited and everyone has respected that rule, even Sukuna. The confiscation of weapon seems like nitpick considering it's not an actual courtroom but still a DE. Doubly so when Sukuna didn't even defend himself against the DE, HE WANTED TO SEE THE SWORD. 3. Higuruma has been a sorcerer at most 1-1.5 months, and while he can immediately do DE, he has close to 0 knowledge about traditional jujutsu sorcery. I really doubt he has interacted with his DE enough to understand what loophole exist or the limitation of judgeman. I'm all for criticizing Gege for many things, but yours seems to nitpick for the sake of nitpick than actual criticizing.
Wait. But if in Japan weapons aren’t allowed in court , Sukuna shouldn’t have had his cursed tool with him inside of the domain. Which means it shouldn’t have been a viable target for confiscation.
Lmao if that’s your argument, then all of his ct should have been confiscated immediately after they step inside higuruma’s domain, instead of having to wait for a trial
@@heyoplays I’m not saying that he’s guilty I’m saying if it was a real courtroom the murderer wouldn’t have the murder weapon on their person during the trial. And yea I read. But I wasn’t making a comment on the actual manga. I was commenting the theory as to why it worked if you base it on how court works in reality.
This doesn’t rlly change the fact that Gege used the tool for this to happen, it was knock two birds with one stone . He can bring back sukunas weapon and then lead it into this
Well...I get that but his de is his main technique so of course he used it already. But like I said I do get the hikari has already used most of not all of his cards angle.
Remember Yuji is a cursed object, soaked in Sukuna's CE💁🏾♂️. He lost his ability to use CE in the domain. A CT is an application that manipulates CE. So confiscating one's CT is taking away one's ability to manipulate CE. So Yuji lacking a CT lossed his ability to use CE. So naturally confiscation isn't hard CT . There's a scale: 1. Loss of CTool (an object possessing a CT). 2. Loss of CT (an application of CE). 3. Loss of CE usage💁🏾♂️. Taking kamotoke was a fair judgement. It was our fault for assuming a binary to confiscation.
Allowing a weapon in acourt room already destroys the thing about his domain being based off an actual legal system. The weapon wouldnt be allowed in the court room to begin with. If anything, it shouldve been kicked out or temporarily confiscated before the trial if this was based on an actual court room. Also if sukuna is the target of the domain, why would the sure hit go for the tool rather than its actual target, sukuna? Ik judgeman chooses and stuff but this is convenience as clear as day. This is anime tho so ig rules are meant to be changed to move the story in a certain way. Thats just how i feel tho.
the problem isn't even that, it makes sense, but kamotoke only exists in the story to be taken away by confiscation and that's it, we have quite literally never seen kamotoke be actually used in a battle against anyone, since it's always useless so it only exists to save him here
Where the entirety of the 'weapon confiscated based on legality' falls is rarely has Higurama's domain been that restrictive to the Japanese legal system. Yuji was sentenced to death despite being 15 years old while the Japanese legal system restricts death penalties to individuals ONLY over the age of 18. It's still too convenient how everything panned out, Sukuna getting the cursed tool from Yorozu (who had 0 plot relevance), and further drives her character's purpose and CT solely to have existed JUST for this moment. As a way for Gege to justify Sukuna being able to counter Higuruma's domain, he created Yorozu. You'd also think Higuruma, with his insane intellect, would know or at least plan for a 'weapon contingency' to be apart of his Domain, ESPECIALLY given him being a lawyer. This is insane
Some people will still use the idea of "realism" to justify the convenience nonetheless. Judging by how the plot is going, sukuna will definitely get killed by an Asspull😂
You are so right. Saying "Why didn't they test it for cursed tools?" is so easy in hindsight. I've seen so many people claim that it should have been obvious to Higuruma that this was a possibility and yet not a single fan predicted this outcome before the 245 leaks dropped. And we readers even knew that Sukuna had the tool while the sorcerers had no clue.
either way, i believe it wouldve been far superior writing to confiscate the technique instead so we could see the full extent of kamutoke. narratively, taking away the technique wouldve been far more interesting. not to mention, if the "confiscating weapons" first was the reason for that, wouldnt it have made more sense to confiscate it BEFORE the trial? because having a weapon during trial doesnt seem very accurate lmao
Kamutoke is only temporarily confiscated, so we will likely see it return. In order to take away shrine they’re going to have to open another judgeman and go through another (random crime) trial. So I really see this can either lead to a flashback, or at least something from sukuna’s heian past maybe.
Oh man! Boy am I enjoying the tears... What's really surprising to me is people acting like even if Sukuna's whole inventory was confiscated, he wouldn't still dunk on their whole squad P.S Yuji's punch didn't do shit
That's kinda the point in my opinion. Things have been going pretty well for Sukuna. He wouldn't be hindered if you got rid of his "space slash". It's not like he doesn't already have high physical ability and a fire technique he can't use. Him being given a purple rarity tool by Uraume's air drop and it taking the brunt of Higuruma's domain feels kind of lame.
Thats kinda makes sense, but still it could be handled better. So lets say that Sukuna gets his CT confiscated. His CT being slashes + fuga(open). But it gets revealed that Sukunas technique is just too "voluminous", so only his slashes gets confiscated. Then when our crew thinks "Sukuna is left with just bare hands", he says "open" and uses another technique. So we could finaly have an explaination what Sukuna's technique realy is + Sukuna gets nerfed (no more space cutting slashes) + the battle would be much more interesting, because instead of using only slashes, Sukuna will be forced to use different techniques against different opponents. Even tho cursed tool confiscation makes sense, it still feels a little forced. For me, this was a golden opportunity to make this fight so much better, but Gege desided not to. I have faith in Gege, but for now his writing feels like non-stop Sukuna glazing
Yeah, I don't think Sukuna had planned for that either, however, aside from the cursed tool, he has the ten shadows, cleave and dismantle, potentially the fire technique and/or the hack box, that's a 1/3 or 1/4 of a chance. And I think that Sukuna could very well fight without either of those CTs, so he feels very confident declaring himself guilty from the start 🤷♂️
Definitely planned for it. That’s why he told them to hurry up he’s already see in. Remember angel said he needs to see something once to figure how it works
Uraume is definitely interesting to me. I wonder if he/she was akin to a sort of Wakashu to Sukuna? Wouldn't want to ever see that in a flashback of course, but just curious of the possibilities based on time and culture. Great vid as always! Hope you're surviving the winter better than I am. Been hibernating for over a month. Can't take the cold, wouldn't want to be put in a situation against them ever😂 Also find it more convenient to confiscate the cursed tool. Aside from Kashimo's joke of electrical usage, electricity would be harder for most to counter, whereas learning to counter by filling space, similar to a domain or maximum/extension like Nanami did to escape Mahito imo makes more sense in terms of chances for survival. Especially if one's own body is like a domain. Could be a necessary survival condition.
Damn a wakashū really.... I have no words. I don't think i would find it even remotely funny though i would like to say that wakashū date back till 1603 to 1867 only which is during the edo era while sukuna and Uraume are from heain era which is 794 to 1185, so i doubt that wakashū really existed back then but its still possible.
@apersonwhohassomething Yeah, the main reason why I would also doubt it, is simply because Sukuna is said to mainly keep Urame around due to cooking/sorcery skill. But Kaisen as well as many other series' seem to have major implications of the darker sides of culture, that often get swept under the rug. Reminds me of post bronze age Greece, where a lot of people today try to normalize Pederasty, even though there is counter evidence to explain that it was seen as a major cultural issue even in those times to prey on youth. Saw a piece on that and how due to our western education, it almost has to be seen as normal rather than the horrible social construct that it really was/is to this day tbh. It's actually what I'm working on as a thesis for modern (post bronze) religion and cult practice that seems to have a very suss way of turning youth into idols, and sexualizing them. Plus it brings a lot of questions to the light about how we have such odd abilities that don't seem like they belong to Japan in JJK. A lot of my colleagues always have fun discussing revelations on Angel and more characters in the series' past that are super out of place. I always draw extreme caution now when reading chapters and prefer to get the green light from reviewers that it's safe to even look at before reading. Still haven't actually read this one yet, and always prefer the comments or video makers to let me know if it's too graphic in the sense of cannibalism or other nasty business like that. Considered outright skipping this fight if we even saw the info Judgeman would provide... getting older and having new revelations and perspectives on some of these series' hurts my soul sometimes when I read them, but I'm trying since JJK actually does a surprisingly good job in adhering to tradition... would like a little bit more, but when compared to many other attempts, this series is special, to say the least!
My guess is like the mention of Yuta is because he's picked up or sensed that he's nearby. He's saying that because he kept his word of killing kenjaku and returning
I really think that the reason the cursed tool was confiscated, was due to sukuna being on such a higher tier in the understanding of cursed energy, it wouldnt be too far fetched that the tool was the most confiscation could handle, so it was the target of the technique.
The confiscation of CT’s Tool Cursed Technique makes sense. The domain prioritize targeting that, may have been influenced by the fact that; the ones who bring cursed tool to battle would likely be a Sorcerer without cursed technique to begin with, or those who has a weak CT that they’d rely on Cursed Tool, so in a sense the domain always assume that a “Toji” or a “Maki” would be sentenced whenever some Sorcerer is within that said domain with a Cursed Tool, it totally eliminates the possibility that someone as strong as Sukuna would be carrying such item to assist him in battle- So yeah, it’s not Higuruma’s fault and he himself is literally new to the whole sorcery thing, so he definitely had not been aware
@7:05 Gege is so freaking lucky that he has a fan base that tries to make sense out of his bs lmao. We can assume it's based off of modern Japanese law but its uniqueness as a trial system separates it from that Japanese judicial system because of the crimes that judgment could put forward or put to the side as a lesser priority. I truly do believe it was really convenient for Sukuna in advance.
