Cool thing to study, but the total caffeine intake in the study was incredibly high at ~550mg for a 68kg rider. That is A LOT of coffee to be consuming after training. Would be curious to know if a much smaller dose of coffee/caffeine has any effect.
@@suisinghoraceho2403 550mg is the total caffeine content of the (three) coffee drinks administered in the study for a rider who would weight ~68kg. A "typical" coffee drink is ~160-200mg. One 16oz Rockstar/Monster Energy drink is 160mg, some can be as much as 240mg. Most caffeinated gels/gummies used in endurance nutrition are 100mg or less per dose. So, if you are an average 150-160lb cyclist, it would be like drinking ~3-4 double espressos after your ride, or 3-4 energy drinks.
11:50 inaccurate. The glucose is already in the muscle when acted on by GS. GS does not have a direct role with the transport of glucose in muscle cells. The synthase part of its name tells you it is involved with the conversion of glucose in the muscle into glycogen i.e. "synthesis"
What would you recommend in my case? I have Iron deficiency and usually suplement just after training, thats the moment where the body absorbs the most as far as I understand, but caffeine has a fight with Iron, wich one would be more important? Or should I just move iron to another moment on the day.
If it doesn't cause you discomfort, try taking the iron supplement first thing in the morning on an empty stomach with vitamin C (assuming you aren't consuming caffeine as soon as you wake up). Then, you can experiment with caffeine and carbs after the workout! If you feel like letting us know if you notice a difference, we'd love to hear form you on the forum!
That’s why they say WHOLE milk is one of the best things you can have after a long/hard ride. I drink 2 cups after every ride since I’ve done that I’ve seen really big gains
Can we get someone with a robust background in training and science. The bro-science and telling us the abstract or summary of studies is getting old. Need someone that can talk intelligently about these complex topics.
You must have watched a different podcast to me.. the hosts went through the methodology in detail and tried to explain the whole paper to a general audience. One of the hosts has a BS in sports and exercise science. If you want the content of the paper explained to a greater depth you should just read it.
Here's the link to the study. Worth a read!: trainerroad.cc/loureiro2021
Cool thing to study, but the total caffeine intake in the study was incredibly high at ~550mg for a 68kg rider. That is A LOT of coffee to be consuming after training. Would be curious to know if a much smaller dose of coffee/caffeine has any effect.
In terms of cups, how much is that? Also 550mg, is that the dry Bean weight or finished coffee weight?
@@suisinghoraceho2403 550mg is the total caffeine content of the (three) coffee drinks administered in the study for a rider who would weight ~68kg. A "typical" coffee drink is ~160-200mg. One 16oz Rockstar/Monster Energy drink is 160mg, some can be as much as 240mg.
Most caffeinated gels/gummies used in endurance nutrition are 100mg or less per dose. So, if you are an average 150-160lb cyclist, it would be like drinking ~3-4 double espressos after your ride, or 3-4 energy drinks.
Depending on your caffiene metabolism you might cook your sleep for the night though. Which would impair recovery. Half life for coffee is long.
broccoli can help clear it
@mrmrmaples good point sulforophane is amazing! Plus all the other stuff in broccoli
11:50 inaccurate. The glucose is already in the muscle when acted on by GS. GS does not have a direct role with the transport of glucose in muscle cells. The synthase part of its name tells you it is involved with the conversion of glucose in the muscle into glycogen i.e. "synthesis"
That caffeine amount is crazy
Will this work for after a swimming or weights work out?
does this work without milk? is milk even the best source for carb replenishment?
Ok now I can listen!
'60 grams of fart.' That is an intense amount!
Would you call it...
A...
Crap ton?
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That's a shart😂
When you can’t turn 60 RPM at 60%, that is brutal.
17:33 I hope these individuals were well awarded!!! 😮😂
But what was Chad's vo2max?
What would you recommend in my case? I have Iron deficiency and usually suplement just after training, thats the moment where the body absorbs the most as far as I understand, but caffeine has a fight with Iron, wich one would be more important? Or should I just move iron to another moment on the day.
If it doesn't cause you discomfort, try taking the iron supplement first thing in the morning on an empty stomach with vitamin C (assuming you aren't consuming caffeine as soon as you wake up). Then, you can experiment with caffeine and carbs after the workout! If you feel like letting us know if you notice a difference, we'd love to hear form you on the forum!
And remember to avoid having iron every day. The body releases hepcidin after iron consumption to effectively prevent more absorption for 24hrs
Makes sense that pros will have a Coke right after a race.
Jeeez, that cause they are filling sponsor duty, nothing more.
Not necessarily. Whatever floats your boat. Some have fanta or other soft drinks. In the end of the day. Sugar
Brevity please
Sarah!
Really digging the night time road maintenance industrial lighting the girl is using.
Hahaha😂
We'll work on that for next time 👍
We need chad back...
That’s why they say WHOLE milk is one of the best things you can have after a long/hard ride. I drink 2 cups after every ride since I’ve done that I’ve seen really big gains
Can we get someone with a robust background in training and science. The bro-science and telling us the abstract or summary of studies is getting old.
Need someone that can talk intelligently about these complex topics.
You must have watched a different podcast to me.. the hosts went through the methodology in detail and tried to explain the whole paper to a general audience. One of the hosts has a BS in sports and exercise science. If you want the content of the paper explained to a greater depth you should just read it.
Disagree, they did a good job
Wow! I find these podcasts extremely helpful