Flea has been dancing for almost 30 years. His experience really showed in that battle. Both dancers are phenomenal, especially shigekix and his ability as well; however this time Flea used that experience and played chess very well. That’s all. Instead of hating on the guy or punking judges who all have deep credibility… Why don’t you ask yourself “ what can I learn from that battle? What is it that I missing and what am I not understanding so that I can improve. “ Always remain a student
the 4 main components of breaking are, toprock, footwork, freezes and powermoves. In none of these he won shigekix. So if he doesn't win in the main components of breaking, it makes no sense for another less important component to make him win.
That actually goes both ways, Redbull is providing the platform for original bboy culture to be demonstrated to a mainstream audiance. This is important, especially since bboying is now becoming Olympic. People get to learn the culture better through this event.
Yeah and watching it a second time, Shigekix also felt a little rushed instead of sticking the freezes or focusing on the interaction. Epic battle though.
Understandable any result. I really love unique styles and flavour based bboys, but in this case I don't think it was enough to counter Shigekix's skill. I respect all opinions, but for me this one is for the Japanese 😐.
In my opinion, this is the most disrespectful battle I've ever seen, and it is disgusting by the judges (minus El Nino). Shigekix won this EASILY Flea rock - Did a continuous headspin (witth a crash), and a light saber routine???? - Did "finger guns" for round 2 - Another repeat of headspins from round 1 and some turtles...no footwork Shigekix - Complete round with going out first, toprock, footwork, powermoves on beat (1990 variation) and ending freeze - Again a complete round of everything - toprock, response to flea rock's ufo, insane shoulder halo freeze on beat, and speedy footwork with the music I agree that Flea Rock is not at fault, the judges who made the biased jugements are wrong. And everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, but mine is very CLEAR. shigekix should have won 5-0 EASY. SHIGEKIX WON THIS BATTLE
No entiendes nada, eso es lo que pasa, realmente crees que los jurados con más de 20 años de experiencia tiene una opinión errónea. Pero tú que sólo eres un niño en esto crees saber más? Un consejo amigable de mi parte, mira con atención a los mejores b-boys del mundo y te darás cuenta de que cada uno posee un estilo único y destacable y ninguno de los mejores b-boys baila tan poco original como Shigekix, eso es todo 😉 Shigekix es genial pero no tiene nada priginal.
try to do it... looks easy but if yourent careful w dem burns you look stupid you need certain aura/charisma and thats why the crowd went crazy when flea pull th burns....
leave their emotions????? wow that's the worst comment ever.... don't forget that it's DANCING, it's an art before it became a sport!!!! if you don't put feelings in it..... that mean you dont understand it...
We need to appreciate both individual styles here and be grateful to see a match up like this to have these debates. The pure essence of breaking can get lost on huge platforms such as Red Bull. When you see a W from rounds like Fleas, without conforming his style to what the public eye may seem fit (athleticism, power moves, etc.) it’s great for the culture. Let’s have perspective and hope this challenges dancers to be original, practice charisma, and be in the moment. Which normally is overlooked. It’s easier to playback and breakdown the rounds here on TH-cam. I’m sure if you watched it live, the energy was unmatched and persuaded the judges decisions. End of the day, dance is subjective. They’re both champions in their own right 💯🤞🏼
Good point. I think a lot of people are judging breaking like there is a certain formula or equation you have to do to win. Where many people forget this dance is a battle dance. Where just being good at doing movements doesn’t necessarily mean you can battle.
This is not the first time Shigekix loses to someone who shows more style and originality, like Stripes and Nori. My two cents is that these bboys can be very hard to counter when they feel the music and have their moments, and while Shigekix is always good at doing his own stuff, he usually can't provide a proper reply for what they do.
One of the most educated and properly insightful comments so far. Very well said. After 27 years of breaking I’m sure shigekix would be throwing handstyles and burners as a counter when he can no longer spin the way he does. Some people seem to think that once you’re older it means you’re obsolete… they forget the saying “ they don’t make them like they used to”. 70’s and 80’s pants have much finer quality then pants these days cause of the material and process.
Even in this new era of tricks , power moves and endless body rocks/threads. Gotta always respect where it came from and how far we've gotten away from what the meaning and purpose was about. From a feeling and expression to technique and endorsement deals. Barely any musicality in many of the new school, but not throwing shade. I just notice there's a clear difference in musicality no
Watch any 90's (or older) battle and compare it to the battles now. There is way more musicality nowadays. Bboys now have just so much more control, which allows them to hit every beat
@@d0p3fo05 Sarah bee who is close to the rugged and lagaet, only voted for them... That was very biased. I would have given shigekix winner, Bart over lagaet, and I would give the win to Phil Wizard in the final. However, I don't have the experience of the judges. Congrats to Amir.
Can't believe I'm saying this but for once it was refreshing??? to see an old-school breaker with a strong battle attitude...I don't think Flea won this but it was still nice to see
@@MatheusOliveira-oh6wd Flea Rock Originality, Flava And flow 1:14 crash 2:08 Bruce almight's move 2:25 skychief's move 2:36 super dope move 3:38 head spin again
@@genilson2354 não é do Bruce, isso é um movimento q existe no break, a Headspin dele é muito ruim, ele coloca as mãos pra fazer, em nível profissional isso e muito básico, Shigekix consegue sair da Headspin pra Shoulder Freeze ou vice versa, mostrar dedo do meio não e movimento nem vitória pra ngm, é ridiculo, só mostra o quanto vc e ruim e precisa ganhar de qualquer jeito.
When people confuse style and "soul" for just burns and a headspin. There's a massive difference but judges are biased. Would be nice to have a chart where they determine who won in categories like power/style/dynamics instead of just putting a sign over their head. Actually make the judges think for a second instead of only remembering the last round of the battle.
Oh after this one maybe next year I can win the bc one with my sword , pistol , middle finger technique, not wasting my time with originality and powermoves
It's a lot harder to commit in the way he does than you make it out to be. Burns like that don't work when most bboys do them because it feels fake. Flea Rock is legit man, no cracks, full composure. He showed it here and that's why he took the win.
The camera position was really terrible, what should the crap from the ground to filming? 90% of the recordings are from the floor, so you can't see a lot of things exactly, I really don't know what these cameramen have studied. The perfect view is slightly oblique from above and certainly not from the floor.
flea definitely knows how to put on a show. was surprised to see him repping this year but he showed out. Shigekix with the precision and intricate power combos. Tought one!
