@@Allthingstbone. Agreed!!! I sat and played next to him in 2010, in the US Marine Band Alumni Band Concert. Him and Al Johnson. It was a great experience and both men still had chops. I assume the band behind the man are the Marines of Washington, D.C
I noticed that they’re playing faster than normal and they also added random tempo changes and stuff like that. I’m literally just doing what’s on the paper. Hopefully I can play this sometime in the band. I have the solo part and I play euphonium.
The way i look at solo literature, it's largely up to the player to interpret the piece where it's possible and make it their own by adding their own flair. This solo is such quintessential trombone literature, and it is no exception to that. Hope I helped!
I've broken copyright rules to share this piece with those who didn't quite understand. You understand! This was introduced to me by a wonderful trombone teacher and I went euphonium on it, going high when it dared not and going low where it couldn't.
Though my opinion is irrelevant i think I'll make a list of pro's and con's Pros: the speed in which the soloist performed is amazing. I can hear he's comfortable with it and knows it. That ending gives me chills 😍 I can feel the fun the band is having having and I like this interpretation. Solo has a very bright tone. Cons: it seems like he trombone speeds through some parts, and doesn't give notes their full value which makes the background sound off in certain parts (not many). And there is one part that he slows and the band does not follow His sound seems forced sometimes. Could be considered too bright I personally like the euphonium better on this solo with the range and sound its capable of. Though i do like this band's interpretation. I prefer the original. They should add more contrast in the tempo later into the song. It just seems fast. They could really milk the beautiful parts easily with the trombone. Tounging gets messy in some parts Overall great :)
Thank you very much for your comment, your opinion is relevant because it is yours. It is fun ready and appreciating others comments and opinions. It was quite a treat when our band played this solos with Mr Erdman. I have performed this solo on several instances myself and it is a really fun solo. It lends itself to many interpretations and there really is no right or wrong answer. Thank you for taking time to watch and comment
I suppose you’re entitled to your opinion, and I understand your views. Jimmy is a throwback to a long-nearly-dead performance style. His sound was never forced, but you may have that impression because he always played on a .525 bore Bach 36. During my college years, I’m certain to have had the exact same reaction as you did….as I was majoring on trombone and studying orchestral style. However, I truly have grown to love and appreciate various playing styles over the years. Also, regarding the tone quality, one must take into account the audio quality….live performance….probably a fairly primitive recording setup….and how was the audio processed? As far as full value notes….yes we all learn that as students, but in the real world, do we REALLY hold to full value all the time? I think that makes for a bunch of boring, cookie-cutter performances. In today’s trombone world, Jimmy is unique, virtuosic, and quite musical. Jimmy is one of very few old school trombone soloists I would place as equal with Arthur’s Pryor and Bob Isele.
Hello thanks for your comment. I believe the arrangement was done my Thomas Knox of the United States Marine Band. I assume that it is something added by him or by the soloist Mr Erdman, I have never seen it in print
polar 33 I have been working on this solo for 27 years, I performed it several times and took second in a solo competition. Each time it gets a little better but I have never been satisfied. The best part of learning music is the journey to get the piece ready as well as the performance. Learn to enjoy the journey to get there
@@no-gracias9863 I ended up getting a harder one called blue bells of Scotland since this one was too easy Good luck on ur contest though Easy song don't be scared of it
First thank you for your comment and for your subscribe. I am a little confused about your comment. Andante technically is at a "walking speed" which is indicated at between 76-108. He does speed up and slow down in a rubato manner to add interest. 2 after 1 we have a con anime marking which has nothing to do with japanese cartoons but is an indication of movement a little faster and are marcato style to provide contrast to the beginning section and to the coming cantando section which indicates a singing style. Music to me is so much more than a strict metronome marking, there is feeling, passion, spontaneity, all things you don't get from a book. I have heard recordings from Lindberg, Allessi, on this work and others and they always deviate from printed tempos to suit there needs. Also some consideration to the accompaniment medium should be given ie. if say played with organ (like the original) faster tempos are not impossible but a bit more difficult to make sound good. I the instance of this recording he is playing with The Presidents Own Marine and they can play at any tempo they want. Now if your intention is an honest conversation I welcome you but if you only mean to be a internet troll I suggest you crawl back under your troll rock because there is no time for that. Thank you
Nothing wrong with that! Clarity of articulation has become a lost art. Everyone wants to play everything legato and all full value…and it sounds boring. They don’t want to make music…all they want to do is show off their lovely sound. Sound is only one part of performance. The rest takes a lot more imagination and effort.