What my thoughts are on this curse tool confiscation thing is that. Sukuna thought of using the curse tool if his innate ability was taken away that’s why he had the curse tool with him but it turned out the opposite way which somehow gave sukuna the advantage. And I think the tool was confiscated because he was about to use it
What I think most people fail to realize is that we never get an in depth description of everyone’s power and limitations. Gojos domain when he used it against Jogo for example, from the anime you couldn’t tell if it was because of the area that close to Gojo wasn’t affected, if yuji wasn’t affected because Gojo could pick, or if it’s because he was being touched. Didn’t find out til the sukuna fight. We don’t fully understand how Yutas power work either. Up until gojo we didn’t know if the shrine was the center of sukunas domain or not. I feel like just like we don’t know everything the characters don’t either. Sometimes they learn as they go. Sukuna had his technique for 1000 years and didn’t know he could cut through the world itself…but we surprised the higuruma who’s barely been a sorcerer for a month didn’t know about it’s affect in curse tools?
We are talking about how the crew didn't talk about possibiltu of sukuna using the Cusrse Tool but we are forgrting forgetting how Yuji and Angel didn't tell GOJO about Sukuna's Domain being barrierless
So basically when Higaruma activated his DE and Judgeman took away Sakuna's cursed tool all it simply was just a temporary confiscation until Judgeman passed the death penalty sentence and a permanent confiscation of his cursed tool. I believe it's the equivalent of here in the US where the judge gives a summary judgement because there is more than enough evidence to convict however where the fault lies with Higaruma just like with any other prosecutor of the law in that its about the conviction and not the actual execution (pun intended) of justice. Instead of trying to go for the optimal outcome from a prosecutorial stand point Higaruma was too focused on trying to get the death penalty sentence passed and acquire the executioner's sword and thought the judge would take away Sakuna's cursed techniques but whether through accident, bad story writing or Sakuna's foresight took away only Sakuna's tools while still leaving him with MS and ten shadows. In summary Higaruma messed up in miscalculating how arrogant and confident Sakuna would be during the trial because he thought Sakuna would try and defend himself but instead Sakuna straight up said "yeah I did all that ish. The only reason why I'm entertaining this is because I wanted to see that fancy sword of yours. Oh btw the judge only took my weapon away and not these hands and the magic I'm about to slap you around with. Now what are you going do?". Legally this outcome seems shotty but then again this is Sakuna who can and will tell any judge to go eff themselves before stomping them and any enforcer of the law out and from a story perspective well we can't nerf Sakuna too much before Itadori gets his hands on him.
I don't get why people are calling this plot armour. Like sukuna won't mop the floor with them with his CE alone. Gege has something planned, let him cook
@@NasiruMubarak-pp9sc It absolutely is, Everyone including the main cast expected Sukuna to lose his CT and be shaken enough so they could stand a chance but Gege literally pulls this bullshit out of his arse and says "confiscation prioritizes cursed tools".
9:12, this argument makes no sense, Sukuna didn’t have a cursed tool in the month timeskip. The ice person whose name I can’t spell legit air dropped Sukuna the Kametoke after the battle with Gojo. After that, Kashimo got cut to ribbons and Yuji and Higuruma initiated the jjk jumping. They had no time to think of the interaction.
If you are talking about the Modern Law, then it's not possible for you to have a weapon in the first place when you enter the court. If we are speaking in those terms then the domain should have "auto dropped" Sukuna's cursed tool outside the domain itself. Correct me if I'm wrong, I am not into politics.
the only person with a cursed tool with a cursed texhnique is maki,but she doesn’t have a cursed technique or cursed energy,higuruma may have tested it on her but just assumed it took the cursed tool as a substitute for the ct or ce
My guess is since he admitted his guilt, it works similarly to taking a plea deal. It’s normal to give a lower sentencing if they don’t have to go thru the process of a criminal trial where there’s a chance they can dodge litigation.
Ooh, that makes sense. Couple that with his theory of prohibition of weapons in a court room + basically RNG when it comes to confiscation could probably explain why the Kamutoke was seized first. I have a feeling that they will explain this revelation in the upcoming chapters.
yeah i mean for me its pretty simple, you can't plan for something when you dont even know the possibility exists. Nobody from jujutsu high saw him recieve the tool after his fight with yorozu and he didn't use it until after they had already started moving in to execute the plan so the first time any of them would have seen it is right after the kashimo fight and at that point its simply too late to do anything about it if they even notice him holding it in the extremely brief window before higuruma opened his domain
Well time to change your opinion again. Firstly even if the legal system first confiscates the criminals weapon. You gotta understand that Kamutoke wasn't confiscated, the CT ambued to it was. Also if that was the rule then Kamutoke wouldn't even be inside the court room. Secondly, Why would judgeman confiscate the curse technique of the tool which had absolutely nothing to do with sukunas crime in trial . Wouldn't it literally make more sense that the Technique USED To commit the crime would be confiscated First. Thats like saying that The water gun the criminal had on hand during the trial is confiscated over then AK47 used to commit the crime. Thirdly, it makes literally no sense that the weilder of the domain itself didn't know of such a condition or had never experienced it. Gojo has never experienced infinite void so how does he know that it feeds you infinite information? Also higuruma had like 100 points and you are telling me there wasn't a single person who used a curse tool? Playful cloud is the only tool without a CT. Also you have the skip part. They should have already underwent bunch of scenarios about how it went.
I honestly think todo even with one hand would have been massive help as support in this fight. He could 100% steal kamutoke from sukuna since he could just switch it out of his hand and his ability in general would just be very useful as support. He could just stay at a distance with ui ui and use his hand to clap. Which yuta could have healed his hand anyway...
His hand will never be healed I love Todo but wtf is so hard for you guys to understand, Mahito didn’t just destroy his physical hand he destroyed the hand in his soul as well, meaning anybody trying to repair it would just turn it into a shrapnel grenade over and over forever.
@@snowleopard8986Exactly, Sukuna said he won’t heal Junpei when it’s later revealed he was kind of covereing his butt because it wasn’t just a matter of he won’t heal Junpei, but also because he couldn’t actually heal Junpei.
2:20 not necessarily since part of the reason Gojo survived is not just because of his RCT but also because of his durability and simple domain. Hakari has not yet shown the ability to use simple domain and even if he can it is unlikely that his barrier mastery is as good as Gojos. So there is a good chance that his simple domain and domain expansion will crumble under Sukunas domain.
Shouldn't Angel have known that Sukuna may get a curse tool though and bring that up? Idk man, I mean it makes sense but it's still plot induced weirdness. Not that it matters, technique or no technique Sukuna was dunking on all of them with raw strength alone LOL
They have the rules downloaded into their brains when the domain first opens so Sukuna knew from the first time when Yugi was on trial. The way the manga states the rule after the fact is like a reminder that this rule was explained. Hence Sukuna and Higuruma knew something the others didn't. Yuji would have been told the rule too but we know how his mind works :S
If you don’t like the “no weapons in court” idea, here’s another angel: cursed tools are more refined than innate techniques. Cursed tools don’t age, don’t run out of energy, their technique doesn’t burn out. Even if Shrine is more dangerous, infinite Lightning bolts is more refined because It’s imbued in an object
The only problem with "the whole crew is sort of forgetting about the possibility of Sukuna having a weapon" is the fact that they literally had angel with them A character who was present in the same golden era as and who saw Sukuna in action in his glory . This means his usage of both his weapons , Angel saw first hand already. Thinking about it Angel would be the one person who could have told the heroes everything about Sukuna's abilities. Including the infamous "open" Sukuna himself stated in his fight with Jogo that a cursed spirit probably wouldn't know his abilities, this probably includes modern sorcerers as well But people from the same era as him ? They would know the most about Sukuna abilities. It still gives me the ick .. how none of them considered the fact Sukuna had an open domain and they were really surprised about it when they saw Gojo and Sukuna clash
Ugh another reason why Hana and Angel are a huge L Angel should have been upfront with all of Sukunas abilities and relayed it to them and Gojo before his fight. Like the fact that Sukuna can learn something first time seeing it was said during that one month skip, no i was said while during the fight to the people who needed that information the least compared to Gojo. Gege can you kill them please, what purpose have they served seriously
Do you imply that someone can enter a court room with a visible weapon on their hands freely ? Knowing that Higuruma stopped Sukuna from using said weapon against Yuuji before the trail
Only special grade cursed tools have cursed techniques in them. The rest only have cursed energy. And the reason that the cursed tool was taken instead of one of sukunas techniques is because the cursed tool had a cursed technique embued in it. This plan was a gamble and only took into account just ten shadows and shrine. But because sukuna came in possession of the kamutoke during the fight, it threw their plan off. Just real unfortunate that he was lucky lol
a thing to note is also that now with the tool gone every attack of sukuna uses up cursed energy and after gojo he doesnt have the usual basicly unlimited amount
It makes sense either way cuz it’s a curse tool, with a curse technique, in his possession, so even without the law about confiscating weapons first, there’s still a 50/50 shot of judgeman taking either the curse tool or shrine. However, the curse tool being introduced to do literally nothing except protect him from confiscation is bad plot armor
The logic of a weapon bein confiscated when your a criminal is why everything is taken from you and you can’t attack inside the domain, so logically it still makes no sense that it took the weapon and not his CT
Interesting but you’d think that just being in the domain would remove sukunas weapons since he has a rule for no violence and that ya know weapons aren’t allowed in courts in the first place. This feels like gege gave sukuna this tool solely as an out for this very particular situation. As the tool has served no other real purpose for sukuna other then then this.
Just go back to his first fight with yuji when yuji tried to attack higoroma at that moment the domain stopped him because he was about to do violence that mean having a cursed weapon in there is the same the domain won't do anything until sukuna uses it and he didn't
I have no idea how people are saying kamutoke is useless and we haven't even seen it's end use. There could be some nonsense where it fuses with the trident later or he absorbs it or whatever. I think we're just spoiled as readers and have no patience for delayed gratification.
See the thing is that in the crew, Maki is also present so she should have thought what would happen if she decided to willingly enter the domain and since she is a cursed tool user she should have thought what would be confiscated if she doesn't have any cursed technique or even cursed energy.
