i love how rhaast scythe becomes more of a bass guitar and can be seen playing it during skill cast while shadow assassin you become more of a vocalist
Not sure if anybody noticed but they changed the sounds a little and added music to the third ability and the ult. Not sure if it was there before but it wasn't noticeable in the pbe video. THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR THE SKIN! It's quite simple and could've been louder but I'll happily take it Edit: YES! They did amp up the volume on the music, making it a lot more noticeable now. Super happy about it!
@@lonce6174 I believe it's very slightly different! It seems like shadow assassin's music has the clearest and loudest beat, Rhaast has the most distortion and base Kayn has a mix of both. The music during the ult is entirely different and only SA resembles the MV (or at least resembles it the most)
I honestly really like the dynamic of Kayn and Rhaast in this skin. There are definitely going to be people who wished Rhaast was more prominent in Darkin Form but he's an alter ego in this skin and those are typically part of an artist's own personality rather than a completely different one (think Eminem's Slim Shady) and the dynamic of Rhaast and Kayn being 2 different people fighting for control is already part of base Kayn and Odyssey Kayn so this is a very fresh take on the character that doesn't stray too far. I really like that both Darkin and Shadow Assassin are just Kayn's own internal turmoil of trying to prove he's good and that his old band kicking him out was a mistake. Rhaast being the more toxic side of himself that constantly pushes him to be better while Shadow Assassin is what he wants to be. There's self-doubt and repressed emotions but also a drive to be perfect and prove he's the best, all the edgy angst of a young punk artist.
Eh, both forms still have way less interactions between Rhaast and Kayn compared to base Odyssey form. Cutting Rhaast voice down is not a smart decision for this skin IMO
Actually it's the opposite In the music universe kayn was raised and groomed to be the perfect and flawless musician, but the first chance he got he rebelled against that and created rhaast as a stage persona Shadow assassin is what he could become if he got back to his old life of "being perfect"
I really loved the skin, but the fact that Rhaast's transformation had fewer lines due to being an alter ego didn't sit well with me, if that were the case he should HAVE more lines with Kayn so this would be more evident, when is Rhaast lines, the sound have effect and when it's a line from "base kayn", his voice loses its effect, it seems like the skin has a dubbing bug, even in the SA form I didn't hear Rhaast speak once in PBE
I understand that its an alter ego and all.. but there is so few Rhaast lines that could make an impact. It just feels.. Weird without him. Skin looks astonishing but the little amount of rhaast lines just kills it for me
This skin is really good, it has nice VFX, SFX and animations, but... I really don't understand what happened to his hair, it looks nothing like how it usually does in the MV or promotional art :/
They couldnt fit the song playing all the time into his sound files cuz hes got so many voicelines and sound effects and shit, so they had to make it standing only.
Im absolutely in love with this skin. The character interactions and voice lines are awesome, the emotes are all original to the skin, his idle animation, his attacks, his recall, his death and his transformation. Rhaast representing his old self that had a grudge for being dumped by his last band rock n roll band, with heavier sounds, the scythe being a bass, but still maintaning the silhouette and the colors palette of the original one, showing that its still Kayn not a completely different being. And the assassin being sort of him embracing this new part of his life, allowing him to be more flamboyaunt and colorful and have fun, have emotions, including the insecurity of not letting people see that he hurts too, being a vocalist, letting himself be heard. And then you see the other skins and its like... Some of them have one or two original emotes to the skin, some dont have special interactions, most of them kept their original voice lines instead of making new ones that made sense to being a boy band, some dont have special death animation or arriving/getting revived at the base animation, some didnt even had the dance or any performing sort of bit (looking at you Sett). Its like Kayn skin was the first where they went all in with all the power they had and they kind of got tired ( or out of time) and made the others half arsed. The characters have great personality and looks and material they posted online showing things that could be put on the skins to make it fun and they just ignored all of it after making Kayn, it feels like. Aphelios is pretty well done too, not as good, just good enough. But lets face it, the character doesnt have voice lines. I love the skins and I love the song and the animation and all the social media bits, I think thats why seeing them in game felt disappointing and flat.
in this au Kayn is just a human and Rhaast is his alter ego. IE any Rhaast lines are just him doing a voice to himself. So when in Darkin form, he's still Kayn
For everyone curious about what Rhaast and SA represent in this skin (got this infos from rioters twits): Rhaast is Kayns alter ego, like a lot of rappers he created a persona to let all his wild instincts run wild on the stage, Rhaast doesnt completely replace Kayns personality when he transforms cause its not like the normal kayn got killed, but Rhaast has a lot more power over his mind and talks way more. Shadow Assasin is an alternative version of Kayn that stopped listening to Rhaast, so I'll give a more complex explanation with some personal reflections as well. Kayn in this skinline is a talented rapper in a tough spot, he got expelled from his previous group and tries costantly to hide his feelings behind his bad boy looks and expressions, while desperately craving for a chance to prove himself, prove that he didnt deserve to get kicked out of his old band, that he deserves fame, that he can be better than everyone else and in a few words be perfect. And thats what SA is, if Kayn didnt join Heartsteel and found a group of friends that understand him and let him have fun and be wild on stage in his Rhaast form, Kayn would have probably rejected Rhaast, seeing him as the reason of his failures as an artist and fully focus on the rational and techincal part of himself, striving for ultimate perfection. So we got a Kayn that followed completely this path and became as he says himself "the perfect performer", he trained his whole life for this, thats why his ego is so big, thats why he doesnt joke around like Rhaast, he stopped seeing music as something fun and started seeing it as a way to show that he can rise above everyone else. I think people who underestimate this skins forms and label them as "low-effort" didnt give a single tought about how well they managed to portray Kayn in a completely different scenario of what were used to. I love Odissey, its been my favourite skin in the game since release, but as insane as it is, it just takes Kayns base concept and improves it a lot setting it in a better scenario, with better voicelines, interactions, ecc without really taking the extra step of exploring further possibilities of what Kayn and Rhaast could be. Thats why even tough I still dont know if this skin is gonna replace Odisseys spost in my heart, and I like Odisseys voicelines more, I appreciate so much the work Riot has done to create this new version of Kayn. I think we Kayn mains are so lucky that we got so much love and effort put in the skins for our champion and we got so used to be one of Riots favourite babies that we stopped being thankful for it and started focusing only on the small things that we dont fully appreciate. As a last note: skins have a maximum of memory they can occupy and its not really high, since those have to be shown in game even if someone is playing on the potatoest pc ever, so if something you wanted is not in this skin that you think it could have been "easy to add", they probably tought about it, but decided there were more important features that needed that memory space.