Shigekix had better more advanced spins. But in terms of being more “technical”, not at all. Flea’s technique is way more well rounded and his basics more advanced and refined. Flea won because he did everything, and even took chances with free style in the moment. Shigekix had great execution and speed...flea was more creative and dug deeper in the battle. Not to mention he’s 2x shigekix age
Okay here is my problem. It's not with Flea, but with judges , minus El Nino. It seems like people feel like Flea was bringing that "Raw" energy and musicality, and 'freestyle'. But that burn was pre-choregoraphed and didn't go with the music for most parts. On the world stage, everybody has at least combos - if not sets that they run. That burn was pre-meditated and written just like any other set combo. It feels like judges just gave the battle to Flea after the burn - even though it happened in round 2. Also, are we really just pulling out samurai swords on any japanese bboy? I don't know. Respecting the culture. It just suffers from the problem that if a younger person were to do a similar thing it would be judged to a higher standard of scrutiny. Like, we take for granted the flexibility, cleanlinees, and complexity of Shikigex's sets because he performs consistently and judge him against what he usually does rather than against his opponent - I think this happens for other breakers too. Flea was repeating too. Both were running variations of the moves they were repeating, so it's debateable whether points should be taken off. Just, our judging is not consistent and it sucks to see people who clearly have put more recent training in lose on technicalities - while every other battle in the competition was judged on a different scale. No one else had their third automatically disqualified from a second round their opponent did. I agree with a lot of the other commentors. Flea Rock is OG, but Shikigeix out danced him in this battle. People say he's a gymnast, but he does these athletic moves on beat - which is why he won last year's competition. Burns are built into the dance, but so is cleanliness, combos, variations, form, variety, length of set, complexity, difficulty and more. Cros and Ronnie both said it's about showing you can do something your opponent can't do. And Shigekix responded directly to UFO's. IDK just sucks to see hard work be invalidated because of a social norm. It's like burns are a cheat code to beating more athletic opponents and it just don't seem fair to me - and a lot of other people who saw this battle. Respect to everyone. Regardless of who people thought won, I think everyone can agree that this battle stood out among all the other battles that night - at least for the bboy bracket.
It is same like in a rap freestyle - authenticity and confidence are both the most important things. And you cant quantify those quanlities, bboy just emits it or not, and thats the difference between real bboy or athlete, art or science, culture or sport
Inacreditável. Giro de cabeça não garantiu a primeira entra do Flea Rock. E mesmo dando a sengunda entrada pra ele, com as pistolinhas, a terceira ele nem sabia o que fazer, sobrou desamarrar o cadarço do Shingekix. Gostei da atuação do cara, surpreendeu, mas não ganhou essa. Tiraram um possível campeão por um surto nostálgico.
Acompanho o BC one desde 2006. Shingekix Ganhou essa. porém os juízes não reconheceram os movimentos do atual campeão! Roubo literalmente. Cada dia que se passa mais panelas existirão no mundo do Breakdance.
Não sou fan do Shigekix, mas ele ganhou essa fácil. Porém, foi eliminado por ser o atual campeão, como sempre fazem com todos que voltam para defender o título.
Flea is a biter. Ive seen those blade cuts before. It was the first time I saw Pirat from Poland do it. If Im not mistaken it was his signature from 2008. Comon Flea...
Flea had moves that resembled the same output of an MC in a rap battle. It was based on the moment and their specific opponent, not rehearsals or in this case, choreography. Momentum is everything, and unfortunately Shigekix lost his crowd momentum cause flea had him bleeding from "finger gunz". Top battle, regardless. Can't deny that his style, but I hope he comes back with some more burns and emotion.
Flea Rock with the fresh confidence and burns. Takes us back to the roots. Props to shigekix always nailing his crazy power move combos but flea rock is a raw battler through and through and that's what the judges happened to favor (perhaps they thought shigekix was very formulaic?)
Pretty surprised Flea Rock got the nod, his second round was great but the first and third were quite sloppy, with a crash in his first and very basic combos in the third. Still, it's nice to see an old school legend like Flea even compete in a comp like this, let alone get as far as he did. Good battle.
Don't get it Flea's name was on the majority of the judges cards so did he win or not? Either way good battle. Flea wow'd and Shigekix countered well but would've voted Flea Rock as he showed no mercy during the battle but was a sport with the opponent before the winner announcement.
This battle was lit asf ! I do agree shigekix should’ve have won but I didn’t mind the burn and style flavor that Flea rock had that made him win. I was surprised with the Arsenal flea had for shigekix here. I wouldn’t really call this battle a robbery, it was a good exchange and flea rock had the crowd more than shigekix sadly. This battle literally could’ve gone to either of them.
I agree with your comment. Were you surprised as I was that the judges gave Amir the win over Flea in the semifinals and ultimately the championship? Rigged?
@@MythLee nah bro if you look at Gun vs Tawfiq, that was a robbery. Flea Rock has mad style and flavor. Something BC One has been missing for years. Nadia and Flea Rock definitely represented what it means to be a bboy/bgirl. Style beats power anyday
Flea Rock's attitude was rude. He even pointed a finger at Shigekix, who is always ALWAYS positive and friendly. He tried to distract his opponent. He also had short rounds, one lets call it öriginal" move, 1 or 2 more basic moves, not so clearly executed.
Bro, do a little research where BBOYING/BGIRLING came from. There was a real bboy right there and a person who’s just there to give sets and combos like coreography. This came from Fonk, this is hip hop.
Idk imo flea took first as well.. i wouldn't mind if shigekix won tho, it could go either way.. imo in this battle shigekix a lil bit lacked flava and battle presence, yet didn't show some incredible moves as well.. plus shigekix dancing looks like he tries to fit his premeditated sets into music, while Flea makes you believe he's fully freestyling
@@rolfrau5743 yes, maybe it was a crash but not that obvious, he landed on foot and continued dancing without falter, But again, it could go either way as i've already said
People say Flea was dancing and Shigekix was not ... But flea was just mocking and making fun of Shigekix just to get judges attention, after that only 2-3 movements and you call it dance? Underestimating the skills and enjoying the show not the true battle
It's what we used to emilate in our uprock/top rock battles here in ny . He's lucky he got the guns from luney tunes and not the Mario flag pole slide from bboy Luigi lmfao
Yo, in Cali we would say Shigekix got faded (FR-no disrespect). The old dog got him. The music, the story, wasn't tailored to Shigekix's style. Flea Rock had a little power too. He used his arsenal INCREDIBLY well.
Unbelievable. A head spin did not guarantee Flea Rock's first entry. And even if he had won the second, with the pistols, the third one he didn't even know what to do, it was left to untie the shoelace of the Shingekix. I liked the guy's performance, it was a surprise, but he didn't win this one. They took out a possible champion for a momentary nostalgia.
I hear ya, but aren't most of these Battles with friendly rivals? Ya know, respect each other win or lose? It's common to do one middle finger, two fingers, use rude gestures etc, as part of Battles..... thats not actually to be taken serious. If it's real then, BBoy Flea has bad attitude issues with his ego....lol. I love Shigekix thou, I think he's amazing❤️❤️
@@bboygui403 tá na cara que deu shigekix meu amigo, no terceiro round o flea nem sabia o que fazer direito, só desamarrou o cadarço do shigekix, mesmo ele tendo a primeira entrada do primeiro e segundo round boa, foi só isso entende, tudo isso só pra tirar o campeão!