I have a theory of why the cursed tool was confiscated. I’m not completely sure how valid this is but it makes sense to me. We already know that Sukuna has the ability to use multiple techniques, or at least his ability is able to replicate or store multiple techniques. But what if we are looking at it the wrong way. We know yuji wasn’t born with a technique, yet we see in the latest chapters that he is now able to use one or multiple with the new arms and his soul swapping ability teased in the earlier chapters. So what if sukunas techniques aren’t “techniques” in the traditional sense that we know of throughout the story. What if confiscation works only on techniques etched into the body, and not on techniques acquired through other means. We know yuji was supposed to be the perfected vessel for sukuna, so what if he is actually similar to sukuna or related in some way not just by blood, but also his abilities. If Yuji is able to acquire cursed techniques without being born with them in the first place, wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume sukuna can too? This is purely speculation, but perhaps Sukuna (just like yuji) wasn’t born with an inate technique, like every other sorcerer in the series, there fore, there was no “inate” cursed technique to be confiscated by judgement, instead he has other peoples techniques he’s acquired throughout the Hiene Era which don’t technically count as his own, so perhaps this is our first tease as to what sukunas real abilities are. Because when Yuji was in Higurumas domain the first time, he was charged with confiscation as well, but if the ability to acquire new cursed techniques was an actual “Inate technique” that is what would have been confiscated instead of his cursed energy. So maybe Judgement has an order of operations it goes by, maybe technique first, then any weapons held by the opponent, then cursed energy. And since sukuna has no “inate technique” but he was holding a weapon, the weapon was taken rather than his cursed energy. I know this is a reach however we’ve all read this series, and at this point we should all know there is meaning In everything gege does. Gege doesn’t do ass pulls, his story telling is fantastic and he never does something just because it will help the villains or hero’s of the story win a fight. Everything in the story can and will be explained at some point so I feel like this is very important to solving the mystery of what sukunas true abilities are. Just an idea, I think the reasons outlined in the video are just as valid if not more so. I’ve just always wondered why sukunas has always been so cryptic whenever he talks about his abilities, and he’s the only sorcerer in the series we’ve ever seen actually change an entire aspect of their “techniques” such as him changing the target of cleave and dismantle to space rather than the object he’s aiming for. So I don’t think its out of the question for sukunas abilities to be much more complex then we are used to.
Even if they had known about the cursed tool and that it would be confiscated, do we really think they would have been able to take the cursed tool away from Sukuna? Like, this might have been the only possible outcome either way. Separately, I’m curious if the squad will actually end up using Yuruzu’s gift *against* Sukuna now that it is confiscated.
That depends If they can use confiscate it weapons or heck where do the confiscated weapons go You're also right because even if they knew in hindsight about the curse tool It would be impossible to take it away from him in the first place Plus The lightning that comes off of the weapon seemed strong anyway able to semi damage someone who's very very resistant to lightning No matter how it goes their always going to end up being in sukunas mercy
@@noriikari8660 thanks. the salty fans somehow think our heroes are going to win against shrineless Sukuna simply because they said so?? lmao they forgot 'Nah, I'd win'
@@zizu-lakaka Exactly Like you mean to tell me that we expect the heroes to win against someone who's straight up body like one of the top fives like it's nothing who is in a transformation that ups his stats yeah I just don't see it I swear you're going to have to give him the Madara treatment Or give yuji six paths Naruto or Ichigo final getsuga from bleach treatment Because I just don't see it plus after him they have to fight kenjaku (I probably butchered his name) Like this story really made every single hero the underdog in these scenarios and I like it My biggest fear is just that I wanted to end in a satisfying way that doesn't feel rushed or just flat out bad
I still feel like the point about tools is already restricted under the rule of non violence so using that logic it doesn't make sense because in the domain sukuna can't use it anyways so that is already dealt with, so in court that doesn't matter because it won't be used....so then after the verdict sukuna's CE should have been taken because that's literally the top priority, also the verdict should be handed to the accused if wer'e talking about the law here. in real life the verdict doesn't apply to weapons or anything. if it was about the tool there wouldn't have been evidence provided or a hearing done
im surprised people are complaining abt this outcome. Obviously it feels like an ass pull, but if higaruma were to take his ct away, I dont think we'd see the full story behind "fuga" and the rest of his ct unless higaruma dies later on.
I think ppl underestimate how potent of a cursed tool kamutoke is as well, I mean it would’ve straight up one tapped kashimo without his immunity. And that teleport ability is just insane, I really wonder what the CT of the weapon is because it seems to be more than simple electricity manipulation.
It makes sense because when Yuji got confiscation without a CT it took his Cursed energy instead of a technique, this is basically the opposite of that
The issue is that it took his CE because he had no CT at the time. The CE was to compensate for the lack of CT. However, this time apparently the cursed technique is apparently a compensation for a cursed tool? Moreover, Yuji was severly handicapped when fighting Higurama due to no CE enhancing his skills. Sukuna has lost nothing
Honestly Higaruma plan was solid he just didn’t expect they were going to take Sukuna curse tool. Either way this is bad because Sukuna can still use his curse technique they need to make a plan to counter his slashes
Hakari is Gege Kenpachi 😂😂 no matter how much damage he takes he keeps on fighting & he is completely different from the other students of jujutsu high
At first i hated the curse tool confiscation and thought it was bad writing but It makes sense in that they trusted a brand new sorceror that doesn't entirely understand his domain and the effects. Higurama is incredible but he just hasn't had enough experience to take on sakuna so it makes sense.
The issue is that confiscation is the equivalent to prison (taking liberty away). Confiscating cursed tools should be a sure hit that happens regardless of the trial (nobody keeps their guns in a trial lol)
What about the Angel then? Did she forget that Sukuna used weapons? Why confiscate the tool that wasn't the crime tool? It makes no sense to assume, that they didn't count on technique confiscation and decided to jump in, when he can just one shot them
I’m not sure if he would necessarily be able to survive Sakuna slicing technique because it isn’t stated that sakuna can survive his own curse technique
Every Cursed Technique has its weakness. Plus Higuruma was a Sorcerer for like 1 month trying shit with his Domain Expansion. Domains are the greatest feat in JJK, Higugura is probably just not skilled enough to conrol anything in his domain. If he was stronger or more experienced he might be able to choose the crime and the Technique that gets confiscated. Also Sukuna is a fking genius and knew about the Domain so he probably knew this was gonna happen. It was said that Judge-Man has all the evidence from Cameras and stuff, so he can't magically know everything. So there is the possibility that JudgeMan doesnt know Sukunas Cursed Technique, It might not be Cleave or Dismantle but the "Open" and shrine stuff. Maybe there is no Evidence ANYWHERE in the world that reveals Sukunas Cursed Technique.
I kinda of felt like him having the tool and it’s CT being confiscated instead made plenty of sense. At this point in the story it’s clear that Sukuna knows and understands cursed energy better than anyone, so while he might not have been certain, I don’t think it would be too far-fetched to believe he thought that judgeman would confiscate the tool rather than his CT. Considering he watched Yuji fight Higuruma before, and he knew that he would eventually take over Megumi, I find it harder to believe Sukuna wouldn’t have thought of some way to counteract Higuruma’s domain. As far as how he received the tool, I feel like that was the plot showing how he ended up with the tool. Either way, it would not have been surprising seeing him with ANY cursed tool as a means to attempt to counteract Higuruma’s domain. I don’t believe he knew for certain it would work, but I do believe it was Sukuna’s gamble to see if it would
It doesn't help that the fact a good number of the fanbase doesn't even pay attention to the details and because of that plot twist will become to them asspull and for example to this day i see people say todo doesn't need to clap to activate his CT or why doesn't yuta just heal todos hand so he can get his CT back
I disagree I don’t this is the reason his curse technique wasn’t taken and I don’t think it’s random. I think Judgeman looks at Jujutsu Sorcerers in layers with the first layer being their curse energy, the second layer being their curse technique, and the third layer being any curse item/tools they possess and confiscates things from top to bottom. This makes sense if you look at what Judgeman took from Yuji the first time he got hit with the Domain and how Judgeman didn’t take anything the second time Yuji got hit with the domain. This makes even more sense when you realize Yuji is the first person without a curse technique that Higuruma fought and Sukuna is most likely the first person with curse tool that higuruma fought.
This might be far-fetched, but is Sukuna just a character like Ging from HxH? I mean Ging just has talent for seeing and replicating Nen abilities so would Confiscation lead to not as much as a nerf?? Curse Energy & Techniques might function differently so feel free to correct me
Even Yuji with no cursed technique had his cursed energy confiscated in its place. Higuruma himself was surprised by this because it was new information he had not yet previously encountered. It makes complete sense that the confiscation would prioritize different things as its been shown before. I get that people think a genius like Higuruma should have thought of the possibility, but its a weak argument. The dude isnt omniscient.
About police taking suspect's weapon. They do it because gun in suspect hands is the bigger threat than just the suspect, once they take it, it's usually easy to pin down suspect. It's pretty clear that in Sukuna's case HE is the real threat not his tool. Imagine you are police and terrorist has a rocket launcher and a knife, what would you prioritize taking away from them?
I think you misunderstood something about Uraume's statement. She said that Hakari's regeneration powers are better than Satoru's or Sukuna's, but you explained that it works in a way where Hakari can keep regenerating faster than Sukuna is dealing damage to him. Simply not true, a better example would be that if any of those three keep continually getting damaged, Hakari would be in the best state by the end because his regeneration is better, not that he can outsustain Sukuna's or Gojo's cursed techniques.
My Prediction: Uraume will die due to hakari and maybe someone else helping him, Sukuna gets pissed (possible flashback for him and uraume) and attacks Hakari, Hakari hits Jackpot and tanks thousands of slashes from Malevelent Shrine, Sukuna pulls out the allmighty "Open" and burns him to a crisp. Leading into the reveal of Sukunas Cursed Technique.
Another thing is they didnt even know he had the cursed tool until it was too late. Even than, Sukuna knows that it isnt permanent and he's realistically just got to either wait out until he got his technique back, or kill Higuruma and get it back immediately. On top of that the cursed tool is also extremely strong so no mstter what. They were screwed, one way or another
Of course it's not his fault. Higuruma didn't even know that Sukuna had a Cursed Tool up until the last second since I doubt they watched the Kashimo fight and even if he did, he didn't have time to consider the implications of the Cursed Tool.
