Can’t wait to get mine. BRN4 I saw was machined well in critical areas, finish was a little rough in areas not essential to function, only aesthetic and as a machinist, doesn’t bother me. Uppers this type run $1,000 more. Can’t wait!
I would like to see what your recommendations are for the hand guards. Length/manufacturer, ext. I ran a HK416 in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would like one for myself but I’m not willing to pay HK $4K-6K for one. Thanks for making a fully assembled upper.
Very nice and cool...but $1200 for an upper without a handguard...i know it's fashioned after the 416 but I'm guessing MI handguards won't work...which is a deal breaker for me..and the price....omission MI does make a handguard for the 416... the cost of the upper is the only issue now.
Any 416-specific handguard. Geissele, Maxim, Midwest, Strike ind., anything that fits the 416 barrel nut. Still expensive, but anything HK or knock-off HK is expensive.
Barrel length and dimensions are wrong. Nevertheless, the real bayonet lugs are like $70. Chrome lined M27 profile Nefarious Arms barrels are very rare and $700 when you find one, but they're the only M27 profile barrels available period currently. These are NOT 16.5" long. they're 16.1s. Even if you pinned one, without an extra long muzzle device the bayonet would fit wrong/look weird
@@madcatjoe I agree, but my buddy has a BRN4 barrel with tooling marks so ridiculous in the chamber that in less than 100 rounds fired, two live rounds stuck in chamber so bad they had to be beaten out with a cleaning rod. If the QC is that bad, it's all a waste.
So, there are some of us that can afford to have what ever we want. I like the front end. I could buy a few to play with. Does that satisfy your question?
I hope your barrels have gotten better. I'm trying to work something out with your CS in getting a replacement barrel ASAP. Got a 16" heavy profile BRN-4 barrel that I tried making an M27 clone off of and the chamber on mine is just straight up out of spec, hard stuck live rounds upon feeding and it becomes a nightmare to try to get out. Malfunctions are repeatable with different ammunition brands, failure to go fully into battery.
@printingwithpeek4897 A lower retro they do make, but I was talking about the AR180 upper ehich they do not make.... since they were showing uppers in the video.
The 10.4” variants run best with an HK buffer and action spring especially suppressed. Mil spec is way too light and will have the bcg running way too fast.
@@printingwithpeek4897 I haven’t handled the MCX or mcx upper in person but with how smooth my BRN180 is, I don’t think sig could beat how smooth cycling it is.
@grinch5979 The MCX upper absolutely beats the BRN 180. The BRN180 is an amazing upper regardless though. I've handled both and the MCX I'd just an inherently better rifle. I can also get a trip lever that works with the MCX to run a Hoffman Super Safety on it. You can't do that with a BRN180.
@@printingwithpeek4897 How is the action(of the mcx) compared to the BRN in terms of smoothness and resistance. The BRN is so light to charge and so smooth- is the MCX the same?
@grinch5979 The MCX is closer to what you would expect put of an AR15. Smoothness doesn't translate to better function, just so you know. Also, it being lighter to charge back isn't necessarily a good thing. There's one guy on here who designed a trip lever for the BRN 180 to operate in a select fire capacity, and you get bolt over runs and failures to feed. He ended up getting Wesbaun 25% increased weight recoil springs.
A lot folks say that this is over priced, it’s not. The resale value after these sell out is around $2000 and up, add a handguard and you talking around $3000 they make limited runs every now and again it’s a good investment IMO especially during our current political situation. I just bought one and plan on building up a HK416 clone rifle.
@@77OliverPuller Why would faxon be a turnoff? They make some of the best barrels on the market. They're an ISO9001:2023 facility. I've been to their facility in Ohio. They're applying aerospace technology to milspec requirement. It doesn't get better than that.
a buddy of mine got a chamber with so many tool marks in it that in under 100 rounds it has gotten two live rounds so stuck they needed to be beaten out with a cleaning rod@@77OliverPuller
The parts are interchangeable between this and real HK416s. All of the parts are interchangeable, except the HK416 has a firing pin safety on the bolt carrier group, and the barrel thickness is slightly different, so an HK416 bayonet lug won't fit.
