I can't agree with this more. From being a player who tries something new each week, I have finally found a swing thought I can trust and it is based on Dana's teaching here. All I do is shift my weight to the right side, not thinking about arms or hands, then at the top or most likely before the club gets to the top, shift into the left side and swing as hard as I can. Minimal swing thoughts producing longest and straightest shots in my career, and I'm a scratch player. I guess I do have solid fundamentals in my swing, but I do think that weight to the right, then to the left really helps in creating an athletic motion and prevents spinning out.
Let me share. I’m over 60, 5’9”, but hit 270+ average for drives with not much effort, but I know what I am doing. My scores directly reflect how much I practice and play. 2 rounds per week and daily practice at the range and with the short stuff and I break par. One round per week and 2 or 3 practice sessions per week and I shoot 75 or below. One round per month and 1 or 2 practice sessions per week and 80 or less is all the better I shoot. Sam Sneed said if he missed a day of play or practice he’d take a full week of practice to get back playing his best again. If he knocked off for a week he would take a month to get back to where he was. I can attest that this is about right. (A bit of an exaggeration but not much.) Sam Sneed’s suggestion? “Do at least a little something every day to keep practicing.” He suggested just swinging the club for 10 minutes or so in the back yard if that’s all you have time to practice in a day. I love golf so you don’t have to twist my arm to do just that much practice in a day. And so that has little to do with what Brandon is talking about here. But as to what Brandon is saying; seems the swing starts from some point before just the motion of the clubhead back away from the ball. I will be exploring this. Great point. I never thought about this. Want more consistency? Be consistent in the action of even before taking the clubhead back. Seen people waggle, make a tiny press toward the target, then take it back from there. I would say this is actually advanced tweaking. Important to do though. Still not going to fix a bad swing but may make for a more consistent bad swing an so allow for low scores in spite of the swing not being super efficient or a “perfect swing.”
I can relate to what Dana talks about when you've started with fades, then learnt to score low with sling hooks. I'm in the process of unpacking that manufactured stuff and using forces and momentum much more efficiently to improve further. It's hard! Like starting again almost but boy are these conceptual discussions helping me understand. Crackin stuff!
This video is spot on. I was at the range today trying to do exactly this. It's kind of like the old school walk and swing. I want my swing to feel like the backswing is almost 'catching' the next perpetual swing (stealing from shawn clement). The more dynamic the backswing, the better the through swing. I can hit amazing shots swinging back and through without stopping, the trick is to be able to do it from a static setup. I might just honestly start taking 2 small perpetual motion swings and make my 3rd swing my actual ball strike.
Very much like a walk. The Origin of Motion creates an imbalance in order to walk. Relative to walking we have a desire to go somewhere. Striking a golf ball requires us to create an Oscillation that Originates from Core and manifests in the Hands and Feet. Proximal dictates Distal. Good Stuff
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For me personally, I think Dana is the best at what he does. I love seeing videos with him. Thanks for the content. It’s such a shame the exchange rate of our Australian dollar is so poor as I’ve looked at joining his online content many times. I think I still will at some stage he is that good. Cheers
Hogan’s waggle ‘routine’ needs more attention. He is VERY specific with it. He sets his feet looking at the target and waggles looking at the ball. He NEVER, EVER waggles looking at the target and he never ever sets his feet whilst looking at the ball. I think this is deliberate. And each element is separate in terms of what he is looking at when he does it in order to establish flow, athleticism and the up-coming club movement as you and Dana are discussing. Take a look to see for yourselves - it never varies, he never shuffles his feet looking at the ball and never waggles looking at the target.
YEA MOST PEOPLE ROTATE first...the right hip pulled back, staying on top, right shoulder just lifts and pulls back....if you do it right with athletic through motion, hands should just flow through on plane....easier said than done.
I’ve found it easier to move the body first and let the clubhead be carried along. I initiate movement with my forward knee-my left-moving inward. That starts my body turning. My arms are relaxed. I pretend the club is stuck to the ground and let it go last. You feel like your body is flinging the club into the backswing-that’s “the heave” as taught by David Lee and Dahlquist himself. It’s an easy way to get rhythm into your swing. The club more or less floats to the top and by then you’re turning your body into the downswing. Once again, through the body chain, the club is caught last and whips into and through the ball. It’s a better way to play than using muscle.
