It's crazy that so many people IN the community see it as a joke, but literally every single non-rider looks at is as something they would totally ride and bring them into motorcycling. The impact of bikes like this on culture is arguably bigger than any "legitimate" fast bike.
the only people that look down on it are elitists. any real biker can see that the grom fits its role just as perfectly as the BMW 1000RR, or the Africa twin. Its not designed for going fast
@@redactedrider7606 i think it looks much nicer. and you know the answer to cracking things doing stoppies? dont do stoppies. theyre childish and you look dumb when you drop your bike
Before I got my first bike earlier this year, this bike would never been in my possession. I got a 2021 Indian scout bobber 60 and I’ll only go faster from there.
A 60 year old kid that loves this version of the Grom. I had the original and then the Monkey. I can say that it’s giggle ratio is the highest of any motorcycle I’ve owned. Yes I still practice balance point wheelies on it.
I've got a full motorcycle licence, live in London and bought the grom to start on. 3 years later it's still my only bike and has taken me to work, to the seaside and given me countless hours of fun on the road. I'd still like a bike to go faster and do longer trips on but as Zack says it's just so easy to love I don't think I'd part with it. Looks like having 2 bikes would be the perfect situation!
@@Mandem909 I was in the same position, trying to chose an all rounder. Those bikes are all excellent options (crf is not great for a pillion but is very capable). Sadly I only have an A2 licence so the CB500X was a perfect fit.
Zack, I really appreciate how encouraging you are to us new riders. It’s easy for a new rider to get discouraged when someone is condescending and unwilling to be helpful. Thank you for your kindness and willingness to help. You and Ari have been one of the reasons I’ve absolutely fallen in love with motorcycles at 52 years old.
Pay no mind to elitists! "GET A REAL BIIIIIIKE" That's just their fragile ego talking All that matters is that your knees are in the breeze! Ride whateverrrrrrrr you want! Vespa, trike, any import or domestic bike - it's whatever you like!
I love how offened people are by groms...the thing about them is its not about numbers, it's about throwing your leg over something ridiculous and enjoying the fact. There's no sex appeal, or masculinity booster from it. But it's just a pure and simple bike. In the age of bigger and more complex motorcycles, it's a nice to see something simple. Plus they are bullet proof, I'm at 13k miles on mine, and still nothing major has broke just the normal wear use parts.
I've known Groms to share garage space with Ducatis and become the favorite. Great off road too (with a small/lightweight rider) with only a pair of knobbies since the bike is so light you can just heave it wherever it needs to go.
Not a motorcyclist, yet! but what’s off putting to me about the Grom is the same thing as the selling point - the size. Drivers near me can tend to be extremely selfish and unconcerned with others and their safety. I don’t *know* this, but I *feel* that on a larger bike, it’s easier to be seen. Also, I kinda live where, and my personal transit needs require that I need to use the highway all the time. But they’re so cheap and I’d love to try one out!! I’m torn!!
@@JoshuaKoerner With the high seating position they're pretty noticeable in traffic. But with your highway needs I would recommend getting a used "full size" bike for $3k or less as your first bike. Even if it's not exactly the bike you want, it will help you learn about features and ergonomics that wouldn't have previously seemed important when it comes time to get the bike that you really want.
I have a ducati monster, and a few classic bikes, and my 19' monkey and 22' grom are by far the funnest bikes I have. There is nothing better then running mundane errands around town with the mini motos. Being able to go WOT through 4-5 gears and still do the speed limit while getting 100+ MPG when gas is $4+ a gallon is fantastic. And the best part is, there is so much aftermarket support with them, that if you do get bored, slap on a new ECU tune, or slap on a different exhaust, or slap on some different wheels and tires, it's truly endless. It's just like the saying for a car says "its more fun to drive a slow car fast then drive a fast car slow".
@@FerventReminder That's a tough one to answer.. Even though they're both based on the same platform they feel night and day different. It honestly depends on the mood you're in. The Monkey has a more vintage cruiser vibe feel to it. Meanwhile the Grom feels more refined, and it handles a little better, it really likes being pushed in corners. So if you're in a "I'm going to take the long twisty way" kinda mood, the Grom. If you're in a "Lets blast some Led Zeppelin" kinda mood, the Monkey takes the cake that day. Realistically, either one puts a giant smile on my face.
I have been riding over 20 years and just bought a 23 Grom SP with ABS just as a commuter and what a blast. The ABS is just on the front wheel, you can still skid the back tire to play around. Such a fun bike.
Bought a grom after being totally discouraged failing to ride the RE Himalayan as a new rider and being short (5'3) and afer countless drops I felt like I would never be able to do it. Well I absolutely LOVE my grom, I've been riding heaps and feel very comfortable on it. Yeah I can't go fast but that's not the goal! I'm learning and becoming more comfortable on the road. And I get loads of looks and laughs which just makes my day. Tiny bikes are awesome and I think when I'm ready for a bigger bike I don't think I'll part with the grom
Probably a bad idea to start with Himalayan if you're 5'3. Adventure bikes are all tall. You could try the RE Scram 411, which is the Himalayan motor anyway. Or, a Kawasaki KLX230SM.
A 2015 Grom was my first motorbike. I managed to find one a cheap with only about 100 Km on it as a guy had bought it for his girlfriend to try to get her into riding & she wasn't into it. It's great for commuting in Auckland, as you can lane split, park downtown for free & gas cost about $7 every three weeks. Gratuitous Revelry Omit Motorways
I hadn’t ridden in years and my buddy offered me to ride his bike xtra bike, a Grom. I’m like “I have no idea what a Grom is but I’ll be over in 5 minutes!” 20 minutes into the ride I was dragging peg, so much for feeling rusty, the Grom is one of the most FUN motorcycles ever made!!!
I've got a 2014 grom. The hilarious pleasure of riding everywhere flat out has to be experienced to be understood. The handling is insane, especially when you upgrade the suspension.
I have a love/hate relationship with this thing. Sitting at home, safely away from any of them, I think "that's stupid why would I need that?" Then I see one in person and start getting my wallet out. What saves me from actually buying one is that the speed limit on my road is 45 and surrounded by 50s and 55s. It would be hard to get it out of my driveway lol. I bet it's a riot though.
@@acethedisturbed That's the problem I have here in Canada, too. To get anywhere you have to take roads that are 80 or 100 km/h (freeways) so not being able to do that really takes away a ton of its usability appeal. Of course I still want one (or a Monkey, or the CT Cub if it ever makes it to Canada). Also they're pretty expensive for what they are.
I own several bikes. 2016 Goldwing, 2022 Grom, 2022 Navi (lady friend learning to ride), and a 1970 CT-90. The Wing is my daily rider to work (24 miles) and cross country trips but on weekends The GROM is my get out and ride around for fun. I have over 1k on the GROM in just over a year. Different bikes for different reasons. Gotta get Milk? GROM it. Overnight camping CT-90 for dirt. At 66 years of age, just being able to ride is what I enjoy most. Find your Happy bike, and ride it like you stole it.
Wow. I was considering exchanging my 2018 CRF1000 for a Grom (city) and a GL1800 (highway). I saw a 2019 Goldwing with damage but underbid and missed the sale :(
I used the only Grom in my motorcycle training class a few years ago. I’m a returning rider but I was the envy of the class because of the Grom and felt the bike was an extension of my body, not a cagey machine I had to master. Fantastic experience.
It looks like so much fun! Here in the San Francisco Bay area I see the 'grom guys' on the weekends making their way ato Alice's, pulling dank wheelies on Skyline (maybe I just think that). When they roll in to Alices parking lot amongst the big Harleys, Multistradas and GS 1250s it makes me so happy.
I love Zack’s open mindedness and overall joy for all things with two wheels! DR is a highlight of my Saturday mornings and this episode didn’t disappoint.