@@spacecaesar7619Why are you not fond of either? PWS makes the best piston uppers on the market and dsxon makes some of the best barrels. Those are objective truths.
I wish they weren’t so expensive. Makes no sense that their uppers cost the same and more than a complete rifle. There’s plenty other uppers of the same quality that are half the price. If they lower their price to reasonable amounts they’ll get a lot more sales.
I will say, as cool as this is I’m incredibly disappointed with the barrel not being cold hammer forged…. the barrel & chamber isn’t chrome. If brownells fixes the barrel issue I would 100% get one.
Having both, IE 416 and 417, and BRN -180 upper, the BRN is a better civilian, lighter and just works. The 416/17 is very front heavy, as they are built on mil spec, IE DMR/thick barrels to make them last longer etc. So I prefer lugging around AR15/Brn 180 over the 416/417 (yes, the 417 is a 308 and really heavy to do standing precision shooting with, but we do that with it) And the 416 is the fully automatic edition. If they could reduce the front weight, it would be nice, but the 416/17 is just a good military weapon, it is not a good competition rifle. For you that have this for self defense? Yeah, 416 any day of the week. As it requires little to no real maintenance, and can run dry even with very few problems.
Very disappointed in this upper! I am returning it already and wish It looked better because this thing looks like it was machined with a chisel and cheese grater. I hope they find a fix because I really wanted to like this and Customer service weren’t helpful at all
1100 is very affordable in today’s standards of 416 clone uppers. You want to see “pricey” then get an actual MR556 upper because this is actually a good price til competitors come out with their own 416 clone upper.
Considering this is a 416 style upper, it makes no sense to not include a handguard since this platform is unique from the AR-15 dimensions. Brownells should’ve teamed up with Geissele and included their handguard out of the box. If it had a Geissele handguard and was $1299, it’d be a much better value.
Bro, if you think $1200 isn't already a value for what you're getting, you're on crack. PWS uppers, alone, cost more than this, and they're manufacturing this for brownells. That's not really an argument that you can objectively make, when MR556 clone uppers go for a minimum of $1500. These are also already upgraded components as opposed to piecemealing upper components after buying a basic upper for a 416.
Just an FYI. Geissele often has their "Blem" 416 style handguards marked down significantly. They just had quite a few on them on their site this past week. They're all gone at this point of course.
As a person thats been in the Pew hobby for 17years, buy now, regret later. Prices never come down to what they were. If you really want it, get it or be left window licking for eternity
I think it would be worth making a variant that omits the forward assist. The forward assist is a feature that no one should really use - If the round won't chamber fully, using mechanical force to ram it home isn't a great idea.
Interesting. The engineer that gave up the 416, immediately left HK and went to Sig to create the refined 516 rifle. Today Sig dont make 516, yet 416 is still a thing? Weird. Talk about name recognition!
piston ARs are a dead end that just kinda wanders forward aimlessly. All of the factors that make them successful have nothing to do with the gas system, except for about a 5 year period in the early 2000s before Mk18s were made reliable. that, plus being a 5.56 SBR from a company previously supplying a bunch of SOF and police with MP5s, basically it was a catalogue replacement for the MP5, and in that role the weapon is absolutely excellet. you've got to remember who is selling each type of rifle and how. Who sells DI ARs? Historically, Colt, LMT, KAC, Colt Canada are about it. So if one of those companies can't politically or in scale meet the needs of a contract, the DI AR15 is essentially failed for reasons completely and entirely unrelated to the gas system. Who sells the HK416? HK. Made in Europe, well made (as the other companies I mentioned are as well), already sold tons of firearms to SOF and police for decades before, used to tailoring them to those customers. Colt has been playing catch up in silly things this entire time. Handguards, handguard length, fire selection, integration with suppressors, etc. Colt fell into memes like barrel swaps and rifles you can convert from 7.62 to 5.56, competing with what failed on the SCAR even. late 2000s-2010s, they were popular for having a free float handguard and being well made. (USMC, Norway) or, for over the beach capability (USN and some other SOF) late 2010s-present, they were popular for being made in europe and having AR15 ergonomics. (Germany, France)
It’s not a standard assembly, the gas key has been modified for the op rod to strike it and the internals are different and the bolt is different with no gas rings. It’s the same as the HK416 which is what Brownels is cloning. It’s just a piston gun built off the AR platform, and Brownells is cloning the HK416 here.
