Totally agree… I’m sad frenemies won’t continue however I prefer they cancel vs causing more trauma to their family and especially Ethan (always saying his jokes or movements are tics and bringing up his triggers and so on like bruh)….these two are the dream team and I solute them for always conducting themselves so well regardless of how bad Trish got
Yes he's definitely staying in the shadows, hoping things just work themselves out, because he wants to "have his cake and eat it too". Very slimy behavior that was undoubtedly brought to the surface by Trisha.
moses needs to step up and if he has problems with hila and ethan, say something and if not, he needs to tell trish she's crossing the line. he's really the one who could be resolving this matter pretty easily...
It's a doggy dog world, and Moses gon have to step up or hush up or else Trisha's gotta go. For all intensive purposes he shouldn't even be such a central character. But maybe his bs is a blessing in the skies and will prove put people's loyalties to the test. His jeans are so low and loose. Definitely not in the 4-stroke gang; he should try it out. I'm home here now and about to have 10-12 benadryl, piss on me, beat me, bye hitlers.
They clearly care about Trisha. Let this just be a learning process. This is issues beyond the internet’s opinion and it’s their choice to be team Trisha.
Its kinda fucked up that hila hasnt done anything at all and her damn husband apparently needs the money so much that theyre in this busyness agreement on a podcast? Trisha and Ethan doing a podcast together never raised a red flag? I saw this shot coming, like Jesus christ, it's so obvious these dudes didn't really socialize that much before becoming you tube famous, they are literally living in an echo chamber, I'm pretty shure Ethan still thinks its okay to be scared of tall buff people, so what does THAT say about his experience in life, it's just sad and unnescessary, like..... Imagine if Ethan and hila were your parents, wouldnt you be a little pissed off with how fucking ignorant and intentionally idiotic they are? I love them but holy shit, Ethan doesnt have any respect for aaaaaanything, like damn, follow suit from tim dillon and Cody ko and Noel Miller or SOMETHING
They didn’t have to put her mental health issues on full display. Hila is uncomfortable talking about herself or the family’s issues but NOT Trisha’s which was literally one of the problems Trisha was having. If they cared about her they wouldn’t be milking her mental health struggles, I’m having a difficult time understanding why no one is seeing this.
and hear this, they wont work out or stay together for longer, cause now, hes stuck in the middle. he obviously wont shut out Hila, but he wont shut out Trish aswell. and Trish is a maniac. she will accept it at first, but deny him to see Hila after a while and then they break up and she will expose every little thing about him.
To be fair, Trish had gotten annoyed at them for talking to her too much and texting about every little thing. Trish expected them to talk to her as little as possible, while still communicating perfectly. It’s difficult to have both like Trish was requiring.
Hila needs a stress free pregnancy. So does Ethan. Keep the stress (trisha/moses) at a safe distance. If that means missing the "wedding" then so be it!
The way trisha is acting, I can imagine her, specifically asking what moses don’t like about his family and then taking the said things as „evidence“ that he dislikes his fam in general. wouldn’t be the first time, she’s gaslighting constantly on the show. I feel deep jealousy from trisha towards ethan&hila and just trying to torpede the relationship. aggressively hitting on ethan didn’t workat the beginning- the next „easy way“ is to use moses.
@@karla9730 of corase im assuming this i t just seemed that way considering if i was in his situation and having to deal with trisha thats how i would feel. but u know trish has a bad side and a good side i love her good side hate her bad side....with peace and love. and i hope both trish and moses have a long and happy relationship
literally I know true but I’m actually someone who is diagnosed with BPD and any little thing ticks you off just someone’s tone or someone laughs at you it’s like your emotions are so highened
@@asia.aa__ if she has bpd, she shouldn’t place herself in places where she knows she could be triggered. She’s doing this to herself. No sympathy. She’s a grown woman, she needs to take accountability for herself
I clicked on this because I thought the title was referring to the one a few days ago and I forgot this had even happened 2 or 3 other times in the past.
Same xD i honestly don't understand why Ethan and Hila put up with her. I'm afraid they might want to ''fix her'' with kindness. But it won't end pretty. And Moses tbh is kinda weird. A little two faced imo but what the hell I know xd I'm just basing my opinion on what I see, and I see a MESS.
Yeah im here too from the future. I feel like when Trisha said that Moses doesn't like his family, that it might be true. That's why he is still with her. And I can't imagine Hila feels good with Trisha now being how she is but still in the family.
Her own brother only goes where the money is so he can live off a woman. And it works in his favor to make Trisha thinks his family doesn't like her..easier for him to peddle excuses not to get married.
I feel like Moses is the one being sus... like manipulating things in a way... he's the one who doesn't want Trisha involved either because he's trying to take care of Trisha or because he doesn't like his own family. I dated someone like that, they use you as a shield.
I think it’s because they understand that this is just the reality of someone who struggles with borderline personality disorder. They are trying to learn how to be there for her & help her
Don’t be so naive. They are part of the problem. Ethan makes rude comments about Trisha during their podcasts and asks insanely personal and obscene questions ALL THE TIME and she’s okay with it. But the moment she makes a little joke they don’t like they get all pissed off and want to cut it out of the show. Then they lie saying they don’t have a problem with her when it’s completely obvious they do and blame everything on her mental health, which makes it even worse.
They were definitely partly in the wrong. Ethan’s behaviour during her breakdown wasn’t great and if anything probably kept pushing her. So much more things they could’ve handled better privately, like Ethan could’ve told Trisha about Hila not wanting them to mention her (instead of bringing up Hila himself on the pod lmao), or Hila talking to Moses in person about her problems with his lack of communication with the family instead of saying it on the pod. Again, it’s mostly on Trisha, but you’re in denial if you think they don’t have a role in this, too. They’re adults and they need to take accountability for their part instead of putting on this whole “we did nothing wrong” part.
Unfortunately, it can be very taxing to be invested emotionally in someone who is struggling with substance abuse &/or mental issues. I come from a family of addicted and mentally unstable people. Some of them I still keep close to me, as they are working to improve their condition and have the means to do so. Others I have legally separated myself from because they are extremely dangerous and do not seek the help they need to improve. I do not think Trisha is the worst human being on earth - but by no means is she a saint. She does seem to be making continual, sincere efforts to improve on her issues though. So, she’s certainly someone worthy of giving a fair shot. A healthy support system capable of handling these behaviors is very hard to come by for people like her! It is very crucial during times of stress for those in counseling and recovery.
Literally just had this video recommended to me today, the fact that this was only 5 months ago makes me so sad. I just hope Ethan and Hila can now enjoy their pregnancy without the unnecessary stress
@@cdr3986 As long as these two have the mentality of rules for me but not for me there will be others fights. These two shouldn't expect her not to talk about this chic because she doesn't want her name mentioned then it should go both ways. They are being HUGE hypocrites right now.
*Honestly, the way Hila kept her composure is admirable! Trisha isolating Moses from his family and employers IS a problem, it’s something she’s tried to do with Jason, but he listened to his friends and shut it down.*
@@fabienlehenaff2742 she hit him, I guess you could say he let that happen too, but men can also be victims of domestic abuse! It’s hard to leave an abusive relationship, Jason called 911, there’s footage of him saying she held him hostage in her apartment! Look it up..it’s really concerning
@@juicy_bergerHim being a grown ass man is not an excuse for her to punch him in the arm and leave him with a deep, terrible bruise! She constantly humiliates him and puts him down! It’s textbook abuse and isolation is a classic abuse tactic! Let’s be fair here
Yet she continually convinces herself and many fans that people looking out for her boyfriends is “toxic behavior.” Anyone who honestly believes that is a victim of her manipulation.
Trisha really needs to consider getting back on her meds. I feel bad for her because BPD is actually horrible. She needs a different therapist or something.
@@Fade335 Yep. I was diagnosed with BPD when I was 18 and it took me years of therapy and learning about why I would react the way I did (a lot went back to the way I was "raised" with alcoholic/addict parents). Even now, at 31 years old I have to check myself sometimes. I wish she could find a therapist who specializes in BPD 😞 There is an amazing book, "I Hate You, Don't Leave Me" on BPD that helped me sooo much.
I agree on she not realizing how great the people around her react to her crisis, however I empathize with her because its so difficult to find yourself and really not crashing out when your mental health drives you so far from your reality. I really hope she finds adequate help and finds a way to herself without hurting others
Yeah though I think she’s aware of her issues, and feels a lot of remorse when stuff like this happens. She’s talked about how she’s getting help for it, and I think that effort may be why they are so understanding.
@@yuli_l-1715 Misery loves company! Idk how anyone can defend Trish though she is capital T Toxic. Idk about him all I know is from what I've seen of Trish? Run lol
@@EliteSniperTV this comment is calling him the opposite of a victim... they are basically calling him a manipulater. Nobody here called moses a victim.
My ex did this. His whole family blew up on me and I didn’t even do anything. He kept lying to both us and would make me seem crazy but stayed with me and than they would gang up on me and tell me to leave and I didn’t know why. Moses needs to grow up
The way i see it (not a TH-camr or podcaster) the way the shows go it’s more of a personal show. For a lack of better words they’re talking having fun so on so forth and just recording the whole thing. Whereas if it were entirely scripted then yeah bringing in personal matters would be uncalled for
Bpd causes that kind of behavior. Hot and cold behavior . She’s unable to separate bad and good to her it’s all bad or all good nothing in between people with this disorder should be avoided depending on how Severe the disorder and if they are not self-aware or working on themselves.
hila is a good person, thats true. but just bc you’re dating someone doesn’t mean you have to like or respect their family. like how i love my bf but i wish his mom would kill over. (bc she’s terrible to everyone) you dont have to date the family
@@klummsyy Respect is different from liking or being close with someone.Just have the common decency not to cuss them out or force them to interact with you, you don’t have to be besties. It’s out of respect for your partner first and foremost, otherwise you’re allowed to feel how you feel!