Great comment, I definitely agree with your analysis. What I also really like about the new skin is his base color being better than any chroma except for the last one maybe. The color palette is really on point on any form.
@@despawned39 I think the Chromas are all pretty good, but they defenetely went the hardest with his base one and event chroma. Also Ernest, the dog from the music video, on tatooed on Kayns chest is so fucking cool and a nice easter egg for the people who watched Paranoia.
I think the issue isn't about the theme of the skin, the idea is fantastic, it's just that the skin itself doesn't accurately reflect this, mainly because Rhaast's form doesn't show much of a shift in persona. It's like Rhaast piped up a bit, but it's still 'Kayn' talking 80% of the time. If they made Rhaast.... talk more often as Rhaast, it'd be a very very well executed skin, and the lore behind it would support it fantastically. When people play Kayn and pick their form, Rhaast and Shadow Kayn should be identifiable from eachother, and hearing Kayn coming out of Rhaast most of the time just kinda doesn't work. Kayn's personality remaining for lore reasons is cool, but it shouldn't be at the forefront.
@@devilix123987 I will be able to say more about this once its live and I'll get my hands on it, but if Rhaast voicelines are not more then the kayn ones when you trasform it would be quite a shame. I think its cool that Kayn is still there, but I still want Rhaast to be in control.
@@Alet0o Absolutely, if it's sorted when the skin is live, I will definitely reconsider the skin. Cause the idea is really cool. But the emotes remaining seemingly untouched in this updated skin spotlight isn't giving me hope, as that would be pretty indicative of the 'line distribution' in itself, and Riot don't really make further changes beyond this point usually.
I've come to enjoy this skin, but I still have no clue what his shadow assassin form is supposed to be. In the mv we see him as normal Kayn, with a short appearance from Rhaast (which if I'm understanding this correctly is his persona for when he performs). Is SA Kayn his... real form? Him without the need of a persona? Him without the group? I'm genuinely confused by the concept
I'm fairly sure it's meant to be him after he's "made it" in the industry. Idk if he's still in Heartsteel but it's meant to be him at the peak of success.
@@naii9775 I see. While I kinda like the idea, I’m a bit disappointed in the fact that there are really no clues to that, or maybe I just didn’t notice them. Does he have specific voice lines that point to that?
Just like someone else said, it is Kayn at the peak of his career, when he really succeeds, so if Riot makes another music video with Heartsteel, or Kayn in general, we will most likely see SA form in the music video.
Rhaast is the way to go with this skin, but Shadow Assasin looks too much like Sukuna to pass up. The lore of this skin is actually very nice, with Rhaast being the alter ego of his hate toward his old band that shouldnt have kicked him out and makes him improve and shadow assasin being the person he wants to be I also really like that they don't kill each other here. Their dynamic dissappears when you choose one side over the other and with this skin they both stay
idk why people are all of the sudden whining, this skin is INSANE. whether it's the bright crazy vfx or the animations or the models themselves. all it misses is a revive animation but the skin size was too big which makes sense. there's no way they were 'lazy', this skin is the opposite of lazy. insta buy for a kayn main i think, unless you just hate the concept.
People just love to complain and after the massive wave of crying that got syndras coven skin changed people think riot should change every skin to their liking
It's not that it's the fact that his splash and music video have THE SAME hair style, but his in-game does not it's false advertising same thing happened with evelynn and they had to change her splash for it lol and she's a epic skin it's more of the fact now days no one at riot takes feed back at all
Disappointing that you hear Kayn talking most of the time when you are Rhaast , especially in emotes. Prolly won't get this skin because of that alone. The fun of Kayn is that it's two personalities clashing and bantering with eachother, and you can choose which one to lean into. Even in this setting where Kayn and Rhaast seem to be present together, it feels so wrong hearing Kayn come out of Rhaast's mouth, especially seeing as Rhaast seems to not exist when you are Shadow Kayn for some reason??? The skin concept is cool, just unfortunate that so many details don't make sense even in the Universe's lore, and somewhat defeats the point of Kayn and Rhaast as characters.
Rhaast is Kayn's alter ego, when he transforms it is mainly one personality that takes control without overriding the other, so it makes sense that in both transformations you can still hear Kayn and Rhaast. In the SA voice lines there are some where Rhaast is there
@@Themerodox I understand this, but that's why it's so jarring to hear Kayn talking *so much* when it's Rhaast taking over. It still feels like Kayn is the personality at the wheel, when the 'aesthetic/outfit' is Rhaast. Meanwhile, Shadow Kayn is like 99% Kayn. I think they should've toned it down, at the very least, given him unique Rhaast lines for his emotes.