I think the appeal of the Grom is one of three things usually. One it’s popular and people see their friends doing it so they want to do it too, I think the second thing is that it’s pretty decent for new riders because it’s small it’s easy it’s pretty safe and it’s not too much for most people to handle, and the third is for the more experience people like yourself, it’s just a cool little toy, it’s kind of like a novelty fun little thing.
The Grom is the most fun you can have on 2 wheels. Full clutch, 5 speed, 2 seater, a cinch to turn and super lightweight. It's why it's spawned a world wide culture. I absolutely love mine!
A few year ago I bought a 1970 Honda Trail 70 with 4 speed manual trans. It was so much fun just running around the yard. It got me back into motorcycles after a forced 26 year retirement. I now have a 1973 Norton Commando 850 (you should test a classic British twin) and a BMW R1150RS.
Something to keep in mind, about that 10hp. Adding 2hp to a 100hp bike and a 10hp is VASTLY different. If you want to mod and wrench on your bike, I think you'd have a hard time getting more for your money than a Grom. Damn you, Zack, I want one!! 😂
MC Rider did a couple of videos comparing 30 different bikes value per horsepower and torque. The Grom came in last place for both $/hp and $/tq. I still want to get one someday.
@@fivespeed3026 to be clear, I'm not talking purchase price. I'm talking getting more power. +2hp goes further on a Grom than it does on my Road Glide!
@uberDoward by no means am I an expert on the subject, but I suspect that adding 2 hp is significantly harder on a Grom than on an XSR900 specifically because of proportionality. It feels like a rounding error because it is; upgrading the intake, exhaust, and mapping would probably more than cover it. Unless the Grom has significant untapped potential, I think you'd be looking at some major engine work. On the other hand, +0.2 HP on a Grom is more meaningful than +2 HP on an XSR900 because a Grom is likely to be pushed to the limit over 80% of the time while many XSR900s will never be pushed to the extent of their full potential even in stock configuration. Upgrades commonly associated with power would make themselves apparent primarily through a more compelling exhaust note, better cooling, quicker engine response, and other benefits. The Grom would also see these as ancillary benefits, but it would be able to access the additional power regularly. By contrast, the additional power on the XSR900 is a situational benefit mostly useful for experienced racers. Edit to add: the Grom's top speed is limited by its power to weight, and the XSR900' is not.
Most of my “gravitationally enhanced” friends changed to a heavier weight fork oil and a heavier spring in the rear instead of spending lots and lots of money and that works well. Our “club” has a sharpened rod that has rendered the closed end of many a decibel suppressor over the years. Not as loud as a hole exhaust system but then again, budget tune works
This episode of Daily Rider was great! I love seeing Zack having fun and enjoying himself on the motorcycles he rides and I could tell the Grom was bringing the smiles. Sad to see it placed so low on the leaderboards, but it's understandable. The Grom gets a heart from me as well.
This Daily Rider episode pointed out one shortcoming of the format for me. Since Zack shoots almost exclusively in first person POV we don't get to see how he sits on the bike from a decent angle like a side-view. It would help to get a better idea of the riding position, seat height, and fit if he did that. One TH-camr, Mark Pulling, uses a similar format to Daily Rider but always includes a shot of him sitting on the bike from the side - which I really appreciate since he happens to be the same height as me.
Great review. I sold my Triumph America because I finally figured out I don't like cruising much, on't have to commute any more, and don't have a garage to keep a big bike. I bought 2023 grom, park it in the driveway, and ride it every day. Perfect for city or suburb, where I can open in up and lay into tight curves. Whenever anyone needs something from the store, I always volunteer! Interesting to note as well that in many states (including Virginia, where I live) you can ride the Grom on the interstate, and while I wouldn't use it for a road trip, its fine for a couple exits. You can ride a safe distance behind cars on the interstate (say ten bike lengths), and you still get a drafting effect that allows me to get up to 69 mph, while on a flat road with no cars it goes about 63 tops.
There are a ton of the Grom's/MX125's here in Thailand. Most are ridden by younger men. I'd estimate that they make up around 20-25% of the small displacement motorbike population. Many are modded with extended swingarms, assorted bling, etc. And of course obnoxiously loud, aftermarket exhausts.
Rode one in a parking lot and made me giggle as much if not more than the pure speed of larger bikes. Also, I can see myself, if I had one, bringing it along on a motorcycle carrier on a sedan or suv. Or having two on an rv to go camping. It's still the king of stealth drag racing and hooligan'ing. And hard to get a felony on!
I've never ridden one, but it seems like it might take me back to my early adolescence and riding 100/125cc bikes. It's reasonably priced, and, as you say, has some real aftermarket support. Seems like a fun little 3rd bike for the garage.
I talked to a guy leaving home depot on one of these carrying a backpack full of heavy supplies home, and it was his first bike. He originally wanted a Honda Trail 125 but couldn’t get one in-state at the time, but he had an order for one for this summer. Best of luck dude!
I'm in my 60's and I've been riding for over 40 years, mostly Super Sport bikes and everytime I see a Grom at the dealership, I'm tempted... The only reason I'm still resisting in buying one is that I have a R3 as second bike. I don't know how long I will be able to resist but I must admit that when I watch "Daily Rider" with Zack, it doesn't help...😁 Thanks Zack for another episode of Daily Rider.
I obtained my motorcycle license in 1976 and over the years I've owned in order a Can-Am 125 enduro, a Can-Am 370 MX bike, a Husqvarna CR430, a Suzuki DR 400, a Kawasaki 350 triple two stroke, the original iteration of the GSXR 750, a Yamaha Vino 125 scooter, a Vespa GTS 250 and I now drive a Grom. For my current requirements the Grom is just about perfect. I live in Edmonton Alberta on the Canadian Prairies where the speed limits in the city max out at 80 kph. The municipal governement is very aggressive with photo radar so almost no one speeds. I rarely feel as though I need more power to keep up anywhere in the city. The top box I added is rather small so repeat trips to the grocery store can be required. I'm OK with that. When I park beside the bicycles on the sidewalk, no one gives me the stink eye. I'm guessing the reaction would be very different for a Harley or a Ducati rocket ship. I recently installed a T-Rex Racing center stand and to do so I used the elevator in my building so I could do the work on my living room floor. I just didn't want to lay on my back on the concrete in my parkade and the Grom's diminutive stature made it easy to avoid. The Grom provides buckets of fun and it would be very difficult to find a motocycle that has a lower total cost of operation.
I have a 2023 Grom ABS. Love it. Got lucky and someone else canceled on the dealership so they called me and I snatched it up. Plan to mod almost everything. Super fun bike. Surprised me really.
I did my Motorcycle course with a Honda Grom, My very first time ever learning how to ride a Motorcycle. Very fun little bike and easy to ride. For a 125cc bike, it has a lot of pep. Awesome bike.
When I was a beginner, I made a mistake buying a super sport as my first bike. It was difficult for me to ride and I did not enjoy it. I should've bought something like this Grom. Let me tell you I was having a blast when I tried my friend's Grom. It was just so much fun. I get it.
I have a Grom, a WR450, and an R1 and the Grom is the most consistently fun bike. The other bikes peak fun is higher but you generally have to be doing something somewhat dangerous to really enjoy them where the Grom is fun no matter what you’re doing. I bought a CBR300 to do the swap and then I think the Grom will be the best bike money can buy ☺️🤙🏻
I believe there is an overestimation of the number of riders that let their ego determine what they ride. And I can comfortably admit I have no such issue, and my '75 Honda 360T backs that up. The number of times I've heard "That's a great beginner bike. For women." is too many to count.
The leaderboard needs a new classification for "Daily Commuter". Nobody wants to haul a lumbering 1000 cc monster through rush hour commuting traffic. The Grom, or a 250 CBR on the other hand... top of the list.
My son had a Grom for a couple years and put 12,000 miles on it in that short time. It was a fun little bike to ride. But he got tired of it's limitations (mainly top speed) and bought an MT-07.
