F1 fans are embarrassing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2023
- Max Verstappen was met with boos from F1 fans after his victory at the Miami Grand Prix, but this isn't the first time and it won't be the last. We have seen F1 fans boo drivers many times before, but what happens when the line is crossed and fans start to yell abuse at drivers, mechanics and other F1 fans? Enjoy!
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I'm not a Verstappen fan, but it now feels incredibly satisfying that Max went on to win infront of those booers
the irony will hopefully repeat itself in Mexico City
@@NeonColored Of course it will. Maybe he‘ll even win the championship infront of those delusional Perez fans. Max owns the Mexico City track
I'm not really a Max fan either. But I think it's great that he doesn't care about all this stuff. The ironic thing is that the people who do this crap won't learn anything, or they'll convince themselves that they're still subconsciously affecting Max with their behavior.
Yup. It’s up there with Lewis winning at Monza. And for that matter, Max winning there too.
Mostly Checo fans, and some Lewis fans..
I love the fact the red bull mechanics are laughing they must love it low-key 😂
"That's a u problem mates, we'll keep playing Uno on the pits"
although it wasn't Red Bull playing Uno when it was raining in Japan yesteryear but you get it
They’re used to it with seb
I mean why wouldn't you, imagine being so good that people litteraly hate you
@@issammelzi "Cheers. Thanks for the compliment. Stay mad, and see you next weekend."
they are absolute chads, remember when it was getting real intense with Lewis, they had some fun with that too
I’m not really a “driver fan” but I love Verstappen’s attitude. No bs no drama just focused on winning 💯 champion mentality 1️⃣🔥
his attitude is just the Dutch culture and that is not understood and accepted by many English speakers.
@@tinustussengas-zu9gx And we all know the English Media and Tabbloids.
Yeah it's the press and some fans hate his attitude and they can't just take it. Hence the bias
@@tinustussengas-zu9gx by British toxic fans
He's brutally honest which is good, some might argue, but on the other hand, adding some diplomacy would make his attitude better, some might argue.
I dont care whatever anyone says, boring or not, this version of max is badass
It is it really is 🔥🔥🔥
He has grown into a Godzilla and every single circuit is his Tokyo!!
He’s only a monster in the fastest car He needs the best car to win championships put him in the 3 rd best car he wins no championships😂
@@Goated2002 lewis fan i assume
@@Goated2002 There is this driver, from brittain who has been quite succesfull who seems to not be able to win with the 2nd best car or worse... familiar ey. Also F1 is just as much an engineer competition als a drivers competition.
2021 : max pls win
2023 : max stop pls
wtf do these guys want ffs?
"the duality of man"
It's human nature to always root for the underdog.
Yup. This is why people are so stupid.
F1 fans will never be happy
competitive season, thats what we want, I am so tired of just 1 driver winning, its not about Max winning, its about him winning everytime, what is the point of watching f1 if I know the result 1 month in advance. I wouldnt mind just redbull winning either, as long as season isnt over in may like it is this year , but still f1 fans are just crybabies on both sides, wait until you guys see football fans when they have home advantage, f1 fans would probably collapse in anger if they heard just one song made against max
It’s being doing the runs for awhile. Tyson said social media made everyone comfortable disrespecting people and not getting punched in the mouth.
So true
Like
Because before social media, nobody booed or heckled. Lol
@@eduardosantana8300 not as much as we see it nowadays
@@Juanguar how did you measure that?
I attended Silverstone 2022 and sat in a grand stand full of Lewis fans. They were treating Max the exact same way, and what surprised me most was it was mostly middle-aged men who were booing and chanting horrid things at him. Most of the younger fans were very respectful. I believe the problem is that people seperate themselves from sportsmen because they feel untouchable. "Max is never going to see it because he's a multimillionaire living in Monaco and I'm just a random guy" mentality. I think one example being Bradley Philpot's Max Verstappen Discord incident shows that these guys genuinely do see the hate and on some level it will always impact them - be it in any way at all.
max verstappen discord incident? ive never heard of this until now huh
Yo, shut up
I Hope Max will win in Silverstone this year and give those Brits some headache in the evening
@@BlueCollar80 Yeah but the dutch fans wasted no time to boo Lewis either, Ferrari fans did the same in Monza when it came to Max. So you can't hope one driver wins because he got booed when this is common in many F1 fanbases. And let me not get started on Alonso fans.
@@sheabryantmusic Oh just stop it. I was at Zandvoort in 2021 no less after the Silverstone incident and I’ve never seen a more respectful crowd.
You’re ‘yeah but’ is embarrassing. It’s Whataboutism and you can take that and shove it back up where it came from.
As a long time Verstappen and Red Bull fan, I echo Max's sentiments exactly. The important thing is that he's standing on the top step of the podium, and they can go home and have a nice evening. Verbal abuse because you don't like the guy for no other reason than he's beating your guy is gross and immature. But the Rb mechanics handled it superbly, and Max let the driving do the talking.
It isn't just because he's beating his teammate but also because they simply hate him for being good regardless of where his teammates stands which is even more pathetic
Redbull had years worth of experience with this when seb was dominating. In 2013 they did it for more than half a season at almost every race. He replied with most consecutive wins ever and also in a single season. This year I am eagerly waiting and excited for Max's reply
If you can't see why max and redbull get booed then you are not seeing 80% of the picture
@@F.F144 it was the checo fans in miami. that booing. beter that red bull fired checo . than he out f1 . and his fans stay home.
