most of the time, jimin and jungkook who's always getting injured, they are always going hard on theirselves not knowing they already give enough to armys🥺
The reason why jungkook is usually the one who get injured is because is always goes very hard during performances cause he knows that the fans paid money to see a performance not him slacking off plus during tour he knows that he only has a day for every location on the tour schedule so he performs extra hard cause he won't get to see them again until there next tour so he always wants armys to see him at his best.
All members give their best as possible but Jk and jimin get a little too excited...they should keep it in control as Jhope stated overworking may affect later in long run, they perform in too sprint forgetting the consequences the team could face. Sometimes its ok but every time is what must be taken care of for their own health.
I agree with the other comments here - Jimin and Jungkook get praised the most for dancing, but they really should be following J-Hope’s lead for sustainability (which he has mentioned to them). They perform as if it is a sprint, which in the long run, is not sustainable for proper healing and performing long-term. In a way, I am not surprised with Jimin’s comment about one day seeing the end of BTS; he said it may likely be because of physical exhaustion and batteries running out.
lol in no way it is jimin or jungkook's fault, all the fault goes to the company for overworking them, periodt. stop blaming them for thing they have no power over. useless company stans always blaming the boys
@Noemy that’s one of the dumbest comments have seen in a while. Like you make is sound like BTS does not get a say with what happens with them. BTS are grown ass men and they love performing so much they exhaust themselves. And the comments about hobi is right. Hobi told that they really need to learn to pace themselves.
Yes I agree with you,, as much as they don’t even realize they’re doing it especially since they’re so worried about giving us an amazing show,, hobi is a wonderful hyung to be there to remind them to slow down.
@@1995PJM I get why you’re upset, you are overprotective. But ask yourself this: why doesn’t J-Hope or Jin or V get severe body injuries? They all perform the SAME choreography, don’t they? J-Hope knows how to pace himself, is in the dance line AND he was a competitive street dancer before BTS! And J-Hope did tell Jungkook (and Jimin was there) that professionals know how to pace themselves. Read the comments here. The majority of people agree that Jimin and Jungkook work really hard for a good show, but it is at a cost.
It really breaks my heart knowing that they are pushing themselves and doing so much sacrifices, just to make us happy. They are still a human after all. Our kings must have their longest rest.
They really do push themselves really hard even if they're hurt because of us. And they beat themselves up when they're hurt (even though it's not their fault). THEY REALLY ARE KINGS!!
The clips with Jungkook fainting, breathing with the dispenser and in the wheel chair are around the same time. He cut his foot in their first UK concert, during his last practice. The ones with him having issues breathing is when he was sick. The performances were they lay back when they are done with IDOL is at award shows, the camera s off of them so they just lay in the floor. Jungkook lost his footing was also an award show and he was sick, and they had just got done performing 2-3 songs with intense choreography. They are all hard on themselves, Jimin and Jungkook go so hard that they get hurt the most. The other members are always telling them to slow down. The tape is muscle support, kind of like an ace bandage. They wrap it around muscles that are sore to give those muscles support, while they hurt.
Jungkook wasn’t just sick at the award show where they leaned back from the end of idol... he passed out walking from the stage after performing near the stairs... he almost passed out on stage... he fell forward on the picture bc his body is overworked and exhausted like they all are.. everyone knows jungkook is known for his stamina and stability. They gave him those little packets that they use wake people up if the pass out... smelling salts jolt your senses and give you a surge of adrenaline.. this would keep him from passing out. Even when they accepted the award he was all wobbly and if you watch him... he’s not exactly acting like his normal self... he’s kinda stumbling around sometimes and then jumping the next... easy to tell that he’s not okay.. but even for the encore he stayed out there and danced and sang his little heart out ... sometimes jumping and sometimes stumbling. It’s hard to watch them like this bc it’s not something they want us to see usually... it’s nuts that leaving a stage after a performance where they finished so powerfully and all smiles and I love you’s and as soon as they step off stage they release and will oftentimes collapse. .. it’s crazy to me how well they all hide it... just makes you appreciate what they do even more!!!
@@blarmy827 YES! It’s crazy, and I hate to see them like this🥺.You know the famous line from Friends ”We’re on a break!”? That’s what I want to scream at people when they expect the boys to never be tired, or sick, etc.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually not only jk Jimin also got injured and exhausted many times there are not that many videos of it bcz it was pretty bad Jimin fainted so many times before Once he almost hit his head as he felt from the stage unconscious All of them are hard working
One time an online community post gained attention for a specific scene from BTS’s newest docu-series, BREAK THE SILENCE. The scene revealed the members performing hard on stage (the song being performed was “IDOL”) while staff members were underneath, holding up the platform.The boys were performing so hard on stage that the stage itself was shakingAlthough it was risky and dangerous to stand underneath the stage, the staff members continued to work together to hold the platform up until the performance ended.The next performance was “Save Me” and staff members let members know to be careful and to dance lightly as it could be dangerousThis short scene revealed just how hard BTS and the staff work together in order to create an amazing experience for the fans. Imagine tho if the stage broke it will be the saddest moment of my life
Jungkooks heel injury happened only once, but the showed a lot of separate clips of the same injury. In this video there were three jungkook moments included. 1. Heel injury - he cut himself while worming up before the show (first time in Wembley Stadium - Love Yourself Tour Oct 2018) he had to have stitches and could only sit on a stool during the concert and barely join anything on foot. He was out for choreo several months after that. 2. He basically fainted from exhaustion - it was hot and jk just gave to much of himself (during Wings Tour in Manila May 2017) 3. during a TV performance his had was bleeding - it's hard to see in the video when its not pointed out (I don't remember what the performance was for sorry)
Jimin and JK rack up the most injuries. If JK falls short, Jimin picks up the pieces and over does it with his body. If Jimin falls short, JK does the same.Like I've said, they lose themselves in the moment of performance. They don't know how to pace themselves with each song, they go out full energy ever single song, and the rest of the members always scold them for not pacing themselves better. Jimin said his mindset is like this "What if this is the only time this Army can see us? What if there is no other time, no second chance so I have to push myself to give all." RM even warned Jimin when JK got hurt to not feel like he has to do more, and Jimin said he would try. Every member works hard and goes hard, but they know how much energy to give each song. Even with the songs they aren't dancing, you will find Jimin and JK running all over the place, still giving out too much movement even when they are meant to chill out and get a breather. Its muscle memory. They just have to, they just have to move and give so much of themselves.