Why does Rhaast's hair clip through his hood in his idle animation (hood seems very attached to the top of his head normally) and why are alot of the voice lines still Kayn while in Rhaast form? Other than these two things I noticed, skin looks great, I like all the diff skill animations like when SA uses his W he holds the mic close.
Ah right, ye I saw someone mention it's like his alternate personality, which is interesting but also feels kinda weird, ty for clarification tho.@@exzyyd392
He still looks like he's laughing after he's done laughing, great. And Shadow Assassin W still just disappears, it's there one frame, then gone the next. It looks so off, ALL his other skins has some type of fade out, Base and Soulhunter W clone turns into a shadow, Odyssey Kayn's scythe spins into the ground, Nightbringer and Snowmoon both fade out. So why does this (Legendary) skin make his shadow clone just disappear, like someone's just pressing delete on it?
There's no way he got the evelynn treatment as a legendary skin with the hair edit I'm legit talking about his hair being not the same as his splash or his music vid lmao you guys went off on something else XDDDDD
@ Snow Moon Kayn also has short hair, they got around the model restriction by making the long ponytail into his scarf instead, as long as he has the silhouette of having 'A long thing from his neck' they can manage.
Rhaast feels extremely underwhelming. Like the whole idea is thats he's his own personality, he's not part of Kayn, he's fighting to take over the body, ao picking him and still hearing that much of Kayn is so disappointing
So you want it just to be base kayn and odyssey kayn. Then whats the point. Like just say you want normal kayn. In all kayn skins rhaast and him basically arent on the same team. I like the change they made as its first different second works really well in the context of the story.
legendary skins are supposed to completely change concept of the champion, examples like space groove blitzcrank and coven nami completely change the champion in total, which makes it better and more original, I think this is a great variety for those who like kayn but not so much the original concept
After getting IJ Soraka and BC Riven which are basically just recolors with the same boring concept as their older legendaries, I'm glad they actually tried doing something different for once.
@@thefearturkey6944 Bruhh ppl dont get it, rhaast has so few line sin the base hearsteel skin and after he transforms he still shares hte saem with base kayn which is nothing, he barly has any voicelines i mean i reallyt wudnt mind it if there were differnt voicelines alltoghter between them but its just the same voices. For a legendary when put agianst odyssey i think it losses hard. playing with differnet stories and personas is good but we jsut dont hear rhaast at all very often
I think they should have given Rhaast form different emote lines. Pretty jarring to hear Kayn without even a filter from Rhaast. I'm aware Rhaast is an alter-ego but still.
Heartsteel vs KDA all out skin battle band Top lane k'sante vs Akali Jungle lane kayn vs evelynn Mid lane ezreal vs ahri Dragon lane aphelios vs Kai'sa Support lane sett vs seraphine
but we should at least hear Rhaast, it's the Rhaast persona so it should be a majority Rhaast. It's frustrating to have so little Rhaast in the base form and then to have almost less of him in his own form.
the chromas are so disappointing, and base form only looks good on default. why are ruby and event base forms basically the same? at least odyssey had a good bit of variation. i get that its 3 skins in 1 so chromas are a bit harder to do, just do 2 different chromas in a skin that compliments the other. example: all the heartsteel skins get 8 chromas with event and half of them are dark colors, kayn gets 4 with event and its all fucking pastels. only the blue and gold chroma BARELY makes either form actually look good.
I really don't like the running anymation, feels off and weird. And the fact that Rhaast speaks too much with kayn voice is a bit off too. But the skin over all is pretty good
Isn't Kayn's scythe suppose to indicate which direction he's gonna exit towards at the end of the ult? On this skin the scythe always points to the right. Also the dangling microphone at the end of of Blue Kayn's scythe is lame they could've done what they did with Pentakill Karthus. Full o' Ls
I am terribly disappointed with the SA form. What even is the lore behind it? It doesn't appear in the MV and just feels like an afterthought. The hair being green is also a very strange choice. Rhaast keeps to the original colors of the skin, being yellow and purple, but SA is green for some reason (?). And also on the point of his hair; why did it have to grow so much? I thought it was a cool idea to give kayn shorter hair, since he for the most part has long hair, apart from odyssey. Giving him a wolf cut or something similar would have worked better imo (I'm aware that they need it to be longer for gameplay clarity, but it could have been shorter still). I'm also really disappointed in the chromas for this skin. They're way too saturated and bright. The base skin has a good amount of dark, with SA even having some black/grey. But the chromas are all white for some reason. They just feel like a bunch of star guardian chromas really, especially the event one.
I diagree these are some the best chormas on any skin i think it just fits the skin more for brighter chormas over deep darks also color choice wise its all top notch
@@apexpradator9625 even so they still need to keep to their champion silhouette. If base SA Kayn has long hair any other skin regardless of rarity SA kayn will have long hair. Same goes for Rhaast except change out the long hair for a pair of big horns.
@@EpidemicPain every, did not stray from core truth of the character, had cleaner and more defined model, had complete lore, more and better voice lines and also had intentional Dark Cosmic skin as one of transformations. It is just a superior skin. It oozes Kayn arrogance.
@@DarkSpells87 Lets address these shall we "truth of the character" idk man kayn being a random guy from a random empire that happened to find a dark star scythe in a random world does not really feel "true to character" The lore in odyssey is very lackluster and we still dont know how rhaast went from the dark star universe to odyssey or why, what is ora or even what are the empires kayn wants to rule Rhaast is a dark star not a dark cosmic(granted riot themselves dont know what a dark cosmic actually is) Kayn being completely insane and broken mentally in odyssey shadow assassin is also not really true to character
Honestly I like this one way more than Odyssey. The fact that it changed the dynamic of the internal conflict between Kayn and Rhaast is a very cool take by making them one in the same. Rhaast being the alter ego of sorts makes it for me and on top all of it, the animations are SICK
Very wierd skin design. Feels like a stretch making Rhaast an alter ego. Would have been a more compelling dealing if Rhaast was a Pentakill member, shadow Kayn was a KDA member, and regular Kayn was Heartsteel. Three bands in one skin and thematically appropriate.
