If you leave the zero water filter in the sunlight or heat, it creates a byproduct that smells like fish. You need to keep the filter out of the sun and heat to avoid this, obviously. If you make that mistake and get the fishy smell, you'll need to wash the container multiple times to remove the smell. It's a hard smell to remove. But, after that, it's a great filter.
On a side note, I really like that palette shelving unit idea in the background. I am going to do that in my workspace. I have one of these filters here at home and am trying it for the first time in my coffee maker. This sounds promising. Thank you.
I use the proper prone system… and I then put the water through the Zerowater unit. The water is the best water I ever have drank filtered from the tap.
Do you guys add some minerals back to it or just use it as is? Talking about alternative brewing methods. I've been adding some bottled mineral water back to get to 50-60 TDS on the meter they gave, not sure if it's worth it and just go with ZeroWater only
@@moocin don't worry about the mineral thing. Yes- ZeroWater removes EVERYTHING; the bad stuff and the good stuff but the minerals that are removed are easily replaced with a balanced diet. In other words- if you are depending upon water for your daily mineral intake- you got a serious problem with your eating habits. Enjoy the clean, healthy water- even my cat notices the difference- she drinks her whole bowl of water instead of leaving more than half of it. And it all started when I started using ZeroWater. Best of health to everybody.
@@lynskyrd no, I'm just talking about perfect water for coffee only, if it isn't better to add back some minerals for better extraction/flavours but if you say you have amazing results with just plain ZeroWater I might try that, thanks!
@@moocin with respect to coffee; hey, different people like their coffee different ways-- sugar, no sugar, cream, no cream. I'm a medium roast- cream - one level teaspoon of sugar guy--- to each it's his/her own. If I were you- like you said- just try ZeroWater- don't add anything else other than what you usually add. I guarantee you'll notice a better tasting coffee; especially if the tap water in your area initially has a high TDS. My area it's 130-210 . Like I mentioned in my earlier post- my cat noticed- but she doesn't do coffee :)
if you use Zero water in an espresso machine, you will eventually strip and pit your boiler, because your boiler requires certain elements to be present in the water when it heats the water. If these elements are not present in the water, they will be leeched from your boiler.
the problem is TAP water use disinfecting chemicalsthat ruin the zero water filter. Once the filter smells like fish the fitler is junk. The filter can not sit under water. And it will turn sour eventually when out of water. It has to do with ion exchange. The problem is your water company is using Chloramine!
It can - but it depends on the quality of your tap water. For most tap water, it should be fine. but if your tap water is crazy hard (some towns around us it's 20+gpg which is crazy) it might be too much.
Are you saying that Ro water or the zero water is enough to make a good brew or do you need to add back minerals? I have an Express Ro system and my water makes my coffee bitter and caustic tasting.
Which should I prioritize first when on a budget, the water filter or the grinder? I have the water pitcher that is the less expensive one, and a grinder with the press down top.
If you're on a budget, I'd consider the water filter first. The Zero Water pitcher I had there was only $39. An entry level Baratza Encore is going to run you $169 new.
Yeah but you didn't say what TDS you are shooting for? if zero is too low, then what is good? could we just add a few ice cubes from the fridge to raise the TDS?
Yeah - shoulda mentioned that. You can add some tap water. A TDS of less than 5 gpg or 85 ppm is ideal. But the makeup of that 85 ppm is probably more important than the actual number. But that's a whole nuther video....
Zero water is the best but the filter is perhaps the most expensive above all else. I'm using one, and in my area I live (Indianapolis) I have to change it every 2 months or less.
Some of us have figured out a work around for this. You buy two systems, and pour A info B. That way B is hardly having to filter any contaminants, and will last a long time. B, is your is your drinking water. A, is doing almost all the filtering but you can use it even after the water from it is measuring over 50ppm, because B will filter the rest. B is still seeing very low contaminants. When it's time to replace the filter in A, just swap B's filter into it, and the new one in B if you want. Then continue this rotation. You can make a few filters last about 10x using this method, and still have near 0ppm water. This has been proven to work out other discussions.
@@debbiedogs1 I've been doing it this way. Ultimately all the water goes through the first pitcher. The advantage is that you can use it a lot longer then the second filter sees less impurities than with straight tap water. you don't have to throw the filters away after they reach 10ppm. They still have purpose as a prefilter.
Depending on where you live, a zero water filter will last maybe 2 weeks. I live in Texas and water -Water from the outside faucet 315+PPM -Brita filter 265 PPM -zero water 0 PPM
@@arthurgmraes Sorry - just getting back to this. We did a video on this you can check out. Quick and easy version is here: th-cam.com/video/thmDQRP1mCM/w-d-xo.html LIttle more detailed version is here: th-cam.com/video/0JbQYScITFg/w-d-xo.html
ZeroWater is awesome and does exactly what it says it will do. I didn't believe at first that a table-top filter could be that effective, but I used my own TDS meter and confirmed I was at 000. ZeroWater is basically reverse osmosis on the countertop (without having to buy an RO system).