I've got a few motorcycles and I will say your points are accurate BUT I absolutely love riding the grom for everything it is and what it's not. More fun than it should be and easily worth having one in the garage....or 2. 🙂
I have been riding a KTM Duke 890 R and a Yamaha R6 for the last few years. I rode a buddy of mine's Grom back in the summer and it was one of the most fun experiences I've had riding it a while. Smiles per gallon are pretty high.
I love my grom. I actually traded in my speed triple 1050 in on it lol and I’m preparing for my 750 mile trip to the small bore rally this coming June. Also adding a monkey to the collection 🤘
I took my MSF on a first gen grom and it was a BLAST. Ever since then I've been thinking about getting one. I've been riding for 8 years and now own a CBR1000RR, but I'm still gonna get a grom this spring for putting around on locally, cause they're just too fun not to!
Though I am riding a bigger bike, I think the Grom is the ultimate fun commuter, hands down. Unless you need to commute on highway or are 120kg. I don't have multiple bikes but if I did, I'd take the Grom to work any day over my Kawasaki or even Ducati, BMW, etc. Lot more fun on the track too for beginners. Here in Japan we have all kinds of Grom, Monkey, etc. cups too so you can even compete in a championship.
I'm a BRAND NEW motorcyclist as of 2 days ago.. the teacher let me sit on the different bikes (after I passed 🎉) and we talked about which ones I should look at for my height and skill level. He suggested this one as a starter! It looks great considering the world of Motorcycles is totally new to me and I don't want highway driving for a long way off. 😅
I have a first gen grom. Has a pipe, big cam, and milled/ ported head. Will bounce rev limiter at 79mph on gps. I have 11,000 miles on it and will hold it wide open on the highway from Jacksonville to Daytona. You can’t kill these engines.
Man that sneak peek tugs at my heart strings. My first real bike (non go-kart engine mini bike) was a 72 xl250 when I was 14. Now I ride a modern wr250 and an old BMW gs, so I think it's set a trend for what I'm into in grown up life even if it didn't make me a honda boi.
I find it fun that the Grom is encouraging small displacement riding. In the UK we all learn to ride on 125s but most move up in displacement as soon as possible (including me). There's something romantic about the idea of returning to a much smaller bike with a few years (or many) of riding under your belt.
RevZilla team!! These vids are sensational keep up the good work. However, I’ve been carrying on for so long that we need a comment on headlight performance! It’s an important feature as 40% of commuters around the world travel at least one trip in the dark. I’m sure a great portion of us watching would appreciate it and a quick spiel on headlights would be a great addition to this awesome series.
Oh wow. The 1975 Honda XL 350 is one of my all-time favorite bikes. It’s got wheelie power it’s enough to get on the freeway it’s easy to ride but still pretty capable. I wouldn’t take it motor crossing or try to jump it a lot but for just a good all-around dual sport it’s awesome and one of the easiest bikes to ride, it’s kind of like the peel of the TW 200 it’s just so easy but it’s got more power and capability. Definitely one of my all-time favorite bikes
man, i sold my Grom and got a Yamaha R3. biggest regret of my life....i miss it 😔 but i got my R3 for $5k....in my area you can't even find OG groms for less than 4-5k........i've even seen these new Groms going for $6k
Dang I got my 2022 grom for 3200 bucks in Denver. Had an r3 I paid 4300 for. Drz400sm 2018 I paid 4500 for. Cb300f I got for 3000. And I had a 18" ninja 400 I got for a steal at 4k and resold it for 5k a week later after going 120mph on it
Dear Honda, please, please,please give us a Grom R that wasn’t meant for beginners. This is the most fun motorcycle and any Grom owner will agree. But it falls on its face in the power aspect. I’m not asking for much. 20 hp to the wheel with the world renowned Honda reliability and a stiffer clutch would do. Deepest regards, Honda lover.
You have not thought carefully about what you are asking for, in many countries in the world there are restrictions on motorcycle driving licenses, Honda does not only sell in Japan and USA, they have to take into account the power restrictions placed by the governments of the different countries where the motorcycles are sold, you didn't think that, plus a grom with how little it weighs, if they put more power on it it would be the fastest 125 motorcycle, much faster than the honda cb125r, that doesn't interest honda either, you didn't think about it either
Regarding your "which celebrity would it be?" question, there is only one. Get it in black, put a loud pipe on it and you sir, got yourself a Kevin Hart.
I've had an og msx from new and even though I've ridden a lot of bikes over the years - and still own some nice ones - there is something very special about these little bikes. You can just drop on it and go without any messing about or planning or any of the usual stuff and even when you're really on it you can throw it into a wet corner and even if the front slides its easy as pie to get it back. Because of that it makes it completely worry free. You're never thinking about grip levels or surfaces because it doesn't matter a d4mn - you just deal with it and bully the bike back up if it slides. Wheelies, stoppies - all easy. On top of all that mine has never been below 100mpg even wringing its neck and has been as high as 150mpg (UK) when just using it to pop to the shops and general low speed stuff. Everything is ultra cheap - tyres, chain, spares etc and even mods aren't silly unless you go for the full branded stuff you really don't need on a bike that realistically does 50-60mph flat out. Sometimes my busa is fun but sometimes I just want a bike that lets me enjoy a ride without a care in the world and the MSX/Grom is that bike.
How about a reprise of the Monkey Baja adventure with Zack and Ari tackling the Simpson Desert on Groms? As for visibility around traffic, you could install modular Clearwaters: front facing for visibility, and rearward facing for that extra nudge of photon power.
I've never had a chance to ride a Grom or Monkey which I like a little better. After commuting on a FZ6 for 10 years I decided I wanted something more relaxed and different to ride. I wasn't sure what exactly I was looking for and wasn't ready to spend big bike money. This was during the shutdowns and it hard to find things. I stumbled upon a Kymco Spade 150 and purchased it. These little mini motos are such a blast and bring back the simple fun of riding and working on a motorcycle that is often lost over years of riding bigger bikes! I commuted daily, explored areas I never had and probably wouldn't have on bigger faster bikes. Even took a week off and road 1200 miles round trip to visit a friend. That has to be one of the best and most memorable tours I've ever done. It made me understand what I really wanted and enjoyed in motorcycles and helped me decide on the next type of bike I wanted. In June I bought a DR650. I still have the Spade and FZ6 and enjoy them all.
@Patrick O'Brien yeah, my co worker asked me to drive her to her car cause it was a far walk and asked which bike was mine and I pointed at it and she laughed and walked away.
I started out 52 years ago on a Honda mini 50. One tough bike. I think the Grom is a really cool bike. I now ride a cam-am Spyder, since that I have reached the age of geezerdom. The Spyder is the first non Honda cycle that I have owned. Honda makes great bikes.
My very first bike was a 2014 Grom back in 2014. Loved it and like many people did the mistake of selling it to buy a larger bike. Got a 2017 Yamaha FZ09, after a month I already had regrets. Sold the FZ09 for a 2019 Honda CB300R, aka the Big Grom. Loved the CB300R, light, nimble. Had a crash last October, hit a deer at 90kmh. Now I'm looking to buy an Honda Navi to scoot to work until my body get stronger. Can't clutch because of an injury to my left hand so the little Navi will be perfect for me 🤪
I put on about 1K miles on a Grom last summer and it was very fun way to commute. I would not suggest it as your only motorcycle as it is annoying when you need to travel long distances and do not want to take 2 hours to go 20 miles, but I think that I ride a motorcycle for the fun of it as much as anything so taking longer is not a bad thing.
Hahaha ! Thanks for sharing the "secret" !'m really looking forward to that ! I was going to suggest that you guys do something epoch on the obviously lovable (how could you not ?) Grom , re-visit Baja maybe with basic upgrades ?! P.S. I can't express in words how much I loved the Sidecar video on many different levels , including meeting your Dad .