That I believe was Sukuna's plan against Higuruma and Judgeman.
THANK YOU!! Like u said, even if they did watch the Kashimo fight (they most likely did in my opinion)….
They’d still be so hell bent on their plans, plus a Gojo dying just put them even more on edge. Like it’s reasonable to think they didn’t have the leisure or time to factor in Sukuna’s vajra.
I’d agree it wouldn’t make sense if Sukuna used a cursed tool in Shibuya or before (bcuz Higuruma documents all of Sukuna’s crimes from that time) but Sukuna didn’t so it actually makes sense.
Sukuna literally said IDGAF lets gooo! He had no plan against Higuruma because he needed no plan. As demonstrated in the last panel he killed everyone there in one slice he just wanted to see how the Executioners sword works out of curiosity.
@@InquisitionL6agreed people acting like sukuna had this all planned like my man dont giv a fk after gojos death
@@FakeWeebThe problem with legal system debate is no weapon are allowed in court(sukuna is still holding vajra inside) and are before hand confiscated so it isn't viable for him to still be having vajra and thus having CT of weapon get confiscated(unless if former had counted as confiscated by verdict)
So many if, I much prefer to think it is part of the inconsistency of the story, something that tells me a real person is making this story week after week and mistakes can happen and it doesn’t take away any of the greatness of this manga/anime
Another thing about this is that, Sukuna himself actually was surprised by the outcome of the domain. Its stated “The only ones who realized something was amiss with this seemingly golden opportunity were Sukuna and Higuruma and himself.” This would heavily imply that Sukuna didn’t just suddenly “understand Higurumas domain better than Higuruma himself” as many have argued, and he just took full advantage of the result. Ofc now this means that they are at the mercy of Sukunas whims, since he wanted to see the executioner sword in action and possibly, with the good mood he is in, he’ll test the fruits of some of our fighters labors (such as Maki and maybe Yuta if he comes back) before he ends up getting bored and just endgames them all.
This makes Sukuna’s plot armor allegations even worse lmao. Bro didn’t even know Gege would suck him off this much 😂
this confirms that sukuna was more than confident he would be able to take them on with kamutoke and black box anyway so outcome would be the same, idk why people are complaining and calling gege a bad writer when most of them are biased towards blue eyed fraud and so on
you think the fandom who keep spouting 'nothing can pass through infinity' despite multiple things have been literally shown to did so, can actually read these specific detail and figure out the implication?
@@YowaiMo79 because gege's writing feels so different we're scared of not knowing what will happen
@@Username-cs1bi haha, you see, you aren’t wrong. The reading comprehension curse is stronger than ever.
I think my issue with the confiscation taking the cursed tool CT is that it feels forced, sukuna obtained kamutoke against kashimo and it didn’t matter because kashimo can just tank it, then he only used it to kill the crows that mei mei used and now kamutoke is just useless. So in short terms, the only reason for kamutoke to appear in the story was to save sukuna from confiscation 😅
Tbf sukuna is a beast either way
@@samuraitadpole5459 he is, that’s why i think that leaving him with no CT but with a cursed tool and of course his natural physical abilities were more than enough to make a great fight against the sorcerers. I think there was no need to avoid that outcome in the way that it happened
I think it was implied Kamutoke was needed to trigger Sukuna's reincarnation as well (though this was never really outright stated). I think that was its primary purpose.
@@carlosbustos1982we don’t even know if taking his CT would get rid of his other possibly styles. Its implied that cleave, dismantle, and flame are things sukuna can do cause of his mastery of cursed energy. So it wouldn’t take all them, just one if possibly. His ct is something connected to “shrine.”
@@SemaphorFur No. He just witheld transforming into his original body he didn't need Kamutoke to do it. Any reincarnated sorcerer can do that.
The 1st rule of every courtroom is NO WEAPONS ALLOWED. He really should have caught onto that.
Nah bcuz you gotta remember that Higuruma is new sorcerer. He may be a prodigy but experience still matters. He would’ve caught onto this if he confiscating someone with a SPECIAL GRADE CURSED TOOL BEFORE. The likelihood of that is low. He may have fought someone with a cursed tool, but only special grades have a technique imbued within them (except for playful cloud)
@@FakeWeebit’s not about Higurama not understanding how his technique works. What courtroom allows defendants to keep weapons on them?
@@Bri-OIt would have made more sense for Sukuna's cursed tool to be confiscated ONLY WHILE INSIDE Higuruma's DE due to the rule of "no violence". But, conveniently, Gege allowed it to enter Higuruma's DE just so it is then taken away even though how does it make sense for the weapon to be taken away AFTER the trail ends and not before?
@@Tojiiibecause it’s not a literal police that arrests people and seizes their weapons. It’s just a court domain. and based on its judgment that’s when confiscating can happen. Confiscating stuff before trail is a police job. Higuruma doesn’t have a police CT
@@aboyisebuke But 1 of his DE rules is "NO VIOLENCE". Weapons can be used to incite violence, therefore, it should have confiscated that cursed tool before the trail even started (RIGHT when Higuruma cast his DE).
She broke the pipes while saying how modern sources try not to break things. Showing she’s not like them
Damnn that’s a great catch
Sukuna is about to slaughter a whole bunch of characters.
I wasn't really surprised that there was a convenience for Sukuna (that has been happening for a while).
I'm at the point where I want to see how this ends and look at this in retrospect.
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I want to drop the manga and come back when it's finished, but I'm a manga addict. That's a big 1st world problemo
Not a SOUL complained about gojos many conviences cut it outtt
@NAGASERPENT Gojo living in your head rent free, lmao 🤣.
What does this have to do with Gojo? (It's a rhetorical question. I don't want to know.)
I think the readers get confused sometimes since we see and know all that's happening from all points of views it's easy to forget the actual characters don't have that advantage.
Exсept sukuna, ye. He always knew everything about everyone
I don’t think thats why this happened.
The problem with this take is: the weapon confiscation should've been a sure hit effect of the DE. In courts of all over the world this is common since it can be used as proof of a crime, but it doesn't cancel the trial. It's just common procedure.
His domain doesn’t have sure hit because it’s not a sure kill domain. It’s more conditional like the domains for the older sorcerers. This was stated already
The domain doesn't confiscate weapons during a trial because no violence is possible in it. The weapon can't be used anyway
@@aboyisebuke no violence is a sure hit effect, my point still stands
@@sylph4252 but since it's a trial weapons should've been confiscated anyway
@@aboyisebukeevery DE has a sure hit effect, it’s a written rule. The sure hits are non-lethal in hakari and higaruma’s DE.
They’re essentially the info dumps in hakari’s and the no violence rule in higaruma’s. Can’t be avoided.
My problem is that everything is so convenient for sukuna at this point in the story. Ever since he switched into Megumi everything that could go his way is going his way. Everything else makes sense with the curse tool, imo and was a good move, I’m just not a fan of how convenient everything is at this point
Well, the other option was him loosing his curse technique and using the curse tool instead (which is probably what he planned for) which might not be any better anyway.
@@ehrerik3786at this point in the story, we still don’t know anything about his true CT or what the black box does. This could’ve been a perfect opportunity to expand on that, but instead we got a very convenient outcome for sukuna. If you can’t see how everything has been going his way since he said “enchain” then you’re blind. His CT is not as strong as C/D. We know if he wanted to do he could just easily blitz everyone with C/D. Allowing them to live because of arrogance and then losing is boring in my eyes.
@@khalilwilson2586 i mean there could also be a possibility of the villains being victorious at the end of JJK.
@@sggocela2013 it’s possible and that would be cool to see but 1) that doesn’t really follow the themes of JJK 2) when’s the last time a villain won in long shonen manga? 3) depends what you consider as “winning” for the villains
Nah for real. I don’t anyone was surprised when Villian Plot armor kicked in again. At this point it’s just getting excessive. If the slashing attack at the end killed Higaruma, then I’m dropping JJK, I’m tired of Gege always giving the villains the upper hand and lowballing almost every single good guy. The last time a character actually beat and killed a villain was Yuta vs the Reincarnations. Before that, idk. Only Villains beat Villains.
I like how Sukuna gets a cursed tool that we've never seen used beforehand in the series which he apparently used back in the Heian era. Then he doesn't use it against Gojo because of limitless, it does nothing against Kashimo since he's resistant to lightning and then it gets taken away before he uses it again. So the cursed tool only really exists for it get taken away by confiscation.
Wouldn't it make more sense to take away Sukuna's CT so that we could see more of this cursed tool in action, since Sukuna's moveset for most of the series has just been cleave and dismantle?
Yeah it's very rushed and contrived. Maybe one of the worst moments in the plot for me tbh
@@TheChronoGok then stop keep up with it then
@DiMotherShip did you have a stroke or something 💀?
@@DiMotherShip its a valid criticism tho
Oh wow, didn't even think about that lol. That is suspiciously convenient.
The video feels like it ends super abruptly
Ye apologies for that, always busy during the holidays so I had to cut it short.
I think that’s why he has “half baked review” in the title
It was a sharp one haha
It does but the point of the arguement was made
@@FakeWeeb OK good I was just making sure you knew and it wasn’t just an editing mistake
The confiscation - tool thing makes sense. Judgeman has been shown to make on the fly choices. Yuji didn’t have a technique, so it confiscated his cursed energy. Sakuna had a cursed tool with a technique, so it decided to take that. It’s random chance but it makes sense
Edit: Wow, people really like arguing about this. I have to assume you’re having fun, cause if you aren’t then why?
So Sukuna just got lucky?
@@FenShen-us9tv Yeah, pretty much
@@vanjagalovic3621 Sounds like plot armor to me
@@FenShen-us9tvI think, sukuna summoned vajra after the gojo fight because he expected higuruma and yuji to jump him.
Most possibly, he took a gamble and it worked out.
@@deb5996 No one has a clue how Higuruma's domain works even Higuruma so again he just got lucky.