Je ne comprends pas ce que vous voulez dire, Morceau est un standard dans le répertoire solo du trombone. as-tu quelque chose contre le trombone ou est-ce parce que le soliste et le groupe sont américains? Send feedback History Saved Community Je ne comprends pas ce que vous voulez dire, Morceau est un standard dans le répertoire solo du trombone. as-tu quelque chose contre le trombone ou est-ce parce que le soliste et le groupe sont américains? Send feedback History Saved Community
I completely disagree with you, its a fantastic piece that i feel is both musical, displays the skill of the player, and considering its actually pretty simple as it revolves around scales it is impressive how its been woven.
@@montagne8820 You obviously must be one of these "higher-louder-faster" types that prefers style over substance and is easily impressed by hubristic bravado.
@@SOBIESKI_freedom I honestly think that the overall dark rounded sound of the ensemble complements the soloist very well but I’m not very fond of the interpretation
@@noahbromberg3675 For me, the sound/tone wasn't the issue; it was the interpretation of the composition that I had an issue with. I doubt that the composer would have conceived it in the manner it was performed in this video. I think Lindberg's rendition is nicer and well rendered.
@@SOBIESKI_freedom I haven’t heard Lindbergs performance, I’ll have to listen to it, I happen to be performing this solo soon so I want to find my own stylistic choices
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Erdman is simply fantastic, one of the best trombone soloists ever. His sound is crisp and nearly perfect.
and such a personable and friendly guy. I have enjoyed so much the times I have gotten to visit and hear him play live.
@@Allthingstbone. Agreed!!! I sat and played next to him in 2010, in the US Marine Band Alumni Band Concert. Him and Al Johnson. It was a great experience and both men still had chops. I assume the band behind the man are the Marines of Washington, D.C
I have to play this all and memorize it in 3 weeks😓 wish me luck
You got this bud! This is my solo ensemble piece as well
Michael Davis same here 😔
Michael Davis How’d it go?
I have to play this at my audition for college
How'd it go
That d flat toward the end is so satisfying
I noticed that they’re playing faster than normal and they also added random tempo changes and stuff like that. I’m literally just doing what’s on the paper. Hopefully I can play this sometime in the band. I have the solo part and I play euphonium.
It is a beautiful solo, good luck
How'd it go?
The way i look at solo literature, it's largely up to the player to interpret the piece where it's possible and make it their own by adding their own flair. This solo is such quintessential trombone literature, and it is no exception to that. Hope I helped!
Notice the different markings and key changes
I agree. Competent playing, but weird interpretation by both soloist and band in terms of tempi. Not my favorite performance.
I've broken copyright rules to share this piece with those who didn't quite understand. You understand! This was introduced to me by a wonderful trombone teacher and I went euphonium on it, going high when it dared not and going low where it couldn't.
I got this for my district audition solo, I am terrified
same
Part 1: 0:09
Part 2: 2:24
Part 3: 4:56
I have to play this for Central District this saturday 😞🤦🏾♂️
I get to play this this year, I still can't play the high c# yet, ughhh
Update: I got division 1 at district Solo and Ensemble:)
@@Xtroid how did you pratice your high range 😭😭😭😭
@@aletheia874 i just worked up to it, played low to play high, and used some Remington warmups every day. It really helps!
Great piece, I played it my freshman year
Im playing for my freshman year this year
@@christian-bo7pl Cool, yeah it's a fairly easy piece and really fun
@@Prodbyhollywood I am a trombonist with no arms, so it is not easy for me. I also lack lips, they were chewed off by fish.
@@stansmith4054 same burh
I’m a freshman and learning this along with Grondahl, hoping to perform these.
1:20 that jump to the g.. oh my god..
Fantastic
In the Allegro moderato says the tempo 104, but he plays the peace with more speed, can anyone tell me exactly how much it is? I mean 120...
Feels more like 150 to me
Much of that lays in the hands of the conductor.
Anyone know if this has been transposed for brass bands? It would make a a great 'bone solo!
It's a solo
@@no-gracias9863 he meant for him, he was wondering if there's an arrangement for a traditional brass band
I’m quite certain it has been arranged for brass band, and is likely available in the UK.