But aero precision is barely a step above PSA for way more. Besides, this a piston driven budget version of the 416. You should see what actual HK 416 parts go for.
My buddy's BRN4 has a super rough chamber, and in under 100 rounds it has stuck two live rounds in the chamber so hard they needed to be beaten out with a cleaning rod. The BRN4 receivers are also apocalyptically bad looking... especially the left side. it looks like a minecraft HK416. HK416s with long barrels are terrible with traditional suppressors, flow through is very important.
sooo...its a $200 AR upper with a $1000 piston added on.....yeah no thanks, for that price I could just buy an AK. cut the price in half if you wanna be serious.
Quit a bunch of dribble from a guy that probably can't afford any piston guns. Tell me. Why are you so against them? I bet you hate Corvettes, Ford Raptors, and any other items you can't afford.
Pointless and pricey.. no real benefit over standard ar..certainly not enough to justify total build price….folding stock buffer less system like ar18 in 10.5 ok cool maybe, but not this..
Thank you brownells, I've been waiting on you guys to restock your brn4 stuff for awhile. My wallet does not like you though, but it's a clone of something we can't get here... fking hk
Be cool if you had a M27 16.5 in barrel with bayonet lug.
I've got the BRN4 lower from a few years back, will definitely buy when the CHF uppers come in.
At-4 in the safe just in case of a lucky t-72 big game tag lucky draw.
Now we need the brn4 lower next please.
Oh wow that 14.5 is calling my name
dang, a 10.4" BRN-4 light model with a BRN-4 lower would sell big time.
Can’t wait to get mine. BRN4 I saw was machined well in critical areas, finish was a little rough in areas not essential to function, only aesthetic and as a machinist, doesn’t bother me. Uppers this type run $1,000 more. Can’t wait!
I would like to see what your recommendations are for the hand guards. Length/manufacturer, ext. I ran a HK416 in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would like one for myself but I’m not willing to pay HK $4K-6K for one. Thanks for making a fully assembled upper.
Can you please do a video on the Ruger 556 MPR thank you, Terry
Very nice
Need some brn-4 lowers
Till you need a part or the new improved upgrade arrives. then , "out of stock" smacks you in the #ss. Other wise, looks like really cool kit.
Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Very nice and cool...but $1200 for an upper without a handguard...i know it's fashioned after the 416 but I'm guessing MI handguards won't work...which is a deal breaker for me..and the price....omission MI does make a handguard for the 416... the cost of the upper is the only issue now.
Any 416-specific handguard. Geissele, Maxim, Midwest, Strike ind., anything that fits the 416 barrel nut. Still expensive, but anything HK or knock-off HK is expensive.
When is the 10.4 coming out?
300 blackout version coming?
How about a 12” /300mm barrel?
Any possibility of offering a version with a bayonet lug, like the M27 IAR?
Barrel length and dimensions are wrong. Nevertheless, the real bayonet lugs are like $70. Chrome lined M27 profile Nefarious Arms barrels are very rare and $700 when you find one, but they're the only M27 profile barrels available period currently.
These are NOT 16.5" long. they're 16.1s. Even if you pinned one, without an extra long muzzle device the bayonet would fit wrong/look weird
All the more reason for Brownells to make this exact barrel.
@@madcatjoe I agree, but my buddy has a BRN4 barrel with tooling marks so ridiculous in the chamber that in less than 100 rounds fired, two live rounds stuck in chamber so bad they had to be beaten out with a cleaning rod. If the QC is that bad, it's all a waste.
Can we get more lowers please
Any BRN4 complete lowers in stock?
But when are the brn-4 Lowers coming
Can we please have these in stock? Also 10.5"(10.4")
*Cries in Canadian gun owner* any Texans looking to adopt?? This definitely would have been on my purchase list before the Ban hammer hit
What is the exact model number of the ~10 inch handguard that he shows at 4:16 in to the video? I do not see that one on Brownells website.
it's literally mlok with quad rail dimensions, and its a geissele so you know $400 at least. all in all, fuckin gay!