Well said...I'm a huge fan of Lewis Hamilton and will support him throughout his career, yet I hugely respect Max Verstappen and what he's achieved. I see no need to belittle him or put him down, sad that some fans resort to insults
Imagine paying thousands of dollars for a ticket, see your favorite driver get destroyed, throw a fit like a 9 yr old, and post it on social media cuz you think it’s funny 💀💀💀
I, forever condemn this type of behavior. Period
why not before?
@@SmolMarsh He never said he started condemning it right now; just that he [generally] condemns it.
Many Checo fans, so booing came..
It’s just fans being fans. Lacan, Durkheim, Jung and I’m certain that many others also have written on this subject. Jung for example, says this is the equivalent to a “safe space” for people’s “shadow self” to come out in an appropriate moment. I won’t bore you with the details about psychology and sociology but, at least as far back as the ancient Greeks, do we have philosophers explaining the importance of the “spectacle” to manage the grievances and dark desires of the general public.
Condemning this type of behavior, is nothing but a pointless exercise of virtue signaling. It’s a normal behavior, and according to most sociologists and behavior psychologists, it’s one of the best and safest ways for people to let out built in aggression. Cheers!
I forever support you on this notion.
The worst part for me is that the fans in Miami has got no idea about formula 1 and only went to the Grand Prix for clout and then they just say disrespectful stuff thinking they are allowed to do whatever they want. I think Max dealt with the situation very maturely and it was very satisfying seeing Max win infront of the booers.
Exactly! Do half of them even truly know what the fuck is going on?
@@footvshands no, but that has been a problem around the world in recent years.
@@footvshands yes I have been watching F1 with my dad since I was little. You would be surprised how big sports outside the USA are in Miami. Now, we have had a big influx of people from New York and California recently so I wouldn’t generalize all Miami fans and most people were from out of town. Although it’s nice having a race here, their original idea for the track was much better, the event is just a shit show and I wouldn’t mind if was removed. But yes European sports plays a big role in Miami. Believe it or not.
I don't think its fair to say its just a Miami or US thing, there are still plenty of people here that love good racing as well as unsavory people abroad. But the problem with the Miami GP itself is it wants to exist more as a weekend getaway with a car race at the end instead of a proper GP weekend. Because of Nascar and the overall history of racing in the states, the sport definitely has more of a blue collar reputation that F1 does not want to cater to. The average fans at a stock car or indy race are super passionate about the sport in my experience but we have been completely priced out of the Miami GP so it attracts a lot of more wealthy types who tend to be casual fans or just there for clout as you said. Arrogant frat boy types and social media influencers.
These american f1 fans watch races for the glamour and fame but not to enjoy good racing. I really wonder why F1 wants to go there.
Go to places where they really care about the races, not to the moneyland
Verstappen was on a mission, he gave Checo a reality check and the "fans" didn't like it.
they did this with Seb when he was dominating too, it's just history repeating itself, just far worse because of the more toxic people the sport has attracted. Maybe you should put "fans" in the title between quotation marks because those aren't actual fans that respect the sport for what it is
I completely agree, these people aren't actual fans of the sport. In fact, they're a disgrace to the sport and I can't imagine how bad your life must be to buy an expensive ticket, just to verbally attack or use inappropriate gestures at someone who doesn't affect your life in any way.
You are Overreacting big time. Either to ignorance of human behavior, sociology and psychology. Or just practicing your daily dose of virtue signaling.
Yeah but countless other winners were never "boo'd for winning" because they won with grace. Max is a dick about it. Thats why theyre booing.
I agree, but technically they're still fans, they're fully invested literally.
It's just their lacking intellect and/or social skills that's manifesting here.
I could argue that any person that is _this_ devoted to a cause, has some issues.
I'm a fan of science, but i wouldn't be throwing fits or parties over new discoveries or debunks, like some people would.
@@Kongren94 Sport is life to them, so in a way, it's Max that has affected their lives to begin with.
I'm not defending 'hoolifans', but they just live very different lives.
Fans should be mad at their team for being slow, not for redbull being fast
To them, that's looking at the glass half empty.
The fans that booed Max and pointed fingers at Max/ the mechanics were actually Perez fans. You can clearly see one of them wearing a Perez hat
@@Reaz399 guys it doesn't matter. These fans were Perez fans, so what? It doesn't matter. If it was a Leclerc or an Hamilton fan, nothing will change
@@emanuelecaselli677t does matter, Mexico is relatively new on having a Successful F1 driver, a lot of the new Mexican fans come from watching soccer, which is a sport that pretty much has the purpose to keep the uneducated people sedated and politically "under control".
Yep, as boring as one team and/or driver dominating is, it is not their fault to be too good, but their competitors fault to be too bad.
Unfortunately this type of behaviour by ”fans” has always existed. Alain Prost was also a victim of abuse and death threats by Ayrton’s ”fans”.
”I’ve had two cars burned in front of me and messages on my answer machine which said things like ‘we’re going to kill you’. I was really afraid at one stage, it really went over the top.”
People forget that max is human and has feelings. This kind of behaviour is embarassing and inapproriate
when his Dutch fans booed lewis, he didn't exactly condemn it.
@@ddha0000 he did. Also when they burned merc stuff. But Max just doesn't care if he gets booed.
@@ddha0000 just don't say anything if you don't know what you're talking about...
@@ddha0000 When Lewis arrived at Zandvoort in 2021, shortly after the 'heated Silverstone edition of that year' he was respectfully cheered by the Dutch crowd.