I had a 50cc honda monkey when I was a teenager and last summer I bought the 2022 125cc honda monkey. I rode it pretty much every day, rain or shine. The most I've ridden any motorcycle I've owned in a season. It's just such a fun ride, agile, comfortable and engaging, gotta shift through them gears. The only nit-pick I have is that really can't handle 60mph roads, even a slight uphill or headwind and speed drops to 55. It's happy sitting at 50mph. Maybe a sprocket change would help.
G.R.O.M: Giggle Ratio Over Machoness. I took my MSF course on one and dang they are fun. My Duke 390 honestly feels like what a “normal sized” Grom would be
Let me turn in a micro review. I've had precisely the same grom for a year or so and I must say I don't regret getting it after my PCX Honda scooter. It is less comfortable, less practical than PCX, but it is a motorcycle, with pegs, tank between your legs, you shift gears, I love riding motorcycles, and this is a motorcycle. It is so incredibly comfy when it comes to ergonometry. No issues there. It is not too unstable at higher speeds, you just have to keep things balanced, calm inputs, no madness. Then it doesn't matter that the wheels are only 12 inches. But thanks to the size of the wheels, of course, it is super responsive, playful, fun... Compared to my bigger honda, it is a toy when it comes to everyday riding, but it is not a dangerous toy, not a mad toy, not irresponsible to ride on public roads. Just ride the grom responsibly, don't do anything crazy and you are riding a serious motorcycle, so the way you ride really matters even with this tiny bike. Oh and the power, just a 125 cc bike, that's all. You can keep up in traffic in towns easily. Out of town, you have to be careful and anticipate and let aggressive people pass you safely.
I’ve always been drawn to the mini motos. Not sure why- there’s just an appeal there for me. I would never own one as my primary bike but I think it’d be fun to have one to mess around on. Thanks for the video!
I have had many bikes over the years, from sport bikes, adventure touring and now my current bike is a Road Glide Limited, but I bought a Grom in 2021 (This year model with the 5 speed) for my wife to learn how to ride and I'll tell you, I smile more on that little bike then I think I have on any other bike I have ever owned.
I've gotten way more questions about my Grom than any "real" bike I've had or ridden. I've had one person ask me about my MT-09. Almost every time I've had the Grom out, people engage. They are always so curious and excited to tell you how cool they think it is. I would recommend getting the Grom with ABS and if you wanna do stoppies or whatever, take 5 seconds and just pull the relay for the ABS.
I'm currently in the UK and I just done my cbt license, idk what it is in USA but I got put on a grom and from my previous experiences on all sorts of bikes I fell in love so quickly with it and I'm hopefully getting one soon
I would sincerely appreciate you teaching me (or anyone willing through the comments, why not?) how to slide the back without locking the rear. I have heard Zack mention time and time again of sliding with the clutch and/or front break, which is something that, for some reason I can't wrap my head around.
If you notice it is in 1st gear and he dumps the clutch which causes the rear tire to break loose in a semi controlled fashion. ABS and slipper clutch works against you when attempting the "back it in" trick.
To "back it in" you will be operating just beyond the limit of rear wheel traction in hard cornering under heavy front brake. Probably something to practice at a track on a motorcycle you're not afraid to damage a few times.
I was riding a few weeks back. I have a 22 monkey abs and my cousin a22 grom abs. At a light a man yelled at us to get real bikes. He was driving an early 2000s dodge caravan. 99 percent of the time I get complimented constantly. You can't please everyone but they are awesome bikes and so much fun. I get about 90 to the gallon. So worth it.
I very rarley ride over 200 miles in a day and I find the grom ideal for this .Pleasent to ride and very good on gass . The only critisium I have of this bike is from new Honda put the worst wet weather tyers on it that have ever been produced .The first time on wet roads I thought the frame had snapped in half .
I built a 1972 Honda CL70 that's stretched with a 12hp dirtbike engine. It has a luggage rack on the back and it still weighs about 100lbs less than a Grom. I look at the Groms with envy of their huge aftermarket support but I'm stuck in my carbureted ways.
ayy! please do a review of the transalp when it comes out for reviewers, i think it'll be an excellent daily rider! Edit: i am already hyped for the next CTXP episode, sounds awesome!
I own a Grom and a Super Duke. The Super Duke with 32 inch seat feels like an SUV as I can see over real SUV’s. My friends huge Harley with less than 30 inch seat is easily hidden behind SUV’s. So the Groms seat is a good compromise for being seen around cars.
Been riding all my life and done about 8 years of track racing. Been on Harleys most of the time for the last decade and jumping from a cvo road glide to a grom is perfect. It demands nothing from me. I pop the clutch, goes sideways. I even raced it through the house once. The kids have been riding it around the yard. It's an awesome bike and if you got a bunch of them they're a blast to do hooligan riding in town on.
I've had my 22' Grom SP for almost a year now, about 1500 miles on it, use it for twisty roads and going to work. Super cheap to maintain and parts are cheap. Shout out to anyone in or near Ventura County, Calif that wants to ride.
Read Common Tread's review of the Honda Grom! rvz.la/3F0mFXO
And if your bike needs new rubber, check out Michelin! rvz.la/3EDuMbo
So many new honda groms....but nothing for the Honda CBR300R
I’m sorry but this is a small, fun and show off bike which makes it a “Kevin Hart” 😂
@@bign1667 buy a kawi ninja 300 mate 😂
Yeeeah new adventures of my favorite duo on TH-cam 🎉
You don't have big enough balls to challenge the Honda super cub.
It's crazy that so many people IN the community see it as a joke, but literally every single non-rider looks at is as something they would totally ride and bring them into motorcycling. The impact of bikes like this on culture is arguably bigger than any "legitimate" fast bike.
the only people that look down on it are elitists. any real biker can see that the grom fits its role just as perfectly as the BMW 1000RR, or the Africa twin. Its not designed for going fast
Bikers that shit on other bikers for what they ride or their "skills" aren't real bikers.
@@redactedrider7606 i think it looks much nicer. and you know the answer to cracking things doing stoppies? dont do stoppies. theyre childish and you look dumb when you drop your bike
I seen this and now I’m studying for my motorcycle license rn
Before I got my first bike earlier this year, this bike would never been in my possession. I got a 2021 Indian scout bobber 60 and I’ll only go faster from there.
It’s the motorcycle all of us dreamed our bicycles were when we were kids but it’s real. Brings back memories of simpler times.
Agreed!!
A 60 year old kid that loves this version of the Grom. I had the original and then the Monkey. I can say that it’s giggle ratio is the highest of any motorcycle I’ve owned. Yes I still practice balance point wheelies on it.
Love it!
Love the Monkey!
I learned on a Grom, and remember how much fun it was to ride.
Whatever bro🙄
I know exactly what you mean. I got a Grom and an R6. Both cost me about 4 grand. I often struggle to decide which bike is the more fun one overall.
I've got a full motorcycle licence, live in London and bought the grom to start on. 3 years later it's still my only bike and has taken me to work, to the seaside and given me countless hours of fun on the road. I'd still like a bike to go faster and do longer trips on but as Zack says it's just so easy to love I don't think I'd part with it. Looks like having 2 bikes would be the perfect situation!
More bikes always equals better :D
The Honda CB300R is the next step. It's about 1.5x power, weight, and size
A CB500X is a good second bike. Lots of power for longer distances, but still light and comfortable with proper luggage options.
@@iz723 I agree. I almost bought one actually. I think I'm leaning towards an MT-07, sv650 or maybe a Crf300 rally for travel and trails
@@Mandem909 I was in the same position, trying to chose an all rounder. Those bikes are all excellent options (crf is not great for a pillion but is very capable). Sadly I only have an A2 licence so the CB500X was a perfect fit.