20 likes and ill do this for my sophomore year solo and ensemble comp (wish me luck)
OMG I am doing this as a junior this year! Where are you going for Solo and Ensemble this year?
@@WolfgangXP65-67I’m in Texas!! So TSSEC!
The initial jump from Bflat to Gflat is athletic!
Likewise from Aflat to Gflat a few lines later.
I was thinking the jump from e to high c sharp is a lot lol
@@XtroidAYO We meet again :0! Yeah that jump is very daunting!!!
@@WolfgangXP65-67 hey broski!
@@Xtroid how u doing fam? Solo going well?
I don’t think so, this solo is strange in that the meter is concealed. There is no misprint in the score just feels like it
I am going to genuinely lose my marbles over this piece
Though my opinion is irrelevant i think I'll make a list of pro's and con's
Pros: the speed in which the soloist performed is amazing. I can hear he's comfortable with it and knows it.
That ending gives me chills 😍
I can feel the fun the band is having having and I like this interpretation.
Solo has a very bright tone.
Cons:
it seems like he trombone speeds through some parts, and doesn't give notes their full value which makes the background sound off in certain parts (not many). And there is one part that he slows and the band does not follow
His sound seems forced sometimes. Could be considered too bright
I personally like the euphonium better on this solo with the range and sound its capable of. Though i do like this band's interpretation. I prefer the original.
They should add more contrast in the tempo later into the song. It just seems fast. They could really milk the beautiful parts easily with the trombone.
Tounging gets messy in some parts
Overall great :)
Thank you very much for your comment, your opinion is relevant because it is yours. It is fun ready and appreciating others comments and opinions. It was quite a treat when our band played this solos with Mr Erdman. I have performed this solo on several instances myself and it is a really fun solo. It lends itself to many interpretations and there really is no right or wrong answer. Thank you for taking time to watch and comment
I suppose you’re entitled to your opinion, and I understand your views. Jimmy is a throwback to a long-nearly-dead performance style.
His sound was never forced, but you may have that impression because he always played on a .525 bore Bach 36. During my college years, I’m certain to have had the exact same reaction as you did….as I was majoring on trombone and studying orchestral style. However, I truly have grown to love and appreciate various playing styles over the years. Also, regarding the tone quality, one must take into account the audio quality….live performance….probably a fairly primitive recording setup….and how was the audio processed?
As far as full value notes….yes we all learn that as students, but in the real world, do we REALLY hold to full value all the time? I think that makes for a bunch of boring, cookie-cutter performances. In today’s trombone world, Jimmy is unique, virtuosic, and quite musical.
Jimmy is one of very few old school trombone soloists I would place as equal with Arthur’s Pryor and Bob Isele.
Funnily enough the solo was originally written for trombone, so this is the original composition
very powerful; piece coming from an all nation trombonist
My score is "Amoroso sostenuto." Best signature ever.
God sound
Just out of curiosity for the last four bars is that something that was on another arrangement or was that something you added in?
Hello thanks for your comment. I believe the arrangement was done my Thomas Knox of the United States Marine Band. I assume that it is something added by him or by the soloist Mr Erdman, I have never seen it in print
@@Allthingstbone Ok thanks!
Is this recording from a record?
I took this from a CD, the original very well could have been from a record.
originally I had this on a cassette tape, I wore out two of them before they released on cd
I think, considering the considerable surface noise (see what i did there), it was obviously mastered from an LP.
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I like some of what he does with the tempo. I just think he goes overboard with it at times.
0:00
4:30
I'm playing this for a contest help
Practice it slow ad you can
@@Allthingstbone am in middle school
polar 33 I have been working on this solo for 27 years, I performed it several times and took second in a solo competition. Each time it gets a little better but I have never been satisfied. The best part of learning music is the journey to get the piece ready as well as the performance. Learn to enjoy the journey to get there
@@enma6353 no way! I'm in high school sophomore and berly playing this , but i only have like 2 years playing trombone so that's good.
@@no-gracias9863 I ended up getting a harder one called blue bells of Scotland since this one was too easy
Good luck on ur contest though
Easy song don't be scared of it
Ps. At bar 5+ i stay up an octave, on a good day. v to turn musical is an athlete's dream v
Pps. at 4 1/2 i begin to milk it. So sweet. (On euphonium, trombone keeps its licks for the final bars.)
