I don't know when Kyiv will realize that they can't win this war no matter what and the more they fight the more land Russia take.. this is madness for sure
@@lengangkealin6565 What does the size of nations have to do with reality? Is the Ukrainian counteroffensive regaining territories? If you follow the main YT mappers you will notice that every day a small piece of Ukrainian territory turns red on their maps. And Ukraine is not territorially infinite, so if you do the math... Even Zelensky is realizing it. After having passed a law prohibiting any negotiations with Putin at the beginning of the conflict, now he would like Russia to participate in the next peace summit, since the Swiss one was logically more holey than Emmental cheese: what's the point of having a peace summit without convening one of the two parties in conflict?
you act like Orban is even doing anything, he literally goes to russia and china and acts like the west doesn't want peace talks. Russia demands are literally something ukraine doesn't wanna accept because they've been loosing territory since 2014 from crimea to the donetsk and luhansk. and now ur telling them to give up 2 more regions. Russia literally ruined a promise to respect ukraines sovereignty and broke a very stable minsk 2 agreement by invading ukraine. what other choice does ukraine have besides slowly being bullied and annexed? as much as they want the war ended they don't wanna just end up loosing everything either and thats why Orbans/Putin plan is useless.
As far as I know, Ukraine is in a war with Russia not with China. They are talking about peace with everybody except the one they are fighting with. A strange logic.
@veselkopopovic3227: talking to Russia makes them look like a looser (although they are in a way). So they want to talk to china and ask china to talk to Russia so that if any peace deal reach, they then can claim that it’s the Russians who gave in to ukr and not the other way around.
so who should be winning then? better pray that your country will not be in the same fate. to be invaded by another autocratic ruler. thousands die just because of nonsense war fueled by putin's ambition.
He thought he could get a dictate peace towards Russia, with NATO lined up behind him and pointing a big "nuke gun" at Russia's head to enforce the terms. Actually he still thinks that's what the endgame is going to be, it was fairy obvious from an interview on the BBC the other week.
As long as it's a meaningful talk,then the war will end .but if the Ukraine will continue with their wild idiotic stance then ,we must expect problems and they Ukraine side must expect to lose more land.
Jacques Baud: Operation Z / Posted by INTERNATIONALIST 360° on SEPTEMBER 1, 2022 Jacques Baud - interview with Draw my Economy Analysis of «Operation Z» by Jacques Baud - Colonel of the Swiss Army, former employee of Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist in eastern Europe. Since 2014 he has been monitoring Ukraine. - The United States started the conflict. The goal is that Russia in its present form cease to exist, a concrete plan was formulated in 2018. - The Americans tricked Zelensky, they promised him it would be over quickly. It will provoke the Russians in the Donbas, they will attack, it will allow the West to create a real flood of massive sanctions that will crush Russia and lead to its instant collapse. The goal is not Ukraine’s victory, but Russia’s defeat. Russie - Ukraine: Maintenant, Le Piège Se Referme ft Jacques Baud
Yes it's time to talk because so many people have died on both side. So sad to witness so many people have died and many more will die if this senseless war doesn't stop. Ukraine and Russia have to come to the table to talk to end this brutal war.
President Orban spoke with Zelensky and Dmytro Kuleba and after that, they publisch that it was a mistake and waste of time and made no sense. And now Dmytro Kuleba want to China to talk to Xi Jinping to talk about a Peace proposal ? What is Kuleba trying to accomplish? To blame China as Ukraine did with President Orban, that had caused a lot of problems for Orban that the Europe want to sanction him. Kuleba should better go to Europe and find a solution that he and Zelensky have caused.
The US has missed an opportunity to still be a vital part of world politics. We chose the wrong side with Ukraine, the wrong side with Israel and totally fumbled in Afghanisran. China is taking our place and is making itself the new world peacemaker.
Since when was the world's biggest warmonger a peacemaker? The US didn't choose sides. Ukraine and Russia didn't create this war. Your "peacemaker" did. Ukraine is just a used and abused proxy.