They tunned down the sfx but the ult is still pay to lose, no Rhaast in the skin, same re-used rigs and animations except for emotes and iddle. Yeah, not worth it if you have to pay for it.
the rhaast is great but can we just have a normal set of colors on kayn's legendary skins for once? and not the hetero curious kind of shit design, the dude wears a fucking crop top
i love how rhaast scythe becomes more of a bass guitar and can be seen playing it during skill cast while shadow assassin you become more of a vocalist
shadow assassin has a mic attached to his sycthe at the end meanwhile rhaast has a butplug attached at the end
@@apexpradator9625 HAHAHA
I also love that and high-key want to recreate it but idek if it'd count as a bass; it only has 3 strings😭🥴 not that it REALLY matters...
the bass ONLY HAVE E, A, AND D
Not sure if anybody noticed but they changed the sounds a little and added music to the third ability and the ult. Not sure if it was there before but it wasn't noticeable in the pbe video. THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR THE SKIN! It's quite simple and could've been louder but I'll happily take it
Edit: YES! They did amp up the volume on the music, making it a lot more noticeable now. Super happy about it!
Is it just me or is there is a different music/beat in each form?
@@lonce6174 I believe it's very slightly different! It seems like shadow assassin's music has the clearest and loudest beat, Rhaast has the most distortion and base Kayn has a mix of both. The music during the ult is entirely different and only SA resembles the MV (or at least resembles it the most)
I honestly really like the dynamic of Kayn and Rhaast in this skin. There are definitely going to be people who wished Rhaast was more prominent in Darkin Form but he's an alter ego in this skin and those are typically part of an artist's own personality rather than a completely different one (think Eminem's Slim Shady) and the dynamic of Rhaast and Kayn being 2 different people fighting for control is already part of base Kayn and Odyssey Kayn so this is a very fresh take on the character that doesn't stray too far. I really like that both Darkin and Shadow Assassin are just Kayn's own internal turmoil of trying to prove he's good and that his old band kicking him out was a mistake. Rhaast being the more toxic side of himself that constantly pushes him to be better while Shadow Assassin is what he wants to be. There's self-doubt and repressed emotions but also a drive to be perfect and prove he's the best, all the edgy angst of a young punk artist.
The dynamic is really good, but the fact we hear a lot less of Rhaast is a bit underwhelming for me
@@Mokujin__ I totally agree i barely hear any banter between the 2
Eh, both forms still have way less interactions between Rhaast and Kayn compared to base Odyssey form. Cutting Rhaast voice down is not a smart decision for this skin IMO
@@Mokujin__I really wanted more Rhaast voicelines with this skin
Actually it's the opposite
In the music universe kayn was raised and groomed to be the perfect and flawless musician, but the first chance he got he rebelled against that and created rhaast as a stage persona
Shadow assassin is what he could become if he got back to his old life of "being perfect"
I really loved the skin, but the fact that Rhaast's transformation had fewer lines due to being an alter ego didn't sit well with me, if that were the case he should HAVE more lines with Kayn so this would be more evident, when is Rhaast lines, the sound have effect and when it's a line from "base kayn", his voice loses its effect, it seems like the skin has a dubbing bug, even in the SA form I didn't hear Rhaast speak once in PBE
Yeah. Although i am someone who only goes blue kayn and never rhaast, i feel bad for rhaast and rhaast players
why would rhaast speak in the shadow assassin form? kayn is supposed to absorb him
@@shinoharakurocause in when rhaast takes over in this skim you hear kayn not rhaast..
@@shinoharakuro because in this skin, they are not enemys try to subdue each other
@@shinoharakuro because in this skin Rhaast isn't a Darkin, he's Kayn's alter ego, so they still chat
The skin got bug fixes and that's it. They didn't take any feedback into account. They need to stop asking us for feedback they do not care.
What was wrong with the skin?
@@Linkanator-xn6og no respawn animation for example in a 20€ skin
The skin is legit fine it doesn't need anything else
They actually improved the sound effects and added music to the E and R.
Music was already on pbe but super low and unnoticeable, it's now way better.
They sux
Kinda wish that he has some smoke effects when he uses his E or Ultinate like that scene when he went through a wall in the video
Hate it or Love it, but this skin is now memorable. RIP Sam Mowry😔✊
I understand that its an alter ego and all.. but there is so few Rhaast lines that could make an impact. It just feels.. Weird without him. Skin looks astonishing but the little amount of rhaast lines just kills it for me
This skin is really good, it has nice VFX, SFX and animations, but... I really don't understand what happened to his hair, it looks nothing like how it usually does in the MV or promotional art :/
They updated the icon to match his MV counterpart but not the hair on his skin. Really odd
@phelinmelon1007 really?? Whats the difference?
@@scarletwarlock9325 icon now has the hair down, it used to have a cowlick like the in-game model
WHY THE FCK IS THERE NO RESPAWN ANIMATION?????? THIS IS A LEGENDARY SKIN.
Idk why the music only plays while idle, how often do you just stand still... I mean true damage Ekko plays music all the time.
They couldnt fit the song playing all the time into his sound files cuz hes got so many voicelines and sound effects and shit, so they had to make it standing only.