4:37
I have to play 2:18 this weekend🙃
Good luck
Jason Smith I wanna cry lol I’m a freshman and I’ve had this piece for ab a week now
A good start is to practice slowly with a metronome
Jason Smith that’s my plan lol. I’m gettin there
Munchercruncher hows it going with the solo
Anyone got a treble clef arrangement of this?
Iestyn Gaming ye, it’s for a Bb baritone
yea the treble clef comes off of imslp
2:25 2:54
Is there any way I can get this arrangment?
I can order it for you, where are you located?
@@Allthingstbone is it on some website? could I just order it myself? thanks
www.musicarts.com
This is the company for which I work
@@Allthingstbone thanks a lot, going to play it next year
Snaturato!
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Bien je lui m'est 8sur10
The beginning too fast. It's supposed to be 63 he plays it way faster
First thank you for your comment and for your subscribe. I am a little confused about your comment. Andante technically is at a "walking speed" which is indicated at between 76-108. He does speed up and slow down in a rubato manner to add interest. 2 after 1 we have a con anime marking which has nothing to do with japanese cartoons but is an indication of movement a little faster and are marcato style to provide contrast to the beginning section and to the coming cantando section which indicates a singing style. Music to me is so much more than a strict metronome marking, there is feeling, passion, spontaneity, all things you don't get from a book. I have heard recordings from Lindberg, Allessi, on this work and others and they always deviate from printed tempos to suit there needs. Also some consideration to the accompaniment medium should be given ie. if say played with organ (like the original) faster tempos are not impossible but a bit more difficult to make sound good. I the instance of this recording he is playing with The Presidents Own Marine and they can play at any tempo they want. Now if your intention is an honest conversation I welcome you but if you only mean to be a internet troll I suggest you crawl back under your troll rock because there is no time for that. Thank you
You are correct, it is more about feeling and expression.
Critics, please sit in the back and make no noise.
@tutvid
I dont hear the trombnne
Where, at what time stamp, I have no trouble hearing the trombnne
A little to fast in some legato parts for my liking.
I respect your opinion
@@Allthingstbone Upon more work on my solo, I think I agree with your interpretation more then the orignal one that I was taught.
Did he mess up at the cadenza ad lib.? Everything else is so perfect jus wondering
Yeah he missed the partial in the ascending scale. Not even the best are infallible.
It was a live performance. No one is perfect every time.
the tonguing is too strong, very traditional american performing style
Thomas Chan it’s a stylistic choice, I don’t think there’s wrong or right way to do it
fairly better than a weak articulation that lacks definition or differentiation no?
Nothing wrong with that! Clarity of articulation has become a lost art. Everyone wants to play everything legato and all full value…and it sounds boring. They don’t want to make music…all they want to do is show off their lovely sound. Sound is only one part of performance. The rest takes a lot more imagination and effort.
Go easy on the rubato.
étrange version et choix musicaux mal appropriés
Je ne comprends pas ce que vous voulez dire, Morceau est un standard dans le répertoire solo du trombone. as-tu quelque chose contre le trombone ou est-ce parce que le soliste et le groupe sont américains?
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What is so inappropriate about them? I think Jimmy’s interpretation is perfectly in line with French style and tradition.
What a ridiculous performance. More technical hubris than music.
I completely disagree with you, its a fantastic piece that i feel is both musical, displays the skill of the player, and considering its actually pretty simple as it revolves around scales it is impressive how its been woven.
@@montagne8820 You obviously must be one of these "higher-louder-faster" types that prefers style over substance and is easily impressed by hubristic bravado.
@@SOBIESKI_freedom I honestly think that the overall dark rounded sound of the ensemble complements the soloist very well but I’m not very fond of the interpretation
@@noahbromberg3675 For me, the sound/tone wasn't the issue; it was the interpretation of the composition that I had an issue with. I doubt that the composer would have conceived it in the manner it was performed in this video. I think Lindberg's rendition is nicer and well rendered.
@@SOBIESKI_freedom I haven’t heard Lindbergs performance, I’ll have to listen to it, I happen to be performing this solo soon so I want to find my own stylistic choices
My advice to the soloist is that he's taking too much Levothyroxine. Cut back on the dose , at least before playing this piece.
Oh look everyone…we have both a critic AND a comedian.
@@LyleFrancisDelp Yep , that's what I am ! 😋
Absolutely TERRIBLE recording!!!!
Assuming (and hoping) you mean the audio quality….this was Live performance, and very likely primitive recording equipment.
4:55
2:23
2:16
4:39
2:24