@@solarflower2464 respect is earned, not just given bc they’re “family”. that’s ridiculous. but trish has BPD so respect plays no role in this. she’s said before that she kinda just blacks out and gets in a defensive mode even if there’s hardly a reason. you cant control it
@@klummsyy Hila said she was just more hurt than anything because she thought she was the closest with Moses. She said it hurts her when Trisha says things like Moses doesn't like you guys because of it. You don't have to like her but don't disrespect her to the point where she's now sad about her own brother. Why continuously say it if it hurts someones feelings? she said it was a "joke" but it was at Hilas expense. Just how she didnt like the joke about Jason having a three some because thats her BF, it was at her expense. Also, Hila is nice so what's the correlation to you wanting your BF mom to kill over.
@@klummsyy Just don’t cuss out your partner’s relatives, that’s the least you can do! If you are in a relationship with someone, you have to respect them enough not to put them in that situation! And just because she self-diagnosed or her subscribers diagnosed her with BPD isn’t the ultimate pass to act however she pleases and be as aggressive as she is! Do you even know what a black out, an actual black out really means? There’s no evidence she has BPD, for all I know she makes up the so called ‘blackouts’ to justify this unacceptable behavior because she can’t take back what she said otherwise. She is known for faking mental illnesses, example - having DID. No trace of her “switches” now? But let’s not mention it cause she’ll start the whole fiasco again
It's sad to see someone so obsessed with bringing Hila down every episode in some way. Whether it be her, her family, her parenting choices, or her husband.
I notice trish gets jealous with Moses family... she doesn’t like when it seems like they know him better than her, etc.. it’s weird? How can you be jealous of his sister, parents and brother in law
It happens because she probably is envious of how peaceful and loving their family is. If you come from a shitty family jealousy is understandable (not that her behavior is at all excusable).
@@lilac1922 yeah there is a such thing as being too close to your family. Closeness isn't always a good thing. Look up "emotional incest", the things they talk about and do on camera (like the onlyfans scandal with her sister) make me think this isn't a healthy closeness. And anyone who has followed trisha knows her childhood and adulthood has been very bad and traumatic for her.
I think Moses has been involving Trisha in family drama that she shouldn’t be involved in. It sounds like if he has a problem with Ethan, Hila or their mom; he will immediately involve Trisha.
i cant imagine when trisha and moses break up shes going to talk so much shit about him and his family, it seems like moses tells trisha everything and knowing her shes going to use it against them like how she always has. i dont know why people keep defending her and sticking with her and giving her chances because she blows up every single one AND acts like the victim. disgusting human honestly
And the thing is, from the outside perspective, it’s literally fine if he doesn’t care to be close to his family. If that’s like how he wants to go about his life then so be it. But the issue here is that he’s kinda playing both sides of the court and saying one thing to Trisha and another to Hila and the rest of his family etc which is not cool. He can grow some balls and stick up for his girlfriend and he can also stick up for his family TO Trisha when need be.
As I'm also diagnosed with Borderline, I feel like Trisha values Ethan and Hila so much that she's terrified to lose them then creating constant irrational thoughts and delusions stemming from one or two different statements that create a sense of abandonment. Having borderline makes everything escalate quicker and the inevitable fall is very drastic and damaging to everyone involved. Anytime abandonment is sensed (or other triggers) it's often we resort to self-sabotage. Like wanting to leave them before they leave you. It's very real and I am happy to see Trisha finally has such a loving support system. As for those around her I really really recommend even just reading some DBT skills that explain the BEST ways for communicating with her in that state. It can help her a great deal! . DISCLAIMER: I'm absolutely not condoning Trisha's behavior only explaining the process behind it. I do support Trisha in her journey as hard as it may be and look forward to seeing what's to come!
I don’t have BPD but I suffer from severe bipolar disorder and I see myself in her so often. Your brain makes stuff up so you want to leave them before they can leave you and hurt you, little things set you off on an uncontrollable rampage. It is a little hurtful to see so many people like “Why be friends with someone with BPD” “Ugh people like her are exhausting to know” and I get it, but at the same time, if you think it’s exhausting to KNOW them, imagine how exhausting it is to BE THEM 😟
This!! I also have a BPD diagnosis too and I really sympathise with her, it’s so difficult to feel so out of control in these moments. It’s a blessing that she has such a loving and understanding group of people around her!
@@Waryfaerie Exactly!!! I feel like living with my mental illness and being self-aware lets me see so much of the discrimination we face day-to-day due to people only seeing us as toxic rather than suffering from something we can't control.
@@hollrosey Yessss when we find people that are not only patient but understand our illness without weaponizing it against us it's so beneficial to our mentality 🥺❤️
@lastlegs absolutely agree! I don't see it as an American thing though, as I am American and know those others around me strongly dislike that behavior. I personally believe her acting that way is a defense mechanism in order to avoid vulnerability which is often times the worst received on the internet. Just my opinion though.
Hila saying she's not ready to speak on things right after they happen is so inspiring to me as a woman who wants to be more thoughtful and genuine. When we react in anger or emotions it can be a mess. Waiting until you're sure of what to say is smart and beautiful and that level of patience isn't often found in America. I think her values from her upbringing are doing her SO MANY FAVORS as a mother and professional woman. I love you guys. Thanks for sharing your love, laughs and BS with the world. Much love from NC.
It’s exactly the same as what’s just happened, she started off well meaning after the original argument then the day after she makes a video lashing out about it
Don’t care about how well she apologizes it’s sad they keep accepting her back, they’re enabling her at this point. She’s good at apologizing cause she’s sued to doing 86 apology videos a year
Lashing out and saying things you don’t mean is a very common occurrence when you have BPD, which is something Trisha has been diagnosed with multiple times. If she sincerely apologized after one of those episodes I think is fair to accept the apology and move on
Trisha says mean things while in a clear state of mind and she should be held responsible for that, but you can’t really hold grudge against someone for something they said when they were completely out of it
Yt is messy af pushing this now lol but just like on here, they wanted space after an argument, and she wouldn't be patient, and takes it online... which fuels the fire. She needs to learn how to have healthy conflict resolutions
even our pizza guy thought about not delivering when he heard the crazy conflict going on. honestly dont know why this dirty laundry is being posted and we are fed updates like its our business. this is the brainless content people should not take an interest in, feels like its just for views, people like this 'drama'.
Imagine being friends with Tisha and confiding in her, only to have all your deepest secrets and flaws thrown at you like a ton of bricks. No ma'am, that's what I call a loud PASS!
she's getting help, but help doesn't work over night. Unfortunately it'll probably be a long time before we see significant improvement from her. Hopefully she sticks with her therapy and doesn't quit, meds would probably help her as well
@@alexsutton9985 did you watch the frenemies episode where they had that doctor? she talks about all the therapy she does and she admits that she spouts out nonsense and goes through these cycles due to her bpd. and if you know about what that can look like, her blowouts make sense, not to say that she shouldnt be held accountable but to be more sensitive and compassionate to people that have disorders that they cannot handle, even with the therapy.
I think in Trisha's head, this type of turmoil is how she thinks people express closeness. Like, "we're family, and therefore we fight." Fighting is wrapped up in love for her. The drama makes her feel like you and her share this unique conflict and it will hold you together, whether husband, sister/brother in law, etc. Ironically, it is always the thing that ruins her relationships because most people see it for how unhealthy it is and know it has no place in a truly functioning and loyal relationship.
I hate that I read this comment cause It’s made me realize how much I relate to Trisha. Being completely honest, I act like she does in arguments with my boyfriend. When I’m in those dissociated moods I actively seek out fights without meaning to. I feel so weird when me and my boyfriend don’t fight because it’s what I’m used to, it keeps me feeling emotions
@@someolii4585 It's awesome that you're aware of it though. I think Trisha is also becoming more aware of it too, and seeing her work on herself and improve is inspirational. Despite how problematic I find her in many other ways, you have to hand it to her for how far she's come in actively cultivating healthier relationships. If you relate to her negatives, you can also relate to her positives. Hang in there. :)
In actuality, all of this stems from Trisha’s negative perception of herself. Hila is everything that Trisha wishes she was. Trisha sees how close Moses was to Hila & Ethan and deliberately tried to isolate Moses. She was trying to make Moses choose between his family and her.
Also just wanted to add that this is the same thing that happened with Jason. Trisha didn't like that Jason spent time with David or his kids, so she took him on extravagant vacations so that she'd have him all to herself. She expected Jason to choose between his work and kids or her.