Jk said the same thing about not being able to see the fans again for the long time and needing to give everything they have because of it. Jimin also talks about how he follows jungkooks lead in performing and that he doesn’t have the stamina that jk does... and he was scared of performing without jk... he’s almost always front and center and jimin needs to take breaks more often to be able to pace himself which he definitely does a better job of that then jk. If you watch concerts... taehyung and jimin ALWAYS stop and sing to the camera for quite awhile... sometimes while sitting down, laying down or whatever . This is just a chance for them to rest their body without just standing around lol if you watch jk he rarely pays attention to the camera and never does the whole flirt with the camera thing. His main focus is the audience where they’re performing.. I’d say suga, rm and jin are kinda the same when it comes to searching out the camera to sing to it. They all have parts that they’re supposed to go to the camera for... but even when jk does he doesn’t look at the camera really... he’s looking at the crowd behind the camera. I think it’s good that there’s a mix of people focusing on the camera a lot too and ones that rarely do. This gives a balanced performance for army. Sure they’re performing for that crowd there... but bc of the cameras then all of us who haven’t been blessed with being able to go to a bts concert get to see it and feel like we are in the audience bc of the ones at the camera of that makes sense. Everyone has strengthes and weaknesses... but they all even each other out bc they’re a team... and that’s all they care about ! They love us too much sometimes I think lol I just want them to be happy and healthy just like we all do!!
It was really heart breaking to see tae when he was so sick that his voice was almost gone especially because he was looking forward to being in paris so much! They were there at the time for LY Tour in 2018.
Jungkook always perform hard .... So it's mainly jungkook who is almost fainted .... In that jungkook got cut on his foot while stretching so he got stitches .. he just cried at lot for his accident and also blaming himself ...... 😭😭😭 So army's gave a huge support to jungkook 💜 and told not to blame himself ... they work so hard 🙏🙏😭😭💜💜💜🥺🥺
Jungkook always perform so hard especially in concerts, he give his 100 percent in every performances...he never stop moving and jumping during concerts even if it’s not his part... same as jimin... I saw that all of them are giving their best, but jk and jimin always go hard
Some of the clips were about the same injury with jungkook tho. So all the ones that talked about stitches in his foot was for that one time where he tore the skin. :)
Jungkook is the center of the group so he’s usually in the line of sight and everyone gravitates toward him during the performance, so he usually goes all out. Jimin is also a perfectionist so he will give his hardest in being perfect. They are all just amazing but they are also human. Just glad everyone is okay.
Not only is idol really difficult at most awards show they use to do at least 2 songs before ido. They really work hard to be who they are. It's sad to see them like this but at the end of the day they stay strong for us(Army)
I'd like to add this, when kim taehyung had to perform seven songs in a row, he had to rush backstage, get ready within minutes for singularity and then performed fake love, not to mention both have the most strenuous choreos. he had time to breathe after seven songs and he did that the entire tour. There's a clip showing him exhausted backstage after and staffs were giving him oxygen, even jimin was impressed by his amazing performances not showing any lack & was also worried about him. Also when MMA 2019 happened BTS were seen backstage by the workers there, all the members with oxygen rushed by staffs, then workers said they were surprised of how dedicated they are in their performances and how they don't show any signs of tiredness or weaknesses on stage, they said that no other artists besides BTS were exhausted to the point they needed oxygen. They'll are very professional and hardworking, makes me worried sometimes🥺💜
I noticed that you did not know who it was on the first clip (the one with the black cap). That was Jimin - he had some really bad painful muscle spasms.
Jungkook is VERY hard on himself... they all are Really... some a bit more than others. People think he’s so confident or even cocky bc he’s good at everything and wins at everything.. he is a competitor... but they all are lol you don’t make it in the entertainment industry without that hunger for success... the drive that makes you want to be the best. These are qualities that make him the performer that he is wether it’s the right or the wrong way. There was so much responsibility placed on him at debut. Like he was 15 years old when they debuted and the next oldest member was two years older than him... he debuted as the main vocalist , sub rapper, dance line and the center of most performances... at such a young age... he is the kind of person who considers maintaining to not be enough.. he felt he needed to show growth and accomplishments to be worth of army love... breaks my heart. If you REALLY listen to jk talk about himself.. he has such a low value of his own self worth. He thinks without bts that he is nothing and fears of the group disbands that he will not be able to do anything on his own bc he’s not good enough. Being called the golden maknae since debut is just more pressure for him to live up to that... and if he doesn’t think he is... it destroys him. He said he admires the way others see him... but that he doesn’t think he’s that at all... and he pushes himself so hard to try to be that for army. He said he doesn’t work hard enough and literally said that he feels like he “should be working to the brink of death” for army and mad at himself bc he’s not. This young man said he’s not good enough unless he pushes himself to almost die... I just want to scoop him up and tell him that we don’t care about that... he matters... and if you’re not listening or paying attention then it’s easy to assume he’s so confident and has it all... when in reality he’s still a scared young boy who has such low self esteem and that to me is devastating. It’s why his demo for “decalcomania” of his stopped me in my tracks when I heard the lyrics.... bc it’s him describing this same idea... wanting to be that image that he can never attain... and would army still love him if he isn’t always that golden maknae image.. talk about heartbreaking. I hope he releases that sometime soon... dying to hear the rest of it
Jungkook pushes himself the hardest on stage.. it’s not necessarily a good thing.. but at this point its something he is known for. People forget all of the heavy responsibility placed on this young guy at debut... jungkook was only 15 years old and he debuted as main vocalist, sub rapper, dance line and the center of performances... like how he managed all of that as well as he did blows my mind. Jungkook was talking about feeling bad that he doesn’t think he’s working hard enough... that in his mind he “should be working to the brink of death” for army, and that he is not. They all love army but with jungkook and what he says about army he genuinely means it.. they have such appreciation for army and he takes it to heart... I almost think he loves army too much. For this kid to say he should literally push himself so hard to almost kill him self for army is just heartbreaking bc it’s the last thing we want. Jungkook reminds me of an empath. Someone who connects well to anybody that knows him , someone who feels the weight of the energy and emotion from others... like how seeing his hyungs hurt breaks him. If you watch all the guys and they all love each other and have fun together , but if you notice that they all have a special relationship with him.. it may be bc he was so young and little when they debuted.. who knows... he also takes on traits of those around him. If you watch him doing something that’s more someone else’s style... he emulates them with ease... you can see traits in him that come from all the other members. Kinda crazy when you think of it. When he sings or raps the part of another member he sounds scarily like them somehow. We are energy and for an empath those are things they pick up without even noticing.. they often learn fast especially when it comes to mimicking others. In the run bts episodes he guesses things right in crazy scenarios where others are shocked by... he feels their energy .. like the game guessing the dance posing blindfolded... or where he had to guess a member by his scent... and be able to identify a smell in a bowl... and it was freaky how right he was lol I’m rambling about jk bc of the video and ppl talking about jk and jimin not pacing themselves.. which I totally get... but there is no higher energy in the world other than a concert for them... he feeds off the audience as they feed off him and in the moment he’s lost in that... not feeling his own body giving out and he’s a born performer. For jk to feel all that army love and positive energy is something he can’t just not go full out for to match our energy. I’m hoping even though covid has been a terrible experience... I hope it gave them all the rest they needed and he’s getting older and hopefully he and jimin will take jhopes advice and pace themselves... and jk is quite a bit younger than the rest... the closest next oldest member is 2 years older than him which as a young teen can make a huge difference... I’m excited to see all their growth and hopefully be able to get back to touring if they want... tickets for their shows will be near impossible to get lol but won’t stop me from trying!!! 💜
The amount of effect and energy required to perform song after song, giving us the same energy level, is unimaginable for people who are not in their line of work. The dedication they give to their job is on the next level. Many have mentioned that K-pop artists' regiment is similar to athletes' training. It is similar, kinda of a 'do or die' attitude. That's why K-pop artists, especially BTS, will always have my admiration.