@@ddha0000 He most certainly did.
a little bit cringey? Mate thats an understatement. Shouldnt even be calling these people fans tbh
When you’re comparing drivers to Osama Bin Laden (like they are doing with Russell) that crosses a line.
@@gameofender4463 holy crap, are they really lmao
@@Maccar. yes.
Mate one sort of abuse is not worse than another, if it's Gr being called Bin Laden or Max getting the bird it has to be rooted out to the core period.
The RedBull mechanics laughing at those guys is just awesome
The only right response to that clownery
Exactly
Tiktokers being definition of cringe. F1 fans these days ruin watching the experience.
Bunch of F1 mechanics, undoubtedly one of the coolest and obviously highest paying job in the world laughing at bunch of toxic sore losers who just came out from their mom's basement.
@@just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you ^^^^^💯💯💯💯💯
What gets me is these people who were booing Max and the Red Bull team would've been the first in line to condemn the alleged actions of Verstappen fans last year in Austria against a few Mercedes fans, which was found out to be a hoax. Imagine paying that much for a ticket and using it just to "tell" Verstappen to fuck off.
I didn't know that. Could you please explain what really happened?
@@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 Last year at Austria two Mercedes fans claimed they were harassed by Red Bull (mainly Verstappen) fans in the stands during the Friday events. They were given free special Access to Mercedes hospitality and much of that stuff, only to admit the next week that what they claimed was untrue on social media because people found the holes in their story.
@@mistertheking I remember seeing that story was broadcast all over the place at the time but I didn't know it was faked. Thanks for letting me know.
These kinds of people are everywhere nowadays they claim they want respect and condem "abuse" yet they turn a blind eye of abuse that they suits their beleifs.
They laugh at max
Max laughs at their bank accounts😂😂
Haha gold 😂
I thought the same thing 🤣
As an American, it’s such a shame for “fair weather” fans, who unfortunately found their way to Grand Stands Sunday
Grow up
This has been building since Trump and the Alamo! 🤣🤣
Thats what Happens when the proper Fans get priced Out.
Americans don’t no what love the opponent is anymore they can only hate it is so sad but Trump makes Americans more disgusting
Funny thing is whenever Lewis got boo'd F1 instantly made WeStandAsOne posts condoning the boos along with other teams. When this happens to others it is basically ignored by F1 completely.
Because Hamilton pushes the narrative that the only reason he gets boo'd is because he's the only black driver in the sport. F1 just goes along with the easier narrative to push
Yeah because "racism"
I mean the Tifosi in Monza last season literally threw stuff at Max‘s car on the inlap after the race. Nobody was talking about it. Imagine that happened to Hamilton. The outrage would‘ve been insane
IIRC the We Stand as one was because of the 2020 fallout of the world climate
Then the messages sent by all teams was the racial abuse after Silverstone 2021 (which Christian Horner didn't help with his post crash comments insinuating it was deliberately done causing the melting pot to melt more)
The next clarification by F1 was then when the women got assaulted at the RB ring last season
Don’t forget the orange army brought this stuff in this kind of way first
One of them is being payed 40M+ a year to be there, and other are paying to boo him. I think it's obvious who's the winner and who's the looser here.
Loser*
My Dad (RIP) took me to the Dutch GP 1975 (8, almost 9-y-o) and I became a Ferrari-fan on the spot. V12 Lauda and Regazzoni, but the winner drove a Hesketh-Ford V8.
Lesson: Don't boo.
Spread love less hate we all share the same love for the sport. ❤
Perfectly put ❤️
We don't, us real fans share the love for the sport, the newer majority of fans share the love for reality TV
Bro, Have you ever heard of Twitter? Please don't go on it. 😅🤐
Abu Dhabi 2021 it's never going away
Last time someone spread love, people died from AIDS💀
I blame drive to survive
DTS certainly is at fault. They literally fake content to create drama and hatred. But I think it got this bad with the battle between Verstappen and Hamilton. Two fan bases who were already fanatics, two drjvers who are not known for being kind or humble and then they fight. That is explosive. There us a reason the most fans you always see in this hate fight are Hamilton's and Verstappen's
The issue has existed well before DTS season 1 released so you're missing the point
@@tilltronje1623 for real, and I think the fact of Max refusing to participate on it worsens his problem
@@NeonColored I think you missed the point too
Toto, it's called a joke.
@@MotorStonder what do you mean? Should he join the haters?
I don't think that would help
Seb got booed, Lewis got booed, now it's Max. It's amazing how quickly they've gone from loving him to hating him. Fans truly are the worst part of F1 at the moment and honestly I'm enjoying FE much much more at the moment because there's no real social media toxicity
Dominant drivers will always be booed.
It’s kinda hard to take people booing you seriously when you’re 20+ seconds ahead of the next team’s car 💀💀
The second-hand embarrassment I got from watching the videos made my teeth chatter, my shoulders grew higher and sent shivers down my spine.
To be fair though, your spine is only about a foot long.
That is called cringe
Timbers = shivered
Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. What I like about your channel is that you focus on the quality and ethical issues of F1 and provide educational information.
Drivers put their lives on the line to race. Booing against any of them is unacceptable. 🙏
Much appreciated and thanks for your support!
Booing against any of them is unacceptable WTF if you pay your $£ you can boo but abusive behaviour is over the line but booing ? Max threatening to head butt people is ok but booing is unacceptable how is othere harf live
It's more than only booing. It's really more like racism. if you are a verstappen fan or not this is unacceptable.