In working with a top notch instructor. I’ve implemented the backswing sensation of someone taking my club and throwing it back. So it turns my backswing into a natural/reactive type movement. How does Dana feel about that?
Yes, but the arms cannot move faster than the pivot, because you would mechanicaly decouple the club, from the rotating mass. In a dead arm swinging protocol , the pivot, takes the club back, and the centre of mass eventually falls ( or so it feels ) falling by gravity and moving in phaze, with the arms , which are also falling at the rate of gravity. This is how you strike the golf ball with 200lb + mass and not just the mass of your arms. Easy , do you think 😅
I'm struggling to get better, huge slice with driver, irons lack distance, wedges are decent, on a good contact, lob wedge has good height and carries about 85yds. Help!
@@ddahlquist 1 question for Dana. Does your website with the 200+ videos have videos that explain exactly how to accomplish what you espouse here? I have no doubt you are correct in your assessment of the forces that would make a golfer better, but for me, anyway, I need a roadmap.
I didn’t know you were in Long Beach my brother lives there. I’m in Bakersfield and my parents are in Palmdale. I usually play in those two towns. Valencia sometimes. Do you normally play in Long Beach? I would like to play golf with you some day. I just started keeping strict score cards to figure out my handicap. Only have about 8 rounds logged. I normally shoot mid 80’s
I've come to the conclusion that people in general make the golf swing WAY too complicated. If somebody trying to learn to use a hammer approached the endeavor like golfers do the golf swing (over thinking and over analyzing the body movements necessary to swing a hammer to pound a nail) he'd never learn how. Striking a golf ball well with a golf club is no more complicated than using a hammer, it really isn't. The very first thing to do is forget everything you've ever been "taught", and when I say everything, I mean everything, even grip. Just put that club in your dominate hand and then let your brain tell you what to do.
@@The_Fantasy_Arter sir, I have commented on many of his videos , both positive and negative. what would you like to me say ? Many times Brandon ask for our comments about what he is working on in his personal golf swing, many have commented correctly to help him and it seems he ignores those people. I might add, I personally have offered my experience and have reached out to him in previous videos without a response.
P.s back in the 90s I worked with 3 top 100 teachers in America. I NEVER (in my opinion ) was a good ball striker. But because getting the ball in the hole in the least amount of strokes was important to me(thats how you win in golf) is how I accomplished my goals . I remember at Mississippi State University ( I held the course record when i left at Lakeside golf course 63) and I won my first Fall Classic PGM championship ................I had a guy walk up to me and said..................You aren't any good. LOL I will admit he was a better ball striker, he probably was a better player to boot, but I knew how to get that ball in the hole.
@@The_Fantasy_Arter I might add, about two weeks before John Daley won the US Open at Crookedstick we were playing money games at MSU lake side. John loved his whiskey at 8am. :)
@@The_Fantasy_Arter P.s. in case people think I am making this up.......................John Daly friend Lenny Tester may chime in. :) along with another of my classmates whom Brandon has interviewed from MSU :)
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I can't agree with this more. From being a player who tries something new each week, I have finally found a swing thought I can trust and it is based on Dana's teaching here. All I do is shift my weight to the right side, not thinking about arms or hands, then at the top or most likely before the club gets to the top, shift into the left side and swing as hard as I can. Minimal swing thoughts producing longest and straightest shots in my career, and I'm a scratch player. I guess I do have solid fundamentals in my swing, but I do think that weight to the right, then to the left really helps in creating an athletic motion and prevents spinning out.
"I've done this before.....walking" LOL
Let me share. I’m over 60, 5’9”, but hit 270+ average for drives with not much effort, but I know what I am doing. My scores directly reflect how much I practice and play. 2 rounds per week and daily practice at the range and with the short stuff and I break par. One round per week and 2 or 3 practice sessions per week and I shoot 75 or below. One round per month and 1 or 2 practice sessions per week and 80 or less is all the better I shoot.