@@jamesbalewa932 that doesn't make any sense, why would a check to play the music only when idle take more space then it playing all the time?
Im absolutely in love with this skin. The character interactions and voice lines are awesome, the emotes are all original to the skin, his idle animation, his attacks, his recall, his death and his transformation. Rhaast representing his old self that had a grudge for being dumped by his last band rock n roll band, with heavier sounds, the scythe being a bass, but still maintaning the silhouette and the colors palette of the original one, showing that its still Kayn not a completely different being. And the assassin being sort of him embracing this new part of his life, allowing him to be more flamboyaunt and colorful and have fun, have emotions, including the insecurity of not letting people see that he hurts too, being a vocalist, letting himself be heard.
And then you see the other skins and its like... Some of them have one or two original emotes to the skin, some dont have special interactions, most of them kept their original voice lines instead of making new ones that made sense to being a boy band, some dont have special death animation or arriving/getting revived at the base animation, some didnt even had the dance or any performing sort of bit (looking at you Sett). Its like Kayn skin was the first where they went all in with all the power they had and they kind of got tired ( or out of time) and made the others half arsed. The characters have great personality and looks and material they posted online showing things that could be put on the skins to make it fun and they just ignored all of it after making Kayn, it feels like. Aphelios is pretty well done too, not as good, just good enough. But lets face it, the character doesnt have voice lines. I love the skins and I love the song and the animation and all the social media bits, I think thats why seeing them in game felt disappointing and flat.
Clearly there was no budget for a respawn animation.
never thought id like these kinds of skins, but i fw this heavy
now its hard to pick between snow moon or this
Wait the voice lines don’t switch when you change forms? Why is kayn talking on rhaast form????????
in this au Kayn is just a human and Rhaast is his alter ego. IE any Rhaast lines are just him doing a voice to himself. So when in Darkin form, he's still Kayn
huh ? Am I wrong or Kayn doesn't have any animation after revive ???
hmm, big mistake for Riot
@@longhai5376 it’s a shame the skin is really nice but it’s really noticeable for me 😟
@@ziquis8384 is pre release have it??? So confuse
It doesn't have a respawn animation it went over memory production I mean memory budget and production so they have to get rid of it
@@longhai5376 it does not
For everyone curious about what Rhaast and SA represent in this skin (got this infos from rioters twits):
Rhaast is Kayns alter ego, like a lot of rappers he created a persona to let all his wild instincts run wild on the stage, Rhaast doesnt completely replace Kayns personality when he transforms cause its not like the normal kayn got killed, but Rhaast has a lot more power over his mind and talks way more.
Shadow Assasin is an alternative version of Kayn that stopped listening to Rhaast, so I'll give a more complex explanation with some personal reflections as well. Kayn in this skinline is a talented rapper in a tough spot, he got expelled from his previous group and tries costantly to hide his feelings behind his bad boy looks and expressions, while desperately craving for a chance to prove himself, prove that he didnt deserve to get kicked out of his old band, that he deserves fame, that he can be better than everyone else and in a few words be perfect. And thats what SA is, if Kayn didnt join Heartsteel and found a group of friends that understand him and let him have fun and be wild on stage in his Rhaast form, Kayn would have probably rejected Rhaast, seeing him as the reason of his failures as an artist and fully focus on the rational and techincal part of himself, striving for ultimate perfection. So we got a Kayn that followed completely this path and became as he says himself "the perfect performer", he trained his whole life for this, thats why his ego is so big, thats why he doesnt joke around like Rhaast, he stopped seeing music as something fun and started seeing it as a way to show that he can rise above everyone else.
I think people who underestimate this skins forms and label them as "low-effort" didnt give a single tought about how well they managed to portray Kayn in a completely different scenario of what were used to. I love Odissey, its been my favourite skin in the game since release, but as insane as it is, it just takes Kayns base concept and improves it a lot setting it in a better scenario, with better voicelines, interactions, ecc without really taking the extra step of exploring further possibilities of what Kayn and Rhaast could be.
Thats why even tough I still dont know if this skin is gonna replace Odisseys spost in my heart, and I like Odisseys voicelines more, I appreciate so much the work Riot has done to create this new version of Kayn. I think we Kayn mains are so lucky that we got so much love and effort put in the skins for our champion and we got so used to be one of Riots favourite babies that we stopped being thankful for it and started focusing only on the small things that we dont fully appreciate.
As a last note: skins have a maximum of memory they can occupy and its not really high, since those have to be shown in game even if someone is playing on the potatoest pc ever, so if something you wanted is not in this skin that you think it could have been "easy to add", they probably tought about it, but decided there were more important features that needed that memory space.
Great comment, I definitely agree with your analysis.
What I also really like about the new skin is his base color being better than any chroma except for the last one maybe. The color palette is really on point on any form.
@@despawned39 I think the Chromas are all pretty good, but they defenetely went the hardest with his base one and event chroma. Also Ernest, the dog from the music video, on tatooed on Kayns chest is so fucking cool and a nice easter egg for the people who watched Paranoia.
I think the issue isn't about the theme of the skin, the idea is fantastic, it's just that the skin itself doesn't accurately reflect this, mainly because Rhaast's form doesn't show much of a shift in persona. It's like Rhaast piped up a bit, but it's still 'Kayn' talking 80% of the time. If they made Rhaast.... talk more often as Rhaast, it'd be a very very well executed skin, and the lore behind it would support it fantastically.
When people play Kayn and pick their form, Rhaast and Shadow Kayn should be identifiable from eachother, and hearing Kayn coming out of Rhaast most of the time just kinda doesn't work. Kayn's personality remaining for lore reasons is cool, but it shouldn't be at the forefront.