There's nothing wrong with booing, or saying a team or driver sucks. You seem more offended than the red bull guys...
NASCAR Fans are worst as they turn it up a notch by not only booing the drivers they hate, but sometimes throw cans and bottles on the track when they're really fired up.
The funniest part is that Max absolutely relishes in this behaviour
Hold on hold on. So when Lewis got booed by people and insulted with stupid chants, it was considered a racist thing and everyone made a fuss about it being because he’s black, so much so the FIA and Liberty Media stepped in and apologized, but as soon as Max is getting abuse, we hear nothing from either organization. Ridiculous
tbf, a lot of those heckles were indeed racist in nature
@@Clancysway I agree, but regardless if they were racist or not, Max should not be getting abuse as well. He’s had people changing death threats at him. It’s embarrassing
@@kinnexion It's not really new.
@@Clancysway You're repeating the original post, no content added at all
@@Selendeki No shit, man.
There's a mistake in the video title, those are not 'fans'
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oh hi dakair
I think they are Checo fans, closer to home for him
oh hi dakair
Checo and Lewis cultists
Man, Monza 2017 was my only race I watched live but it was just a great atmosphere. Sure, Hamilton won, and some people in red were pissed, but I remember sitting between people with all kinds of different merchandise, just having fun. It really felt like people just enjoyed watching the sport live and weren't too concerned about who is winning. I'm glad that I could be there when fans were still like this. Maybe they still are and it's just the shit we see on Twitter, but yeah. If it isn't, it's really sad
The DTS effect is growing and killing the sport at the same time
Believe it or not, at Silverstone 2018, people actually clapped for Vettel winning the race, the DTS effect is real.
@@TERZERA24 I think the raised ticket prices also might have something to do with it, especially at a place like Miami where they are super expensive. I imagine most of the fans have already seen a race or are probably going to go to one again, which means that they probably won't appreciate and savour the moments. It might be a strange comparison, but take food for example. You might absolutely hate fish fingers for example, and you would totally hate them. Now imagine you come from a really poor area and you haven't eaten for a week and some random dude gives you a plate full of fish fingers. You are probably now going to appreciate them fish fingers now, because your stomach has finally got what its wanted.
Was that the one where Lewis made a cheeky joke at the podium about Mercedes being better than Ferrari? 😂😂😂
Last year at Monza fans were throwing garbage at Verstappens car in the victory lap. And chanting that his mother is a whore during the national anthem. Such great fans!
what bothered me most was that during the post press conference, a British 'journalist' asked Max the question: “During the podiumceremony and interview, people were booing, why do you think that is? “
As if Max is responsible for those horrible hooligans and can answer the Why-question.
But not a single furious condemnation of these weirdos, no, first it must be a certain English driver for that....then the campaign will start again.
they did the same with Rosberg at Silverstone... 'The British were fans booing you, do you understand why?'
I respect Max that he once condemned his own fans in front of the media. He called ‘this kind of behavior against 44’ is disgusting and not acceptable. He used strong words to condemn his own fans. And I wish other drivers noticed these problems and restrain their own fans, too.
Not just max, it’s Lewis as well, the fans just switched roles now, instead of lewis getting booed for being dominant it’s not max, and before all of them it was vettel, shumi, etc.. the only one that probably never got booed during dominance was fangio but that was over 70 years ago.. that’s a huge difference
yeah exactly. Biggest problem nowadays is social media. It just gets around way more.
George And Charles are getting it really bad as well tbf. Especially George.
Example: comparing Russell to Bin Laden. Goes WAY PAST the line.
@@gameofender4463 George was compared to Bin Laden? Didn't see that one coming...
@@gameofender4463 lmfao ☠️☠️
@@gameofender4463
Osama bin russell offended you that much huh?
In my opinion, a major factor with these troubled fans is it also depends on how they are introduced to the sport. For example, old fans like myself watch F1 for the first time in 2004 when I was a little kid. What I enjoy watching is the racing, I don't take sides, and nobody told me that I need to choose a side, just purely enjoying racing.
Compared to today where media would often antagonize a certain driver for clicks or conversely, championing a certain driver, it would certainly affect these troubled fans behave. They act like it is only FAIR if their team won, or have their FAIR share of winning. Nothing is ever fair in F1, it is part of the sport. We are here to enjoy a race, not to see our favorite drivers win. If people are out there harassing drivers just because the drivers did their job, then these people should not be part of F1.
At the start of the season I felt annoyed that Red Bull were running away with it again. But then I started watching other forms of motorsport, like IndyCar and the WRC, where the drivers can make the difference more. Now when I watch F1, I can appreciate the feat of engineering and the team Red Bull have assembled. Seeing the car blast past Aston Martins and Ferraris and brake like they've hit a brick wall suddenly becomes cool to watch, because the racing itch has been scratched by the series I mentioned above.
Kinda the same with me, except I got introduced through general motorsport exposure, not the DTS way, I don't know why fans nowadays feel like it's a requirement to have a favorite driver/team, or be bias.
@@Thai8521 Booing is disgusting, it is stupid, and it is such a Shame for the sport but it's also kinda make a sense some less smart people would do something like that..
DTS did a good job to introduce new fans to F1 by making certain drivers or teams as a "Villain" role in the sport.. I mean Max literally boycotting DTS for that reason..
