Oz Noy On Learning Complex Arpeggios By Feel

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  • @modelcitizen1977
    @modelcitizen1977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The way he blends string skipping, alternate pickin and sweeps and makes it look effortless is really inspirational.

  • @Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
    @Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Arpeggios are so pleasing to the ear. Diminished are my favorites.

  • @pritchardhall
    @pritchardhall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your pursuit of understanding combined with your comfort with conversing with such high talent is outstanding. These guys seem to respect you for your search and your talent. Great job!

  • @Shredwizard445
    @Shredwizard445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A new generation of players, no longer forced to listen to albums over and over guitars in hand attempting to analyze and replicate what they're hearing.
    Now we have YT and thus Troy Grady with an easily digestible visual format for all things technique.
    Thank You

    • @modelcitizen1977
      @modelcitizen1977 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rockband and Guitar Hero have spawned a shred renaissance. This is good for the industry, as those future prodigies figure out what they're into beyond shred, we will see some true pushing of the instruments capabities.

  • @vvblues
    @vvblues 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love that he's not geeking out about if he's sweeping or not. The idea is to get it done to make the music you want to hear.

  • @Iskaral_Pust
    @Iskaral_Pust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I can't explain why, but I love this guy's temperament.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Oz is the best.

    • @michaelreis8266
      @michaelreis8266 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Michael Ryan It may be the complete lack of bullshit in his approach, works for me...👍

    • @swaggerchegger98
      @swaggerchegger98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's super condescending, how can an attitude like that appeal to the people here? Why would an artist purposely ignore the intricacies of technical skill? He himself said that mechanics are a tool, so why is he so rude about people wanting to explore them more deeply?
      A ridiculous person

    • @pattOnTheHead
      @pattOnTheHead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      rude? condescending? I don't see that at all.

    • @fretbuzz59
      @fretbuzz59 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Andy Pollow He wasn't condescending. But he was trying to make the point that technique isn't an end unto itself, it's a means to make music. It's possible to be too concerned about the mechanics. These days too many people treat technique like an Olympic sport, much to the detriment of musicality.

  • @kevinstewart8120
    @kevinstewart8120 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Oz Noy is breezing right through these arpeggios like it ain't shit lmao

  • @adamrasmussen9939
    @adamrasmussen9939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the things that really improved my playing was memorizong many areas to play each conventional chord shape. Like a D shape played at the 8th fret instead of the 3rd is a different G voicing, or an E shape at the 5th fret is also a G (lazy barre chord) or an A shape, at the 12th fret is also another G, or a C-shape with the root at the 10th fret is another G chord, very similar to the previous D shape at the 8th fret, but with a lower root, and no B note from the high e string.
    Once you can do that, and then remember your basic chord progression for the particular key you are plating in you're all set. Learining to string them all together, deciding when to end the current shape, and where/how to start the next one and getting your muscle memory trained to just grab those little metal bars strictly by how they feel is like making magic happen the first time you do it, and then when the improvisational skill catches up, and you know you can confidently jam with 90% of radio music its like magic....again.
    Watching him lament the difficulty connecting them all hit me...hard. As a fellow non-sweeper (not a good one, anyway) I felt it.....right here (points to heart......with misty eyes). I can down sweep okay, but the upsweeps comtinue to elude me.

  • @badboyscoob124
    @badboyscoob124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just became an Oz Noy fan!! That "technique should just be a tool to get your music across" statement helps my playing.

  • @leaai5805
    @leaai5805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Oz Noy. No messing around, he is so natural and goes straight to the point.

  • @alejandroyt10
    @alejandroyt10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent! Troy, have you thought about analyzing Takayoshi Ohmura's picking? I think that he is amazing at circular picking.

  • @swaggypanda1808
    @swaggypanda1808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    First 5 seconds in and I knew I was going to hear some satisfying arpeggios

  • @sgtcaco
    @sgtcaco 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing person,he is very honest and humble about his playing.a lot to learn from this short clip.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally - Oz is super chill and very open about letting us film what what he does, even though he himself does not nerd out on the mechanics.

  • @wild291
    @wild291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know the guy but he said the only 2 things any musician should care :
    1-"Music!"
    2- Who cares how you play that like that or this like this,the way you play it is the best way because it's your way,even if you don't know how you play it.