I installed a water filter in my house an inline water filter. And under the sink where we wash dishes I installed a reverse osmosis system. And I noticed that the reverse osmosis system made my coffee very bitter and I drink Black rifle decaf. And literally called Black rifle wondering what was the matter with my coffee and they had mentioned that reverse osmosis might make the coffee bitter. And they were right! So after sending me out a new bag of coffee two bags of coffee rather I went back to using my Brita and the coffee is perfect and that was over 18 months ago. So I'm afraid that zero water is going to be just like reverse osmosis and take out too much of the water and make it too clean. I heard some impurities make for better coffee
If you use the Zero water filters, you're definitely going to want to add something to the water if you use the Zero water filters. You could use Third Wave Water or you could make your own additive with something like epsom salt and baking soda. That's what I've done and we'll probably do a video on that in the near future.
So, if I buy the ZeroWater, then I need to add Third Wave Water?
I’m new in the coffee world
I use the Barista Hustle recipe for espresso with my ZeroWater since by itself it tasted gross.
Yeah- you definitely need to put something in the water to make it taste good. have you checked out Lotus Coffee Products?
If you leave the zero water filter in the sunlight or heat, it creates a byproduct that smells like fish. You need to keep the filter out of the sun and heat to avoid this, obviously. If you make that mistake and get the fishy smell, you'll need to wash the container multiple times to remove the smell. It's a hard smell to remove. But, after that, it's a great filter.
Thanks for that info - actually just had this happen to mine. Moved the spot where we're keeping it.
@@Freshgroundroast keep it in the fridge
On a side note, I really like that palette shelving unit idea in the background. I am going to do that in my workspace.
I have one of these filters here at home and am trying it for the first time in my coffee maker. This sounds promising.
Thank you.
Very interesting, Watched a few youtube trying to decide which filter to get, next stop Amazon... Thnx
do you think it would be good to add half zero water and half tap water in the water tank of the Keurig?
Have you made the video on homemade third wave water yet you mentioned? Would be interested to know this.
It's coming!
I use the proper prone system… and I then put the water through the Zerowater unit. The water is the best water I ever have drank filtered from the tap.
Been using Zero Water for at least 5 years - The best !
absolutely- JUST got my ZeroWater last week- my coffee is AMAZING. Perfect taste with my Keurig brewer.
Do you guys add some minerals back to it or just use it as is? Talking about alternative brewing methods. I've been adding some bottled mineral water back to get to 50-60 TDS on the meter they gave, not sure if it's worth it and just go with ZeroWater only
@@moocin don't worry about the mineral thing. Yes- ZeroWater removes EVERYTHING; the bad stuff and the good stuff but the minerals that are removed are easily replaced with a balanced diet. In other words- if you are depending upon water for your daily mineral intake- you got a serious problem with your eating habits. Enjoy the clean, healthy water- even my cat notices the difference- she drinks her whole bowl of water instead of leaving more than half of it. And it all started when I started using ZeroWater. Best of health to everybody.
@@lynskyrd no, I'm just talking about perfect water for coffee only, if it isn't better to add back some minerals for better extraction/flavours but if you say you have amazing results with just plain ZeroWater I might try that, thanks!
@@moocin with respect to coffee; hey, different people like their coffee different ways-- sugar, no sugar, cream, no cream. I'm a medium roast- cream - one level teaspoon of sugar guy--- to each it's his/her own. If I were you- like you said- just try ZeroWater- don't add anything else other than what you usually add. I guarantee you'll notice a better tasting coffee; especially if the tap water in your area initially has a high TDS. My area it's 130-210 . Like I mentioned in my earlier post- my cat noticed- but she doesn't do coffee :)
if you use Zero water in an espresso machine, you will eventually strip and pit your boiler, because your boiler requires certain elements to be present in the water when it heats the water. If these elements are not present in the water, they will be leeched from your boiler.
Yep - distilled water in espresso machines is definitely not recommended.
Use 3WW for espresso to protect boiler and improve water taste
the problem is TAP water use disinfecting chemicalsthat ruin the zero water filter. Once the filter smells like fish the fitler is junk. The filter can not sit under water. And it will turn sour eventually when out of water. It has to do with ion exchange. The problem is your water company is using Chloramine!
What about mixing back with a little of tap water to get the hardness a little back up. Would that make any sense?
It can - but it depends on the quality of your tap water. For most tap water, it should be fine. but if your tap water is crazy hard (some towns around us it's 20+gpg which is crazy) it might be too much.