@@devilix123987 I will be able to say more about this once its live and I'll get my hands on it, but if Rhaast voicelines are not more then the kayn ones when you trasform it would be quite a shame. I think its cool that Kayn is still there, but I still want Rhaast to be in control.
@@Alet0o Absolutely, if it's sorted when the skin is live, I will definitely reconsider the skin. Cause the idea is really cool. But the emotes remaining seemingly untouched in this updated skin spotlight isn't giving me hope, as that would be pretty indicative of the 'line distribution' in itself, and Riot don't really make further changes beyond this point usually.
Man if he had the eyepatch off and a better splash it would be my dream skin
If he had the eye patch off plus the hairsryle like in splash art I would spend my money on it.
damn, I guess people play splash arts these days.
Same, that splash kills me fr, but i'm getting it anyway :'')
Legendary skins sharing splash arts with others is always so trash, same happened to Eclipse Sivir.
I've come to enjoy this skin, but I still have no clue what his shadow assassin form is supposed to be.
In the mv we see him as normal Kayn, with a short appearance from Rhaast (which if I'm understanding this correctly is his persona for when he performs).
Is SA Kayn his... real form? Him without the need of a persona? Him without the group? I'm genuinely confused by the concept
I'm fairly sure it's meant to be him after he's "made it" in the industry. Idk if he's still in Heartsteel but it's meant to be him at the peak of success.
It's like his professional self and that's it
It's him being a Pentakill fun, lmao
@@naii9775 I see. While I kinda like the idea, I’m a bit disappointed in the fact that there are really no clues to that, or maybe I just didn’t notice them.
Does he have specific voice lines that point to that?
Just like someone else said, it is Kayn at the peak of his career, when he really succeeds, so if Riot makes another music video with Heartsteel, or Kayn in general, we will most likely see SA form in the music video.
it seems his Event Chroma is the best one (and Aphelios too)
Why does Rhaast form still have Kayn's voice in emotes?
because he is still Kayn, just his alter ego
Cuz the skin is hot garbage, that's why you see flies buzzing around "this so good, bzzz"
@@user-xg9rt6ph2u garbage like your tastes?
Rhaast is the way to go with this skin, but Shadow Assasin looks too much like Sukuna to pass up.
The lore of this skin is actually very nice, with Rhaast being the alter ego of his hate toward his old band that shouldnt have kicked him out and makes him improve and shadow assasin being the person he wants to be
I also really like that they don't kill each other here. Their dynamic dissappears when you choose one side over the other and with this skin they both stay
idk why people are all of the sudden whining, this skin is INSANE. whether it's the bright crazy vfx or the animations or the models themselves. all it misses is a revive animation but the skin size was too big which makes sense. there's no way they were 'lazy', this skin is the opposite of lazy. insta buy for a kayn main i think, unless you just hate the concept.
the skin is insane, BUT they didn't took the feedback the community gave in account
People just love to complain and after the massive wave of crying that got syndras coven skin changed people think riot should change every skin to their liking
@@maskogrevgc2934no one cares bro youre still going to buy it
@@sscheek9243that’s what I’m saying
It's not that it's the fact that his splash and music video have THE SAME hair style, but his in-game does not it's false advertising same thing happened with evelynn and they had to change her splash for it lol and she's a epic skin it's more of the fact now days no one at riot takes feed back at all
An absolute masterpiece of a skin, splendid job riot design team!
it's straight up mid
@@huszkusz1779nah its good
they killed my bro rhaast
Literally, he's nowhere to be seen 😂
Now i know what is the reference to his dance 0:42 . It's from the goated song
?
Disappointing that you hear Kayn talking most of the time when you are Rhaast , especially in emotes. Prolly won't get this skin because of that alone.
The fun of Kayn is that it's two personalities clashing and bantering with eachother, and you can choose which one to lean into. Even in this setting where Kayn and Rhaast seem to be present together, it feels so wrong hearing Kayn come out of Rhaast's mouth, especially seeing as Rhaast seems to not exist when you are Shadow Kayn for some reason??? The skin concept is cool, just unfortunate that so many details don't make sense even in the Universe's lore, and somewhat defeats the point of Kayn and Rhaast as characters.
Rhaast is Kayn's alter ego, when he transforms it is mainly one personality that takes control without overriding the other, so it makes sense that in both transformations you can still hear Kayn and Rhaast. In the SA voice lines there are some where Rhaast is there
"Take off your shirt Kayn!"
"IT IS OFF RHAAST!!!!"
@@Themerodox I understand this, but that's why it's so jarring to hear Kayn talking *so much* when it's Rhaast taking over. It still feels like Kayn is the personality at the wheel, when the 'aesthetic/outfit' is Rhaast. Meanwhile, Shadow Kayn is like 99% Kayn. I think they should've toned it down, at the very least, given him unique Rhaast lines for his emotes.
@@ThemerodoxThat's just lazy writing for less work.
thats a stupid excuse not to buy the skin tbh
How much is the full bundle for Kayn?
Why does Rhaast's hair clip through his hood in his idle animation (hood seems very attached to the top of his head normally) and why are alot of the voice lines still Kayn while in Rhaast form?
Other than these two things I noticed, skin looks great, I like all the diff skill animations like when SA uses his W he holds the mic close.
In this skin Kayn IS Rhaast. It's just a stage persona
Ah right, ye I saw someone mention it's like his alternate personality, which is interesting but also feels kinda weird, ty for clarification tho.@@exzyyd392
@@exzyyd392 They could have had more lines in Rhaast's voice, even if it is a persona having base kayn lines in the Rhaast version just feels weird.
