Cheap Frontalini concertinas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- To have 20 button concertina more like what a sailor would play, I got a bunch of cheap ones and used the best parts of each. The one that does not play the high-B on the right-hand G-row is playable, and is played in these 2 videos:
• Video
• Walter Bulwer's Polka ...
I sold that one, and kept the one whose High B that I did get working. Technically, these are USA-refurbished, Italian-Made German concertinas.
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Nice! I'm working on getting an old Rosetti Rambler back into shape, it's almost identical to your boxes here :)
The 20 Button Anglo/German is not to be underrated. There's a lot that can be played on them with a bit of effort!
Good on you, 'interesting video. I have three English concertinas (Stagi tenor trebles and a Lachanal) and often tinker with them, e.g. remove pinkie guide, made thumb strap swivel, under-knee strap for stability and to increase bellows capacity by 30% because of extra pull. Keen one day to create a sculpted keyboard for natural easier playing that follows arc of fingers. And make one that's got all that and is electronic instead of physical levers and reeds. I've seen some very good electronic ones. They could lead to very cheap, excellent instruments that school kids could afford and buy as much as they currently buy guitars. Play concertinas with guitars round campfires, singing, etc.
Bruce Thomson in New Zealand.
Thank you for the straight-up and honest answers. I sent the Hohner back, but Amazon will replace and not refund at this point. My goal is to play simple but fun songs while sailing my boat in San Diego Harbor. I truly have tortoise learning speed, so this will be a project. Give an internet click if you are in the area and perhaps you can play while I sail Heidi.
Cool, like get out there to sail with you. Needs to be a priority for 2014.
Belated thanks for this interesting video. I know this was made some time ago now, but it may still foster a misconception for beginners looking for a playable cheap box. I have had several Scholers and two Frontalinis and the latter are much better instruments, both in their reeds and in their mechanisms and parts. The Frontalinis resemble some of the Scholers from a distance, but are actually decent instruments with good accordion reeds. The Scholers are crude in comparison, though some are better than others, and can be fun to play, especially solo. They aren't much good in a session though.
I do have videos about Scholers, which are intended to show people what kinds of problems they have. I guess I did not show how I needed to open them up and glue small pieces of wood in them to make them playable, but I did show how Scholers are always out of tune with the rest of the world.
WIth this video along with the Scholer videos, I intended to show that people are better off with Frontalinis, which so far have always been in tune. It's as if Frontalinis have been the best kept secret in the concertina world.
Yes, they are great little boxes. I love the one I use now. They are less common than the Scholers though. All the best.
Was kinda hoping you could send me some place to buy one
There is a type of Hohner which is almost as good as a Frontalini. It is NOT the Hohner D40. It is the Hohner International. I have one that is C/G and has 2 reeds per note tuned an octave apart. The only place that I have ever seen any such thing is on eBay. I just saw a Hohner International recently. But eBay is the only place I have seen the Frontalinis too.
@@senoJCA13 thank you
Hello, can you help me? I have a concertina that even if I don't press any botom, it gives a tone how I can repair it, thank you very much from Costa Rica.
The likely cause is that for one or more of the notes, the pallet is not covering the hole that lets the sound through. The pallet and lever could be stuck, or it might have been moved off-center. First, determine which side the sound is coming from. Then, so that side, unscrew the screw that are holding the end on. (Make sure you keep track of which screw was from which hole).
So carefully take the end off and take a look what is happening. You might need glue in other pieces of wood in to limit how far the buttons travel, or to guide them so they don't wiggle.
Thank you very much , here in Costa Rica is not one single place that can fix concertinas I need to learn how to fixed my self.
HI. I recently bought a concertina, a bit pricey, for what i know now. It came brandless but it looks almost exactly like one of these in your video. The thing is that this Frontalini is an italian brand, and this one I got says Made in German Democratic Republic. Can it be? or it could be a differnet brand from Germany that makes them very similar to the Frontalini models?
CincoMilÁrboles The 2 on the left are NOT Frontalini ones but are East German Scholar ones. These are the ones that I discuss first, and then describe what I do not like about them, and then I talk about why I like like the Frontalinis better. What you are describing sounds like the Scholar ones, not the Frontalini ones. I hope you did not pay more than $200 for it.
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Alex, Well Done! Do you have an on-line, or video lesson plan I can buy? Santa gave me a 20 button Hohner, and several button stick although it is brand new. Do you recommend returning it and getting an older used Frotanlini?
I am not sure how available new Frontalinis are, and the ones I git each had something wrong due to lots of use. So I took them all apart and then assembled to good ones from the best parts. I also patched up bellow holes.
I recommend that you sell or return the Hohner, and get a Stagi. Two places to buy a Stagi are Baldoni Accordions in Wisconsin and the Button Box in Massachusetts. Both of those places inspect their Stagis after arrival, and fix the factory defects before selling them. They might be more expensive than Hohners, but they provide more enjoyment and less frustration, so the extra $$ are worth it.
If you like to tinker, and you are good building, repairing and tweaking things, then you might try keeping the Hohner, and opening it up and modifying it to make it work better.
@@senoJCA13 where are you located Mr?
@@umkhalisimbatha2032 United States. Middle part known as the "Midwest". Chicago area.
And I paid about 140 american dollars for it :/
CincoMilÁrboles That is not a high price, if it actually works and was playable when you got it. In fact, I think I actually paid that much for one of the Scholars. The Frontalini ones I bought were cheaper because they did not work when I bought them. I took maybe 4 them apart, chose the best parts, and then assembled the parts to build 2 that actually work. Actually, the East German Scholar ones were not very playable either, I had to take them apart and glue in some extra wood pieces to keep the buttons from dipping too low. I have some videos about the Scholar ones too.
Alexander C. Jones HI. Thanks for replying. I invetigated more, and I thought it was a Scholer too, but then I bumped into some images that confirmed me the brand is actually Klingenthal. It looks exactly like this image, but it has 2 separations instead of three www.njuskalo.hr/image-bigger/harmonike/concertina-klingenthal-20-tipki-c-g-slika-38748458.jpg
CincoMilÁrboles Klingenthal is a city in what was East Germany near the Czech border, and home to the Klingenthaler Harmonikawerke where lots of accordion and concertinas were made, including the Scholars. But maybe yours is not a Scholar. The on in the picture does not have the Scholar logo on the end with the air button. If it plays well, and if it is in tune with the rest of the world (A=440), then it is not a Scholar but something better. If the levers on the inside are metal, then it is better than a Scholar.