So after 1100 bucks, I'd need to buy a $400 rail!? NO WAY! HK stuff has always been overrated and overpriced. I'd get a PWS instead. @@jacobrohr5903
Looks great, please consider offering a CHF chrome lined option
I know for a fact you won't shoot it enough to notice the difference
I know for a fact I won't buy it unless it has a chrome lined barrel.
Not happening if they keep using faxon for barrels.
Done, coming soon!
Actually...
Do these uppers have problems in the cold like the other gens?
You mean the the one article from 2009 that said HK416’s were giving the Norwegians some issues in the cold?
Is the 10.4in gas block vented?
i have one, yes they are.
i'm a little confused on how you can "use any handguard" on this upper when most of them are barrel nut specific.
Any 416 handguard. That's a pretty common sense assumption
@@printingwithpeek4897 ah, i missed that part. thanks for clarifying.
Dang the 14.5 went out fast, any time these will come back in stock?
you trying to get the 14.5 heavy or medium barrel?
@@BrokerByTheBullet Lol honestly either or
@@AarenPho I manage to grab a 14.5 medium contour barrel
@@AarenPhoI order a heavy barrel 14.5 but then called to have it changed to medium
Do you have them with full auto bolts let me know thanks
Brownells replied to a guy further down in the comments saying the upper is full auto capable
Get some adjustment on that gas block ... suppressor tuning.
So, there are some of us that can afford to have what ever we want. I like the front end. I could buy a few to play with.
Does that satisfy your question?
I hope your barrels have gotten better. I'm trying to work something out with your CS in getting a replacement barrel ASAP. Got a 16" heavy profile BRN-4 barrel that I tried making an M27 clone off of and the chamber on mine is just straight up out of spec, hard stuck live rounds upon feeding and it becomes a nightmare to try to get out. Malfunctions are repeatable with different ammunition brands, failure to go fully into battery.
bufferless would be alot better and worth the buy
Is the carrier anti tilt?
Yea, it's the A5 profile.
Not Bad. Better than spending $4000 US on one. For everyday use. A couple of these are great for trainers & frontline if needed etc.
the HK MR556A1 upper kits are $1800
Should cost at least $25k for these. $1200 is just too cheap.
@@seanmiley6294 what?
@@seanmiley6294bro what
I wish they would do a retro version of the brn180.
They literally make lowers for that....
@printingwithpeek4897 A lower retro they do make, but I was talking about the AR180 upper ehich they do not make.... since they were showing uppers in the video.
I wonder if Pws makes these ?
They make parts of the upper.
Which handguard is are compatible??
Any HK416 handguard. HK, Geissele, Maxim, Midwest Industries and a few others have options.
Is are makes no sense. And this is a 416 upper.....so it uses 416 handguards.
Is it full auto ready?
Yes
HK416 at home!
The 10.4” variants run best with an HK buffer and action spring especially suppressed. Mil spec is way too light and will have the bcg running way too fast.
Sad to see they havent taken the BRN180 and turned it into a MCX clone yet, thats what Im waiting for..
See......now that's what needs to get done. Especially with the new LT uppers and they could solve the handguard issue.
@@printingwithpeek4897 I haven’t handled the MCX or mcx upper in person but with how smooth my BRN180 is, I don’t think sig could beat how smooth cycling it is.
@grinch5979 The MCX upper absolutely beats the BRN 180. The BRN180 is an amazing upper regardless though. I've handled both and the MCX I'd just an inherently better rifle. I can also get a trip lever that works with the MCX to run a Hoffman Super Safety on it. You can't do that with a BRN180.
@@printingwithpeek4897 How is the action(of the mcx) compared to the BRN in terms of smoothness and resistance. The BRN is so light to charge and so smooth- is the MCX the same?
@grinch5979 The MCX is closer to what you would expect put of an AR15. Smoothness doesn't translate to better function, just so you know. Also, it being lighter to charge back isn't necessarily a good thing. There's one guy on here who designed a trip lever for the BRN 180 to operate in a select fire capacity, and you get bolt over runs and failures to feed. He ended up getting Wesbaun 25% increased weight recoil springs.
Where are the BRN-4 Lowers?