When are the skins released on the live server?
In 5 days
ur wrong @MadInRogue: According to the official patch schedule, Patch 13.22 will be released on Wednesday, November 8, skins drop with the update
@@bearcatlove6536 oh lol idk but if is the 8 better tnks
So sad they didnt change just Scythe image on ult in forms.
He still looks like he's laughing after he's done laughing, great.
And Shadow Assassin W still just disappears, it's there one frame, then gone the next. It looks so off, ALL his other skins has some type of fade out, Base and Soulhunter W clone turns into a shadow, Odyssey Kayn's scythe spins into the ground, Nightbringer and Snowmoon both fade out. So why does this (Legendary) skin make his shadow clone just disappear, like someone's just pressing delete on it?
You know i like this version. He doesn't straight up die if you pick Darkin
There's no way he got the evelynn treatment as a legendary skin with the hair edit I'm legit talking about his hair being not the same as his splash or his music vid lmao you guys went off on something else XDDDDD
Wdym?
eve can't get long hair on her skins because of her model, so yeah kay got short hair in this skin even tho its a legendary skin
@ Snow Moon Kayn also has short hair, they got around the model restriction by making the long ponytail into his scarf instead, as long as he has the silhouette of having 'A long thing from his neck' they can manage.
@do you understand that legendary skins have different models?
@@nikoraasu6929even epic skins have different models, what are you guys even talking about?
Rhaast feels extremely underwhelming. Like the whole idea is thats he's his own personality, he's not part of Kayn, he's fighting to take over the body, ao picking him and still hearing that much of Kayn is so disappointing
So you want it just to be base kayn and odyssey kayn. Then whats the point. Like just say you want normal kayn. In all kayn skins rhaast and him basically arent on the same team. I like the change they made as its first different second works really well in the context of the story.
legendary skins are supposed to completely change concept of the champion, examples like space groove blitzcrank and coven nami completely change the champion in total, which makes it better and more original, I think this is a great variety for those who like kayn but not so much the original concept
After getting IJ Soraka and BC Riven which are basically just recolors with the same boring concept as their older legendaries, I'm glad they actually tried doing something different for once.
youre dumb. Skins are alternate universes, on this one he is just a normal artist, but he has multiple personalities, thus Rhaast being his head voice
@@thefearturkey6944 Bruhh ppl dont get it, rhaast has so few line sin the base hearsteel skin and after he transforms he still shares hte saem with base kayn which is nothing, he barly has any voicelines i mean i reallyt wudnt mind it if there were differnt voicelines alltoghter between them but its just the same voices. For a legendary when put agianst odyssey i think it losses hard. playing with differnet stories and personas is good but we jsut dont hear rhaast at all very often
I think they should have given Rhaast form different emote lines. Pretty jarring to hear Kayn without even a filter from Rhaast. I'm aware Rhaast is an alter-ego but still.
Didnt know that Kayn can do moves like Armani White
I love this skin since Odyssey skin ❤❤❤
Final chroma has Sephiroth hair in assassin form
looking for this comment
I'm going to buy this skin tomorrow, the only bad thing is that all the chromas are rubbish
Best legandery of this year
Will be buying
love me or hate me, i dont give a damn, but dont mess with me vibes
Rhaast emotes still have kayn voice when will they fix this
I very like the GOATED dance emote.
Did no one notice how the scythe is bugged in rhaast's transformation? feelsbadman
Heartsteel vs KDA all out skin battle band
Top lane k'sante vs Akali
Jungle lane kayn vs evelynn
Mid lane ezreal vs ahri
Dragon lane aphelios vs Kai'sa
Support lane sett vs seraphine
If my teammate ever picked Ezreal mid id run it down
i thought kayn was gonna ult annie for a second got me scared
the splash art looks so old.... so dirty xdd
Why are rhaast emotes in kayn's voice?
Guys rhaast in this skin is just an alter ego that’s why you still listen to kayn often
but we should at least hear Rhaast, it's the Rhaast persona so it should be a majority Rhaast. It's frustrating to have so little Rhaast in the base form and then to have almost less of him in his own form.
Man, wtf, where are all the Rhaast voice lines? :(
The shadow form looks like jojo character
I wish it had music like TD ekko
the DETAILS
Did you hear tft is making exclisive skins now too.
when they release?
probably 2 days (8.11)
Heartsteel true damage and KDA teammates about how reaction heartsteel kayn are
Aphelios:🥳🫰. Alune:🥳🫰.
Ezreal:🥳🫰. K'sante:🥳🫰.
Sett:🥳🫰. Yone:🥳🫰.
Akali:😍🫰. Ekko:🥳🫰.
Qiyana:🥳🫰. Senna:🥳🫰.
Yasuo:🥳🫰. Kennen:🥳🫰.
Ahri:🥳🫰. Evelynn:🥳🫰.
Kai'sa:🥳🫰. Seraphine:🥳🫰.
Neeko:🥳🫰. Lillia:🥳🫰.
Gragas:🥳🫰.
It's cool, but I still prefer odyssey
the chromas are so disappointing, and base form only looks good on default. why are ruby and event base forms basically the same? at least odyssey had a good bit of variation. i get that its 3 skins in 1 so chromas are a bit harder to do, just do 2 different chromas in a skin that compliments the other. example: all the heartsteel skins get 8 chromas with event and half of them are dark colors, kayn gets 4 with event and its all fucking pastels. only the blue and gold chroma BARELY makes either form actually look good.
2 things annoy me here.. no respawn animation and the different hair.. other than that 10/10 skin
hear me out...
