I am taking an Incomplete for a grade but I cannot let it slip to an F. The emergency situation was I couldn't find actors for my short film. (Our theater department was suffering and everyone had this issue) the professor suggested I take an Incomplete. I have a 100% in the class already but this film is a lot of points.
@gruesomenoodles yeah this sounds like a logical case for an incomplete. The professor sees an issue that's keeping you from getting the grade you deserve here, so they've extended a great offer. I'd take it based on what you have here, then just make sure you follow up and complete it. Make sure to read the contract carefully so you know the deadlines, too. Thanks for sharing this and thanks for watching!
I got suspended from my university because I got in to a fight with my roommate who was racist, and still am suspended, so my grades are falling to E, in some classes they are A. My university has completed conducting the investigation but I have not received a final decision. I have escalated the issue to the Vice President of student services because I haven't received the final decision. Although the court has dismissed the case, and I am a 100% free, my university is doing its own separate investigation. However, my question is, could I apply for an incomplete grade in such circumstances? If yes, one more question, will my transcript be any different than a student who didn't take an incomplete grade? If no, what could I do and what is most likely to happen? Because I want to go to Stanford for graduate school, that too for their MS CS + MBA dual degree program, and otherwise I was on track for a 4.33 (A+) GPA, I was an exceptional student too, preparing for Putnam, had a 1590 SAT, graduated high school a year early too. I await your response, as I am scared about my future, since it's already hard enough to go to Stanford, let alone with any background negativity. I am also still 17 and a freshman in my first semester.
Thanks for your comment and for watching the channel. Upfront, my experience is on the academic side of things and I have limited experience with suspensions. Additionally, the idea of being “suspended” is not treated consistently across all campuses and could mean several things. As such, I can’t give much useful advice here aside from the grades and incomplete questions. You should also get legal counsel (and I am not an attorney) as you had a court case involved. First, know that if you fail classes for any reason, you can simply retake them to replace the F grades in most any scenario. I’d expect as a first year student you are likely dealing with a lot of Gen Ed and 100 level intro classes. Retaking those to replace an F grade with a passing grade is generally no problem unless your university has a policy hindering this. So worst case scenario: if you are still enrolled, you can just retake the classes and go to grad school as planned. Note you have options on that retake too. Take it at your current school (if you are still enrolled), take it elsewhere and transfer it to your current school, or simply transfer to another school. You as a student can always request an incomplete grade and the final decision falls to the faculty, their department, and their dean. It’s hard to know how your faculty would vote in this case as incompletes are often reserved for unexpected medical issues or emergencies rather than a suspension, even if temporary. Note if you are suspended for the semester, my guess is that you are unlikely to be granted an incomplete grade but I don’t know the full context here so it is hard to give advice. However do see the note above about retaking the courses. Good luck on this scenario. I would not be worried about the grad school part right now btw. You can fix this semester whether at your current campus or at another school and go to grad school as planned. That’s so far in the future that it shouldn’t be an issue as long as you do well in future semesters and have a strong application. And note if needed your application letter can always explain an imperfect first semester if needed. It is surprisingly common.
@@dr.maples thank you so much for the instant reply. As for the court case, I did get an attorney, and the legal side of the things have been resolved. I am afraid to retake classes, because it might show on my transcripts that I failed them initially, even though I very well and easily could've passed them with flying colors if I wasn't suspended. So an I grade would be perfect-- because I could finish the entire coursework in a day if need be. For more context, I am an international student, and I go to ASU-Tempe campus. As for the suspension, it has been going on since forever. The incident occurred on October 7th, 2024, and I received the interim suspension on October 14th, 2024. The investigation concluded on December 2nd, 2024, and I await for the final decision from the dean. My query is what do you believe the best course of action would be? I just want the academic side to be resolved as soon as possible, with minimal long term impact. I want to "erase" this incident if possible. Just like the judge dismissed the case because I was justified in self-defense, and my record will be sealed and expunged, I want at least a similar outcome from the university too man. I was doing so well, then life threw this.