Zack, I really appreciate how encouraging you are to us new riders. It’s easy for a new rider to get discouraged when someone is condescending and unwilling to be helpful. Thank you for your kindness and willingness to help. You and Ari have been one of the reasons I’ve absolutely fallen in love with motorcycles at 52 years old.
Welcome to the family! Soon, you will be completely hooked. 👍😊💯
Pay no mind to elitists! "GET A REAL BIIIIIIKE" That's just their fragile ego talking
All that matters is that your knees are in the breeze!
Ride whateverrrrrrrr you want! Vespa, trike, any import or domestic bike - it's whatever you like!
The bicycling community can be similar
@@noonehere4332 very true. I actually just recently got interested in bicycling and everyone I’ve asked questions with has been very helpful.
Do what you like and like what you do!
I love how offened people are by groms...the thing about them is its not about numbers, it's about throwing your leg over something ridiculous and enjoying the fact. There's no sex appeal, or masculinity booster from it. But it's just a pure and simple bike. In the age of bigger and more complex motorcycles, it's a nice to see something simple. Plus they are bullet proof, I'm at 13k miles on mine, and still nothing major has broke just the normal wear use parts.
I've known Groms to share garage space with Ducatis and become the favorite. Great off road too (with a small/lightweight rider) with only a pair of knobbies since the bike is so light you can just heave it wherever it needs to go.
Not a motorcyclist, yet! but what’s off putting to me about the Grom is the same thing as the selling point - the size. Drivers near me can tend to be extremely selfish and unconcerned with others and their safety. I don’t *know* this, but I *feel* that on a larger bike, it’s easier to be seen. Also, I kinda live where, and my personal transit needs require that I need to use the highway all the time.
But they’re so cheap and I’d love to try one out!! I’m torn!!
@@JoshuaKoerner With the high seating position they're pretty noticeable in traffic. But with your highway needs I would recommend getting a used "full size" bike for $3k or less as your first bike. Even if it's not exactly the bike you want, it will help you learn about features and ergonomics that wouldn't have previously seemed important when it comes time to get the bike that you really want.
13k isn't shit.
@@theyeetus1428 yes it is. that's 3 services without issues
I have a ducati monster, and a few classic bikes, and my 19' monkey and 22' grom are by far the funnest bikes I have. There is nothing better then running mundane errands around town with the mini motos. Being able to go WOT through 4-5 gears and still do the speed limit while getting 100+ MPG when gas is $4+ a gallon is fantastic. And the best part is, there is so much aftermarket support with them, that if you do get bored, slap on a new ECU tune, or slap on a different exhaust, or slap on some different wheels and tires, it's truly endless. It's just like the saying for a car says "its more fun to drive a slow car fast then drive a fast car slow".
Can you say you prefer or go for one more often than the other? (Between the grom and monkey).
@@FerventReminder That's a tough one to answer.. Even though they're both based on the same platform they feel night and day different. It honestly depends on the mood you're in. The Monkey has a more vintage cruiser vibe feel to it. Meanwhile the Grom feels more refined, and it handles a little better, it really likes being pushed in corners. So if you're in a "I'm going to take the long twisty way" kinda mood, the Grom. If you're in a "Lets blast some Led Zeppelin" kinda mood, the Monkey takes the cake that day. Realistically, either one puts a giant smile on my face.
@@patrickpl94 Thanks for the feedback, I think considering the price diverges a fair bit here in Australia the grom is the winner for me.
Get a grom, my friend, you won't regret it!
Hello, it's a problem how tall it's the raider for the grom?
I have been riding over 20 years and just bought a 23 Grom SP with ABS just as a commuter and what a blast. The ABS is just on the front wheel, you can still skid the back tire to play around. Such a fun bike.
That is so good to know, I was about to get the non abs beacuse I wanna make sure I can skid the back tire lol
Personally, I think the Grom might be the perfect first motorcycle. Small, agile, light, simple, cheap and above all, fun.
Bought a grom after being totally discouraged failing to ride the RE Himalayan as a new rider and being short (5'3) and afer countless drops I felt like I would never be able to do it. Well I absolutely LOVE my grom, I've been riding heaps and feel very comfortable on it. Yeah I can't go fast but that's not the goal! I'm learning and becoming more comfortable on the road. And I get loads of looks and laughs which just makes my day. Tiny bikes are awesome and I think when I'm ready for a bigger bike I don't think I'll part with the grom
Probably a bad idea to start with Himalayan if you're 5'3. Adventure bikes are all tall. You could try the RE Scram 411, which is the Himalayan motor anyway. Or, a Kawasaki KLX230SM.
A 2015 Grom was my first motorbike. I managed to find one a cheap with only about 100 Km on it as a guy had bought it for his girlfriend to try to get her into riding & she wasn't into it. It's great for commuting in Auckland, as you can lane split, park downtown for free & gas cost about $7 every three weeks.
Gratuitous Revelry Omit Motorways
I hadn’t ridden in years and my buddy offered me to ride his bike xtra bike, a Grom. I’m like “I have no idea what a Grom is but I’ll be over in 5 minutes!” 20 minutes into the ride I was dragging peg, so much for feeling rusty, the Grom is one of the most FUN motorcycles ever made!!!
I've got a 2014 grom. The hilarious pleasure of riding everywhere flat out has to be experienced to be understood. The handling is insane, especially when you upgrade the suspension.
I have a love/hate relationship with this thing.
Sitting at home, safely away from any of them, I think "that's stupid why would I need that?"
Then I see one in person and start getting my wallet out.
What saves me from actually buying one is that the speed limit on my road is 45 and surrounded by 50s and 55s.
It would be hard to get it out of my driveway lol. I bet it's a riot though.
@@acethedisturbed That's the problem I have here in Canada, too. To get anywhere you have to take roads that are 80 or 100 km/h (freeways) so not being able to do that really takes away a ton of its usability appeal. Of course I still want one (or a Monkey, or the CT Cub if it ever makes it to Canada). Also they're pretty expensive for what they are.
I own several bikes. 2016 Goldwing, 2022 Grom, 2022 Navi (lady friend learning to ride), and a 1970 CT-90. The Wing is my daily rider to work (24 miles) and cross country trips but on weekends The GROM is my get out and ride around for fun. I have over 1k on the GROM in just over a year. Different bikes for different reasons. Gotta get Milk? GROM it. Overnight camping CT-90 for dirt. At 66 years of age, just being able to ride is what I enjoy most. Find your Happy bike, and ride it like you stole it.
Wow. I was considering exchanging my 2018 CRF1000 for a Grom (city) and a GL1800 (highway). I saw a 2019 Goldwing with damage but underbid and missed the sale :(
I used the only Grom in my motorcycle training class a few years ago. I’m a returning rider but I was the envy of the class because of the Grom and felt the bike was an extension of my body, not a cagey machine I had to master. Fantastic experience.
It looks like so much fun! Here in the San Francisco Bay area I see the 'grom guys' on the weekends making their way ato Alice's, pulling dank wheelies on Skyline (maybe I just think that).
When they roll in to Alices parking lot amongst the big Harleys, Multistradas and GS 1250s it makes me so happy.
I love Zack’s open mindedness and overall joy for all things with two wheels! DR is a highlight of my Saturday mornings and this episode didn’t disappoint.
I think the appeal of the Grom is one of three things usually. One it’s popular and people see their friends doing it so they want to do it too, I think the second thing is that it’s pretty decent for new riders because it’s small it’s easy it’s pretty safe and it’s not too much for most people to handle, and the third is for the more experience people like yourself, it’s just a cool little toy, it’s kind of like a novelty fun little thing.
It comes across a bit like a scooter for people who hate scooters.
The Grom is the most fun you can have on 2 wheels. Full clutch, 5 speed, 2 seater, a cinch to turn and super lightweight. It's why it's spawned a world wide culture. I absolutely love mine!