Guitar scythe, every hit scrums a metal note
Just take my money already. Can´t wait to have this skin for my love :D
When does this release?
@@plue1826 think in 2 days (8.11.)
Same!!!
Rhaast voice line so short...
No respawn animations kills the skin odyssey skin better anyway
1:00 LOOOL
You sing better I rap better - is that a nod to Killshot by Eminem? (You dress better, I rap better)'
I really don't like the running anymation, feels off and weird. And the fact that Rhaast speaks too much with kayn voice is a bit off too. But the skin over all is pretty good
Isn't Kayn's scythe suppose to indicate which direction he's gonna exit towards at the end of the ult? On this skin the scythe always points to the right. Also the dangling microphone at the end of of Blue Kayn's scythe is lame they could've done what they did with Pentakill Karthus. Full o' Ls
트루데미지 kda는 개별 일러스트 만들어줬으면서 뭐 이런 거지같은 일러스트로 퉁치는거임???????? 갈수록 맘에 안든다니까 그냥
1:13 "You are a b*tch"
you are off pitch
I am terribly disappointed with the SA form. What even is the lore behind it? It doesn't appear in the MV and just feels like an afterthought. The hair being green is also a very strange choice. Rhaast keeps to the original colors of the skin, being yellow and purple, but SA is green for some reason (?). And also on the point of his hair; why did it have to grow so much? I thought it was a cool idea to give kayn shorter hair, since he for the most part has long hair, apart from odyssey. Giving him a wolf cut or something similar would have worked better imo (I'm aware that they need it to be longer for gameplay clarity, but it could have been shorter still).
I'm also really disappointed in the chromas for this skin. They're way too saturated and bright. The base skin has a good amount of dark, with SA even having some black/grey. But the chromas are all white for some reason. They just feel like a bunch of star guardian chromas really, especially the event one.
Idk the lore reason but it's just to match the model with base SA kayn
I diagree these are some the best chormas on any skin i think it just fits the skin more for brighter chormas over deep darks also color choice wise its all top notch
@@Agent_Biyan Wtf do u mean bruhh legendary skins have a differnet model with differnt animations all together
@@apexpradator9625 even so they still need to keep to their champion silhouette. If base SA Kayn has long hair any other skin regardless of rarity SA kayn will have long hair. Same goes for Rhaast except change out the long hair for a pair of big horns.
Odyssey one is infinitely better. Also why another legendary skin for Kayn?
In what regard?
@@EpidemicPain every, did not stray from core truth of the character, had cleaner and more defined model, had complete lore, more and better voice lines and also had intentional Dark Cosmic skin as one of transformations. It is just a superior skin. It oozes Kayn arrogance.
@@DarkSpells87 isnt the point of a legendary skin to change the character?
@@DarkSpells87 Lets address these shall we
"truth of the character" idk man kayn being a random guy from a random empire that happened to find a dark star scythe in a random world does not really feel "true to character"
The lore in odyssey is very lackluster and we still dont know how rhaast went from the dark star universe to odyssey or why, what is ora or even what are the empires kayn wants to rule
Rhaast is a dark star not a dark cosmic(granted riot themselves dont know what a dark cosmic actually is)
Kayn being completely insane and broken mentally in odyssey shadow assassin is also not really true to character
Honestly I like this one way more than Odyssey. The fact that it changed the dynamic of the internal conflict between Kayn and Rhaast is a very cool take by making them one in the same. Rhaast being the alter ego of sorts makes it for me and on top all of it, the animations are SICK
crybabies aside i genuinely think this is the best skin in the game right now, can't wait to get it
So bad. Had so much potential but ended out terribly. What a shame
Honestly, for a skin in general this is "okay". For a legendary one? You can only benefit from the effects.
someone thought this was a good idea. they shouldnt be allowed to have ideas anymore.
he's so fruity
Very wierd skin design. Feels like a stretch making Rhaast an alter ego. Would have been a more compelling dealing if Rhaast was a Pentakill member, shadow Kayn was a KDA member, and regular Kayn was Heartsteel. Three bands in one skin and thematically appropriate.
i have one and only question without want to offence people is he gay?
as far as I know, no, the skin is just meant to be like a kpop boy band
Yay a culture vulture
Nice skin, Odyssey is still better
❤❤❤❤😊
Some of these people who send all these…“feedbacks“ probably arent even gonna buy the skins anyway lol
Better than jinx 250$ skin lol
They tunned down the sfx but the ult is still pay to lose, no Rhaast in the skin, same re-used rigs and animations except for emotes and iddle. Yeah, not worth it if you have to pay for it.
PAY TO LOSE ANIMATION ON R XDD
zeri = heartsteel kayn shadow variant deffault color
Somehow they created the ugliest and most bland Splash Art in the last 5 Years with this one
Fitting for the skin it sells, at least this time around is not false advertising.
he and akali are literally together and ezreal and lux like each other, quit shipping him and ezreal jesus christ
goofy af
Nice skin but very ugly border
What?
odyssey better
so many yapping.
??? it's literally voicelines
@@joosii3673 ??? i know captain obvious
the worst skin of kayn, not even close
Definitely a missed potential skin
the rhaast is great but can we just have a normal set of colors on kayn's legendary skins for once? and not the hetero curious kind of shit design, the dude wears a fucking crop top
😂😂😂bro this is the part that a thurn transgender
He*
the splash is terrible lmao
this is a israelian skin look at the symbool when it uses its E ability, boycot this doggskin.
WTF???
A star does not = the star of david LMAO
LMAOOOOOOOO you're a joke
What?
That is not the star of david
Legendary skin but it don't have respawn animation lmao