@ Glad the info is helpful and sorry to hear you are going through a very rough experience. At this point I would imagine the semester is ending or close to ending, so one option would be to request an incomplete due to the suspension and lack of decision from the administration. It sounds like you can’t do any class work or attend classes due to the suspension and are awaiting their decision. If the court case found this was self-defense one would hope the university investigation would have a similar or same finding and be supportive of an incomplete to make you whole following their investigation. There also are no fees that I’ve seen or consequences I’ve experienced for students asking for an incomplete. In a worst case scenario they simply say “no” so you go to option 2, which would be retaking the classes to remove the failed grades. Do you have a campus contact like a department chair that you are working with and getting information from at this time? If so, it could be helpful to check in with them to see if there is more information on the pending decision. That would also be a first step for asking for incomplete grades in your classes. Be sure here to follow any policies on who you can/cannot contact while on suspension. Generally you would write your professor first but given the situation just be sure you don’t violate any rules regarding the suspension. I personally wouldn’t worry about the transcript issue you noted. Could someone see that retake on your transcript?:Yes, that is possible. Is a it likely scenario that someone would actively be looking for this?: No, at least not in my experiences. Folks looking at your transcripts are doing so for one of a few options. 1. They are advising you for classes to be taken on your degree. 2. When applying to grad school, they are verifying you have a Bachelor degree and have taken specific classes possibly required for Master/Doctorate admission. 3. When transferring classes between universities they are assigning the transferred classes new class numbers and names to match the receiving university’s course catalog. That’s really it. And in my experience there is a separation between your transcript and the graduate faculty considering your application. The faculty are looking at your application materials (letter, CV) while the graduate school advisors have verified you have a Bachelor degree and qualify for admission to a program. Even if they do see it, I’m not sure they would have a negative judgement. First semesters are rough and I’ve seen many students fail their entire first semester, take a semester off or transfer to a new school, and then finish their degree without issue. Let me know how things go on the decision and ask questions anytime.
@@dr.maples Thank-you for replying again, it is very comforting to hear that my chances aren't completely ruined at my dream of going to Stanford for graduate school. And yes, I am allowed to contact my case investigator, and dean of students. However when I called the dean of students, I was told to mail them. So I emailed them, and they re-routed me back to my case investigator, who is not providing me a definitive timeline. So I emailed the vice president of student services on Friday evening, to escalate it; it's only Monday today, and I understand the vice president of student services would be busy, so I will wait until Wednesday. For either-- the vice president to reply, or the dean to come out with the final decision. Do you recommend me mailing my case investigator too to ask what about my grades? If yes, what do I say? As for emailing my professor, I have wanted to do that for the past 8 weeks, but as per the interim suspension, I am not allowed to contact any of my professors for any reasons, or be on ASU owned property outside of scheduled meetings. I know it's all just a formality, because it also said an administrative hold has been placed on my account, but there is none. However, still, I just want it to end, and get back on track. Also in your experience have you seen such similar cases? If yes, whats the common outcome? Because I am as anxious as I have ever been.
@M4W07 in that case I would stick to writing the case investigator here. Your hands are somewhat bound here as you absolutely need to follow the terms of the suspension whatever they may be. That said, incompletes are something that can be done retroactively if this case goes beyond the semester’s end. As such the best you can do right now is await that decision. I was on the faculty side of things so aside from supporting students in plagiarism cases, I don’t have a comparable case to guess what the future holds. That said: your future isn’t ruined here. This is a moment in time that will pass and ultimately can be fixed whether by retaking classes or even starting anew at another university.
so if i have turned in the assignment I was supposed to turn in and I pass that assignment. Do I still receive full credit for the course? or does your grade stay incomplete
@rico ransom this is a great question. Incomplete grades are built around an incomplete contract at most schools and that contract outlines exactly what you must do to complete the course. Once you complete the item (or sometimes items) listed on that contract, that completes the course. The professor then calculates your grade as they would at the end of any semester. As long as you have the points to pass the class you get a letter grade and you get your credit hours for completing the course. So in your case, yes it sounds like you are done and will get your letter grade (which replaces the I in your transcript) and your credit hours. After that there will be no indication of an incomplete in your grade transcript, just whatever letter grade you received in the class. It is a good idea to contact the instructor and make sure they received the assignment and have submitted your grade as that last step often requires some extra paperwork. Congrats on finishing your incomplete! Thanks for watching and please share the channel with your friends and classmates.