They're not going for any peace talks. You only need to spend some time with ethnic Ukrainians in Russia to understand how narcissistic they can actually be,it's just who they're, you can't change them, and the worst mistake the Russian people made was to think that they could manage their narcissistic cousins by giving economic preferences and also handing over strategic territories like crimea to them,but it has turned out to be a very big mistake.
Why not talked directly to Russia instead of China? There is something wrong with this Ukrainian officials. It's not China and Ukraine war? There is only one simple solution there, stop NATO expansionism. And be a nonaligned nation. So many Ukrainian soldiers and people died. And doesn't stopped the war. It's a waste war and too many lives perished for nothing.
Talking to China about wht? Don't yue hve German America Britain and those your allies,So wht fuss with China, Don't intervine in Russia's allies,Putin has never been to German or even Poland,Fight and we will see the results,just tht😏
Ситуация совершенно безнадежная, эту войну никто не выиграет, это будет так же печально, как возвращение солдат из Афганистана в 1989 году, но войска все равно останутся на границе, это будет что-то похожее на границу между Северной Кореей и Южная Корея, произойдут небольшие территориальные изменения, но в целом граница сильно не изменится. Ситуация совершенно безнадежная, эту войну никто не выиграет, это будет так же печально, как возвращение солдат из Афганистана в 1989 году, но войска все равно останутся на границе, это будет что-то похожее на границу между Северной Кореей и Южная Корея, произойдут небольшие территориальные изменения, но в целом граница сильно не изменится. Sytuacja jest całkowicie beznadziejna, tej wojny nikt nie wygra, będzie ona równie smutna jak powrót żołnierzy z Afganistanu w 1989 r., ale wojska nadal pozostaną na granicy, będzie to coś na wzór granicy między Koreą Północną a Koreą Północną Korea Południowa, małe rzeczy będą się zdarzać, zmiany terytorialne, ale ogólnie granica nie zmieni się zbytnio. Пройдут следующие годы, и из этого не выйдет ничего, кроме новых ампутированных ног и смертей. Будет как в Афганистане в 1986-89 годах, будет такая ситуация, т. е. командование и рядовые солдаты в Афганистане прекрасно знали, что эту войну уже невозможно выиграть. А Кремль и московское телевидение говорят другое, вы тоже знаете, что знаете, но в этом мало правды. Так что одни потери. Как я писал, СССР и РФ - это всего лишь список огромных ошибок и ошибок... Но мало кто хочет что-либо менять, а значит, русский человек по-прежнему несчастен. C090
Pourtant la chine et la Corée du Nord et l'Iran et d'autres qui se mais avec Poutine attention ne pas accepté les opinions les idées absurde et pas raisonnable Poutine être plus malin que Poutine et comprendre ou veux envenime la guerre mondiale il faut avoir beaucoup de connaissances sur un homme qui crois tout se qui dit ne.pas se laisser faire comme une marionnette un objet
So Russia is complaining about mercenaries? Why? Weird. Russia is the only one allowed to use them? Like the Africans, Sri Lankians, Nepalese, North Koreans etc.
It is futile to talk to CCP-China, it will always side with Russia regarding Ukraine, as China is palnning to deal or do the same on Taiwan. Russia wants to own Ukraine. China wants to own Taiwan. Both are claiming them back as their former territories.
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All of a sudden Ukraine seems to be in rush to hold peace talks. What happened? 😂😂
They had a taste of Iskandar M😂
@@ViciousSorina😂😂
They burning down and losing
@user-xz6ot7wf4j: desperation is setting in
Becoz Trump😂
I don't know when Kyiv will realize that they can't win this war no matter what and the more they fight the more land Russia take.. this is madness for sure
They do not care about live of people . Only money matters to them the funding will get stopped Ukrainians will seek peace
If we compare about militery power Ukraine is smaller than Russia 20time but Why Ukraine try to protect their country?