@@alucky9815 salve man blz?! O legal do break é isso! Nem sempre técnica ou elementos de dificuldades ganha uma batalha." Burns " tem pontuação alta no breaking. Ou pelo menos é para ter e hoje muitos bboys esquecem disso! É como no boxe os socos nos rins, não derruba de imediato mas vai minando o cara até que, uma hora ele caí. Sem contar quê, burns tbm é técnica de combate e bem aplicado pode tirar de cena um power move de alto nível tbm. Eis nosso orgulho por sermos bboys! Pois temos muita complexidades no que fazemos. Embora só é visto o power move para muitos. Mas claro que respeito interamente com sua opinião e longe de mim desmerecer qualquer opinião a respeito. Forte abraço e que Deus te abençoe!
@@bboypicopicolino5214 sim mano, mas tipo, eu acho que o shigekix ganhou, pelo simples fato de que se o "burns" o flea não conseguiu fazer muita coisa, entendo seu lado, mas acho que o flea não era pra ter levado essa, óbvio que respeito sua opinião!
Оба классные,но очевидно Shigekix был круче.вообще много что поразило в выборе жюри...но рада ,что в финал все же попали одни из сильнейших.Респект всем.
Его элементы были сложнее, но он просто набросал их, безвкусно и не в музыку, а это считай уже что ничего не сделал, в брейк дансе важно быть харизматичным, оригинальным и одним целым с музыкой, конечно сложные элементы тоже должны быть, но не так как у Shigekix, просто быстро лишь бы что накидать, и кстати, все его главные фризы делаются почти с одинаковым расположением рук, то есть он и так проиграл, так ещё и повторялся
Shigekix had more advanced moves maybe but he was not on beat most of the battle. There's no point in having music if you aren't breaking to the beat. Also resetting in the middle of your set looks sloppy and less refined which is what shigekix did too many times. Also there's a certain length/number of moves to where a set looks most aesthetic. Having a set that's too long looks off/weird.
Raw b boying ? Lol. Gtfoh . All he does is imitate old school. Corny sword and gun burns. The B girls in the competition could do his moves . What's raw is Shigekix speed and power combination of snappy moves.
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 Do you know that this is a dance right? It ain't about what you do, but how you do it (said by Roxrite - one of the best bboys of all time), and also Flea Rock imitates old school??? He was breaking already in the early 90s that is definitely not new school is it?
Please tell me what was original from flea Rock? Was it the samurai swords or the two guns? Because all the other things he did I saw from thousands of Bboys before
@@bradrockl8330 A samurai sword cause the opponent is a japanese, got it? Japanese, swords, samurais. So much, clever, man! Originality at its finest...
I watched the battle several times in order to see why Flea Rock's fans are so excited. I saw the following: - round 1: FR did one headspin, descent execution, half a move afterwards and he draw his invisible sword. That's it. - round 2: another descent, not so complex move (which Shigekix also did btw) and a half. - round 3: two moves, one of which is another headspin variation. Nothing crazy. And some twitching on the floor which was supposed to be exciting, one of the girl judges reacted as if she saw the most unique thing ever. Excuse me, but nothing in FR's performance was extraordinary or great, except may be his attitude, which was rude and agressive.
This might explain Flea Rocks 365 training videos on youtube. Training to battle Shigekix. Awesome. But based on the Video title, and the set up, I feel like this was a fix, and Shigekix might have upset the RB BCONE leadership.
@@keithlee1543 he actually improvise his game by pull out the gun flava, burn with style and attitude. There are many ways to win a battle and this is part of the elements
Shigekix should 100% won i don't how this jugdes have give to flea rock,in second round he have have make only two or three things rest was just show,same in the 3 round,so at least shigekix should take 2:1 or in my eyes 3:0.
that basicly a burn style and what the original bboy doing in 70 and 80.what flet do is not about how hard the move but the attitude the rocking the style and charisma that youngster will never understand until they get older. sure shingrkix is good but he is not battling. bboy mainly is about how u battling and burn you opponent and its have been missing in bcone these day
Spiderwave is the Message The Message is you can't stop the prophet. Damn Flea back to bring back the Rock and jump around, still hot for a quick delivery, EZ.
Actually it is going to the Olympics. But winning subjective. Needs a scoring system. I subbed Flea Rock as I met him in 2002 and again in 2003. But Shig destroyed him. It wasnt even a challenge for Shig. Unsure why Flea won other than the Judges know him from OG status.
Excelente observação! Também se deve ao fato de flea rock utilizar gestos de constrangimento. Isso é como um soco no rim do boxe. Não derruma de imediato, mas vai minando o adversário até que uma hora ele caí! Ambos são fortes adversários!!! Abraço!!!
I will say this as easy so it translates simple. Bboying is not soulless dance style. If you cannot understand then please take a moment to dig for older clips whether it’s battles or just anything but if you cannot understand how flea won then you are not a bboy. I understand how much time effort, training etc is needed to be doing what shigekix was doing but not about that. We will in a age where if you train hard enough you can achieve these moves. But character and real bboy essence is not in the moves.
Shigekix was in a hurry like all the time, while Flea Rock simply controlled the battle and the crowd with his style it's hard to understand or accept, but it was a fair victory for Flea Rock
Shigekix is simply faster amd stronger, since flea is thousand times slower he had to focus on other things. His win it's still debatable tho , his moves weren't nearly as good, sharp or even difficult as Shigekix's, he spent half of his rounds burning and taunting instead of backing up them with some moves. Shigekix was far superior in every aspect except the cypher one, mainly because he didn't waste half of his sets in imaginary guns (However he still responded the ufos and the sword gesture) It's pretty sad that skilled bboys keep getting robbed :/
@@dertree4187 I remember back in 2017 when Issei was the defending champion BC One Judges also did this to him when he fought his second opponent and he quickly lost just like here with Shigekix. PRETTY DISAPPOINTING FINISH FOR HIM! BC One always do this to the Japanese.
@@awakenedsoul2638 Comparing Issei vs Wing and Flea Rock vs Shigekix isn't the best idea. Issei was far from being robbed at 2017, Wing was simply on fire and executing everything on beat, there weren't many bboys to compete against Wing in that battle.
Shigekix could do everything, but I feel that he is lacking some original moves. I know he has some, but feels like there should be more especially the fact he does everything really well. Also he’s too nice kid where he needs more of that battle attitude.
He doesn't give enough care to the shapes of his movement, so it sometimes looks dirty even when there is no crash. Also his musicality is still behind.
I recently moved to Japan from the US and over here some judges don't like the battle attitude. In a recent battle I joined over here, a judge said that he voted against me because I was too serious and he said that I should look more like I'm having fun. Imagine saying that to Flea Rock 😂
@@bengsensei4092 but I think you would agree that Shigekix himself is more on the serious side, compared to many Japanese dancers. Even him appearing on Akibaccano was a big surprise
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Shigekix is the 1st person in history to be murdered by finger guns 🤣
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Shigekix got fingered! 😂 but all
Kidding aside he held his own!
Flea has been dancing for almost 30 years. His experience really showed in that battle.
Both dancers are phenomenal, especially shigekix and his ability as well; however this time Flea used that experience and played chess very well. That’s all.