Your so right like hila is beautiful withought surgery or makeup has a successful life and family, all withought having to show her tits online and just through being a classy nice person
WHY is Moses with Trisha ? Hasn’t he mentioned he thinks he’s autistic. Get him the hell away from Trisha she’s gonna be the end of him and this family
Oh I don’t remember ever hearing that. Ugh honestly out of all of this the most I feel bad for are Moses and Hila. It sucks so much. This isn’t youtube drama it’s fucking reality
@celestial moon I mean. she does have some sort of mental problems. I understand what you mean though - but yeah that's kinda how you have to describe it :/
I’ve been in a similar situation with my brother & his now wife. She would constantly talk shit on Facebook about our family & tell us constantly that my brother basically wants nothing to do with my mom & I. Wanting to get to the bottom of things, we invited them over to talks things out. He denied it & she confessed she had bpd & felt threatened by the closeness between us, making her feel like the odd one out; when my mom & I would go out of our way to make her feel welcome & loved. It always seemed like nothing was good enough for her... To this day she lashes out at mostly me for no reason & my connection to my brother is almost nonexistent. I’ve had nothing but love & understanding for her but she’s basically made her lies a reality because my brother feels so bad about everything he keeps us at a distance out of fear for upsetting her more. Making it feel like he wants nothing to do with us. I hope their situation has a better ending than mine because it’s hell & I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy...
Been watching Trisha for 12 years. This is what she does, destroys all relationships. Your family is being destroyed, Moses is being isolated how many more red flags does your family need before someone gets more physically and mentally abused? She's quit the podcast, this is your chance to bring calm back in 1 part of your life. Let her quit and save your podcast. It's stressful for viewers to watch her spew out hate too.
Very true but we can’t be just blame Trisha. Moses has a part in this too because he’s telling Trisha things and his family other things and he just watches this shit literally hit the fan like they said. Moses just watches and he just stays quiet when confronted they all need to talk but knowing Trisha she’s gonna do all that again...
Trish privately will be nice to you and apologize but then on camera will act like the victim, like she has something wrong with her and she needs help
@@crystal71333 I think in these podcasts it was a constant Trisha experiencing Moses saying they didn't like her, and would talk shit about her and Moses. And Moses would say they weren't close (him and his family). But Hila was communicating with Moses about how they DID like her and wanted to talk. So, Moses WAS the issue. But now it seems they all communicate very frequently and to each other so Moses isn't the mediator.
This channel is where we used to go to escape from crazy people and joke about them doing insane things. Now Trisha and the toxic bullshit have taken over a majority of the content.
People are going to hate me for saying this, but excusing Trisha’s toxic abusive behaviour just because she claims a mental illness is not..it. We should be holding people accountable for their actions, whether they have a mental illness or not. People with mental illnesses shouldn’t be treated like children. If you do something shitty, you should be called out.
exactly. it‘s called „self-responsibility“. you can’t go like „I have an aggression issue diagnosed, so now I should be allowed to punch people in the face“.
Well... we live in a pansy, cushy, world.. where we want everyone to feel “comfortable” lmao. NO. If someone has abusive and TOXIC tendencies then they should be called out for it.
@@cottoncandymuffinful thank u! She isn't taking any accountability! It isn't enough to say ur working on ur self if ur not committing to a different way of life and all the therapeutic options! The fact that ethan is taking accountability when he didn't do anything in the first place isn't helping her... But they really do seem to care and that's very sweet!
I fully agree with this. Mental illness is not an excuse to rip people apart over and over and over and completely getting away with it every single time
Rogatus Trisha chooses to be a terrible person and they let her back in knowing she is. You can be mad and not go straight for the unrelated cheap shot to cut deep. She is a human being sure but she’s also an adult, she makes her decisions, she should be held accountable. Its her choice to stay immature and choose not to change, she knows it and addresses too hut chooses to be bad. Also looks like she hit moses. Basically she gets way too much slack.
@@alexsutton9985 I think if they let her back on podcast, sooner or later she will still make mean comments about the family. I don't think she will stop. She will keep on throwing shade.
Ik you guys want to get her back for views but please don't. Her reaction was over the top and even tho, she has a condition but still, you both deserve respect.
@@evan4905 I wouldn’t call it interesting but dramatic, toxic and anxiety- inducing. She was almost about to jump Ethan at the end, aggressive, unbecoming as she loves to say.. Please let H3 get back to making their regular cool content because the Trisha thing ain’t it
@@solarflower2464 exactly! It’s gotten so out of hand each blow out it keeps getting more and more toxic. I don’t even get why people find her meltdowns entertaining. It’s fun to watch them when she doesn’t go off the deep end.
I think it’s very clear Trisha is jealous of Ethan and Hila’s secure relationship and that they stand up for each other because they respect each other. Moses does not respect Trisha and I guarantee she wishes he would stand up for her openly.
exactly and then when she brings up Theodore having a nanny, she talks down to Ethan saying that he's a bad parent and acting like Because he asked her what she would do, that he's lashing out at her because she's infertile.... who the fuck said anything about her being infertile? She's the only one that brought that shit up.I don't get how she can be upset about being infertile whenever she's not helping her case by shoving jelly donuts up her vagina.
She also started using the word "infertile" before admitting she's not, showing jealousy of Ethan and Hila's family unit & child. She probably doesn't grasp that it usually takes more than one load to get pregnant. Thankfully. She and Moses should NOT be trying for a child right now, if ever.
As much as I think it’s admirable for Ethan to be considerate of Trishas mental illnesses and not hold what she says against her, I also think he’s allowing her to use her illnesses as an excuse to act however she wants and that’s not healthy at all. Mental illness is not an excuse to treat other people like shit, and if she’s struggling then she needs to get a new therapist and get back on her meds.
It really says a lot about Ethan and Hila as individuals and a couple, they’re able to think through situations like this and not only forgive but really try to understand what’s going on with Trisha rather than just leading out. They’re the kind of friends Trisha needs
When you assume that someone doesn't like you it can turn into a self fulfilling prophecy because you then treat that person like someone that hates you which is highly negative and then causes that person not to like you...
@@branch621 it's a mistake I have made many many times before I realized what I was doing. Not fun. I hope you learn a little faster from my mistakes buddy. We have to love even when we don't feel loved. That's the only way to win.
Don't bring her back until or unless she can respect the both of you, your children, your family, and your choices. She'll never learn if you coddle and tolerate her behavior.
It’s just that kind of treatment that will make her worse though. She has really really deep trauma and that is the reason she doesn’t know how to react and ‘keep a level head’. If they simply abandon her she’ll only get worse. It sucks but in some cases you need to treat someone with mental health issues like they have mental health issues. If you treat them like they don’t have these problems it can be borderline abuse. For example, where you might shout at your friend who has not experienced trauma you shouldn’t also shout at your friend who has been in an abusive relationship. Certain treatment can trigger ptsd and worsen the person’s condition, even cause behavioural relapses. They handled this so well. They are doing the right thing when they speak to her gently and listen to her and encourage her to talk about her feelings and respond to her in a rational and calm way. They understand Trisha’s situation better than us, therefore they know how to handle it better than us.
@@abbiexx1953 Since you've written so much, I feel an obligation to say that my mindset had completely changed when it comes to Trisha. The last couple months I've seen much more of her, ethan, and their relationship. I understand much more about who she is as a person and all the trauma in her history that has contributed to who she has become. I'm all in on watching her progression as she heals being surrounded by people who legitimately love her and want her to get better.
@@EFantasic yeah, as awful the things she’s done are (and this does not erase the things she’s done), she’s done a lot a good on education about mental health and trauma. Also I was also feeling a bit annoyed at the time because there are so many comments calling her crazy which I think is just so disrespectful. Whether a person likes her or not, it’s never okay to talk about someone who is struggling with mental health like that.
Moses is sus its like what Hila was saying if somebody keeps saying something over and over again you have to question if they are really getting it out of nowhere and Moses actions or better yet lack of action these days proves Trisha isn't making the stuff up about him not liking his family. And Hila mentioned it here Mose trying to explain mess away by saying its for the show and entertainment like he's trying to either disassociate from it or trying to be facetious and funny about it as to say he sees his family issues as entertaining and doesn't take them seriously. I know Hila isn't lying about him saying that cause he literally said the same thing when ppl asked him how he felt over frienemies ending and what Trisha was doing. This is while she making video after video on Ethan pretty much putting dirt on his name and Moses says. "Their just entertainers having a fight. Its not a big deal." The deleted it after ppl started dragging him.
Trisha has an unhealthy relationship with women in general. Her self esteem issues will make it incredibly hard for her to have a healthy relationship with another woman
I have BPD and see so much of myself in Trisha just not to the same level because I learned to shut myself away from people and real life situations. I'm so glad Ethan and Hila are nice about her as she needs people like them in her life, I just wish she could see that all the time
I agree, sometimes I catch myself deflecting minor accusations and criticism and I used to just lash out or completely avoid the situation. I’m no way like that anymore but I think it all just depends.
@@solarflower2464 seriously. the real culprit here is Moses imo. Hes the one that should be meditating conflict between Trisha and the Klein's. But he seems to take side with whoever he's talking to at the moment without resolving the conflict resulting in miscommunication and tension.
Been scrolling through the comments for like 5 mins have yet to see one comment supporting Trisha... can you copy one for me cuz I feel like you just made this comments for likes without any evidence lol... that said I don't have social media so I dont know what people are saying there.
Watching this after their most recent fight hurts because I’m hoping that she will come back and I feel like she might because I have BPD as well we force ourselves away from the situation but then regret it afterwards
@@kiwibrada7286 I do agree as well because I feel like they could make up that’s a huge possibility but this would not be an end to the fights there would be another one
Tricia has issues with women PERIOD. She doesn’t have enough self confidence to truly have a female friend. She’s always been rude to Hila.