Jungkook is so perfectionist he always go hard to give the perfect performing for the fand and forget about himself His leg injury because he was practicing for better performance and he fell Please react to everybody loves jungkook by tomlinsun there are 3 parts please watch them all
Jin always travels with an RJ plushie of some kind. RJ is Jin's BT21 character (a fluffy alpaca) whom he absolutely adores. He will give this plush to other members to comfort them. If you watch the video about BTS going to the UN, you can see he gave one to RM to hold while practicing his speech. In this video, he gave his RJ to Hobi because he wasn't feeling well to help him feel better.
they try so hard and have "armys" that don't even give all the love they need, I love them so much, I didn't want them to suffer, give him a lot of army 💜
I think jimin has a chronic back pain, chronic knee pain and chronic neck pain and if u will see his exercise it looks like weird for someone who doesnt know his pain and his exercise is like a teraphy to him
Jungkook is always the center of their performance thus he alwyas push himself to the limit up until his body collapsed. Thats how dedicated they are on performing for army.
There's a lot of Jungkook but its actually the same injury ... they put the video separately thats why its look like he got injured a lot ..thats actually during their world tour in Europe .. he kept his promise to stay healthy and show them all he got once they're back again in Europe
knowing they have chronic injuries but still decided to sign another 7 year contract for us is heartbreaking. I love fheir choreographies but I also want them to have more chill choreographies in the future so their chronic injuries wont get worse
Oglądam to i jestem w szoku. Ci chłopcy z takim poświęceniem dają występy. Serce pęka patrząc na te sceny. To jak horror. Nigdy nie widziałam aby jakikolwiek artysta dawał na scenie 200% własnej energii. BTS to naprawdę globalny fenomen. Msm ogromny szacunek dla tych chłopców.
Also Suga's shoulder injury he had since pre debut and it was getting worse but he endured it for 8 years performing all their complex choreograpies. Suga and the rest of bts are so strong and it breaks my heart.
That shoulder was Suga - he had shoulder surgery in 2020 finally after being injured in a car accident in pre-debut days (so before June 2013). It went on for far too long and he kept on going - doing the crazy dancing and such. Jung Kook goes hard to please the audience. The one time he hurt his heel between rehearsal and the show and had to get stitches. They wouldn't let him dance - he had to sit in a chair on stage the whole time in the 2018 tour and that tore him apart inside. He's a perfectionist. Jimin goes hard too and tends to get muscle spasms quite a bit from what I see in the behind the scenes. All of them have had voice issues at one time or another. Part of the issue when touring is the changes in atmospheres from one country to another and the elevation differences. It affects breathing and that is a huge part of singing. Of course, getting a cold or something also isn't good, but it happens. Suga in his D-Day tour as Agust-D was apparently sick when the tour started and could hardly speak let alone sing and rap, but he took medicine and drank a lot of liquid on stage and somehow made it through. He talked about that in one of his Suchwita episodes (I think one of them that Jung Kook was on with him). It's hard when you're solo because there is no one else there to back you like there is with all 7 of them in BTS. This really breaks my heart to watch, but it also shows how hard these guys have worked to get where they are.
They give absolutely everything they have to their art and to all of us who love them. I wish them good health, freedom from injury and every happiness!
When V lost his voice he literally kept crying the whole time because he felt sorry for armys he couldn't sing and armys sang most of his part it brokes my heart that it was funny to you guys
I have just realized this, but you guys have innocent and genuine aura on you. Everytime i see you it's kinda make me feel at ease. Wish yall always healthy and happy
The editor of this video should have explained what happened to them. Such as: Jungkook step on something in his hotel bathroom, that severed his foot. The Jungkook passing out was no joke either. Watching that video the first time was traumatic. Chile' was one of BTS' touring locations during their WINGS Tour. Altitude/ elevation: 520 m (1706 ft). Because 1/2 of their show is high intensity dancing they hadn't counted on the high altitude in Chile' effecting them. JK seems like he can handle anything but extreme dancing and high altitudes made him pass out.
they do up tp 80+ shows on tour, Jimin as well wasnt able to perform in MACAU 2017, cuz of muscle pain... wearing formal shoes and dancing can hurt... im sure their shoes now are at least comfy.. its hard to sing n dance with their crazy choreo.. and because they worry they wont give a good impression , they want ARMYS to have the best concert, because they know ARMYS sacrifice to watch them too, and they want ARMYS to receive the same Energy and fun when we watch their Videos online they wnna make sure when we see the same thing. and like they said, THey wnna make sure ARMYS made a good Decision for Liking BTS. and its all worth it. Thats how much they care for each ARMYS. they want to make everything worth it, from their albums, from buying tickets. etc.