The weapon thing is a problem, because yorozu couldn't know about higuruma domain. It is just a coincidence even if makes sense. And sukuna knowing more about higuruma domain than higuruma doesn't make sense, only if he went to the colage and become a top tier lawyer in a month.
Wait when is it implied that Sukuna knows more about Higuruma's domain than Higuruma's? Sukuna didn't plan for the Cursed Tool to be removed.
Gege’s writing hasn’t been up to par since Gojo died. It feels sloppy compared to the previous arcs. Everything almost tied together or we had lose ends tied up.
I think the fakeweeb got bullied/overwhelmed with the twitter warriors into changing his answer or at the very least agreeing with them.
It makes no sense for higaruma to say that judgeman takes the CT. But, because he has the baby rattle, judgeman decides to take the technique from the tool. 😂like it would have made since if it took his CT and he still was able to use his tool. Showing more of what the CT can do, and how he used it in his era.
I can understand why Gege did this so he can use Sukuna to kill off some characters, and to say “well we technically didn’t know everything about Higaruma’s domain so i’ll curve ball the audience.”
@@FakeWeeb the fact that Sukuna could read Higuruma desire to die and has an understanding of CE, he might have picked up Higuruma true CT intentions like the Judge passing judgment based on Higurumas subconscious desires. I may be making this up but the Judge might have confiscated Sukuna weapon because it was granting Higurumas wish to die even if Higuruma didnt outright spell itor made it intentional
I do feel like is a bit plot convinient, I would have prefer for his slashing to be taken, just for him to use one of the many abilities we already know he has
I don’t disagree that it still feels a little bit intended, but there are still more opportunities and ways for Sukuna to use his “open”
@jckun100
wouldn't also be plot convenient for that to happen as well?
I feel like Gege might further explain it next chapter, since the confiscation taking the weapon first does actually make sense realistically.
I rlly hope so cuz most times he’s an author that does more showing than telling. Like for this case, you REALLY had to think logically why a cursed tool’s technique would be taken first despite no mention of it in the past.
There's no further explanation to be given imo.
There's no particular reason weapons get taken first before the user's cursed rechnique.
@danieloyeleye3257 Wouldn't it make more sense though if dismantle and cleave were confiscated because that's what he used in shibuya... what he's being tried for. Why is his punishment to lose an ability that he didn't even use? Also since judgeman ultimately is under higuruma's control shouldn't higuruna have some control over what ability gets taken?
@@thecia9498 you'd think higiruma would have control over judgeman but he doesn't have control over the law and judgeman is a consequence of that
@@samuraitadpole5459 higuruma said in chapter 244 whatever he thinks is possible judgeman thinks is possible meaning judgemans understanding of the law is limited to higurumas nollege so him not getting tried by curse technique removal is BS imagine in the court trial Sentencing you sentence the murder weapon instead of the actual person
I like that it took the cursed tools technique, it shows again that tricks aren't going to work and it's going to take everything to have a chance of winning
Tbh at first I didn’t like it cuz I thought it came outta nowhere, but after understanding how it makes sense, it’s kinda brilliant!
@@FakeWeebngl seeing people's reaction was hilarious especially since they act like any of the newly awakened and reincarnated sorcerers should just somehow have a cursed tool
@@samuraitadpole5459 Hakari's first opponent had a cursed tool, and he was essentially just a manga artist. Yea, it would make sense.
@@CloudyDaze that's not a cursed tool, it was a cursed technique based item like higiruma's gavel, completely different from cursed tools
@@samuraitadpole5459those are cursed tools weapons imbued with cursed techniques it's a weapon has its own ability and functions
I love that Hakari domain isn't an instant hit/kill but a busted ass buff lol
My only issue is with this outcome is the fact that judgeman picked a cursed tool, despite it not even being the weapon involved in said crime. Even with the randomized aspect of higaruma's domain, you'd expect it to prioritize the weapons related to the crime being judged rather than just any tool the culprit happens to be holding
Judgeman confiscated Yuuji's CE even if it didn't have anything to do with his pachinko shenanigans.
It's not about the tool related to the crime. It's about taking away the target's options for resistance
@@animatrix5945i think it confiscated Yuji's CE because it's the only 'weapon' that he has since Yuji is originally the only suspect.
Now however it has becomes weird. The Judgeman knows that Sukuna used other 'tool' (in this case his CT) and not the Cursed Weapon. Moreover, said weapon were obtained and used only AFTER Shibuya genocide. So wth?
@@ShatteredGlass916doesn't matter, as it's literally unrelated to Pachinko crime anyway. It already only having 2 modes of judgement is already illogical.
@@fg009letyrds8it's a ass pull and you know it
@@ShatteredGlass916 Like I said, Yuuji's CE didn't have anything to do with the crime either way. The goal of confiscation has never been stated to be related to what the criminal used for the crime.
It's all about stripping the target of their means of resisting Higgy.
Even if Yuuji had a CT, it would still have been taken even if he didn't use it for the pachinko stuff
There’s also the fact he didn’t have a cursed tool until the fight with Kashimo. They made the plan before the Gojo fight.
You can't call it bad writing or the characters being dumb since we readers didn't consider what would happen if he had a curse tool and we had more than a month to think of it.
Also they were more preoccupied with getting the death sentence, and confiscation was just a bonus. Confiscation was also never guaranteed in their strategy as the 10 Shadows was and still is a factor. Sakuna lost most shikigami, but not all of them.
Right? We have the benefit of hindsight, that's why we think we deserve to complain about this, but realistically, Higgy and the others needed a Death penalty. Without it, even with confiscation, they would still be in a terrible situation
It is bad writing cuz Gege probably himself doesn't know much about law, Higuruma's domain is based on the concept of Law is blind, and it follows all the procedures of court like : no violence, chance to defend oneself and even a chance for a bloody retrial but somehow did not include confiscation of weapon which should have been done since procedure of court also includes no firearm in the premise accept those authorized, and conveniently the only aspect that the domain over looks ( confiscation of weapon) happens to help sukuna simply cuz he has a weapon , it's as if the domain overlooked the aspect just so that sukuna could get a plot twist / armour......again
wdym we didn't consider it? we would have consider it if cursed tools would have actually interacted with domains throught the story, we don't even know why confiscation even considers the cursed tool a part of sukuna, for all it knows it could have confiscated something from yuji since it considers him and sukuna the same person but different entities.
@@neeljha8609 1. considering japan has made TONS of manga that's purely about cosplay, having reptile as pet, ballroom dancing, you couldn't convince me they didn't hire anyone that could tell them the courtroom 101.
2. Higuruma already stated within the domain, violence is prohibited and everyone has respected that rule, even Sukuna. The confiscation of weapon seems like nitpick considering it's not an actual courtroom but still a DE.
Doubly so when Sukuna didn't even defend himself against the DE, HE WANTED TO SEE THE SWORD.
3. Higuruma has been a sorcerer at most 1-1.5 months, and while he can immediately do DE, he has close to 0 knowledge about traditional jujutsu sorcery. I really doubt he has interacted with his DE enough to understand what loophole exist or the limitation of judgeman.
I'm all for criticizing Gege for many things, but yours seems to nitpick for the sake of nitpick than actual criticizing.
Wait. But if in Japan weapons aren’t allowed in court , Sukuna shouldn’t have had his cursed tool with him inside of the domain. Which means it shouldn’t have been a viable target for confiscation.
Bro the weapon has CURSE ENERGY so it gets trapped in the domain.
Lmao if that’s your argument, then all of his ct should have been confiscated immediately after they step inside higuruma’s domain, instead of having to wait for a trial
Bruh Judgeman confiscate 1 at a time. Do you even read? Imagine a trial that sentence without even a trial lol
@@ucmanhvuong4301 you can’t hurt each other in the DE so technically it does take your CT away temporarily.
@@heyoplays I’m not saying that he’s guilty I’m saying if it was a real courtroom the murderer wouldn’t have the murder weapon on their person during the trial.
And yea I read. But I wasn’t making a comment on the actual manga. I was commenting the theory as to why it worked if you base it on how court works in reality.
This doesn’t rlly change the fact that Gege used the tool for this to happen, it was knock two birds with one stone . He can bring back sukunas weapon and then lead it into this
I worry for hakari, uruame hasn’t used a Maximum technique or DE but hakari already has…
Well...I get that but his de is his main technique so of course he used it already. But like I said I do get the hikari has already used most of not all of his cards angle.
TRUST!
But why didn’t the lawyer think about this. They had time after sakuna first used the cursed tool to come up with a backup plan
Remember Yuji is a cursed object, soaked in Sukuna's CE💁🏾♂️. He lost his ability to use CE in the domain. A CT is an application that manipulates CE. So confiscating one's CT is taking away one's ability to manipulate CE. So Yuji lacking a CT lossed his ability to use CE. So naturally confiscation isn't hard CT . There's a scale: 1. Loss of CTool (an object possessing a CT). 2. Loss of CT (an application of CE). 3. Loss of CE usage💁🏾♂️.
Taking kamotoke was a fair judgement. It was our fault for assuming a binary to confiscation.
Allowing a weapon in acourt room already destroys the thing about his domain being based off an actual legal system. The weapon wouldnt be allowed in the court room to begin with. If anything, it shouldve been kicked out or temporarily confiscated before the trial if this was based on an actual court room. Also if sukuna is the target of the domain, why would the sure hit go for the tool rather than its actual target, sukuna? Ik judgeman chooses and stuff but this is convenience as clear as day.
This is anime tho so ig rules are meant to be changed to move the story in a certain way. Thats just how i feel tho.
@@blaneonthemoon2507 rules are meant to favor sukuna . It's as simple as that
the problem isn't even that, it makes sense, but kamotoke only exists in the story to be taken away by confiscation and that's it, we have quite literally never seen kamotoke be actually used in a battle against anyone, since it's always useless so it only exists to save him here
@@reyalfa18 "we have quite literally never seen kamotoke be actually used in a battle against anyone"
speaks for yourself, illiterate.
@@reyalfa18And ? You dont personally like so what that is clearly just your opinion lol.