Instead of hating on the guy or punking judges who all have deep credibility…
Why don’t you ask yourself “ what can I learn from that battle? What is it that I missing and what am I not understanding so that I can improve. “
Always remain a student
Nice cmt, i really like Shigekix too much but i respect judges, it's great battle!!!
respect, always diggin
the 4 main components of breaking are, toprock, footwork, freezes and powermoves. In none of these he won shigekix. So if he doesn't win in the main components of breaking, it makes no sense for another less important component to make him win.
Flea Rock Originality, Flava And flow
1:14 crash
2:08 Bruce almight's move
2:25 skychief's move
2:36 super dope move
3:38 head spin again
@@genilson2354 wait...Bruce Almight, Skychief ‘s move??? do you know when did Flea start dancing???
Redbull is sponsored by Flearock here. He is bringing so much cultural value to this commercial event they don’t really deserve it
That actually goes both ways, Redbull is providing the platform for original bboy culture to be demonstrated to a mainstream audiance. This is important, especially since bboying is now becoming Olympic. People get to learn the culture better through this event.
🤡 okayyy
How did Shigekix survive all those bullets and blade swipes?
He's just too fast. Couldn't hit him.
He didn’t, that’s why he lost
This might have been the last chance for an OG to remind the world where did this form of art came from (from the streets where people died). Peace
NEVER FORGET
Absolutely.
True lol
@Amit Atwal 😂 what?! A battle is won per battle. There is no theatrics here. That’s bboyin. I dunno where you from but it ain’t it lol
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its clear who's there to run sets and who's there to break free. big ups to the legend Flea
Couldnt have said it better
on point
Everything shikigex does is scripted and written
Yeah and watching it a second time, Shigekix also felt a little rushed instead of sticking the freezes or focusing on the interaction. Epic battle though.
You literally see Flea do his finger gun set in the 365 practice video, but okay.
Understandable any result. I really love unique styles and flavour based bboys, but in this case I don't think it was enough to counter Shigekix's skill. I respect all opinions, but for me this one is for the Japanese 😐.
agree with your view！
Agree with you too
Agreed
For me, too.
Agreed
In my opinion, this is the most disrespectful battle I've ever seen, and it is disgusting by the judges (minus El Nino). Shigekix won this EASILY
Flea rock
- Did a continuous headspin (witth a crash), and a light saber routine????
- Did "finger guns" for round 2
- Another repeat of headspins from round 1 and some turtles...no footwork
Shigekix
- Complete round with going out first, toprock, footwork, powermoves on beat (1990 variation) and ending freeze
- Again a complete round of everything
- toprock, response to flea rock's ufo, insane shoulder halo freeze on beat, and speedy footwork with the music
I agree that Flea Rock is not at fault, the judges who made the biased jugements are wrong. And everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, but mine is very CLEAR. shigekix should have won 5-0 EASY.
SHIGEKIX WON THIS BATTLE
Agreed
No entiendes nada, eso es lo que pasa, realmente crees que los jurados con más de 20 años de experiencia tiene una opinión errónea.
Pero tú que sólo eres un niño en esto crees saber más?
Un consejo amigable de mi parte, mira con atención a los mejores b-boys del mundo y te darás cuenta de que cada uno posee un estilo único y destacable y ninguno de los mejores b-boys baila tan poco original como Shigekix, eso es todo 😉
Shigekix es genial pero no tiene nada priginal.
finger guns and light saber man. That's how you win a world class bboy competition.
🤣🤣sarcasm off the roof
LOL
Epic🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 best sarcasm ever
try to do it... looks easy but if yourent careful w dem burns you look stupid
you need certain aura/charisma
and thats why the crowd went crazy when flea pull th burns....
Round 2 from Flea IS Bboying. Literally everything that bboying is about translated in that 1 round. Respect to both bboys 🙏
Shigekix with respect He deserved to win. His moves are way better. Judges should be more just and leave their emotions.
sorry bro style win power all day, that burn style is something thqt bcone lost and he bring it back
It`s not just about the moves, it`s about the whole dance
leave their emotions????? wow that's the worst comment ever.... don't forget that it's DANCING, it's an art before it became a sport!!!! if you don't put feelings in it..... that mean you dont understand it...
We need to appreciate both individual styles here and be grateful to see a match up like this to have these debates. The pure essence of breaking can get lost on huge platforms such as Red Bull. When you see a W from rounds like Fleas, without conforming his style to what the public eye may seem fit (athleticism, power moves, etc.) it’s great for the culture.
Let’s have perspective and hope this challenges dancers to be original, practice charisma, and be in the moment. Which normally is overlooked.
It’s easier to playback and breakdown the rounds here on TH-cam. I’m sure if you watched it live, the energy was unmatched and persuaded the judges decisions. End of the day, dance is subjective. They’re both champions in their own right 💯🤞🏼
Good point. I think a lot of people are judging breaking like there is a certain formula or equation you have to do to win. Where many people forget this dance is a battle dance. Where just being good at doing movements doesn’t necessarily mean you can battle.
Appreciate Flea giving a young kid the middle finger in his face ? Stfu.
Flea perdeu!
Haters still gonna hate 🤷♂️ ⬆️
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 and that's all you saw...AND you telling soneone to stfu on youtube 🤣 (real classy)
One the biggest reasons i fell in love w/bboying, is the attitude. Shig definitely underestimated flea. Both did great. Congrats to flea
This is not the first time Shigekix loses to someone who shows more style and originality, like Stripes and Nori. My two cents is that these bboys can be very hard to counter when they feel the music and have their moments, and while Shigekix is always good at doing his own stuff, he usually can't provide a proper reply for what they do.
Shigekix is a good athlete but he's never known for being good at battling, strategy, or even originality
One of the most educated and properly insightful comments so far. Very well said.
After 27 years of breaking I’m sure shigekix would be throwing handstyles and burners as a counter when he can no longer spin the way he does.
Some people seem to think that once you’re older it means you’re obsolete… they forget the saying “ they don’t make them like they used to”. 70’s and 80’s pants have much finer quality then pants these days cause of the material and process.
@@frostflow i was breaking at 15 now im 26. I can feel the age 😂 But dancing is like fine wine it takes maturity
Flea Rock Originality, Flava And flow
1:14 crash
2:08 Bruce almight's move
2:25 skychief's move
2:36 super dope move
3:38 head spin again
Originality and style being angry and do middle fingers swords and pistols are damn styles , I feel bad for you if you think flea won
Even in this new era of tricks , power moves and endless body rocks/threads. Gotta always respect where it came from and how far we've gotten away from what the meaning and purpose was about. From a feeling and expression to technique and endorsement deals. Barely any musicality in many of the new school, but not throwing shade. I just notice there's a clear difference in musicality no
I can see it too
no lol
Watch any 90's (or older) battle and compare it to the battles now. There is way more musicality nowadays. Bboys now have just so much more control, which allows them to hit every beat
@@mian6788 nowadays nobody is on beat except a few like victor
@@rakyo9764 musicality of bboys gets worse and worse the farther you go back in time
I would have given it to Shigekix... I was so surprised with the decisions of the judges.