I'm glad they share this part of themselves because it makes people realize that everyone is human including myself. When I want to push my body too hard and others think I am weak for my injuries, I remember that even the people I think that are the strongest and most successful have many moments where they have to slow down as well and heal. I hope they take care of themselves and I hope I take care of myself too!
That's Suga with his Shoulder. He would have pain, but he was strong to perform. His been like that for quit a while. That's why he finally got his surgery done back in Nov 2020. I'm glad he got it done and he will be okay. But seeing all of them tired and injured makes me sad. 💜💜Love BTS Forever!!
they work hard for the armys, jungkook always when he's tired he doesn't give up, he's very hardworking, the boys all are, I'm sad that I can't do anything, they can't always live like this
Jungkook is the center of the group and he has the most roles.. He need to be perfect so he goes super hard. Their choreographer said jungkooks dance style is precise and powerful...
I am so glad life goes on has no choreography.I can't see them like this. Even tho they are already 7yrs old group,they still dance like their life depends on it
Dancers and performers sometimes get muscle tape because their muscles get very worn out so you’ll see tape around them on their backs, feet’s etc. Especially Jimin on his neck since he gets neck pain a lot and Suga used to have his shoulder hurt so that’s why he had a lot of tape on his shoulder. But the tape is very normal for dancers, athletes, performers, etc.
thanks for your feedback. BTS training is hard and more when they are on tour. They put those plasta on them sometimes to cover their tattoos. Big Hit does not allow it and is frowned upon by Korean society.
Remember since before debut Suga has had a serious shoulder injury and has been battling through it and only recently gotten surgery on his shoulder. Most of the time if it mentions stitches or JK is in a wheelchair it is from the same injury
Idol wasn't the last song of the day on tour. They opened the Love Yourself Tour with Idol. Only on award shows and TV performances they would possibly end with Idol like in that clip at 8:11
Please react to their MMA 2018 & 2019 performances, in 2018 they performed:Fake love, Airplane pt.2 & Idol(which I know are some of ya'lls fav songs) and it was an iconic performance. In their MMA 2019 performance they performed a lot of their songs(BWL,Mickrocosmos,BIL,dionysus etc.) it was legendary, possibly their best ever.
When I watched the same footage it shocked me to the core - I've never seen hard work and dedication quite like this, each member has my UTMOST respect 🙏 💜🙏💜🙏
Oh. Glory, sorry, dear. It'll heal soonest by the grace of God.💜💜💜 Ah ah. JT, small small na. 😂😂😂. No pity even for Glory's eye. You just told him to shut it.,😂😂😂. Glory, doh. It is well😂😂😂 Echosystem.... ecosystem 🤔. That's a good one👌 Honestly, these boys (BTS) are so amazing. The lengths they go to make sure they give an outstanding performance is just breathtaking. They deserve so much love and more. Which is why us Armys always love to shower them with as much support, love and care as we can. They bring out the best of themselves for us so we have to do the same and appreciate them immensely for it. Loved this reaction. You guys are awesome 💜💜💜💜💜💜
I understand this virus thing is bad for most people, but overall I’m sort of glad it came for SOME events (It really did help BTS). If the virus didn’t occur BTS would’ve been touring right now, I’m glad they got to take a break instead of pushing themselves to work harder. Don’t get me wrong I really hate that it killed so many people and caused so much trauma to others (and is the death of 2020), however BTS got to rest their bodies and even made record breaking songs in between. They really try their best to make armys happy, I just wish they knew that what makes us happy is that they are healthy and happy (and their existence itself).
Jungkook and Jimin do get injured a lot but not that much because most of the clips in this videos where the same situation just the clips in the video made it seem like they get injured more than they actually do
Most of the time it's Jimin and Jungkook. It's okay to work hard but when the body can't anymore then it is what it is. Sometimes they are just too much especially Jungkook. But both are the best at comforting each other. There is a whole video names "Jimin and jungkook comforting each other" you should react to it. They are hurting themselves but don't want the other one to get hurt. Jimin said one day they will stop with bts not because they don't want it anymore but because they can't anymore and their batteries will finally run out..
JT and Quincy better leave San alone 😥😥😥 take care of your eye San and yeah, Jk is always injured because he likes to give his very best to ARMY. Jungkook needs to calm down, it is sad seeing him like that Those clips are from their Tour movie Burn The Stage, Bring The Soul and Break The Silence, ranging from 2017-2019
BTS may be the biggest boy group in the world but they are still human😔
I get so sad seeing them like this
Edit: I hope your eye gets better San💜
Thanks💜
most of the time, jimin and jungkook who's always getting injured, they are always going hard on theirselves not knowing they already give enough to armys🥺
The reason why jungkook is usually the one who get injured is because is always goes very hard during performances cause he knows that the fans paid money to see a performance not him slacking off plus during tour he knows that he only has a day for every location on the tour schedule so he performs extra hard cause he won't get to see them again until there next tour so he always wants armys to see him at his best.
All members give their best as possible but Jk and jimin get a little too excited...they should keep it in control as Jhope stated overworking may affect later in long run, they perform in too sprint forgetting the consequences the team could face. Sometimes its ok but every time is what must be taken care of for their own health.
Jimin and jk, and also other members
All member always go hard.
The other member usually get hurted too but its not show in cam or they really good at hiding it
jk and jimin are usually center thats why they go too hard sometimes and end up hurting themselves
@@ningiemoon that's not true.it has nothing to do about being the centre.
RM: there is no replacement for JK , he is the centre of BTS and he is dealing so many positions in BTS ☹️
So he trying so hard like his HYUNGS.
I agree with the other comments here - Jimin and Jungkook get praised the most for dancing, but they really should be following J-Hope’s lead for sustainability (which he has mentioned to them). They perform as if it is a sprint, which in the long run, is not sustainable for proper healing and performing long-term. In a way, I am not surprised with Jimin’s comment about one day seeing the end of BTS; he said it may likely be because of physical exhaustion and batteries running out.
lol in no way it is jimin or jungkook's fault, all the fault goes to the company for overworking them, periodt. stop blaming them for thing they have no power over. useless company stans always blaming the boys
@Noemy that’s one of the dumbest comments have seen in a while. Like you make is sound like BTS does not get a say with what happens with them. BTS are grown ass men and they love performing so much they exhaust themselves. And the comments about hobi is right. Hobi told that they really need to learn to pace themselves.