When the CIA tells them to😂
They will fight but keep sending free money
@@lengangkealin6565 What does the size of nations have to do with reality? Is the Ukrainian counteroffensive regaining territories? If you follow the main YT mappers you will notice that every day a small piece of Ukrainian territory turns red on their maps. And Ukraine is not territorially infinite, so if you do the math... Even Zelensky is realizing it. After having passed a law prohibiting any negotiations with Putin at the beginning of the conflict, now he would like Russia to participate in the next peace summit, since the Swiss one was logically more holey than Emmental cheese: what's the point of having a peace summit without convening one of the two parties in conflict?
meanwhile EU still pissed with Orban trying to negotiate peace
Billions in weapons sales.
Yep - which tells us everything about the EU.
you act like Orban is even doing anything, he literally goes to russia and china and acts like the west doesn't want peace talks. Russia demands are literally something ukraine doesn't wanna accept because they've been loosing territory since 2014 from crimea to the donetsk and luhansk. and now ur telling them to give up 2 more regions. Russia literally ruined a promise to respect ukraines sovereignty and broke a very stable minsk 2 agreement by invading ukraine. what other choice does ukraine have besides slowly being bullied and annexed? as much as they want the war ended they don't wanna just end up loosing everything either and thats why Orbans/Putin plan is useless.
Fascist EU
*Remember, you CAN'T SAY Peace and nato into ONE FXCKN' sentence!!!!!!!!*
Ukraine is always acting like this, making a mess and then asking for help to clean it.
Agree, and....2:30 AMERICAN FREEDOM FRIES! 🔥😄
"Russia has invaded!" "I know, better talk to China"
As far as I know, Ukraine is in a war with Russia not with China. They are talking about peace with everybody except the one they are fighting with. A strange logic.
Zelensky made very clear he only talk to Putin when he remove his troops out of Ukraine , no pay attention ??
@veselkopopovic3227: talking to Russia makes them look like a looser (although they are in a way). So they want to talk to china and ask china to talk to Russia so that if any peace deal reach, they then can claim that it’s the Russians who gave in to ukr and not the other way around.
Yeah, because EU so called leaders are morons
But Ukraine was winning. All these shills told me so
In fact, Ukraine lost..
so who should be winning then? better pray that your country will not be in the same fate. to be invaded by another autocratic ruler. thousands die just because of nonsense war fueled by putin's ambition.
Yes.... Ukraine is always winning in their dreams. No 2 words on their dreams.
Ukraine is always winning
Ooooops another US failed mission., Papa Joe is too bad mommy.
If NATO doesn't daré enter Russia, that tells you how capable Russia is.😂😂😂
Ukraine should be talking with Russia and no one else.
SSelensky is illegitimate to discuss peace in this conflict !
He's t he chosen leader of a democracy. Not a dicktator like pootin
He thought he could get a dictate peace towards Russia, with NATO lined up behind him and pointing a big "nuke gun" at Russia's head to enforce the terms. Actually he still thinks that's what the endgame is going to be, it was fairy obvious from an interview on the BBC the other week.
Brava Russia 💪💪🇷🇺🇷🇺
Urrraaahhhhh
I have an idea, talk to Putin/Russia, that may just get somewhere
Zelensky is a Dreamer and a Great pretender.
Ein Lügner uns Bettler !
Remind me the song of Fred mercury great pretender loved that song 🎵
The World Champion of Nigeria Mail, too (it's the exact same type of griff that he's using to push for more money and more armament)
Ukraine ask the wrong guy, they should have ask US about the peace talk.
What does China has to do with this ?
Or Hungary for that matter
What happen with macron ? suppose to send troop to ukr
As long as it's a meaningful talk,then the war will end .but if the Ukraine will continue with their wild idiotic stance then ,we must expect problems and they Ukraine side must expect to lose more land.
No peace before to retake Odessa Dniepropetrovsk kharkov et Mykolaiev !
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Jacques Baud: Operation Z / Posted by INTERNATIONALIST 360° on SEPTEMBER 1, 2022
Jacques Baud - interview with Draw my Economy
Analysis of «Operation Z» by Jacques Baud - Colonel of the Swiss Army, former employee of Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist in eastern Europe. Since 2014 he has been monitoring Ukraine.
- The United States started the conflict. The goal is that Russia in its present form cease to exist, a concrete plan was formulated in 2018.