Are you saying that Ro water or the zero water is enough to make a good brew or do you need to add back minerals? I have an Express Ro system and my water makes my coffee bitter and caustic tasting.
Which should I prioritize first when on a budget, the water filter or the grinder? I have the water pitcher that is the less expensive one, and a grinder with the press down top.
If you're on a budget, I'd consider the water filter first. The Zero Water pitcher I had there was only $39. An entry level Baratza Encore is going to run you $169 new.
I thought you drink it like a normal human seeing as how normal humans are going to drink it like normal humans
Yeah but you didn't say what TDS you are shooting for? if zero is too low, then what is good? could we just add a few ice cubes from the fridge to raise the TDS?
Yeah - shoulda mentioned that. You can add some tap water. A TDS of less than 5 gpg or 85 ppm is ideal. But the makeup of that 85 ppm is probably more important than the actual number. But that's a whole nuther video....
@@Freshgroundroast due to our hardwater out here I generally use zero water and some softened water
I guessed which cup was which by the amount of coffee around the inside of the lip of each cup
We used to use the zero water filter. So we used to add a little salt. And It improved the taste
Zero water is the best but the filter is perhaps the most expensive above all else. I'm using one, and in my area I live (Indianapolis) I have to change it every 2 months or less.
Totally agree. I'm seeing about the same time frame on mine.
Some of us have figured out a work around for this. You buy two systems, and pour A info B. That way B is hardly having to filter any contaminants, and will last a long time. B, is your is your drinking water. A, is doing almost all the filtering but you can use it even after the water from it is measuring over 50ppm, because B will filter the rest. B is still seeing very low contaminants. When it's time to replace the filter in A, just swap B's filter into it, and the new one in B if you want. Then continue this rotation. You can make a few filters last about 10x using this method, and still have near 0ppm water. This has been proven to work out other discussions.
@@qua7771 - Love this, I read about it before and am setting up 2 Zerowater filter pitchers to do it this way.
@@debbiedogs1 I've been doing it this way. Ultimately all the water goes through the first pitcher. The advantage is that you can use it a lot longer then the second filter sees less impurities than with straight tap water. you don't have to throw the filters away after they reach 10ppm. They still have purpose as a prefilter.
Use a zero water faucets filter 1st to prefilter it, then run it through the zero water pitcher filter it'll last alot longer
Depending on where you live, a zero water filter will last maybe 2 weeks. I live in Texas and water
-Water from the outside faucet 315+PPM
-Brita filter 265 PPM
-zero water 0 PPM
Be careful, we thought our filters were plugged after a couple weeks but it was just trapped air. Beat on it a little and like new!
Your pitcher being a Brita filter?
Eric! Thanks for your experiments.
Just to recap - you recommend adding 3WW packet to Zero Water - right?
Matthew - Yes, absolutely. Either 3WW or something else to add minerals to Zero Water.
@@Freshgroundroast what mineral do you recommend adding? Epson salt? And what quantity?
@@arthurgmraes Sorry - just getting back to this. We did a video on this you can check out.
Quick and easy version is here: th-cam.com/video/thmDQRP1mCM/w-d-xo.html
LIttle more detailed version is here: th-cam.com/video/0JbQYScITFg/w-d-xo.html
ZeroWater is awesome and does exactly what it says it will do. I didn't believe at first that a table-top filter could be that effective, but I used my own TDS meter and confirmed I was at 000. ZeroWater is basically reverse osmosis on the countertop (without having to buy an RO system).
Totally agree. It really is impressive how much it pulls out of the water. And compared to the Brita - woah.
great !! Thanks. Just bought first Zero Water system today. Am an espresso fan.
Awesome! Let us know how it works for you!
I installed a water filter in my house an inline water filter. And under the sink where we wash dishes I installed a reverse osmosis system. And I noticed that the reverse osmosis system made my coffee very bitter and I drink Black rifle decaf. And literally called Black rifle wondering what was the matter with my coffee and they had mentioned that reverse osmosis might make the coffee bitter. And they were right! So after sending me out a new bag of coffee two bags of coffee rather I went back to using my Brita and the coffee is perfect and that was over 18 months ago. So I'm afraid that zero water is going to be just like reverse osmosis and take out too much of the water and make it too clean. I heard some impurities make for better coffee
If you use the Zero water filters, you're definitely going to want to add something to the water if you use the Zero water filters. You could use Third Wave Water or you could make your own additive with something like epsom salt and baking soda. That's what I've done and we'll probably do a video on that in the near future.
@@Freshgroundroast thx
Who drinks their coffee with a spoon..
Yup lost me when he started inhaling the coffee with a spoon