A lot folks say that this is over priced, it’s not. The resale value after these sell out is around $2000 and up, add a handguard and you talking around $3000 they make limited runs every now and again it’s a good investment IMO especially during our current political situation. I just bought one and plan on building up a HK416 clone rifle.
I totally agree,a few years back I bought the BRN4 lower and had the HK lettering layered on. This would be a great purchase.
Is this coming out in 300blk?
No.
There's a special place in the Shadow Realm for people like you.
@@almostontimehero5415so you dont shoot subs i assume?
@@John_Redcorn_No. This is a clone upper and there's no HK416 chambered in 5.56
@@printingwithpeek4897 i know this. And you mean 300blk
why are they all the same price?
Who is making these for Brownells?
I heard it was pws
According to the website Faxon is making the barrels which is a turn off for me personally, although some others have had good luck.
@@77OliverPuller Why would faxon be a turnoff? They make some of the best barrels on the market. They're an ISO9001:2023 facility. I've been to their facility in Ohio. They're applying aerospace technology to milspec requirement. It doesn't get better than that.
@projectsdonepoorly1383 Yea the piston components, upper receiver and gas block are all PWS. The barrel is Faxon which is also amazing.
a buddy of mine got a chamber with so many tool marks in it that in under 100 rounds it has gotten two live rounds so stuck they needed to be beaten out with a cleaning rod@@77OliverPuller
Going like HOTCAKES!
Why is the piston exposed? shouldn't it be in a "gas tube'? is that how the real 416 is set up?
This is how most short stroke piston guns are set up. It doesn’t affect function fortunately.
The parts are interchangeable between this and real HK416s. All of the parts are interchangeable, except the HK416 has a firing pin safety on the bolt carrier group, and the barrel thickness is slightly different, so an HK416 bayonet lug won't fit.
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505 that doesn't answer my question
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505nothing of what you said helps
@johnyblaze11 Yea he's dumb. And that's how the pistons are on the uppers
Who OEMs these?
PWS and Faxon barrel’s supposedly.
@@DocMitchell69 I should’ve guessed given the BRN-180. Not exactly fond of either of those companies.
@@spacecaesar7619 What did they do? I think I heard that Faxon has had QC issues sporadically over the years.
@@spacecaesar7619Why are you not fond of either? PWS makes the best piston uppers on the market and dsxon makes some of the best barrels. Those are objective truths.
@@DocMitchell69They never did.
We want a CHF CL barrel
sadly, nefarious arms is the only current hk416 profile option im aware of
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505I don’t believe those are CHF though
Those look fantastic.
I'll take one for testing purposes.
Feel free to just go an ahead and send one to me right now...
the receivers are REALLY bad.
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505why is that? I'm not very familiar with them.
Make an 11.5 and I’d buy it yesterday
11.5" is better on a traditional DI AR, but HK did specific design work around the 10.4" to make it work.
@@Scott-qq9jd the a5 variant is an 11” barrel
Or just get the 14.5/16” and just have it cut and threaded?
now they just need an M27 clone upper
Can't wait till these are 599 at PSA 416 clone ..lol ..cause it be here in year
They're not going to do that
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I wish they weren’t so expensive. Makes no sense that their uppers cost the same and more than a complete rifle. There’s plenty other uppers of the same quality that are half the price. If they lower their price to reasonable amounts they’ll get a lot more sales.
This is s clone of a HK416 upper, which they start at $3k, just for perspective.
How do you consider an upper like this, expensive?
I will say, as cool as this is I’m incredibly disappointed with the barrel not being cold hammer forged…. the barrel & chamber isn’t chrome. If brownells fixes the barrel issue I would 100% get one.
Bro, it's a nitrided barrel. It works as a shoot able barrel.
The BRn-180 is it better bang for your buck for a piston upper IMO, cheaper too. I little overpriced if I may say
But how you going to do an HK-416 clone with that!?
Having both, IE 416 and 417, and BRN -180 upper, the BRN is a better civilian, lighter and just works. The 416/17 is very front heavy, as they are built on mil spec, IE DMR/thick barrels to make them last longer etc. So I prefer lugging around AR15/Brn 180 over the 416/417 (yes, the 417 is a 308 and really heavy to do standing precision shooting with, but we do that with it) And the 416 is the fully automatic edition.