😹😹😹
shigekix def took rd 1 and 3, idk wtf the judges are smoking, all them bgirl judges a trash at judging. This was super biased
@@d0p3fo05 lmfao, Menno and Kleju also voted for Flea
@@d0p3fo05 Sarah bee who is close to the rugged and lagaet, only voted for them... That was very biased. I would have given shigekix winner, Bart over lagaet, and I would give the win to Phil Wizard in the final. However, I don't have the experience of the judges. Congrats to Amir.
Glad you’re not a judge.
Flearock showing us what the Olympics should have been 🤣
Can't believe I'm saying this but for once it was refreshing??? to see an old-school breaker with a strong battle attitude...I don't think Flea won this but it was still nice to see
Style always beats techniches
02:36 "Nice to see" Bullshit, If you dont give respect, you dont deserve It.
@@MatheusOliveira-oh6wd Flea Rock Originality, Flava And flow
1:14 crash
2:08 Bruce almight's move
2:25 skychief's move
2:36 super dope move
3:38 head spin again
@@genilson2354 sin yolanda maricarmen
How can you call a ufo a bruce move 😄
@@genilson2354 não é do Bruce, isso é um movimento q existe no break, a Headspin dele é muito ruim, ele coloca as mãos pra fazer, em nível profissional isso e muito básico, Shigekix consegue sair da Headspin pra Shoulder Freeze ou vice versa, mostrar dedo do meio não e movimento nem vitória pra ngm, é ridiculo, só mostra o quanto vc e ruim e precisa ganhar de qualquer jeito.
Redbull BC One is waaaaay better without commentary😅🤷🏽♂️ suuuuuper dope battle!🔥
Seriously idk why they do that, ruins the whole vibe of bboying.
Shiguekix winner: dinámic,power,signatures,musicality,dinamic footwoork,ejecución,súper energy... real machine
When people confuse style and "soul" for just burns and a headspin. There's a massive difference but judges are biased. Would be nice to have a chart where they determine who won in categories like power/style/dynamics instead of just putting a sign over their head. Actually make the judges think for a second instead of only remembering the last round of the battle.
eboy alert. you want a cookie for throwing down in the cypher too?
@@justfactual 👶?
Agree!
Oh after this one maybe next year I can win the bc one with my sword , pistol , middle finger technique, not wasting my time with originality and powermoves
3 RONDS repet hallo shoulder.... thing about this
Zz
repeat again and again the headspin like flea rock
It's a lot harder to commit in the way he does than you make it out to be. Burns like that don't work when most bboys do them because it feels fake. Flea Rock is legit man, no cracks, full composure. He showed it here and that's why he took the win.
@@CalvinRRC he crashed the headspin to chair
Flea really got into Shigeckix’s head and made him lose focus, its a valuable lesson to the young bro
The camera position was really terrible, what should the crap from the ground to filming? 90% of the recordings are from the floor, so you can't see a lot of things exactly, I really don't know what these cameramen have studied. The perfect view is slightly oblique from above and certainly not from the floor.
I was so annoyed about this also. Probably some amateur producer who wanted to be "creative" with finding a new angle...bad move!
flea definitely knows how to put on a show. was surprised to see him repping this year but he showed out. Shigekix with the precision and intricate power combos. Tought one!
not really. Flea smoked him. Judge's decision reflects that.
@@jnlsnfamily8747 Flea just disrespected him, but Shigekix mopped the floor with flea on a technical level
@@maxtheice Disrespect? It's a battle. And clearly the judges disagree with your decision.
Shigekix had better more advanced spins. But in terms of being more “technical”, not at all. Flea’s technique is way more well rounded and his basics more advanced and refined. Flea won because he did everything, and even took chances with free style in the moment. Shigekix had great execution and speed...flea was more creative and dug deeper in the battle. Not to mention he’s 2x shigekix age
@@enjayflave Hong 10 is also 2x shigekixs age
Okay here is my problem. It's not with Flea, but with judges , minus El Nino. It seems like people feel like Flea was bringing that "Raw" energy and musicality, and 'freestyle'. But that burn was pre-choregoraphed and didn't go with the music for most parts. On the world stage, everybody has at least combos - if not sets that they run. That burn was pre-meditated and written just like any other set combo. It feels like judges just gave the battle to Flea after the burn - even though it happened in round 2. Also, are we really just pulling out samurai swords on any japanese bboy? I don't know. Respecting the culture. It just suffers from the problem that if a younger person were to do a similar thing it would be judged to a higher standard of scrutiny. Like, we take for granted the flexibility, cleanlinees, and complexity of Shikigex's sets because he performs consistently and judge him against what he usually does rather than against his opponent - I think this happens for other breakers too. Flea was repeating too. Both were running variations of the moves they were repeating, so it's debateable whether points should be taken off. Just, our judging is not consistent and it sucks to see people who clearly have put more recent training in lose on technicalities - while every other battle in the competition was judged on a different scale. No one else had their third automatically disqualified from a second round their opponent did.
I agree with a lot of the other commentors. Flea Rock is OG, but Shikigeix out danced him in this battle. People say he's a gymnast, but he does these athletic moves on beat - which is why he won last year's competition. Burns are built into the dance, but so is cleanliness, combos, variations, form, variety, length of set, complexity, difficulty and more. Cros and Ronnie both said it's about showing you can do something your opponent can't do. And Shigekix responded directly to UFO's. IDK just sucks to see hard work be invalidated because of a social norm. It's like burns are a cheat code to beating more athletic opponents and it just don't seem fair to me - and a lot of other people who saw this battle. Respect to everyone. Regardless of who people thought won, I think everyone can agree that this battle stood out among all the other battles that night - at least for the bboy bracket.
It is same like in a rap freestyle - authenticity and confidence are both the most important things. And you cant quantify those quanlities, bboy just emits it or not, and thats the difference between real bboy or athlete, art or science, culture or sport
The real winner shigekix 🤙🔥💯
Inacreditável. Giro de cabeça não garantiu a primeira entra do Flea Rock. E mesmo dando a sengunda entrada pra ele, com as pistolinhas, a terceira ele nem sabia o que fazer, sobrou desamarrar o cadarço do Shingekix. Gostei da atuação do cara, surpreendeu, mas não ganhou essa. Tiraram um possível campeão por um surto nostálgico.
Acompanho o BC one desde 2006. Shingekix Ganhou essa. porém os juízes não reconheceram os movimentos do atual campeão! Roubo literalmente. Cada dia que se passa mais panelas existirão no mundo do Breakdance.
Não sou fan do Shigekix, mas ele ganhou essa fácil. Porém, foi eliminado por ser o atual campeão, como sempre fazem com todos que voltam para defender o título.
Iam roubar ele de todo jeito,eu já esperava isso
Foi exatamente isso que eu pensei.