- The Americans tricked Zelensky, they promised him it would be over quickly. It will provoke the Russians in the Donbas, they will attack, it will allow the West to create a real flood of massive sanctions that will crush Russia and lead to its instant collapse. The goal is not Ukraine’s victory, but Russia’s defeat.
Russie - Ukraine: Maintenant, Le Piège Se Referme ft Jacques Baud
The UK may have to cut ties with ukraine over this
Ukraine should talk with those who support peace than those who support wars 🙏 China and Russia they are great leaders 👍
China very busy being the peace broker these days
At least someone is unlike nato.
@@Ozspeak Why would NATO broker peace?
@loranmarmes isn't it in their mission statement, that the whole purpose of NATO is to maintained peace?
@Snownam227: at this point in time, you need someone to be a peace maker
@loranmarmes: nato is the one who provokes this war, she they’re not going to break anything
Usa 😂 get out
Wait a minute....russians still fighting with shovels???...😂
A taste of Iskander M hastens you to the negotiation tables
Now you wanna talk. Where has that ego gone now. Biden can't help you anymore, NATO it's crumbling.
They thought they came to safari but Russians showed them who was the actual prey and the hunter.
Politics is hypocrisy,is china at war with Ukraine?
Talk directly to Russia and drop your pride
Russia has becoming greater and greater, if Ukraine want a real peace talk then they must stop fighting, and go to negotiating table.
This is just the losing propoganda, .ukraine is winning😂
How stupid you are. Propaganda is the ONLY part of the war that Ukri has ever been winning! 😄
this is nonsense war caused by an ambitious authoritarian ruler. Ukraine has all the right to defend itself.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Peace in ukraine.Mr.Culeba--2022 Istanbul agreement(hundres of thousands lives could save.Ask Boris Johnson!Not Bejing.
Yes it's time to talk because so many people have died on both side. So sad to witness so many people have died and many more will die if this senseless war doesn't stop. Ukraine and Russia have to come to the table to talk to end this brutal war.
During western allie ban to strike into Russia Putin happy to increase strike
Your war with russia why need to talk with china!?👎
He has putins number , let him call " THE EARTH PRESIDENT "
By knocking force with powers
President Orban spoke with Zelensky and Dmytro Kuleba and after that, they publisch that it was a mistake and waste of time and made no sense. And now Dmytro Kuleba want to China to talk to Xi Jinping to talk about a Peace proposal ? What is Kuleba trying to accomplish? To blame China as Ukraine did with President Orban, that had caused a lot of problems for Orban that the Europe want to sanction him. Kuleba should better go to Europe and find a solution that he and Zelensky have caused.
Orban PM not president ...😅😊
Genau,!
The US has missed an opportunity to still be a vital part of world politics. We chose the wrong side with Ukraine, the wrong side with Israel and totally fumbled in Afghanisran. China is taking our place and is making itself the new world peacemaker.
Since when was the world's biggest warmonger a peacemaker? The US didn't choose sides. Ukraine and Russia didn't create this war. Your "peacemaker" did. Ukraine is just a used and abused proxy.
Those Ukraine minister are crazy or what
Why won’t to talk with those leader who support Putin 100% ?? 🤷🏽
They're not going for any peace talks. You only need to spend some time with ethnic Ukrainians in Russia to understand how narcissistic they can actually be,it's just who they're, you can't change them, and the worst mistake the Russian people made was to think that they could manage their narcissistic cousins by giving economic preferences and also handing over strategic territories like crimea to them,but it has turned out to be a very big mistake.
Orban a kulcs!minden nagyhatalom barátja
Why not talked directly to Russia instead of China? There is something wrong with this Ukrainian officials. It's not China and Ukraine war? There is only one simple solution there, stop NATO expansionism. And be a nonaligned nation. So many Ukrainian soldiers and people died. And doesn't stopped the war. It's a waste war and too many lives perished for nothing.
È andato in Cina a chiedere Armi ,Armi,Armi
Too late now😂
Trump ❤
New soft power china😮😮😮
By knocking force with powers use education both usually used not to navy
🎉🇷🇺🇿🇼
Comedians😂
If you guys are incapable of using AI to speak for you.Slow down the f****** feed.Know it.Everybody your speed raiders you know
SOURCE VERIFIED?