My KP min cost like 2k less more horsepower and you can modify the crf150f clone engine with honda parts and get the displacement up to 223cc
A few year ago I bought a 1970 Honda Trail 70 with 4 speed manual trans. It was so much fun just running around the yard. It got me back into motorcycles after a forced 26 year retirement. I now have a 1973 Norton Commando 850 (you should test a classic British twin) and a BMW R1150RS.
Great Ride Of Mine!
G.R.O.M.
I live in Vegas freeway speed limit is 65.. I’m 1000000000000000000% taking that on the freeway
Something to keep in mind, about that 10hp. Adding 2hp to a 100hp bike and a 10hp is VASTLY different. If you want to mod and wrench on your bike, I think you'd have a hard time getting more for your money than a Grom. Damn you, Zack, I want one!! 😂
MC Rider did a couple of videos comparing 30 different bikes value per horsepower and torque. The Grom came in last place for both $/hp and $/tq. I still want to get one someday.
@@fivespeed3026 to be clear, I'm not talking purchase price. I'm talking getting more power. +2hp goes further on a Grom than it does on my Road Glide!
@@fivespeed3026 Thats fair. though if you buying a bike for power, a grom is the wrong choice lol
@uberDoward by no means am I an expert on the subject, but I suspect that adding 2 hp is significantly harder on a Grom than on an XSR900 specifically because of proportionality. It feels like a rounding error because it is; upgrading the intake, exhaust, and mapping would probably more than cover it. Unless the Grom has significant untapped potential, I think you'd be looking at some major engine work.
On the other hand, +0.2 HP on a Grom is more meaningful than +2 HP on an XSR900 because a Grom is likely to be pushed to the limit over 80% of the time while many XSR900s will never be pushed to the extent of their full potential even in stock configuration.
Upgrades commonly associated with power would make themselves apparent primarily through a more compelling exhaust note, better cooling, quicker engine response, and other benefits.
The Grom would also see these as ancillary benefits, but it would be able to access the additional power regularly. By contrast, the additional power on the XSR900 is a situational benefit mostly useful for experienced racers.
Edit to add: the Grom's top speed is limited by its power to weight, and the XSR900' is not.
Most of my “gravitationally enhanced” friends changed to a heavier weight fork oil and a heavier spring in the rear instead of spending lots and lots of money and that works well. Our “club” has a sharpened rod that has rendered the closed end of many a decibel suppressor over the years. Not as loud as a hole exhaust system but then again, budget tune works
Good mod here
This episode of Daily Rider was great! I love seeing Zack having fun and enjoying himself on the motorcycles he rides and I could tell the Grom was bringing the smiles. Sad to see it placed so low on the leaderboards, but it's understandable. The Grom gets a heart from me as well.
The Grom was my first bike! Great learning experience, and yes, pure fun.
This Daily Rider episode pointed out one shortcoming of the format for me. Since Zack shoots almost exclusively in first person POV we don't get to see how he sits on the bike from a decent angle like a side-view. It would help to get a better idea of the riding position, seat height, and fit if he did that. One TH-camr, Mark Pulling, uses a similar format to Daily Rider but always includes a shot of him sitting on the bike from the side - which I really appreciate since he happens to be the same height as me.
Great review. I sold my Triumph America because I finally figured out I don't like cruising much, on't have to commute any more, and don't have a garage to keep a big bike. I bought 2023 grom, park it in the driveway, and ride it every day. Perfect for city or suburb, where I can open in up and lay into tight curves. Whenever anyone needs something from the store, I always volunteer! Interesting to note as well that in many states (including Virginia, where I live) you can ride the Grom on the interstate, and while I wouldn't use it for a road trip, its fine for a couple exits. You can ride a safe distance behind cars on the interstate (say ten bike lengths), and you still get a drafting effect that allows me to get up to 69 mph, while on a flat road with no cars it goes about 63 tops.
There are a ton of the Grom's/MX125's here in Thailand. Most are ridden by younger men. I'd estimate that they make up around 20-25% of the small displacement motorbike population. Many are modded with extended swingarms, assorted bling, etc. And of course obnoxiously loud, aftermarket exhausts.
Rode one in a parking lot and made me giggle as much if not more than the pure speed of larger bikes. Also, I can see myself, if I had one, bringing it along on a motorcycle carrier on a sedan or suv. Or having two on an rv to go camping. It's still the king of stealth drag racing and hooligan'ing. And hard to get a felony on!
Shit they will do 100 mph if you bypass the rev limiter
@@catsbyondrepair no they will not do 100 mph
I bought a brand new Grom in the spring on ‘22. I’ve never been so happy with a motorcycle purchase.
That’s awesome. Do you mind sharing your OTD price? And with/without ABS?
I might get one of these because gas is just too high.
I've never ridden one, but it seems like it might take me back to my early adolescence and riding 100/125cc bikes. It's reasonably priced, and, as you say, has some real aftermarket support. Seems like a fun little 3rd bike for the garage.
I talked to a guy leaving home depot on one of these carrying a backpack full of heavy supplies home, and it was his first bike. He originally wanted a Honda Trail 125 but couldn’t get one in-state at the time, but he had an order for one for this summer. Best of luck dude!
Best Grom summary "it's like Honda figured out how to bottle fun"
That all you need!! Thats motorcycling.
The giggles throughout the narration further prove the point. 👍
Back street riding is fun. I rode my YSR50 with a pipe in 1990 from Pasadena to Santa Monica. No map no cell phones.
I'm in my 60's and I've been riding for over 40 years, mostly Super Sport bikes and everytime I see a Grom at the dealership, I'm tempted... The only reason I'm still resisting in buying one is that I have a R3 as second bike. I don't know how long I will be able to resist but I must admit that when I watch "Daily Rider" with Zack, it doesn't help...😁 Thanks Zack for another episode of Daily Rider.
Get one, you won’t regret it!
I obtained my motorcycle license in 1976 and over the years I've owned in order a Can-Am 125 enduro, a Can-Am 370 MX bike, a Husqvarna CR430, a Suzuki DR 400, a Kawasaki 350 triple two stroke, the original iteration of the GSXR 750, a Yamaha Vino 125 scooter, a Vespa GTS 250 and I now drive a Grom. For my current requirements the Grom is just about perfect. I live in Edmonton Alberta on the Canadian Prairies where the speed limits in the city max out at 80 kph. The municipal governement is very aggressive with photo radar so almost no one speeds. I rarely feel as though I need more power to keep up anywhere in the city. The top box I added is rather small so repeat trips to the grocery store can be required. I'm OK with that. When I park beside the bicycles on the sidewalk, no one gives me the stink eye. I'm guessing the reaction would be very different for a Harley or a Ducati rocket ship. I recently installed a T-Rex Racing center stand and to do so I used the elevator in my building so I could do the work on my living room floor. I just didn't want to lay on my back on the concrete in my parkade and the Grom's diminutive stature made it easy to avoid. The Grom provides buckets of fun and it would be very difficult to find a motocycle that has a lower total cost of operation.
I have a 2023 Grom ABS. Love it. Got lucky and someone else canceled on the dealership so they called me and I snatched it up. Plan to mod almost everything. Super fun bike. Surprised me really.
I did my Motorcycle course with a Honda Grom, My very first time ever learning how to ride a Motorcycle. Very fun little bike and easy to ride. For a 125cc bike, it has a lot of pep. Awesome bike.
These are the learner bikes in the NY MSF class, which is why I'm crushing it 🏍️💨
When I was a beginner, I made a mistake buying a super sport as my first bike. It was difficult for me to ride and I did not enjoy it. I should've bought something like this Grom. Let me tell you I was having a blast when I tried my friend's Grom. It was just so much fun. I get it.
I have a Grom, a WR450, and an R1 and the Grom is the most consistently fun bike. The other bikes peak fun is higher but you generally have to be doing something somewhat dangerous to really enjoy them where the Grom is fun no matter what you’re doing.