Shigekix venceu
Flea is a biter. Ive seen those blade cuts before. It was the first time I saw Pirat from Poland do it. If Im not mistaken it was his signature from 2008. Comon Flea...
1:14 h. spin crashed
2:24 c mon
3:37 hspin again?
1r shigekix win
2r flearock win
3r shigekix win
How can they give this not to shigekix.corrupt judges
The judges are probably old school bboys, and Flea did some 90s class sets which impressed them more.
Cause Flea Rock won
@@jbizzle74 why is the fire hot?
coz its hot. your logic
Judges got paid just like the politics corruption is everywhere
After Luigi, Flea rock we want Cloud back ..
We gotta get born back
cloud retired - no longer competitive breaker. he's still an artist, but more into short films nowadays
Still wish he won 2009 would have been legendary
Flea had moves that resembled the same output of an MC in a rap battle. It was based on the moment and their specific opponent, not rehearsals or in this case, choreography. Momentum is everything, and unfortunately Shigekix lost his crowd momentum cause flea had him bleeding from "finger gunz".
Top battle, regardless. Can't deny that his style, but I hope he comes back with some more burns and emotion.
Tha gunz tho... shitz got me grinning as I type. Too funny. Too good.
A lesson was taught here to all BC one entries after this. This battle here is what changed things. I'm glad it did. Thank you Flea Rock
Flea Rock with the fresh confidence and burns. Takes us back to the roots. Props to shigekix always nailing his crazy power move combos but flea rock is a raw battler through and through and that's what the judges happened to favor (perhaps they thought shigekix was very formulaic?)
Burns baby!!!!
he is not better calm down, just judges were trolling
Style King's moves are like an Egyptian mural coming to life💯💯💯
Pretty surprised Flea Rock got the nod, his second round was great but the first and third were quite sloppy, with a crash in his first and very basic combos in the third.
Still, it's nice to see an old school legend like Flea even compete in a comp like this, let alone get as far as he did. Good battle.
Let's say that's true (I don't think it is). Shigekix's rounds were boring, repetitive and unoriginal. He also lacked soul
@@wheelz114 That's cool man, it's all subjective.
You mean Raw Break 😏
@@wheelz114 but those moves were better than olds man lol
Shigekixs crashed more , he just moves so fast you can't notice unless your there or know the move yourself
Don't get it Flea's name was on the majority of the judges cards so did he win or not?
Either way good battle. Flea wow'd and Shigekix countered well but would've voted Flea Rock as he showed no mercy during the battle but was a sport with the opponent before the winner announcement.
This battle was lit asf ! I do agree shigekix should’ve have won but I didn’t mind the burn and style flavor that Flea rock had that made him win. I was surprised with the Arsenal flea had for shigekix here. I wouldn’t really call this battle a robbery, it was a good exchange and flea rock had the crowd more than shigekix sadly. This battle literally could’ve gone to either of them.
I agree with your comment. Were you surprised as I was that the judges gave Amir the win over Flea in the semifinals and ultimately the championship? Rigged?
Yeah
@@MythLee nah bro if you look at Gun vs Tawfiq, that was a robbery. Flea Rock has mad style and flavor. Something BC One has been missing for years. Nadia and Flea Rock definitely represented what it means to be a bboy/bgirl. Style beats power anyday
It's a boy battle , not breakable battle lol
@@Kohnlao7 I agree I never said I didn’t lol 😂
That gun move is a historical move foreshadowing shigikix’s fate of getting robbed at gun point by the judges. 😂
Wtf?? What i just saw? Flea was good somewere in 2000 with his trix not now!
breakinバトルのジャッチはこういうもの
ジャッチの価値観で判断されるものだから、人によってはおかしいと思って当然。
ゆえに、オリンピック化すること自体がナンセンス
Lmao when flea threw that middle finger he discredited his TH-cam channel and everything he rep lol talking about being respectful lol
Flea Rock's attitude was rude. He even pointed a finger at Shigekix, who is always ALWAYS positive and friendly. He tried to distract his opponent. He also had short rounds, one lets call it öriginal" move, 1 or 2 more basic moves, not so clearly executed.
It’s a battle you’re supposed to treat your opponent like he’s your enemy
Bro, do a little research where BBOYING/BGIRLING came from. There was a real bboy right there and a person who’s just there to give sets and combos like coreography. This came from Fonk, this is hip hop.
Ok second round flea won...first and third shigekix mann wtf
exactly😪
Idk imo flea took first as well.. i wouldn't mind if shigekix won tho, it could go either way.. imo in this battle shigekix a lil bit lacked flava and battle presence, yet didn't show some incredible moves as well.. plus shigekix dancing looks like he tries to fit his premeditated sets into music, while Flea makes you believe he's fully freestyling
@@andrewsk6898 you mean flea rock still took it even after the headspin crash?
@@rolfrau5743 yes, maybe it was a crash but not that obvious, he landed on foot and continued dancing without falter, But again, it could go either way as i've already said
@@rolfrau5743on top of that this competition doesnt have a round-vote system so battles can be assessed as a whole, not by rounds
People say Flea was dancing and Shigekix was not ... But flea was just mocking and making fun of Shigekix just to get judges attention, after that only 2-3 movements and you call it dance? Underestimating the skills and enjoying the show not the true battle
Are these judges high on weed or something?
the girls is the problem i think
@@velociraptordelaonu5572 maybe who knows 🤣
Is that true flea win
I gave them a Jeffrey before they went on stage
@@CalvinRRC ahhh you did a great job💯👍 🤣
Does anyone know why the crowed went crazy for flee rock when he started doing the guns ? Is it a reference to something in the culture ? Or
It’s called a burn. A super important factor and part of the roots in boy culture.
It's what we used to emilate in our uprock/top rock battles here in ny . He's lucky he got the guns from luney tunes and not the Mario flag pole slide from bboy Luigi lmfao
I rly hope JUDGES are rewatching it.
How did someone lose to a light saber and a dumb gun move? The kangaroo Olympic girl should have won the Olympics! 😆
I really wanted Shigekix to win this. And I'm not sure I know all the reasons... but I too would've given it to Flea
Flea rock with the original signature move “the shoelace pull” 🔥
Al fin una votación verdadera respect Flea rock
Yo, in Cali we would say Shigekix got faded (FR-no disrespect). The old dog got him. The music, the story, wasn't tailored to Shigekix's style. Flea Rock had a little power too. He used his arsenal INCREDIBLY well.
ライブストリーミング後、公式が決勝バトルよりも先に動画でアップロードするバトルって、いろんな意味でスゲーな！
по факту
Im korean Shigekix win 1000000%
Shigekix the true winner
Unbelievable. A head spin did not guarantee Flea Rock's first entry. And even if he had won the second, with the pistols, the third one he didn't even know what to do, it was left to untie the shoelace of the Shingekix. I liked the guy's performance, it was a surprise, but he didn't win this one. They took out a possible champion for a momentary nostalgia.
You're wrong. And you dont know better than the judges.
Shigelix win ☝️🔥
En tus sueños .... segui llorando.