YESS! and jealous about their family w/ theo and her current pregnancy bc shes brought it up numerous times in arguments..
@@billiebmarie yes the pregnancy seems like a big trigger for her.
Totally agree… I’m sad frenemies won’t continue however I prefer they cancel vs causing more trauma to their family and especially Ethan (always saying his jokes or movements are tics and bringing up his triggers and so on like bruh)….these two are the dream team and I solute them for always conducting themselves so well regardless of how bad Trish got
Yes yes yes. That’s why Sam the gf of Ian also triggered her.
Right on the money
I really wished she left with a slice of pizza.
Hahahaha MEEE
My fatass would of taken pizza too hahahah
Lol
I would have taken a box since there was 2 lol
I can’t believe she forsook all that pizza.
@@KTKRules i mean the other box was for the crew
Hila is a class act. She has every right to be aggravated and angry , but she handles it all with grace.
I could never lol
I would lose my shit
Dont know how
a real queen mmmmpphh👑
@Matthew Rendenmbiggest overreaction in this entire comment section, nice one dude
Moses should definitely take more accountability. This sucks. In any cases I wish the best for you guys and Trisha
Yes he's definitely staying in the shadows, hoping things just work themselves out, because he wants to "have his cake and eat it too". Very slimy behavior that was undoubtedly brought to the surface by Trisha.
moses needs to step up and if he has problems with hila and ethan, say something and if not, he needs to tell trish she's crossing the line. he's really the one who could be resolving this matter pretty easily...
She is so good.
He is too busy studying water lmao
It's a doggy dog world, and Moses gon have to step up or hush up or else Trisha's gotta go. For all intensive purposes he shouldn't even be such a central character. But maybe his bs is a blessing in the skies and will prove put people's loyalties to the test.
His jeans are so low and loose. Definitely not in the 4-stroke gang; he should try it out. I'm home here now and about to have 10-12 benadryl, piss on me, beat me, bye hitlers.
They clearly care about Trisha. Let this just be a learning process. This is issues beyond the internet’s opinion and it’s their choice to be team Trisha.
Ethan was VERY patient when he helped start a potentially huge adpocalypse with Keemstar :) that's patience right there. *sarcasm*
Either way I respect their decision
Its kinda fucked up that hila hasnt done anything at all and her damn husband apparently needs the money so much that theyre in this busyness agreement on a podcast? Trisha and Ethan doing a podcast together never raised a red flag? I saw this shot coming, like Jesus christ, it's so obvious these dudes didn't really socialize that much before becoming you tube famous, they are literally living in an echo chamber, I'm pretty shure Ethan still thinks its okay to be scared of tall buff people, so what does THAT say about his experience in life, it's just sad and unnescessary, like..... Imagine if Ethan and hila were your parents, wouldnt you be a little pissed off with how fucking ignorant and intentionally idiotic they are? I love them but holy shit, Ethan doesnt have any respect for aaaaaanything, like damn, follow suit from tim dillon and Cody ko and Noel Miller or SOMETHING
@@averydiaz5730 what. i read it like 4 times and i still dont understand what youre getting at
They didn’t have to put her mental health issues on full display. Hila is uncomfortable talking about herself or the family’s issues but NOT Trisha’s which was literally one of the problems Trisha was having. If they cared about her they wouldn’t be milking her mental health struggles, I’m having a difficult time understanding why no one is seeing this.
Moses HAS to be a maniac. No way anybody with a single hint of healthy gets attracted and stays with all that crazy
It’s in the water
and hear this, they wont work out or stay together for longer, cause now, hes stuck in the middle. he obviously wont shut out Hila, but he wont shut out Trish aswell.
and Trish is a maniac. she will accept it at first, but deny him to see Hila after a while and then they break up and she will expose every little thing about him.
@@inxine about the whole family! That’s so scary and sad to live not knowing what could happen
@@mickush3866 ugh I’m dreading this, Ethan and Hila are private people. I’d feel so uncomfortable hearing about their lives through Trisha
Absolutely. It makes you really wonder about him
It sounds to me like Hila, and Trish don't actually talk to eachother. Speaking through family members will keep tension high.
I think she does tho
Maybe the do but not as much because there’s that tension
To be fair, Trish had gotten annoyed at them for talking to her too much and texting about every little thing. Trish expected them to talk to her as little as possible, while still communicating perfectly. It’s difficult to have both like Trish was requiring.
Definitely, speaking through anyone in general and not direct
But Trisha is legitimate garbage? Lol
The mistake was not having the Pizza ready at the start of the show. Believe me.
Lol
Omg yes this comment is so underrated !! She had one chicken breast, of course she was hangry
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
That was when Ethan tried to recap in front of her
Hila needs a stress free pregnancy. So does Ethan. Keep the stress (trisha/moses) at a safe distance. If that means missing the "wedding" then so be it!
This 🙌🏻
When Dona said this tho she was made to be the wrong one, Trisha is ill
@@Lou_cait33 being ill isn’t an excuse
@@clairej212 I never said it was lmao?
@@Lou_cait33 sorry it just came across that way, can you explain what you meant?
Moses needs to grow a pair and defend Hila or end the relationship
YAAS !
Simp
He wont do that. He’s built differently
Preach
The way trisha is acting, I can imagine her, specifically asking what moses don’t like about his family and then taking the said things as „evidence“ that he dislikes his fam in general. wouldn’t be the first time, she’s gaslighting constantly on the show. I feel deep jealousy from trisha towards ethan&hila and just trying to torpede the relationship. aggressively hitting on ethan didn’t workat the beginning- the next „easy way“ is to use moses.
Make MOSES ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS! Moses is the common denominator in this situation. He is the one lying.
Can’t help him either he weird he into himself and not really family oriented
because he knows he has to take Trisha side no matter how wrong she is or his life will be hell and because he loves her too
@@marthsadreli1731 are you apart of their relationship..? Just asking wanting to know if this is a fact or you’re making assumptions.
@@karla9730 of corase im assuming this i t just seemed that way considering if i was in his situation and having to deal with trisha thats how i would feel. but u know trish has a bad side and a good side i love her good side hate her bad side....with peace and love. and i hope both trish and moses have a long and happy relationship
@@karla9730 Trisha! Why are you moonlighting as a random commenter?
I can't believe Ethan apologized. Trisha was totally in the wrong
Damage control, so she doesn’t come after him financially or go on her massive rants on her channel. You know damn well he hates that b***ch
literally I know true but I’m actually someone who is diagnosed with BPD and any little thing ticks you off just someone’s tone or someone laughs at you it’s like your emotions are so highened
@@asia.aa__ if she has bpd, she shouldn’t place herself in places where she knows she could be triggered. She’s doing this to herself. No sympathy. She’s a grown woman, she needs to take accountability for herself
That was so cowardly of him.
@@deezelkane financially?? She has nothing on him he keeps all their conversations saved so she cant use anything against him . Ethan preps
“The trisha incident” lmao which one? There are so many😂
Trisha herself is an incident.
You know the last one was different cause you don’t see one of these for that incident lol
@@xtravagentk1275 bye this comment is crack up
I clicked on this because I thought the title was referring to the one a few days ago and I forgot this had even happened 2 or 3 other times in the past.
@@xtravagentk1275 literally came here to comment this lmao
Wild how Trisha expects everyone to bend over for her mental health but she keeps pressing an issue that she knows affects Hila’s mental health.
You're contradicting and making an insanely stupid statement. The reason she pressed that issue is BECAUSE of her mental illness and insecurities.
I feel like I’m watching an arc of betrayal and I’m just binging episodes putting together the pieces
Literally Exactly what I’m doing!
Same xD i honestly don't understand why Ethan and Hila put up with her. I'm afraid they might want to ''fix her'' with kindness. But it won't end pretty. And Moses tbh is kinda weird. A little two faced imo but what the hell I know xd I'm just basing my opinion on what I see, and I see a MESS.
Yeah im here too from the future. I feel like when Trisha said that Moses doesn't like his family, that it might be true. That's why he is still with her. And I can't imagine Hila feels good with Trisha now being how she is but still in the family.
Yes! Im watching everything backwards in a way...
I can’t even imagine how betrayed Hila must feel. That’s her brother and her own brother isn’t sticking up for what’s right. That’s so hard on her.
Her own brother only goes where the money is so he can live off a woman. And it works in his favor to make Trisha thinks his family doesn't like her..easier for him to peddle excuses not to get married.
@Alissaa keyword engaged Loo
@@a.t.4151 Moses has a lot of his own money though. He doesn't need to leech off Trisha
Yeah Moses kinda sus to me
I feel like Moses is the one being sus... like manipulating things in a way... he's the one who doesn't want Trisha involved either because he's trying to take care of Trisha or because he doesn't like his own family. I dated someone like that, they use you as a shield.
I see Hila and Ethan taking more accountability when they weren’t in the wrong then Trisha did, also they are acting more apologetic then Trisha was
COMPLETELY AGREE. I'm hoping this isn't a money thing wtf 😒
I think it’s because they understand that this is just the reality of someone who struggles with borderline personality disorder. They are trying to learn how to be there for her & help her
Don’t be so naive. They are part of the problem. Ethan makes rude comments about Trisha during their podcasts and asks insanely personal and obscene questions ALL THE TIME and she’s okay with it. But the moment she makes a little joke they don’t like they get all pissed off and want to cut it out of the show. Then they lie saying they don’t have a problem with her when it’s completely obvious they do and blame everything on her mental health, which makes it even worse.