I am taking an Incomplete for a grade but I cannot let it slip to an F. The emergency situation was I couldn't find actors for my short film. (Our theater department was suffering and everyone had this issue) the professor suggested I take an Incomplete. I have a 100% in the class already but this film is a lot of points.
@gruesomenoodles yeah this sounds like a logical case for an incomplete. The professor sees an issue that's keeping you from getting the grade you deserve here, so they've extended a great offer. I'd take it based on what you have here, then just make sure you follow up and complete it. Make sure to read the contract carefully so you know the deadlines, too. Thanks for sharing this and thanks for watching!
I got suspended from my university because I got in to a fight with my roommate who was racist, and still am suspended, so my grades are falling to E, in some classes they are A. My university has completed conducting the investigation but I have not received a final decision. I have escalated the issue to the Vice President of student services because I haven't received the final decision. Although the court has dismissed the case, and I am a 100% free, my university is doing its own separate investigation.
However, my question is, could I apply for an incomplete grade in such circumstances? If yes, one more question, will my transcript be any different than a student who didn't take an incomplete grade? If no, what could I do and what is most likely to happen?
Because I want to go to Stanford for graduate school, that too for their MS CS + MBA dual degree program, and otherwise I was on track for a 4.33 (A+) GPA, I was an exceptional student too, preparing for Putnam, had a 1590 SAT, graduated high school a year early too. I await your response, as I am scared about my future, since it's already hard enough to go to Stanford, let alone with any background negativity. I am also still 17 and a freshman in my first semester.
Thanks for your comment and for watching the channel. Upfront, my experience is on the academic side of things and I have limited experience with suspensions. Additionally, the idea of being “suspended” is not treated consistently across all campuses and could mean several things. As such, I can’t give much useful advice here aside from the grades and incomplete questions. You should also get legal counsel (and I am not an attorney) as you had a court case involved.
First, know that if you fail classes for any reason, you can simply retake them to replace the F grades in most any scenario. I’d expect as a first year student you are likely dealing with a lot of Gen Ed and 100 level intro classes. Retaking those to replace an F grade with a passing grade is generally no problem unless your university has a policy hindering this. So worst case scenario: if you are still enrolled, you can just retake the classes and go to grad school as planned. Note you have options on that retake too. Take it at your current school (if you are still enrolled), take it elsewhere and transfer it to your current school, or simply transfer to another school.
You as a student can always request an incomplete grade and the final decision falls to the faculty, their department, and their dean. It’s hard to know how your faculty would vote in this case as incompletes are often reserved for unexpected medical issues or emergencies rather than a suspension, even if temporary. Note if you are suspended for the semester, my guess is that you are unlikely to be granted an incomplete grade but I don’t know the full context here so it is hard to give advice. However do see the note above about retaking the courses.
Good luck on this scenario. I would not be worried about the grad school part right now btw. You can fix this semester whether at your current campus or at another school and go to grad school as planned. That’s so far in the future that it shouldn’t be an issue as long as you do well in future semesters and have a strong application. And note if needed your application letter can always explain an imperfect first semester if needed. It is surprisingly common.
@@dr.maples thank you so much for the instant reply. As for the court case, I did get an attorney, and the legal side of the things have been resolved.
I am afraid to retake classes, because it might show on my transcripts that I failed them initially, even though I very well and easily could've passed them with flying colors if I wasn't suspended. So an I grade would be perfect-- because I could finish the entire coursework in a day if need be.
For more context, I am an international student, and I go to ASU-Tempe campus. As for the suspension, it has been going on since forever. The incident occurred on October 7th, 2024, and I received the interim suspension on October 14th, 2024. The investigation concluded on December 2nd, 2024, and I await for the final decision from the dean.
My query is what do you believe the best course of action would be?
I just want the academic side to be resolved as soon as possible, with minimal long term impact. I want to "erase" this incident if possible. Just like the judge dismissed the case because I was justified in self-defense, and my record will be sealed and expunged, I want at least a similar outcome from the university too man. I was doing so well, then life threw this.
@ Glad the info is helpful and sorry to hear you are going through a very rough experience.