Yes I agree with you,, as much as they don’t even realize they’re doing it especially since they’re so worried about giving us an amazing show,, hobi is a wonderful hyung to be there to remind them to slow down.
@@1995PJM I get why you’re upset, you are overprotective. But ask yourself this: why doesn’t J-Hope or Jin or V get severe body injuries? They all perform the SAME choreography, don’t they? J-Hope knows how to pace himself, is in the dance line AND he was a competitive street dancer before BTS! And J-Hope did tell Jungkook (and Jimin was there) that professionals know how to pace themselves. Read the comments here. The majority of people agree that Jimin and Jungkook work really hard for a good show, but it is at a cost.
@@damiwithluv1716 For real. Even J-Hope knows, and he’s the professional. RM said something similar to JK, too.
It really breaks my heart knowing that they are pushing themselves and doing so much sacrifices, just to make us happy. They are still a human after all. Our kings must have their longest rest.
This is why we love them so much. They give their all to return our love for them.
Jungkook always pushes himself too hard when performing🥺
I remember JHOPE advising him to slow down
The one that have patches on his shoulder was suga. Remember suga was struggling with shoulder pain all these years? Yea he still dance like nothing 😔
I think his shoulder was just being held together with kinesiology tape, before the surgery... Poor Yoongi!
They really do push themselves really hard even if they're hurt because of us. And they beat themselves up when they're hurt (even though it's not their fault). THEY REALLY ARE KINGS!!
The clips with Jungkook fainting, breathing with the dispenser and in the wheel chair are around the same time. He cut his foot in their first UK concert, during his last practice. The ones with him having issues breathing is when he was sick. The performances were they lay back when they are done with IDOL is at award shows, the camera s off of them so they just lay in the floor. Jungkook lost his footing was also an award show and he was sick, and they had just got done performing 2-3 songs with intense choreography.
They are all hard on themselves, Jimin and Jungkook go so hard that they get hurt the most. The other members are always telling them to slow down.
The tape is muscle support, kind of like an ace bandage. They wrap it around muscles that are sore to give those muscles support, while they hurt.
Jungkook wasn’t just sick at the award show where they leaned back from the end of idol... he passed out walking from the stage after performing near the stairs... he almost passed out on stage... he fell forward on the picture bc his body is overworked and exhausted like they all are.. everyone knows jungkook is known for his stamina and stability. They gave him those little packets that they use wake people up if the pass out... smelling salts jolt your senses and give you a surge of adrenaline.. this would keep him from passing out. Even when they accepted the award he was all wobbly and if you watch him... he’s not exactly acting like his normal self... he’s kinda stumbling around sometimes and then jumping the next... easy to tell that he’s not okay.. but even for the encore he stayed out there and danced and sang his little heart out ... sometimes jumping and sometimes stumbling.
It’s hard to watch them like this bc it’s not something they want us to see usually... it’s nuts that leaving a stage after a performance where they finished so powerfully and all smiles and I love you’s and as soon as they step off stage they release and will oftentimes collapse. .. it’s crazy to me how well they all hide it... just makes you appreciate what they do even more!!!
@@blarmy827 YES! It’s crazy, and I hate to see them like this🥺.You know the famous line from Friends ”We’re on a break!”? That’s what I want to scream at people when they expect the boys to never be tired, or sick, etc.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually not only jk
Jimin also got injured and exhausted many times there are not that many videos of it bcz it was pretty bad
Jimin fainted so many times before
Once he almost hit his head as he felt from the stage unconscious
All of them are hard working
Think you for jimin 🤗☺️🙏
Yes!!😭
Yes jimin fainted many times at the backstage, and his neck always in pain , lastyear he has knee injury..
@@justinemma4012 anyways, thank you jungkook
One time an online community post gained attention for a specific scene from BTS’s newest docu-series, BREAK THE SILENCE. The scene revealed the members performing hard on stage (the song being performed was “IDOL”) while staff members were underneath, holding up the platform.The boys were performing so hard on stage that the stage itself was shakingAlthough it was risky and dangerous to stand underneath the stage, the staff members continued to work together to hold the platform up until the performance ended.The next performance was “Save Me” and staff members let members know to be careful and to dance lightly as it could be dangerousThis short scene revealed just how hard BTS and the staff work together in order to create an amazing experience for the fans.
Imagine tho if the stage broke it will be the saddest moment of my life
Jungkooks heel injury happened only once, but the showed a lot of separate clips of the same injury. In this video there were three jungkook moments included.
1. Heel injury - he cut himself while worming up before the show (first time in Wembley Stadium - Love Yourself Tour Oct 2018) he had to have stitches and could only sit on a stool during the concert and barely join anything on foot. He was out for choreo several months after that.
2. He basically fainted from exhaustion - it was hot and jk just gave to much of himself (during Wings Tour in Manila May 2017)
3. during a TV performance his had was bleeding - it's hard to see in the video when its not pointed out (I don't remember what the performance was for sorry)
Jimin and JK rack up the most injuries. If JK falls short, Jimin picks up the pieces and over does it with his body. If Jimin falls short, JK does the same.Like I've said, they lose themselves in the moment of performance. They don't know how to pace themselves with each song, they go out full energy ever single song, and the rest of the members always scold them for not pacing themselves better. Jimin said his mindset is like this "What if this is the only time this Army can see us? What if there is no other time, no second chance so I have to push myself to give all." RM even warned Jimin when JK got hurt to not feel like he has to do more, and Jimin said he would try. Every member works hard and goes hard, but they know how much energy to give each song. Even with the songs they aren't dancing, you will find Jimin and JK running all over the place, still giving out too much movement even when they are meant to chill out and get a breather. Its muscle memory. They just have to, they just have to move and give so much of themselves.
Jk said the same thing about not being able to see the fans again for the long time and needing to give everything they have because of it. Jimin also talks about how he follows jungkooks lead in performing and that he doesn’t have the stamina that jk does... and he was scared of performing without jk... he’s almost always front and center and jimin needs to take breaks more often to be able to pace himself which he definitely does a better job of that then jk. If you watch concerts... taehyung and jimin ALWAYS stop and sing to the camera for quite awhile... sometimes while sitting down, laying down or whatever . This is just a chance for them to rest their body without just standing around lol if you watch jk he rarely pays attention to the camera and never does the whole flirt with the camera thing. His main focus is the audience where they’re performing.. I’d say suga, rm and jin are kinda the same when it comes to searching out the camera to sing to it. They all have parts that they’re supposed to go to the camera for... but even when jk does he doesn’t look at the camera really... he’s looking at the crowd behind the camera.