To be fair, we don't know how Trisha's apology was off-camera
They were definitely partly in the wrong. Ethan’s behaviour during her breakdown wasn’t great and if anything probably kept pushing her. So much more things they could’ve handled better privately, like Ethan could’ve told Trisha about Hila not wanting them to mention her (instead of bringing up Hila himself on the pod lmao), or Hila talking to Moses in person about her problems with his lack of communication with the family instead of saying it on the pod.
Again, it’s mostly on Trisha, but you’re in denial if you think they don’t have a role in this, too. They’re adults and they need to take accountability for their part instead of putting on this whole “we did nothing wrong” part.
Being friends with Trisha must be so exhausting...one wrong word and she uses every private info she has on you just to hurt and "get back" at you.
That's why I'd never share any private info with her. I'd make everything up lol
Unfortunately, it can be very taxing to be invested emotionally in someone who is struggling with substance abuse &/or mental issues. I come from a family of addicted and mentally unstable people. Some of them I still keep close to me, as they are working to improve their condition and have the means to do so. Others I have legally separated myself from because they are extremely dangerous and do not seek the help they need to improve. I do not think Trisha is the worst human being on earth - but by no means is she a saint. She does seem to be making continual, sincere efforts to improve on her issues though. So, she’s certainly someone worthy of giving a fair shot. A healthy support system capable of handling these behaviors is very hard to come by for people like her! It is very crucial during times of stress for those in counseling and recovery.
Sounds like something Jeffree Star would do
Why would yoy wanna be friends with somebody like that..
@@danidarkoxo she’s ignorant
I don’t understand how they come across so chill when Trish literally attacks every aspect of their existence
No cap
because trish is literally nothing... shes just a person with opinions ethan knows aint true
Because they are not insane and sane people dont lose their shit over insane people throwing tantrums
Because they know Trisha is coming from an irrational place and she’s saying whatever she can that’s the most hurtful, so it’s not like it’s true.
Trust me the chilled people are in fault
I think Moses has a lot to due with playing sides. But Trisha also needs to take a step back because this is ridiculous.
@Rick Don what’s boundaries ? there was no boundaries and they never told her directly to stop talking about the family
I am the ghost of Christmas future just swooping in to say that nothing good ever lasts forever. Love you guys.
Literally just had this video recommended to me today, the fact that this was only 5 months ago makes me so sad. I just hope Ethan and Hila can now enjoy their pregnancy without the unnecessary stress
@@littlemissshank6889 that’s what happened to me! TH-cam is a cruel mistress.
Boooooo
@@cdr3986 As long as these two have the mentality of rules for me but not for me there will be others fights. These two shouldn't expect her not to talk about this chic because she doesn't want her name mentioned then it should go both ways. They are being HUGE hypocrites right now.
@@Laniey123 what are u even saying ur comment makes 0 sense
*Honestly, the way Hila kept her composure is admirable! Trisha isolating Moses from his family and employers IS a problem, it’s something she’s tried to do with Jason, but he listened to his friends and shut it down.*
Moses is letting it happen tho
@@fabienlehenaff2742 she hit him, I guess you could say he let that happen too, but men can also be victims of domestic abuse! It’s hard to leave an abusive relationship, Jason called 911, there’s footage of him saying she held him hostage in her apartment! Look it up..it’s really concerning
he’s a grown ass man. He can make his own godamn choices, so don’t go blaming trisha completely when ultimately, hes the decision maker.
@@juicy_bergerHim being a grown ass man is not an excuse for her to punch him in the arm and leave him with a deep, terrible bruise! She constantly humiliates him and puts him down! It’s textbook abuse and isolation is a classic abuse tactic! Let’s be fair here
Yet she continually convinces herself and many fans that people looking out for her boyfriends is “toxic behavior.” Anyone who honestly believes that is a victim of her manipulation.
Trisha really needs to consider getting back on her meds. I feel bad for her because BPD is actually horrible. She needs a different therapist or something.
She talks about how she is trying different medicine with her doctor
So hopefully THIS new medicine helps her...
It's a process
Unfortunately medication doesn’t really help BPD, but she should definitely be attending weekly therapy sessions if not more.
@@Fade335 True. Medication alone won't help but they absolutely can help if she continues the DBT sessions and stuff.
@@SandeJune 100% but she has to put the work in consistently and help herself
@@Fade335 Yep. I was diagnosed with BPD when I was 18 and it took me years of therapy and learning about why I would react the way I did (a lot went back to the way I was "raised" with alcoholic/addict parents). Even now, at 31 years old I have to check myself sometimes. I wish she could find a therapist who specializes in BPD 😞 There is an amazing book, "I Hate You, Don't Leave Me" on BPD that helped me sooo much.
Moses is playing all of y’all lmfao
The master mind
They are his puppets
🇵🇷🇳🇿🇬🇧🏴
🍿🍿🍿
@@ek9826 this makes SO much sense now
The series villain: Trisha
The actual villain: Moses
🤣🤣
Dude fr
This happens wherever trish goes its not moses
You mean the season villain and the series villain
Stephanie Coates true but they would have cut her out if he wasn't involved
trisha doesnt realize how lucky she is to be around understanding people, bc she just lashes out
I agree on she not realizing how great the people around her react to her crisis, however I empathize with her because its so difficult to find yourself and really not crashing out when your mental health drives you so far from your reality. I really hope she finds adequate help and finds a way to herself without hurting others
@@avalverdec i hope she gets the help she needs!
Definitely. I can't say I or anyone I associate with would accept that behavior more than once...
Yeah though I think she’s aware of her issues, and feels a lot of remorse when stuff like this happens. She’s talked about how she’s getting help for it, and I think that effort may be why they are so understanding.
she's probably not used to it. Look at the friends she used to think were her friends ya know?
Yall need to question Moses. He's telling trish one thing to calm her down and telling you guys another
So he's a victim is what I'm hearing lol... It's Trisha
@@EliteSniperTV sounds more like he’s a manipulator
@@yuli_l-1715 Misery loves company! Idk how anyone can defend Trish though she is capital T Toxic. Idk about him all I know is from what I've seen of Trish? Run lol
@@EliteSniperTV this comment is calling him the opposite of a victim... they are basically calling him a manipulater. Nobody here called moses a victim.
My ex did this. His whole family blew up on me and I didn’t even do anything. He kept lying to both us and would make me seem crazy but stayed with me and than they would gang up on me and tell me to leave and I didn’t know why. Moses needs to grow up
Really don’t see why you have to defend yourselves on personal matters, especially involving family members
For views
Clout
Because trisha opened her mouth about it
@@kylemongan2309 ethan coulda cut that part. Trisha and Ethan clout chasers
The way i see it (not a TH-camr or podcaster) the way the shows go it’s more of a personal show. For a lack of better words they’re talking having fun so on so forth and just recording the whole thing. Whereas if it were entirely scripted then yeah bringing in personal matters would be uncalled for
I love that Trisha calls them fake but then goes off on them, apologizes, and then proceeds to go back and make a video abt how fake they are 🤣🤣🤣🤣
THIS!!!!!!
She's a toxic creature
Even if they didn’t post about it she will make a video about it bc she had bankroll of videos.
@@cuteandviolentchibi still doesn’t justify anything, she could have, I don’t know, DELETED THE VIDEOS 🤣🤣🤣
Bpd causes that kind of behavior. Hot and cold behavior . She’s unable to separate bad and good to her it’s all bad or all good nothing in between people with this disorder should be avoided depending on how Severe the disorder and if they are not self-aware or working on themselves.
Hila is the woman I strive to grow up to be like. (I'm 36).
right?! she’s so graceful.
She's so cool and collected. It runs in the family I guess, since her brother is getting along with Trisha just fine.
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Love your display picture, Coraline was a gem 💎
Ha! Same! Im 34. She is so calm and gracious.
At this point Trisha AND Hila’s brother are both toxic
And Ethan isn't toxic... ;) right haha. He wasn't toxic during this but for quite a while Ethan has been toxic... for views and ego.
@@raz9305 how bout proof
@@raz9305 everyone is "toxic". Also you're probably more toxic than him :)
@@raz9305 I agree but he’s definitely humbled himself in the past few years
@@raz9305 not ethans fault, trisha signed up for this and that’s what the podcast is about 🤦🏻
ethan is lucky to have such a level headed mature wife and mother of his child
I mean it’s not very hard. She hardly says anything other than “yeh”
@@Kubulek17 shes smart because of that . think of it
@@Kubulek17 a lot of very smart people just dont express their thoughts very often
@@crunchu2361 this isn’t a wisdom contest. It’s entertainment. Which is exactly why the podcast with Trisha did much better than their regular.
@@Kubulek17 Well empty vessels make the most noise
For a sec I thought this was for the MOST recent incident...
Same
Omg im sitting here watching it and like..... something is wrong
Wait what’s the most recent one
The fact that Trisha is the one blocking THEIR number should say a lot about her
*their
“There” means that it’s over there, “their” means that it is theirs.