And add Max's and Horner's behavior to being brutally honest without filter in media to the mix.. And there you go, even if you didn't have a favorite team, You can find some comments or statements from Redbull that kinda annoying in media
DTS has brought football fans into the sport who must have 1 team 1 driver and hate the rest
When you were introduced it really doesn't matter. I didn't start watching F1 until 2017. I watched the highlights the year before and it got me hooked. Now i don't miss a race.
Its Just sports in general. Im a big Max fan but i respect Lewis, IMO him and vettel were perfect examples of how to use your platform for good.
I don't think you'll see this in Japan GP... Respectful, good mannered and no hooligans...
I’ve been a fan since 1992, and there’s definitely been a shift in the fan base recently, especially with the success of dts. The whole push towards breaking America is only gonna break the sport imo.
It’s almost impossible to have a decent discussion on anything f1 related these days, as soon as you mention Lewis or max it becomes toxic straight away and people instantly pick sides and fight till the death over it.
It really is getting to the point where I just can’t stand to think and read about something I’ve loved for over 30 years.
I've also been a fan since the 90's and I've never seen the behavior I'm seeing now. I must also say a lot of hatred towards Max is fueled by SkysportsF1 UK which has a global reach,and the FOM does nothing about that either.
The shift is much broader then just in F1 People are more aggressive even in normal pubs or on festivals where the atmosphere used to be so relaxed. I dont know why but alot of people are really spiteful nowadays
Don't read stuff about it and just watch the grand prix. All the BS is not worth your attention.
Funny how we can find evidence of this exact thing going back decades but now suddenly it's a problem because America started watching online a couple years ago.🤡
When something happens and an insecure person from an insecure nation finds something at fault: Blame America.
social media has definitely has had it's part in this
The Sky Sports narrative wasn't helpful either.
I was lucky enough to attend the Belgian GP last year, and there there was no hate, the max, lewis and ferrari fans all just co-existing. The only boos there were directed towards the rich people on the back of the truck on a track tour!
Same in Austin 2022
That's because here in Belgium and europe in general we are very multicultural. Are we surprised by americans being bigots ?
@@bot_b_t_w4156 there are literally videos from Austin last year when Max came on stage in the fan zone were people were chanting “cheater”
It’s because most Europeans aren’t about the drama. It’s mostly nationalists like Italian, brits and Americans. The rest doesn’t rlly care, maybe the French. Mostly middle aged people.
@@nicoreus4486 saying the USA isn’t multicultural or acting like Europeans would never do this is bigoted in itself.
one week they love me, next week they hate me, both weeks i got paid
- sebastian vettel
i’ve never felt more disconnected from the sport than over the last year
what happened to goodes was disgusting. its definitely not drive to survive fans only, its the age of instant gratification, social media and how close we can peer into these drivers lives, and the fact we have a generation of keyboard warriors who have grown up with little repercussion for their online acts.
Thank you for this. I went to Miami last year and this year and it’s truly changed my perspective on F1 Fans. Truly some of the worst fans in any fan base I’ve ever been apart of. Incredibly rude, they claim to care for racing but it’s just a bunch of micro cults who think “racing” is their team winning.
This is so sad. I only attended a GP once (Hockenheim Germany, 2018) and there was no booing or any negativity at all. Lots of Germans (of course), but also a lot of Dutch ppl among them, no hostility at all. Lewis won, no booing. It was how things are supposed to be, imo.
Thanks for sharing Adam’s story, what a sad way to have your career ended, by standing up for your own dignity
To me its starting to put me off from the sport, its painful to watch and just very unjustified.
I just hate the fact that all of these years max was unable to fight for a championship because of the car but showed such amazing racecraft, now he can finally fight for championships but everyone is trying their best to sour it as much as possible for him. It just makes me feel quite bad for him
They have been absolutely terrible lately. The crowds climbing over the fence in Miami was just awful. Stealing signs in Straya and flooding the track during cooldown lap. Absolute babies
I think this has a lot to do with a crowd behaviour. Any single individual wouldn't dare to insult anyone personaly but in the crowd, the anonymity is a huge factor. Plus, negative emotions are way easier to spread out in a crowd. Unfortunately this is something I don't think we can ever get rid off.
As a American this is so embarrassing but also I remind myself that it’s a Florida race and that the American grand prixs are held in party city’s. My expectations were already on the floor but the fans at the Miami race really just show money can’t buy class
no seriously, it hurts. I get it and I like to imagine most of us agree 3 races is a little too much, especially if 2/3 aren't well great. I feel like it's just hurting the image that the U.S. can have a normal fan base and not just be bad, which is like all you see online.
I’m ashamed that my fellow Americans acted like this!’ Im an American and I have the deepest respect for Max in F1. People can act incredibly childish when attention and booze are combined.
don't blame alcohol - that's their nature
This is done in other countries too. Don’t let them make you think only americans do this
@@longsleevethong1457 I’ve been to Monza and Silverstone and both had really annoying fans. Monza was the worst by far. They all hated Lewis with a passion and some of their chants were extremely disrespectful.
Imagine paying the ticket prices of miami just to boo at the winner lmao
It's very childish, football-ultra like behaviour. But, that's what happens with domination. What I absolutely abhor, is the clear hypocrisy of the official F1 broadcast regarding this topic.
I remember Sky's reporting leading up to the 2021 Dutch GP. And how they basically pleaded to the Dutch fans not to boo Lewis. And some fans _did_ boo Lewis. It's a given with tens of thousands of people present cheering on his rival. However, those fans were a tiny minority and were very quickly drowned out by the cheers of the rest. Where was that outrage a month and a half earlier? When Max was met with an absolute orchestra of boos at the British GP, clearly audible on live TV? And he didn't even make the podium during the main race.