  • @ivanrep5234
    @ivanrep5234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey troy, have you thought about analyzing jimmy rosenberg's picking? He seems to use the standard gypsy picking technique but he's incredibly fast (eg. Solo on 'Made for Wesley')

  • @MrMetalhorse
    @MrMetalhorse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Oz is like the anti Steve Morse.
    He economy picks everything hahaha

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      hes like Gambale

    • @aeksinsang932
      @aeksinsang932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya, way more my thing than alternate and dig in like morse

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i admit i like both techniques. i use economy picking mostly.

  • @DVincentW
    @DVincentW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally effing incredible blessed to learn something here from a humble cool great musician.

  • @MrMalmsuite
    @MrMalmsuite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, Troy. It would be interesting to know your opinion about the difference when playing sitting and standing and some advice about it. Position of arms, hands, plectrum, etc... Greetings from Spain.

  • @lpgoog
    @lpgoog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool dude/unique style👍🎸

  • @olivierjung913
    @olivierjung913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oz is cool , love his music an style .

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Doing triads or arpeggios on guitar is the hardest thing to do."
    TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!

  • @MrJackTrades
    @MrJackTrades 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Maybe, I don't care about that" - I love you Oz

  • @edwinmclean6775
    @edwinmclean6775 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I firstly hear this dude from Tom Quayle and I found that Oz is truly great player and teacher

  • @gitarmats
    @gitarmats หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oz is an awesome guitarist!

  • @dis.infectant
    @dis.infectant 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Consider Ben Monder. Probably need a camera on his left also. Haha

  • @FedericoBalducci
    @FedericoBalducci 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tim Miller has develop an interesting approach for playing arpeggios.
    you should do a video with him

  • @Thayne2222
    @Thayne2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oz Noy is like a really sick Star Wars name

  • @guitarsolutions935
    @guitarsolutions935 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tone!

  • @vadlasletta
    @vadlasletta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He kind of reminds me of people who say that they don’t care anout theory since bob dylan or keith richards didn’t. Even though he doesn’t play in the 80s shred way it’s kinda technical.

  • @SmellsLikeEMinor
    @SmellsLikeEMinor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please, Troy. For the love of all things good in the world...stop releasing videos when I have things I need to do. They're too good to "ignore till later".
    Hahaha, seriously, keep up the amazing work.
    Much love,
    -E

    • @Iskaral_Pust
      @Iskaral_Pust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously. One of the shittiest things in my life right now is the fact that I'm presently too poor to subscribe to masters in mechanics and spend all of my time watching Troy's videos.

    • @SmellsLikeEMinor
      @SmellsLikeEMinor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iskaral_Pust He's brilliant.

  • @gravemike44
    @gravemike44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pickslanting, sweeping and crosspicking in one, Holy Jesus Christ!

  • @juantailor
    @juantailor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @meowtrox1234
    @meowtrox1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels good to play with low Action?

  • @davejackson88
    @davejackson88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very like frank gambale

  • @TheScmtnrider
    @TheScmtnrider 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's what Yngwie said. "If it sounds good?...!"
    Organic!

  • @eddyrox5150
    @eddyrox5150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oz Noy is Fuckkng hilarous- love this

  • @Dolores5000
    @Dolores5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic

  • @austinvapor9721
    @austinvapor9721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Looks like you're using sweep picking" "Yeah....I don't care"-Oz

  • @puertecitos6888
    @puertecitos6888 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good picker but can he tremelo pick?

  • @dylanwilliams3347
    @dylanwilliams3347 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyday I hope that troy Grady will analyze legato like he does with picking. I would pay and donate for it but I just lost my job,I will donate to him when I get my life back together though.

  • @martinrosschou
    @martinrosschou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I don't have time to find out why it works..." - I think if you worry about time spend, figuring out why it does work, will save time in the end.

  • @emcg.9655
    @emcg.9655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is the closest I've seen to my own approach. There's no real formula, it's just feel and following the path of least resistance. When starting fast runs I'm still not sure if I always start on an downstroke or upstroke. I have worked out that it's always downstroke on string change descending and reverse ascending.

  • @YoYaDude
    @YoYaDude 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, his bridge height keeps increasing (low E is highest string) and does not follow the common bow (radius) pattern. :)

    • @eladguitar
      @eladguitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check again...

  • @levijessegonzalez3629
    @levijessegonzalez3629 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He reminds me of this Russian guy that comes into my work (gym).