@@movieblocks9164 oops my bad 😂 n
agreed, but THEIR*
@@patrickpainter1724 my bad 😬
You’d think Trisha would have some decency and respect her boyfriend’s sister, but she has to take it to the complete gutter ..
hila is a good person, thats true. but just bc you’re dating someone doesn’t mean you have to like or respect their family. like how i love my bf but i wish his mom would kill over. (bc she’s terrible to everyone) you dont have to date the family
@@klummsyy Respect is different from liking or being close with someone.Just have the common decency not to cuss them out or force them to interact with you, you don’t have to be besties. It’s out of respect for your partner first and foremost, otherwise you’re allowed to feel how you feel!
@@solarflower2464 respect is earned, not just given bc they’re “family”. that’s ridiculous. but trish has BPD so respect plays no role in this. she’s said before that she kinda just blacks out and gets in a defensive mode even if there’s hardly a reason. you cant control it
@@klummsyy Hila said she was just more hurt than anything because she thought she was the closest with Moses. She said it hurts her when Trisha says things like Moses doesn't like you guys because of it. You don't have to like her but don't disrespect her to the point where she's now sad about her own brother. Why continuously say it if it hurts someones feelings? she said it was a "joke" but it was at Hilas expense. Just how she didnt like the joke about Jason having a three some because thats her BF, it was at her expense. Also, Hila is nice so what's the correlation to you wanting your BF mom to kill over.
@@klummsyy Just don’t cuss out your partner’s relatives, that’s the least you can do! If you are in a relationship with someone, you have to respect them enough not to put them in that situation! And just because she self-diagnosed or her subscribers diagnosed her with BPD isn’t the ultimate pass to act however she pleases and be as aggressive as she is! Do you even know what a black out, an actual black out really means? There’s no evidence she has BPD, for all I know she makes up the so called ‘blackouts’ to justify this unacceptable behavior because she can’t take back what she said otherwise. She is known for faking mental illnesses, example - having DID. No trace of her “switches” now? But let’s not mention it cause she’ll start the whole fiasco again
6 months later & it’s like deja vu. Ethan orders them some pizza, they start arguing, she calls Hila a bitch & storms off
Did she really call Hila a bitch this last time? 🙄 OMG!! Trisha hits a new low every time
@@__Adriana she didn’t it’s an old video
Moses is literally as old as my dad. why isnt he taking any responsibility for this?
sugar walls are a hell of a drug
He's like 40. Not that old only a couple years older than trish
@@Naotahaley that’s what I’m thinking too
@@Naotahaley 11 years older. An entire decade can make a big difference. Either way, they're both adults, which doesn't always show in the behavior.
@@saramichele7366 isn’t Trisha 32?? That’s less than a decade
It’s really bothering me to see Hila this upset. She doesn’t deserve this
It’s pointless to talk about what people do/don’t “deserve”.
Dickon McCock literallt
It's sad to see someone so obsessed with bringing Hila down every episode in some way. Whether it be her, her family, her parenting choices, or her husband.
How do you know . Do you know her in real life. She might be an awful person that puts on a good front
Quit brown nosing
BOLD of youtube to recommend this to me after their 2nd fight.
Actually third fight!
3rd 🤦🏼♀️ Trisha is ridiculous
Second fight? Did they ever stop fighting? I mean, there's a reason the show was called "Frenemies," just sayin' 🤷
I notice trish gets jealous with Moses family... she doesn’t like when it seems like they know him better than her, etc.. it’s weird? How can you be jealous of his sister, parents and brother in law
It happens because she probably is envious of how peaceful and loving their family is. If you come from a shitty family jealousy is understandable (not that her behavior is at all excusable).
Trisha says she's close to her family tho and she grew up fine.
Because she views people as property not people.
@@lilac1922 yeah there is a such thing as being too close to your family. Closeness isn't always a good thing. Look up "emotional incest", the things they talk about and do on camera (like the onlyfans scandal with her sister) make me think this isn't a healthy closeness.
And anyone who has followed trisha knows her childhood and adulthood has been very bad and traumatic for her.
@@stevenmom58 That's a reach
I think Moses has been involving Trisha in family drama that she shouldn’t be involved in. It sounds like if he has a problem with Ethan, Hila or their mom; he will immediately involve Trisha.
I bet that’s exactly right.
For having served in the Iraqi military Moses is a big puss lol
Trisha creates the family drama and actually involves other people in it lol
i cant imagine when trisha and moses break up shes going to talk so much shit about him and his family, it seems like moses tells trisha everything and knowing her shes going to use it against them like how she always has. i dont know why people keep defending her and sticking with her and giving her chances because she blows up every single one AND acts like the victim. disgusting human honestly
The mental stability between these two is so incredibly respectable
they're goals
A few things. Either Moses really doesn’t care to be close with his family or he has no back bone.
Both?
And the thing is, from the outside perspective, it’s literally fine if he doesn’t care to be close to his family. If that’s like how he wants to go about his life then so be it. But the issue here is that he’s kinda playing both sides of the court and saying one thing to Trisha and another to Hila and the rest of his family etc which is not cool. He can grow some balls and stick up for his girlfriend and he can also stick up for his family TO Trisha when need be.
@@sydniee exactly! He’s playing both sides of the fence
As I'm also diagnosed with Borderline, I feel like Trisha values Ethan and Hila so much that she's terrified to lose them then creating constant irrational thoughts and delusions stemming from one or two different statements that create a sense of abandonment. Having borderline makes everything escalate quicker and the inevitable fall is very drastic and damaging to everyone involved. Anytime abandonment is sensed (or other triggers) it's often we resort to self-sabotage. Like wanting to leave them before they leave you. It's very real and I am happy to see Trisha finally has such a loving support system. As for those around her I really really recommend even just reading some DBT skills that explain the BEST ways for communicating with her in that state. It can help her a great deal!
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DISCLAIMER: I'm absolutely not condoning Trisha's behavior only explaining the process behind it. I do support Trisha in her journey as hard as it may be and look forward to seeing what's to come!
I don’t have BPD but I suffer from severe bipolar disorder and I see myself in her so often. Your brain makes stuff up so you want to leave them before they can leave you and hurt you, little things set you off on an uncontrollable rampage. It is a little hurtful to see so many people like “Why be friends with someone with BPD” “Ugh people like her are exhausting to know” and I get it, but at the same time, if you think it’s exhausting to KNOW them, imagine how exhausting it is to BE THEM 😟
This!! I also have a BPD diagnosis too and I really sympathise with her, it’s so difficult to feel so out of control in these moments. It’s a blessing that she has such a loving and understanding group of people around her!
@@Waryfaerie Exactly!!! I feel like living with my mental illness and being self-aware lets me see so much of the discrimination we face day-to-day due to people only seeing us as toxic rather than suffering from something we can't control.
@@hollrosey Yessss when we find people that are not only patient but understand our illness without weaponizing it against us it's so beneficial to our mentality 🥺❤️
@lastlegs absolutely agree! I don't see it as an American thing though, as I am American and know those others around me strongly dislike that behavior. I personally believe her acting that way is a defense mechanism in order to avoid vulnerability which is often times the worst received on the internet. Just my opinion though.
Hila saying she's not ready to speak on things right after they happen is so inspiring to me as a woman who wants to be more thoughtful and genuine. When we react in anger or emotions it can be a mess. Waiting until you're sure of what to say is smart and beautiful and that level of patience isn't often found in America. I think her values from her upbringing are doing her SO MANY FAVORS as a mother and professional woman. I love you guys. Thanks for sharing your love, laughs and BS with the world. Much love from NC.
It’s exactly the same as what’s just happened, she started off well meaning after the original argument then the day after she makes a video lashing out about it
Don’t care about how well she apologizes it’s sad they keep accepting her back, they’re enabling her at this point. She’s good at apologizing cause she’s sued to doing 86 apology videos a year
They don't care as long as the $$$ continues rolling in
@@JaneParkerBowls saddest part, h3h3 used to be fun and relatable to watch now everything’s one big choreographed soap opera
Lmao been saying that for months. If they’re sick of this behavior stop putting her on your platform and stop filming a podcast with her.
Lashing out and saying things you don’t mean is a very common occurrence when you have BPD, which is something Trisha has been diagnosed with multiple times. If she sincerely apologized after one of those episodes I think is fair to accept the apology and move on
Trisha says mean things while in a clear state of mind and she should be held responsible for that, but you can’t really hold grudge against someone for something they said when they were completely out of it
Yt is messy af pushing this now lol but just like on here, they wanted space after an argument, and she wouldn't be patient, and takes it online... which fuels the fire. She needs to learn how to have healthy conflict resolutions
Ngl I thought that the fact that Trisha and Moses are dating was a joke until today
Same I was like did I hear that shit right? Lol
It is 2am.
I’m new here who is Moses
@@jacobgranados250 hilas brother
@@jacobgranados250 Moses is Trisha's future ex-boyfriend.
I blame the pizza guy for taking too long lmao.
even our pizza guy thought about not delivering when he heard the crazy conflict going on. honestly dont know why this dirty laundry is being posted and we are fed updates like its our business. this is the brainless content people should not take an interest in, feels like its just for views, people like this 'drama'.
Moses went to get the pizzas
Imagine being friends with Tisha and confiding in her, only to have all your deepest secrets and flaws thrown at you like a ton of bricks. No ma'am, that's what I call a loud PASS!
Oh honey, NO.
Get your story straight.
Everyone needs to stop letting her get away with these malicious actions. Its not normal for anyone to be treated the way she treats people.