How can they expect fan behaviour to improve, when some fans are held to a different standard by the official broadcaster?
I agree with you regarding fan actions. However, I think that this falls on Liberty Media's shoulders. They wanted to drum up interest in the sport, so they went the route of professional wrestling. ...and yes, "Drive to Survive" is a big part of that. Adding the interpersonal rivalries into the mix that are either overblown or completely fabricated has nothing to do with racing but creates a protagonist vs. antagonist battle.
Good to see you tall about Adam Goodes. Hes a legend of AFL and its a shame what happened to him, an extraordinary talent and player he was.
Yeah that whole situation was unbelievable. It wasn't exactly a casual remark that could have been misinterpreted as racism, it was flat out racist. He handled it so damn well also.
As an American fan I was really quite embarrassed. Whenever anyone would talk the crowd would scream Checo over the interview. It comes off as entitled and as much as I love Checo, I love treating all the drivers with the same respect more. There’s no reason to be yelling over an interview.
It is so strange to see it. Online, and in the stands, the boos and abuse. When you actually track, it's a supportive environment. As drivers we all push, and cheer for each other. We don't tear each other down. So to see outsiders causing such a scene and claim to be fans is divorced from what it is to actually be on or around the track.
Even if I'm frustrated Red Bull is dominating (not because I don't like Red Bull, I actually like the team, but because I prefer tighter fights), they don't deserve the hate at all. They just made a car better than everyone else's and that's due to the engineers' hard work
I remember going to my first an atm only race in person, 2018 British Grand Prix, i never once heard anything like what we heard that weekend, I felt safe and happy to be there, even tho hamilton didn’t win that day and his championship rival Vettel did, no one did what these “fans” did and it was a pleasant atmosphere
I went to the GP of Austria in 2017, but there the fans of Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes and all the other teams were mixed up. No fighting or booing during or after the race. everyone just clapped for all drivers and then a beer was enjoyed together. After the 2021 season where Max had the mega crash at Silverstone, everything has changed a lot in my opinion. especially since images then surfaced of Lewis fans clapping loudly and cheering for the crash.
At the Dutch GP that year they had a cheer audio ready when Lewis spoke, but that was not necessary. Certainly the last race in Abu Dhabi has not been helped by the smear campaign from Mercedes, TV journalists and fans. even now they want to reverse that title, in my opinion, drive to survive doesn't really help either.
Everything was blown up even more. I'm Dutch and I'm definitely a Verstappen fan, but I'm definitely a fan of the entire F1 world.
The current fans no longer resemble real F1 fans like in the time of Schumacher, Senna, Hakkinen and Vettel but rather football hooligans!
“These aren't fans, these are idiots.” - Me, a fan.
im a leclerc fan, but i wouldnt ever boo a driver since they are doing well. i just dont get how the people actually in championship battles are more respectful and friendly to eachother than the fans sitting infront of the tv or at the track
The most accurate meme for Max in this situation is the Woody Harrelson wiping his tears with his money one
Booing is one thing. Being outright rude and abhorrent to drivers is another thing.
Max, Lewis, George and Charles are getting a lot of abhorrent name calling at the moment.
George deserves it and Charles is very unlucky with his crashes
@@eco_logic No driver deserves hate. NONE. If you don’t think that’s it’s wrong then you’re not a good fan.
@@gameofender4463 Agreed. That is honestly pretty childish behaviour.
Especially those who are being negative towards Charles.
The guy absolutely has every talent and reason to be a world champion contender; last year proved it. The problem was that Red Bull's development outpaced Ferrari and he couldn’t keep up in the end once Max stretched his legs.
These are the best drivers in the world. Why are we mocking them when things go wrong?
George got a lot of flak from Lewis fans for his pit lane stunt last year. #WeRaceAsOne 😂
That's what happens when you bring F1 to the USA where they only know this sport from Netflix....
nah man, that is just miami
@@UngluckInc Americans look at Florida and go man that's fucked up. The world looks at America and see what you saw in Florida. Your whole country is mental. It's not like school and mass shootings only happen in one state.
nah this has nothing to do with that
They literally show it happening in other places too in the video; way too easy to just write off as an American problem
As a mexican, a lots of us feel very embarassed about the stupid behavior that much people have, we cant judge them, it is a sport, not our private lives, we have to learn limits and respect over all
2021 was amazing but also changed the sport for years to come in the worst ways
That’s the sad thing about 2021. What started out as a typical classic title battle turned into a toxic atmosphere within the F1 fanbase. The whole toxicity kind of ruined the season.
When you talked about Adam Goodes, it reminded me of a very similar story that happned over here in europe with a black Italian football player called Mario Ballotelli. What happened with him was big news at the time or whenever he called out that he was being racially abused weekly, but over time his story has been swept u der the rug. Its good to see stories like these 2 are still in people's minds and being shared, its important we dont forget them, but try and use them as agents of change so this sort of stuff doesn't happen again, as it seems to be starting in F1. We need to stop this behaviour before it gets as bad as Australian or standard football can be at times.
Ah, Mario. A story of 'What greatness that kid could have achieved'. Petulant, yes, but sometimes understandable. If fans and coach (or perhaps the managerial side) gave him more time he could have been one of Italy's best. I cannot say whether he will be on Leo's level (that man's not normal), but definitely one of the greats.