If they could reduce the front weight, it would be nice, but the 416/17 is just a good military weapon, it is not a good competition rifle.
For you that have this for self defense? Yeah, 416 any day of the week. As it requires little to no real maintenance, and can run dry even with very few problems.
I wish they did an actual 180 clone
Not over priced at all
@@josephbeal7975buy a sig 516 2nd hand
Very disappointed in this upper! I am returning it already and wish It looked better because this thing looks like it was machined with a chisel and cheese grater. I hope they find a fix because I really wanted to like this and Customer service weren’t helpful at all
Holy good Lord are those expensive 😢😅😂
You should see what the real HK parts cost. 🤯
Very nice but boy, those are pricy… 💵
1100 is very affordable in today’s standards of 416 clone uppers. You want to see “pricey” then get an actual MR556 upper because this is actually a good price til competitors come out with their own 416 clone upper.
Considering this is a 416 style upper, it makes no sense to not include a handguard since this platform is unique from the AR-15 dimensions. Brownells should’ve teamed up with Geissele and included their handguard out of the box. If it had a Geissele handguard and was $1299, it’d be a much better value.
That's a Geissele barel nut lol.
Bro, if you think $1200 isn't already a value for what you're getting, you're on crack. PWS uppers, alone, cost more than this, and they're manufacturing this for brownells. That's not really an argument that you can objectively make, when MR556 clone uppers go for a minimum of $1500. These are also already upgraded components as opposed to piecemealing upper components after buying a basic upper for a 416.
Just an FYI. Geissele often has their "Blem" 416 style handguards marked down significantly. They just had quite a few on them on their site this past week. They're all gone at this point of course.
As a person thats been in the Pew hobby for 17years, buy now, regret later. Prices never come down to what they were. If you really want it, get it or be left window licking for eternity
Geissele copied the HK design, this is an HK (spec) barrel nut. They're all made of schedule 40 pipe@@MyndlessMayhem
Here is what you need to know. They made 6 of each, and they're already sold out. Next restock 2032.
Hundreds of each and still very much in production with more variants coming soon, that's what you need to know.
I think it would be worth making a variant that omits the forward assist. The forward assist is a feature that no one should really use - If the round won't chamber fully, using mechanical force to ram it home isn't a great idea.
A BRN-4 upper for less than $1,000 would be cool, too! Especially considering it doesn't ship with a handguard 🙄
May as well charge $10,000.
That makes no sense.
$1,200 for an incomplete upper with a pistol length barrel? Who would buy that?
What do you mean incomplete? All you need is a muzzle device and handguard. It’s got the BCG, dust cover, and charging handle.
10.4” on the way. The rail and flash hider woulda got tossed onto tacswap anyways.
Interesting. The engineer that gave up the 416, immediately left HK and went to Sig to create the refined 516 rifle.
Today Sig dont make 516, yet 416 is still a thing? Weird.
Talk about name recognition!
piston ARs are a dead end that just kinda wanders forward aimlessly. All of the factors that make them successful have nothing to do with the gas system, except for about a 5 year period in the early 2000s before Mk18s were made reliable.
that, plus being a 5.56 SBR from a company previously supplying a bunch of SOF and police with MP5s, basically it was a catalogue replacement for the MP5, and in that role the weapon is absolutely excellet.
you've got to remember who is selling each type of rifle and how.
Who sells DI ARs? Historically, Colt, LMT, KAC, Colt Canada are about it. So if one of those companies can't politically or in scale meet the needs of a contract, the DI AR15 is essentially failed for reasons completely and entirely unrelated to the gas system.
Who sells the HK416? HK. Made in Europe, well made (as the other companies I mentioned are as well), already sold tons of firearms to SOF and police for decades before, used to tailoring them to those customers.
Colt has been playing catch up in silly things this entire time. Handguards, handguard length, fire selection, integration with suppressors, etc. Colt fell into memes like barrel swaps and rifles you can convert from 7.62 to 5.56, competing with what failed on the SCAR even.
late 2000s-2010s, they were popular for having a free float handguard and being well made. (USMC, Norway)
or, for over the beach capability (USN and some other SOF)
late 2010s-present, they were popular for being made in europe and having AR15 ergonomics. (Germany, France)
Something between 10.4 and 14.5 would be nice for us weirdos
Like a 13.9? 😉
@@brownells
No, like a 12.5”.