Where the entirety of the 'weapon confiscated based on legality' falls is rarely has Higurama's domain been that restrictive to the Japanese legal system. Yuji was sentenced to death despite being 15 years old while the Japanese legal system restricts death penalties to individuals ONLY over the age of 18. It's still too convenient how everything panned out, Sukuna getting the cursed tool from Yorozu (who had 0 plot relevance), and further drives her character's purpose and CT solely to have existed JUST for this moment. As a way for Gege to justify Sukuna being able to counter Higuruma's domain, he created Yorozu. You'd also think Higuruma, with his insane intellect, would know or at least plan for a 'weapon contingency' to be apart of his Domain, ESPECIALLY given him being a lawyer. This is insane
Some people will still use the idea of "realism" to justify the convenience nonetheless.
Judging by how the plot is going, sukuna will definitely get killed by an Asspull😂
Facts.
@@ananyomukherjeeixd281 He'd have to be at this point, strapped in for Kaguya 2.0!!!!
You can say this about so many things in the manga tho lol. Why complain now?
Yeah people just make shit up to defend anything.
You are so right. Saying "Why didn't they test it for cursed tools?" is so easy in hindsight. I've seen so many people claim that it should have been obvious to Higuruma that this was a possibility and yet not a single fan predicted this outcome before the 245 leaks dropped. And we readers even knew that Sukuna had the tool while the sorcerers had no clue.
either way, i believe it wouldve been far superior writing to confiscate the technique instead so we could see the full extent of kamutoke. narratively, taking away the technique wouldve been far more interesting. not to mention, if the "confiscating weapons" first was the reason for that, wouldnt it have made more sense to confiscate it BEFORE the trial? because having a weapon during trial doesnt seem very accurate lmao
Kamutoke is only temporarily confiscated, so we will likely see it return.
In order to take away shrine they’re going to have to open another judgeman and go through another (random crime) trial.
So I really see this can either lead to a flashback, or at least something from sukuna’s heian past maybe.
Inb4, you get a random main cast flashback before sukuna off screens them.
@@grendelbacani445 well I meant a flashback of sukuna’s tbh but I expect to see one of the main cast in a couple chapters
Oh man! Boy am I enjoying the tears... What's really surprising to me is people acting like even if Sukuna's whole inventory was confiscated, he wouldn't still dunk on their whole squad
P.S Yuji's punch didn't do shit
Fr yuji and the others getting packed up next chapter 💀
they still salty after 235 and the tears are sweet!
@@ceen23No it isn’t we know sukuna enjoys toying with people. He literally just said he wants to see what higaruma’s sword can do lol stop coping.
finna come back to this lol@@BISON774
That's kinda the point in my opinion. Things have been going pretty well for Sukuna. He wouldn't be hindered if you got rid of his "space slash". It's not like he doesn't already have high physical ability and a fire technique he can't use. Him being given a purple rarity tool by Uraume's air drop and it taking the brunt of Higuruma's domain feels kind of lame.
Thats kinda makes sense, but still it could be handled better.
So lets say that Sukuna gets his CT confiscated. His CT being slashes + fuga(open). But it gets revealed that Sukunas technique is just too "voluminous", so only his slashes gets confiscated. Then when our crew thinks "Sukuna is left with just bare hands", he says "open" and uses another technique.
So we could finaly have an explaination what Sukuna's technique realy is + Sukuna gets nerfed (no more space cutting slashes) + the battle would be much more interesting, because instead of using only slashes, Sukuna will be forced to use different techniques against different opponents.
Even tho cursed tool confiscation makes sense, it still feels a little forced. For me, this was a golden opportunity to make this fight so much better, but Gege desided not to. I have faith in Gege, but for now his writing feels like non-stop Sukuna glazing
Yeah, I don't think Sukuna had planned for that either, however, aside from the cursed tool, he has the ten shadows, cleave and dismantle, potentially the fire technique and/or the hack box, that's a 1/3 or 1/4 of a chance. And I think that Sukuna could very well fight without either of those CTs, so he feels very confident declaring himself guilty from the start 🤷♂️
Definitely planned for it. That’s why he told them to hurry up he’s already see in. Remember angel said he needs to see something once to figure how it works
He doesn't have ten shadows.
Uraume is definitely interesting to me. I wonder if he/she was akin to a sort of Wakashu to Sukuna? Wouldn't want to ever see that in a flashback of course, but just curious of the possibilities based on time and culture. Great vid as always! Hope you're surviving the winter better than I am. Been hibernating for over a month. Can't take the cold, wouldn't want to be put in a situation against them ever😂
Also find it more convenient to confiscate the cursed tool. Aside from Kashimo's joke of electrical usage, electricity would be harder for most to counter, whereas learning to counter by filling space, similar to a domain or maximum/extension like Nanami did to escape Mahito imo makes more sense in terms of chances for survival. Especially if one's own body is like a domain. Could be a necessary survival condition.
Damn a wakashū really.... I have no words. I don't think i would find it even remotely funny though i would like to say that wakashū date back till 1603 to 1867 only which is during the edo era while sukuna and Uraume are from heain era which is 794 to 1185, so i doubt that wakashū really existed back then but its still possible.
@apersonwhohassomething Yeah, the main reason why I would also doubt it, is simply because Sukuna is said to mainly keep Urame around due to cooking/sorcery skill. But Kaisen as well as many other series' seem to have major implications of the darker sides of culture, that often get swept under the rug. Reminds me of post bronze age Greece, where a lot of people today try to normalize Pederasty, even though there is counter evidence to explain that it was seen as a major cultural issue even in those times to prey on youth. Saw a piece on that and how due to our western education, it almost has to be seen as normal rather than the horrible social construct that it really was/is to this day tbh. It's actually what I'm working on as a thesis for modern (post bronze) religion and cult practice that seems to have a very suss way of turning youth into idols, and sexualizing them. Plus it brings a lot of questions to the light about how we have such odd abilities that don't seem like they belong to Japan in JJK. A lot of my colleagues always have fun discussing revelations on Angel and more characters in the series' past that are super out of place. I always draw extreme caution now when reading chapters and prefer to get the green light from reviewers that it's safe to even look at before reading. Still haven't actually read this one yet, and always prefer the comments or video makers to let me know if it's too graphic in the sense of cannibalism or other nasty business like that. Considered outright skipping this fight if we even saw the info Judgeman would provide... getting older and having new revelations and perspectives on some of these series' hurts my soul sometimes when I read them, but I'm trying since JJK actually does a surprisingly good job in adhering to tradition... would like a little bit more, but when compared to many other attempts, this series is special, to say the least!
The crew didn't know Sakuna got his cursed tool back
My guess is like the mention of Yuta is because he's picked up or sensed that he's nearby. He's saying that because he kept his word of killing kenjaku and returning
I really think that the reason the cursed tool was confiscated, was due to sukuna being on such a higher tier in the understanding of cursed energy, it wouldnt be too far fetched that the tool was the most confiscation could handle, so it was the target of the technique.
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Hope your channel grows to 1M. You have a great voice for anime review.
The confiscation of CT’s Tool Cursed Technique makes sense. The domain prioritize targeting that, may have been influenced by the fact that; the ones who bring cursed tool to battle would likely be a Sorcerer without cursed technique to begin with, or those who has a weak CT that they’d rely on Cursed Tool, so in a sense the domain always assume that a “Toji” or a “Maki” would be sentenced whenever some Sorcerer is within that said domain with a Cursed Tool, it totally eliminates the possibility that someone as strong as Sukuna would be carrying such item to assist him in battle-
So yeah, it’s not Higuruma’s fault and he himself is literally new to the whole sorcery thing, so he definitely had not been aware
@7:05 Gege is so freaking lucky that he has a fan base that tries to make sense out of his bs lmao. We can assume it's based off of modern Japanese law but its uniqueness as a trial system separates it from that Japanese judicial system because of the crimes that judgment could put forward or put to the side as a lesser priority. I truly do believe it was really convenient for Sukuna in advance.
What my thoughts are on this curse tool confiscation thing is that. Sukuna thought of using the curse tool if his innate ability was taken away that’s why he had the curse tool with him but it turned out the opposite way which somehow gave sukuna the advantage. And I think the tool was confiscated because he was about to use it
What I think most people fail to realize is that we never get an in depth description of everyone’s power and limitations. Gojos domain when he used it against Jogo for example, from the anime you couldn’t tell if it was because of the area that close to Gojo wasn’t affected, if yuji wasn’t affected because Gojo could pick, or if it’s because he was being touched. Didn’t find out til the sukuna fight.
We don’t fully understand how Yutas power work either.
Up until gojo we didn’t know if the shrine was the center of sukunas domain or not.
I feel like just like we don’t know everything the characters don’t either. Sometimes they learn as they go.
Sukuna had his technique for 1000 years and didn’t know he could cut through the world itself…but we surprised the higuruma who’s barely been a sorcerer for a month didn’t know about it’s affect in curse tools?
We are talking about how the crew didn't talk about possibiltu of sukuna using the Cusrse Tool but we are forgrting forgetting how Yuji and Angel didn't tell GOJO about Sukuna's Domain being barrierless
So basically when Higaruma activated his DE and Judgeman took away Sakuna's cursed tool all it simply was just a temporary confiscation until Judgeman passed the death penalty sentence and a permanent confiscation of his cursed tool.
I believe it's the equivalent of here in the US where the judge gives a summary judgement because there is more than enough evidence to convict however where the fault lies with Higaruma just like with any other prosecutor of the law in that its about the conviction and not the actual execution (pun intended) of justice. Instead of trying to go for the optimal outcome from a prosecutorial stand point Higaruma was too focused on trying to get the death penalty sentence passed and acquire the executioner's sword and thought the judge would take away Sakuna's cursed techniques but whether through accident, bad story writing or Sakuna's foresight took away only Sakuna's tools while still leaving him with MS and ten shadows.