I bought a CBR300 to do the swap and then I think the Grom will be the best bike money can buy ☺️🤙🏻
I believe there is an overestimation of the number of riders that let their ego determine what they ride. And I can comfortably admit I have no such issue, and my '75 Honda 360T backs that up. The number of times I've heard "That's a great beginner bike. For women." is too many to count.
The leaderboard needs a new classification for "Daily Commuter". Nobody wants to haul a lumbering 1000 cc monster through rush hour commuting traffic. The Grom, or a 250 CBR on the other hand... top of the list.
Just got my grom literally yesterday, I never drove a bike in my life and I absolutely love my grom
My son had a Grom for a couple years and put 12,000 miles on it in that short time. It was a fun little bike to ride. But he got tired of it's limitations (mainly top speed) and bought an MT-07.
I've got a few motorcycles and I will say your points are accurate BUT I absolutely love riding the grom for everything it is and what it's not. More fun than it should be and easily worth having one in the garage....or 2. 🙂
I’ve had mine since launch and absolutely love it. Getting rid of my 700 magna because of the grom
I have been riding a KTM Duke 890 R and a Yamaha R6 for the last few years. I rode a buddy of mine's Grom back in the summer and it was one of the most fun experiences I've had riding it a while. Smiles per gallon are pretty high.
I love my grom. I actually traded in my speed triple 1050 in on it lol and I’m preparing for my 750 mile trip to the small bore rally this coming June. Also adding a monkey to the collection 🤘
I took my MSF on a first gen grom and it was a BLAST. Ever since then I've been thinking about getting one. I've been riding for 8 years and now own a CBR1000RR, but I'm still gonna get a grom this spring for putting around on locally, cause they're just too fun not to!
Though I am riding a bigger bike, I think the Grom is the ultimate fun commuter, hands down. Unless you need to commute on highway or are 120kg. I don't have multiple bikes but if I did, I'd take the Grom to work any day over my Kawasaki or even Ducati, BMW, etc. Lot more fun on the track too for beginners. Here in Japan we have all kinds of Grom, Monkey, etc. cups too so you can even compete in a championship.
I'm a BRAND NEW motorcyclist as of 2 days ago.. the teacher let me sit on the different bikes (after I passed 🎉) and we talked about which ones I should look at for my height and skill level. He suggested this one as a starter!
It looks great considering the world of Motorcycles is totally new to me and I don't want highway driving for a long way off. 😅
The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be, over 60k km on my 2017 grom with nothing done beside regular oil and brake pad
I have 22,000 km on the 2021 model and no problems too😊👍
I have a first gen grom. Has a pipe, big cam, and milled/ ported head. Will bounce rev limiter at 79mph on gps. I have 11,000 miles on it and will hold it wide open on the highway from Jacksonville to Daytona. You can’t kill these engines.
Man that sneak peek tugs at my heart strings. My first real bike (non go-kart engine mini bike) was a 72 xl250 when I was 14. Now I ride a modern wr250 and an old BMW gs, so I think it's set a trend for what I'm into in grown up life even if it didn't make me a honda boi.
Same here. I hope they're kind to that beautiful '75 XL350.
I find it fun that the Grom is encouraging small displacement riding. In the UK we all learn to ride on 125s but most move up in displacement as soon as possible (including me). There's something romantic about the idea of returning to a much smaller bike with a few years (or many) of riding under your belt.
CTXP idea: Grom trip. :)
I love the premise of riding to a far away track day.
I like this idea ! Extra long Grom Trip !
RevZilla team!! These vids are sensational keep up the good work. However, I’ve been carrying on for so long that we need a comment on headlight performance! It’s an important feature as 40% of commuters around the world travel at least one trip in the dark. I’m sure a great portion of us watching would appreciate it and a quick spiel on headlights would be a great addition to this awesome series.
Yes Zack, we enjoyed this episode of Daily Rider, you always do a wonderful job reviewing bikes, always do!!
Oh wow. The 1975 Honda XL 350 is one of my all-time favorite bikes. It’s got wheelie power it’s enough to get on the freeway it’s easy to ride but still pretty capable. I wouldn’t take it motor crossing or try to jump it a lot but for just a good all-around dual sport it’s awesome and one of the easiest bikes to ride, it’s kind of like the peel of the TW 200 it’s just so easy but it’s got more power and capability. Definitely one of my all-time favorite bikes
man, i sold my Grom and got a Yamaha R3. biggest regret of my life....i miss it 😔 but i got my R3 for $5k....in my area you can't even find OG groms for less than 4-5k........i've even seen these new Groms going for $6k
Really? If I'm not mistaken you can get a current model grom from the dealership for the equivalent of 3277 USD here in Australia.
Dang I got my 2022 grom for 3200 bucks in Denver. Had an r3 I paid 4300 for. Drz400sm 2018 I paid 4500 for. Cb300f I got for 3000. And I had a 18" ninja 400 I got for a steal at 4k and resold it for 5k a week later after going 120mph on it
Dear Honda, please, please,please give us a Grom R that wasn’t meant for beginners. This is the most fun motorcycle and any Grom owner will agree. But it falls on its face in the power aspect. I’m not asking for much. 20 hp to the wheel with the world renowned Honda reliability and a stiffer clutch would do. Deepest regards,
Honda lover.
You have not thought carefully about what you are asking for, in many countries in the world there are restrictions on motorcycle driving licenses, Honda does not only sell in Japan and USA, they have to take into account the power restrictions placed by the governments of the different countries where the motorcycles are sold, you didn't think that, plus a grom with how little it weighs, if they put more power on it it would be the fastest 125 motorcycle, much faster than the honda cb125r, that doesn't interest honda either, you didn't think about it either
@@pedrojoseismaelnot reading allat. Bring on the Grom R
Regarding your "which celebrity would it be?" question, there is only one. Get it in black, put a loud pipe on it and you sir, got yourself a Kevin Hart.
I've had an og msx from new and even though I've ridden a lot of bikes over the years - and still own some nice ones - there is something very special about these little bikes. You can just drop on it and go without any messing about or planning or any of the usual stuff and even when you're really on it you can throw it into a wet corner and even if the front slides its easy as pie to get it back.
Because of that it makes it completely worry free. You're never thinking about grip levels or surfaces because it doesn't matter a d4mn - you just deal with it and bully the bike back up if it slides. Wheelies, stoppies - all easy. On top of all that mine has never been below 100mpg even wringing its neck and has been as high as 150mpg (UK) when just using it to pop to the shops and general low speed stuff.
Everything is ultra cheap - tyres, chain, spares etc and even mods aren't silly unless you go for the full branded stuff you really don't need on a bike that realistically does 50-60mph flat out.
Sometimes my busa is fun but sometimes I just want a bike that lets me enjoy a ride without a care in the world and the MSX/Grom is that bike.
How about a reprise of the Monkey Baja adventure with Zack and Ari tackling the Simpson Desert on Groms? As for visibility around traffic, you could install modular Clearwaters: front facing for visibility, and rearward facing for that extra nudge of photon power.
I've never had a chance to ride a Grom or Monkey which I like a little better. After commuting on a FZ6 for 10 years I decided I wanted something more relaxed and different to ride. I wasn't sure what exactly I was looking for and wasn't ready to spend big bike money. This was during the shutdowns and it hard to find things.
I stumbled upon a Kymco Spade 150 and purchased it. These little mini motos are such a blast and bring back the simple fun of riding and working on a motorcycle that is often lost over years of riding bigger bikes! I commuted daily, explored areas I never had and probably wouldn't have on bigger faster bikes. Even took a week off and road 1200 miles round trip to visit a friend. That has to be one of the best and most memorable tours I've ever done.
It made me understand what I really wanted and enjoyed in motorcycles and helped me decide on the next type of bike I wanted. In June I bought a DR650. I still have the Spade and FZ6 and enjoy them all.
Yeah, I picked up the SP 2023 model in June and put 3k miles on it so far. Love it, been taking it everywhere!