Can’t lie I’m glad this is being highlighted. I went to Silverstone camping last year (big max fan) and I was walking around in my red bull merch with a max hat and I was threatened to be stabbed cause of it. Had people shoving me in the groups when walking the grounds. Thrown stuff at me, insulted, threatened to be killed. I don’t get it, I have the upmost respect for Lewis and Merc as they were top dogs for years, wanted more people to love the sport but unfortunately should’ve been careful what I wished for.
That's so not right! That shouldn't happen to any fan of the sport, no matter what flag you wear.
@@kerimmejdoub1381 I just don’t understand it. Anyone can support anyone and healthy debate is what fuels the sport but when violence is added just because of who you support it just kills it
@@cod4master666 i was in Austria last year (I am a Ferrari fan). I was sitting in Turn 3 and during the Sprint, Hamilton and Mick had a great fight, so did the Ferraris upfront for P2. A woman (probably in her 20s) stood up with her mates and began to shout the following (translated into English) : Mick, crash him out, that fucking n* [...].. To the Ferraris: crash into yourself.
She and her mates were all wearing RB merch and a "Orange Army" hat.
Also during the Austrian GP, the news came up that a young female Mercedes Fan (she was there with her dad) was sexually assaulted and almost abused by Verstappen fans after the Sprint
Imo, this booing and assaulting is sadly normalized in the most European tracks as a certain fanbase is dominating the grandstands
@@fbi0529 I'm not saying it didn't happen, but that case of sexual assault should have been officially reported, which it was not, so while it's in the realm of possibility, I find it hard to believe as the other incidents you mentioned
@@fbi0529 Lying
I'm an American and am embarrassed by those fans. Those are probably people who don't watch every race like I do. Max deserved the win.
I kinda feel like most of the prestigious sporting organizations have their share of cutthroat fans out there.
Now sure a little friendly-rivalry-banter is fine, but when people go far as to fighting each other to tearing everything apart is unnecessary. Especially in this day and age with social media. It’s almost sickening when some people treat their team like some kind of cult. And when someone wants to like a different team, you can definitely expect a lot of threats about that.
Don’t get me wrong, if you like a certain sports/racing team that’s great. But as long as you enjoy the show no matter what happens, then that would make life just a little bit less hell.
This is what happens when you have a race in Miami
ah yes, because this has only ever happened at Miami
Wasn't aware Silverstone '21 and Monza '22 were in Miami
F1 as a whole is sort of embarrassing at the moment, it’s a shame
Americans and the abundance of dictator GP's will do that.
They show up and race. What else do want to see?
I remember my dad telling me about his experience at the 1999 Hungarian GP when Schumacher and Hakkinen were battling it out. The grandstand he was sitting in had both Schumi and Mika supporters, with him supporting the latter. In the end, Hakkinen ended up winning, and the fans got up, shook hands, and congratulated each other, no booing, no hateful behavior, no football-style hooliganism, just pure class; a bunch of people being there to enjoy the race and support their favourite driver. I think since F1 has become more accessible to the masses, which is not necessarily a bad thing, the classiness has vanished, and fans are becoming more and more toxic, having observed this when I attended the Monza race last year. I really don't like the direction this sport is heading towards... maybe elitism has its role in some places, maybe F1 isn't for everyone, because nowadays it lacks the class and glamour it used to have, it has been americanized in the worst way possible and just feels like a continuous cash grab; but in the end, cash is king.
We saw this with Vettel in 2013, even at Silverstone (despite certain people claiming British fans never boo) and with Rosberg in 2016 and Schumacher in 2002 - although those two cases were down to specific behaviour on track and fairly isolated examples. The difference these days is the media; Sky F1, for example, endlessly speculating and accusing for engagement, and exaggerating whenever they interview team personnel or drivers. It's not really surprising the level of entitlement from some fans considering they were used to winning year after year.
Not to get all "political", but this isn't an "F1 fan" issue. It's a societal issue. In the past 20 years or so our society has evolved into always needing a villain in everything. It's the product of decades of sensationalist, outrage media. It's noticeably more prevalent in western countries because that's where society has been most affected by it. There's no fix, I'm afraid. Civility is a thing of the past. All downhill from here my guy.
The whole Miami f1 event was cringe
US
I suspect they added Miami and Vegas because they couldn’t add the same level of cringe to Austin
I can't see that GP lasting 5 years. An influencer race with rip off prices, give that a couple years and watch all the empty seats. But to be fair there is a lot of races that need cut from the calendar. Miami, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain etc Qatar should have never been given a GP and Abu Dhabi is probably the worst finale race in any formula. Bring back Interlagos as the final GP.
Just you wait for Las Vegas then...
I’m a fan with cerebral palsy. The event was great to attend, the staff was kind, they found me a golf cart when I got tired to walk back to my seat. Everyone had a fantastic time and we clapped at both Red Bull drivers and Lewis from my stands at the beach. The narrative that the event was a failure is not true. Everyone I interacted with had a fantastic time. Maybe other races are better, but I was smiling the whole time. I wasn’t the greatest Max fan before the weekend, but seeing his performance live was really incredible. And I still really love Lewis. One doesn’t exclude the other. This isn’t soccer where I have to root just for one team.
I'm a Max fan, but I didn't act like that when Lewis was dominating every year.
People are not being ridiculous. They are being malicious. Big difference!
I think it happens to all sports that go mainstream like soccer. When a sport goes really popular worldwde, a big porcentage of watchers are a casual audience. Some people call them the new fans but in reality is just the porcentage of casual watchers that grew the most. But also the hooligan fans grew.