I think it’s good that there’s a mix of people focusing on the camera a lot too and ones that rarely do. This gives a balanced performance for army. Sure they’re performing for that crowd there... but bc of the cameras then all of us who haven’t been blessed with being able to go to a bts concert get to see it and feel like we are in the audience bc of the ones at the camera of that makes sense. Everyone has strengthes and weaknesses... but they all even each other out bc they’re a team... and that’s all they care about ! They love us too much sometimes I think lol I just want them to be happy and healthy just like we all do!!
It was really heart breaking to see tae when he was so sick that his voice was almost gone especially because he was looking forward to being in paris so much! They were there at the time for LY Tour in 2018.
Hiiiiiii you changed the the place 😲it’s beautiful 🤩 👌🏻
Jungkook always perform hard .... So it's mainly jungkook who is almost fainted .... In that jungkook got cut on his foot while stretching so he got stitches .. he just cried at lot for his accident and also blaming himself ...... 😭😭😭 So army's gave a huge support to jungkook 💜 and told not to blame himself ... they work so hard 🙏🙏😭😭💜💜💜🥺🥺
Jungkook always perform so hard especially in concerts, he give his 100 percent in every performances...he never stop moving and jumping during concerts even if it’s not his part... same as jimin... I saw that all of them are giving their best, but jk and jimin always go hard
Some of the clips were about the same injury with jungkook tho. So all the ones that talked about stitches in his foot was for that one time where he tore the skin. :)
Jungkook is the center of the group so he’s usually in the line of sight and everyone gravitates toward him during the performance, so he usually goes all out. Jimin is also a perfectionist so he will give his hardest in being perfect. They are all just amazing but they are also human. Just glad everyone is okay.
the last one with the plaster was yoongi
Not only is idol really difficult at most awards show they use to do at least 2 songs before ido. They really work hard to be who they are. It's sad to see them like this but at the end of the day they stay strong for us(Army)
I'd like to add this, when kim taehyung had to perform seven songs in a row, he had to rush backstage, get ready within minutes for singularity and then performed fake love, not to mention both have the most strenuous choreos. he had time to breathe after seven songs and he did that the entire tour.
There's a clip showing him exhausted backstage after and staffs were giving him oxygen, even jimin was impressed by his amazing performances not showing any lack & was also worried about him.
Also when MMA 2019 happened BTS were seen backstage by the workers there, all the members with oxygen rushed by staffs, then workers said they were surprised of how dedicated they are in their performances and how they don't show any signs of tiredness or weaknesses on stage, they said that no other artists besides BTS were exhausted to the point they needed oxygen.
They'll are very professional and hardworking, makes me worried sometimes🥺💜
Last with plaster Yoongi🥺
I noticed that you did not know who it was on the first clip (the one with the black cap). That was Jimin - he had some really bad painful muscle spasms.
11:24 Jungkook's hand was bleeding... 😟
Jungkook is VERY hard on himself... they all are Really... some a bit more than others. People think he’s so confident or even cocky bc he’s good at everything and wins at everything.. he is a competitor... but they all are lol you don’t make it in the entertainment industry without that hunger for success... the drive that makes you want to be the best. These are qualities that make him the performer that he is wether it’s the right or the wrong way. There was so much responsibility placed on him at debut. Like he was 15 years old when they debuted and the next oldest member was two years older than him... he debuted as the main vocalist , sub rapper, dance line and the center of most performances... at such a young age... he is the kind of person who considers maintaining to not be enough.. he felt he needed to show growth and accomplishments to be worth of army love... breaks my heart. If you REALLY listen to jk talk about himself.. he has such a low value of his own self worth. He thinks without bts that he is nothing and fears of the group disbands that he will not be able to do anything on his own bc he’s not good enough. Being called the golden maknae since debut is just more pressure for him to live up to that... and if he doesn’t think he is... it destroys him. He said he admires the way others see him... but that he doesn’t think he’s that at all... and he pushes himself so hard to try to be that for army. He said he doesn’t work hard enough and literally said that he feels like he “should be working to the brink of death” for army and mad at himself bc he’s not. This young man said he’s not good enough unless he pushes himself to almost die... I just want to scoop him up and tell him that we don’t care about that... he matters... and if you’re not listening or paying attention then it’s easy to assume he’s so confident and has it all... when in reality he’s still a scared young boy who has such low self esteem and that to me is devastating. It’s why his demo for “decalcomania” of his stopped me in my tracks when I heard the lyrics.... bc it’s him describing this same idea... wanting to be that image that he can never attain... and would army still love him if he isn’t always that golden maknae image.. talk about heartbreaking. I hope he releases that sometime soon... dying to hear the rest of it
Jungkook pushes himself the hardest on stage.. it’s not necessarily a good thing.. but at this point its something he is known for. People forget all of the heavy responsibility placed on this young guy at debut... jungkook was only 15 years old and he debuted as main vocalist, sub rapper, dance line and the center of performances... like how he managed all of that as well as he did blows my mind. Jungkook was talking about feeling bad that he doesn’t think he’s working hard enough... that in his mind he “should be working to the brink of death” for army, and that he is not. They all love army but with jungkook and what he says about army he genuinely means it.. they have such appreciation for army and he takes it to heart... I almost think he loves army too much. For this kid to say he should literally push himself so hard to almost kill him self for army is just heartbreaking bc it’s the last thing we want. Jungkook reminds me of an empath. Someone who connects well to anybody that knows him , someone who feels the weight of the energy and emotion from others... like how seeing his hyungs hurt breaks him. If you watch all the guys and they all love each other and have fun together , but if you notice that they all have a special relationship with him.. it may be bc he was so young and little when they debuted.. who knows... he also takes on traits of those around him. If you watch him doing something that’s more someone else’s style... he emulates them with ease... you can see traits in him that come from all the other members. Kinda crazy when you think of it. When he sings or raps the part of another member he sounds scarily like them somehow. We are energy and for an empath those are things they pick up without even noticing.. they often learn fast especially when it comes to mimicking others. In the run bts episodes he guesses things right in crazy scenarios where others are shocked by... he feels their energy .. like the game guessing the dance posing blindfolded... or where he had to guess a member by his scent... and be able to identify a smell in a bowl... and it was freaky how right he was lol I’m rambling about jk bc of the video and ppl talking about jk and jimin not pacing themselves.. which I totally get... but there is no higher energy in the world other than a concert for them... he feeds off the audience as they feed off him and in the moment he’s lost in that... not feeling his own body giving out and he’s a born performer. For jk to feel all that army love and positive energy is something he can’t just not go full out for to match our energy. I’m hoping even though covid has been a terrible experience... I hope it gave them all the rest they needed and he’s getting older and hopefully he and jimin will take jhopes advice and pace themselves... and jk is quite a bit younger than the rest... the closest next oldest member is 2 years older than him which as a young teen can make a huge difference... I’m excited to see all their growth and hopefully be able to get back to touring if they want... tickets for their shows will be near impossible to get lol but won’t stop me from trying!!! 💜
The amount of effect and energy required to perform song after song, giving us the same energy level, is unimaginable for people who are not in their line of work. The dedication they give to their job is on the next level. Many have mentioned that K-pop artists' regiment is similar to athletes' training. It is similar, kinda of a 'do or die' attitude. That's why K-pop artists, especially BTS, will always have my admiration.