Nope
Just go check on the cementeries in your Home Town...
Talking to China about wht?
Don't yue hve German America Britain and those your allies,So wht fuss with China,
Don't intervine in Russia's allies,Putin has never been to German or even Poland,Fight and we will see the results,just tht😏
Ситуация совершенно безнадежная, эту войну никто не выиграет, это будет так же печально, как возвращение солдат из Афганистана в 1989 году, но войска все равно останутся на границе, это будет что-то похожее на границу между Северной Кореей и Южная Корея, произойдут небольшие территориальные изменения, но в целом граница сильно не изменится.
Ситуация совершенно безнадежная, эту войну никто не выиграет, это будет так же печально, как возвращение солдат из Афганистана в 1989 году, но войска все равно останутся на границе, это будет что-то похожее на границу между Северной Кореей и Южная Корея, произойдут небольшие территориальные изменения, но в целом граница сильно не изменится.
Sytuacja jest całkowicie beznadziejna, tej wojny nikt nie wygra, będzie ona równie smutna jak powrót żołnierzy z Afganistanu w 1989 r., ale wojska nadal pozostaną na granicy, będzie to coś na wzór granicy między Koreą Północną a Koreą Północną Korea Południowa, małe rzeczy będą się zdarzać, zmiany terytorialne, ale ogólnie granica nie zmieni się zbytnio.
Пройдут следующие годы, и из этого не выйдет ничего, кроме новых ампутированных ног и смертей. Будет как в Афганистане в 1986-89 годах, будет такая ситуация, т. е. командование и рядовые солдаты в Афганистане прекрасно знали, что эту войну уже невозможно выиграть. А Кремль и московское телевидение говорят другое, вы тоже знаете, что знаете, но в этом мало правды. Так что одни потери. Как я писал, СССР и РФ - это всего лишь список огромных ошибок и ошибок... Но мало кто хочет что-либо менять, а значит, русский человек по-прежнему несчастен. C090
Biden is out ,so everyone has to hurry to make peace 😂😂 coz the no nonsense guy is coming trump .
Hahaha but the warring party is not China dubm s
Okay
*SSelensky*
Pourtant la chine et la Corée du Nord et l'Iran et d'autres qui se mais avec Poutine attention ne pas accepté les opinions les idées absurde et pas raisonnable Poutine être plus malin que Poutine et comprendre ou veux envenime la guerre mondiale il faut avoir beaucoup de connaissances sur un homme qui crois tout se qui dit ne.pas se laisser faire comme une marionnette un objet
I highly doubt 50 foreign instructors would congregate in the same location.
This ain’t like kids with cancer in a hospital.
Facts propaganda 😅😅
These kids with cancer were the foreigner instructors by the way ....
You didn't see the part it said temporary deployment post, or u chose to ignore it because u don't want to accept the facts. Cope
The iskander says otherwise
Iskander🇷🇺✅💪
A Ha Ha Ha hA ha HA,ukr are so funny people...a ha ha ha ha ha ha
Pootin started this mess and it seems he is beginning to pooptin his pants.
No. He didn't. USA started it when it orchestrated coup d'eta in Ukraine in 2014.
No but Znortlinsky and Ukraine NATO US are poopin their pants
Ukraine bhaand
So Russia is complaining about mercenaries? Why? Weird. Russia is the only one allowed to use them? Like the Africans, Sri Lankians, Nepalese, North Koreans etc.
yeah bcz russia helps us to win the war
Bla bla bla bla bla bla svinjo viva russia viva putin
It is futile to talk to CCP-China, it will always side with Russia regarding Ukraine, as China is palnning to deal or do the same on Taiwan.
Russia wants to own Ukraine.
China wants to own Taiwan.
Both are claiming them back as their former territories.
Čiji si ti tako pametan kevu ti nataknem na karinu
😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Very intelligent comment.
Source : Russian MOD 🤣🤣
Foreign fighters are now French toast😂
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Lol now they want peace talks 😂
They have had a taste of Iskandar M😂