It’s not about her getting away with it, getting angry at her about it would not help
She’s just manipulative and they are very nice people who let her back in. Idk just an idea I may be wrong
@@shay1330 they clearly are going to forgive her and she will be back on the podcast by next week.
@@billtheone3467 I hope not I honestly don’t think it’s good for her to put this all out there she needs to get help privately :/
@@billtheone3467 agreed. The money is too good
Trish honestly needs help. I feel bad for her. the things that she said are hurtful and harmful.
Yeah . I really wish she would get serious help because i do believe she would be a good person without these blow ups ... :(
she does get help.
she's getting help, but help doesn't work over night. Unfortunately it'll probably be a long time before we see significant improvement from her. Hopefully she sticks with her therapy and doesn't quit, meds would probably help her as well
Bela Frearrd she probably chooses not to use it
@@alexsutton9985 did you watch the frenemies episode where they had that doctor? she talks about all the therapy she does and she admits that she spouts out nonsense and goes through these cycles due to her bpd. and if you know about what that can look like, her blowouts make sense, not to say that she shouldnt be held accountable but to be more sensitive and compassionate to people that have disorders that they cannot handle, even with the therapy.
I think in Trisha's head, this type of turmoil is how she thinks people express closeness. Like, "we're family, and therefore we fight." Fighting is wrapped up in love for her. The drama makes her feel like you and her share this unique conflict and it will hold you together, whether husband, sister/brother in law, etc. Ironically, it is always the thing that ruins her relationships because most people see it for how unhealthy it is and know it has no place in a truly functioning and loyal relationship.
Wow, exactly!
She has bpd also
This is interesting!! Wow!!
I hate that I read this comment cause It’s made me realize how much I relate to Trisha. Being completely honest, I act like she does in arguments with my boyfriend. When I’m in those dissociated moods I actively seek out fights without meaning to. I feel so weird when me and my boyfriend don’t fight because it’s what I’m used to, it keeps me feeling emotions
@@someolii4585 It's awesome that you're aware of it though. I think Trisha is also becoming more aware of it too, and seeing her work on herself and improve is inspirational. Despite how problematic I find her in many other ways, you have to hand it to her for how far she's come in actively cultivating healthier relationships. If you relate to her negatives, you can also relate to her positives. Hang in there. :)
In actuality, all of this stems from Trisha’s negative perception of herself. Hila is everything that Trisha wishes she was. Trisha sees how close Moses was to Hila & Ethan and deliberately tried to isolate Moses. She was trying to make Moses choose between his family and her.
nah hila ain’t shit, trish loves her life, she’s just annoyed at how she’s not being treated fair. it is what it is
I think she gets possessive and wants to control who he has relationships with including his family. Toxic behavior
Also just wanted to add that this is the same thing that happened with Jason. Trisha didn't like that Jason spent time with David or his kids, so she took him on extravagant vacations so that she'd have him all to herself. She expected Jason to choose between his work and kids or her.
@@juicy_berger what? Is this bait? Surely you can’t actually think this.
Your so right like hila is beautiful withought surgery or makeup has a successful life and family, all withought having to show her tits online and just through being a classy nice person
The smile on Hilas face at the beginning of the clip says it all 😂🤷♀️
She dgaf
I think it's nerves, to talk about such drama involving herself live... Too much for Hila, not her cup of tea
@@K3tK0 that, or she was thinking she knew karma did it’s thing..
WHY is Moses with Trisha ? Hasn’t he mentioned he thinks he’s autistic. Get him the hell away from Trisha she’s gonna be the end of him and this family
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Oh I don’t remember ever hearing that. Ugh honestly out of all of this the most I feel bad for are Moses and Hila. It sucks so much. This isn’t youtube drama it’s fucking reality
I am way to invested in this drama... I blame the pandemic. Thanks 2020 lmao
Same dude, same
ikr? i dislike both of them but *-*
Y’all are handling this with so much class. ❤️
I totally agree
❤️
Agree!
@celestial moon I mean. she does have some sort of mental problems. I understand what you mean though - but yeah that's kinda how you have to describe it :/
Fr the class they have
Yes, Trisha is making a mountain out of a molehill
I’ve been in a similar situation with my brother & his now wife. She would constantly talk shit on Facebook about our family & tell us constantly that my brother basically wants nothing to do with my mom & I. Wanting to get to the bottom of things, we invited them over to talks things out. He denied it & she confessed she had bpd & felt threatened by the closeness between us, making her feel like the odd one out; when my mom & I would go out of our way to make her feel welcome & loved. It always seemed like nothing was good enough for her... To this day she lashes out at mostly me for no reason & my connection to my brother is almost nonexistent. I’ve had nothing but love & understanding for her but she’s basically made her lies a reality because my brother feels so bad about everything he keeps us at a distance out of fear for upsetting her more. Making it feel like he wants nothing to do with us.
I hope their situation has a better ending than mine because it’s hell & I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy...
I'm so sorry that's happening to you and your family.
So true she’s very toxic can’t have her around me
Or maybe y’all are overbearing and don’t respect his relationship
Been watching Trisha for 12 years. This is what she does, destroys all relationships. Your family is being destroyed, Moses is being isolated how many more red flags does your family need before someone gets more physically and mentally abused? She's quit the podcast, this is your chance to bring calm back in 1 part of your life. Let her quit and save your podcast. It's stressful for viewers to watch her spew out hate too.
Very true but we can’t be just blame Trisha. Moses has a part in this too because he’s telling Trisha things and his family other things and he just watches this shit literally hit the fan like they said. Moses just watches and he just stays quiet when confronted they all need to talk but knowing Trisha she’s gonna do all that again...
She hit moses
@@alexsutton9985 Yup, that's a fact. By the huge bruising, probably more than once.
@@twistersister2546 what bruising?
@@Hannah-ix7lc Bruising on Moses upper arm, Trisha physically abused him!
Trish privately will be nice to you and apologize but then on camera will act like the victim, like she has something wrong with her and she needs help
@Shutbyotch she says she is doing as much as she can to work on herself, but then she says she doesn’t go to the open classes on zoom
@Shutbyotch with this current behavior it doesn't sound like she's getting much help.
does anybody else feel that moses is lowkey the manipulator in this situation or?
trisha doesn't seem as happy lately :( he gives me bad vibes
@@kindaldolphin really ? I feel like everybody on tiktok seems to love him even on TH-cam
@@crystal71333 I think in these podcasts it was a constant Trisha experiencing Moses saying they didn't like her, and would talk shit about her and Moses. And Moses would say they weren't close (him and his family). But Hila was communicating with Moses about how they DID like her and wanted to talk. So, Moses WAS the issue. But now it seems they all communicate very frequently and to each other so Moses isn't the mediator.
No. I think its just hard to talk to Trisha. She is difficult to communicate with
I don't know, I think it's more likely hes used to making excuses for her. I'm sorry, Trisha is a loose cannon
This channel is where we used to go to escape from crazy people and joke about them doing insane things. Now Trisha and the toxic bullshit have taken over a majority of the content.
Exactly. The majority of the H3 fanbase is here for the memes not this drama stuff.
Ya but this should make a meme eventually just wait watch sum gonna
It’s entertaining tho
@@jakeschill9239 it was at first but now it’s just cringe as hell.
THIS, I used to watch ALL the podcasts. After Trisha, lots of respect has been lost and I'm not following nowhere near as before
i’m only tolerating trisha bc of h3
I'm a H3 fan and I definitely do not tolerate Trisha
Frienemies is too good tho
@@cally_44 for real, stop bringing her on the show... this is the first time i've watched in about a month cause i got so sick of it
Crazy how we thought she changed and I had to check the date cause I thought this was from this current blow up hahaha
People are going to hate me for saying this, but excusing Trisha’s toxic abusive behaviour just because she claims a mental illness is not..it. We should be holding people accountable for their actions, whether they have a mental illness or not. People with mental illnesses shouldn’t be treated like children. If you do something shitty, you should be called out.
exactly. it‘s called „self-responsibility“. you can’t go like „I have an aggression issue diagnosed, so now I should be allowed to punch people in the face“.
Exactly!!
Well... we live in a pansy, cushy, world.. where we want everyone to feel “comfortable” lmao. NO. If someone has abusive and TOXIC tendencies then they should be called out for it.
@@cottoncandymuffinful thank u! She isn't taking any accountability! It isn't enough to say ur working on ur self if ur not committing to a different way of life and all the therapeutic options! The fact that ethan is taking accountability when he didn't do anything in the first place isn't helping her... But they really do seem to care and that's very sweet!
I fully agree with this. Mental illness is not an excuse to rip people apart over and over and over and completely getting away with it every single time
Ya gotta stop enabling her bad behavior. Its ridiculous the way she acts
Its not enabling when you acknowledge someone's difficulties and still see someone as a human being.
How is Ethan enabling her behavior?
Rogatus Trisha chooses to be a terrible person and they let her back in knowing she is. You can be mad and not go straight for the unrelated cheap shot to cut deep.
She is a human being sure but she’s also an adult, she makes her decisions, she should be held accountable. Its her choice to stay immature and choose not to change, she knows it and addresses too hut chooses to be bad. Also looks like she hit moses. Basically she gets way too much slack.
@@alexsutton9985 I think if they let her back on podcast, sooner or later she will still make mean comments about the family. I don't think she will stop. She will keep on throwing shade.
The kleins had it rough. Ethan called her bestie and this is what she does to him.