In summary Higaruma messed up in miscalculating how arrogant and confident Sakuna would be during the trial because he thought Sakuna would try and defend himself but instead Sakuna straight up said "yeah I did all that ish. The only reason why I'm entertaining this is because I wanted to see that fancy sword of yours. Oh btw the judge only took my weapon away and not these hands and the magic I'm about to slap you around with. Now what are you going do?". Legally this outcome seems shotty but then again this is Sakuna who can and will tell any judge to go eff themselves before stomping them and any enforcer of the law out and from a story perspective well we can't nerf Sakuna too much before Itadori gets his hands on him.
Sukhna got the strongest plot armor
It would actually be bland if he actually got his ct taken away, Gege knows how to write, let him cook
I don't get why people are calling this plot armour. Like sukuna won't mop the floor with them with his CE alone. Gege has something planned, let him cook
Could've taken his cleave/dismantle and left him be forced into using the black box so we could've gotten some insight on that finally but nah
@@NasiruMubarak-pp9sc It absolutely is, Everyone including the main cast expected Sukuna to lose his CT and be shaken enough so they could stand a chance but Gege literally pulls this bullshit out of his arse and says "confiscation prioritizes cursed tools".
*her
I love jjk, but gege isn't a good writer. I've been reading jjk since it dropped, so this isn't hate spewing
9:12, this argument makes no sense, Sukuna didn’t have a cursed tool in the month timeskip. The ice person whose name I can’t spell legit air dropped Sukuna the Kametoke after the battle with Gojo. After that, Kashimo got cut to ribbons and Yuji and Higuruma initiated the jjk jumping. They had no time to think of the interaction.
If you are talking about the Modern Law, then it's not possible for you to have a weapon in the first place when you enter the court.
If we are speaking in those terms then the domain should have "auto dropped" Sukuna's cursed tool outside the domain itself.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I am not into politics.
You are correct. His explanation makes no sense. And this wouldn't fall under politics. Just the Japanese judicial system.
the only person with a cursed tool with a cursed texhnique is maki,but she doesn’t have a cursed technique or cursed energy,higuruma may have tested it on her but just assumed it took the cursed tool as a substitute for the ct or ce
If we are gonna use modern law as the rules in the domain then wouldn't they confiscate it before the trial 🤷♂️
Yes.
My guess is since he admitted his guilt, it works similarly to taking a plea deal. It’s normal to give a lower sentencing if they don’t have to go thru the process of a criminal trial where there’s a chance they can dodge litigation.
Ooh, that makes sense. Couple that with his theory of prohibition of weapons in a court room + basically RNG when it comes to confiscation could probably explain why the Kamutoke was seized first. I have a feeling that they will explain this revelation in the upcoming chapters.
yeah i mean for me its pretty simple, you can't plan for something when you dont even know the possibility exists. Nobody from jujutsu high saw him recieve the tool after his fight with yorozu and he didn't use it until after they had already started moving in to execute the plan so the first time any of them would have seen it is right after the kashimo fight and at that point its simply too late to do anything about it if they even notice him holding it in the extremely brief window before higuruma opened his domain
Well time to change your opinion again.
Firstly even if the legal system first confiscates the criminals weapon. You gotta understand that Kamutoke wasn't confiscated, the CT ambued to it was. Also if that was the rule then Kamutoke wouldn't even be inside the court room.
Secondly, Why would judgeman confiscate the curse technique of the tool which had absolutely nothing to do with sukunas crime in trial . Wouldn't it literally make more sense that the Technique USED To commit the crime would be confiscated First. Thats like saying that The water gun the criminal had on hand during the trial is confiscated over then AK47 used to commit the crime.
Thirdly, it makes literally no sense that the weilder of the domain itself didn't know of such a condition or had never experienced it. Gojo has never experienced infinite void so how does he know that it feeds you infinite information? Also higuruma had like 100 points and you are telling me there wasn't a single person who used a curse tool? Playful cloud is the only tool without a CT. Also you have the skip part. They should have already underwent bunch of scenarios about how it went.
I honestly think todo even with one hand would have been massive help as support in this fight. He could 100% steal kamutoke from sukuna since he could just switch it out of his hand and his ability in general would just be very useful as support. He could just stay at a distance with ui ui and use his hand to clap. Which yuta could have healed his hand anyway...
His hand will never be healed I love Todo but wtf is so hard for you guys to understand, Mahito didn’t just destroy his physical hand he destroyed the hand in his soul as well, meaning anybody trying to repair it would just turn it into a shrapnel grenade over and over forever.
Canonically RCT cannot heal damage from Idle Transfiguration. Even Sukuna cannot reverse damage to the soul from Mahito.
@@snowleopard8986Exactly, Sukuna said he won’t heal Junpei when it’s later revealed he was kind of covereing his butt because it wasn’t just a matter of he won’t heal Junpei, but also because he couldn’t actually heal Junpei.
@@snowleopard8986 point still stands about stealing kamutoke. He can just switch it with a rock and gtfo with someone like Mei's brother.
2:20 not necessarily since part of the reason Gojo survived is not just because of his RCT but also because of his durability and simple domain. Hakari has not yet shown the ability to use simple domain and even if he can it is unlikely that his barrier mastery is as good as Gojos. So there is a good chance that his simple domain and domain expansion will crumble under Sukunas domain.
Shouldn't Angel have known that Sukuna may get a curse tool though and bring that up? Idk man, I mean it makes sense but it's still plot induced weirdness. Not that it matters, technique or no technique Sukuna was dunking on all of them with raw strength alone LOL
Why would kashimo know that?
They both lived different era I think... So, Kashimo wouldn't know.
They have the rules downloaded into their brains when the domain first opens so Sukuna knew from the first time when Yugi was on trial. The way the manga states the rule after the fact is like a reminder that this rule was explained. Hence Sukuna and Higuruma knew something the others didn't. Yuji would have been told the rule too but we know how his mind works :S
If you don’t like the “no weapons in court” idea, here’s another angel: cursed tools are more refined than innate techniques. Cursed tools don’t age, don’t run out of energy, their technique doesn’t burn out. Even if Shrine is more dangerous, infinite Lightning bolts is more refined because It’s imbued in an object
The only problem with "the whole crew is sort of forgetting about the possibility of Sukuna having a weapon" is the fact that they literally had angel with them
A character who was present in the same golden era as and who saw Sukuna in action in his glory .
This means his usage of both his weapons , Angel saw first hand already. Thinking about it
Angel would be the one person who could have told the heroes everything about Sukuna's abilities.
Including the infamous "open"
Sukuna himself stated in his fight with Jogo that a cursed spirit probably wouldn't know his abilities, this probably includes modern sorcerers as well
But people from the same era as him ? They would know the most about Sukuna abilities.
It still gives me the ick .. how none of them considered the fact Sukuna had an open domain and they were really surprised about it when they saw Gojo and Sukuna clash
Ugh another reason why Hana and Angel are a huge L
Angel should have been upfront with all of Sukunas abilities and relayed it to them and Gojo before his fight. Like the fact that Sukuna can learn something first time seeing it was said during that one month skip, no i was said while during the fight to the people who needed that information the least compared to Gojo.
Gege can you kill them please, what purpose have they served seriously
Do you imply that someone can enter a court room with a visible weapon on their hands freely ? Knowing that Higuruma stopped Sukuna from using said weapon against Yuuji before the trail
Only special grade cursed tools have cursed techniques in them. The rest only have cursed energy. And the reason that the cursed tool was taken instead of one of sukunas techniques is because the cursed tool had a cursed technique embued in it. This plan was a gamble and only took into account just ten shadows and shrine. But because sukuna came in possession of the kamutoke during the fight, it threw their plan off. Just real unfortunate that he was lucky lol
a thing to note is also that now with the tool gone every attack of sukuna uses up cursed energy and after gojo he doesnt have the usual basicly unlimited amount
It makes sense either way cuz it’s a curse tool, with a curse technique, in his possession, so even without the law about confiscating weapons first, there’s still a 50/50 shot of judgeman taking either the curse tool or shrine. However, the curse tool being introduced to do literally nothing except protect him from confiscation is bad plot armor
The logic of a weapon bein confiscated when your a criminal is why everything is taken from you and you can’t attack inside the domain, so logically it still makes no sense that it took the weapon and not his CT
Interesting but you’d think that just being in the domain would remove sukunas weapons since he has a rule for no violence and that ya know weapons aren’t allowed in courts in the first place. This feels like gege gave sukuna this tool solely as an out for this very particular situation. As the tool has served no other real purpose for sukuna other then then this.
Just go back to his first fight with yuji when yuji tried to attack higoroma at that moment the domain stopped him because he was about to do violence that mean having a cursed weapon in there is the same the domain won't do anything until sukuna uses it and he didn't
I have no idea how people are saying kamutoke is useless and we haven't even seen it's end use. There could be some nonsense where it fuses with the trident later or he absorbs it or whatever. I think we're just spoiled as readers and have no patience for delayed gratification.
My guy love this review what’s your prediction for the hakari uruame clash?
See the thing is that in the crew, Maki is also present so she should have thought what would happen if she decided to willingly enter the domain and since she is a cursed tool user she should have thought what would be confiscated if she doesn't have any cursed technique or even cursed energy.