Its disrespectful to show middle finger to shigekix, well flea rock did it
I hear ya, but aren't most of these Battles with friendly rivals? Ya know, respect each other win or lose? It's common to do one middle finger, two fingers, use rude gestures etc, as part of Battles..... thats not actually to be taken serious.
If it's real then, BBoy Flea has bad attitude issues with his ego....lol.
I love Shigekix thou, I think he's amazing❤️❤️
Sorry Shigekix, you are the true winner.
Judges were high on something. SMH
BC One is becoming worse every year.
you should do Judge
@Michel yeah bc one fake event robbing their own dancer on their own event, so fake, making so much sense. props to u bro, pat on the shoulder
BC One would have been the worst this year if Shigekix won lmao.
単純に技の難易度とかフレッシュさで言ったらShigekixなんだろうけど、Flea Rockのダンスに対するオーディエンスの盛り上がりを見るとそれ以上の何かがあったんだろうね。悔しい。
ただ、オリンピックで同じ状況になったら納得いく人がいるかですね。💦
悔しいなあ🥺
@@shantanch. たしかに。今回がオリンピックじゃなくてよかったと思いました笑
ジャッジを増やして、細かい採点項目を出すようにしたら多少納得感は増す気がしますねー。
あまりジャッジに文句を言うと誰もジャッジをしてくれなくなっちゃうと思うので、あまりジャッジ批判が広がるようにはなって欲しくないですねー。ジャッジするのも大変だと思うし。
それにしても悔しい。
@@nukenin-waken フリーロック嫌いじゃないんですけどね😆
ジャッジはオーディエンスに流されずに一貫してジャッジしてほしかったなあ
Sigekix vs Amir観たかったです🥺
@@shantanch. たしかに観たかったぁ😂
이번 올림픽에서도 시게킥스가 이겼다고 생각했지만 억울하게 탈락했다.
Flea learned what is respect to Shigekix
A batalha foi boa, mas quem ganhou mesmo foi SHIGEKIX...
Injusto dms essa batalha
Na cara que era o shigekix que tinha ganhado
Mano, eu discordo, pra mim deu flea rock, mas eu queria saber, por que você achou que deu shigekix ?
@@bboygui403 tá na cara que deu shigekix meu amigo, no terceiro round o flea nem sabia o que fazer direito, só desamarrou o cadarço do shigekix, mesmo ele tendo a primeira entrada do primeiro e segundo round boa, foi só isso entende, tudo isso só pra tirar o campeão!
@@alucky9815 salve man blz?!
O legal do break é isso! Nem sempre técnica ou elementos de dificuldades ganha uma batalha." Burns " tem pontuação alta no breaking. Ou pelo menos é para ter e hoje muitos bboys esquecem disso! É como no boxe os socos nos rins, não derruba de imediato mas vai minando o cara até que, uma hora ele caí.
Sem contar quê, burns tbm é técnica de combate e bem aplicado pode tirar de cena um power move de alto nível tbm. Eis nosso orgulho por sermos bboys! Pois temos muita complexidades no que fazemos. Embora só é visto o power move para muitos.
Mas claro que respeito interamente com sua opinião e longe de mim desmerecer qualquer opinião a respeito. Forte abraço e que Deus te abençoe!
@@bboypicopicolino5214 sim mano, mas tipo, eu acho que o shigekix ganhou, pelo simples fato de que se o "burns" o flea não conseguiu fazer muita coisa, entendo seu lado, mas acho que o flea não era pra ter levado essa, óbvio que respeito sua opinião!
Оба классные,но очевидно Shigekix был круче.вообще много что поразило в выборе жюри...но рада ,что в финал все же попали одни из сильнейших.Респект всем.
Его элементы были сложнее, но он просто набросал их, безвкусно и не в музыку, а это считай уже что ничего не сделал, в брейк дансе важно быть харизматичным, оригинальным и одним целым с музыкой, конечно сложные элементы тоже должны быть, но не так как у Shigekix, просто быстро лишь бы что накидать, и кстати, все его главные фризы делаются почти с одинаковым расположением рук, то есть он и так проиграл, так ещё и повторялся
Флеа Рок тоже ничего особенного не показал, ещё и упал
Shigekix had more advanced moves maybe but he was not on beat most of the battle. There's no point in having music if you aren't breaking to the beat. Also resetting in the middle of your set looks sloppy and less refined which is what shigekix did too many times. Also there's a certain length/number of moves to where a set looks most aesthetic. Having a set that's too long looks off/weird.
This the guy that lost to the House of Pirates?
😂
Lost to the house of gwai ;) hehe
Shegekix 🏆
You dont understand breaking 👍
0:36 he says someone’s on beat, then the people after proceed to clap off beat 🤣
Flea Rock with raw bboying and fresh style takes the 100% deserved win, the battle of the night
Raw b boying ? Lol. Gtfoh . All he does is imitate old school. Corny sword and gun burns. The B girls in the competition could do his moves . What's raw is Shigekix speed and power combination of snappy moves.
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 Do you know that this is a dance right? It ain't about what you do, but how you do it (said by Roxrite - one of the best bboys of all time), and also Flea Rock imitates old school??? He was breaking already in the early 90s that is definitely not new school is it?
@@arbr8119 He has no signatures or original moves .
@@arbr8119 News flash little kid, b boying was created before the 90's lol .
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 people don’t understand that you can also have style in powermoves
Shigekix won, easy
that was one of the sickest battles I've ever seen. I sure wish i was there live to feel that energy. im glad flea rock won
Flea is not in the music and he crash all of move i dont understand the jury chose . Can you give my the explication please 😅?
Shigekix =Power & complexed patterns an execution
Flearoc = Style an Originality
Both was 🔥🔥🔥
Iron sharpens iron
Please tell me what was original from flea Rock? Was it the samurai swords or the two guns?
Because all the other things he did I saw from thousands of Bboys before
@@bradrockl8330 not just katana or guns HE DANCE REAL B BOY
@@bradrockl8330 A samurai sword cause the opponent is a japanese, got it? Japanese, swords, samurais. So much, clever, man! Originality at its finest...
So now judges will make you win by doing more taunting? ALL THOSE JUDGES ARE INCOMPETENT!
@@clutchfit982
I won't call this robbery but I call this MISJUDGEMENT!
@@clutchfit982
Ahuh. So he talked about me.
Them judges needs to get drug tested. We need impartial and direct judges like Taisuke in these comps.
Is that true he Lose
5:22 WTF? 😳 Incompetent judges 🤮
Lol 😂
🤣🤣🤣 dont watch video
I watched the battle several times in order to see why Flea Rock's fans are so excited. I saw the following:
- round 1: FR did one headspin, descent execution, half a move afterwards and he draw his invisible sword. That's it.
- round 2: another descent, not so complex move (which Shigekix also did btw) and a half.
- round 3: two moves, one of which is another headspin variation. Nothing crazy. And some twitching on the floor which was supposed to be exciting, one of the girl judges reacted as if she saw the most unique thing ever.