You all are making me broke
What's the point of a standard ar bolt assembly when you're not using the direct impingement gas system?
It's not standard. The op rod hits a solid extension, not a standard gas key.
It’s not a standard assembly, the gas key has been modified for the op rod to strike it and the internals are different and the bolt is different with no gas rings. It’s the same as the HK416 which is what Brownels is cloning. It’s just a piston gun built off the AR platform, and Brownells is cloning the HK416 here.
Bro.....are you serious.
That's high.
Not for a high quality piston upper let alone a 416 upper. Perspective is everything.
You're high.
I can get a Daniel Defense upper completely furnished for a few hundred dollars more 😂
DD dosent make 416 clones. 416 uppers start around 3k on the low end.
@@brownells I stand corrected, appreciate the knowledge 🙏
What about a side charger model?
this is a hk416 clone, there is no side charger...
@@haruthewhiteninja Sure, its very similar but a side charger would be a nice option for those that hate the "T" handle
@@frankbrowning328 That is literally one of the dumbest comments about an HK416 clone upper.
@@printingwithpeek4897 You must be a T handle lover. Im not
@@frankbrowning328 No. I'm just a common sense user.
Holy cow those are expensive!
Aero precision complete uppers cost much less.
But aero precision is barely a step above PSA for way more. Besides, this a piston driven budget version of the 416. You should see what actual HK 416 parts go for.
piston upper, you are paying for extra parts
🤡🤣
This is an HK416 clone rifle. How dumb are you?
Shut up and take my money
why would any one in there right mind pay over $1k for a upper?????????????????!
Out of stock
damn you brownells, i will never save money if you keep offering products like this
1200 bucks. Bet you don’t sell many of those.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Bet the first batch sold out in 24hrs.
@@brownells They already sold out
I want to see a legit test where you shoot 1,000 rounds with Db meter without malfunctions.
How would a DB meter show you the reliability of something working when you're focus on function not sound?🤦♂️
Can't wait to hear your explanation on the correlation between sound and reliability.
@billydanzz He probably meant he wanted to see it shoot 1k suppressed. That would make sense but the way that he said it is stupid.
My buddy's BRN4 has a super rough chamber, and in under 100 rounds it has stuck two live rounds in the chamber so hard they needed to be beaten out with a cleaning rod.
The BRN4 receivers are also apocalyptically bad looking... especially the left side. it looks like a minecraft HK416.
HK416s with long barrels are terrible with traditional suppressors, flow through is very important.
Hell no. The prices are stupid
Compared to other 416's? These are about 2k less, so you're correct, prices are stupid low!
No. You are.
Pricey and parts availability is going to suck so im out...
If you think 1.2k is expensive for a 416 upper, you're an idiot.
A bit pricey.
Not for a 416 upgraded upper it isnt.
Buy a real HK-416 then buuuuud
Go being poor somewhere else 😂
No it isn't ☠️
Don't get me wrong, 1200 for an upper isn't *cheap,* but unironically that's an incredible deal for what these things are.
Meh
sooo...its a $200 AR upper with a $1000 piston added on.....yeah no thanks, for that price I could just buy an AK.
cut the price in half if you wanna be serious.
Youre an idiot.
Oof yall are proud of a stripped down upper for 1200$
Stop talking.
Pay to play in the piston game
Where else are you going to get a semi complete upper for that price for an HK-416? If you aren’t willing to buy it why do you care 🤣
It’s complete. Why charge $1500 for a muzzle device and rail that 99.999% of customers are going to change out.
Quit a bunch of dribble from a guy that probably can't afford any piston guns.
Tell me. Why are you so against them? I bet you hate Corvettes, Ford Raptors, and any other items you can't afford.
Pointless and pricey.. no real benefit over standard ar..certainly not enough to justify total build price….folding stock buffer less system like ar18 in 10.5 ok cool maybe, but not this..
Thank you brownells, I've been waiting on you guys to restock your brn4 stuff for awhile. My wallet does not like you though, but it's a clone of something we can't get here... fking hk