Jungkook is so perfectionist he always go hard to give the perfect performing for the fand and forget about himself
His leg injury because he was practicing for better performance and he fell
Please react to everybody loves jungkook by tomlinsun there are 3 parts please watch them all
Jin always travels with an RJ plushie of some kind. RJ is Jin's BT21 character (a fluffy alpaca) whom he absolutely adores. He will give this plush to other members to comfort them. If you watch the video about BTS going to the UN, you can see he gave one to RM to hold while practicing his speech. In this video, he gave his RJ to Hobi because he wasn't feeling well to help him feel better.
they really worked hard every time and they deserve the success they have now
they try so hard and have "armys" that don't even give all the love they need, I love them so much, I didn't want them to suffer, give him a lot of army 💜
How can i love them more thru a screen tho 🤨lol
I think jimin has a chronic back pain, chronic knee pain and chronic neck pain and if u will see his exercise it looks like weird for someone who doesnt know his pain and his exercise is like a teraphy to him
Jungkook is always the center of their performance thus he alwyas push himself to the limit up until his body collapsed. Thats how dedicated they are on performing for army.
There's a lot of Jungkook but its actually the same injury ... they put the video separately thats why its look like he got injured a lot ..thats actually during their world tour in Europe .. he kept his promise to stay healthy and show them all he got once they're back again in Europe
knowing they have chronic injuries but still decided to sign another 7 year contract for us is heartbreaking. I love fheir choreographies but I also want them to have more chill choreographies in the future so their chronic injuries wont get worse
I feel so sad when I see them that way they always call the best deserving 😞💜
Oglądam to i jestem w szoku. Ci chłopcy z takim poświęceniem dają występy. Serce pęka patrząc na te sceny. To jak horror. Nigdy nie widziałam aby jakikolwiek artysta dawał na scenie 200% własnej energii. BTS to naprawdę globalny fenomen. Msm ogromny szacunek dla tych chłopców.
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Also Suga's shoulder injury he had since pre debut and it was getting worse but he endured it for 8 years performing all their complex choreograpies. Suga and the rest of bts are so strong and it breaks my heart.
That shoulder was Suga - he had shoulder surgery in 2020 finally after being injured in a car accident in pre-debut days (so before June 2013). It went on for far too long and he kept on going - doing the crazy dancing and such. Jung Kook goes hard to please the audience. The one time he hurt his heel between rehearsal and the show and had to get stitches. They wouldn't let him dance - he had to sit in a chair on stage the whole time in the 2018 tour and that tore him apart inside. He's a perfectionist. Jimin goes hard too and tends to get muscle spasms quite a bit from what I see in the behind the scenes. All of them have had voice issues at one time or another. Part of the issue when touring is the changes in atmospheres from one country to another and the elevation differences. It affects breathing and that is a huge part of singing. Of course, getting a cold or something also isn't good, but it happens. Suga in his D-Day tour as Agust-D was apparently sick when the tour started and could hardly speak let alone sing and rap, but he took medicine and drank a lot of liquid on stage and somehow made it through. He talked about that in one of his Suchwita episodes (I think one of them that Jung Kook was on with him). It's hard when you're solo because there is no one else there to back you like there is with all 7 of them in BTS.
This really breaks my heart to watch, but it also shows how hard these guys have worked to get where they are.
Jungkook always injured because his Center in bts
First one is our little jimin... but he wasn’t crying when he was talking... he was giggling... kinda laugh it off like he does.. sweet sweet boy
They give absolutely everything they have to their art and to all of us who love them. I wish them good health, freedom from injury and every happiness!
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When V lost his voice he literally kept crying the whole time because he felt sorry for armys he couldn't sing and armys sang most of his part it brokes my heart that it was funny to you guys
The guys work really hard to make sure ARMY sees their best each and every time and we 💜 them for it.
BTS +ARMYS 🌎💜=STRONGER TOGETHER &YOUNG FOREVER 💜
I have just realized this, but you guys have innocent and genuine aura on you. Everytime i see you it's kinda make me feel at ease. Wish yall always healthy and happy
THANK YOUUUUUU
The editor of this video should have explained what happened to them. Such as: Jungkook step on something in his hotel bathroom, that severed his foot. The Jungkook passing out was no joke either. Watching that video the first time was traumatic. Chile' was one of BTS' touring locations during their WINGS Tour. Altitude/ elevation: 520 m (1706 ft). Because 1/2 of their show is high intensity dancing they hadn't counted on the high altitude in Chile' effecting them. JK seems like he can handle anything but extreme dancing and high altitudes made him pass out.
Jungkook injured himself while practicing and got stiches, it showed trough whole video the same, maybe different days :)
they do up tp 80+ shows on tour, Jimin as well wasnt able to perform in MACAU 2017, cuz of muscle pain... wearing formal shoes and dancing can hurt... im sure their shoes now are at least comfy.. its hard to sing n dance with their crazy choreo.. and because they worry they wont give a good impression , they want ARMYS to have the best concert, because they know ARMYS sacrifice to watch them too, and they want ARMYS to receive the same Energy and fun when we watch their Videos online they wnna make sure when we see the same thing. and like they said, THey wnna make sure ARMYS made a good Decision for Liking BTS. and its all worth it. Thats how much they care for each ARMYS. they want to make everything worth it, from their albums, from buying tickets. etc.