At this point I would imagine the semester is ending or close to ending, so one option would be to request an incomplete due to the suspension and lack of decision from the administration. It sounds like you can’t do any class work or attend classes due to the suspension and are awaiting their decision. If the court case found this was self-defense one would hope the university investigation would have a similar or same finding and be supportive of an incomplete to make you whole following their investigation. There also are no fees that I’ve seen or consequences I’ve experienced for students asking for an incomplete. In a worst case scenario they simply say “no” so you go to option 2, which would be retaking the classes to remove the failed grades.
Do you have a campus contact like a department chair that you are working with and getting information from at this time? If so, it could be helpful to check in with them to see if there is more information on the pending decision. That would also be a first step for asking for incomplete grades in your classes. Be sure here to follow any policies on who you can/cannot contact while on suspension. Generally you would write your professor first but given the situation just be sure you don’t violate any rules regarding the suspension.
I personally wouldn’t worry about the transcript issue you noted. Could someone see that retake on your transcript?:Yes, that is possible. Is a it likely scenario that someone would actively be looking for this?: No, at least not in my experiences. Folks looking at your transcripts are doing so for one of a few options. 1. They are advising you for classes to be taken on your degree. 2. When applying to grad school, they are verifying you have a Bachelor degree and have taken specific classes possibly required for Master/Doctorate admission. 3. When transferring classes between universities they are assigning the transferred classes new class numbers and names to match the receiving university’s course catalog. That’s really it. And in my experience there is a separation between your transcript and the graduate faculty considering your application. The faculty are looking at your application materials (letter, CV) while the graduate school advisors have verified you have a Bachelor degree and qualify for admission to a program. Even if they do see it, I’m not sure they would have a negative judgement. First semesters are rough and I’ve seen many students fail their entire first semester, take a semester off or transfer to a new school, and then finish their degree without issue.
Let me know how things go on the decision and ask questions anytime.
@@dr.maples Thank-you for replying again, it is very comforting to hear that my chances aren't completely ruined at my dream of going to Stanford for graduate school.
And yes, I am allowed to contact my case investigator, and dean of students. However when I called the dean of students, I was told to mail them. So I emailed them, and they re-routed me back to my case investigator, who is not providing me a definitive timeline. So I emailed the vice president of student services on Friday evening, to escalate it; it's only Monday today, and I understand the vice president of student services would be busy, so I will wait until Wednesday. For either-- the vice president to reply, or the dean to come out with the final decision.
Do you recommend me mailing my case investigator too to ask what about my grades? If yes, what do I say?
As for emailing my professor, I have wanted to do that for the past 8 weeks, but as per the interim suspension, I am not allowed to contact any of my professors for any reasons, or be on ASU owned property outside of scheduled meetings. I know it's all just a formality, because it also said an administrative hold has been placed on my account, but there is none. However, still, I just want it to end, and get back on track.
Also in your experience have you seen such similar cases? If yes, whats the common outcome? Because I am as anxious as I have ever been.
@M4W07 in that case I would stick to writing the case investigator here. Your hands are somewhat bound here as you absolutely need to follow the terms of the suspension whatever they may be. That said, incompletes are something that can be done retroactively if this case goes beyond the semester’s end. As such the best you can do right now is await that decision.
I was on the faculty side of things so aside from supporting students in plagiarism cases, I don’t have a comparable case to guess what the future holds. That said: your future isn’t ruined here. This is a moment in time that will pass and ultimately can be fixed whether by retaking classes or even starting anew at another university.
so if i have turned in the assignment I was supposed to turn in and I pass that assignment. Do I still receive full credit for the course? or does your grade stay incomplete
@rico ransom this is a great question. Incomplete grades are built around an incomplete contract at most schools and that contract outlines exactly what you must do to complete the course. Once you complete the item (or sometimes items) listed on that contract, that completes the course. The professor then calculates your grade as they would at the end of any semester. As long as you have the points to pass the class you get a letter grade and you get your credit hours for completing the course. So in your case, yes it sounds like you are done and will get your letter grade (which replaces the I in your transcript) and your credit hours. After that there will be no indication of an incomplete in your grade transcript, just whatever letter grade you received in the class.
It is a good idea to contact the instructor and make sure they received the assignment and have submitted your grade as that last step often requires some extra paperwork.
Congrats on finishing your incomplete! Thanks for watching and please share the channel with your friends and classmates.
@@dr.maples ok thank you so much..i went into a complete panic about that in ny situation. Thanks for the clarification
@rico ransom no problem and happy to help!