Yeah very sad
Ik you guys want to get her back for views but please don't. Her reaction was over the top and even tho, she has a condition but still, you both deserve respect.
It’s not even about views-It was a genuinely interesting podcast with their dynamic.
@@evan4905 ik but it ain't worth it. No toxic drama needed on the podcast 😬😬
@@evan4905 I wouldn’t call it interesting but dramatic, toxic and anxiety- inducing. She was almost about to jump Ethan at the end, aggressive, unbecoming as she loves to say.. Please let H3 get back to making their regular cool content because the Trisha thing ain’t it
@@solarflower2464 exactly! It’s gotten so out of hand each blow out it keeps getting more and more toxic. I don’t even get why people find her meltdowns entertaining. It’s fun to watch them when she doesn’t go off the deep end.
I think it’s very clear Trisha is jealous of Ethan and Hila’s secure relationship and that they stand up for each other because they respect each other. Moses does not respect Trisha and I guarantee she wishes he would stand up for her openly.
Aw reminds me of her and Jason. She wants people to display their love for her but goes about it so terribly
How does Moses not respect Trisha ? What did he do
It was so crazy to see Trisha freak out and she really seemed to have NO control of what she was saying, it seemed like she wasn't even there.
She is jealous of what you have she was saying to Ethan he's to stop wearing teddy fresh she's very vindictive and doesn't have boundaries
Yeah I noticed that too.
Dude your not therapist no one cares
A^
exactly and then when she brings up Theodore having a nanny, she talks down to Ethan saying that he's a bad parent and acting like Because he asked her what she would do, that he's lashing out at her because she's infertile.... who the fuck said anything about her being infertile? She's the only one that brought that shit up.I don't get how she can be upset about being infertile whenever she's not helping her case by shoving jelly donuts up her vagina.
She also started using the word "infertile" before admitting she's not, showing jealousy of Ethan and Hila's family unit & child.
She probably doesn't grasp that it usually takes more than one load to get pregnant. Thankfully. She and Moses should NOT be trying for a child right now, if ever.
As much as I think it’s admirable for Ethan to be considerate of Trishas mental illnesses and not hold what she says against her, I also think he’s allowing her to use her illnesses as an excuse to act however she wants and that’s not healthy at all. Mental illness is not an excuse to treat other people like shit, and if she’s struggling then she needs to get a new therapist and get back on her meds.
This 💯
It really says a lot about Ethan and Hila as individuals and a couple, they’re able to think through situations like this and not only forgive but really try to understand what’s going on with Trisha rather than just leading out. They’re the kind of friends Trisha needs
“Sad, weird pizza party” is exactly how I imagined the aftermath of that episode
Honestly I don’t think the podcast is worth it. Stay connected with her of course but I don’t think this is good for anyone anymore. 😞
Uhh it’s good for me 😂😭
Please delete your comment we want the podcast
The thing is what Trisha said was true about the channel. This series has revived it. His relevancy has been going down for a while
When you assume that someone doesn't like you it can turn into a self fulfilling prophecy because you then treat that person like someone that hates you which is highly negative and then causes that person not to like you...
Dang, i never saw it that way. 😟 Facts.
@@branch621 it's a mistake I have made many many times before I realized what I was doing. Not fun. I hope you learn a little faster from my mistakes buddy. We have to love even when we don't feel loved. That's the only way to win.
You're a very wise person. Here's an internet gold star for you. 🌟
@@shirin8609 if I can't peel it off of a price of paper and stick it on my forehead, it doesn't count. But thanks. =P
@@shirin8609 also, I can't tell if you are making fun of me or not. 😂
Don't bring her back until or unless she can respect the both of you, your children, your family, and your choices. She'll never learn if you coddle and tolerate her behavior.
How many kids do they have?
@@jupiterisaak1004 just one. The baby Boy named Theodore.
It’s just that kind of treatment that will make her worse though. She has really really deep trauma and that is the reason she doesn’t know how to react and ‘keep a level head’. If they simply abandon her she’ll only get worse. It sucks but in some cases you need to treat someone with mental health issues like they have mental health issues. If you treat them like they don’t have these problems it can be borderline abuse. For example, where you might shout at your friend who has not experienced trauma you shouldn’t also shout at your friend who has been in an abusive relationship. Certain treatment can trigger ptsd and worsen the person’s condition, even cause behavioural relapses.
They handled this so well. They are doing the right thing when they speak to her gently and listen to her and encourage her to talk about her feelings and respond to her in a rational and calm way.
They understand Trisha’s situation better than us, therefore they know how to handle it better than us.
@@abbiexx1953 Since you've written so much, I feel an obligation to say that my mindset had completely changed when it comes to Trisha. The last couple months I've seen much more of her, ethan, and their relationship. I understand much more about who she is as a person and all the trauma in her history that has contributed to who she has become. I'm all in on watching her progression as she heals being surrounded by people who legitimately love her and want her to get better.
@@EFantasic yeah, as awful the things she’s done are (and this does not erase the things she’s done), she’s done a lot a good on education about mental health and trauma.
Also I was also feeling a bit annoyed at the time because there are so many comments calling her crazy which I think is just so disrespectful. Whether a person likes her or not, it’s never okay to talk about someone who is struggling with mental health like that.
Ethan’s doing great eating better he looks like 5+ years ago Ethan very slim
I dunno if he looks better because he's thinner, I'm not even sure if he is thinner...but he definitely looks better
He's wearing black.
o ethan was a hell of a lot skinnier in the beginning
This didn't age well.. anyone else feel like this is the same Trisha a year later in 2021?
Well duh she never changes, that was all the dumb kids who assumed that
Don't let her around your children
They all really need to have a sit-down along with Moses. It sounds like he's playing both sides and it's definitely causing problems.
Moses is sus its like what Hila was saying if somebody keeps saying something over and over again you have to question if they are really getting it out of nowhere and Moses actions or better yet lack of action these days proves Trisha isn't making the stuff up about him not liking his family.
And Hila mentioned it here Mose trying to explain mess away by saying its for the show and entertainment like he's trying to either disassociate from it or trying to be facetious and funny about it as to say he sees his family issues as entertaining and doesn't take them seriously.
I know Hila isn't lying about him saying that cause he literally said the same thing when ppl asked him how he felt over frienemies ending and what Trisha was doing. This is while she making video after video on Ethan pretty much putting dirt on his name and Moses says. "Their just entertainers having a fight. Its not a big deal." The deleted it after ppl started dragging him.
Moses is a trash brother
Again Ethan, it is NOT YOUR FAULT.
Protect your family thats all I can say♥️
Hila, keeping it clean. Inspiring the way Hila kept her kl. classy.
Trisha has an unhealthy relationship with women in general. Her self esteem issues will make it incredibly hard for her to have a healthy relationship with another woman
Seriously, stop making excuses for Trisha. Stop giving her a platform for her to drag you down with her.
Yes, exactly.
Algorithm being shady af
i’m glad Ethan got his thick crust. even if he did end up regretting it.
I just feel sorry for Hila. The worlds have collided and look what happened.
She doesn’t deserve this especially involving her whole family too. Just a sad situation.
I have BPD and see so much of myself in Trisha just not to the same level because I learned to shut myself away from people and real life situations. I'm so glad Ethan and Hila are nice about her as she needs people like them in her life, I just wish she could see that all the time
I agree, sometimes I catch myself deflecting minor accusations and criticism and I used to just lash out or completely avoid the situation. I’m no way like that anymore but I think it all just depends.
Trisha needed time to check comments before she knew she should apologize. She has no moral compass.
Absolutely true. She should be barred from all social media platforms.
wow its almost like trisha brings LOADS of unnecessary drama with her literally everywhere. lmaooooooo
That’s literally her job
Alternative title:"Ethan's tuberculosis! ASMR "
I was looking for this freakin comment I could n o t stop zoning in on that noise :’)
That shit was all I could hear omg
Its his acid reflux I do the same thing when I don't take my meds
Hila is the nicest person, you know if someone blew up at trisha like that, trish would not have replied nicely like h3 or Hila, and its very telling
The FACT people are defending trish is seriously sad lmao
Exactly. Moses should have broken up with her on the spot. When she called his sister the C word
Trisha has always had a cultish following. They come to her defense every time she blows up and causes drama.
@@solarflower2464 seriously. the real culprit here is Moses imo. Hes the one that should be meditating conflict between Trisha and the Klein's. But he seems to take side with whoever he's talking to at the moment without resolving the conflict resulting in miscommunication and tension.
Been scrolling through the comments for like 5 mins have yet to see one comment supporting Trisha... can you copy one for me cuz I feel like you just made this comments for likes without any evidence lol... that said I don't have social media so I dont know what people are saying there.
@@R.B.90 look at Trishas Instagram story xx
This response is a good lesson in being mature and compassionate.
Watching this after their most recent fight hurts because I’m hoping that she will come back and I feel like she might because I have BPD as well we force ourselves away from the situation but then regret it afterwards
Nah she’s done for. No more
She’s a liability
After all the videos she posted today I think it’s toast.
I think it's for the best that frenemies is done. I can imagine how hard it was on Ethan and the team
@@kiwibrada7286 I do agree as well because I feel like they could make up that’s a huge possibility but this would not be an end to the fights there would be another one
@@-lilghostie-9084 yeah I think Ethan and Hila are big enough to make up for the family sake.
It’s dangerous to allow someone like Trisha a platform
This is such a dumb comment.
Grow up.