I'm glad they share this part of themselves because it makes people realize that everyone is human including myself. When I want to push my body too hard and others think I am weak for my injuries, I remember that even the people I think that are the strongest and most successful have many moments where they have to slow down as well and heal. I hope they take care of themselves and I hope I take care of myself too!
That's Suga with his Shoulder. He would have pain, but he was strong to perform. His been like that for quit a while. That's why he finally got his surgery done back in Nov 2020. I'm glad he got it done and he will be okay. But seeing all of them tired and injured makes me sad. 💜💜Love BTS Forever!!
they work hard for the armys, jungkook always when he's tired he doesn't give up, he's very hardworking, the boys all are, I'm sad that I can't do anything, they can't always live like this
Jungkook is the center of the group and he has the most roles.. He need to be perfect so he goes super hard. Their choreographer said jungkooks dance style is precise and powerful...
At the very end of the video was Suga. Because of his shoulder injury, he has often worn this patches.
The man at the beginning is one of the medical staff...yes they do have a medical staff 🤝🏼💜
I am so glad life goes on has no choreography.I can't see them like this. Even tho they are already 7yrs old group,they still dance like their life depends on it
They have more hard times this is nothing and suga he is getting heart in his arm and now he dont dance because of his arm
Dancers and performers sometimes get muscle tape because their muscles get very worn out so you’ll see tape around them on their backs, feet’s etc. Especially Jimin on his neck since he gets neck pain a lot and Suga used to have his shoulder hurt so that’s why he had a lot of tape on his shoulder. But the tape is very normal for dancers, athletes, performers, etc.
thanks for your feedback. BTS training is hard and more when they are on tour. They put those plasta on them sometimes to cover their tattoos. Big Hit does not allow it and is frowned upon by Korean society.
Remember since before debut Suga has had a serious shoulder injury and has been battling through it and only recently gotten surgery on his shoulder. Most of the time if it mentions stitches or JK is in a wheelchair it is from the same injury
Idol wasn't the last song of the day on tour. They opened the Love Yourself Tour with Idol. Only on award shows and TV performances they would possibly end with Idol like in that clip at 8:11
Jimin was fainted at a cutscene, he has images so scary 🥺🤧
The thing they always take after performance is oxygen and the end one was a pain relief patch
U guys have to remember that they’re ALL dancers! So even though some is better than others it’s not just V and J-hope it’s all of them!
1:46 Jimin
Oxygen is must always ready for them in bckstage 😔
Hope they always healthy 💜
Please react to their MMA 2018 & 2019 performances, in 2018 they performed:Fake love, Airplane pt.2 & Idol(which I know are some of ya'lls fav songs) and it was an iconic performance. In their MMA 2019 performance they performed a lot of their songs(BWL,Mickrocosmos,BIL,dionysus etc.) it was legendary, possibly their best ever.
Next pleasee react BTS BEING CHAOTIC MCS
get well soon san?
Thanks yo💜
Jk is the one tht always over work himself when dancing thts why almost everytime he has the more injury
Please react suga have soft spot to jungkook..thank you.💜💜💜
When I watched the same footage it shocked me to the core - I've never seen hard work and dedication quite like this, each member has my UTMOST respect 🙏 💜🙏💜🙏
*JUNGKOOK AND JIMIN THE MOST HAVE INJURY :( *
Love your reactions
Oh. Glory, sorry, dear. It'll heal soonest by the grace of God.💜💜💜
Ah ah. JT, small small na. 😂😂😂. No pity even for Glory's eye. You just told him to shut it.,😂😂😂. Glory, doh. It is well😂😂😂
Echosystem.... ecosystem 🤔. That's a good one👌
Honestly, these boys (BTS) are so amazing. The lengths they go to make sure they give an outstanding performance is just breathtaking. They deserve so much love and more. Which is why us Armys always love to shower them with as much support, love and care as we can. They bring out the best of themselves for us so we have to do the same and appreciate them immensely for it.
Loved this reaction. You guys are awesome 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Take care of yourselves and I hope your eye gets better, San
You guys can react to suga and jimin fight like a old couple 🤗
I understand this virus thing is bad for most people, but overall I’m sort of glad it came for SOME events (It really did help BTS). If the virus didn’t occur BTS would’ve been touring right now, I’m glad they got to take a break instead of pushing themselves to work harder. Don’t get me wrong I really hate that it killed so many people and caused so much trauma to others (and is the death of 2020), however BTS got to rest their bodies and even made record breaking songs in between. They really try their best to make armys happy, I just wish they knew that what makes us happy is that they are healthy and happy (and their existence itself).
Glory I hope your eye get better soon🥺🥺🥺
OMG San your eye tho!!! Are you ok?? Take care, please get well soon
Every time you guys said that was Jin in ur videos when you can't see clearly😂 it seems that all members are Jin😂
It seems the maknae line JK, Jimin
+ V seem to have the hardest time
in all these exhausted/injured vids
San I hope your eye gets better!!
BTS BEING CHAOTIC MCS
That's why we love them
They put in their all
I hope your eyes get better san, by the way is it apollo?
That white plush is JIN's BT21 character.
Idol requires a lot of jumping, that's probably why they're always exhausted
Jungkook and Jimin do get injured a lot but not that much because most of the clips in this videos where the same situation just the clips in the video made it seem like they get injured more than they actually do
Most of the time it's Jimin and Jungkook. It's okay to work hard but when the body can't anymore then it is what it is. Sometimes they are just too much especially Jungkook. But both are the best at comforting each other. There is a whole video names "Jimin and jungkook comforting each other" you should react to it. They are hurting themselves but don't want the other one to get hurt.
Jimin said one day they will stop with bts not because they don't want it anymore but because they can't anymore and their batteries will finally run out..
JT and Quincy better leave San alone 😥😥😥 take care of your eye San and yeah, Jk is always injured because he likes to give his very best to ARMY. Jungkook needs to calm down, it is sad seeing him like that
Those clips are from their Tour movie Burn The Stage, Bring The Soul and Break The Silence, ranging from 2017-2019
great video!
take care 💜
Hope you feel better🤎
They said idol is their hardest choreography after On
Awww, San I hope your eye gets better soon. Take good care of it and be careful🥰🥰🥰 힘네세요(be strong) [Hope I got the spelling right, lol], San-ssi
3:57 i think it was their choreographer in the background not hobi