@Patrick O'Brien hahahahahaha
@Patrick O'Brien yeah, my co worker asked me to drive her to her car cause it was a far walk and asked which bike was mine and I pointed at it and she laughed and walked away.
I started out 52 years ago on a Honda mini 50. One tough bike. I think the Grom is a really cool bike. I now ride a cam-am Spyder, since that I have reached the age of geezerdom. The Spyder is the first non Honda cycle that I have owned. Honda makes great bikes.
I would like to see an episode on the R1250RS. I could imagine this is a pretty good daily rider while also allowing for some fun.
Whenever I see these on the road it looks ridiculous but it still makes me smile
My very first bike was a 2014 Grom back in 2014. Loved it and like many people did the mistake of selling it to buy a larger bike. Got a 2017 Yamaha FZ09, after a month I already had regrets. Sold the FZ09 for a 2019 Honda CB300R, aka the Big Grom. Loved the CB300R, light, nimble.
Had a crash last October, hit a deer at 90kmh. Now I'm looking to buy an Honda Navi to scoot to work until my body get stronger. Can't clutch because of an injury to my left hand so the little Navi will be perfect for me 🤪
I put on about 1K miles on a Grom last summer and it was very fun way to commute. I would not suggest it as your only motorcycle as it is annoying when you need to travel long distances and do not want to take 2 hours to go 20 miles, but I think that I ride a motorcycle for the fun of it as much as anything so taking longer is not a bad thing.
The Grom would be a great choice when riding with a son or daughter on a PW50. Just sayin….😊
make sure you never lose the "use case" category. That and comfort are so often missing from reviews. Good job.
Hahaha ! Thanks for sharing the "secret" !'m really looking forward to that ! I was going to suggest that you guys do something epoch on the obviously lovable (how could you not ?) Grom , re-visit Baja maybe with basic upgrades ?! P.S. I can't express in words how much I loved the Sidecar video on many different levels , including meeting your Dad .
I had a 50cc honda monkey when I was a teenager and last summer I bought the 2022 125cc honda monkey. I rode it pretty much every day, rain or shine. The most I've ridden any motorcycle I've owned in a season. It's just such a fun ride, agile, comfortable and engaging, gotta shift through them gears. The only nit-pick I have is that really can't handle 60mph roads, even a slight uphill or headwind and speed drops to 55. It's happy sitting at 50mph. Maybe a sprocket change would help.
Go Zack! 5 speeds of fun!
G.R.O.M: Giggle Ratio Over Machoness. I took my MSF course on one and dang they are fun. My Duke 390 honestly feels like what a “normal sized” Grom would be
Let me turn in a micro review. I've had precisely the same grom for a year or so and I must say I don't regret getting it after my PCX Honda scooter. It is less comfortable, less practical than PCX, but it is a motorcycle, with pegs, tank between your legs, you shift gears, I love riding motorcycles, and this is a motorcycle. It is so incredibly comfy when it comes to ergonometry. No issues there. It is not too unstable at higher speeds, you just have to keep things balanced, calm inputs, no madness. Then it doesn't matter that the wheels are only 12 inches. But thanks to the size of the wheels, of course, it is super responsive, playful, fun... Compared to my bigger honda, it is a toy when it comes to everyday riding, but it is not a dangerous toy, not a mad toy, not irresponsible to ride on public roads. Just ride the grom responsibly, don't do anything crazy and you are riding a serious motorcycle, so the way you ride really matters even with this tiny bike. Oh and the power, just a 125 cc bike, that's all. You can keep up in traffic in towns easily. Out of town, you have to be careful and anticipate and let aggressive people pass you safely.
I’ve always been drawn to the mini motos. Not sure why- there’s just an appeal there for me. I would never own one as my primary bike but I think it’d be fun to have one to mess around on. Thanks for the video!
I have had many bikes over the years, from sport bikes, adventure touring and now my current bike is a Road Glide Limited, but I bought a Grom in 2021 (This year model with the 5 speed) for my wife to learn how to ride and I'll tell you, I smile more on that little bike then I think I have on any other bike I have ever owned.
Way can they not do a Grom 250cc ?
They would sell a zillion of them!
I've gotten way more questions about my Grom than any "real" bike I've had or ridden. I've had one person ask me about my MT-09. Almost every time I've had the Grom out, people engage. They are always so curious and excited to tell you how cool they think it is. I would recommend getting the Grom with ABS and if you wanna do stoppies or whatever, take 5 seconds and just pull the relay for the ABS.
Part of it is Bcs mt09 leaves most thing on road to dust🤣
That’s exactly how I found out about the Grom. Dude pulled up to Advance Auto, I was like “bro wtf is that little thing, I need that!”
The only other Honda Mini moto in the US lineup that has passenger pegs standard is the Honda Navi.
I'm currently in the UK and I just done my cbt license, idk what it is in USA but I got put on a grom and from my previous experiences on all sorts of bikes I fell in love so quickly with it and I'm hopefully getting one soon
I would sincerely appreciate you teaching me (or anyone willing through the comments, why not?) how to slide the back without locking the rear. I have heard Zack mention time and time again of sliding with the clutch and/or front break, which is something that, for some reason I can't wrap my head around.
If you notice it is in 1st gear and he dumps the clutch which causes the rear tire to break loose in a semi controlled fashion. ABS and slipper clutch works against you when attempting the "back it in" trick.
To "back it in" you will be operating just beyond the limit of rear wheel traction in hard cornering under heavy front brake. Probably something to practice at a track on a motorcycle you're not afraid to damage a few times.
@@bradboustead1682 Right, so the front brake eases traction on the rear, and bombing downshift allows for the rear to slip?
I was riding a few weeks back. I have a 22 monkey abs and my cousin a22 grom abs. At a light a man yelled at us to get real bikes. He was driving an early 2000s dodge caravan. 99 percent of the time I get complimented constantly. You can't please everyone but they are awesome bikes and so much fun. I get about 90 to the gallon. So worth it.
I very rarley ride over 200 miles in a day and I find the grom ideal for this .Pleasent to ride and very good on gass . The only critisium I have of this bike is from new Honda put the worst wet weather tyers on it that have ever been produced .The first time on wet roads I thought the frame had snapped in half .
I built a 1972 Honda CL70 that's stretched with a 12hp dirtbike engine. It has a luggage rack on the back and it still weighs about 100lbs less than a Grom. I look at the Groms with envy of their huge aftermarket support but I'm stuck in my carbureted ways.
ayy! please do a review of the transalp when it comes out for reviewers, i think it'll be an excellent daily rider! Edit: i am already hyped for the next CTXP episode, sounds awesome!
This is a nice bike everyone would love this bike imagine it was a 2 cylinder
Ayyy finally he is reviewing the grom!
I own a Grom and a Super Duke. The Super Duke with 32 inch seat feels like an SUV as I can see over real SUV’s. My friends huge Harley with less than 30 inch seat is easily hidden behind SUV’s. So the Groms seat is a good compromise for being seen around cars.
The most fun you can have under the speed limit
Been riding all my life and done about 8 years of track racing. Been on Harleys most of the time for the last decade and jumping from a cvo road glide to a grom is perfect. It demands nothing from me. I pop the clutch, goes sideways. I even raced it through the house once. The kids have been riding it around the yard. It's an awesome bike and if you got a bunch of them they're a blast to do hooligan riding in town on.
The Grom is the Kevin Hart of motorcycles.
I've had my 22' Grom SP for almost a year now, about 1500 miles on it, use it for twisty roads and going to work. Super cheap to maintain and parts are cheap. Shout out to anyone in or near Ventura County, Calif that wants to ride.
The Grom reminds me of a young Joe Pesci. “Im funny, how?” 😂
Aziz Ansari, good answer 😅
I like to think he'd appreciate the comparison, given how much of a blast you had with the Grom.