Sam Sneed said if he missed a day of play or practice he’d take a full week of practice to get back playing his best again. If he knocked off for a week he would take a month to get back to where he was. I can attest that this is about right. (A bit of an exaggeration but not much.)
Sam Sneed’s suggestion? “Do at least a little something every day to keep practicing.” He suggested just swinging the club for 10 minutes or so in the back yard if that’s all you have time to practice in a day. I love golf so you don’t have to twist my arm to do just that much practice in a day.
And so that has little to do with what Brandon is talking about here. But as to what Brandon is saying; seems the swing starts from some point before just the motion of the clubhead back away from the ball. I will be exploring this. Great point. I never thought about this. Want more consistency? Be consistent in the action of even before taking the clubhead back. Seen people waggle, make a tiny press toward the target, then take it back from there. I would say this is actually advanced tweaking. Important to do though. Still not going to fix a bad swing but may make for a more consistent bad swing an so allow for low scores in spite of the swing not being super efficient or a “perfect swing.”
I can’t tell you how much this information has helped my backswing !!!!!!!!!!!! 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
I can relate to what Dana talks about when you've started with fades, then learnt to score low with sling hooks. I'm in the process of unpacking that manufactured stuff and using forces and momentum much more efficiently to improve further. It's hard! Like starting again almost but boy are these conceptual discussions helping me understand. Crackin stuff!
This video is spot on. I was at the range today trying to do exactly this. It's kind of like the old school walk and swing. I want my swing to feel like the backswing is almost 'catching' the next perpetual swing (stealing from shawn clement). The more dynamic the backswing, the better the through swing. I can hit amazing shots swinging back and through without stopping, the trick is to be able to do it from a static setup. I might just honestly start taking 2 small perpetual motion swings and make my 3rd swing my actual ball strike.
Thats what trevino did with steps before he swung
@@BEBETTERGOLF the swing should always be in motion
Very much like a walk. The Origin of Motion creates an imbalance in order to walk. Relative to walking we have a desire to go somewhere. Striking a golf ball requires us to create an Oscillation that Originates from Core and manifests in the Hands and Feet. Proximal dictates Distal. Good Stuff
great stuff B. Thanks so much Dana
Stay tuned for next video series featuring 22 professional motion experts showing their version of how to walk. Seminars to follow and you can win walking shoes if you sign up.
How was this about the backswing again?
Interesting discussion, but it would be nice to have instruction and demonstration on how to actually achieve this movement pattern.
I'm sure that will be addressed in the next video,..
Arnold Palmer said if he gets the first foot in his swing right he will always make a good swing and shot.
UK we have Zen golf mechanic Marcus Bell...all about motion....started as flowmotion...swing as you walk....his videos are well worth a look
“Waggle that shit... an smack dat shit”
-manologolf
For me personally, I think Dana is the best at what he does. I love seeing videos with him. Thanks for the content. It’s such a shame the exchange rate of our Australian dollar is so poor as I’ve looked at joining his online content many times. I think I still will at some stage he is that good. Cheers
Ask him if he’ll accept crypto
You guys must know my good friend Hatty. He's over at Navy these days. You probably know my good friend Joe Grohman.
So how does backswing look besides foot dancing?
Hogan’s waggle ‘routine’ needs more attention. He is VERY specific with it.
He sets his feet looking at the target and waggles looking at the ball.
He NEVER, EVER waggles looking at the target and he never ever sets his feet whilst looking at the ball.
I think this is deliberate. And each element is separate in terms of what he is looking at when he does it in order to establish flow, athleticism and the up-coming club movement as you and Dana are discussing.
Take a look to see for yourselves - it never varies, he never shuffles his feet looking at the ball and never waggles looking at the target.
@j J Not sure what the relevance of this is? I’m talking about how it relates to flow, target awareness, settling into the terrain and motor set.
@j J I’m well versed in TGM it’s just not relevant to what I’m raising.
@j J Er… ok?!?
YEA MOST PEOPLE ROTATE first...the right hip pulled back, staying on top, right shoulder just lifts and pulls back....if you do it right with athletic through motion, hands should just flow through on plane....easier said than done.
Do exactly same thing in badminton.
Would you consider force before motion similar to creating momentum to initiate and direct motion?