  • @meowtrox1234
    @meowtrox1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He plays like gambale sweep

  • @MsDavo123
    @MsDavo123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Troy basically this guy is saying " im just playing man what do you want from me leave me alone"🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @batmandeltaforce
    @batmandeltaforce 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you use alternate picking, this does not matter:)

  • @Caravaggio44
    @Caravaggio44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:48 "If I play a G triad...it sucks". Oz Noy 2018

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oz is the best!

  • @Liyingbemo
    @Liyingbemo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweeps/economy

  • @minisurfbanana
    @minisurfbanana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do pick up alternate and going down economy!!! I never really sat down to practice this. I learned by playing songs.

  • @axeball
    @axeball 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please ask FRANK GAMBALE! (I love Oz anyway)

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oz is great! And I supposed you haven't seen this yet: th-cam.com/video/GVIw2Fe1RZw/w-d-xo.html

  • @mememem
    @mememem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dayum

  • @vanguard4065
    @vanguard4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Marshall Harrisons arpeggios are the best in the world amongst guitarists.

    • @davejackson88
      @davejackson88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget jason becker.. damn is right to know that

    • @tonybarber420
      @tonybarber420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      nick johnson is a beast too

    • @fretbuzz59
      @fretbuzz59 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vanguard Who cares? His playing is nauseous. Oh sure, ya play that many notes and you're bound to play a few that sound good together. But for the most part, it's unmusical, uninteresting, and very unpleasant.

    • @tonybarber420
      @tonybarber420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fretbuzz59 not really, and you must not be a guitarist....

    • @fretbuzz59
      @fretbuzz59 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony Barber Yes, really. And I am a guitarist, which is why I recognize the emptiness of the sort of playing.

  • @dlees8432
    @dlees8432 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    oz noy is taking jabs at troy lol

  • @rschelyoung8705
    @rschelyoung8705 ปีที่แล้ว

    I notice that Oz is using Boris Johnsons BEHIND THE CAPO technique....... What? It's not a CAPO?

  • @meowtrox1234
    @meowtrox1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dawai

  • @austinvapor9721
    @austinvapor9721 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't over think it, kid. Just simply practice.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spent six years on that, didn’t work. And that’s just too long. If you’re a genius like Oz, more power to you. Oz is the best! For the rest of us, there’s teaching.

  • @HofiAgilAghov
    @HofiAgilAghov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He’s ours 🇮🇱

  • @mattfetters
    @mattfetters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "If I play a G triad it sucks" !! LOL

  • @castanonw
    @castanonw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t care about that stuff he says hahahahaha Epic

  • @danaeverhart6487
    @danaeverhart6487 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You must be snorting your shirt too much dude!

  • @MusicMotivator
    @MusicMotivator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oz is classic virtuoso player who can't teach a damn thing he does- just "you can do this" "then try this" LOL!!

    • @frankcanino7768
      @frankcanino7768 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting point of view but he actually can teach what he does very clearly - the rub is that the execution of the techniques and concepts he uses comes much more easily to him than to almost anyone else - also his time is excellent and that's kind of built in to his DNA

  • @phabi0
    @phabi0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like Homer Simpson

    • @LynchyVidz
      @LynchyVidz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a Homer Simpsonesque comment.

  • @chippchipp1
    @chippchipp1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's obviously spent countless hours focusing on theory and technique. Why does he feel the need to lie about it?

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elite players like Oz very often don't think about the actual hand motions consciously. They feel their way through it. This is typical among the many players we have interviewed - they're not lying. Music theory on the other hand, conscious. Oz thinks a lot about that and we discussed this extensively in our talk.

  • @vanguard4065
    @vanguard4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you wanna learn arpeggios study the great classical and jazz pianists. why do guitarists only study guitarists?
    learn to read music and study the masters. work out the problems and thats how you build your technique.

    • @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
      @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vanguard good guitarists study singers

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no they don't. which singer did you have in mind?

    • @markfelts6511
      @markfelts6511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Becaus this video is purely from a technical point of view, you can't learn guitar technique from a pianist.....

    • @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
      @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vanguard well I suppose that depends what kind of music you want to play

    • @fretbuzz59
      @fretbuzz59 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark Felts Exactly.

  • @EthnHayabusa
    @EthnHayabusa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great player. Not a great teacher.

    • @vvblues
      @vvblues 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His instructional videos are quite good.

    • @gktde9874
      @gktde9874 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He`s a absolute top-teacher. His knowledge about music-theory, jazz, blues and rock is AWESOME !

    • @jdh3121
      @jdh3121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not a truefire member I take it