They can go home and have a nice evening 😂
This kind of stuff discourages me to bring my family out to our first GP. Imagine paying an arm & a leg just to be stuck with toxic fans yelling slurs or plain kicking you out of the section. Hope we can do better in the future.
When I was a kid I was at the 2002 Austrian GP with my dad. The fans were so civilized and the Ferrari-Fans went alongside the McLaren-Fans and all others. Nobody was aggressive or anything. I hate how that developed to the worse :/
You are right about this! What i don't understand is that there are youtube channels influencing their audience to do this by giving 'their' hatered opinion about a driver , bringing up their personal lives and families...
This is just disgusting, but I get that it's inevitable. The bigger the sport, the bigger and louder the crowd, and sadly we can't expect everyone to have good manners.
Such a great video. I remember when Adam Goodes left the sport and no one spoke about why. It is so important that we discuss how racially motivated hate towards people is so damaging
The secondhand embarrassment is real. I’m cringing so hard watching that intro bit. I’ve never really been a big fan of Max but now I am 😅
You became max fan after he's being hated on?
The more the sport becomes popular the more passionate fans will get and the more we will see such disgrace. I am not a Max fan, but I respect his talent and I condemn the behavior. Such a behavior has roots in culture (no matter what the country), education and character, thus us unavoidable.
Dutch fans cheered for Hamilton at Zandvoort.
I definitely think this is a "sports fan" issue in general. Regardless of whether you're talking about FIFA, the Premier League, the NFL, NBA, NHL, F1, Indycar, NASCAR, etc., there are lots of toxic fans in pretty much every professional (and even on down the line) sports fanbase.
Thank you for showing this and those guilty should feel ashamed... I also thank you for your recommendation of The Australian Dream, watched it, loved it. 💖💖💖💖💖💖
It’s sad that so many driver’s fan bases have become truly insufferable and hard to reason with. As a huge Lewis Hamilton fan for over a decade, I don’t consider myself part of TeamLH because of how truly toxic some of them have become. Max’s fan base is just as bad. A good chunk of the more well known drivers also seem to have awful fans like Leclerc and Norris. The toxicity in the fan base is one of the things I really can’t stand about this sport. I don’t like Max but he has the right mentality of “I don’t care, I’m taking the trophy home”.
All fanbases have a portion of that toxicity, but it's still a minority of those fanbases.
Best thing to stop it is to speak up when they start. 2 years ago after they were booing Verstappen in Silverstone, there were fans that said to boo Hamilton at Zandvoort. Verstappen called out to his fans in dutch media not to boo. But there were a few who wanted to do it anyways, at the track they were corrected by other Verstappen fans to stop and all other fans clapped louder for Hamilton because of it.
Just as bad? Really???
@@minatoyellowflash100 This is one of the problems. It's really not just as bad, but ppl are afraid to say so. Because, yes there are always a few bad apples, but as a group they are not all just as bad as the other. There are only a few 'fan' groups that do this en masse and tbh, the 'orange army' isn't one of them.
With you on that one, there is very much a difference between Hamilton fans and TeamLH they are completely separate
This is why I support more than one team in f1. I noticed that any group that does these hate rants towards Red bull, Mercedes or another team for that matter are diehard fans of only one team and they have no respect. I legit have people say to me that supporting more than one team is wrong and should pick one 💀
As a fellow Aussie and lifelong Sydney supporter, I really like that you mentioned Goodesys story in this context. As aussies, I feel as if booing is a large part of our sporting culture (unfortunately), and I have noticed that at the last few AusGPs. At AusGP22, a bunch of people around me boo'd Lewis during the drivers parade for no reason, and this year it became Max more prominently. Unfortunately in terms of Australian boo-ers, I don't see this changing as it's so ingrained in our sporting culture, even if many of us disagree with it.
i'm an alonso/aston martin fan but i honestly think it's healthier to respect every team and driver on the grid rather than picking one and disregarding the rest. it's fine to have favourites, obviously but the sport is so much more enjoyable when you look for positives in how other teams perform as well. albon did so well for himself in australia and i was super disheartened when he DNF'd, leclerc finally getting a podium in azerbaijan was great to see even if it meant alonso wouldn't be up there and hey, say what you want about how boring races can be when P1-2 is dominated by one team but it's cool to see red bull doing well for themselves again.
Thank DTS for this, and British media.
Every media is biased really, the British media is just the most heard
agreed a 100%, but I still think that Miami GP should just f off
It's not americans who shouted look at it again those are Mexicans who support Checo for them with money Miami GP is pretty close. Their toxic media have show Max not helping out Checo while he said earlier that Checo was a legend. They broadcasted that over and over without content they 'forgot' that Checo spoiled his qualification in another race and we don't know what was being said behind the spotlight. Perhaps Max was a bit rude or ruthless. But let's not forget he ok'd his move to Red Bull.
@@randar1969 What a way to turn everything on it's head. look at my comment again. I don't say anything about americans, I've said, that I 100% agree with what Pesr said in the video. But that I also think, that the Miami GP should F off.
This "Miami experience" is a disgrace to the sport imho. It is just a cringe show full of fake celebrities, fake people and fake fans and it is chugged into our throats like they're about o make a F1 Foie Gras from our livers. In other words. Yeah, fans we're bad at Miami GP, but Miami GP in general is IMO a shitshow in general.
One of the biggest reason is because f1 is becoming more of a "show" and the new drive to survive fans doesn't know the sport enough
Thank you for making the video and talking about this.