Similar yes
I’ve found it easier to move the body first and let the clubhead be carried along. I initiate movement with my forward knee-my left-moving inward. That starts my body turning. My arms are relaxed. I pretend the club is stuck to the ground and let it go last. You feel like your body is flinging the club into the backswing-that’s “the heave” as taught by David Lee and Dahlquist himself. It’s an easy way to get rhythm into your swing. The club more or less floats to the top and by then you’re turning your body into the downswing. Once again, through the body chain, the club is caught last and whips into and through the ball. It’s a better way to play than using muscle.
Bobby Jones did this...
In working with a top notch instructor. I’ve implemented the backswing sensation of someone taking my club and throwing it back. So it turns my backswing into a natural/reactive type movement. How does Dana feel about that?
Yes, but the arms cannot move faster than the pivot, because you would mechanicaly decouple the club, from the rotating mass.
In a dead arm swinging protocol , the pivot, takes the club back, and the centre of mass eventually falls ( or so it feels ) falling by gravity and moving in phaze, with the arms , which are also falling at the rate of gravity.
This is how you strike the golf ball with 200lb + mass and not just the mass of your arms.
Easy , do you think 😅
Clearing the hips up and away from target while not releasing early. Hardest thing to do in learning a good swing
I'm struggling to get better, huge slice with driver, irons lack distance, wedges are decent, on a good contact, lob wedge has good height and carries about 85yds. Help!
@j J thanks
Hey Louis we did some further videos as well. One topic was spin loft. Hopefully when it comes out it leads you to fixing this
@@ddahlquist thanks Sir, I look forward to the release of that one.
@@ddahlquist 1 question for Dana. Does your website with the 200+ videos have videos that explain exactly how to accomplish what you espouse here? I have no doubt you are correct in your assessment of the forces that would make a golfer better, but for me, anyway, I need a roadmap.
@@skpts yes pretty well detaiked
I didn’t know you were in Long Beach my brother lives there. I’m in Bakersfield and my parents are in Palmdale. I usually play in those two towns. Valencia sometimes. Do you normally play in Long Beach? I would like to play golf with you some day. I just started keeping strict score cards to figure out my handicap. Only have about 8 rounds logged. I normally shoot mid 80’s
Yeah, Rec park or El do
I've come to the conclusion that people in general make the golf swing WAY too complicated. If somebody trying to learn to use a hammer approached the endeavor like golfers do the golf swing (over thinking and over analyzing the body movements necessary to swing a hammer to pound a nail) he'd never learn how. Striking a golf ball well with a golf club is no more complicated than using a hammer, it really isn't. The very first thing to do is forget everything you've ever been "taught", and when I say everything, I mean everything, even grip. Just put that club in your dominate hand and then let your brain tell you what to do.
Only thing missing are drills. Average players need them.
I have had 5 course records and have recorded a 59 in competition. Some of these videos are so stupid.
Then dozer do you have a constructive comment or suggestion?
@@The_Fantasy_Arter sir, I have commented on many of his videos , both positive and negative. what would you like to me say ? Many times Brandon ask for our comments about what he is working on in his personal golf swing, many have commented correctly to help him and it seems he ignores those people. I might add, I personally have offered my experience and have reached out to him in previous videos without a response.
P.s back in the 90s I worked with 3 top 100 teachers in America. I NEVER (in my opinion ) was a good ball striker. But because getting the ball in the hole in the least amount of strokes was important to me(thats how you win in golf) is how I accomplished my goals .
I remember at Mississippi State University ( I held the course record when i left at Lakeside golf course 63) and I won my first Fall Classic PGM championship ................I had a guy walk up to me and said..................You aren't any good. LOL I will admit he was a better ball striker, he probably was a better player to boot, but I knew how to get that ball in the hole.
@@The_Fantasy_Arter I might add, about two weeks before John Daley won the US Open at Crookedstick we were playing money games at MSU lake side. John loved his whiskey at 8am. :)
@@The_Fantasy_Arter P.s. in case people think I am making this up.......................John Daly friend Lenny
Tester may chime in. :) along with another of my classmates whom Brandon has interviewed from MSU :)