Excuse me, but nothing in FR's performance was extraordinary or great, except may be his attitude, which was rude and agressive.
You obviously don't understand burns and being dissed. It's a battle and shigekix didn't come out with a better response to those burns.
@@Proj.3nouns how exactly do u respond to something which the opponent does in the 3rd round when u go 1st. U are imagining things and u talk nonsense
Watch dyzees video about this battle
Just say you don’t understand the nuances of breaking outside of just big moves
God hes old school " flea rock " he just brings back so many memories beat street graffiti ect I love his style man !! 👄🚬
This might explain Flea Rocks 365 training videos on youtube. Training to battle Shigekix. Awesome.
But based on the Video title, and the set up, I feel like this was a fix, and Shigekix might have upset the RB BCONE leadership.
He trained finger guns?
@@keithlee1543 he actually improvise his game by pull out the gun flava, burn with style and attitude. There are many ways to win a battle and this is part of the elements
@@juonthespot6855 nah I'm not with it.
his 365 has absolutely nothing to do with RBBC1. A dude like Flea don't practice for the sole purpose of battling someone like Shigekix of all people
@@keithlee1543 Get over it then.
05:37 🤣🤣😂😂😂yoooooo Flea my hand 🙃
a 90's style vs a new generation style. Damn
Bruh, how do you get burned and cooked that many times and not respond to it AT ALL. Sheeeeesh. OG Flea Rock doggin em out.
The younger bboys don’t understand man 😭
judges all stars ??? . who is stars ??? . i don't know . Shigekix he win . he need respect
Shigekix 🔥🔥🔥
Shigekix should 100% won i don't how this jugdes have give to flea rock,in second round he have have make only two or three things rest was just show,same in the 3 round,so at least shigekix should take 2:1 or in my eyes 3:0.
cuz you ain't a bboy simple as that
@@dhpark25 wah.. u bboy?
definitely u can describe how judges do their job in this battle
Shigekix win, wtf judge ?
im vẻy agree with you =))))
The results are somewhat biased for the black-bearded guy - lousy tournament - from Vietnam🇻🇳
Bboy menno in the judge 🤧 not surprise with the result...
i have no idea what flea was doing, very basic combo and his first and third round looks similar.i can't find any skills from flea in this battle.
that basicly a burn style and what the original bboy doing in 70 and 80.what flet do is not about how hard the move but the attitude the rocking the style and charisma that youngster will never understand until they get older. sure shingrkix is good but he is not battling. bboy mainly is about how u battling and burn you opponent and its have been missing in bcone these day
If you have no idea what he’s doing, then you won’t understand why he won. No point.
What is the title of the beat in round 1??
@02:35 dirty finger 😅👎
Spiderwave is the Message
The Message is you can't stop the prophet.
Damn Flea back to bring back the Rock and jump around, still hot for a quick delivery, EZ.
This is why bboy will never be in the Olympics... no true scoring or points just favoritism
It shouldn’t be. It’s not a sport its a dance
It's in the next Olympics already. A clown like Flea Rock won't stand a chance though when it's based on skills instead of favoritism and corny burns.
Actually it is going to the Olympics. But winning subjective. Needs a scoring system. I subbed Flea Rock as I met him in 2002 and again in 2003. But Shig destroyed him. It wasnt even a challenge for Shig. Unsure why Flea won other than the Judges know him from OG status.
it shouldnt be in the Olympics. It aint gymnastics
Breaking has already become an official Olympic sport. What are you talking about?
Fleas second solo was like an action movie trailer bruhhh he shaved it 💈💇♂️🔥🔥🔥
Flea Rock is not at fault.
The judges who made the biased judgment were wrong...
Shigekix won bruh..
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No even the judges can stop enjoying 2:31
看不懂为什么日本选手输了
我觉得是没有带动现场的风，感觉被rock牵着鼻子走，虽然他本身很强，而且还是上一年的冠军，但招式比较机械化吧，看腻了还是什么吧
Excelente observação! Também se deve ao fato de flea rock utilizar gestos de constrangimento. Isso é como um soco no rim do boxe. Não derruma de imediato, mas vai minando o adversário até que uma hora ele caí! Ambos são fortes adversários!!! Abraço!!!
@@kannayax 速度和energy都上来了，招试很难不机械化。 如果能有taisuke那样，稍微放一下速度，多思考一下招试，或许会更猛
I will say this as easy so it translates simple. Bboying is not soulless dance style. If you cannot understand then please take a moment to dig for older clips whether it’s battles or just anything but if you cannot understand how flea won then you are not a bboy. I understand how much time effort, training etc is needed to be doing what shigekix was doing but not about that. We will in a age where if you train hard enough you can achieve these moves. But character and real bboy essence is not in the moves.
are we just going to ignore the middle finger? I get the crowd pleasing element, but competition or not, Respect is key.
Shigekix was in a hurry like all the time, while Flea Rock simply controlled the battle and the crowd with his style
it's hard to understand or accept, but it was a fair victory for Flea Rock
Shigekix is simply faster amd stronger, since flea is thousand times slower he had to focus on other things.
His win it's still debatable tho , his moves weren't nearly as good, sharp or even difficult as Shigekix's, he spent half of his rounds burning and taunting instead of backing up them with some moves.
Shigekix was far superior in every aspect except the cypher one, mainly because he didn't waste half of his sets in imaginary guns (However he still responded the ufos and the sword gesture)
It's pretty sad that skilled bboys keep getting robbed :/
@@dertree4187 totally agreed
@@dertree4187
I remember back in 2017 when Issei was the defending champion BC One Judges also did this to him when he fought his second opponent and he quickly lost just like here with Shigekix. PRETTY DISAPPOINTING FINISH FOR HIM! BC One always do this to the Japanese.
Flea Rock Originality, Flava And flow
1:14 crash
2:08 Bruce almight's move
2:25 skychief's move
2:36 super dope move
3:38 head spin again
@@awakenedsoul2638 Comparing Issei vs Wing and Flea Rock vs Shigekix isn't the best idea.
Issei was far from being robbed at 2017, Wing was simply on fire and executing everything on beat, there weren't many bboys to compete against Wing in that battle.
Shigekix could do everything, but I feel that he is lacking some original moves. I know he has some, but feels like there should be more especially the fact he does everything really well. Also he’s too nice kid where he needs more of that battle attitude.
I don't hes too nice. Battle attitude has to be true to the person doing it. He was defending and trying to reapond to the sword burn
He doesn't give enough care to the shapes of his movement, so it sometimes looks dirty even when there is no crash. Also his musicality is still behind.
@@alexr6068 this
I recently moved to Japan from the US and over here some judges don't like the battle attitude. In a recent battle I joined over here, a judge said that he voted against me because I was too serious and he said that I should look more like I'm having fun. Imagine saying that to Flea Rock 😂
@@bengsensei4092 but I think you would agree that Shigekix himself is more on the serious side, compared to many Japanese dancers. Even him appearing on Akibaccano was a big surprise
What first song please ?🙏?