I have a theory of why the cursed tool was confiscated. I’m not completely sure how valid this is but it makes sense to me. We already know that Sukuna has the ability to use multiple techniques, or at least his ability is able to replicate or store multiple techniques. But what if we are looking at it the wrong way. We know yuji wasn’t born with a technique, yet we see in the latest chapters that he is now able to use one or multiple with the new arms and his soul swapping ability teased in the earlier chapters. So what if sukunas techniques aren’t “techniques” in the traditional sense that we know of throughout the story. What if confiscation works only on techniques etched into the body, and not on techniques acquired through other means. We know yuji was supposed to be the perfected vessel for sukuna, so what if he is actually similar to sukuna or related in some way not just by blood, but also his abilities. If Yuji is able to acquire cursed techniques without being born with them in the first place, wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume sukuna can too? This is purely speculation, but perhaps Sukuna (just like yuji) wasn’t born with an inate technique, like every other sorcerer in the series, there fore, there was no “inate” cursed technique to be confiscated by judgement, instead he has other peoples techniques he’s acquired throughout the Hiene Era which don’t technically count as his own, so perhaps this is our first tease as to what sukunas real abilities are. Because when Yuji was in Higurumas domain the first time, he was charged with confiscation as well, but if the ability to acquire new cursed techniques was an actual “Inate technique” that is what would have been confiscated instead of his cursed energy. So maybe Judgement has an order of operations it goes by, maybe technique first, then any weapons held by the opponent, then cursed energy. And since sukuna has no “inate technique” but he was holding a weapon, the weapon was taken rather than his cursed energy. I know this is a reach however we’ve all read this series, and at this point we should all know there is meaning In everything gege does. Gege doesn’t do ass pulls, his story telling is fantastic and he never does something just because it will help the villains or hero’s of the story win a fight. Everything in the story can and will be explained at some point so I feel like this is very important to solving the mystery of what sukunas true abilities are. Just an idea, I think the reasons outlined in the video are just as valid if not more so. I’ve just always wondered why sukunas has always been so cryptic whenever he talks about his abilities, and he’s the only sorcerer in the series we’ve ever seen actually change an entire aspect of their “techniques” such as him changing the target of cleave and dismantle to space rather than the object he’s aiming for. So I don’t think its out of the question for sukunas abilities to be much more complex then we are used to.
Even if they had known about the cursed tool and that it would be confiscated, do we really think they would have been able to take the cursed tool away from Sukuna? Like, this might have been the only possible outcome either way.
Separately, I’m curious if the squad will actually end up using Yuruzu’s gift *against* Sukuna now that it is confiscated.
That depends If they can use confiscate it weapons or heck where do the confiscated weapons go
You're also right because even if they knew in hindsight about the curse tool It would be impossible to take it away from him in the first place
Plus The lightning that comes off of the weapon seemed strong anyway able to semi damage someone who's very very resistant to lightning
No matter how it goes their always going to end up being in sukunas mercy
@@noriikari8660 thanks. the salty fans somehow think our heroes are going to win against shrineless Sukuna simply because they said so?? lmao they forgot 'Nah, I'd win'
@@zizu-lakaka Exactly Like you mean to tell me that we expect the heroes to win against someone who's straight up body like one of the top fives like it's nothing who is in a transformation that ups his stats yeah I just don't see it I swear you're going to have to give him the Madara treatment
Or give yuji six paths Naruto or Ichigo final getsuga from bleach treatment Because I just don't see it plus after him they have to fight kenjaku (I probably butchered his name) Like this story really made every single hero the underdog in these scenarios and I like it My biggest fear is just that I wanted to end in a satisfying way that doesn't feel rushed or just flat out bad
I still feel like the point about tools is already restricted under the rule of non violence so using that logic it doesn't make sense because in the domain sukuna can't use it anyways so that is already dealt with, so in court that doesn't matter because it won't be used....so then after the verdict sukuna's CE should have been taken because that's literally the top priority, also the verdict should be handed to the accused if wer'e talking about the law here. in real life the verdict doesn't apply to weapons or anything. if it was about the tool there wouldn't have been evidence provided or a hearing done
im surprised people are complaining abt this outcome. Obviously it feels like an ass pull, but if higaruma were to take his ct away, I dont think we'd see the full story behind "fuga" and the rest of his ct unless higaruma dies later on.
I think ppl underestimate how potent of a cursed tool kamutoke is as well, I mean it would’ve straight up one tapped kashimo without his immunity. And that teleport ability is just insane, I really wonder what the CT of the weapon is because it seems to be more than simple electricity manipulation.
It makes sense because when Yuji got confiscation without a CT it took his Cursed energy instead of a technique, this is basically the opposite of that
The issue is that it took his CE because he had no CT at the time. The CE was to compensate for the lack of CT. However, this time apparently the cursed technique is apparently a compensation for a cursed tool?
Moreover, Yuji was severly handicapped when fighting Higurama due to no CE enhancing his skills. Sukuna has lost nothing
Wait hegaruna fought a bunch of people ,your telling me didnt figure out how his shikigami works.
Honestly Higaruma plan was solid he just didn’t expect they were going to take Sukuna curse tool. Either way this is bad because Sukuna can still use his curse technique they need to make a plan to counter his slashes
Issue is: the weapon should have been already removed - not removed as apart of the sentencing.
Hakari is Gege Kenpachi 😂😂 no matter how much damage he takes he keeps on fighting & he is completely different from the other students of jujutsu high
At first i hated the curse tool confiscation and thought it was bad writing but It makes sense in that they trusted a brand new sorceror that doesn't entirely understand his domain and the effects. Higurama is incredible but he just hasn't had enough experience to take on sakuna so it makes sense.
"Hey man, I would rather be guilty of being a murderer than a fraud" - Sukuna, probably
The issue is that confiscation is the equivalent to prison (taking liberty away). Confiscating cursed tools should be a sure hit that happens regardless of the trial (nobody keeps their guns in a trial lol)
I wonder if Maki is going to make an entrance soon.
What about the Angel then? Did she forget that Sukuna used weapons? Why confiscate the tool that wasn't the crime tool? It makes no sense to assume, that they didn't count on technique confiscation and decided to jump in, when he can just one shot them
I’m not sure if he would necessarily be able to survive Sakuna slicing technique because it isn’t stated that sakuna can survive his own curse technique
Wouldn't Angle have known that Sakuna used cursed tools?
Every Cursed Technique has its weakness. Plus Higuruma was a Sorcerer for like 1 month trying shit with his Domain Expansion. Domains are the greatest feat in JJK, Higugura is probably just not skilled enough to conrol anything in his domain. If he was stronger or more experienced he might be able to choose the crime and the Technique that gets confiscated. Also Sukuna is a fking genius and knew about the Domain so he probably knew this was gonna happen.
It was said that Judge-Man has all the evidence from Cameras and stuff, so he can't magically know everything.
So there is the possibility that JudgeMan doesnt know Sukunas Cursed Technique, It might not be Cleave or Dismantle but the "Open" and shrine stuff. Maybe there is no Evidence ANYWHERE in the world that reveals Sukunas Cursed Technique.
I kinda of felt like him having the tool and it’s CT being confiscated instead made plenty of sense. At this point in the story it’s clear that Sukuna knows and understands cursed energy better than anyone, so while he might not have been certain, I don’t think it would be too far-fetched to believe he thought that judgeman would confiscate the tool rather than his CT. Considering he watched Yuji fight Higuruma before, and he knew that he would eventually take over Megumi, I find it harder to believe Sukuna wouldn’t have thought of some way to counteract Higuruma’s domain. As far as how he received the tool, I feel like that was the plot showing how he ended up with the tool. Either way, it would not have been surprising seeing him with ANY cursed tool as a means to attempt to counteract Higuruma’s domain. I don’t believe he knew for certain it would work, but I do believe it was Sukuna’s gamble to see if it would
that is exactly what i was talking about in the last vdo of yours as well
It doesn't help that the fact a good number of the fanbase doesn't even pay attention to the details and because of that plot twist will become to them asspull and for example to this day i see people say todo doesn't need to clap to activate his CT or why doesn't yuta just heal todos hand so he can get his CT back
I disagree I don’t this is the reason his curse technique wasn’t taken and I don’t think it’s random. I think Judgeman looks at Jujutsu Sorcerers in layers with the first layer being their curse energy, the second layer being their curse technique, and the third layer being any curse item/tools they possess and confiscates things from top to bottom. This makes sense if you look at what Judgeman took from Yuji the first time he got hit with the Domain and how Judgeman didn’t take anything the second time Yuji got hit with the domain. This makes even more sense when you realize Yuji is the first person without a curse technique that Higuruma fought and Sukuna is most likely the first person with curse tool that higuruma fought.
This might be far-fetched, but is Sukuna just a character like Ging from HxH? I mean Ging just has talent for seeing and replicating Nen abilities so would Confiscation lead to not as much as a nerf?? Curse Energy & Techniques might function differently so feel free to correct me
Even Yuji with no cursed technique had his cursed energy confiscated in its place. Higuruma himself was surprised by this because it was new information he had not yet previously encountered. It makes complete sense that the confiscation would prioritize different things as its been shown before.
I get that people think a genius like Higuruma should have thought of the possibility, but its a weak argument. The dude isnt omniscient.
About police taking suspect's weapon. They do it because gun in suspect hands is the bigger threat than just the suspect, once they take it, it's usually easy to pin down suspect. It's pretty clear that in Sukuna's case HE is the real threat not his tool. Imagine you are police and terrorist has a rocket launcher and a knife, what would you prioritize taking away from them?
Sukuna finna be punching air after hakari lands his 18th jackpot during malevolent shrine
I guess i didn't mind it cause I wasn't expecting their plan to fully work
My interpretation was it’s easier to take the technique of a curse tool than a human that’s why the curse tool’s technique was taken.
I think you misunderstood something about Uraume's statement. She said that Hakari's regeneration powers are better than Satoru's or Sukuna's, but you explained that it works in a way where Hakari can keep regenerating faster than Sukuna is dealing damage to him. Simply not true, a better example would be that if any of those three keep continually getting damaged, Hakari would be in the best state by the end because his regeneration is better, not that he can outsustain Sukuna's or Gojo's cursed techniques.
Gojo was literally keeping up with sakuna's shrine with his regen tho, so if hakari's is better, then he outdoes the shrine.
My Prediction: Uraume will die due to hakari and maybe someone else helping him, Sukuna gets pissed (possible flashback for him and uraume) and attacks Hakari, Hakari hits Jackpot and tanks thousands of slashes from Malevelent Shrine, Sukuna pulls out the allmighty "Open" and burns him to a crisp. Leading into the reveal of Sukunas Cursed Technique.
The biggest problem is just that gege should of had higuruma have one more fight before this to establish his domain and its rules better
Another thing is they didnt even know he had the cursed tool until it was too late. Even than, Sukuna knows that it isnt permanent and he's realistically just got to either wait out until he got his technique back, or kill Higuruma and get it back immediately. On top of that the cursed tool is also extremely strong so no mstter what. They were screwed, one way or another
I mean, if judge man picks a crime at random who’s to say he doesn’t pick the cursed technique at random.